Why the fuck would you play OSR? Every edition is an improvement on the previous--that's why they make new editions, to refine and better their content. Is it just nostalgia? Are they mentally impaired or senile? What the fuck is wrong with OSR "fans"?
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement on the previous--that's why they make new editions
Get better bait.
>>97312139
the rulebooks are just slimmer and easier to read....
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement on the previousLol shadowrun would like to have a word with you.
>>97312139I'm not a fan of OSR, but it's not any kind of a general truth that games get better with new editions. It's not even clear what 'better' is supposed to mean. TTRPGs aren't technology, and they're all about the subjective experience at individual tables rather than any kind of objectively measurable performance. Some people prefer the subjective experience they get out of OSR type games to what they get out of more modern games. That's all there is to it.
Get better stealth marketing for new books, WotC.
>>97314647>troon coloredhmm
>>97312139also, the rules are simpler, more streamlinedand it's just waaay cheaper for an equal/superior amount of fun: you're not bound to a corporate-ish game company and trapped in sunken cost ($$$) fallacyand OST art is just more based (pic very much related)>>97314834sweetie, calm your mantits down, those are just flowers, nothing soospicious about it uwu
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement on the previous--that's why they make new editions,
>>97312139That was true up to 2E. 3E is, however, a completely different game with a D&D skin. Then it happened again with 4E. Then it happened another time with 5E.
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement on the previous
>>97312139It's your typical low IQ "OLD GOOD NEW BAD" faggots who haven't actually engaged with the new, they're just too autistic to handle change.
>>97319961But older was better, newbie.
>>97314647I'm reading the AD&D PHB right now and Gygax had some severe ADD problems while writing it, including making forward references to 90 pages further to a subsection that doesn't even bear the referenced name, constantly switching between mechanics and fluff, referring you to books you're not supposed to have access to and requiring you to use non-standard dice like a d16 that weren't even invented yet.
>>97312139Correct! OSR is fucking useless shit. Just play the original games as they are. The OSR is a useless relic of a time that no longer is.
>>97312139osr is just d&d for school shooters and incels.
>>97320964>>97321079Why are you so hurt and autistic?
>>97321599I can play the original first edition just fine. I don't need your inferior grift.
>>97321610But that's OSR too. Marge moment.
>>97321612OSR are games inspired by the original games.
If OSR is so bad, why the fuck do later 'editions' use the famous name of the original game? If they are so better, they would each rely on their own merits, not surfing on the fame of the original.
>>97312139Because the people writing today are illiterate?
>>97312139I'm not even sure what OSR is supposed to be at this point.I mean, someone people would say it's about 80's style dungeon crawling with minimal RP and characters who are avatars for exploring/looting at not characters you're acting out. But with other games(Mork Borg etc) just having gritty black and white art is apparently enough?
>>97312139The best edition is always the one just before the current one. We're on 5.5E now, so clearly the best edition is 4.5E
>>97321662If OSR is so good why are there like 3 different flavors of OSR general each filled with people who think their flavor is the TRVE SVPERIOR version of OSR?:
>>97320306It really wasn't. I know I'm older than you, and I can tell you that things were objectively worse in the past. We had more disease, more murder, more pollution. Objectively speaking, the current world is better than the old.Also, yeah, there's been a ton of rules innovations since the creation of RPGs as a concept. Gold as XP is a dogshit method of progression, for example. You didn't have adventures in the old days, you went through dungeons for loot over and over with no greater purpose than getting more loot to get more hirelings to get more loot to get more levels to get more loot etc.
>>97322815Essentials?
>>97324183>We had more disease, more murder, more pollution.We could afford our own fucking houses.
>>97324183>Gold as XP is a dogshit method of progressionthis is completely untrue, it's awesome
>>97324078There's one real general, and then a troll the general has had for 3+ years that simply will not fuck off. His latest solution is running to set up his own osrg but it's all caps you see so its totally different and also it doesn't have hookers and blackjack. Currently osrg regulars are trolling the shit out of it take out multiple years of frustrations over having to endure this shithead while the mods let him do whatever he wanted (to their credit, they slap him down now any time he strays into the real osrg, so it's just comedy and venting now).
