As always thank you for your work in these trying times Net0. I hope your whale hunting has been going well? I'm going to try to see if I can finish my book nearish to the end of the week in time for my initiation. Should be nice to be in Europe again, though Normandy isn't fully my favorite. Hopefully, I can get some insight to impress upon the lads with my book.
Though, I'm surprised there's no thread question but then again I assume there's probably not much need given we're going a bit slow. Thanks regardless.

Thank you, once more, for maintaining this communication line, Net0. I do hope your expedition proved fruitful.
I have been cleaning up the cabin after dealing with my beast, and the locked room that confounded me has been breached revealing a corpse in a script circle. The corpse is exhibiting signs of early decay but the script is proving to be a most interesting puzzle. I believe it might be an older form of cyrillic.
[spoilers]Thanks again and I'll do my best to remember near the end.[/spoiler]

>>97227153
I missed the chance to ask previously, but in spite of your little entity intruder, have you gotten the chance to test what you have learned?

>>97227153
>>97226645
Yeah, the last few days have been quite something. I've been fighting an infection I got on the last hunt.

So we find this ship crewless, floating. Cyrillic name, oбильный, apparently it translates to "bountiful". Normal russian fishing boat, not out of the ordinary in these waters. I strap on the go pro and get my gun, we split into three teams. One goes below, one stays on the deck of the fishing boat, and one stays on our deck so nobody can sabotage or take it. The place looked bad, some blood stains on the deck, signs of a struggle. Down below was cleaner, but still real eerie. Everyone's gone, and whatever did it was smart enough to turn off their transponder, demolish the radio, and turn out the lights. I'm recording everything I can and trying to determine if the ship itself was a front, pretty sure it wasn't, when we hear a gunshot from up on the deck. Below team rushes up to see a half-dozen humanoids, dripping wet, straight out of the freezing Bering Sea rushing our boys. Good news is, bullets seem to work just fine on them. I nail one in the chest and it goes overboard, doesn't come back up. Then another hunter, guy I didn't know very well screams like hell. There's a squid wrapped around his neck biting deep with its beak. Someone rips it off and it starts running on its tentacles across the deck. I shoot it and it explodes, then one of the humanoids bowls into me. I got a good look at it. He used to be human, but his face is all fucked up. Webbed fingers too, and a weird scaley rash. Reviewing the gopro footage, he had a cyrillic tattoo, probably one of the fishermen. One of my cellmates takes a boathook to its eye and drags it off of me. The survivors all bail but the guy who got bit in the neck bleeds out, we couldn't stop the flow that thing chewed straight through his carotid.

>>97227453
Then the boat rocks. We're all retreating back to our boat to bid a retreat and I shit you not I have footage of a massive tentacle arising out of the sea. I'm talking kraken size. We get the hell out of there, shooting the tentacles as we start speeding back towards land. During the escape I slipped and cut my hand like a motherfucker on something metal, real embarrassing way to take a hunting injury. Infection has me holed up, but I should be fine long term, and we want to keep our heads down after that anyway. Still, can't sleep well. Trying to figure out how to kill the kraken and its pelagic zombie servants. My cred in Net0 is going to shoot up from all this good footage but I feel pretty hollow about that. Getting the information out there is important, but I'm concerned more with the practical threat this thing poses.

That's what's been up with good ol' GNP. hope you all are having a better time of it out there.

honestly I find TQs a little immersion undermining for an RP thread like this.

>>97226968
>an RP thread for playing a World of Darkness/Chronicles of Darkness Hunter.
>>>/qst/ is that way
And this sort of threads weren't allowed even before /qst/ became a thing anyway

>>97227453
>>97227460
Goodness, that is certainly a dreadful discovery. Were you able to learn anything about the start of the attack? Shame about the infection but that is certainly some excitement you got. I suppose if the kraken sticks to that one area, and you took some remains, you could find a mystic to lay a curse or three on it. Wither it to death and all that.

Seance was performed by the others while I kept eyes on the town, made one hell of a breakthrough. Woman we found, she was exploring the woods for fun and stumbled upon the enfield horrors' lair. Tried to run away, they got her before she could make it to town. Strike team's going to clean out the lair today. If the monster's not at home, they'll set up some traps and wait for it to come back. About time we go on the offensive. Meanwhile, myself and a few others will hang back here in town, watch for feds and just in case the beast decides to come back here.

>>97227460
>kraken size
Just call the feds at this point. They'll bomb the shit out of that thing and claim it was a military exercise. Make sure they're the special kind of fed, the one that knows about these things.

>>97228410
>>97228412
>>97228416
I know what you are, others may not see it but I do. Your time will come, God will see to it.

>>97228559
Care to enlighten the rest of us, Leopoldoid?

>>97228802
Sorry, vow of secrecy ;). I'll give you a hint, a lot of books talk about them, most of it is false but sometimes there's a grain of truth to these tall tales.

>>97229050
>Refuse to cooperate with other Hunters
>Call random things, even trees at public parks demons that must be burnt away by God's light
>Vaguepost constantly

There's a reason everyone hates you guys.

>>97229499
I work with hunters from time to time, as long as they know how to follow orders and can be trusted. Asking too many questions is a big red flag for a hunter, you never know who's compromised.

>>97229697
>I work with hunters
>not with OTHER hunters
>as long as they know how to follow orders

Either you're just fucking with us, or some idiot got got by the rare technologically savvy monster.

>>97229737
>having expectations is a bad thing
And people wonder why so many hunters die before they can do anything meaningful.

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_pandmonium-or-the-devi_bovet-richard_1684/page/172

https://books.google.com/books?id=jtZKAQAAIAAJ
>celly vichtys

>>97229903
Nah you freudian slipped up get the fuck out fangbanger.

>>97228119
Great to hear the seance was a success. god willing your strike team will be successful and the thing will breath its last.
>>97229903
Figures the Leopoldite would fuck up like this. Everything's a vampire, they can't imagine something else until they die to it.

>>97231607
>Being THIS ignorant
At least everything outside of the name is still a secret

Strike team cleared out the lair. Rather spacious burrow. Crusted blood, scraps of the dress from the undercover police officer back when Pilgrim got shot, bones-- maybe human, but nobody's home. The team has set up traps, they'll be staying there for the night.

>>97232064
Unmarked van just pulled up to the hospital's rear entrance. at least 5 guys driver included just went in. feds, maybe. police buddy might know what's going on.

>>97232634
Shit. just got a call from our contact, something's wrong. He met Pil;grim, dude's freaking the fuck out, I'm taking a few guys to get him out. fucking feds.

You need us back? Okay. We''ll stay pu-- [A whisper] [low pitch native English speaking male]
[Silence]
[The sound of mechanical whirring]
[The sound of a snap]
Shit. [A whisper]
[The sound of suppressed gunshots]
[The sound of mechanical whining and sputtering]
Zeke, on me. Everyone else stay at your positions. [A whisper]
[The sound of footsteps and foliage rustling]
Someone's following us. Are you getting this, Wildcat? [A whisper]
Wildcat? [A whisper]

Damn, who got 'em? My bets are on the feds

>>97227395
Sort of, I can more or less make some usable fires. Nothing terrible advanced without kindling. I can make a small arc of lightning too, but it's not the best or most useful. Like a miniature taser maybe. I'm sure it'd be useful in a pinch but nothing terrible crazy as of yet until I have further mastery over it. Maybe I'll try to see if I can use it to charge a battery or explode some things remotely. I'm keeping the demon book for now, in case it comes in handy.
>>97227460
So this thing is turning people into monsters? That's rather frightful though it sounds like you can take care of the water zombies just fine. As for the Kraken, I think you'll be needing bigger guns entirely. Say a submarine or an actual armed boat. Perhaps it may be possible to hunt it as Moby Dick was hunted, though I imagine you're not exactly eager to style yourself an Ahab.
>>97232711
>>97232911
Well shit man I hope everything's fine. Not sounding the best, hopefully the government has good intentions. Neat idea to make a transmission like that

>>97233356
Ah, never quite got used to this to not slip up.
>>97233297
Well, I would certainly hope not. Humans work best together, not against each other. Even more so when hunting some strange beast the way this one's doing. My money's definitely on the government though.

>>97233297
Might be uncle sam. Sounds like the government to blast the well-intentioned citizens while letting the real monsters run amok.

