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Starting Anew Edition
aaah happy new year sub-edition
>Previous
>>97258877
>Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0
>Mediafire
https://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD
>Mega I
https://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw
>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)
https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ
>WoD5 Mega
https://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA
>STV content folders
https://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ
>General Creation Kit
https://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw
>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoD
http://167.99.155.149/
>Anders Mage Page
http://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/
>White Wolf Wiki:
https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

>Thread Question
Have you made any special chronicles for a holiday theme (Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years)?
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Happy New Year guys.
>>97272368
>TQ
Our current story is set at a Halloween festival. We’re resuming in a couple weeks
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>turning someone into your ghoul requires a blood bond that rewires the brain chemistry of the ghouled individual and turns them from an independent person who has their own thoughts and feelings into a co-dependent sycophant with an undying love for you
How is blood bonding a human and making them your ghoul not a Humanity 3 sin, if not a Humanity 2 sin? This shit is fucking horrifying.
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>>97272378
Happy new years to you as well anon.
>>97272436
To be fair they get superpowers and immortality.
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I watched Welcome to Derry and I'm considering a Hunter chronicle where they come to the city and decide to capture and kill IT. Would it be a doable endeavor or should I have it end in a tragic note with them having to flee?
>>97272411
>Our current story is set at a Halloween festival. We’re resuming in a couple weeks
Is it a vampire game?
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>>97272447
Also how would you scale IT and what splat would fit it best? A Deviant? High level spirit?
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>>97272447
Nah, Werewolf
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>>97272444
>To be fair they get superpowers and immortality.
Is that worth being mentally transformed into the ideal slave by the blood bond, the ideal slave of vampires who are not particularly known for looking after their ghouls? Is there any clan with a reputation of treating their ghouls with anything approaching equal treatment, and not like a slave caste?
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>>97272436
Because it can wear off
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Nanny McPhee seems like an interesting concept for a Mage how can I pull of the Ugly becoming beautiful schtick when teaching lessons?
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>>97272475
Well, most people would take that trade. Especially if you ask a normie, slavery but the cool paranormal one is probably something they'd like if it came with super powers instead of just manual labor. Yeah, most ghouls are kind of treated like shit except for I suppose high value Ventrue/Toreador/Nosferatu ghouls. Tzimisce Revenant families and I suppose Salubri are also treated well. Maybe Sabbat Brujah?
Bigger question is whether you'd rather be kinfolk or a poorly treated ghoul.
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That Gravity Falls Hunter/Changeling game sounds cool, wonder how that one's going to plan out. Guessing Fae bullshit primarily?
>>97272447
It would be pretty crazy stuff for a hunter group. Maybe high level Fomori?
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>>97272447
Could see Pennywise as an Idigam.
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>>97272436
because the Beast hates any relationship
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>>97272545
>Would you rather be mentally transformed into an eager slave who is compelled to devote their life to their blood-sucking master without any regard for their former priorities, with the bonus of being a slave who doesn't age and has superpowers, or would you rather be born into the lower caste of a cult that seeks to prevent a very real and literal apocalypse, which might involve you being disrespected and/or injured by the supernaturally angry higher caste of the cult, potentially including your family?
Honestly? I'd rather be born into an objectively righteous cause and know that I'm contributing to my family and loved ones, even if I'm lesser than them, than be mind-fucked into abandoning much of my previous identity so that I can adore and orbit a self-interested vampire and serve as their eager slave instead, no matter the bonus superpowers and lack of aging.
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>>97272687
>Objectively righteous cause
>He doesn't know
>Ignores the part where you're basically a breeder/stress relief for the relatively violence-prone higher caste members (depending on tribe)
Fair perspective though, at least Kinfolk are morally more correct compared to the often self-interested ghouls. I'm still not sure I'd go along with it if I had to roll the dice on the sept/tribe you'd be born into.
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>>97272829
I mean, you'd need to do a lot of mental gymnastics to claim that stopping the Wyrm from destroying the world and defiling the human spirit isn't an objectively righteous cause, even if the Garou frequently fuck it up, and the idea that most Kinfolk are chained in the rape dungeon and do nothing but wait for their nightly raping by the next Garou in line for a turn is silly. Most of a Kinfolk's life involves making themselves useful to the Garou and the cause in other ways and while it can be thankless and sometimes abuse is involved, there's still the family bond and the whole literally-saving-the-world motivation.

