How would you make barbarians more interesting than just having them be blind rage berserker guys?
Well when they're actually raging, it probably should be blind rage. Outside of that, they could be the complete opposite of angry. I had a player with a 200 year old dwarven barbarian who was effectively the mentor/father figure of a party composed of a little orphan elemental girl, a half elf thief with mommy issues, and a town guard who needed a good sparring partner.
I'd start by permabanning Puckee and his AI slop commissions.
>>97315716I have a perfect system for that but I don't want to give it to WotC for free.
Steal historical examples of "barbarians and change a few details.
>>97315716Most real barbarians/savages are more versatile, like Rangers, because they have to use their environment, so that’s probably what I’d do
>>97315716 Give them a culture other than MEH SLASH WITH BIG AXE.
Make them mongols.
>how do we change [well-loved thing] to subvert expectations?
>puckee thread
>>973157161st ed aD&D had some good ideas in Unearthed Arcana.Minimum stats needed (Str, Con, Dex)Stealth skillsOutdoor survival skillsSome tracking and trap setting skillsClimbing and leaping skillsSlight chance of detecting magic, plus a supersticious fear/hatred of magic use and items.Primitive weapon and armour use.Culture/tribe specific skills, such as riding. running, boat handling, etcAt high levels, has the ability to raise up a horde of barbarians for raids.
>>97315854>if everything isn't completely one-note, I can't understand it and it makes me uncomfortable>>97315737This is a good answer.
>iNtErEsTiNgWho am I trying to interest in this hypothetical?
>>97316007>"when they're not raging, they're not enraged">OP thinks this is a brilliant and complex example of fresh writing
>>97316049You shouldn't be so quick to reveal to everyone that you can only understand skin-deep concepts.
>>97315767Castles & Crusades does this.
>>97315854it's a fighter that can't wear armor and hits harder temporarily, get your head out of your ass
It depends on who I'm trying to interest, because different people have different interests.
>>97315716Make it not a normal rage, but a tard escape-from-tard-wrangler type rage, where not getting hit or hitting every round just tires the tard and he drops back to baseline retard.Now make him talk like someone from /pol/ or /mlp/. Add Reddit. Give him a katana. Make him a highschool dropout. Make him extremely gay.Now you have an OP barbarian, just in a different "OP" way.
>>97316151you're the one with your head up your ass. It's a class in a tabletop combat game, and it specifically targets players who just want to hit stuff. Barbarian doesn't need to be shaken to its foundations in pursuit of some lofty design goal.
>>97315716HYTNPDND
>>97315716This looks like shit
>>97315716Work on your art, puckee.
>>97315716>all-female class>unable to wear more than a bikini (leather/fur/scale/plate all possible)>power of all special abilities contingent on sucking dick
>>97315716>How would you make barbarians more interesting than just having them be blind rage berserker guys?By making Barbarians a culture/race rather than a class. Berserker, Ranger, Shaman, Druid and witch should be the classes generally associated with this culture/race.>>97316216The class would benefit a lot from the removal of the barbarian cultural stuff. Bloodthirsty samurai, armored knights that don't care who is in reach of their blades and pugilists that rip apart their opponents should all fall into the class as much as the frothing mad bearskin wearing northerner with a two handed axe.
>>97315716>How would you make barbarians more interesting than just having them be blind rage berserker guys?I wouldn't.Rage is what we associate with Barbarians in gaming. Different for the sake of different sucks. If you don't have a reason to change Barbarians except "to make them interesting?" Don't fucking change them. Changes aren't interesting in and of themselves. They're just you putting work on other people for no purpose. You should fuck off.
>>97317416>The class would benefit a lot from the removal of the barbarian cultural stuff. Bloodthirsty samurai, armored knights that don't care who is in reach of their blades and pugilists that rip apart their opponents should all fall into the class as much as the frothing mad bearskin wearing northerner with a two handed axe.you're not wrong, but if you de-contextualized every class in 5E then it wouldn't really be 5E anymore, and at that point you might as well just play a better fantasy system
>>97315716Barbarians need battle cries to be just as much an intrinsic part of their kit as Raging is, for both inspiring allies and bringing dread to their enemies.
