Previous: >>97245474>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>TQDo you make deals with people at the table? Do you ever break your deals? Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?
>>97250009>TQIn my pod of retards my deal making is basically."Hey guys, don't do x until your next turn."Then they don't, listen and get ass mad when all the shit they just played got lost as collateral damage as I dropped a farewell to deal with the guy who's in the lead.
>>97250009No. I explain to them why it's in their best interest to work with me to eliminate a specific threat to both of us. If they disagree then I let them do what they're gonna do, I don't know what's in their hand or deck so I might be wrong. Or they might just be hedging the in-lead player's luck differently than I do, both are valid and there's no point arguing over it. People who beg "PLEASE DON'T ATTACK ME IF YOU DON'T I WON'T ATTACK YOU FOR TWO WHOLE TURNS" are pathetic children.
Fourty (40) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
>tq>Do you make deals with people at the table?I dont expect other players to bail me out and Im not doing you favors that are going to cost me the game in three turns>Do you ever break your deals?if a card doesnt say to do it then it doesnt have to be done>Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?Did a group hug deck forever ago that was basically choosing whose getting first, since then the closest I came was a few pillow fort decks. Its not that fun for meIts a casual format that almost never has any stakes besides how much fun you can have in a round, why do you people feel like you need to whine your way to victory?
>>97250009>TQNo.No.I technically have a group hug deck but I only play it with people I think have extremely weak mentality or people I haven't played with before.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97250009I won't necessarily make "deals," but I will try to nudge players. If someone has a somewhat scary board and I have an answer it isn't 100% correct to use, I might ask "Who are you swinging at on your turn?" or hold them up before combat with that question.If they say they're coming at me, or if they're cagey they give themselves away and I use my answer. Otherwise we have a mutual understanding and I can hold off on their board.
>>97250009>Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?Does this count? I've heard it described as group slug by some people and politics by others. I don't care how people describe it, I just want to goad shit until I can win with Insurrection or Rise of the Dark Realms
>>97250009>Do you make deals with people at the table?No, but I do tend to verbally identify what I consider to be the largest threat to the table as a whole and the pieces that are making them so. Including--and especially--when it's me. There's nothing less satisfying than a game decided by poor threat assessment.
>>97250009Picrel is hilarious with him
>>97250118Strange, i wouldnt classify it as either group slug or politics.
>TQ>Do you make deals with people at the table?it really depends on the person, i play always with random people and normally avoid making deals because my main goal is obviously to win and eventually ill have to take the person i just did the deal with down.>Do you ever break your deals?because of the above statement, and given the mental stability of your normal EDH player, breaking deals means the player is just "lied" to will for the next six months hunt me down every time we sit on the same table. in short, i tend not to break them and i avoid making them in the first place.>Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?no
>>97250009>>TQ>Do you make deals with people at the table?I don't play at tables that do this.Diplomacy is a new player myth. Ultimately unless you're doing a show for entertainment, people are going to do whatever is best for them. More than likely a player you need to make a deal with just has a powerhouse deck that doesn't rely on your promises to win, so it's useless
>>97250009>Do you make deals with people at the table? Do you ever break your deals? Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?Yes. Rarely. No I don't. I have a few decks like Darien, Xyris and Gisela that encourage people to attack others, or let me attack them.
>>97250009>Do you make deals with people at the table?Typically no, but if I can kill someone at instant speed (for example, with pic rel with my zombie deck) I'll warn them that if they attack me, they'll lose>Do you ever break your deals?Never, scum behavior from scum people.>Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?No, sounds cringe as fuck. I play Magic to play Magic, not act like some fucking diplomatic ambassador
i tried anons, ive really tried.but i gotta run this card on every deck that has green in it, i cant be more straightforward than that.
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>>97250009>tqYes, of course.
>>97250211Honestly, based. I wholeheartedly support anyone running any of the Portal legendaries
>>97250211do you put things like dowsing dagger to give X guy 1/1s and to help convince people not to fuck you over?
>>97250211wtfthose ching chong cards are expensive af thoand the vast majority are bad like hell, is it a collectors thing?
>>97250222No I don't>>97250240They're cool and based. Also best way to build mono R control (at least years ago when I built her)>>97250213I have a Japanese and English copy I run together it's kino
>>97250009>Hey bud, I'm casting pic related on you.>Why me? I haven't done anything to you!>Read the card. bro, and he does>"I see">Gets to his turn>I full swing at anon>Why though?>You targeted me.Took it out of my deck since. Haven't tried to do anything politics or diplomacy ever since..
Why are players so bad
>>97250373New players are being raised on commander and cards that simply ask nothing of them and all the boomers quit so now you just have a bunch of dummies playing this game.
