>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/They used to be split between the website and the discord, but no more. For posterity's sake, the old mega will still be kept active even if it's unlikely to need updating: https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc>Trench Companion, awesome warband builder and campaign trackerhttps://trench-companion.com/>Previous Thread:>>97256189>Thread QuestionTaking bets on next plastic kit. Naval Raiders? Ghosts? What do you expect and what do you hope to see?
>TQI don’t see how it would be anything but Naval Raiders. There are so few decent third party sculpts and they’re a bit OP. Also +1 to Anon in last thread asking about Carcass Front. My gut feeling is that it’s the missing piece to take the game from its current state to Mordheim-style cult status.
>>97325305I wonder how varied they plan to to make the crusader knights, going by the way the explain it they're allowed near heretical beliefs as long as they're useful, what'd that entail?
>>97325305Miss the regular lore dumps on their site
>>97325305>TQ There's no way its not naval riders. They're far too popular for the Hetertic Factions. I'd say they're on par for the "looks" that the New Antioch has over Trench. Also bros. There's so much hate threads, I'm out of the loop why are people batshit angry at Trench Crusade? I know that people didn't get their items yet, and their stance on lack of STL/3d printing is really bullshit. But that can be fixed. Why is everyone screaming its the end of the world?
>>97326400Because people don't appreciate a rug pull
>>97326410>Rugpull The only thing I'm upset about is the whole lack of STL and Print stance they took for whatever reason. Really hurts to know they took that away from the core of the culture, even then. I don't think anyone in the community will truly follow through. I'm not going to stop printing my army, I'll be damned if I allow a game I enjoy to be slapped like a wet cock on a table. Im gonna do what I wanna do and they frankly cannot stop me.People are pussies thinking any sort of company has a sway on what you can and cannot do. What they're not gonna let me play in official games? Oh well.
>>97325305>>97325385>>97326400I hope it's NOT naval raiders because i'm currently building a raiders warband and it would suck to have beautiful plastics come out after i'm done spending hours on a kitbashIt absolutely has to be a heretic warband so my vote is for ghosts>>97326460As far as i'm concerned, every single faction now has beautiful STLs from factory fortress themselves that cover pretty much every unitAt that point they've fulfilled their obligations to printers imo, they can print the whole gameVariants only in plastic is not preventing anyone from playing the gameAnd honestly? At this point if we want the game to grow there's no other realistic optionIf you want the game to grow you need to occupy space on shelves, game stores often don't allow games that they don't sell and it's the best way to hook new players inI know for a fact that most stores won't want to carry your product if you sell the exact same miniatures as STLs onlineIt kinda sucks but they don't have that many more options
>>97326400It’s just 2-3 dedicated trolls. What they lack in numbers they make up with volume, frequency and retardation.
>>97326565they think if they trash the game hard enough Arch is going to teach them how to fake an accent like he does
>>97326558>my vote is for ghostsWestfalia/Trench Stench is in the process of dropping a fantastic line of ghosts on myminifactory, and they have a close relationship with FF (see: Red Brigade). I have no doubt we’ll see official Ghost plastics sooner or later but I would not be at all surprised if they’re the Westfalia ones just made into plastics. I definitely think Naval Raiders will be the next plastics, with a minor chance of Mammons.
>>97326585>I definitely think Naval Raiders will be the next plastics, with a minor chance of Mammons.I have to ask, do you mean the Warlock model or the overall army aspects? (not OP)
I want it to be naval raiders so fucking badlyI purposely held off on them
>>97326558Yeah Mr Rugpull is one of the regular spastics infesting every thread pretending to be a dissatisfied customer. Just ignore him until his wanking hand cramps up and he waddles off to scream at his mother for pizza rolls and Mountain Dew.Addressing his standard arguments in advance:>wahh wahh their plastics are at GW pricingIt's slightly more expensive than GW which is understandable as the smaller customer base and lower purchase rates mean that costs are higher per box.>wahh wahh it's too expensive'Expensive' is relative. Some GW character models cost as much as this entire box. Plus you only need, at most, 2 of these boxes of plastics to make a warband, which is a lot cheaper overall than the 6-8 boxes plus vehicles and characters you need for crap like 40K.>wahh wahh I can't afford itKitbash, proxy or get a print on demand service to make you one of the dozens of alternative STL options.>wahh wahh they're just being greedyThe kit is 100% optional and nobody's being forced to buy it.›wahh wahh it's a rugpull and a betrayal of the 3D printing promise they madeNowhere did they promise the entire range going forward would all be released as STLs, and I challenge anyone to prove they did.