>>97315744 >>97315862 >>97317082 >>97317199>wake up>shit>eat>post puckee image on /tg/>start samefagging>get out of bedThis is your morning routine
>>97317531>you're not wrong, but if you de-contextualized every class in 5E then it wouldn't really be 5E anymore, and at that point you might as well just play a better fantasy systemEvery other class is already decontextualized in D&D. Only the barbarian retains it's cultural context for some stupid reason. The paladin is no longer the idealized "shining knight," clerics are not locked to bludgeoning weapons, the ranger devolved from non-Aragorn into a two weapon fighting wilderness warrior, the bard went from a fighter/thief/druid prestige class to magical musician joats, warlocks suffer no risks from making pacts with dangerous entities, etc. Saying that replacing Barbarians with Berserkers would stop the game from being D&D showcases a massive lack of understanding of D&D.
Op, the pic you posted looks exactly like a "blind rage berserker guy".
>>97315716People can roleplay a barbarian however they want, and the rage doesn't need fixing because it's cool and has been since Cu Chulainn did it in ancient times. You're making a problem where there isn't one.
>>97315716>puckee spamming his commission againhttps://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1asljbu/art_comm_agarian_warrior_by_pedro_silva/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/hzEJ4gtiMhFPMlGOcTas7Q/>21 times
>>97317815Woah, really? Never would've thought since no one else pointed it out in this thread.
>>97317667>Every other class is already decontextualized in D&Dno they fucking aren't, lol. you're retarded>paladins are magic warriors who gain supernatural power from an oath (implies magical oaths in the setting which can be invoked under seemingly abstract circumstances - words alone have power?)>warlocks are mages who gain power from a deal made with some supernatural outsider (implies supernatural outsiders who commune and make deals with mortals in the setting)>clerics are guys who straight-up wield the power of an god (implies pantheonic deities in the setting which directly intervene in the affairs of mortals)>druids are mages who gain power from nature (not just implies, but directly requires the existence of cultural institutions known as druid circles)>bards are mages who gain power as an intrinsic quality of music and lore (etc etc etc)almost every class in 5E carries massive implications for the setting. it's one reason why that entire system sucks ass
>>97315716Barbarians should be savage light skinned warriors who work under a dark lord seeking the downfall of greater civilizations led by wise kings and queens of prestigious lineages and darker complexions
>>97315716How would you make wizards more interesting than just having them be cast arcane magic guys?
>>97315716Well the first thing you should do is remember that "berserker" is a type of warrior. "Barbarian" is a xenophobic social stereotype ascribed to a foreign culture.
>>97318373That's an inapplicable comparison, because "wizard" is not a culture. It's a vocation.
>>97315716I would just play Conan 2d20.
>>97315716I would have them kill and behead Pucks.
>>97315716females, big tits and asses, less clothed than pic related, maybe more tan toointerested or you are homo?
>>97315716First, you remove the explicit implication that all barbarians are loincloth wearing retards.Second, you decouple "rage" from being tied exclusively to some power or specific identity. Rage is rage no matter what causes it.Third, you open the floor for different flavored Prc/Subclasses. Perhaps your rage is just because your a homocidal monster who enjoys being in the blender. Perhaps you're rage is a result of a supernatural affliction. Perhaps you're literally possessed and the rage is whatever that thing is trying to assert control.But hey, at least being illiterate is no longer a class ability.
>>97317963If you quit spamming your slop, people wouldn't point it out.
>>97318373-> >>97316161
>>97315744This.
>>97315853kinda like OP?
>>97315716make them brood from time to time, and reflect on existential topics
>>97320817Thoughtful barbarian?
>>97320840Conan used to do that from time to time, and Robert E. Howard had quite the existential vein...Conan reflected on the nature of power, of death, of desire, of violence, etc...
>>97315716Traditional games?
>>97315716This looks like shit.
>>97315716>ai image>ai prompt
>>97317282So base Barbarians on you?
