It is probably not too controversial to say that the art of modern rulebooks is made with female representation in mind.These women are predominantly filling important roles, such as archmages, military officers, or nobles.But how come there is barely any art that shows them in peril, or at a clear disadvantage? Regardless of their status.There is no shortage of men in peril.Neither in classic nor in modern art.
>>97302765disregard the fag in the middle real quickthe other two are the perfect example of what women in modern rulebooks look likestriking a pose - i guess with some sort of authority in the sceneand that's basically it.there is zero excitement, even in the more action-oriented motives (which is a general problem with modern DnD i suppose)
>>97302765illustrating my point furthercompare the expression on these two faces (not the beholder obviously)
>>97302765more empowered posing, or frolicking in this case
The art of modern rulebooks is made with the tastes of queer leftist women in mind.
Feels like a pointless argument starterProve your assertions, post a frazetta with a dude languishing on a slab
>>97302804the hair metal bard is a good piece thoughbeit
>>97302804>there is zero excitementso you can only get excited when women are in danger? you should probably talk to a therapist about that.
>>97302804I quite like the one on the right>>97302825Comparing different artists conveying different things in different books is not fair.Anyway it's just artists trying to correct (or perhaps overcorrect) for the years where women didn't get to be the cool pose strikers and had to be in peril. The most egregious thing about these art pieces isn't that there's no women being assaulted, it's that most of them convey absolutely zero sense of adventure or action. At what you want about the piece on the right >>97302825 being juvenile or "woke" or whatever, but at least she's actually fighting something and looks roughed up like an adventurer, unlike >>97302848 or the bard and left woman in >>97302804
>But how come there is barely any art that shows them in peril, or at a clear disadvantage? Regardless of their status.Because these companies aren't marketing equality they're marketing childish mary sue power fantasies. If you haven't figured this out by now I don't know what to say lol.
>>97302765Post every single art piece in the books and only after that we'll talk. Your sample size is just way to small, like most things in your life.
>>97302765>how come there is barely any art that shows them in peril, or at a clear disadvantage?Grimdark is broadly unfashionable at the moment. Give it ten years, maybe fifteen (assuming there's anyone left to enjoy media by then).
>>97302765It’s part of the broader trend of making tabletop gaming more ‘appealing’ to loser shitlibs who are unable to cope emotionally with anything that isn’t 100% simpatico with the political opinions dictated to them by soulless megacorporations.
>>97305100>Post every single art piece in the booksNTA but you could quickly shoot his entire argument down by posting artwork that proves him wrong. But you won’t.I believe shitlibs call what you’re doing ‘sealioning’.
You know you’re allowed to be sexist on this website, right? You can just say you don’t want women in your RPGs unless they’re getting raped by goblins.
>>97305171Counterpoint:1- I would have to download dnd to do that and I don't feel like It2- OP Is the one doing the retarded claim so the burden of proof Is on him
>>97302765What game are you working on that this thread will help you prepare for?
>>97304261>so you can only get excited when women are in danger?Unironically yes.No I dont wanna watch your gay family festival in a hyper queer fantasy town.I look at fantasy art to see shit go down.And I want bad shit to happen.To everyone.Also to women.Deal with it, fag.
>>97305325The strong women in peril campaignWhoops, can't get any material for it.Why is that?
>>97305309You have to be 18 or older to post here.
>>97302804Same reason why women don't get physically defeated in fights with men. Remember Triumph of Ferocity?
>>97305331Because you lack imagination even for your prefer magical realm?
>>97305566Honestly, NOT putting women in danger shows a lack of imagination. It is the accepted orthodoxy that women cannot be seriously hurt or fucked up in Western media by a man.God forbid you actually follow through with sexual peril, too!
>>97305577Yes. It should be forbidden. Women are valuable. Men are not.
>>97305331The irony is, women find being rescued or protected to be sexy as hell.
