Conquest of the New World Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous thread: >>97274077>TQ: Which squatted unit, character (or character option) would you like to see return to Warhammer TOW?
>>97289363Savage orcs
>>97289265 #Yeah you gonna use some names characters?So you don't have to think up your own stories?Does that make your widdle head hurt? Do you love it when Games Workshop puts their big strong ideas in your Narrative Game?Are you going to get the new Arcane Journal? I saw on the Warhammer Community article its got a whole heap of new Official rules for your next slow grow narrative campaign to help you purchase your new army for 2026!God I wanna see the look in your eyes when 2nd edition comes out and you get the opportunity to buy Thematic and Narrative terrain for each army I bet you'll buy two you good little wargamer you.Gonna buy the new starter set for daddy? Gonna buy two so you can give a friend one and get them into the hobby too? Yeah? Gonna take them to your local store and order web exclusives from in store at full retail price? Fuck yes buy it all you little wallet slut
Posted a different pic of this the other day, but fixed the skull and some other small details. What have you been working on over the Xmas Taint anon?
>>97289372Not only did you write this out, not only did you post it twice, but you also completely misunderstood why the op posted malagor to begin with you absolute retard
>>97289363>not sic semper tyrannosaurus
>>97289372sperg
What are some good models for trolls ?
>>97289448Literally all of them are amazing.
>>97289363>>TQ: Which squatted unit, character (or character option) would you like to see return to Warhammer TOW?Not really something that has existed before as no named characters but it would be cool to have Warped Chieftains for beastmen so you can have a mutated warherd, possibly making spawns and warped gors core choices
>TQ>in b4 everyone says "lEgAcY fAcTiOnS"it's not gonna happen lads
>>97289450Gw models? Seems hard to get, any good alternatives ?
>>97289464https://community.the-ninth-age.com/lexicon/entry/1468-miniatures-trolls/
I've tried to upscale the the Ice Magic icon (left being the original), since it's the only instance I've seen it fully coloured. Iyo how does right look?
>>97289448>plastic stone trolls>plastic river trolls>oldschool stone trolls>satyr art hill trolls>avatar of war stone trolls>knightmare miniatures trolls>artisan guild trolls>trish carden river troll hag>durgin paint studio forest troll >harrowhyrst trolls>sandstorm miniatures trolls>oldschool miniatures trolls
>>97289418Insane fumble actually
>>97289375Looks very good anon!
>>97289363>>TQ: Which squatted unit, character (or character option) would you like to see return to Warhammer TOW?gw should bring back the options for the stanks
WIP warlock
>>97289650And Skweel
>>97289478there's always the total war version but we know that Kislev doesn't use that symbol in TOW
>>97289372Poor
First unit for either old world or renaissance.Next goblins or trolls
>>97289690Looks great, how did you do the skin I really like it.
>>97289690Go with trolls, you will get bogged down in hordes of goblins.
>>97289667>there's always the total war versionOh yeah. CA did use the symbol for Katarin's Ice Court faction. They could still use it in TOW for their ice maidens though, since it's supposed to symbolise the 'Lore of Ice' rather than a personal heraldry.
finished my converted orc doom divers. very happy with them.for anyone curious, i'm lucky enough that my brother has a 3d printer and he printed out the catapult and the sling for me, but i kitbashed everything else. all the bodies are from 40k orks, most from the generic boyz kit but a couple are leftover bikers (the orc bullies). the bullies have a chain weapon from the ork bikers and a whip from a runtherd. all the legs and choppas are from the fantasy boyz mob, all the sitting legs are actually the boar rider champion option and the others are just normal boyz bits. i used twine and greenstuff to make the rope and hook, the greenstuff work is pretty shithouse but it looks okay painted up. now i am aware the crew are not on the correct base sizes, however i am not a WAACfag and i'm sure it won't be an issue when i play with mates and let them know in advance.
>>97289727this is just the crew on their own if anyone wanted to see them a bit closer
>>97289727>>97289728Looking good Orcbro
>>97289732thanks matenow i've got 50 double choppa boys to paint...
>>97289734You can do it bro, I feel the same when looking at my gors and ungors, so many left to paint, but if I do a couple every few days soon they will all be done.
>>97289721maybe we should consider expanding the spectrum of magic winds>wind of light / wind of shadow>wind of life / wind of death>wind of fire / (wind of water)>wind of heaven / (wind of earth)>wind of metal / wind of beast >(wind of body) / (wind of mind)
Questions about the walls and fences : apart from bretonnians, cathayans and imperials, which factions could "use" them, as putting them on a specific board?Like the fences wouldn't work for a tomb king board for exemple
>>97289799The best thing would be to make your own if you want some for a TK board
>>97289823would you say a greenskin badland board could use the fences? As for the stone walls, maybe the dwarfs?
>>97289363>*bwong*
>>97289832>would you say a greenskin badland board could use the fences?Sure, perhaps there has once been a settlement there, or remnants of a road, and the fences/walls along with a few ruins is all that's left.Just be creative.
>>97289363>TQ I don't know why HE/DE can't have their old characters now, I would imagine most of them are already alive by the time TOW is supposed to take place. Mostly because I have few DE models and Lokhir, I adore his model and am tempted to develop them into full army eventually.Marked Gors would be nice to have back too.
>>97289799>Like the fences wouldn't work for a tomb king board for exemple
>>97289782too much orang, mang
>>97289852gw doesn't want to flood the game with too many special characters, immortal factions would have a disproportionate amount of them, and gw also wants to try establishing and selling some new characters, and if there are too many of the old, the new can't shine as much
>>97289823>>97289845>>97289861broken column for tomb kings, I like this idea and there's some cheap cake decorations that could do itAs for dwarfs or marauders, any ideas instead of normal fences?