That being said, I wouldn't be too presumptive. Even they weren't sure it was the feds. Could be mercenaries, those overzealous leopold guys, maybe even the monsters. Hell, it could be locals who think the hunters are behind all the deaths and disappearances.

Step away from him, now.
Calm down, we can work this out. We're on the same side.
What the hell?
Drop the gun, cop. Slide it over here.
Alright, alright. Don't shoot, j-jesus.
[The sound of metal hitting and sliding along tile floor]
Nobody has to get hur--
Shut the fuck up. Hands above your head, get down on your knees.
[The sound of a female crying]
It's okay. Don't shoot. We're on the same side, man.
You think I didn't hear what you sick fucks were talking about? Sit the fuck down. You, push the stretcher over.
Me?
Slowly, don't be a hero, think about your family.
You're making a mistake, we're on the same side.
[Unintelligible phrase]
Shut. Up. Now turn aro--
[The sound of gunshots lasting 10.4 seconds]
[The sound of female crying]
[The sound of wet coughing]
Don't get up. [Footsteps]
Fuck. [The sound of gurgling] You.
[The sound of a single gunshot]
[The sound of heavy breathing]
Anyone hit?
Bell's gone. My foot's busted.
Get his phone, let's go. Get Pilgrim out of here.
[The sound of metal hitting the floor]
Coming for me I'm dead I'm dead dead don't let me go I'm sorry I'm so sorry [Slurred speech]
Stay with me, man. We're going home.
Fuck me, that wasn't they weren't human. Did you see how fast?
Yeah, I saw. Let's go.
Wait, let me check their bodies.
[The sound of shoes squeaking]
Just ammo and wh-- Aagh! [A shout]
[The sound of buzzing]
[The sound of male screaming]
[The sound of gunshots]
Go! Stairs! [A shout]
[The sound of metal door being knocked open and then shut]
(1/2)

>>97233562
[The sound of footsteps]
Side entrance, next floor! [A shout]
You first, I get the stretcher. [A shout]
[The sound of male groaning]
It's fucking stuck. Son of a. Fucking. Bitch! [A shout] [The sound of metal crashing]
Dude you gotta walk, lean on me.
God please! [A scream]
Come on! [A shout]
[The sound of gunshots]
Move! [A shout]
Moving! [A shout]
[The sound of metal door being knocked open]
Page, We're leaving! [A shout]
[Unintelligible phrase]
[The sound of hissing]
What the fuck? [A whisper]
[The sound of a loud thump]
[The sound of a loud crash]
[The sound of male screaming]
[The sound of flesh being torn]
Fuck! [A distant shout]
[The sound of gunshots]
[The sound of hissing]
[The sound of a loud thump]
[The sound of metal snapping]
Ugh! [A shout] [The sound of a heavy object hitting the ground]
[The sound of gunshots]
[Unintelligible sounds]
[The sound of an animal wailing]
[The sound of a gunshot]
[The sound of footsteps]
Get up!
[The sound of vehicle doors opening]
[The sound of gunshots]
Drive! Go go go! [A shout]
[The sound of tires screeching]
[The distant sound of gunshots]
Strike Team, we got the monster. Get the fuck out of there, second van's going to pick you up. More bad guys, look human. Too fast. Bugs in their skin. Regroup at point C.
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>>97233356
I yoinked it from the old time of judgment news ticker website. Didn't want to use it until now lol.

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I was finally able to get the script I found onto the computer after some hassle. I am not sure what to make of it, besides characters repeating which does not seem that atypical for the rest of it.

>>97233297
Well they got their monster though it sounds far worse than expected. Hopefully Wildcat updates when it is safe.
>>97233356
That is grand work, elemental tricks are surprisingly utilitarian. You should test to see if you can touch something damp or wet without shocking yourself. A reasonable course of action regarding the book, be careful if the little imp begins talking when you are away from it.

>>97233890
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian

God why couldn't you make inhuman monsters take a week off? Is that too much to ask?

Reminding everyone that faries are very much real and a lot less friendly and whimsical than the books claim, they're more like the evil forest spirits except they don't have to live in the woods.

>>97236479
I'm expecting the leopoldoids to blow up this post but buddy, I don't think God is in the picture given what we have to deal with. That, or he ain't a loving God.

>>97236557
Yeah, and I knew a guy who swears he saw "the other side". Like you know how a lot of old fairy tales involve an otherworld? He caught a glimpse of it when trying to hunt one. It was all thorny and overgrown, and everything was green but at the same time not. Things still had their own colors but it was like a green filter over everything like the orange filter movies use for mexico.

>>97236479
Evil is simply too busy since it's work is truly endless. Make sure they get a life off AKA kill them.

>>97233562
>>97233648
>Bugs in their skin
Parasites with mind control? Demonic possession? Secret government project? Could be anything. That does not sound good, they better have someone they can call cause I got a feeling that this hunt is gonna be a hard one.

>>97233648
Well shit that doesn't sound good.
>>97233890
I just think I'll be hiding the book on my person. The scamp doesn't really fully talk often but it's not terrible conversation.
>>97236770
Breaking Bad's Mexico filter is quite a classic. I wonder if some other alternate dimensions have their own filter? Have been somewhat opening my eyes to the possibility of things outside of our reality.
>>97237049
My money's on some sort of government parasite that's gone out of control.

>>97236770
"God" being callous is oddly fitting with what plagues us. The yearly forest fires on America's west coast could serve as evidence. Rumors from survivors fleeing the disasters mention seeing figures in the infernos. The more delirious accounts involve beautiful wings.

https://cst.dk/dighumlab/duds/DFK/Dorthe/html/BILL63.htm

>>97238127
I wouldn't know save what I hear through buddies, I'm not crazy enough to leave terra firma without knowledge of how to get back. But you hear things. Knew one hunter who had a psychic friend. No clue if he was legit, but when they were looking for a missing person, the psychic claimed to see some sort of lightless pelagic world filled with incomprehensibly large creatures, and legions of smaller, far more ravenous beings, illuminated only by the crackle of lightning above a dark sea dotted with rocky, lifeless islands. Psychic started drinking heavily after that.

>>97238206
It feels wrong to say on this of all days, but I agree. I didn't grow up terribly devout but what faith I have has been shattered by ten years of knowing the truth. Arguments of free will ring hollow when you've seen an undead monster steal it from someone with but a glance and an utterance. I would be cautious to attribute angels to california wildfires, could just as easily be some esoteric spirit. Or, loathsome as it is to say, mundane hallucination.

>>97238642
True enough, I suppose we can only hope there is something else benign listening in beyond his awareness. If only to still have some hope. I would love the wildfire culprits to be anything else and I'm still not sure but the only consistent thing that surfaced were accounts of wings and the timeliness of it all. Perhaps it could've been the fairer folk but that feels...off. I'm not sure why.

>>97238206
>more delirious accounts involve beautiful wings
Yeah, I don't think they count as a reliable source

Merry Christmas, /un0/

Merry Christmas (even you, Mr Degenerate)! Plenty of cash for all your weapon and equipment needs!

Merry Christmas friends. May your feasts be filling and supplies well stocked.

Merry Christmas lads. Nice way to round out the year.
>>97238642
I doubt I'll be getting up to any of my own exploration anyway but that does sound like an interesting experience.

Important question
I've heard tales of a supernatural hunting organization of hedonistic old money that does unspeakable things to what they kill or even worse catch
Is it real? Or is it some bullshit on the forums

>>97242538
I'm pretty sure one of them is on this very chat.

>>97238127
>>97237049
>>97233356
Thanks for your concern, I'm somehow okay. Lots of shit going on, making my migraine worse. The enfield monster ambushed us when we were leaving the hospital. It was out for Pilgrim personally, I think. Ever since that night when he killed the first one. I was reviewing his trail cam footage. When Pilgrim slipped in the mud, I think he accidentally avoided the monster's attack. It was going to avenge its fallen comrade, but Pilgrim fell and the monster ended up flying over him and hitting that cop. Since then it had probably been hiding, waiting for him to show up again. Maybe followed the cops to the hospital. Pilgrim was scared out of his mind when we were with him, never seen him cry like that, I think partially due to those men who were taking him away, if you can call them that, but also maybe he knew that the beast was coming back for him. He had a window in his room. Shit idk. He didn't make it, I guess is what I wanted to say. And we lost two other men in the hospital. The only one of us who overheard their conversation was killed in the shootout. When we were leaving the hospital, Page exchanged fire with two more men. She says they had a stretcher with a tarp cover. They must've come up from the morgue, where the first enfield was stored. Town's also been cut off by the actual? feds or more of our mystery bad guys? After taking a look at the last thread, it's possible we've stumbled upon a bigger group of hunters with less than noble intentions.
I think the situation is out of our scope and control. The rest of the guys think so too. It's time we lay low, reassess... everything. Looking at the silver lining, we've killed two monsters preying on the innocent and unveiled something even worse. That's gotta be worth something. I'm going to post my notes on the monsters for future use, hopefully it doesn't need to be referenced.
This is going to be my last couple of post here for a while. Merry Christmas. And godspeed.
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>>97242538
It is real and it is overblown for the most part.