>>97305171A female adventurer falling to her death is in fact the illustration for the Nat 1 section, so I guess OP is wrong and a faggot, but where's the surprise there?
>>97305778>2024 dnd
>>97305797?
>>97305778these are both extremely tame and implicitcompare that to men getting explicitly shanked or dissolved by slimessee the left pic in >>97302825his fate is literally floating in the goo behind himbesides, the question was not whether these pictures exist.the question was why they barely exist.Or is there an equal amount of men and women getting stabbed in the PHB24?
>>97306000Well. Run the fucking numbers if you care so much.
>>97306071i havei am rightthe question is why it is so
>>97305187It is too early in the thread for OP to tell everyone he too retarded to play tabletop games.
>>97306000checked
>>97302765I don't like this artwork and I don't know why. Maybe it's because the hero looks weird jumping.
>>97302804The first two look terrible, but the elf is great.
>>97305187That knife about to jammed into her heart isn't exactly rape.
>>97305558This art is mediocre, not good but not terrible either.
>>97307006It's a penetration she didn't explicitly consent to... the fact that it's done by inanimate object makes no exception.
>>97307036based sword dick tick enjoyer
>>97303996In Frazetta art, they are the slab.
>>97304261>not feeling excitement at the thought of a mate being endangeredIf anyone needs a professional, it's (you). I suggest a muslim roofer.
>>97305752Yeah. Women are the chuddiest of chuds. Just go take a peak at the fiction they read or ask yourself why they like tall strong men and a good slap.
>>97305309Based, but I don't ever want to meet you in real life.
>>97307036So you would say that circumcising babies is also tantamount to rape?
>>97306217Well, your mom told me you're wrong last night when I fuck her.
>>97302825>Men get mulched>Women get to play dressupYeah, basically. And this is part of why gamers used to gatekeep our spaces.Imagine if men showed up to knitting circles and quilting bees with automated looms and began to optimize square footage of textiles produced by the group. There's a reason men DON'T do that, though. So why is it that women think it's ok when they do it?The answer of course is that their entitlement and lack of self-awareness is indulged and validated at every level in society and culture. Stop letting them get away with it. Just fucking stop tolerating it. Treat them equally, finally, for a change. And don't bend or compromise about it.
>>97312752If gatekeeping worked in this hobby then your retarded nogames ass would be somewhere else.
>>97307406I don't think the semantics are relevant, the mutilation of baby genitals is not ok. Let's just make very fucking sure we're clear on that fucking point.
>>97312983I'll tell my three current game groups they've not been playing with me every weekend for a combined length of eighteen years.
>>97314191Yes, tell your three groups of fat men gay men that you are nogames.
>>97312752Based and truth-pilled except>Treat them equallyNever treat anyone equally.
>>97314478Dude.Tabletop Gaming is a male space.The mere fact of that is a "problem" to the people running the industry.>Herf derf, we hate our own core audience>Wah, why won't you buy my slop!?
>>97314733More like faggot and stupid pilled>>97314807If you think that then you are too retarded to play tabletop games.
>>97316098>faggotry is when you aren't a feminist
>>97306217Shareholders want more profit. Join the indie scene, talk with your wallet, or just go do something else. Not like it's illegal to play Lamentations of the Flame Princess.
Most art in most books has gotten safer and safer over the years. Very few games do anything provocative or dark. Even re-releases or revamps of older things get new art that wipes away anything with a little edge or focused autism. Savage worlds, symbaroum, the alien rpg, D&D, etc. all kind of suffer since their art or writing has become blander over time.
>>97316452Your posts are faggotry. You faggot.
>>97316648>faggotry is when you post that you aren't a feminist
>>97306071>>97306217>>97305778
>>97316690Enough about your love of cock.
>>97316487Besides the fact retards like >>97314807 are not smart enough to play tabletop games people whining in this thread are not looking for solution, they just want to bitch about the hobby having people they don't like in it.
>>97302765Traditional games?