>>97319961I think the OSR is largely bullshit because the communities it rose out of were genuinely fucking awful and none of them could ever actually agree if the point was to recapture the magic of D&D as it used to be, hyperfocus on how to make super board game-y dungeon crawls, or to slice the rules down to the barest elements so the only way to play the game is just to play 20 questions with the DM over every minor interaction.However, as someone who is constantly looking for new RPGs, I find that a ton of shit getting made today does fucking suck. There's so much hipster assclown garbage out there and so many others that are just trying to be video games. I can understand how a certain kind of personality would recoil from the fagginess of modern games and believe that the old ways were better, even if they've just got thick nostalgia goggles on and they are obsessing over OSR stuff because it's the "OLD GOOD" category of games.
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement on the previous--that's why they make new editions, to refine and better their content.
>>97312139The only reason I play OSR is that the only other person willing to DM in my group has a boner for OSR. God, I'd stab someone to be able to play 3.5 again...
>>97312139I wouldn't say that4e > BECMI/RC > 2e > BX > 5e > 1e > Basic > 3e/3.5 > Original
>>97326904All completely different games and should not be compared to each other.
>>97322702I am not sure what you intend to prove with this screencap, but it's an asshole move to mock that man
>>97314891>also, the rules are simplerNot a good thing.>more streamlined5e does it better.>and it's just waaay cheaperIt costs 0$ to play 5e.>you're not bound to a corporate-ish game companyYes you are, OSR is as grifty as it gets and everything third party are made by insane sexpests who, worst of all, have no skills.>and OST art it's 5e art now because I'm using it in my 5e campaign.
>>97312139>Every edition is an improvement on the previous--that's why they make new editionsI need you to look at 3.5, 4e and 5e as a linear sequence of games and tell me that every change made was an improvement going from game to game.
>>97312139you play OSR if you have a specific crippling form of social autism or are old. That seems to be it.My own interactions with them have either been: A. God awful games ran through a rose-tinted "This is how we've always done it" tilt with a GM and 1-2 players who all don't really like eachother, but were desperate after being the only ones from their original groups to never stop playing tabletop.orB. Some autist insisting that a specific OSR system would be perfect for what I want, and upon telling him "Thanks but I don't find what you've given me fitting mechanically/narratively" they sperg and seethe non-stop.I don't know why the B group specifically latches on to some of the laziest systems ever made though.
>>97324931It's completely true*Gold as XP is lazy nonsense from poorly designed rule systems. A good system just lets people spend time and money on training.
>>973298624e was kind of a sidegrade but otherwise yeah they are objective improvements.
>>97329951Fuck no.
>>97329981Fuck yes.
>>97312139I think you might be genuinely retarded if you think every edition of D&D is a strict improvement on the previous one.
>>97312139>Why the fuck would you play OSR?Fun./thread
>>97318718>That was true up to 2E.Not even a fucking chance bozo
>>97314834Your pattern recognition has failed you, you would not have survived 600 years ago, let alone 6000. Genetic dead-end propped up by the modern age.Anyway OP, suggesting that newer editions are always or even generally improvements over the previous version is ignoring the entire concept of enshittification. You should kill yourself!
>>97322702>Phoneposter has dogshit opinions>Phoneposter is too stupid to block ads
>>97330020You're allowed to dislike to 2E changes, but it is the height of faggotry to pretend like the development from 0E to 2E isn't a linear progression of the same game system.
>>97326904finna pukeola at these rankings
I love how you retards can't help yourselves from replying to obvious bait and this thread will be up for weeks instead of immediately falling off the board like it should.
>>97330040That screencap is ancient. Those ads don't even exist anymore.
>>97330711LBB, BX, and 1e advanced are all very different games. Also 2e is dogshit and that is an objective fact
>>97330968Oh, you've never played anything but /osrg/ reconstructionism. I'm sorry for your parents loss.
