Who you callin' pinhead edition>Previous Heresy>>97369180>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question: What do you think of the differences between the nu (bad) and old (good) custodes after the merest of eight years?
>>97383132>TQThey didn't have enough time. I'm sure next FAQ the models will be perfect.
>>97383132The nu custodes are not bad, but they are not really great, i would not call them an upgrade but not a down grade. My main complaints of them areTo spindally Plumes WAY to long for no reasonLeg armor is lame and boring compared to old one
>>97383160Same but I think the helmets look terrible and its the sole reason I wont be getting any
>no SoS>no PLANS for SoS>the trembling voice and concerned look when he's asked "wheres the SoS?"it's never been more over
Flamers should have Aflame and AssaultVolkites should have PanicChange my mind>>97383124>Uh, yeah I posted a gif of an actor doing what I described, bro. Where's your pic of bayonet fencing?Are you actually retarded? A scene from a movie doesn't immediately make something historically accurate or realistic
>>97383132>TQ After I compared them to they old they honestly look fine apart from the heads, but good lord is the coneyhead strong with these ones. I think I might just look to getting a bunch of recast sagittarum heads instead if I ever get sone custodes to accompany my aux like I'm tempted to do. Also I think these are the worst heavy metal paint jobs I've seen in a long time, why can GW not hire someone who paint faces. Even ignoring the female head sculpt, look at what mockery the paintjob is on what is probably an ok granny face in bare plastic. Did they bring the old sororitas painter out for these guys?
>>97383172>the trembling voice and concerned look when he's asked "wheres the SoS?"Seriously?
I'm quite pleased to see these coming into plastic. DESU the resin ones never seemed like a difficult enough model to shy away from for any reasons besides space, but plastic is always better to work with, and I've always thought the models were really cool. The carrier might make some good conversion fodder for something since it's so absurdly oversized. I wonder if it'll have an interior.
What's the typical cycle between preview and release? 2 months? New custodes kinda fucks with my plans for a tourney in a few months, if I want to bet on getting them in and done in time.
>>97383232>that will be $210 plus tip
Ashen Claws or Dark Brotherhood, hmm...Are there any cool renegade warbands besides those?Preferably actual badass pirates and not "edgy but actually le good and loyal"? And with a color scheme that's not "all black lol"?
>>97383232I can't tell if it is the paintjob but there is something about them that feels off.
>>97383132i really adore the now older renditions in light of this newer takethey might be a little more in line with some of the artwork but i'm not a fan of how slender they are compared to their giganigga turbomarine forebears and the sculpts aren't remotely as lively or representative of them actually being in combat
>>97383244Your money's no good if you don't spend it
>>97383227exaggerating but yesit's just a confirmation that it's all just performative bullshit and what half of people predicted all along, that lore retcon gave GW a reason to updates custodes models, and custodes would always get new shit instead of sisters getting anything
>>97383258Is it that they look like toys and not miniatures?
>>97383252MAKE UP YOUR OWN DUMBASSTHAT'S THE POINT OF BLACKSHIELDS
God heavy metal cannot paint gold for shit
>>97383252the patchwork armor marks are a perfect excuse to do something like pic related from rogue trader; a patchwork of armor from other legions and/or random personal heraldry of each marine's own devising.
>>97383286>God heavy metal cannot paint for shitFtfy.
If it depended on me, custodian polearms would look like spears, glaives, halberds, voulgues, guisarmes and all kind of polearms. Their thing is combination guns. They'd range from a bolter with abayonet mounted on a pole, to a dedicated halberd that happens to have a boltgun attached to it.Every Custode is different, and every weapon is artificer-made for each individual. Self-crafted.Mine would be like this. A voulge that is incredibly...blurry. Under the microscope, the atoms themselves are fucking blurry and diffuse.
>>97383281Daym, that thought have never crossed my mind!
>>97383232these are gonna be $100 each in plastic, right?
>>97383265Wouldn't be surprised if they squat sisters of silence here. Custodes players only want to play if they can run nothing but custodes, and only.if their army is overpowered. Otherwise they'll pack up their shit.and go home rather than play a fair game.
>>97383214I am sarcastically asking you to elaborate on your point bro.Unironically I wish for bayonets to be relevant, but since rifles allowed for a single soldier to aim their shots instead of requiring a squad to reliably hit something, and since repeating weapons meant every soldier is carrying a light machinegun, combat moved to trenches, then to indoors, then to drones. I love the short polearm that is a rifle with a bayonet. It's why I like both Custodes and necrons. Polearm guns.