>>97289886Some more ideas from the How to Make Wargames terrain book
>>97289886>>97289957Also for some chaos themed, which are spiked barriers
>>97289957>>97289965thanks!
>>97289886something like this would be quite easy, just get a chain between two posts or even dwarfs painted as stone and hang those mini shields the warrior kit gets along it.
>>97289886>maraudersa line of small menhirs that detail the tales of glory of lesser champions heads on pikes, rows and rows of them with plenty of fell runes on the grounda fissure in the earth that emanates (conveniently chest high) demonic flames
>>97289872ok, but sliv and orç have to be those colors, the only one that could be moved is earth, but good luck finding a fitting color for it that isn't browinsh at best
>>97290180>orç>not green
>>97290180best I can do is this, but it would need to be a dirtier green
>>97290205it's pronounced org(y), it's orange
>>97290180Gur should be amber, otherwise speels like Amber Claws and Amber Spear don't make much sense in that lore
I'll answer my own TQ again:I'd like to get the mechanical steed back. From what I've heard it wasn't a good pick for engineers in ye olde years, but I think it looks cool.>>97289375I'm trying to paint stripes on the clothes of my Empire dudes. It's going surprisingly well, although I'm not sure whether I'll go for block patterns as well (usually that's an orc thing in this setting).>>97289418>>97289484Admittedly I don't pay that much attention to file names, as long as I can find them back in my image folders. I'll rename it in the off-chance I'll reuse it for an OP in a year or two (if I'm still around on this god-forsaken website, that is).>>97289461That's why I limited this to units or characters..
>>97289965>Spiked BarriersI've made a couple such for myself as I've long been intending to make enough terrain for a game agnostic entrenched battlefield. >>97289886>MaraudersCarved wooden idols.A wide rune stone or several slimmer ones, bonus points if they depict some noteworthy deed.A row of dead bodies and/or discarded/broken weapons. >DwarfsFallen pillar. Stone statues of some ancestors.Decorative shields hanging off some kind of wall.A cave in. Mine cart(s).A slim gap to a lower underground level.A slain beast (works best for Slayers).
>>97289551The mortar version strikes me as a massive waste of a chassis, personally.
>>97289363>TQidk they brought most of the stuff i would want back already, unless we're talking legacy factions.I guess getting some more of Monstruoes Arcarnum units back would be neat, even if they didn't have models like the shard Dragon or one of the incarnate elementals of death.pic unrelated
>>97289363>TQThe characters that would make the most sense would probably all be undead, but I woudn't mind getting back some of the forge world ranges, stuff like manaan's blades or the Giant Squig.>>97289690Really nice work anon.>>97289957God this book was the best, I need to dig my copy out to motivate me to finish sprucing up my MDF buildings.>>97289375Working on arguably the main centrepiece mini for my entire orc army; the Giant. I've been freehanding some of my regular opponent's banners onto his pants, as if he's just ripped them apart to wear as clothes. Pic related is a Nuln banner, it's meant to be a pair of crossed cannons with a wreath around them (the cut off part of the banner is on the backside of his arse). Umming and Aaahing over trying to do a scroll that says NULN over the top, but I worry it might get a bit busy (and my freehanding isn't that good).
Enough of the Grand Cathay releases.
>>97289363>TQFimir
>>97289886broken columns also work for beastmen. Same with fences/walls. They tend to show up where other races use them, and broken stuff fits their MO
For my beastwomen army, Jabberslythe? It's wood elf coded, but could work nicely if painted right I'm giving up on painting, I'll commission some fuck to do it
>>97291055Also like these models, but only thing they might work for is dragon ogres, and they ain't dragon ogres.
>>97291068Shalom
>>97291133We are in a GW thread, but 3d printing is jewish?
Would the Gloomspite gitz Rockgut Troggoths be good as trolls ?
>>97291163arn't they just updated Rock Trolls models?
>>97291147Very
>>97291177Dunno, think they are made for AoS, so don't know how big the are
>>97291055not eldritch enough
>>97291195Yeah they are from AoS, but the design is pretty similar to the older metal Rock Trolls. They are taller, but they aren't wider so they should fit onto the 40x40 base
>>97291205Absolutely agree that looks a lot better.Costs over 10x the other one.
Any good alternatives to the old Orc on wyvern?
>>97291226Cool cool, might get a box or 2 of those then, thanks
>>97291253Just get one box and then order a 3d print of the torsos, since that's a major limiting factor of that kitHere is a video about it if you're curious skip to 2:40 where he starts talking about the kit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqc4L4UBmI8
>>97291283Legs and Necks*
Just a happy little orc arrer boy
>>97291055>coomer won't even paint his own shitGenuinely what's even the point then
Anyone have ideas on making Mark of Tzeentch less ass for smaller units/games?
>>97291332You make an interesting argument. Do I want them to be wholly my dudettes, or well painted.I'm also incredibly cheap so, it might come down to cost.
>>97291369You could learn to paint well yourself anon
>>97291311thin yo paints
20 Gors and no plans to support them with a character or buffs in Bloodherd2 units of 10, 5x2?1 unit of 20, 5x4? 7x3?
>>97291412Shields - 1 unit of 20 skirmish - This hold objectives pretty well.two weapon - 1 unit of 7x3 - takes flanks or charge pins enemy units. They will die first or second round of combat, but that can make you win a game so
How many black orcs are too many black orcs?