>>97242769
Enfield Monster
-reported encounter april 25, 1973 - enfield, illinois
-encountered firsthand - dec 2025 -
-details from reported case are similar to what was encountered recently
-approx 5.5 feet tall
-human-like torso, hunched over
-large mouth, sharp teeth, bite is capable of breaking firearm and doing heavy damage to steel plate body armor
-two large, pink/red, glowing eyes. glow visually oscillates, like cuttlefish? hypnosis when looking directly into eyes, maybe close range? also can possibly inflict a sort of hysteria and amnesia afterwards, similar to werewolves? I was hypnotized during last encounter-- body cam footage shows me sinking to my knees and dropping my rifle. Doesn't immediately wear off after creature is killed. I'm being monitored for long term effects.
-3 legs, capable of delivering lethal kick. can also grab and lift full grown woman with leg.
-2 short arms, sharp claws
-footprints 5+ toes?
-can leap vert/horiz 20+ feet. don't know about other movement.
-horiz leap capable of knocking over full grown man.
-no hair, leathery, gray. blends in well with trees. this with the big eyes might be why it was dismissed for an owl in 1973.
-hisses like a wildcat
-intelligent enough to remember faces and seek vengeance? intelligent enough to use weather to cover tracks?
-initially killed women traveling alone - 4 attacks witnessed. reason for attack? unknown.
-carnivorous. found bones in lair.
-attack in pairs. maybe more out there.
-lair - large underground burrow.
-reproduction? - not sure.
-first one was killed with semi-auto rifle (7.62x51mm). magdumped into head+torso area.
-second one ran off after enduring pistol fire (9mm), molotov to the back. was later killed by semi-automatic shotgun (12g 00 buck), revolver (.44 magnum), semi-auto rifle (5.56x45mm)
-bodies of both creatures are most likely in custody of unknown organization that has human/human-looking agents with supernatural abilities.
(2/2)

Been a few days. Mostly beaten the infection. Felt good enough to go to a Christmas party. Probably a mistake, there were some people there nobody in town knew, kept catching them shadowing myself and a few others. Fucking feds. Gave them the slip on the way back to Fort GNP, and I haven't seen anyone poking around on my security cameras. Still mulling over my options. Driving me up the wall.

>>97227916
The converted humans came out of the water and climbed aboard rapidly, likely the same with the walking squid. We think the derelict is a trap to lure in sailors for more people to convert. One of us had the bright idea to light up the boat beneath the waterline while we fled, several days later it's gotta be sunk, guy had a machinegun, like an old M60 I think. Can't say I know any wizards.

>>97228548
While you're probably right, there's a few practical problems. One, all I ever hear about the feds is how they're in bed with the monsters. Two, I have done things that could get me fired or worse while working for the much more mundane federal government. Fort GNP is a wonderful place, it's also incredibly illegal. Been wondering if there would be a way to safely leak information on that thing to the MIBs.

>>97233356
I got a cellmate looking into some old whaling gear, from before it got banned, to see if any of it is usable. I'd rather not Ahab it, but if we could harpoon it and slam it into an iceberg or drag it into the pack ice that might work.

>>97242538
>>97242701
Beginning to think I may have been working for them all along. I'm not really in with them enough to know but I'll certainly be letting you fellows know.
>>97242806
How would you report your friend's reaction to being alone with the creature? Or how does he talk about it if he remembers? That sort of panic does seem pretty similar to what we've felt with the werewolf in the unlucky circumstance one of us was alone after. Didn't last too long though I think, luckily. You didn't get to keep any body parts?
>>97243132
I thought you were working for the government? At any rate, best hope whaling the beast can be left to your last resort. Whaling was dangerous enough without the supernatural being involved.

>>97243132
A concerning move by such creatures. Good on you and yours for disabling their trap and shame about the lack of a mystic. Do you think it would be feasible to lure it into shallower waters where munitions would be more ideal? If you wanted to try and tip the imagined feds off, while keeping yourself safe, perhaps a fake dead drop could be arranged. You would have to catch them shadowing you and then hide out but it may allow you to leak it safely. Well as safe as one can be in our hobby
>>97242806
god grant you and yours temperance and wisdom in the coming trials. It sounds like digging some more into local history might be worthwhile if the shadowy group can move in such a manner. A businessman or such coming in during a local recession could be damning for the enemy organization.
>>97243374
Well there is one way to see if you have been working for that organization. Did anyone in your group receive a paper with a crow on it in some manner? It would not be a guarantee but it would point to them.

>>97242806
post pics of the creature please

>>97242806
Sounds interesting, may be worth searching the archives for a reference. I'm sure someone has faced something like this before.

>>97243374
>I thought you were working for the government?
I am, sorry if the way I worded the sentence led to any confusion. Like, best case scenario if they find me out they press-gang me into service and ya know at Net0 we get a LOT of negative stuff about the feds.

>>97243514
We'd considered shallows but that puts us near the shore which makes it easier to spot our duel with the eldritch horror. The pack ice plan is insane, but we're hunters, so we already do insane things. If we can drag it to the surface and get it stuck in the pack, it's trapped and we can blast it to death at our leisure, but we could also find ourselves stuck in the pack or even crushed and stranded.

https://archive.org/details/occultlaboratory00hunt_0/page/81
https://sussexfolktalecentre.org/wp-content/uploads/Gwyn-ap-Nudd.pdf#page=11
http://www.flickr.com/photos/balliolarchivist/sets/72157633033706125/
30v
https://archive.org/details/descriptionofwes0000mart/page/178
https://archive.org/details/holygreyhoundgui0000schm/page/6
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b90671845/f294.zoom

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3.76 MB WEBM

>>97245407
Get an ROV down there to poke the kraken!

>>97245407
If you do go the harpoon route to drag the kraken to the pack ice, would it be feasible to send an electric current through the line? My knowledge on electricity in cold water is a little spotty, but it couldn't hurt to stun the kraken. Alongside dousing the would-be harpoon in tranquilizers to maybe hide injury too.

>>97233890
Have you learned anything new about the script?

>>97242769
RIP Pilgrim

>>97249196
Would you care to actually discuss the damn fairies or are you going to keep vagueposting by linking random articles?

>>97249529
Ok, let's talk. Tell me what you know about the fae.

>>97249622
I KNOW they are demons. I KNOW you are also a demon. God's vengeance be upon you bloodsucker.

>>97249622
Sure. Here's what I know.
>They're fucking weird.
>Fairyland is real, and you don't want to go there.
>They do in fact take people away to fairyland, often against their will, often, just like the stories say, they leave behind a doppelganger.
>Iron definitely works, but it's hard to gauge to what degree.
>They run the full gauntlet from minor inconvenience to minor god in power.

I'm pretty sure I've hunted a handful of fae. Most of the time they don't get on our radar because they don't rampage. I get the impression they usually stay in fairyland. On the iron thing, one time this big ugly thing that had kidnapped some children (and was going to eat them), his flesh sizzled like a steak when I pressed a horseshoe to his flesh. Another one, this guy was a real piece of work, he was like a fae-middle man, kidnapping people who wouldn't be missed and selling them, often in bulk, to other fae. Before we knew we were dealing with a fairy he was dodging my bullets with ease. In our second confrontation, when I had an iron slug in my shotgun, suddenly he couldn't slip it. But he didn't burn or explode into a pile of twigs, he just bled out like a normal guy.

I don't concern myself with their nature or stuff like that. Hunters that think that way spend most of their lives in a library while people are killed or worse. I'm concerned with how to kill them, though I've got a solid suspicion that I've never encountered a heavyweight fae.