>>97250362wotc been trying this diplomacy stuff for a while.either their not doing it correctly or the player base just doesn’t care
>>97250423It's got nothing to do with the common format, players have been bad for much longer than they've been on Commander>t. playing since the formats were Type 1 and Type 2
>Do you make deals with people at the table? I never propose any, though I will listen to good ones.>Do you ever break your deals? No, I'm a white player
there are too many neat effects on different cards to keep adding to my decks without it turning into an unplayable mess of neat effects. no, I'm not building a new one
>>97250424They either don't care, or are genuinely too stupid to understand what the card actually does.
>>97250471wasn’t specifically talking about that card, but the general direction of wotc regarding diplomacy.i feel the game has many avenues to take in that regard to make a game fun and enjoyable
>>97250362This is the kind of shit that I’d attack into to get it off the board because there’s a 90% chance their deck wins without ever attacking, so I’d just be giving them more opportunities to draw into their combo without gaining a comparative advantage myself.
>>97250471people are retarded, I play breena and everyone attacks me "you're forcing attacks you gotta die" meanwhile the rhystic player is sitting pretty
>>97250547Spotted the retard
Proxying and custom alts are the only way to still have fun with this game.
Coolscape Familiar1BWhite spells and green spells you cast cost {1} less to cast.1/1
>>97250669Please go find another hobby
>>97250547agreeable.>>97250612so you found a mirror ?>>97250669well at least you can get the art you like>>97250706worse type of gatekeeping.-pathetic
>>97250806xe cute
>>97250806> I dont have fun playing the game> do something else please> wtf gatekeeping!!!
>>97250806Desperate-to-fight retardkun frothing this early into a thread.
I cast changeling outcast your go
>>97250865>>97250865hey bro - !that comes into play tapped .
>>97250865I stand up and piss on your shitty proxy at instant speed
>>97250865Good thing I didn't take this out of my deck like I've told myself every game night I would for the last year.
>>97250944>44- pic related is like a mirror, i hope that isnt too deep for you
>>97250967Why do you format your posts like a retard?
>>97250967But retard-kun, putting proxies on the board is like shitting on the boadd
Shitty mail bag I should have gotten before Christmas but a plowtruck destroyed my mailbox
>>97251027Your male hole got plowed??
>>97250213I have a Xiahou Dun (judge poorfag version) , Cao Cao and Dong Zhou. Only Xiahou is a commander, should I make a deck for the other two?
>>97250211Why wouldn't your opponent just destroy Diaochan?
>>97251050I wish. I'm so lonely
>>97251074Ooof Im sorry anon.
>>97251053Good question
with capwotc having pulled this lair, theres no guarantee we will get vaevictis nergigante. but we do have a wotc approved look we could proxy up if they end up changing it.I need to build a deck around vae. Jund group (t)hug?
>>97251053Removing commanders isnt allowed. You have to let me do the thing. Its the rules.
>>97251106... there is a zone for that ...
>>97250009>tqThe closest I would come to this is spreading things like Ms. Bumbleflower cards or Umbris exile triggers around. I guess I also try not dog pile players who are behind. "Deals" and pretending you're some scheming courtier mastermind is fucking gay.
>>97251126- this fugger thinks he is sneaky...almost got them all
I don't make deals, simple as.
>>97250967These cunts better have some pigeons lined up for Strixhaven. Sick of owls and cranes for bird people
How bad is she, i was thinking of building her since 14 is my favorite FF.
>>97251179Shes good but incredibly boring. I'm sorry about your shit taste
>>97251179her alt art is fucking outrageously awesome.- tried to make a deck with the restriction of FF cards only and it kinda durdles, with no real wincon.
>>97251179like the other anon said, she is good, but its very hard not to build her the same as everyone else would. her precon being so random in what it wanted to do did showcase all the potential she had, and made the precon seem weaker than it actually was, which let me run away with several wins before my pod realized yshtola was cunt that couldnt be allowed to stick for long.
>>97251179She's kill on sight
>>97250009>Do you make deals with people at the table? Do you ever break your deals? Do you have a 'diplomancy' deck?I play this identically to 1 v1 60 card. Why would you play commander differently?
>>97251228>>97251203>>97251181Do you guys have a list for her and would you recommend building her from scratch or build the precon and some upgrades?
>>97250806>worse type of gatekeeping.It is the only type of gatekeeping
>>97251237I just use the precon since Im a giant ffxiv mark, but you should absolutely build from scratch if you are set on her as the commander. the precon is fun and stronger than you'd think, but it sure as fuck durdles and gets stomped if yshtola cant stay on board.
>>97251169Your pigeon, sir
>>97251237The card tells you what it wants you to do, build it yourself.
>>97251247as we knowPigeons did not exist until the forming of modern cities.
>>97251247No. I want a fantasy pigeon person you dumb piggy
>>97251259>fantasy pigeonlol
I actually kind of want to run that little guy in pauper
>>97250669based
>>97251237
>>97251259>fantasy pigeon
I love Edgar Markov so much. I built a deck that allows me to act like a bored king and still have a chance to win.Pod isn't degenerate? I'll just used my tutors to grab some cool vampires and swing out at people. Maybe steal a commander if I'm feeling cheeky.Pod is degenerate? Guess I can ad nauseum up a combo. And steal their commander. And go infinite.Pod has a timmy? Me too! I'll just keep dragging tokens, play wishclaw and politics a bit to give the pre-con player a chance to do something cool. I'll still win though, probably. And if I don't I die like any lord should: of hubris.Of course, I still end up losing to Blue, but that's just life.