>>97326615Have you seen some of the kits on myminifactory? I've been REALLY tempted to pick up some of their models.
>>97326614The Warlock definitely (eventually) as they DMCA’ed a guy who made a 1:1 Mammon Warlock of Franchina’s art. I could see them doing basic multipart plastics with expansion frames for greebles and weapons, so your guys have 6-8 bodies per box and you get a frame of heads, arms, weapons and stuff specific to the warband, as well as 1-2 unique leader models.This would be the smart way to do it as you only need dies for the special stuff, keeping costs per box way down. Wait and see if they do it though. It would also allow them to sell ‘upgrade sprues’ and character sprues separately.
>>97326648i've seen a few but not any that quite fit what i have in mind
>>97326648Yes, and I've held firm so farDon't tempt me damn it
>>97326673>The Warlock definitelyIs it bad to say I really hope we get more units that are based around the Demon Princes/Kings? I think it could be super fun to have more units based around that stuff. Sucks they DCMA'd the dude tho. Art is fantastic. >>97326695How Anon, they look sick as FUCK>>97326705Whats stopping u
>>97326767idk the proportions make them look like toys to me>inb4 but anon they ARE toys
>>97326775>idk the proportions make them look like toys to meI'd say it's far less that they look like toys and more in the clunky nature that they would have at the time. You have to understand in 1907 one of the MOST advanced suits looked like a fucking nutcase. >Pic Even so. I can also understand ur plight. Maybe I'm bias since I like old school diver stuff. https://cyberneticzoo.com/underwater-robotics/1902-7-iron-man-diving-apparatus-capt-enos-b-petrie-american/
>>97326807I'm a retard and didnt post
>>97326807Maybe it's more historically accurate but it's not really something that speaks to meI'm more imagining something akin to the solar auxiliabefore you lynch me, it's because naval raiders are supposed to be the FAST heretic factionThey go in lightning raids in their diving suits So I want something half sleek half clunky
>>97326841>before you lynch me, it's because naval raiders are supposed to be the FAST heretic factionAnon anyone who lynches u for having an enjoyment out of models not from the direct game is a retard. Have you thought of maybe just kitbashing them into it? I certainly am looking into now, call it inspiration you've given me.
>>97326847I'm kitbashing them right now, inspired by this picI'm just explaining why i don't like those specific files you showed
why do people hate this game and say it failed to be an alternative to 40k?
>>97326873https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqqNH1jgfYIts just another kikestarter scam, just with better concept art
>>97326873they hate it because youtubers told them tothe game never marketed itself as an alternative to 40k, youtubers called it that because they call every newly popular game an alternative to 40kin short, youtubers are retards and ruin everything
>>97326863Let me know how it goes anon, I'm excited to see it.
>>97326873A small but vocal minority hate the game for various reasons. Some hate it because it’s ‘woke’ (banned so-called ‘far-right’ people from the Discord), some hate it because it has a Muslim faction, some because they don’t like background/lore, some for religious reasons, some because they’re worried it’ll steal air from other games, some because they got bad quality models, take your pick. End of the day, haters gonna hate. I can’t say that mass banning people for politics is a good look but at the same time I also acknowledge that the lore etc they have put out isn’t especially woke, so I don’t blame them for wanting to prevent the Junior Nazis of America and the Obese Transgender Parrot-Hair League turning every thread into a warzone. I guess the best way to approach it all is to play the game, have fun, and just ignore the retards who are just here to stir up shit who don’t even play the game.
>>97326400>ANOTHER spam dash and grenades and smg's subfactionIt's all so tiresome
How do you avoid feeling doomer about whats going on with trench crusade right nowNot FF, I mean the drama and constant grifting around it. Its so annoying and demoralizing
>>97325385>There are so few decent third party sculpts and they’re a bit OP.ahemcrimsonsteelmechworkslove those big guys.
>>97326400>There's no way its not naval ridersI could see them going with Sultanate first, since those tend to be the hardest to kitbash due to the lack of fantasy/sci-fi arab plastic parts. Naval Raiders would be right after them, though.
>>97327152It's demoralizing, but the trolls will get bored eventually as long as they don't get attention, so we just need to talk about the game and ignore 'em. Which is frustrating because there was a guy spewing literal libel in the terrain thread. Play games and enjoy it, fuck em.