>>97248147
I discovered some things relating to it. I am rather sure that it is a kind of demonic script from previous run-ins with demons I have had before. The point where it gets weirder is that the script at the Cabin is older if that is somehow possible. The central word in the example I posted, it's an older word for growing. Only the way it is written in relation to the rest of the sentence frames the growth as "returning" growth. Not new growth of a kind but as if a kind of freeze is being turned off. The last word appears to indicate when it should be happening but it does not indicate where or any other specific signpost for said "returning" growth.

The actual script circle where the corpse was placed, is also rather interesting. As far as I see, while still in the midst of translating, it is composed of two statements. A call and response to something, probably esoteric, but the more interesting facet is that words in the first statement are mirrored in the second statement. Not just linguistically but also physically. It is rather precise and it is puzzling me. Demons, from the score I have run across, can certainly be plotters but their precision tends to be...human-like, for lack of a better word. Nothing like what I am seeing from the circle. I am tempted to try and summon something small, something minor, to question about the circle.

>>97249622
>>97249688
Don't forget that protections against them are best done in threes. The triplicate strengthens the protection and apparently unbalances the fae

>>97249622
All the folk tales I've heard from them by England just let me know they're dicks and that I shouldn't interact with them. Also, and very importantly, to not be rude lest I be cursed. Down in Florida though, can't say I've seen any or any superstitions though some of the natives swear on the trickster spirits too when they aren't drunk or gambling.
>>97249762
Why is three so important?

>>97249851
Full disclosure about three: no one knows. Catholicism and its various branches will point to religious connotations(father, son, and spirit), I have no idea about other religions. Mystics would emphasis that the action of doing things thrice is a certainty you're impressing upon reality. The more numerology inclined scholars could point to three being a "sacred" prime number though they would struggle to explain the sanctity. Bureaucracy's need for triplicate was for simplicity's sake; one for you, one for their on-site files, and one for the archive. One of the oldest recorded protections against the fairer folk came from the Norse and the Fairest were the only beings that warranted threefold protections out of all their enemies. As one can derive from these examples, and others if one researches, is that three allows for a fortification of form and function. You do things three times because you want it done strong, done right, and done forever.
Four has a similar effect though it seems to be more about empowering in an offensive connotation. You bless your bullets four times, in groups of four, and the ritual will make the damage twice as much no matter their size.

>>97249622
They're good at hiding amongst humans, better than other monsters. They're schemers, cursing their victims insteady of attacking them directly (mostly). For some reason they tend to stay away from places that are associated with order and rationality. Weaknesses? Not much is known, there is a rumor that they're weak to iron weapons but that's yet to be tested. If you kill one make sure to let us know, any method is good as long as it works.

>>97249688
>>97249762
>>97249851
>>97249967
Thank you for your prompt response. I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide any information on how to capture and contain a live specimen.

>>97250451
Friend, I think half of the comments here are saying you SHOULDN'T fuck with Fae. At any rate perhaps iron would work well? I only know from legends in passing, perhaps if you know any hermit or druidic types they might be of assistance.

>>97236479
Ain't no rest for the wicked, so we righteous have to work twice as hard

>>97240138
>>97238642
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>>97236770
That might actually be one of our West coast chapters.

God is real & Christ is King, this world is ours & our own making. When Adam-Eve partook of the fruit of knowledge we were banished from the Garden where everything was nice & cozy. This world is not kind. Its not supposed to be kind. It is a prison & an obstacle to overcome. Vampire mind control was created by the son of Adam & the First Murderer, it was not the heavy hand of God which moves us, but the mortal evils of mankind. No matter how ageless a bloodsucker, they can die. No matter how ephemeral a skinchanger, they can die. That means theyre mortal just like us. Its no different than someone being a little stronger or a little more charismatic. And everything burns.

>>97250451
>contain
Haha. The closest you get to capturing and containing is them playing into your hands. Hypothetically, I would try and scavenge strange occurrences around notable seasonal events. Fairest folk exhibit signs of being beholden to events of importance. Things like harvest moons, solstices, and equinoxes. Blue moons and hunter moons could also serve to draw them out but, again, this is hypothetical. They are like an ash storm you can make out in the distance. Noticeable and recognizable but when in the center there's more immediate concerns that make one forget their presence.

Back from the expedition & a little bit of personal Christmas vacation. Brief summary, details to follow.

Everything went well. Turned out the gateway led into a kind of pocket realm/mirror of our world. We killed the spirit thing there. Turns out the lindwyrm was a guardian to some nasty shit, & had been slumbering & sealed in the lake cave since Vikings came to America (way earlier than you'd think) the thing we killed was trying to possess it & pump it full of magic to force it to change/grow so it could wreak havoc. Apparently the seals had been eroding. My new lindwyrm armor is a dream, almost didnt want to take it off after. It saved my life twice (& technically Sarge's too) everyone lived.

Christmas was nice with the wife & kids.

>>97250451
You can trap them in conversation, trap them in a contract, or trap them in iron. But they'll fuck you over faster than you can think if you arent 100%.

The Rule of Three is a law of metaphysical reality. Creation is a Trinity/Triat/Tertiary Torus. Maiden Mother Crone, Past Present Future, etc. Divinity is Three, Nature is a Circle (zero-infinity), Man is Four, & Chaos is a spiral (666 is specifically a "corrupted divinity" as it is three spirals) Understanding God, & Jesus is Seven (4 Man +3 Divinity) The Pentangle is Magic is 5. It is the next step of man on our journey to divinity.

Going back to Three, you need three points to triangulate. To pin them in. Etc. Its all very interesting but im not sure if you guys would be interested in a lesson on numerology & sorcery.

>>97251954
What utility does Two give?

>>97252060
Gender/Sex/Man&Woman, Duality, Disparity, Binary, Night /Day, Hot/Cold, for something to have identity it is One, for something to recognize itself there must be Two. Two also as mentioned represents a mating pair. Two divides, but by dividing also multiplies.

Might anyone be familiar with creatures capable of influencing emotion? Particularly feelings of tranquility, or ennui. I am finding myself concerned with how at peace I am feeling.
>>97251920
Great to hear everything worked out, especially your armor. Good equipment is so hard to come by, each piece deserves to be cherished. Did the pocket realm collapse after its prisoner died?

https://archive.org/details/englishconquesto00girauoft/page/17

>>97250451
While I do not know of a reliable way of finding them I could offer some potential way of trapping them. I assume iron would work in a similar manner to silver's effect on werewolves. Iron restraints would be a good starting point, from there I would suggest getting a holy artifact or someone who's well-versed in holy rituals. Your safest best is combining everything and getting a real miracle worker involved (yes, they exist). If you ever capture such demon I could recommend some proven interrogation methods.

>>97251271
I'm a little skeptical of the idea that arsonists for Christ that attack every single supernatural with the same two tactics are that widespread. And I'd double down on the idea that you've never left the kiddie pool of hunting if you actually think vampire mind control is the same sport as "a little more charismatic." I saw a mind-controlled dude blow away his wife with a shotgun, all with a blank stare on his face, like he didn't even register that he was doing it.

I'd also question the virtue of a God who punished all of mankind for the hubris of two of their forebearers by locking us in a, as you described, prison filled with horrible monsters that can violate our wills, bodies, and very souls. His holy book is notably bereft of any actionable information on how to confront creatures of darkness. You randomly threw out there that vampire mind control was created by Cain... I don't recall that part in Sunday school. Would've been nice to mention that. If this is an obstacle for us to overcome, it was designed by a sadist, because most of us are set up to fail. Fuck that ancestral guilt nonsense. Children don't deserve to be eaten because of what two dipshits at the dawn of time did. If that's the nature of God, then he's just the biggest monster out there, the last one we need to hunt.

>Downright heretical discussion
Maybe working with atheist isn't so bad...

>>97253951
We have many chapters all over the west & some in Japan too. Doesn't require you to believe we exist.

