Why does GW keep releasing downgrades of their old models?
>>97296810humiliation ritual (for their customers)
>>97296810because they know retards will buy it. They managed to make marine players buy their own army twice
>>97296810Why dont we make this thread more focused about why you don't like the new nightbringer model? Start us off by giving some specifics, maybe the feet are not sexy enough?
Who wore it best?
>>97297201Old model didn't even have feet. Maybe OP just hates feet?>>97296810OP, why do you hate feet?
>>97297201I think the lil digital squaring on his cloak looks dumb
>>97296810The Nightbinger is 99% great, only the scarab bit is a miss. It's also one of the few official paintjobs that is technically impressive.
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>>97296810I boughted it because of the feet specifically.
Less detail/larger surface areas = easier to paint for casuals = more people playing = $$$$$
>>97297201Flying + action pose + digital cloak + tactical scarab swarm is overdoing it.One or two of the above would have been fine but all four just looks silly.
>>97298330saaaaaar beautiful necron feets saar
>>97297201digivolving cloak and the scarabs really look out of place
>>97298644>>97298730>>97297358>digicloakOk fair, it is the new necron vibe and you either like it or you dont. Cleaning mold lines off that must suck balls.
>>97297201I liked how the old model has the shroud and scythe meld into the more "organic" parts of the model, as if it's just an illusion a mortal mind can comprehend. The new model is esdentially using its tools and is covered by necron shit.
>>97300934The detail I liked the most about the old one was how he was riding a wave of scarabs. Now they are just kinda placed there off to the sides.
>>97297201i dont want to see his feet
>>97297201>feet>dumbass digitalization effect>supported by spindly bits that will break immediately>why the fuck are there scarabs >soijak mouth>absolute shitsauce paint job, not really part of the model but doesn't make it look any better
>>97296941Nope>>97296955/thread
>>97296810I wouldnt say it is a downgrade.
>>97307507>omg its a bigger model that means its better
>>97307904It's not finecast, so it's better by default.
Man they really fucking ruined Necrons. SM got all tacticool and generic sci-fi units. Necrons got nuked from every direction. Are they even robot egyptians any more?
>>97308080Nah necrons still look pretty good, the only real problem is the squatting of the green rods
>>97307507the old one looks like a ghost. The new one looks like doctor doom or some other capeshit pop culture character
>>97308224They look like WoW characters
>>97308080>Are they even robot egyptians any more?no, and thank god for that
>>97307904>new model has more flow in dynamic>better fabric flow>fabric got a digitalisation effect>cool reaper weaponSure, it is just the size.And before you try to call fanboy-ism. It has different flaws.>base and model size is too big>scarabs look flat tacked on>digitalisation effect looks too videogame>needlessly make his body more human/necrontyr-likeI wonder if they increased the size to make the hitbox bigger for such a deadly character unit.>>97308293I wouldnt call that a downgrade. Thats more like an unneeded style change. I agree that it was more an undead/vampire/horror design and got changed into a sci-fi/videogame/cyberpunk design.>>97308080>TactcoolThats a good word for that change.
>>97296810The way grogs hate on the new Necrons is weird to me. In the 2000's every Necron army was just two monoliths, two lords with res orbs, and a giant wall of warriors played by the most autistic asshole in your club. Now there's actual lore and variety.
>>97308293Doctor Doom has a better design than all of 40k combined.
>>97308875I have a sneaking suspicion that most of those "grogs" weren't actually around back then.
>>97308888Doctor Doom inspired anybody in an armor bodysuit.
>>97308875The new necrons are so good. It’s the 5th ed tomb kings in space that I don’t like. The doom stalker and reanimated are so much cooler than the ghost arc and the doomsday arc.
>>97308875I agree, but I don't like the C'tan being broken and enslaved. If they wanted to make the C'tan from the War in Heaven more OP, they could have just had them breaking to pieces being a consequence of their age, in fitting with the rest of the Necrons. A C'tan shard would be more like an Avatar of Khaine than a little bitchboi slave.
>>97297201For me the model looks too fragile with dangly bits that could break off too easily if breathed at the wrong way.The model is a great display piece. Just not a structurally sound looking wargaming piece.Older models had the opposite problem of being more structurally stable focused for wargaming over being beautiful sculpt.
>>97308609That was the only good thing about them
>>97296810This is super mediocre and I hate the scarabs. Its funny that such a big deal character model is so poor when all the undead shit they make for AoS is great.
>>97296810The old nightbringer is one of GW's shittiest models still in use. Why climb up on a cross for a shit fucking model.
>>97307904>omg its a model from before I was born that means its better
>>97309901>Why climb up on a cross for a shit fucking model.Because it all has very little to do with the actual models, and a lot to do with kids finding a group to belong with and trying to fit in by trash talking whatever it is the group defines itself by not liking.
I think if you put the scarabs on the ground, plastered in all the stupid 'digitizing' bullshit, and filled in that retarded Necronahole in the scythe it'll be a massive improvement.