>>97327152>How do you avoidThey tend to use buzzwords. Use the filter.>Its so annoying and demoralizingLiterally just don't care. You're having fun modeling, painting, playing, and learning TC lore, and retards can't have an effect on you if you just dismiss their retard opinions.
>>97326400>I'm out of the loop why are people batshit angry at Trench Crusade?Honestly i'm mostly just mad at the people here, it's like pulling teeth for them to admit any issue with the company.It's like i'm dealing with starcitizen fansI like the game, but like if i point out>resin traps in minis>fulfillment issues>my issues with the 3d printingi'm instantly a fucking archfan/bot/troll/ragebaiter.>But that can be fixed.i agree, i want to see that.It's been a year of resin traps,Instead of say fucking diving in and fixing that or perhaps making sure that wasn't there in the first place there are still traps and that's the thing that chaps my ass.This is headed by professionals but like i can get better support at times from indie creators i follow.I'm not a fucking arch fan for grumbling over it.
>>97326565>with volume, frequency and retardation.No you dense mother fucker, it's because you people don't have anything to combat it.No minis, barely any rules discussion, the only thing things happen here is when someone is chimping out.Not even homebrew or alternative forces.you know what i'd kill for, a native warband in america, devils exist there, christians landed. how fucking cool would it be to have an under-equipped native warband.Make it unique instead of another (a fucking nother) new antiochI'd want to sit down and look at the culture and see what i could whip up but i really like the idea of it.problem is there's like 5 rifle armed native models and i think they're all perry.scale is an issue.
>>97327223You got scammed, nobody here actually plays the game, they just shill it.
>>97327223Why the fuck is it that every concern troll or troll in general really really wants America, thats all they ever talk about when expanding the factions. Who gives a fuck about America and what theyre doing Im tired of hearing about them or what Potential they have
>>97327262Is it so wrong to have a Euro focused game for a Euro focused conflict without inserting America into it to be le saving grace, Heretics control the sea anyways how would America do anything
>>97327262>Why the fuck is it that every concern troll or troll in general really really wants AmericaIt's an easy vector to get to the Aztec stuff. That's it.
>>97327262>concern trollThis is why i hate you people r.Like you're stupid, uncreative and deserve this general.Do you think a concern troll is going to know who manufactures native riflemen and their scale off hand? for this fucking thread?This is a uncovered part of the setting so I HAVE ample ability to be creative while it's not settled.but instead of trying to bounce off me, you're just like "who gives a fuck"I do,I think it's really fucking cool, native demon hunters on the edge of civilization, fighting against pagan kin and demons.I'd need to bury myself into native myth for a while to figure out what to do with it but right now, it's just hard to get native models unless you want the oversized dystopian wars weird west ones.>>97327289>euro focuseddude, like the fluff literally discusses that, Spain is holding it's new world trading routes.this is just creative thinking.all of this thread sucks.you go into the other generals there's baiting but there's something lively.we have no battlereports.no minis being posted,no nothing.
>>97327321Leave then.
>>97327141just took a quick one with my webcam haha :P>>97327032my brother if it's not a spam grenade dash SMG it's spam grenade dash clubthat's what all factions evolve into late campaign
>>97327325>leaveI do regularly. I check back every couple months to find this place a waste and my contempt for you people growing every time.
>>97327321GTFO esl ragebaiter, maybe take some meds
>>97327346Leave now.
>>97327346Why would I care about the opinion or thoughts of someone who holds contempt for TC and its community in his heart, your opinion holds zero weight
>>97327170Nah you need to get the posterboys firstAfter Timmy buys his New Antioch box, Jimmy needs a bad guys box so they can play together
>>97327361I hope its a court one, they get no love compared to the other factions
>>97327360it's okay anon, the thread will go back to normal once arch anf fagovich find their next low hanging fruit dramaprobably will throw a shitfit that there's brown people in infinity and that CB took a year to fulfill their kickstarters
>>97327032>ANOTHER spam dash and grenades and smg's subfactionI'm hoping the blast meta gets gutted soon. Grenades are nice but I like more action than just having grenades tossed at me like a monkey. >How do you avoid feeling doomer about whats going on with trench crusade right nowThe truth is to find enjoyment in the things that they have done right. There's a ton of communities that have drama, Trench Crusade is a lot smaller than most of those big places. So the stuff that is fucked up (as them ending STL support is scummy) and their late delays on ordered content is entirely valid. Even if there's some bumps, it doesn't mean the game is burning actively. We're just seeing disgruntled people. Again people have a right to be upset, I would be too if I was in their place.