>>97291446A big unit of 20 is fine, maybe 24, but that's it
>>9729141220, 5x4 with additional hand weapon is how I run them. You don't get the extra attack on supporting attacks so it's usually about max attacks for charging while keeping some rank bonus so you don't get rezzed to death. Last month had the unit hold up three tree-kin for three turns, dishing out 5 wounds before dying to a flank charge.
>>97291436>>97291475Thanks anons
How do you guys pick an army in this game when so many of them are cool as fuck, I can't decide to start with bretonnia, warriors of chaos or the tomb kings.
I'm gonna 3d print a dream Cathay army since the first wave is scanned and I assume the second wave will be too. How many of each unit should I print?
>>97291947I Look around for really good deals on the secondhand market, if I'm having a hard time deciding.
>>97291947do a game with each army using stand ins, bases, or who cares what to see which game style you like best. Those 3 armies play very differently, so even if you end up liking one of their visual designs better, you might hate the way they play games with.Unless you just want to only collect them, then just get them all?
>>97291947I have autism, so I hyperfixated onto one from the get go to the point where collecting other armies is unthinkable and would rather restart collecting the same army again after selling it or collect different iterations of the same army If I were a more functional type of autist I'd probably collect multiple small forces of different armies instead, selecting the models in those small collections very carefully and regardless of what's good rulewise, instead of trying to cover all bases to be more flexible and competitive
>>97291947it's difficult if you haven't played the game much but you should pick the one that you enjoy the playstyle of the most. At the end of the day how an army looks or it's lore won't change how much you enjoy playing it, only the rules do that. For a first army all of those options are good though.
Any critique on this list? Da Deadeye Tribe [499 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Orc & Goblin Tribes, Battle MarchOrc Bigboss , Great weapon, Light armour, General, On foot, Dead 'Ard Armour - 9413 Orc Mob, Light armour, Shields, Big 'Uns, Boss (champion), Standard bearer - 11614 Orc Mob, Light armour, Shields, Boss (champion), Standard bearer - 9610 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour - 505 Orc Boar Boy Mob, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields, Boss (champion) - 98Goblin Bolt Throwa, Bolt thrower - 45I felt with both arrer boyz and the spear chucka could allow me to put down potentially tougher units or peel off the chaff ones. Big Boss has toughness 6 and will bolster the big uns. Boar Boyz will look to stay close with big uns to double or flank charge.
Just spent my money for brushes, sprays, and some paints on a gacha. fml.
>>97291006Probably won’t get anything else major till 2nd edition.
>>97292034>He fell for the coomer chorf trick
>>97292036yeah Horus Heresy got resin shoulderpads for 7 months when 40k 9th ed released, sgs gets fucked over every time.
>>97292014Dunno man looks mighty standard to me.Warbows are free to boyz so you could mix arreeers into the boyz to represent that and take warbows on all units.gw is retarded I cannot believe they put bows at cost - 0 p
Would you refuse to play wfb with someone basing their armies for tow, or would that be no biggie for you?
>>97292152I personally would not mind and I'd expect the same treatment from someone wanting to play TOW because I have my models on the old bases. The golden rule anon! Always follow it.
>>97292152larger bases are mostly a negative factor in previous editions it's a nonissue unless the guy in question is an issue by itself regardless
>>97292014Putting the archer mob into both other mobs and giving them all boys, so it's 18 and 19 boyz respectively, will give those units a lot more staying power. You risk them cutting and running after taking only a few losses at such small numbers. >>97292152Anyone willing to try out old editions rather than the new thing gets a thumbs up from me.
>>97289448Your mom.
>>97292014Big Uns are super overcosted for infantry Boyz.It's worth it for Boar Boyz (the boar also receives the bonifier.
>>97292014Perhaps something like this:Orc & Goblin Tribes [498 pts]Orc Bigboss, Great weapon, Light armour, General, On foot - 59Orc Weirdboy, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], On foot, Battle Magic - 6518 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour, Shields, Boss (champion), Standard bearer - 12018 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour, Shields, Boss (champion), Standard bearer - 1206 Orc Boar Boy Mob, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields, Big 'Uns, Boss (champion), Standard bearer
>>97292493>DoomstonesWhen dwarves go skaven.
>>97292519Shame they never finished that campaign, it was probably for the best
>>97292502Better.Now drop one orc in each unit so that they will rank as 9x2 with heroes in them and use spared points to buy some items.
>>97292553I think 9x2 is excessive for a 500p game, particularly given that tables at that size are often smaller so it might be a pain to actually move these blocks around, and very easy for them to lose any rank bonus. 6x3 would probably work better. Also, why not just have an extra ablative orc in each for when they inevitably get peppered by arrows or spells?
>>97292637>Also, why not just have an extra ablative orc in each for when they inevitably get peppered by arrows or spells?aesthetics.
>>97292262Hmm yeah that's fair. I'd have thought 15/14 would be ok at 500 points and with other units to worry about, might reduce the damage taken. My other concern is that without arree boyz or the spear chucka, I have no means to do much but move forward and hope i break the enemy.>>97292502I appreciate that though I ran into an orc army before like this, kind of, and he was very limited with just two unit blocks. >>97292493They seem like a bargain compared to chaos warriors cost wise.
>>97291311Do you want advice on painting ?
>>97292725>, I have no means to do much but move forward and hope i break the enemy.Welcome to warhammer ! Enjoy your stay !
