fuckers raved about pathfindermy players tried it outthey fucking hated itthank GOD
>>97304369>run shit game>blame systemogeywhat didn't they like about it, what did you do, for how long, which edition?shit thread
>>97304369Pathfinder is just fucking 3.75 Edition D&D, how could anyone get blindsided by it?
>>97305224said it solved all of 5e's problems, streamlined them, more interesting builds (this is all before they had ever played it fyi)then they played it and all they could say was it went over their heads
>>97305386>Pathfinder>Solved all of 5e's problems>Streamlined themWhat lunacy prompted them to say this?
>>97305386Both PF1 and PF2 have serious problems, but if your players main complaints about either one is that it went over their heads, then your players are exactly the sort of perpetually entry level brainlets that 5e caters towards.
>>97304369Pathfinder is a fucking awful system. For people too pretentious for 5e but too retarded for anything that’s not d20 based. A true anomaly that is only popular because of how much WoTC fumbled the ball with 4e. And yes perhaps the 4e murder suicide helped too.
>>97305386Your argument is that it's bad because you and your retard friends are literally too stupid to learn the rules.
>>97305386>said it solved all of 5e's problemsPF2E is better than 5e, but that's a very low bar.If your group is too stupid to understand it there's a lot of simple RPGs that are well done. You can avoid the problems of 5e and not have to do 1+1.
>>97305386Well, I think the real problem is that your players are functionally retarded. That's not PF2's fault. They wanted an even simpler 5e and then got angry when the game was more complex.
>>97305386Bootstraps of Elvenkind Bill you are a liar, and you will spend an eternity on OSR hell.
>>97305386>said it solved all of 5e's problems, streamlined them, more interesting buildsKek, and they said this before they played it? Maybe all the people who shit on 5e really are nogames.
>>97305386>my players are mentally retarded>YAYIFICATIONS!!!I think OP might just need a carer
>>97307095OP and his players are 5slop enthusiasts just like you thoughbeit
>>97309910>OSR too simple>Pathfinder too hard>5e just rightNerds here don't understand that for the average person is just the right amount of complexity. I would however encourage you to open your group to other systems, maybe not high fantasy related so that they feel the mechanics as different as the tone of the game, maybe something Sci Fi related
>>97304369>Look into Pathinder>It's functionally just D&D with minuscule changes>90% of things that make D&D shit are still in thereLiterally who is this for other than autistic grogs who are mad at the direction nuD&D took, but for some reason just refuse to play older editions?
>>97304369I feel like being too dumb to play the other dnd isn't exactly brag worthy but I guess there's a reason why you'll never move on from 5e
>>97307095if it helps they said the same thing with daggerheart. one trainwreck of a game later and they've never brought it up again>>97309968dont worry anon, I'm running traveller the next time we play
>>97305400dnd youtbers? critical role? they watch that
>>97310018>>It's functionally just D&D with minuscule changesPF1E or PF2E?PF2E has differences, although still obviously D&D esque.PF1E is just a continuation and of 3.5 with a few things streamlined and improved. It came for 3.5 players so the 3.5 module company could keep making modules
>>97304369You're a shitty GM and you used 2nd edition, didn't you.Yes. You are and you did. Glad we got that sorted out.Bye, Felicia.
>>97309968What complexity? I've seen more complex door knobs.
>I couldn't understand it. It must suck.