>>97327401Ending STL support is a bit disingenuous imoThe STLs are all there for every unit of every faction and will always be easily available Factory fortress is supporting indie creators as long as they ask firstGenuinely why does it matter whether you get your files from FFI or from somewhere else Releasing plastics is necessary to grow the game and they can't do that if they make the models available as STLs
It does kinda suck how outdated the KS rulebook is going to be in a few months with all the nerfs/buffs the game needs
>>97327346>>97327347>>97327360 (it's not the community, it's you people here)See this is what i'm getting at.and look, full circle >>97327387 i am an arch fan now apparently.the problem, the precise problem i have with you people is you chose to be this way.I point out the problems here, i'm a concern troll, then a rage baiter, then arch fan.you know what, fine,Prove me wrong, post projects, talk about your latest game, post something?Shucks mister, it'd sure be hard to concern troll over this topic if someone discussed something interesting.I tried bringing up native warbands, but apparently that's something only fucking arch fans do.But i'll continue. The problem with it conceptually is what to do with it.It overlaps as an idea with the irish.I want to heavily limit the amount of things they have access to, and replace it with something else and i don't want it to be a new antioch clone.I'm thinking about making it partially mounted because we don't really see a force like that. 1. warleader who can take a horse2. a priest3. skin walker ( a play on the christan warwolves) kinda a melee brusierand maybe like a support hero shaman.basic infantry would be 0/0 with ready access to skirmisher Anything that aren't basic rifles for guns are basically glory locked.
>>97327431You must be new to tabletop games
>>97327424>Factory fortress is supporting indie creators as long as they ask firsthave they actually gone about that yet?>Genuinely why does it matter whether you get your files from FFI maybe i want to print out bits myself.>releasing plastics is building the game but they can't do that if they make STLyeah sure plastics is fine but why do you think STLs just rape their bottom line.the amount of people who can print is tiny comparatively and many prefer plastic.
>>97327439>pick up rulebook from fucking 20 years ago.nice, everything's still here and not changed.
>>97327424>Releasing plastics is necessary to grow the game and they can't do that if they make the models available as STLsI truly without a doubt understand this. They have to reach out so that their content can grow. I just worry that they will never release it again on print. Their models can be amazingly well done. I enjoy supporting stuff like that. Indie too. Which I - still believe Trench Crusade would be considered. Maybe not.
>>97327444>have they actually gone about that yet?Yes, multiple times>maybe i want to print out bits myselfYou can't print out your own bits if you buy your files from a third party creator?>yeah sure plastics is fine but why do you think STLs just rape their bottom lineStores WILL NOT carry miniatures that you can buy STLs forAnd following that the majority of stores will not organize events and promote games they don't carryA lot of them don't even allow you to play games they don't carry
>>97327451Were you frozen 20 years ago?Most games now have their rulebooks outdated after a month or two It sucks but trench is hardly unique in this, not exactly fair criticism Either way it's either >Waaaah my rulebook is outdated Or>Waaaah they refuse to update their game
>>97327479Its not a big deal or anything it just sucks that the Rulebook ive been waiting so long for wont be that useful (then again I just use New Recruit)its mostly just a nice thing to have for KS buffs, and the Art inside, and hardcover
>>97327463>Yes, multiple timesI didn't know they formalized it, i know westfallia was there but not the full policy or who has been added>third party creator3rd party is an alternative mini line. if i NEED a torso or an arm or whatever i want to be able to just print the one.Westfallia for instance, how compatible are their bits with the normal heretics?>Stores WILL NOT carry miniatures that you can buy STLs forWestfallia sells their minis to stores.The game is mini-agnostic to start with which does matter.and honestly i'm just not buying this arguement, there's so many presuppositions that aren't really supported.
>>97327503Can't really argue that I'd just like to get a nice art and lore book separate from the rules like infinity does
>>97327511You clearly have no idea how the industry works and don't want to learn so I'll stop trying
Anons I wanna find a good themeatic model for a radio guy, not that it'd do anything in game I just think it'd be neat to have. Running a Trench Pilgrim army too. Any recommendations for Kitbashing/models?
>>97327538Depends, what models are you using for your warband?