>>97296810I don't like it but the old one wasn't exactly good either
>>97296810NEW BAD BECAUSE......BECAUSE.....BECAUSE BAD!!!!
>>97309936Good point. Lets be constructive.Conversion and proxies!>>97310567The scythe hole isnt a problem. But that idea with the Scarabs is good.
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>>97308875You're confused because A: you're a repressed homosexual and that inner conflicts bleeds out of your psyche whenever you try to think about something, and B: because you dishonestly and disingenuously conflate models and army variety with "actual lore".Lots of the new *models* are cool, and few people object to most of the options, but the fluff written to justify them is trash. Left out uncollected for a month, leaking stink-juice, back of a curry joint fucking refuse. If you like Wardcrons you should, unironically and sincerely, kill yourself for the sake of the gene pool.
>>97311324One of the most retarded models I've ever seen.
>>97311935Your mother will soon kick you out of her basement.
>>97312107He is right. If you enjoy NuCrons you have shit taste objectively. The most marvel/reddit coded army in 40k
>>97307507It's another model that's designed to look cool in pictures,but is a pain to assemble, a massive pain to paint,and then, is so big yet fragile, that it has to have its own magnetized case to transport it without breaking it.And then you'll break it anyway, if it ever gets knocked over.But consumers eat this shit up, because they buy minis based on entirely superficial considerations, and only 1% of GW minis sold ever actually get decently painted anyway.
>>9731232640k has become a weird thing not really related to the wargaming hobby. It's a confluence of retail therapy, a painting competition and an esport. I know multiple people that buy GW models just to paint them and one of them works at GW.The way they talk about it is strange too, they're "into 40k" but all that really means is talking wank about painting and recent purchases. Like weird hipsters that are too cool for wargaming. They're vapists.
>>97308875Only non human part of new cron models are good, rest is just shity toob kings in space. Their fluff is fucking atrocious. They aren't scary anymore.
>>97308419While some of them are quite good, others come across as excessively goofy.In terms of personality, they resemble human zombies; Necrons are essentially just dead humans. They exhibit the same genders, mentalities, and perspectives as living humans, lacking any alien or mysterious qualities.
>>97313019Thanks chat GPT
>>97307990I had mine in metal, what know faggotists>>97308677He's death, that's the problemhe is the psychic inprint of death in the setting, the night bringer is the grim reaper because he mind raped everyone so heavily.
>>97312326I agree.>>97312621Thats the weird part. 40k is so widely spread in genres, that there is something for everyone. The videogamer, the book reader, the tabletop player, the youtube watcher, the lore lover, kit-basher the mini painter or the collector.Thats why it is raking money in.
>>97312621>The way they talk about it is strange too, they're "into 40k" but all that really means is talking wank about painting and recent purchases. Like weird hipsters that are too cool for wargaming. They're vapists.Yeah it's so fucking weirdI was watching some slop video about "the disaster of trench crusade" or whatever and I was reading the comment section and it was all "oh now i'm not into it anymore the lore is bad" or "the worldbuilding just isnt good thats why it failed" or other random shit like thatDo people not realize these are wargames with models that you play with, not just book series or whatever that you watch Youtube Shorts lore videos on? It's so strange
>>97297240I think this is better than OP
>>97296810they've replaced their model designers with AI (Actual Indians).
>>97314883>Do people not realize these are wargames with models that you play with, not just book series or whatever that you watch Youtube Shorts lore videos on?It could be that they engage with this fictional world in a different way than you do
>>97314883it's called the distillation of a hobby or interest in the pursuit of moneyit used to be you got into these things because you played the game not in spite of it, but games workshop has decided they're not a "game" company at all they are a model making company so pushing out endless retarded slop is the entire business model now and anyone playing the actual game is a retard
This is one of the few new GW models I actually adore.
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>>97314883Both aspects need to be good though. I paint models and play narrative focused games because I like the old 40k lore, the models and the game combined. I won't play trench slop because the setting and style doesn't appeal to me.
>>97314986I more of meant people who engage with the hobby via maybe youtube lore videos talking like they're actually "in the hobby"
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>>97307507The original looks much more sinister, the wicked sick dynamic action pose and robes randomly turning into a digital pattern supported by extremely brightly coloured lightning makes the new one look kind of... less threatening. He looks kind of like he could be a villain on a Saturday morning cartoon show that goes "nyeh-heh-heh!" and manages to not hurt anyone before being humiliated and sent packing by the heroes.
>>97315378Okay, you saved the thread.
>>97308875The new aesthetic I hate except for canopteks, and I flat out don't like the 5th retcons for lore.
>>97319122Also the old one is looking down, like he's looming over you, whereas the new one is looking straight at you like he's on your level
>>97319383Presumably so he can look all the other ridiculously large centrepiece models in the eye.
>>97298434literally the exact some design but bigger and in a slightly better pose
>>97319122They changed from horror to cyberpunk. I can understand when you liked the horror aspect more than videogame-cyberpunk.
>>97319216Surf's up.