I'd still take infrequent rough sex of dubious consent with a monster over the ego-killing mind-rape of the blood bond.
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if demons inherit some of their vessel's personality, does this extend to the vessel's fetishes? If, say, a demon of House Namaru ended up in the body of a submissive femboy, would the "righteous leader and herald of god" personality overpower the desire to be plowed harder than farm soil in spring? This is very important, I need my erotic Demon: the Fallen fan fiction to be accurate.
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>>97272880
Though I agree a Kinfolk has it better overall, I'd still think for the most part a ghoul has it better in some ways. Even Blood-bonded ghouls still have families and often have jobs or hobbies, though it all takes a backseat to their master they still have to maintain the masquerade unless they get unlucky with a retarded vamp. Half of the time Kinfolk seem to be lucky to see their children, though conversely often enough Kinfolk don't actually need to interact with Garou at all if they're lucky. At the same time, most septs let you leave as a Kinfolk if you marry out of the nation unless you're unlucky to get one with population issues or Garou-brained conservative values.
Despite that, I'd say Revenant families > Kinfolk if you're willing to deal with being a Tzimisce's eventual butler/childe or a strict upbringing.
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>>97272923
Based, good luck anon.
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>>97272687
>mind-fucked into abandoning much of my previous identity so that I can adore and orbit a self-interested vampire and serve as their eager slave
That sounds kind of hot
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>>97272998
You seem like a person who would enjoy Metamorphosis.
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Hey, /tg/. I'm working on a concept for a thaumaturgist blood sorcerer. The biggest problem with this is that hermetic sorcery is big on True Names as a way to cut down on necessary reagents. When you have the True Name for something like unicorn horn, for example, you don't have to go look it up again.You can just commit it to a sigil and codify it as a pattern to invoke for further sorcery and it's as though you always had it there.

The problem here is there's no bonafide system in Thaumaturgy for mechanics to acquire True Names (this is for the V:tM system, not Mage, which could more easily spitball it.

I've been pondering a custom path of thaumaturgy for such a thing, but I'm not 100% on it. I'm thinking perhaps that the Path involved should be either Spirit Thaumaturgy, or perhaps Dur-An-Ki's Path of Suliman's Laws (Spirit Manipulation) and treating levels of that path as the levels of Rites that can be made to take the True Names of more potent and powerful spirits?

What do you think, /tg/? How would you make mechanics for a vampire blood sorcerer of hermetic thaumaturgy, (but not necessarily TREMERE) to take and catalogue True Names?
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>>97272687
This but you forgot the part where I become a drone to better serve mom.
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>>97272984
>Based, good luck anon.
Thank you; hopefully it will pan out and not crash and burn like our last one did.
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>>97273133
Why not combine the two?
>>97273229
>Serving mom
>Instead of getting rough sex from Garou
Poor taste. Mom doesn't want what's best for you she just wants a break
Neither do the Garou, but hey what can you do
>>97273255
You can use a flamethrower, or if you're something of a wizard magic.
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>>97272967
Most Kinfolk are allowed to raise their children in peace, it's not like the Garou run indoctrination daycare camps for Kinfolk kids. The only time that they don't get to see them is after the lucky ones become Garou, then they'll be spending a lot more time with other werewolves.
90% of being a Kinfolk is just living an ordinary life, but you're morally obligated to let a relative demand things of you and mooch off of you because they're quite literally fighting to save the world. As the Kinfolk are ten times more populous than the Garou and Garou are mostly monogamous, only 10% of Kinfolk need to worry about Garou sex issues. There are some more involved Kinfolk who contribute more and some more talented Kinfolk who perform vital functions for their tribe, but it's typically just a case of performing favours for a distant relative whenever they show up. It's often thankless and can come with emotional and physical abuse, especially if their rage is triggered, but most Kinfolk can get away with living relatively normal lives.