>>97327547For the most part, my Pilgrims are the standard FF with a Pilgrim Warprophet and Communicate with the Pilgrim helmet. I enjoy the Iron Capirote.
>>97327565In that case you probably have an imperial guard player near you with plenty of radio packs to spare
>>97327587Yeah but I feel like those packs are too modern for it being in a 1914 timeline. U know?Also I can't find ANY good musician stuff either, nothing that doesn't look utter horrible next to my army.
>>97327594Having a radio guy of any sort is too modern for WW1, they used wired phones back then
>>97327638>Having a radio guy of any sort is too modern for WW1, they used wired phones back thenYou make a great point.What would be something that could be a good place in for that? Something could be used that way in Trench Crusade, I just don't know what. I'm a stickler for sticking to timeline aspects.
I've been gone for half a year. Has the story progressed much since then or are subfactions still getting added
>>97327717>Has the story progressedThis isn't 40k.
>>97327732Not OP but I do hope we can get some stories, like a book or two.
>>97327732https://youtu.be/qQU48q0eSzQ?si=70O63RbMIDnsJpnGIn this interview the lead lore writer said they would progress the story in events like the fall of cadia
>>97327824I wonder when Anons will write short stories. If they're good enough, I'll narrate them for fun. Gives me something to do while I'm not terribly busy.
>>97327824Once all the factions are out I would love for different clashes between them advancing the story. I wonder how accurately it mirrors actual WW1, or how big decisions will be made.Also would love a few books from different factions, give me a Path of the Best that has fun illustrations and cover art that looks like skin.>>97327863I wonder how far away we are from that popularity wise, I would guess we will get fan made stories within the next two faction releases
>>97327436The “problems’ you point out are nebulous at best and intentionally maliciously exaggerated at worst and have been addressed multiple times already. I think I speak for almost everyone in the thread when I say we’re tired of your schtick and your constant moronic repetition of non-points. Just fuck off.
>>97327703Someone carrying a reel of wire or a cage of pigeons.
When do you guys think we get some news on Carcass Front campaign book? The book and minis are now handled, with possible few exceptions.
>>97328430Maybe in half a year, depends on if they want to update the rules or release a new box alongside the book. I imagine they'd want to sell a few minis with the book.
>>97327436I don't really understand why people kept bringing up American warbands to the point it became a retard dogwhistle.>I want to heavily limit the amount of things they have access to, and replace it with something else and i don't want it to be a new antioch clone.I'm thinking about making it partially mounted becaubla bla bla bla bla bla blaTrench Crusade is a models agnostic game. Don't you think that if you're so brimming with genius ideas about how to design a faction, you could just make those models and then play the game using them? Or even design custom rules/play a different game with them? Why are your sperg opinions so precious that it makes the game objectively bad if they aren't followed?
I go inspired by a artwork in one of the MtG threads. How's this for a special bomb for the Artillery Witch? -- Mind Bomb --Cost: 2 GLORYMay use this instead of casting an Infernal Bomb.1-Handed, 24", BLAST 3", IGNORE COVER, IGNORE ELEVATED POSITION, IGNORE LONG RANGE, RELOAD, SCATTER.INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS: Add -1 DICE to the next Success Roll taken for enemy models that are hit by the blast.FROM MY MIND TO YOURS: If a model was the target for an Infernal Bomb and hit by it, or if the Mind Bomb scattered and the target point was on the model’s base, roll 3D6 and add all 3 dice together. Any +INJURY DICE or -INJURY DICE that applied to the Injury Roll will apply normally, except that you pick the 3 highest or lowest dice in the roll instead of the 2 highest or lowest. If the injury check is a Success or Critical success you may choose to only inflict a BLOOD MARKER then move the model D6". The move must be in a straight line, but can be in any direction, and can be used to make the model move with 1" of an enemy or retreat, and to Climb a sheer surface, Jump across a gap, or Jump Down. Injury Rolls for other models caught in the Infernal Bomb’s Blast are made normally.
>>97328614No, you don’t understand. Factory Fortress and Tuomas Pirinen are discriminating against the guy personally by not immediately releasing rules and lore supporting his headcanon.(In fact the topic of Native American warbands is verboten on the official message boards, because half the fags on there say you can’t make them without being racist/colonialist, and the other half say you have to make them or you’re being exclusionary and discriminatory)
>>97326873Game is decent, but pedophile trannies latched to it
>>97328749That's a really funny ideaOr maybe it leaves a marker on the ground with a -1 dice aura If a model gets direct hit, it becomes the marker
>>97329032Its more that the team sold out hard, speedran a corporatization of a passion project and allowed the game to be so sterilized that crazy terminally online people feel "safe" with spreading their politics.