>>97292502Here's my battlemarch list which has been pretty successful so far.Orc Archers [500 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Orc & Goblin Tribes, Battle MarchOrc Bigboss, Light armour, General, On foot - 55Orc Weirdboy, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], On foot, Battle Magic - 6520 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour, Shields - 1205 Goblin Wolf Rider Mob, Shields, Cavalry spears - 5020 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour, Shields - 1205 Orc Boar Boy Mob, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields - 90
What is the nu-male faction?
>>97292778Do you think in this case removing the ballista would be best?I just checked and if i downgrade the big unz for more boyz and remove the ballista, i can have a really sizeable army.
>>97292784your favourite
>>97292725Every orc have warbows, anon, they're free.So when stationary each unit fires between 12 and 10 shoots with Volley Fire.
The WAAAGH can now begin
Can I get the QRD on key rules changes for the new edition of WFRP?
>>97292784Dorfs
>>97292984Don't know specifics yet, but from interviews we've seen specific mention of >all the 4e books will remain compatible with the new edition.>removing and combing some of the meta cuurenies like Fate and Fortune, and Resolve and Resilience>changes to channelling rules to winds of magic type rules>Advantage rules changed to group advantage from Up in Arms
>GW, please stop wanking chaos in the lore and focus on more interesting factions>Ok we will....>great>....wank off WoW China instead >8)
Do we have any idea what factions could get releases? Kislev?
>>97293453Niggers
>>97293453A Mediterranean region one is possible, not sure which but people want Araby, I want Estalia.Someone mentioned there is reference to a new kind of woodelf in south east asia. Lots of people hoping for Vampire Coast, but just as many angry at the idea.
Did cathay really need gunners, shield gunners, and arrow gunners? Idk how the game works.
Cathay could have been cool.
If AoS was cancelled, how much work would need to be done to transfer each army to WFB as a new/variant faction?
>>97293453Kislev and VC/Vampire Coast are suspected nextDoW is hoped for but not expectedDE, Ogres, and Skaven are laughed out of the thread and doomed to tranny game for the foreseeable future>>97293600 is most likely
>>97293932Is there any reason to think AoS could be cancelled?
>>97293932God this would be the worst fucking monkey's paw ever. I do not want that gay bullshit in WFB other than the 1:1 updated Night Goblin and Skaven models. Even the sea elves are poorly done.
>>97293995Do you know what if means
>>97294013why are sigmar derangement fags always ESL?
>>97293995>Dominion 2 electric floppalooAt least they aren't giving it away by the palette at Adepticon, they're a little more tactful about it now
>>97294029
>>97293932I wouldn’t care. I ignore half the setting for tow anyways.
If I wanted to try and adapt the Penitent One from the Blasphemous videogames as a Warhammer Fantasy special character, would this be the thread to get feedback on the results?
Lads is the tomb king box a good starting point for this game, I just got back from beating some ultramarines with my necrons at my LGS and afterwards I was watching some Old World being played. It looks pretty fun, so I want to play the skeletons for the same reason I like necrons.
>>97294290Sure, what do you got so far?
More cathay when?I need jade/jet lions
What is a good repository of lore? Where do you anons go to find obscure details, flags, and characters? Fandom sucks, and even lexicanum seems lacking in certain areas. Is this the best we got?
>>97294526Army books retard. WHF existed before TOW and its shitty Arcane Journals
>>97294526You will realize, WHFB lore was never really interesting or good and TOW lore is kinda barebones.
>>97294526>Where do you anons go to find obscure details, flags, and characters?I make up my own.
>>97294408Well, just spitballing at the moment... It's actually been a while since I played, so this is just spur of thought...The Penitent OneUses: 1 Lord slotStats: M4, WS 8, BS 3, S 4, T 4, W 4, I 4, A 3, Ld 10Gear: Mask of the Penitent One, Arsenal of Penance, Sacred Bile FlasksSpecial Rules: Immune to Psychology, Dodge & Parry (4+ Invulnerable save)Mask of the Penitent One: The Penitent One Causes Fear.Sacred Bile Flasks: During the Magic Phase, the Penitent One can regain 1 missing Wound. When used, roll a d6; on a 1, the Penitent One has exhausted his supply of sacred bile and cannot use any more flasks for the rest of the battle.Arsenal of Penace: The Penitent One is armed with three Magic Weapons. Declare which weapon the Penitent One is bearing at the start of your turn; you cannot change this choice until your next turn. All of the Penitent One's weapons have the Magic Weapon trait.Ruego al Alba: When the Penitent One reduces a foe to 0 Wounds, the Penitent One regains one missing WoundSarmiento & Centella: The Penitent One gains the Paired Weapons and Always Strikes First special rules.Veredicto: The Penitent One's attacks gain +2 Strength and the Flaming Attacks special rule, but his Dodge & Parry save is reduced to 5+.
>>97294526Old army books are in the OP. I recommend the middlehammer 4th-6th ed ones, they were the most sovlfvl.
>>97294594Oh I thought you meant to recreate them thematically using wargear, magic items etc.Is regular play pretend not enough? Gotta add an extra layer of delusion?>>>42214711 Might be more up your alley
Just put the finishing touches on my first 500 pts of nomadic waaagh for an escalation league I'm joining.
>>97294759Nice !
Trying to make some Chracian Woodsmen. The axes look terrible rn
Lots of Orcs and Goblins lately, and Beastmen too I suppose - where are the rest of you other factions?
>>97294774There is no weight behind them you would need to repose to make them work.
>>97289823Source for image is GW's "How to Make Wargames Terrain". I Have that book, it's pretty good.
