>Everyone points out that "Le demons are not evil" was a huge trend>Can barely remember any media that doesnt' have not-evil, not-succubus demons>The first that came to mind was devilman and they are still dicks thereWhat is with this weird fauxtrarian bullshit
Demons are the incarnation of evil
>>97257459Yeah that's the point, hell in dorohedoro they are still assholes even if they aren't generic bad guys.I think that Zoomers in general really want to come off as unique but don't have any actual critical thinking skills to actually come to their own conclusions on life, so they just go on r/topcharactertropes, xitter, instagram or youtube for their opinions
>>97257447So you missed the recent Devil May Cry show where they're literally middle-eastern immigrants, a bunch of other anime not named Frieren, including no less than three anime shows where the so called Demonlord is a pretty swell guy/girl, the entire Overlord series of videogames and that's just examples where Demons/Devils as a species are defined as nonevil or not intrinsically evil, not the absolute pile of other games, settings and modules where misunderstood or good individual demons or devils exist, or where ontological divides between evil and good outsiders don't actually exist.I have to ask OP; what the fuck else have you forgotten or did you just not look?
>>97257521>>97257474Most people see demons are horrifyingly evil if retard Zoomers don't that's another thing to add on them being weird on top of a lot of them acting like they were molested as children
>>97257521I don't consume garbage. Maybe that is the issue
>>97257541Frieren does it right. Demons are irredeemable.
>>97257447Did you ever play descent into averness? There's a neutral demon in the opening crawl through eltarel. There's a few good to neutral hags around too, and the devils at the spawning pits are very amicable. Thats all just one campaignYou do... play games, right?
>>97257447You’re not looking at Normie media. Theres a ton of shows for women about Demons. Lucifer. That one with David Tennant. On and on.
>>97257546I don't play 5e, I play 3.5
>>97257447Most media adheres to demons being, generally, pieces of shit with a few exceptions here and there, but some people (autists, political zealots, and autistic political zealots) cannot stand that these exceptions exist at all.
>>97257521Japanese media is always going to take a different angle when they aren't a christian nation and "demon lord" is basically short hand for generic bad guy whether he has anything to do with christian demons or hell, and a million things have parodied and messed around with that archetype specifically.What you're more looking for is your Dogma or Constantine, your more basic "wot if demons wasn't so bad and angels wasn't so good?" stuff that's basically lost what little teeth it had as christianity has faded into a paper tiger.
I don’t enjoy it when demons are literally just evil red guys or whatever. People are the demons, when they act in certain ways. It’s closer to the root of the word anyways.
>>97257447One of the most classic examples in D&D is Fall-From-Grace in Planescape.>>97257547I will argue until I am blue in the face that Lucifer would've been a better show if it only strongly implied he was the devil.
>>97257521“Majin” and demon do not carry the same connotations.
>>97257569I kind of appreciate that Lucifer went as absolutely as insane as it did. No where near the comic it is based on, but for a show that starts out as a police procedural where the Devil solves mysteries with an attractive police detective, it sure does go some fucking places.
>>97257447>can barely remember warhammer turn in your nerd card
>>97257564Its hardly that; it's that a lot of media producers recently have been wearing their pet political projects on their sleeves and all got neutered at the same time when their cannibalistic cultural Oroboros decided that any bad guy that wasn't a stand in for the current administration pretending to be the good guys wasn't an acceptable target. We can't have orcs or goblins because orcs are a minority, and they're happy to tell you which minority. We can't have demons or devils because an intrinsically evil race is a dogwhistle for immigrants, or the homeless or some other pet unfortunate that they're going to save by eliminating anything mildly resembling them in their comfortable luxury game spaces. We can't fight slavers because they'd have slaves and if they have slaves, the poor ignorant players won't be able to help themselves from taking part in simulated human trafficking.It's barely a religious phenomena if it is at all. Every good guy has to be a band of racially and spiritually diverse guerillas up against a colonial or imperial oppressor, or an equally wrongthinking black-hearted tyrant-- who can't have thinking or feeling minions because it would complicate the ethics.
>>97257558trvth nvke
>>97257582That's a lot of words to say>I'm a fuckin' retard.
>>97257605If you can't read it, ask your fucking caretaker to help you break down the larger words.Outing yourself as an imbecile is an interesting debate strategy, I can't say I've ever seen it be terribly successful.
>>97257582trvth nvke
>>97257582Your rant is not founded in any reality. After all, The Conjuring movies still rake in the big bucks and they're all about scary and evil demons fucking with people. In regards to tabletop gaming, most of the popular tabletop games feature demons/devils being scary and evil. D&D, Pathfinder, Warhammer 40k and Fantasy, Shadowrun, Daggerheart, and so on.
>>97257447Tieflings? Devil May Cry? Helltaker? Honestly OP, you're exactly the kind of guy that Smiling Friends would make fun of. Stop posting.
>>97257606>N-no, i'm not a retard, you're a retard!Wow, truly you are a master of rhetoric.
>>97257621You got any more gifs from ongoing comedy animations to back up your bullshit digression into the horror movie genre? Or is this a contest in disingenuity? >>97257627What, you start dishing it and now you're crying it's unfair that you get a slice too? Shall I also quote you as a stuttering moron or can we skip right to the end where you storm off after calling me some ironic slur?
>>97257630lol this mf hates comedy.
>>97257632Disingenuity it is then.
>>97257621>Pathfinder, Shadowrun, DaggerheartThese three are also even to me are obnoxiously "woke". So it's not even really a political thing, it's a fake contrarian thing. A punk rocker who wants to rebel against the system but ends up conforming type of situation but none of these zoomers even realize the irony
>>97257630>Durr hurr durr durr HURR DURR HURR!
>>97257521>Tranime Irrelevant.
>>97257623>TieflingsThey're not even actual fiends, so strike one.>Devil May CryThey're the primary enemy so strike two.>HelltakerIt's literally stated that demons cannot be redeemed in that show. Strike three, you're out.
>>97257787Helltaker is the anime femoids in suit game.
>>97257528>on top of a lot of them acting like they were molested as children>meanwhile, in 2004>GUYS I'M A NURSE FOR A TRIPLE AMPUTEE BUT SHE'S AN ARYAN PRINCESS HOW DO I GROOM HER???Can't think how that happened.
