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fuck red edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
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CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
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https://mtg.wtf/

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>Play online for free
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>What is EDH?
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>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
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>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
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>Previously
>>97222121

>TQ
what's the color you hate the most and why?
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Reminder that NuWizards refuses to print color hosers because they will allow ultra-efficient control decks to flourish once again and that absolutely does not make the line go up.
>t. Hasbro
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>>97232838
>>what's the color you hate the most and why?
I like all the colors. They all have great design and flavor (prior to F.I.R.E.)

I pick Blue because of counterspells. I understand how counterspells works, why they are in the game, the cards they keep in check, the strategies to play with/against counterspells, etc...
Counterspells can even be fun to play against. Learning to dance to the tempo of the counterspell, strategizing resource management, knowing when to be aggressive, which order to play your cards in, how to bait out a counterspell, etc...

What I don't like it twofold:
1) Total lockout. I don't like games where each turn is "Draw card, play land, throw my countered spell into the graveyard, pass turn, watch clock, struggle to retain my sanity as my opponent just counterspelled eight times in a row and I have nothing on board and the cards in hand cost too much mana."

2) F.I.R.E./UB/Commanderification of Magic game-balance. This is just powercreep. It makes counterspells feel even worse in three ways.
-1a} Counterspells cost too much & do too little when my opponent's creatures all have an ETB/LTB/Attack-trigger and they are going to out value anything I can put onto the board if I actually keep mana open for the counterspell. Counterspells become categorically useless if all it takes is for my opponent to win to get one creature onto the board. This "Counterspell/Remove-this or ELSE YOU DIE" F.I.R.E. design for creatures is awful and has turned MtG into Yugioh where you just vomit all your resources onto the table (solitaire style) and try to bludgeon your opponent to death before they can respond.
-2b} Tempo doesn't work when Wotc prints uber-value permanents that draw-all-the-cards, make-a-zillion-tokens, and remove-all-enemy-creatures. If the counterspell-player breaks the draw-parity with some BS permanent that draws all the cards forever... There's no point for the opponent to continue to play. It's not earned, it feels underhanded.
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>tq
blue because most blue players take too long to play their interaction
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Maro is a man with no principles, no talent, and no dick. A lying corporate pig happy to shit down the trough to the other pigs for some extra slop. Both a slave and a slave master. What a pathetic little man.
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>>97232957
continued...
-3c} Counterspells lock me/my-opponent out of the game. This only really works on slower decks; Counters harshly punish players that actually want longer games and a bit of back and forth, forcing them to play Red-Deck-Wins strategies to outpace the Counterspell deck, again devolving into effectively Solitaire by ignoring your opponent and gatling gunning their life total with creatures.
So the meta has evolved to the point where you have to remove all the creatures forever, but because they all have etb/value-bs, it makes more sense to play board-wipe-tribal...
Board-wipe-tribal has its place, but if the value output of each individual creature is tuned so damn high, what are we even doing here? Competitive coin-flipping.
-4d} Competitive coin-flipping isn't fun. If I'm playing counterspells and I go second, I have no real chance to get enough mana to effectively trade resources with my opponent because he's going to vomit endless-creature-value onto the board before I even have a chance to respond.

Blue's counterspells are great for the color. But game-balance/design-wise, CS need to have built-in limitations on what they can counter so that the Blue player doesn't just have all-the-answers-forever-and-ever... And the creatures/other-permanents need to have their value toned down so that failing to remove one creature doesn't mean that you will automatically lose. Games are much more fun when the balance between decks is a close parity and there can be a variety of play-styles.

Wotc/Hasbro have screwed up MtG game balance so badly between 2019 and now.
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What did you get your tgf this Christmas?
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>>97232838
I hate every color
White has zero identity now and is just black without the prices black has to pay
Blue is similarly a pile of value building slop with no focus because hasbro decided draw-go control is the devil
Green feels the most honest, aside from a handful of busted permanents, and thus is basically a dead color
Black has been left behind by the power creep, somewhat ironically because it was the polebearer of retarded powercreep just a couple years back
Red is sinful. Red is evil. Red doesn't follow any design constraint anymore. The only thing red lacks is counter magic and it doesn't really need it when it can, at instant speed, drop a nuclear bomb in response to a counterspell being put on the stack.
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>>97232838
>TQ
green i guess just because it has the least amount of cards i find fun or interesting in the game
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>>97232838
Red. I’m so fucking tired of the bullshit JOTC has been printed for this retarded color lately, besides when you see how broken the color can be you also notice how little brain you need for pilot decks with it
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>>97233130
Red card be like

If you took a breath this turn, create an otter token with prowess and firebending 7