>>97294774>>97294858It's literally just the first one that looks awkward, that arm is very clearly supposed to be holding a sword. No one holds an axe like that, the arm abducted and extended wide. Maybe you could get creative and model him in motion somehow so he's making a desperate mid-air swing at something, but it would be easier to just fix the arm.
>>97294454chances are the lions too wouldn't get locked in the materials they're made of like the bigger statue
>>97294324It works pretty well, just make sure you build the horsemen as archers. Paint them too.
>>97294774just lower the first's weapon
>>97293453Kislev won't be till next edition, rumours only have it as far off aka not this year. Even legacy armies like ogres don't seem likely anytime soon, we are looking at a pretty barren year, we will probably see Cathay wave 2 by late Jan, chaos additions by March, a couple journals and then the new edition teased by the end of summer.
The completed Skweel.
>>97295095What about the weird tomb kings vs wood elves box I've been hearing about?
>>97295128Funniest joke this edition.
>>97295114it's weird how this dude is almost completely unknown despite having a modelhe's not even one of the limited edition characters
>>97289727Those look sweet anon, they’ve turned out very well considering their origins.>>97289650Good progress, I’ve got some stoermvermin on the way myself.>>97289690Trolls, they will be a nice break after finishing a ranked unit. tonight I’m painting some wizards I’d been procrastinating for an age. An elf renegade/exile(mounted) who might be fucking with necromancy, and literally Gandalf but with a different sword.
>>97294526Outside of just the army books, it depends on the faction, the old Heraldry books are good for that, but they only cover Empire, Skaven, and High Elves.Some WFRP books can also work as the Salzenmund splat book goes into detail about the city's army, including their unit composition and what their banners for each unit looks like and symbolically represents, but again WFRP is almost exclusively Empire focused and when it does look at other races like the dwarfs or the lizerdmen doesn't really focus on the military aspect of them.
>>97295114Neatly painted, anon!
>>97295141I really hate the wow kobold look they gave skaven in AoS but if it means a return from legacy for the old kits so be it.
Are there any TOW or Fantasy paint guides or the like for Lahmia?
>>97289799No one ITT uses any terrain
>>97295426aos skaven look exactly the same to me
>>97291446I don't even want to live around one, to be honest
>>97292784Beastmen, it would seem
>>97289363>Which squatted unit, character (or character option) would you like to see return to Warhammer TOW?SKULLCRUSHERSSKULLCRUSHERSSKULLCRUSHERSSKULLCRUSHERSSKULLCRUSHERSEither that or bring back the chaos runeshield with the old effect (all magical weapons used by enemies become hand weapons)
>>97295620they have longer more narrow muzzles than 7th ed ones with longer arms and bigger hands more like the old skaven models and pointed ears. I guess you could say they are less 'cute' but at the same time they look more generic and more like furries somehow.
I bought some scratchbuilding stuff for ToW and Mordheim. Haven't put anything together yet, but would you guys be interested in seeing a WiP when I do get going?
>>97295728yeah
>>97289799Elves and dwarfs still have farms and fences. They might not be as shabby as human fences, but theyre still fences. The norse also have fences (and farms), so WOC can also use them. Hell, even greenskins might have fences as a means of marking boundaries or for squig pens and the like. Skaven would have fences, but more for underground slave pens and the like.Vampires have fences because they live in human lands.
Someone at my flgs got rid of his 6th ed dwarfs. I picked up 20 metal longbeards, 20 metal hammerers, both with full commands. I’m not necessarily looking to play ToW, but an army painting project might be fun. What would a 6th ed time capsule army look like? Is it possible to go all metal? What should I look to buy?
>>97295818>I picked up 20 metal longbeards, 20 metal hammerers, both with full commands. I’m not necessarily looking to play ToW, but an army painting project might be fun. What would a 6th ed time capsule army look like? Is it possible to go all metal? What should I look to buy?Fuuuuuuuuck, nice !
>>97295596Not really that I can find, only a few splash artworks that show some colors for their troops.
>>97295728Yes, that's what this thread needs, I've been saying it for years. Some actual effort and people who actually care about the hobby
>>97295818Find a copy of a 6th ed (not 6.5 or 7th!) dwarf army book, crack it open, and look at the pretty army pictures for inspiration.
>>97295618I have that battle mat but i do use terrain
>>97295818rules aside, I'd get a flame cannon and an anvil of doom
>>97296228>flame cannonWasnt it still that silly barrel one at this point though ?
>>97295818trolltrader has tons of the OOP dwarf metals, so if you want to continue to fill out the army using models from that era, thats probably where i would start.also, as a dwarf player with no metals, jelly as fuck lolfor construction of the force, what you've got, add in a couple lords, if you can find the old metal gyro 1 or 2 of those, some slayers, and some grudge throwers and that would be a pretty normal well rounded dwarf force of the time. also probably some warriors and quarellers or thunderers but i think even in 6th edition those were already plastic, you'd have to go really far back to get metal versions of those
Buildings done at last, I realised I needed to add a little more wear, dirt and mould to various spots near the floors and walls.
>>97296311Yeah they were plastic. In fact, its the boxes available right now. Iirc you needed an unit of Warriors to field an unit of Longbeards so that is neccesery, missiledwarfs not so much.Slayers have incredible metal sculpts.
>>97296341Here’s the cool kitbashed one, since they were actually a touch too small in scale I cut apart 3, filed the shit out of it to make the buildings stack, added a touch of foamboard.