And you act like these monsters we fight are outside of humanity. They aren't. They're no different than a bunch of sadistic body builders or whatever. Are you telling me that any hunter with exceptional skill or mystical power like some in this thread couldn't be just as horrible as the monsters we fight if we chose to? The monsters we fight aren't sent by God to harm us, they're just magical animals or magical humans when you get right down to it. As for the "prison" yeah, our souls are stuck here til we learn. We have the knowledge of Good & Evil. We have a conscious. Now we need to grow to learn use it properly. A shell, an egg, a Cocoon, call it what you will, is a prison too, until the new life inside hatches. God love us, he wants us to grow, just like a parent loves their kid, but we got to learn, & learning hurts

>>97254355
You don't teach your kids by locking them up with a psycho and telling them to "figure it out". Learning involves making mistakes, but I've seen too many good people meet an ugly end to buy that any of this shit is for our own good. That's abuser talk. Yeah, kids have to fall down and scrape their knee to realize that maybe they should watch where they're running. That's so many orders of magnitude less severe than what even garden variety monsters get up to. You also need to protect and nurture your children, because if you don't, they'll wind up dead or borderline feral traumatized wrecks incapable of functioning outside of rote survival. There's no nurturing, no protection, he's just locked us in a cage together and is watching us eat ourselves, by your own claim that all monster shit is human in origin.

Which I don't buy for a damn second, are you telling me demons are fake? Or that they're actually just humans? What about the fairies from fairyland, not the people they take, the big boys who did the taking? They're also just humans in a clever disguise?

Man I didn't even want to get stuck into this theological debate, but your dumb ass comes in with this rote repetition of dogma while insisting all the world's monsters can be fixed with an axe and fire? Shit no hunter I've ever met could say with a straight face one method can kill every monster. You're delusional. You haven't left the shallows if you think the scale of destruction some of these can wreak is in the same ballpark as what we can do.

>>97254355
>they're just magical animals or magical humans
Demons are very much real and as dangerous, if not more, as the legends say. Each one of these demons, witches and monsters requires a different approach. You have a lot to learn and I hope you live long enough to do so.

>>97254355
And who's been telling you this? Have you actually encounter anything that doesn't have an enforced rest period? You haven't been employing more than school yard tactics from what you mentioned. I fear to imagine how easy you would turn on your fellow humans if something whispered in your ear.
>>97253981
They can entertain other explanations, at least.

>>97254815
>>97254889
>>97255152

It's not dogma, it's the truth, not all my brothers feel the same way by the way, so don't mix me and my beliefs in with my duty as a Hunter. Some of them arent even Christian, the Maltese Cross is that of firefighters,mit goes beyond just Christianity. Our physical existence doesn't matter, the most grievous wound to our body or mind does nothing to our soul. It's not our bodies that will leave this world of darkness.

Demon ARE real! You've got me there. I've had to slay more than a few myself. Fae are just fallen angels but might as well work on the same principals. Bound by words, wounded by iron, etc. Demons are the only real "outside threat" so you've got me there. But even then, demons are not typical Hunter targets, it's mostly ghosts & vampires, & werewolves, & monsters.

>>97255152
I'm fine with them as long as they don't do anything stupid and don't question my methods.

>>97255909
I'm gonna need the fae connection explained.

>>97257354
When the power of got swept through Heaven during the Rebellion it emptied a third of Heaven. Not all who were cast out remained loyal to Lucifer. These became the Fae & the pagan gods

https://archive.org/details/bloomsbury-2024-classical-antiquity-medieval-ireland/page/337
https://www.isos.dias.ie/RIA/RIA_MS_23_P_2.html#555

I'm currently undertaking the task of training a novice, she'g got a lot of potential but I'm not quite sure of her commitment. I need to gove her a real target and I can't think a suitable one. I was going to task her with staking a weak vampire - day time, no one else in there with it, we'll be shadowing her throughout. Now that I'm thinking about it, a ghoul could be a better pick, she could bring it in alive and show me if she's ready to learn a few interrogation techniques. Any thoughts?

>>97259009
There's a lot that can go wrong with a sleeping vampire. We all hear the stories of one that sleeps through its own execution, or just like in a movie only wakes up the moment the stake goes through its heart, but let me tell you that's not always the case. I dunno if it's a matter of will or age, but sometimes they wake up and fight back. They're still sluggish, relatively speaking anyway, they seem fatigued, but a fatigued vampire can still kill.

Personally, I think you're asking for something to go wrong the way you're going about this. Being given a weapon and told "hey kill this thing, we'll be following you we swear, you just won't see us" isn't going to engender much faith in you guys if you're concerned she's wishy washy. Not to mention, if you're far enough away to not be seen, you're too far away to save her if you grossly underestimated her quarry, or even if something else goes horribly wrong. Better to hunt alongside her as an encouraging mentor so you can protect her if something goes wrong. But insist she finish the creature off, like an initiation of sorts.

Also, when you say ghoul, what do you mean? Like straight up flesh eating cannibal monster people?

>>97259009
Ghosts are a lot less lethal, & if botched, doesnt leave a real person hunting you & your family down. Send her into a haunted house for the night, make sure to put a ward in there so she can hind in it if things go too far sideways. Worse outcome is that she's torn apart & unable to defend herself or get to the ward. Worst outcome of poking a bloodsucker nest is she gets turned, all her family & friends get killed, & your cell get compromised.

>>97259009
Do you even live in an area with such enemies? Go with what's available and barring that something small. Hauntings could be ghosts, minor spirits or demons. Something relatively non-human and/or dead that'll help the justification.

>>97259383
I know the dangers of vampires, they're no easy targets. I've been preparing her for a while, teaching her everything from firearms handling and homemade explosives to exorcism rituals and surveillance so I hope she'll manage it. I'm interested in seeing how she behaves or a real assignment, a pile of ash is a pile of ash (or a stiff), doesn't matter how she does it. Of course, I'll have someone really close, someone she has never seen before and won't have a reason to suspect. To answer your question - ghouls are slaves to the vampire, doing their master's dirty work. They consume the tainted blood of a vampire in return for a fraction of it's power. They don't die to sunlight or any other vampire-specific weakness, bullets and fire still work. I was considering them because they could be easier to capture (in theory) but they're still human, I don't know if she's ready for dealing with that yet.

>>97259391
A holy ward is never a bad idea but everyone who's capable of performing such miracles is either too far away or unable to help. I'm not really a specialist when it comes to hauntings, I know the basic methods of dealing with spooks but I'm not confident in sending her to deal with something I'm not that experienced with.
>she gets turned, all her family & friends get killed, & your cell get compromised.
I hope not, I'd be a shame to lose such a promising recruit. That's also the reason she's being kept in the dark for now.

>>97259438
Plenty of vampires in big cities. They're inhuman enough to justify killing, all these silly folk tales and legens do wonders. I've mad sure it's a weak one, been watching it for 2 weeks. Still following the same routine, trying to blend in with humans. They're great actors, pretending to care about their "family" and such, even when no one is looking. These ones are usually the weakes when it comes to my and my friends experience.

>>97255909
I don't know the demon in my book is pretty chill when he doesn't want out or is demanding my life essence. I'd be remiss to listen to his ramblings though, seems a tad unstable. Tells me to "watch out for the machines" whatever that means.

>>97243514
Funnily enough our invitation to the England gathering does have a crow on it. Apparently it'll be multiple day event, there'll be a costumed ball and everything. I'm not entirely comfortable with them asking me to bring the chair though.
>>97245407
Well I didn't mean to assume, I had just remembered from earlier Fed discussion. Perhaps they might be less careless employers, I don't know. Best of luck with your kraken hunt, the submersible looks useful but dangerous.

>>97260252
Oh that is definitely pointing to the Abbey. I hope you are well off, they get picky about their dues. Sounds like the chair and the party is, perchance, leading to an execution to top off the ball. That or a hunt involving the werewolf. One can never be too sure unless you know the host. I am going to be stricken with envy if it isn't an execution. Positively green with envy, I can feel it.
Also feel free to tell me if I overstep, but could you ask your little friend in the book if they know anything about a rituals of renewal that happen at the year's turn? Everything I found about this script circle translates it as such but I can feel things are a miss and it is driving me up the wall.

>>97259929
>To answer your question - ghouls are slaves to the vampire, doing their master's dirty work.
Shit man, I know about Renfields. Why call them ghouls though? They drink their master's blood, they don't eat flesh.

I still think you're playing this a bit risky anyway. So many things can go wrong and get a promising young hunter killed through no fault of their own.

>>97259929
If you're that deadset on blooding her with a vamp, be sure to be there alongside her.

Speaking of vampires. I'm glad I live out in the boonies and only hunt weird ugly stuff, half of which is the equivalent of a very dangerous animal.

Because I know I'd fold immediately to a sexy she-vampire.