>>97328749>>97329103updated and clarified it a bit. The idea is that you sacrifice 12" of range and SHRAPNEL but turn the Artillery Witch from a damage dealer to a control piece. -- Mind Bomb --Cost: 2 GLORYMay use this instead of casting an Infernal Bomb.1-Handed, 24", BLAST 3", IGNORE COVER, IGNORE ELEVATED POSITION, IGNORE LONG RANGE, RELOAD, SCATTER.INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS: Add -1 DICE to the next Success Roll taken for enemy models that are hit by the blast.FROM MY MIND TO YOURS: If a model was the target for an Mind Bomb and hit by it, or if the Mind Bomb scattered and the target point was on the model’s base, roll 3D6 and add all 3 dice together. Any +INJURY DICE or -INJURY DICE that applied to the Injury Roll will apply normally, except that you pick the 3 highest or lowest dice in the roll instead of the 2 highest or lowest. If the injury check is a Minor Hit result you may move the model D6" in addition to dealing 1 Blood Marker. The move must be in a straight line, but can be in any direction, and can be used to make the model move with 1" of an enemy or retreat, and to Climb a sheer surface, Jump across a gap, or Jump Down. If the injury roll is a Down or Out of Action result you may choose to, in addition to the effects for Minor Hit, inflict a 6" area around the model where all actions are considered RISKY until the Artillery Witch's next activation, after which the effect dissipates.Injury Rolls for other models caught in the Infernal Bomb’s Blast are made normally.
>>97329226Ironically I think it would fit better in new Antioch, they're the control factionOr maybe knights of avarice, the got fun similar tools
>>97329347The effects are sort of a mix of Heretic Priest's Puppet Master and the Chorister's -DICE aura
Now that the dust has settled, why did Trench Crusade flop?
>>97331159It didn't. Stop listening to youtube agitators looking for ragebait dollars
>>97331159People liked the idea of Trench Crusade, more than Trench Crusade itself.
>>97326893This. Exhibit A:>>97326884
The Youtuber cope is to distract you from the fact that they rugpulled printfags on top of making shitty prints.
>name's Januz. Januz Strakon>heretic legion line trooper>trench designation K-17, frozen north front>boots full of mud, soul full of sins>assigned to forward battery detail>she arrives at dusk>no footsteps>no breathing>just an armored shape in a shroud stitched with sigils that hurt to look at>she raises one hand>the sky tears open and screams with flame and shrapnel>enemy trench ceases to exist>weeks pass>start noticing things>she always stands closer to me than anyone else>even adjusts my helmet strap once>armored fingers cold as spent casings>try talking to her one day>feel stupid immediately>she responds with hand gestures>no one taught me this language>have no idea what she's saying
>>97331545>night bombardment>counterfire hits our position>wake up in crater that use to be our dugout>lungs full of mud and curses>she’s there>shroud torn to shreds>mud and someone's guts caked all over her armor>standing over me>calling down explosive death from the very hell itself>like a valkyrie of the old tales>later>offer her my rations>she doesn’t eat>but she makes a small motion>almost like a head tilt >and what my mind perceive as a smile behind her blank visage>if smiles were forbidden geometry that makes the back of your eyes itch
>>97331567>rumors spread>trooper’s gone soft in the head>trooper’s talking to the Witch>trooper’s marked by fate>i don’t care>when she gestures for me to follow, I do>when she points at the sky, I duck>when she rests her head against my shoulder>even the glare of the Hellgate feels comforting somehow>maybe she was made in Hell like they say>maybe she's nothing but a construct>a suit of armor filled with Hell's will>but somehow she chose me>and in this war>that’s the closest thing to companionship you can find
>>97325385the Carcass Front is going to be what makes or breaks TC IMO if its great then people will love TC and the gameplay can catch up to the lore and art in quality if its shit then TC will lose even more steam and i doubt the band waggoneers will be able to keep the momentum up really their biggest stumble is not releasing their books at the same time im kind of hoping Carcass Front does well so we get more campaigns and things like old warhammer where players felt invested in the building world
>>97326155i mean it seems pretty obvious to me its TC space marines/ custodes genetically enhanced troops as a baseline in smaller numbers with a bigger unit to handle other factions bigger unit, like war wolves or praetorsmaybe a smaller "squire" or "serf" unit to fill in the lack of troop numbers
>>97331390bingo The thing that annoys me is that people complain about people wanting it to not be euro centric but then also complain when people argue against making it a "every religion is correct" game pick a lane do you want it focused or not
>22nd earliest delivery begins on books in NA>could be late Feb you get themFACTORY FORTRESSSSILL HAVE YOUR ASS ON A STAKE FOR THIS
>>97331574>i hope you get domed by a sniper priest
>>97331545>>97331567>>97331574Heretic Yuri nice But when’s the Holy Yuri between a Female Heavy Mechanized and a Yeoman
>>97331706Not only is it that every religion can fight Abrahamic demons but they're too pussy to go all in on the animism/pagan religions that would have been active during the time period because you can't make certain cultures look badass (savage).