Being born a revenant shares some of the downsides of being Kinfolk, actually. They're born into families that are beholden to demanding supernatural masters with anger issues except this time, without the saving-the-world justification. The slow aging and access to disciplines is neat, but I'm not sure it's worth being born as a vampire's serf.
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>>97273267
What happened to your last WoD game? Anyway got a break down on the potential characters yet?
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>>97273284
A Vampire's rich serf, rather. Sure, eventually you'll either get into an arranged marriage for more Revenants or you'll be made to serve some edgelord in a castle/manor though Vampires don't come by demanding scraps and housing 99% of the time.
I'd say Kinain maybe is the best of all the subsplats if you're willing to put up with a family member trolling you every now and then.
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>>97273280
>GAYan propaganda slandering mom again
Ummmm sweetie? Mom is the one helping humanity (spiderbitches btfo by a stepchild lmao). Also, cybersex through OneSong.
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>>97273280
Because it'd be like combining your Windows and Apple computer in the early 90s. They're entirely different sorcerous methods and paths.

However, Thaumaturgy operates a bit like Javascript, in that it can emulate things other sorcerous style do, it just needs an example to run off. This is, arguably, where Spirit Thaumaturgy came from in the first place.

Dur-An-Ki isn't arcane and secular, it comes from altered states of consciousness where you ascend upwards into a mental realm and contact a host of powerful entities that have already had relationships with humanity and vampire people since culture was culture. It's also not really known well outside the middle east. Thaumaturgy does not develop that way, but can derive new paths inside Thaumaturgy from ideas of other kinds of blood sorcery.

But, even Dur-An-Ki does not really deal with True Names and there's still no coherent, specific True Name Path, or ritual. It's just sort of handwaved. Even though it DOES validate expensive, rare, exotic reagents can be relegated to True Names for spells.
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>>97273290
>What happened to your last WoD game?
A ST so focused on making the players happy that he neglects what HE wants.
So we had a mixed-splat CoD campaign which ran for somewhere between 90 and 100 sessions; but because everyone was a different thing, people were hesitant to dive too deep into "their world" as they felt it was taking away from group time. So we discussed and finally decided to keep the same setting but do new characters who were all the same splat, and we settled on CtL. The ST went all-out and created almost 100 NPCs with histories, personalities, and relationships. And then the chronicle starts, and everyone was having so much fun hanging around the freehold that they didn't want to go out and do what the chronicle was about. My ST, bless his heart, tried to roll with it; but he wanted to mystery stories about things that go bump in the night, not run an entire campaign based on gossip and petty politicking. And so it kinda fizzled out after about four sessions.
>Anyway got a break down on the potential characters yet?
I settled on Kitsune and we've got a pretty firm commitment to a Mokole and a Corax. I don't think the others have 100% settled; but last I heard it was a Bastet, a Ratfolk, and an Ananasi.
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>>97273524
>Mokole and Ratfolk PCs
Human civilization may never return to whatever godforsaken town you crawl into.
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>>97273599
>Human civilization may never return to whatever godforsaken town you crawl into.
My impression is that it was pretty thoroughly screwed long before we're gonna show up.
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>>97272107
>What's the story on that so far?
Year is 1891, London. The Lost of London are balkanized into a bunch of independent freeholds, drawn largely on class lines. The Courts are barely holding everything together. We're a trio of relatively recent escapees (a few years ago on average), so far, we've been investigating missing Lost. Turns out a Loyalist has been waging an almost guerilla war. Some of the missing Lost were killed, others kidnapped, some not even by the Loyalists directly. He manipulated some Hobs into capturing sane Changelings and throwing them in the Hedge Asylum for very low clarity Changelings the Autumn Court have set up. He just wanted to take as many of us out of the game as possible, almost certainly just to soften us up. We learned that last part after we interrogated him after beating his ass. We also learned his keeper is "The Oracle Queen", and all her Changelings are styled after Tarot. We're hoping to have the loyalist publicly executed to unite the disparate freeholds.
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>>97273655
Damn pretty cool.
>>97273652
I suppose Fera and Fera players would think that.
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>>97273082
The book, the road, or the doujin?
Doujin's hot, book is ok, and I don't like the tzimisce that much, much more of a Setite "destroy yourself to escape your own false shackles" kind of guy.
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>>97273845
I had meant the doujin yes. Though frankly, I suppose all three also.



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