>>97262697
Truly. Sexy vampires are such a danger. I'm not sure how other hunters resist. The one time I came face to face with one, she was working against a mutual enemy so there was no need to kill her. It was like she read my mind with how sensual she was.

>>97263714
>>97262697
Helps to have a wife thats hotter than they are & to remind yourself that they sweat blood, & have blood spit, so anything down south is also lubricated by blood. Only freaks are willing to entertain the idea of sticking their dick in bloody cold corpse pussy, just because its a vampire chick that winked at them

>>97260777
We always called them that. Guess there are some differences around the globe when it comes to terminology.

I'm still wondering as to how I should go about it. She's gonna have to go throught her fist solo assignment sooner or later. Losing her would be a huge loss considering all the time it took (including the vetting process) to get here to where she is. Honestly, mentoring is a challenge in and of itself.

>>97262314
That thought has crossed my mind. I'm still thinking about a good place to hide nearby, close enough to respond but far enough not to be seen.

>>97265161
Sounds like this is her first solo anything. If so might I suggest she does a solo investigation and then you both take down the vamp? Impart the knowledge and habit that it's better to tackle the actual monster with numbers

>>97266966
That might not be such a bad idea but she'd need to track something that would allow us to bring her along.

>>97268223
Have her track the vamp. It sounds like she doesn't even know you've been setting it up, so use what you already worked out

Favorite weapon? Not even the best per se, different things require different approaches, just your favorite.

>>97272084
Hellfire. Nothing tops the eliminating power of hellfire

Happy New Years gentlemen, finally arrived at England.
>>97260451
We'll see, most of the event will take place during the New Years celebration and tomorrow. This book demon wasn't very helpful on your question, just grumbled something about new blood and told me to feed it some cats. Rather think I have a weirdo bound in this book and not so much a spiritual monster.
>>97262697
I wouldn't think so, the lack of skin temperature is quite a distraction.

>>97273491
what, like the missile?

>>97273940
No, no. Me and the bois don't have the budget for such things. This is genuine fire. Nothing burns cleaner or, well, 'purer'. Fate loves a weapon of irony.

>>97274458
Are you being poetic or are you claiming to control the fires of hell? What are you, Ghost Rider?

>>97273491
Fire is good, it was mankind's first tool, hellfire on the other hand is bad, that shit uses your soul as kindling.

>>97274804
Our brothers can. Though you need to be initiated & you gotta be trustworthy enough to know it's mysteries before you pray to Uriel.

>>97274804
Control's a choice word if you wanna get down to it. Can anyone control a fire? Despite what the fireman might say, they're not controlling it. Same principle applies with hellfire, though the effects are more serious. Naturally.
>>97275018
Hellfire only gets at the soul if it subsumes the corporeal. One just needs to be in touch with themselves. At a level most of us can't get to easily. You It sounds like you know how hard it is to a control both types of fires. That's the danger.

>>97275091
You sound like some of the demon thralls we hunt.

>>97269794
I'll probably drop a single hint and let her take it from there. From what I've seen it shouldn't be that hard to piece everything together.

>>97274458
>>97273491
Very interesting, can you give us some clues as to how we could use it? Does it require any ritual or other stuff like that?

>>97273491
Automatic shotguns (USAS 12 my beloved) for encounters that require a lot of firepower, rifles or handguns for more delicate tasks.

>>97275106
It's a fine line, I will admit. It's something I try not to use often but sometimes needs must and all that. Also like how else are you gonna kill a nemean? We couldn't strangle it and drowning takes too long.
>>97275188
It tends to be personal, when trying to learn, because the way it clicks tends to be different for each person. At least when it comes to using it seriously. If it's just accidental, it's like any sort of elemental magic with more malicious intent. You want whatever is troubling you gone. Permanently. It shouldn't come back and fire tends to be the most solid connections between the realms. Considering the emotions one might feel as well; it tends to, unsurprisingly, spring up when someone's doing fire magic. Once you've survived an accidental appearance, it becomes more a matter of recalling the feelings to get a better hold on the connection the caller made. Cross isn't exactly...wrong saying I sound like a thrall but actual research about hellfire is so hard to find. Demons don't give a shit beyond its destruction and warlock are so whiny about how I shouldn't cut them open.

Happy New Year, fellows. May our trials be successful.

>>97273896
First welcome back to England. Understandable with the imp, thank you for trying. I shall hunt down a cat. I hope your initiation is not too unusual. The food should be delicious though. That is one consistent thing with the Abbey. Positively divine catering.

God damn shit fuck. Can I go to one social function without running into a monster? I'm at a damn New Years Party last night and three pale motherfuckers crash it. One's 7 feet tall with a beard half that length. One's a short grubby guy in a suit with more grease than hair. And the third was dressed like a holiday themed stripper, pretty much just wearing christmas ribbons. This wasn't even some ritzy upscale party, just a get together of like 20-ish people. The greasy guy said some shit about "new year, new life for you all" but I didn't get much more because the adrenaline had hit and I was going for a weapon.

Now I'm beat to hell, laying on the couch. I think they were vampires, because I managed to get beard guy by grabbing his beard and pulling it into the fireplace. He went up like a matchstick. A few other hunters were there, we got lucky. Drove the other two off but now we're all beat up and there's two dozen terrified normies from that party looking for answers. One night, that's all I ask for.

>>97278530
Damn that's some shit luck. What happened at your last social function? Also yep, definitely a vampire with how that one died alongside their words. Did he get a drink spilled on?

>>97279515
You mean before this? Had to duck out of Thanksgiving for an exorcism, because the spirit was gonna kill the host if we didn't do it then and now. I don't even bother with Halloween anymore, there's always some bullshit on Halloween. Before that I was at an open house where there was a haunting.

>Did he get a drink spilled on?
Not sure what you're asking here. I didn't see anyone throw a drink in his face. He was whooping my ass during the fight, hit me so hard I went staggering back and almost fell into the fireplace. He was hesitant to follow so I called him a pussy while I grabbed a fire poker as a weapon. That pissed him off enough to get back in my face, when he grabbed the poker I let it go, grabbed his beard, dropped to the ground to use his high center of mass against him, and managed to pull part of it into the fireplace. It burned my hand his beard went up so fast. His pals didn't wanna get close to him, and there wasn't much water for him to put himself out with, so he died screaming running out of the house.

>>97279963
Man that is some bad luck. Have you ever checked to see if you're cursed?
>Fire
Ah don't worry about it, vampires are weird. Good on you for sticking it to him though, hopefully the others don't bother ya.

>>97281232
>Have you ever checked to see if you're cursed?
I'm just bitching. I managed to have an uneventful Christmas.

>hopefully the others don't bother ya.
Now that definitely won't be happening. I'm no vampire expert, but I got a cellmate who knows them a bit better than usual. He says that vampires come in two flavors: Smart with a low profile and loud, aggressive, and stupid. The former basically never make it on Hunter's radar and if they do by bad luck, they prefer to just wipe our minds and move on. The latter make up a good 90% of the ones hunters actually fight, and trying to turn a whole New Years party sounds a lot like the latter. I'll be seeing them again.

>>97281863
That's good. One can never be too careful in our line of work. If it ever gets too rote in happening be sure to check for curses.

>>97272084
Can't got wrong with a car. I'd be horrified to see what could survive colliding with a 2001 toyota corolla at 60 mph.

Fucking damn kids. I don't know how other veterans put up with kids that just went through things. God love 'em, the spirit is there but half the time they are damn near suicidal. It's so much work.

>>97286388
Even idiots have their uses, ever tried the bait method?

>>97286416
Yeah but they won't listen half the time. Closest to danger furthest from harm also denote proximity to kill. It gives one an extra weird rep when all your bait 'n' switch plans have hte bait running off on a rampage.

>>97272084
A sniper rifle is a solid choice

>>97272084
I've been using a trusty elephant gun passed down by my grandfather, hasn't failed me yet.
>>97276184
The food was rather good, though the entertainment was certainly a choice. I'm pretty sure I saw a Satyr getting whipped at one point. Certainly interesting. I've been told for my initiation I'll be skinning the wolfman I caught live, not sure entirely how to feel about that.
>>97287706
Bait can be dangerous yeah, there was an attempt back during the wars to turn dogs and cats into suicide bombers though often enough they ran back into their own army. I suppose the lesson to be learned is to always be mindful that bait and manipulations can always be turned around on you.

>>97287706
It's not a perfect plan but with the right setup you can push them towards the target without having to contact them.