>>97251237You can only possibly make one deck type with any commander
>>97251285zzzzZZZZZzzzzz
>>97250669I don't like custom alts too much, but it is nice to be able to have a land base for all of my decks that aren't all taplands. Enjoyment went up considerably since the chinamen sent over ever land I could want for $50.
>Lairs aren't listedWhat the fuck are scryfall taggers even doing? They have one job.
>>97251324holy fit in pill!
>>97251324>>>/pol/
why are jannies getting so touchy over racism lately, its the only thing that gets them to do anything anymore.
>>97251371because people get irritated by you doing it and actively report you for it to get it deleted.
>>97251371try mentioning the vax(they are fatigued in their own way)
>>97251378oh no, anon. i didnt make that post, i reported it. its just funny that only racism gets them moving. flood, spam, trolling, namefagging, off topic.none of that shit will ever be touched, but all it takes is someone to use brown as a slur and whoops
>>97251320Neither are triomes. That's because only those 10 lands are called trilands. It's like if you searched is:fetchland. You wouldn't get cards like Evolving Wilds and Fabled Passage, as they are not called fetchlands.
>>97251395>namefaggingThis is within the rules btw
>>97251371It's against the rules tbqh. Can usually get around it wihtou the n-word. Off-topic bans and deletions are way more all over the place and obviously subjective.
>>97251395also this board is blue ...>>97251407>obviously subjective.also this
>>97251404The tag isn't "triome" it's "triland". Triland should show *every* land that can tap for 3 mana, because that's what the term means.
>>97251411You're searching on the wrong scryfall
>>97251395>name faggingNot against any rule>flood/spammingWhat you mean is once a thread you see some image or line you dislike. SPAMMING and FLOODING are when I make 50 posts of the same message and post them every minute over and over.>off topicFull offtopic tends to get deleted if it goes on long. Shit like people breaking off to discuss some FF shit is just the natural consequence of another IP being introduced.And all of that stuff actually involves magic rather than just being dumping of /pol/ posts.
What card do you want stapled onto the next pushed commander? A keyword or two and another line that includes "draw a card" are a given.
>>97251421Never really thought of it
>>97251416Okay yeah I'm an idiot and thought I was doing the fucking otag... goddammit.
>>97251421tripled landfall triggers.
>>97251421
>>97251421Obviously.
>>97251421An artifact+creature sac outlet with card advantage. Just powercreep Yawgmoth as 3+ color slop
>>97251421>>97251446Necromancy must be the easiest fucking school of magic to learn when skeleton anon is this easy to summon
>>97251421>What card do you want stapled onto the next pushed commander? A keyword or two and another line that includes "draw a card" are a given.Whenever a land is destroyed by an effect you control, draw a card
>>97251461Dear god I didn't know just how badly I wanted this until just now. What colors would it be? Red/white at the least, of course
>>97251468jund.
>>97251421Why is this so much money?
Racists are the most persecuted people
>>97251461Mardu missing an MLD commander is actually criminal. Could have it be whenever a land leaves the battlefield do X and an activated ability that returns a land to your hand and does Y. Land stuff has become too exclusive to green.
>>97250009>TQno, i enjoy being the threat and playing archenemy. politics and deal making is for shitters who didn't cut their teeth in a 60 card format and can't build good decks or play well. If a fag tries to "make a deal" with me I will go back on it the moment it's advantageous for me.
>>97251475>https://mtg.wiki/page/Reserved_List
>>97251421absolutely hate how they sloppyfied the otherwise cool archetype of land sacrificing, especially with the new stuff from the EoE precon. used to be very exciting all or nothing/do or die gameplay, now its all fucking gravy
>>97251475Reserved list+a string of landsac support last few years
>>97251421Temur Colorhacking. Add in Red and Blue Elemental Blast for hilarity.
>>97251489Dimir hands typed this post
>>97251498Thoughtslop
>>97251502I hope this nigga gets a reprint in nu lorwyn
>>97251508Funny enough I've never built a dimir deck. Rakdos and izzet are just too much fun.
>>97251509here is your hard earned (Slop)
>>97251482
>>97251502I hope his hot white wife gets unbanned over fagtime
>>97251179I hate that we got a cute catgirl commander and she's a boring pillowfort OP draw engine. You don't even need to build around her second ability, just slap protection on her and a few drain effects and sit there drawing cards each turn.
>>97251482A racist is president in my country THOUGH
>>97251635This didn't happen btw
>>97251635dont forget he's a faggot pedo too.
>>97251651No, wrong country. This racist is a based hagfucker.