>>97327863>'Twas a cold and dreary night in the trenches, and the only sounds were those of faithful soldiers enjoying mouldy hardtack and fly-infested bratwürst.>Suddenly, the watchman rushed in, covered in blood, shit and mud. Everyone was covered in blood, shit and mud, but the watchman a little more than the rest.>"What news, brother Auguramus? Is it the demons?">"No, brother Hans" replied the watchman. "Yuo are the demons.">And then Hans was beaten to death by fifteen shovels.Happy new year, anon.
>>97329226The problem with this is that nobody would need a Chorister any more. I like the idea but I think it could only balance if it was ‘either/or’, so whichever your first cast was, that’s what you use for the rest of the game.
>>97332143Yeah maybe make it a replacement/upgrade for the regular Infernal Bomb instead of an option.
>>97331390yes and noa lot of "influencers" marketed TC as "New 40k!" "is this the death of warhammer?" "This new game is warhammer but good?"Trench crusade was never that and never tried to be that, FFI never marketed it as thatTrench Crusade is and always was Mordheim 2People who came in wanting Mordheim 2 got Mordheim 2 and are happy
>>97332143ORCombine it with a Mammon chorister and shut down the whole board
>>97331653Carcass front is NEVER coming outLast time Factory Fortress even mentioned it was over a year agoit's obvious they gave up
>97331159>97332432remember to not give terminally online demoralized people like those any (you)s.
>>97331672I think the crusader knights will be the "court" of the faithful side. Few powerful, maybe specialized, knight units, with squires supporting them.
Bit of info for folks on a recent bugfix for the trench companion, we have had to be stricter on what urls are valid for very boring business purposes, so anything that ends with a '/' will not be the proper page.So "https://trench-companion.com/compendium/warbands/court-of-the-seven-headed-serpent" is fineBut "https://trench-companion.com/compendium/warbands/court-of-the-seven-headed-serpent/" is notNot our favourite change, but just a practicality concern.
>>97326624>Nowhere did they promise the entire range going forward would all be released as STLs, and I challenge anyone to prove they did.Not a promise, but a shift on philosophy. Quoting directly from their page:>"We’re big believers in 3D printing and what it brings to wargaming, especially to our community members who are located in regions that are expensive to ship to. Therefore, the entire range will be available as STLs, both unsupported and professionally pre-supported, for you to print at home."https://www.myminifactory.com/frontier/trench-crusade-late-pledge-3423How can someone say this isnt betrayal?
I decided to check out what the fuzz was about with the STL file drama and I have no idea what people are upset about. The STL files can still be bought via Factory Fortress, nothing is gone.
>>97327531>you don't know how the industry worksBro every single store i'm near doesn't operate like this and never have.>but this is just conjecture you don't have data.i know i'm asking you for it. you made a sweeping statement without support.
>>97332784It's pretty obvious they were referring to the Kickstarter miniatures Nice of you to ignore context
>>97326558>As far as i'm concerned, every single faction now has beautiful STLs from factory fortress themselves tAnd what about factions that are yet to released? Tomman has been talking about a Hebrew knight faction that has in the works interviews for ages. If there are no more stl to be released then you will never be able to print something first party for than and any other factions that is yet to come out.