>>97378627>I always hated the idea of it, i though it was a bad idea to begin with, and now that they are finally commiting to it, i feel nothing.It will be whatever you decide it will. I said there shouldn't be Custodian women because I feared pic related, superhumans replacing baseline humanity...but wasn't the Emperor's plan to eventually create the Golden Race?If Custodians are the New Man, then it makes sense for them to be male and female.
>>97383252100% chance these guys are AoD Praetor sized or larger.
Why do they always fuck up the legs? Why are the legs so plain and boring when all the detail above looks squished together? At least the swords don't look so silly but the spears look cheap. The deathwatch master has a more attractive guardian spear now. Why are they so corporate?
>>97383386they have.... the same sort of thigh plates as the neue cataphracti, bros....
>>97383379S-shut up!
>>97383386Oh yeah, and why are the topknots now the volume of a human's torso, why are the spears' magazines curved making them more inconvenient to reload, why are the casings bland making them look like mass produced crap (Fuck you Arachnus)? They look like fucking pencils, look at that mf trying to swing the halberd like a crackhead trying to pick up a couch. Am I gonna have to buy the old custodes just to have around now incase I want some proper models in the future?
>>97383379they look about the same size as the csm models in this promo pic
For real though, where the fuck are the triggers on those spears?
>>97383475it's gone yo
>>97383386Huh. Literally perfect.
>>97383318Land raiders are 96 DollAhs even though the kit is fifteen years old. How large are custode tanks compared? A recaster will be cheap enough but how heavy are those kits (honest question please tell me)?
>>97383132>tqOk so ignoring that they’ve effectively killed sos for this, the fact that they don’t have triggers anywhere, the fact that they have bare legs for no reason, and their helmets are fucking massive for their heads why are these a new scale. It’s like they’re in a super true scale or some cosplayer scale. It’s like they’re using the same scaling as joytoy so now we have to deal with 3 scales so these will never look right against any other faction in game
>>97383534They're going to be $200+ AUD easily.
>>97383534yeah, I'll just buy two resin ones from wartablegames for $37 each, the design stayed exactly the same.
>>97383550I meant USD. I just say DollAH because Brooklyn.
>>97383543Anon they're the same size as the old custodes just slimmer.
>>97383560You know the main trouble with that is the lack of a base. The only thing grav tanks really have going for them is the delicious base you can make for them. Imagine how many flower tufts you could fit under one of those bad boys.
>>97383543I don't get why people are shidding and pizzing themselves over the height/scale/helmets. Fluffwise they're only a little bit shorter than primarchs, are much better proportioned than marines, and have very tall helmets. The execution was obviously terrible, but the idea was sound.
>>97383568Are they? Lmfao
>>97383607Outside of the fact that they added half an inch to the haft of the topknot for no reason, your minis are gonna stand next to your opponents. A big part of the move to true scale is an attempt to make the minis look less “cartoonish”. You compare a modern mini to old rt minis and the rt minis look ridiculous. If you keep swapping scales every release nothing looks like it’s supposed to stand next to one another. The current scaling on marines make these look like lanky freaks
>>97383627Account for the base and the tactical rock, once lifted to the same level the solar aux reaches her chin just like the old ones.
>>97383587they also sell the bases, which surprisingly look exactly like GW ones (unlike the recasts I got on ebay or from ukraine). The 170mm is less than $4.
>>97383627>>97383678Would be more convincing if i remembered to attach the picture...
>>97383689Let me have my criticism
>>97383627That one is standing on a tactical rock. A solar auxilia should be able to stand on the tip of his feet and kiss his Custode gf without her crouching too much
>>97383132We're never getting back paragon blades, solarite gauntlets, talons, or custodian axes on custodes are we
>>97383722Here's your criticism bro lmao. Have fun going back to resin vehicle land, population giant blocks of resin more warped than my penis.
>>97383627>>97383459Inflation fetishists winning again
>>97383737I purchased a magical device called a heatgun off amazon so I can bend any parts that thin into any shape I want. I actually used it to entirely change the pose of ka'bandha's wings (couldn't do it with a plastic model)
>>97383386Because they want you to participate in The HobbyTM and cut up your old Custodes and plonk them on the massive amount of Stormcast legs on the market. Games Workshop products are designed to interface with the second hand market.
>>97383737I can fix her
>>97383748HH marines looking small, need a new scale change for HH4.
>>97383677They should look short compared to Custodes, they're Custodes lmao.