>>97286416
>>97287706
do not use inexperienced hunters as cannon fodder you morons.

>>97294396
They do it to themselves. I try my best to stop it

>>97294396
I usually ignore them but if they're going to get in my way I might as well make them useful for once.

>>97295954
This is why the monsters are winning.

>>97296008
Blame society, the people are too lazy to investigate and the state is too corrupt to let them know. Once people open thie eyes for the scond time it'll be over for these freaks.

>>97296797
Are you so certain? While numbers are our strength, it can easily become our weakness. Angry mobs get out of hand quickly, are we so confident that we could effectively exert control of them and direct them to real targets? If we're the experts, do we even have the correct information to root out every monster? How many innocent people would be killed just trying to find one vampire's renfield (or ghoul, as some people call them it seems)? How many false positives until the mob stops trusting itself and we all disintegrate into paranoid factions? How long until the monsters that have preternatural charisma, or mind control, start leading the mob against us?

The infrastructure of most "functional" countries is extremely fragile. Even without the enemy having the foresight to boom our grid if things come out in the open, things would start falling apart rapidly if half the population is spending their days and nights as vigilante mobs trying to root out the paranormal. Then we start to see just how few places can actually feed themselves anymore. We lose the ability to field large groups as everyone starts fending for themselves over food, or relocating to where it is. We lose power, the economy crashes, people starve. Would it probably put a massive dent in the monster population? Absolutely. Would it not be worth it? I'm not sure.

Which is not to say I'm being a defeatist and all "we should give up." What I am saying is that I don't think it's as easy as blowing the lid on the truth and then walking to victory at the crest of a human wave.

>>97297075
There are many groups operating in the shadows, planting their people just in case anything happens. Once the time comes they'll do what they've been told and point the masses to the right targets. Of course, they all have different final goals but any help is better than none. Truth is, we allready had a test run back in the 14th century. There were people caught in the crossfire but it put the fear into anything that wasn't human (reduced a good number of the too) but it went pretty well overall. The people are the real problem, they've grown too soft, too spineless. Imagine some vampire sob story being plastere on every news channel 24/7, more than half of these idiots would believe it and feel sorry. All these movies portraying monsters as the "real" victims. Every hunter with a real end goal should look for ways to influence what people think and believe. Target government ininstitutions, media and academia. When the day comes we will be ready, steering the masses in the right direction, hardening their minds against manipulation. With proper coordination and a clear goal we could finish what our forebears started.

>>97297466
You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical about the existence of hunter sleeper agents in the halls of power just waiting for the normies to harden their hearts. Truthfully, I don't think that the masses need more venom. You could argue they have sympathy for the wrong things but as far as spine is concerned? There's bottomless malice within the human heart. I'd dare say the softness is physical rather than emotional, and it's that very malice that I am afraid will spiral out of control. The ability for us to harm monsters has increased moderately since the 14th century (every hunter has had an "aww shit, bullets don't work very good" moment), but our ability to harm ourselves has increased astronomically. If you successfully psyop people to be more suspicious, superstitious, and unempathetic to outgroups, you're just as likely to create bloody civil wars as you are to create some sort of... hunter consciousness within the masses.

Would you really trade billions of lives, and risk the very real possibility of blowing ourselves back into the stone age, just for a decent chance at wiping the monsters out? I think you both under and overestimate your fellow man in different ways.

>>97297591
I wouldn't say I overestimated the masses. They are tools to be used, the trick lies in how well you can wield them. Letting them off their leash is a very bad idea. That's why you need structural power, the government is great a getting loads of people to do what it wants the way it wants. There are government agencies dedicated to fighting the supernatural (I know myself) but as always, they're bogged down by bureaucracy and secrecy. Imagine GWOT but instead of fighting terrorists you're going after bloodsuckers and shapeshifters. Of course, the government would rather keep things a secret, we know just how afraid they are of scandals and such. Imagine giving them that push they need, putting them in a situation where they can't hide it anymore. They'll have to make a decision and with the right prep they'll make the right one. Fear and hatred against a common enemy will unite the people and the state will make that hatred legitimate. Of course, innocent people will get hurt here and there (to eliminate lycanthropy you must exterminate the entire bloodline), our methods aren't perfect but proper oversight will minimize the casualties. Careful planning and precise execution is what hunters should be all about and that's why laying down the foundation for change is so important.

>>97297891
Very concerning rhetoric. I don't think anyone who calls their fellow man a tool to be used should be calling themselves a hunter. You have hubris beyond hubris to think you could actually direct hysterical angry mobs with any degree of precision, let alone enough to prevent a societal collapse. You're looking at Johnny Public like he's a character in a video game that robotically obeys. Mobs are stupid, inertial, but they aren't machines. Even if they were, machines have a horrible tendency to break when you need them, even if you keep them well-oiled. Societal upheavals, and that's what a mass revelation of the truth is, are never clean. There are always splinter factions, infighting. You're confident that you'll be Stalin in this exchange but you're just as likely to be Trotsky. The GWOT comparison is weak. These aren't inbred towelheads half a world away, these are monsters that have been with us since the dawn of time.

All of which is ignoring enemy action. Do you expect them to lie down and take it? If the government knows, as you claim, why are they afraid of scandals? Why do they keep it to themselves? If institutional capture is the winning strategy, and the overwhelming majority of people have zero actionable information on the monsters that are quite real, what does that say about who captured the institutions? The most important thing we hunters can do when planning is to understand that enemy action can ruin our entire plan and force us to improvise. They aren't stupid either. They have powers we don't. I think you're applying magical thinking to the state, its power, and human hatred of outgroups, while acting as if the enemy can't fight back, and that they don't have huge inherent advantages when playing the game of institutional capture.

When will it ever end? This is hell. I wish things could go back to how they were, or rather how I thought things were before I learned about all of this shit. I can't keep going. I can't imagine myself 5, 10 years in the future. I don't know what to do.

>>97298866
Perhaps find a group of likeminded lads and do what you can, as Grandad Freeman used to say.

>>97298866
Same trick as any job, you gotta pace yourself to avoid burn-out. Don't spend every night huddled up with the police scanner scrutinizing the standard array of junkies and fatherless behavior looking for that one call that MIGHT be the result of a haunt. Take a more defensive posture. Work one case at a time unless something falls in your lap right now. And make sure to network, many hands make light work.

My family's been in the hunting business since 1816. We've managed to balance the vigil with a... healthy enough home life to keep our line around for 200+ years. Granted, we've always had money. Not the RICHEST, mind you, but comfortable wealth. Which helps. But most families piss even little fortunes away in less than one century, so we gotta be doing something right.

My daddy still made it to football games just fine, because he had an area he sticked to and he didn't tilt at no windmills if you catch my drift. Mommy too, for what it's worth, but she ended up mostly playing support on a count of the kids. Just keep your neck of the woods clear of the things that're putting people in the morgue, and don't overdo it. I mean shoot, another advantage of networking with other hunters means you can settle down with someone who's "in the know". Save you a lot of head and heartache.

>>97298866
Taking breaks helps. Might not seem like it in the moment or shortly after, but resting in the aftermath helps

Gentlemen, I had not noticed it before, but werewolves bleed quite a lot. I fear I'll never be able to wash the blood from my clothes. Very annoying. The skin also wasn't able to be preserved but a lot of us got to wear it. As it turns out, rich people are weird. Though perhaps, I am now one of those weird rich people. Still not quite a fan of the animal torture but when the going's good and all that.
>>97298866
Thankfully, all my work is elective and I feel confident enough that I probably won't be needing to deal with stuff in my local vicinity. You should try building up a community though, that might be helpful.
>>97299437
Nice to hear, I do find pacing myself during hunts works out for the better. Being rushed often does not lead to good circumstances, as I can attest to with my broken leg.

Just saw a locust while investigating a farm, at least I think it was a locust. Flew away before I could get closer. I thought they went extinct in North America years ago.

>>97302687
Brother, I'd recommend you cut ties with these fellas soon as you can. They don't sound like no hunters one would want to truck with.

>>97303477
We have "locusts" (grasshoppers) all over but the kind that make crop-destroying swarms are extinct. You could've just seen one of them. Set up a game camera in the area maybe, and if you catch it on video, take it to an entymologist to confirm what species it is.