>>97296286Just checked in the first 6e armybookI think your real problem is your choice of basic troops, 6th ed ones aren't exactly stellar and neither are the later onesI'd consider grabbing avatar of war once, I believe the sculptor was paniagua, who sculpted a number of 6th and 7th ed dwarf sculpts
>>97296341Looks good. FDM printer ?
>>97296361also this armybook did have the option for a royal clan army where those two units you have would already cover the core requirements, but it limits some models you can take after those
>>97296360Also played a game at a local arcade this Friday just gone with a ‘bring any board game’ night. The place even had a few rocks and a cute stable to use as terrain sitting around, I just brought the rest and the mat..750battlemarch- a buddy wanted to try my empire against my own lizards.Here’s deployment, my pal put a hellblaster on the other side of the field which is why the lizards are deployed cagily
>>97296354i dont really remember 6th edition all that well as far as list building requirements, i played it for 5 minutes and dipped out cause i dont like rank and flank gamesif you need warriors and are okay with the plastic ones, the battalion comes with an absolute shitload of guys for the price. just be aware that the moulds have degraded somewhat so they have really bad mould lines and mould slips, so some of the parts have pretty egregious gaps slips that will need to be filled or shaved down respectively. but if you're already willing to put in the level of work needed to deal with metals, that shouldnt be too big of an ask
>>97296383As I walked into the place a lizard from another spawning pool stood vigil - an auspicious omen. I brought:Scarvet on cold one with hide of the old ones and halberd2x5 cold one- one with no command10 saurus with a champ2x10 skinks with javelins- one had vanguard.My buddies empire village defence force:Lvl 2 mage- talisman of prot- earthing rodEngineer with hochland rifle24fc spearmenWith 2 5 man handgun detachments2 units of empire huntsmen5 knights >>97296362Yeah fdm, a friend bought me 20$ of assorted temu buildings and this was the haul.
Put the finishing touches on my giant. He was a fun break from endless ranks of orcs, but it's back to the grindstone after this. While I could have done more freehand, I think I was going a little insane as is.>>97296383Nice setup anon, and both armies look great.>>97295618Flat terrain is truly the bane of a good looking board, it was one of the things that turned me off of the Ice and Fire miniatures game, and my opinion has not changed since then.On the topic of, does anyone have any advice for sprucing up a classic green felt battle mat? While it's great, and has served me faithfully for a long long time, it can look a little flat and lifeless, even with terrain on it.
>>97296416The old ones really were watching- my opponent miscast turn one- which he rerolled the result into a undispellable miscast bleh .My turn I attempted a fated dispel and got rid of the vortex. Freeing the way for my skinks, one unit caused an archer to panic, clearing the way for the other to shoot at the lone wizard- who despite being a skirmisher in a forest suffered like 6 wounds as a deadly volley of javelins silenced him for good.In the following turns the saurus charged the knights, whiffed annd took 1 wound and spent the entire game fighting in a stalemate. Meanwhile my opponents main force of hellblaster, handgunners and engineer remained. I postured behind buildings till I could run skinks saurus and cold ones at the same time - the skinks and saurus turned to paste however the engineer ensured good shooting from the 18 shots rolled in 2 successive turns .However I attempted the desperate and stupid- I charged my full command cold ones into spearmen - I gave ground and slowly began grinding them down, 2 turns later they broke and panicked the hellblaster and engineer- and worse were caught. The empire ran from the field here. Praise be to Sotek.It was a pretty fun game. I like it he battlemarch restrictions honestly.
>>97296509Thanks anon, I’ll have to get a stable though of my own after this though!Hills,aka books underneath. Spraying pattetern like some dirt paths or dead/slightly darker grass also helps break up the big green. Otherwhise I highly reccomend making a few crops out of cheap yellow rubber backed mats. Just throw some of those on a good chunk of your table, one Matt sufficiently cut to pieces will make heaps. They are stiff so hold models and trays- easy to store and look super cool. I made mine have furrows by pressure spraying lines in them but that’s just me. I’m sure they’d work without it. Here’s a pic.
>>97294759that banner is awesome, fellow orcfag
>>97296572Good to see another rat aficionado at your storeBut I do not trust him
Assembling some more clanrats from bits and pieces I have left.
>he doesn't use data to decide which army to play lmaoing@you "rule of cool" fags.
>>97291976>and would rather restart collecting the same army again after selling it or collect different iterations of the same armyAnon, as a fellow autist I wouldn't sell my old army, but rather expand on it. Go for the 100k points in a decade, or plan a contingency plan to rebase them for other ones if (or once) TOW dies in the far future.>>97293453I doubt we're going to see anything substantial for a while besides maybe Kislev if they want to 'risk' it releasing already. We might get some new plastics for one of the factions- I'm only seeing Empire and Orcs & Gobs' kits sell out on the store, so maybe one of those two will get something new. I doubt they want to burn their fingers on the mess that is Empire right now, considering people that buy those miniatures probably prefer a specific older art style that doesn't mesh well with the art style of the rest of GW's catalogue.>>97293932Won't happen so we shouldn't speculate on that. AoS' market (the US) would have to implode in order for them to consider axing it, and while in 2016 you could say that AoS hasn't deviated that far from Fantasy they have completely reimagined the setting to be very much that American high fantasy Warcraft slop that they're so fond about in the New World.>>97294526Most of what's actually published about Fantasy is in the catbox files in the OP.The Empire is the only faction that really got any deep delves through the RPG, and even then it's primarily limited to the big five cities, Reikland, and then some general descriptions of every place. On top of all that GW will change "canon lore" every few years, because Fantasy is a background setting that only exists to give context to the miniatures they're selling. Even the relatively stable and expansive Empire lore can change radically depending on what the writers want - they even decided to obliterate several of the provinces on their TOW map to create a few 'new' core sub-factions they can copyright.