>>97328947>want to homebrew a faction>some how retard goes on a tangent about the rules makersyou guys have fucking brainworms or something.>>97328614>Or even design custom rules/play a different game with them?that's literally what i'm trying to do and i'm asking for input.like i literally started my entry to the chain with this.I don't need or want toumas to make it, in fact i explicitly say that America is great BECAUSE it's not covered by them because if you want to be creative you can do whatever the fuck you want. i don't want them touching it unless they want to.and since you asked for this, the minis are what i'm struggling for the most with.there's very few ranges that i think make a good base, and most of those ranges for some reason don't have a lot of guns despite the fact that natives had ample access to long arm trade. because of trade i think i could grab American colonists from perry or other napoleonics and get out a clever problem is it's a bit out of scale for TCcurrently WW exodus doesn't even stock their Warrior nation anymore which, well i didn't even really like and while i think they're inscale and they're a bit much.if you have ideas i'd be down, it's rough hunting for this and i think i'm going to have to do a lot of work particularly to get a mounted commander and maybe about 2 mounted troopers. currently i'm eyeing old death wolves for elites but they're a bit... warcraft like most hordes minis.the conceptual problem i have is that it's too close to the Irish. honestly it'd be pretty easy just to take the irish and run them as natives. fuck native MA would be cool.I thought a bit more about it and i think effectively as a starting point it should be a middle point between NC and TP. Less well equipped, no zealot strength but having access to phunt gun, molovs and other things like that. limited access to armour likely nothing better than -1
>>97327538>>97327703I think you could pull it off if you got something with like heavy tubes and big clunky dials and shit.like get a cadian pack, cut it down and extend it up and down, drill out some holes on the right for brass rod. bulk out the shape.I suggest making it a giant cross and placing a bird on top of it and having like one of those jewellers wire trailing behind like a cable.it. gives it immediate religious connotation, fits the setting, makes it look like it fits the period by making it look an extension of that technology.also get some UV resin for Cathode tubes.depends on how crazy you want to gobare in mind pigeon cages can work, i can link a video for it it's just a bitch.
>>97333021I'm not going to start arguing about hypotheticals that might happen in the future
>>97326624>It's slightly more expensive than GW which is understandable as the smaller customer base and lower purchase rates mean that costs are higher per box.Do not check what the prices are of 1/35 plastic tank scale models. Do not check what's featured in them and the technology (exampe TAMIYA) with their fitting and assembly parts.
>>97333422example*
>>97333422Because sculpting and cutting a historical tank that we have a ton of references for or a highly detailed miniature take the same amount of time and effort
>>97333488m8Sculpting a tank and making it into +1000 assembly parts is actually way harder than what you're talking about. Especially because of fitting.
>>97333497If you're gonna spew bullshit at least make it half believable
>>97332208yeah as long as they actually received their shit undamaged which apparently a shitload of people didnt
>>97332432Saved for future mockery purposes.
>>97332784“The entire range” is referring to the specific Kickstarter minis you disingenuous fuck. They didn’t say “the entire range and all future releases.”At the time the Kickstarter was released I’m pretty sure they thought it would be a ‘one and done’ but after getting 3.3 milly the lights went on and they thought “shit, we could be on to a good thing here”. >>97332777Checked. Based companionbro, can you please let the team know we are eagerly awaiting news of the Carcass Front expanded rules?
>>97333218Here’s your input. If you come in here sperging out about how we’re all despicable arseholes and the community (as represented here, anyway) are a bunch of stupid uncreative dense motherfuckers… you’re not exactly starting out winning hearts and minds. For the record, I am willing to put aside all that and have a look at your home brewed warband. As we’ve seen in previous threads, custom rules and warbands tend to the OP side, so I would be interested in seeing what you come up with, and will happily provide constructive feedback if you’d like it.
>>97333422>Price of A and price of B are roughly similar because of factors X and Y>AHA WHAT ABOUT THE PRICE OF C, DIDN’T THINK OF THAT DID YOU, CHECKMATE ATHEISTSYou sure are fucking dense. I’ve been building g Tamiya, Hasegawa, Revell, Monogram, ERTL and even Gundam kits since the early 1980’s. The market for scale models is way bigger than Trench Crusade, and arguably even GW. You may want to reconsider gotchas that involve shooting your own argument in the foot.
>>97333497I literally and unironically work in super high precision 3D CAD/CAM (maxillofacial prosthetist and epitheticist) and you have literally no fucking idea what you’re talking about. Rapid prototyping, digital scanning, automated milling (in my case, zirconium oxide, titanium and surgical steel) and more are nowhere near as complex as you think. In my opinion we are less than 5 years off affordable home die-milling/injection moulding systems and automatic insertion-path cutting and sprueing software.