Friends and fellows, never fight an Angel of Sloth. It is a trial most foul. Horrid little beast said it was "of Stillness" but it reeked of the sin. It exhibited something similar to hellfire as well, which just furthers confirmed its...otherworldly nature but I have never seen such demon slough off an exorcism. Absolutely fucking horrid little creature, I tell you all.
>>97303700
Welcome to the club, friend. I had wanted to ask if you're little initiation also had a incubus to complement the satyr but neither here nor there. Terrible to hear your trophy didn't survive after all that trouble. I imagine the pelt would have looked splendid as a duster. Hopefully the other odd aristocrats are being hospitable. It would be terrible to distance you after your initiation.
>>97298866
That is the downsize to eldritch knowledge. You can never unlearn it. You just manage the unceasing void that is forever looking into your mind. Or you die. Hopefully not, we need all the stand up citizens we can have.

Okay I gotta ask, one of you has to know this one. Are those old mexican luchador monster movies legit? Because the special effects are way too good for 30s-40s-50s black and white mexican B-roll, and some of that fight choreography is insane, not the usual toss, toss, obviously staged punch you might see in another luchador flick from the time.

>>97305661
Maybe one in six are mostly real

>>97303477
Could just be a random bug, especially if the area was lively

Storytime long in the coming, ive been too busy to devote actual time to it, sorry for the long delay.

So our trip through the gate went well as I posted, Brooklyn's drone didnt have color or ingress the capacity to show what was really going on there. Sure there was the twisty trees, but also a fog, except it was fog with color, lots of different colors, kind of made my eyes go sideways to be honest. The place looked like the same park & lake area we came from but different. We think we were either in the Spirit world or a pocket dimension. There wasnt much in the way of structures so we set up at the same cave the gate was in for cover while the inna woods guys went outside to scout. First day in the spirit world was largely uneventful beyond me finding some stone & one copper tablets in the sand by the gate.

>>97310583
The tablets, as far as we could translate talked about some viking making it to America & settling. But they did something to anger a "evil thing". So they gathered their warriors but they could not slay it. So the shaman/priest/magic man opened a rift to the spirit world inside his cave where he lived & let it possess him. Then he walked through & sealed the gate behind him. His familiar was the lindwyrm, which was bound to protect the place on the bother side & hibernated. The shaman went mad pretty quickly after that. That's the history I guess. When our scouting party came back they told us down river there was footprints along the bank. Skeleton footprints. Next day, we go & track down the owner of those money feet. We find red bloody looking skeleton carved with runes, shambling around screaming & welding a staff of really odd metal or maybe crystal? We fight the thing & it was horrible. Super strong, not easy to hurt cause its just a skeleton so bullets didnt exactly hit great & when they did they'd sometimes bounced off cause this guy apparently really liked his calcium. Sarge decides to take some paracord & he & Brooklyn clothesline the thing. Then Bob the Builder jumps in with a hammer & it was like the bells of heaven rang each time his hammer smashed into the monstrous bones. Killed our ears, but he was able to break its bones a bit & show some progress but then it said a distinct word in some alien tongue & the paracord snapped. It tossed Bob into the lake & pulled its staff back like a javelin & with another word it was covered in roaring green fire

>>97310590
During the fight, I was shooting with various different prepared ammo to probe for weaknesses but when we moved on to tying it down & letting Bob beat on it i went on rope duty so I was near Sarge when the thing cast its weapon at him like a bolt from the blue. It was only my Hermes Stride that gave me the speed to intervene & take the hit on my lindwyrm scale armor. It worked insanely well, no marks & I didnt hardly feel a thing. After that i used my magic to blast the fucker & one of the innawoods guys grabbed the staff in net & ran off with it so he couldnt use it again. They were careful not to touch it which j consider a blessing. So then using magic & more dogpile tactics we pulverize the skeleton & we see this black mass shadow fly out & it tries to go after each of us in turn but I made us all wards against possession ages ago so no dice. The evil spirit doesnt give up though. It starts weaving magic so I try to counterspell, the rest throw holy water & every thing else we can think of to kill spirits & ghosts. Eventually the evil thing fades & dies. We get back with the innawoods guys who ask me what to do about the staff. Eventually we just decide to break it with Bob's lucky hammer then burned it to othing Everything seemed quiet & we packed up & left. Got to spend Christmas with the family & all is good with the world. Since the holidays we've been able to poke around the spirit world & the gate & nothing seems terribly out of place. Im thinking it might be a good place to set up shop every now & then to study

>>97310597
>>97310590
>>97310583
Forgot the name

>>97299437
This is how I operate too. Though I dont come from wealth. I use magic to sell gold when I need cash. I keep to my own back yard & Ive got other guys i can trust & we always try to respond with overwhelming force so as not to have any close calls

>>97305661
Yeah the Jose films are legit, he was one of those catholic witch hunters, the Vatican bankrolled a lot of films.

>>97310583
>>97310590
>>97310597
Damn fine work. Very interesting finds as well. Hopefully the prisoner's erased for good.

>>97310583
>>97310590
>>97310597
The trip to a different dimension was a stupid idea but you managed to get that thing (I hope, demons and spirits are never that easy to kill). I would get rid of that gateway for good, who knows what else lurks on the other side?

>>97316663
Is there an effective way to deal with the gateway? Maybe disrupting the threshold shuts down the portal

>>97316663
I needed to solve the mystery.

>>97314409
Thanks

>>97318774
No idea

>>97319083
Helluva way to solve a mystery. What's next for you and your armour?

>>97320806
Nothing on the agenda right now. Armor is gonna go in my hunting kit though. I previously used a brigandine style steel plate lined carhartt jacket, but now the lindwyrm scale is gonna replace it. For me im gonna relax with my family for a while & study my magic tomes. If something spooky comes up I'll hunt it.

I would like to thank that guy who suggested having my trainee do some tracking. Didn't even need to help out that much. Honestly, I'm impressed by her ability to sit there and wait patiently, not something you see amongst the youth these days (even I'm not a fan of sitting on my ass). I have feeling I'll have to send her do some arson if she keeps this up. More time and more work on her inhibitions and she'll be a capable hunter.

>>97324929
I'm just glad you didn't go with your original "throw her at a young vampire" plan.

>>97325113
I'll have to throw her at something eventually but for now I'll focus on giving her the basics. One she's a proper member I'll consider sharing some more sensetive information and techniques.

>>97324929
Glad to hear it's working out. If she can sit still like that for hours on end, you might've just discovered a budding marksman. Those vamps won't see her coming.

>>97322212
A well deserved rest following the holidays. Smart

>>97328375
The more skills she'll have the better, by the time I'm done she should be a pretty capable generalist. Later on she might even decide to specialize in hunting particular targets. Reminds me of my time with my mentor, good times...

>>97331679
Good to hear. A strong foundation is one that survives. She favoring a weapon yet? That's always a special moment

>>97335360
Not yet as far as I know. I showed her how to handle shotguns, handguns, assault rifles and all that fun stuff. Time will tell I guess.

>>97336771
Good selection, though now I'm curious. It sounds like this is your protégé's first run-in with anything inhuman. She has ran into something before, right?

>>97339431
>She has ran into something before, right?
Of course, that's the reason I took interest in her. Going from being a victim to actively hunting monsters is not that easy. I'm trying to start off with relatively easy threats, can't go throwing her at demons or other stuff like taht right off the bat.

>>97342709
Right yeah, that sounds...ah that's why. It was asked before. I think. That's what I get for recovering from a concussion. Anyway, I bet that first hunt will be righteous. Having a student to mentor sounds fun, I suppose I should keep an eye out.

>>97345404
Take your time, make sure to vet them properly and keep an eye on them. You do that and then decide if your potential candidate has what it takes to srart training.

Do you give credence to the notion of benign or even benevolent supernaturals?

>>97350957
Perhaps in a passive kind of way. Like a bear sharing hunting grounds with a tiger because what they eat are separate concerns.

>>97350957
Not for a second. They're as "benevolent" as they need to be in order to fool you.

>>97351514
>>97351961
So you reject the notion that a supernatural being, even if they began their existence as a normal human being like you or I, could ever be good or even benign?

Why? Is there something about being supernatural itself that makes these people become ontologically evil?

[spoilers] So this thread is pretty much done for, what do you guys want to do next? [/spoilers]

>>97353314
I'm going to figure out spoilers. The concept might deserve a bit of a break. Overall it was a bit of fun during the holidays