>>97297092Damn, I remember everybody was playing some kind of elf or vampire count back in 7th
>>97297115I'd say aos is now closer to fantasy than it was in 2016, at least setting wise.
>>97297115>Empire lore can change radically depending on what the writers want - they even decided to obliterate several of the provinces on their TOW map to create a few 'new' core sub-factions they can copyright.Locations like Ostland, Hochland and Nordland still exist in the lore, but they are just under the thumb of Middenheim/Middenland during TOWs timeframe.
>>97297139Maybe I should have rephrased it as an aesthetic. I'm sure the tone of the writing is close to the other GW settings, but aesthetically AoS clashes too heavily with Fantasy to ever fit.>>97297191They still exist, but for now GW is going to stick to mentioning Osterlund™ in most of the little lore snippets. I expect them to eventually give up on that since there was a lot of pushback to Ostland and Hochland disappearing from the current setting's map (not Nordland though, no one is sorry to see them enter the dustbin of history).
>>97296572Great doomwheel, anon! I just wrapped up a match where I ran Skaven against Tzeentch in 7th edition. I didn't think I would like any other faction as much as I did Vampire Counts, being an obsessive autist, but I did with these little ratfags after giving them a chance just to see how the Doomwheel and Plague Furnace works.
Errata was announced for end of january, correct?
Popped this list together. I think this is balanced for Battle MarchOrc & Goblin Tribes [749 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Orc & Goblin Tribes, Battle MarchOrc Bigboss, Great weapon, Heavy armour, General, On foot, Trollhide Trousers - 102Night Goblin Oddgit, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], On foot, Ruby Ring of Ruin, Waaagh! Magic - 9020 Orc Mob, Light armour, Shields, Big 'Uns, Full Command - 17720 Orc Mob, Light armour, Shields, Full Command - 13710 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour - 5010 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour - 505 Orc Boar Boy Mob, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields, Boss (champion) - 98Goblin Bolt Throwa, Bolt thrower - 45Ruby ring with gobber shaman and itchy nuisance to turn the orc archers into lethal threats.Bolt thrower to kill anything high threat and boar boyz as a hammer. Big Boss has 4+ armour abd regeb though still split on that or to make him T6.
>>97297261Hochlands got a lot of mentions in the TOWRPG book due to Ludenhofs being an important political force, manipulating events in Taalagad.
Kislev soon. I can feel it.
>>97297454Is that your Boss anon?
>>97297442I just know it should be this month, but GW has delayed major announcements before
>>97297577I wish, it is someone elses. Any 2 cents on my 750 list?
>>97297620Looks fine as far as I can tell at that points level. Arrer Boys might do fuck all though.
>>97297623The bows are free this edition.
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>>97297511Man, Hochland really is the eternal foreign adversary in these RPG books.>>97297092Very interesting argument. However, I cannot help but notice that this post was typed by someone with a skintone darker than mine. Therefore, any opinion or argument you bring forth is instantly invalidated.>playing TOW as a tournament gameI suggest you make friends that you can play this game with, instead of playing out of a notion to compete with others in a dice game for nerds too scared to go to the casino and interact with normies. I'm sure your personality is tolerable enough for atleast a few guys in your area to tolerate... right, anon?
>>97297092>he doesn't intentionally use tournament data to pick an army with a 45% or less win rate because the thought of someone calling him a WAACfag causes him genuine anxiety
>>97297092>second most played faction at tournies>not even in the same stratosphere for performancewhy were anons on here claiming O&G are good again?
>>97297746They are better than ever.
>>97297454Every Boyz mob wihtout bows is like don't taking shields for free, it makes no sense.Those Boar Boyz need Big Uns and an addition orc. You have those points removing Big Uns from the Orc mob.I don't think Trollhide Trousers are better than Talisman of Protection for the 10 points more. In any case if you keep the Trousers then consider to add the Charmed Shield.
>>97297746Orcs and goblins are only slightly worse standard than the warriors of chaos right now. Both are, objectively, middle of the pack in terms of performance. Power has little to do with popularity.
>>97297746O&G players are built different, you have a lot less WAACfags there and even those guys tend to have more of a sense of humor
>>97297799must be a hell of a sense of humour to get facerolled by HE with supposedly a top tier faction ruleset lmao
>>97297261The TOW stuff isn't really altering anything big about the Empire - we know the political landscape has changed a lot over the Empire's history. If anything it's weird that it's changed so little in 2500 years.The only issue is why the fuck they made Sudenland part of Wissenland rather than the area traditionally considered Sudenland - i.e. the land between the Upper Reik and the Soll.Also Ostermark being part of Middenheim's lands is weird because Ostermark and Talabecland are joined at the hip for most of the Empire's history but whatever.
>>97297623I get that, honestly it's just to give me an option to blast from range besides ruby ring and shaman. Ballista is a threat, two archers are and so is the shaman. That way i don't get completely out monouvered. I did consider 5 wolf riders but that'll just cost me even more money.
>>97297865I guess the TOW team got confused why Ost was in both Ostermark and Osterlund and didn't realise it just means East in German, same way a big part of the TOW narrative is making a big deal for the Norsca invasion to Westerland so it's get renamed the wastland in WFB, which was more due to Empire poltics and Marianburg not giving a shit about the region in the original Lore.