>>97383286I'm sure their supervisor or some director/executive tells the rank and file painters to use certain paints.It's probably super boring and monotonous using the same paints in the same technique to paint 20-30 custodes. You're just a robot at that point. Eavy metal edge highlights absolutely everything to overwhelm you.People see new releases and think detail = good when the biggest flaw of new sculpts is how overly designed and awful they are to put together.
>>97383783>Heresy finally gets MkV>it's discernibly taller to everything else
>>97383252>Primaris bitsNo
>>97383507I never looked too hard into his cute Shield-Captain LARP until now. Nice spear though.
>>97383737skill issue- this is faster than putting together 700 plastic pieces
>>97383748through the power of the warp, everything is possible, even turning a 5'11 manlet into a 6'0 human being
>>97383911A pencil. Greatest warriors in the galaxy and they look like a fucking pencil.
the more i look at them the worse they getholy fuck is the former format just pure sovl in comparisonget your golden boy turbomarines if you want 'em while you still can yogonna cherish mine bigly from here on out
ahckshually wait these are explicit hh miniatures while the so-called 40k versions will probably remain available indefinitelythey did talk about usage overlap thoidkfuck i'm just not very impressed my dudes
>>97383252Space Wolves 13th Great Company would work great considering they have loyal/chaos armor and have fur on them
>>97383994At least the whirlwind is kino
>>97383911>>97383947Now that you mention it, I can't unnotice the weirdly long shaft on that topknot.
>>97383260>>97383980>>97383994This is very damning once you realize this is the trolling Sedivalle faggot again
>>97384018it's pretty fucking funny in a good way, that is an enormous missile launcherkinda feeling like i actually prefer the look of the scorpius though interestingly enough, it's not quite as overboard
>>97384018I really do be hating the curved nature of missile launchers in nuHeresy tbqhwyfldd.
Oh btw the Imperator from last thread's OP has a 3d print STL.
>>97383911the weird thing is how they put so much effort into fucking up the spear and making it look horrible, they didnt even need to change it.And the 4 foot tall helmet looks like he's storing the entire encylopedia britannica up on top of his head for reading when on guard duty
NU BAD OLD GOODNU BAD OLD GOODNU BAD OLD GOOD
>>97383911all the defenses the Vengeful Spirit needed to stop the custodians was ceiling fans. That plume 14 feet into the air would get tangled up instantly.
>>97383994that's corpospeak for "we lied and want to ratchet the customers""Here's new primaris, dont worry firstborn arent being removed entirely" - instantly removes 99.999% of firstborn asap. "indefinitely" in GW terms is maybe 1/3rd of a year before they announce they've stopped selling all old custodes.
>>97384018Soon>>97384045Curved?
>>97384042Yeah, I like how chunky that launcher is
>>97383132>TQI asked for new custodes models and so the monkey's paw curled. The aesthetics are a downgrade, the lore is ruined and my trust in GW is shattered. 10/10 I will buy a dozen
>>97384016>>97383252Oh wait forgot this was the HH thread for a sec, Skyrar's Dark Wolves are a SoH/Space Wolves traitor warband that decided to go reaving across the galaxy rather than return to the Warmaster for the Siege of Terra.
>>97384073Yeah the guardian spear change just seemed completely unnecessary and it's this part that really clashes against the existing Guard and Warden models, yet I don't think most would care to redo their entire existing Custodian armies because of them. Maybe they're trying to call back to older art, but I paint my custards' blades in a dark metallic grey and it works fine for the design we have already. I could forgive the downgrade if we actually got Adrathic and Adrasite upgrades in the same box, but that's probably not the case at all.The Sentinel swords are fine, I suppose. The older swords were really chunky.While the articles reaffirm that all these models are compatible with 40k, curious if they'll do a bait & switch for 11th or stick with the same clause they got for Knights, they already did that bullshit with Heresy 2.0's plastic and 9th. Though while I suppose they're already coasting on generic Contemptors, it would be funny.
>>97384181>the articles reaffirm that all these models are compatible with 40kIt'd be nice if Custodes got Venerable Land Raiders. I'm a fan of tanks not floating?
>>97384181>I could forgive the downgrade if we actually got Adrathic and Adrasite upgrades in the same box, but that's probably not the case at all.It'd be really nice if custodians could take the special spears. Melta spears, adrathic spears. Will Adrasithe be the real S5 AP2 D2 disintegrators that are forbidden for basically everyone else?>The Sentinel swords are fine, I suppose. The older swords were really chunky.They were the best cricket paddles. It is just funny how sheer wide those blades are
>>97384215tfw no superheavy-sized arkhan land grav land raider that accommodate a dreadnought in its bay
>>97384163The aesthetic is the only part of this that's correct, in that it's much more closely derived from the Visions artwork, which was always better than the Fatstodian Lards we got in plastic.