If you forgot to breathe this turn target creature you control sacrifices itself and deals damage equal to an opponents life total to target opponent. If it did, create an otter token with prowess and firebending 7
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>>97232838
>TQ
I hate blue so goddamned much after everything JOTC stole from White to give it to blue. It always needs the most bans in ANY format, it always breaks color pie rules, and JOTC treats it like the flagship color of the entire fucking game every goddamn year. You literally cannot name a single year where JOTC DIDN’T suck off blue and gave it free broken shit, only to begrudgingly and quietly ban it with a smarmy kikety “whoopsie-doodle” and promise to try really really hard with sugar on top NOT to do so again sryuslee tho fr fr
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>my sister in law started referring to my brother (her husband) as bisexual
>they both suddenly have an interest in commander
coincidence?
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>>97233497
You mean your Xister in law
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I had a dream last night that I met up with my ex and we started making out. I could feel the warmth of her on my hand through her thin dress around her waist. I woke up and realzied I really desired that from Thalia. I feel guilty for dreaming of another woman besides Thalia. A woman who dumped me 2 days after meeting my parents, per HER request. Just to humiliate me. Thalia would never treat me like that. Thalia would never date me in the first place, but she wouldn't string me along either. That fact fucking hurts. It fucking hurts knowing I will never be good enough for Thalia. I've been working out when I can and I'm still not much stronger. I'm still weak and pathetic. I can't even realistically afford to move out from my parents. I fucking hate myself. Lorwyn Eclipsed is the only thing for Magic I'm even looking forward to and it's probably gonna be pozzed as fuck.

Sometimes I wish I could leave this world behind and be one of Thalias trainees. Maybe in that world, without microplastics and high fructose corn syrup, the rigorous calisthenics she put us through every day would actually have an effect. Maybe she would notice my fire and devotion, and find it attractive. So long as I didn't let her know it was all for her, which I know you shouldn't get /fit/ for women but god I want her. I wish I had saved my virginity for her, the way she is saving herself for her husband. I am still genetic trash and could never be good enough for her, but still. I wish I was. I wish I could dsnce with her by lantern light around the wreath poles at the fautumn festival. I wish I could feel her lithe young body wriggling up against mine. I wish I could kiss her and hold her by the waist. Even just to be married to her just to kiss her, not even sex ever, would be fine with me.
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Give me a short, chubby, feral, unkempt, R 1/2 female goblin wife and I'm happy
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it really is that simple.
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>>97233641
I will never forget what they took from us
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>>97232995
>heavyset badass of Asian ethnicity
>A total and utter badass. Mess with her and she'll burn you to a crisp.
That isn't real, right? One of you made that up, right?
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>>97233839
That particular "art director", Justice Gedde, is a very funny one. Too bad they/them deleted their twitter because it was a goldmine for comedy (or tragedy, depending on perspective). Xhe was also responsible for black Aragorn.

Mind you, it didn't get that much better after xhe left, Wizard still has one designated tranny every set and they also turned clan Mardu into the tranny clan
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>>97233859
Alesha retcons are so confusing tgat i'm compleatly lost with what she's now.
Originally it ws just mtg Mulan, asian woman dresses up as a guy to be a soldier.
Now i think it's a guy pretanding to be a guy? As if that's needed
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>>97233859
Shit, that IS pretty funny... I change my mind, bring shim back! Justice for Justice!
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>>97233897
>Originally it ws just mtg Mulan, asian woman dresses up as a guy to be a soldier.
No, it wasn't. Alesha was always a transwoman, they made a big deal about it when Fate Reforged came out.
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Regarding fakes, how soon do fakes come out? Do I need to be worried for cards which have come out in the last month or week?
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>>97233641
I find the readability argument to be immensely funny given the current state of card design. Before you would be picking up a card to look at it's one or two effects or a keyword. Now you still have to pick up a card because you can't afford to miss one of it's 4 keywords and 5 different effects or you might have to flip it over to read it's other 4 effects.
Also one day these captchas are going to give me a stroke.
>find the odd one out between 3 things all of which have varying and differing details that could possibly make them the odd one out duhhh
Bravo.
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>>97233925
They had a dedicated story to show an orc chud mocking Alesha for being a FAGGOT and then being saved by xer and repenting for being an INCEL CHUD, but then years later the head writer said there is no such thing as homophobia in the multiverse so the canonicity is in debate.
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>>97233940
>Now you still have to pick up a card
The game has gotten to the point where everything is so fucking bloated, you just don't bother picking up cards anymore.
Your opponent is playing solitaire. Randomly on one of their turns, they will declare they have won the game, and you won't know why so you ask and they go "Yeah my uhhhh dude is a 30/30 with flying now and uhhh duhhh I bounced all your stuff and also drew 20 cards and uhhh..." so you just shrug and accept it.

I ain't reading that fucking shit. It's tiresome enough tor read all the fucking novel-length textboxes in MY OWN deck.
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>>97233931
The general production time for fakes is about ~1 month after a set's official release. This is a guideline and not a rule; sometimes the first things showcased get produced in advance, such as Bitterbloom Bearer or retro Snapcaster. If there is a specific card you're concerned about post it and I'll tell you what I know.
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>>97233955
Thanks bro. Dunno why you posted that pic too but cool.
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>>97232852
They don't print hosers because its effects are either great against or terrible depending on the deck they face never in between.



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