>>97297776Its theme really. Feels weird having every orc with sword and board just blasting arrows from their fingertips. The main toss up i have for big boss is >meteoric iron>troll pants>drog's dead ardI like the idea of toughness 6 but according to chatgpt it is statistically worse than talisman of protection or troll pants.
>>97297835Most wfb players seem to play a specific faction because they like them, not because they do well at tournaments or on the table. That said, there is always a competitive guy that wants to Win, and that aspect of it is warping the game because those people are willing to pay a shitload of money to buy the models so they can win at the big tournament that matters to them, and Games Workshop is quite willing to warp the game's rules if it makes more sales. So you see the brand new faction at the top of the tournament charts, they've been doing this for a long time and tourneyfags buying in just makes their original scheme more intense and the cycles shorter between OP stuff. Cathay was them trying to court Chinese customers and the rest of us just have to deal with it
>>97297454All Orc mobs that dont go for spears or 2 choppas get bows for free. Skirmishing 10 orc units with bows do fuck all. Bump up the numbers on the boar boyz with the saved points, and giving big unz to the boar boyz is very good. That way you have a better cavalry punch, AND still have archers that can also brawl in melee with your two 20 orc blocks. If you don't want that for themeing reasons it feels like you don't really need our feedback, it's a fine list especially at that points level.>>97297746Because orcs are fun, chud.
>>97298005>That said, there is always a competitive guy that wants to WinThat's my group, we all recently came from 40k and saw a bunch of geezers playing ToW at our local store. We ended up playing, but because 40k is much harder and more competitive in nature we usually just mop the floor with all these old fucks with relative ease. I hope more 40k people start playing ToW because the current group of old boomers suck ass at the actual game part and seem like they just want to show up and waste valuable tabletop space in the stores when they could just play their retarded meme style at home or something.
>>97298095Historipiggy pig go oinky oink
>>97298144>he thinks 40k is historyToo much lead paint back in the day boomer?
>>97298095Trying too hard
>>97298095>Speak of the devil and he shall appear
I was one of those "old geezers" at the game store. This guy and his gang showed up with matching outfits and played music for themselves to be "introduced" into the game facility. They had "hot" girls dancing in front of them (stupid sluts) and they kept saying their catchphrases, and they had their HIRED by the way girls put their models down on the table and move them while we were playing. It was very disrespectful. And I won't even go into what they started to get into on turn 3
>>97298192bullshit
are aos niggers really so upset over nothing they will come in here and larp as WAACfag 40kiddies to try and annoy us
>>97297746Anon, "being played a whole lot" and "does not have a very high overall W/R" are actually linked. WoC being the most played faction is going to be depressing their win rate because the likelyhood is that a lot of those players are casuals, rather than hardcore sweats. Same for OnG. Armies that are played by only a relative handful of dudes can perform much better if those dudes are generally competetive minded players.
Can anyone give an archived link about the Dark Shadows campaign website? (at least I presume that there is one, just like for Storm of Chaos and Eye of Terror)Want to gather any info and pics.
>>97298078>Skirmishing 10 orc units with bows do fuck allThat is a very interesting take because skirmishing 10 ungors with bows consistently punch up. Orcs get light armor and longer range. Does quick shot on the ungor bows matter that much? I do know for sure that ambush is worth more than shields at the same pt cost tho.
>>97298242I assume it’s smegmarites false flagging I’ve yet to see vitriol from the 40K community towards fantasy. Most are indifferent to positive about Fantasy.
>>97298370I never heard anything bad about Fantasty from 40k people at all, if anything it was a curiosity about how it worked.
>>97298268Nvm, I found it on my own.https://web.archive.org/web/20011005155254/http://www.games-workshop.com/albion/uk/intro/introduction.htmhttps://web.archive.org/web/20020803150729/http://www.games-workshop.com/albion/uk/warjournal/warjournal.htm
>>97289363>TQmarked gors must return.
>>97298078That's fair feedback, I don't mean to disregard advice, its more of if the list good "as is" or are there trap choices im flagrantly making. For example, my first army which is WoC is *filled* with trap choices, where with Orcs it feels more things are in the spectrum of viable. I understand mass archers in blocks with melee is top shelf, but on the flip side, perhaps im playing too autistic.
>>97298405Any chance you know what Tzeentch did to them?
I can't find any place for good Skaven icons so I can make army formations in paint.exe any help would be appreciated
>>97298720https://files.catbox.moe/c041yf.pdfSkaven Heraldry
>>97298242It's Perryfaggot
>>97298748Thank you anon!
>>97298871https://files.catbox.moe/yelydo.pdfHave some more Skaven stuff
Are there principal differences between TK and VC gameplay? Not just units differences or existence of shooting, but how they actually feel to play as and against?
>>97298988Playing against VC fucking sucks. Do a rez army and you just grind your opponent down and they really don't have any choicesTK can do this too but it generally feels less oppressive, for some reason, but you can do some ldship bomb builds. I had a game where my Stormvermin fled from the catapult special ammo, rally, march forward then get hit and sent running again for the entire game.But I'm a skavenfag so I usually feel like I don't have choices but I hear complaints about VC from many people
>>97299008I wander why VC may feel more oppressive with the resurrection. Both resurrects their undeads with the same mechanics, mages and models prices and stats are almost the same (+\- 10 points), etc. Only thing I can think about is - TK models are just worse defensively - everything is flammable, infantry has 1 less armor, no Drakenhof Banner's analogue, no "Newly Dead" units, etc.