>>97384170>Skyrar's Dark WolvesNeat, never heard of them.
>>97383286Model looks fine tho, unlike the troonstodes
>>97383748Why would you compare a nu-custodes on a tactical rock with the old custodes? What a retard comparison
>>97384348No it doesn't, look at how they ruined the shoulders and shrunk the shield
>>97383783Just buy tortugabay
>>97384215There are mentions in the fluff of Custodes using Land Raiders in the Heresy, so it's strange we still don't get even Legacies-tier rules for them here. They obviously wouldn't be venerable, but yeah. Regular Contemptors are a more obvious placeholder, but at least it seems like they've had some funny use cases over the fence with reviving on objectives.>>97384236Maybe a second wave will reintroduce them or they'll get dropped random, but there's quite a bit competing for attention.>Aquilon Terminators>Sagittarum>Telemon>Gyrfalcon>Pallas>Ares>Orion
And of course, SoS are really getting overshadowed today. They deserve better.
>>97384073>>97384181Classic CAD designer just learned how to do spline and they had to flex it, to no one's amusement
>>97384365Have a (You), blind nigga.
>>97383379NoThey are 1.5m tall
>>97384367The shoulders are exactly the same shape, you have the basic modeling skills of sand paper and file don't you?
>>97383386Custodes are scaled up humans and they aren't meant to have manlet proportions like the old ones
Not showing new terminators was a mistake. Anyways what’s left for updating for custodes now?
>>97384413Who?
>>97384445The pauldron nerf is rich coming from GW
>>97384419I have a hunch GW intentionally butchers the basic design language during a refresh because they DESIRE for old models and new models to clash with each other, because that forces people to rebuy their entire army if they want it to be seamless, instead of only needing to replace 20%.Jokes on them though, I won't be buying a single nucustard
>>97383911They look so bad it's clear the old custodes sculptors either got fired, got replaced by DEI or by commies.
>>97384445That's better anon. The old ones mogg hard.
>>97384542how so?
>>97384554They do it because woke commies work there and they cannot create beautiful things only ugly things since their souls are ugly. Hence why the older sculpts mogg.Evil cannot create only corrupt, Tolkien spoke about this.
>mixing 40k with 30k? nah bro>mixing Necromunda with 30k? hell yeahWhat did GW mean by this?
>>97384554Some designers at GW does lack a common artistic sense and held a belief that more curves = better weapon design. Even when it come to just basic bitch historial weapons like Halberds for Bretonian Foot Knight or traditional Chinese dao and jian for the Cathay, instead of just google the fucker and trace over it, they drew the shape themselves and it looks like shit.
>>97384607Higher-ups got a boner for Necromunda.
>>97384607>>97384624Just look at the necromunda releases, they get full plastic kits and option sets for shit there is no way more than a dozen people are buying. Someone at GW loves Necromunda
>>97384643Apparently edgy manchildren love the police gang in Necromunda, probably carried the entire range.
>>97384643The game is cool and all, and the kits can definitely make for fun alternatives where applicable while it serves as a creative outlet for anything moderately futuristic (which works both ways, seeing Van Saar go off the rails). But yeah there's definitely some preferential treatment going on while Heresy feels like it's all over the place in transitioning to plastic.Curiously, plot-wise the succession crisis alludes to Imperial Fists threatening to step in. Think they'll actually introduce marines proper to Necromunda?>>97384677It must be tiring for local scenes to have people predominantly playing Palanite Enforcers in a game mostly about gangs, fun as the contrast is.
>>97384445>artificially increasing height with bigger helmet>can't let 40k scale terminators be bigger than the new girlbosses
What's wrong little hhg? I thought you liked big helmets :^). We made em specially for you
>normal days>no custards in sight>custard reveal day>whole thread is about custadrs and should they have vaginas or notSamefag less.
GW, pls rercon this, he was always there
>>97384830Biblically accurate female custodian.
are nutoads even real if they're nowhere to be seen in Inferno?
is that supposed to be female custodes?
>>97384857https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kcuvmezh/new-custodes-your-questions-answered/
>>97384857No. I think it just goes to show how bad HM is.
You guys are such babies. The new Custodes and their vehicles look fine for the most part, it's just the shit HM paintjob. The only part that is an actual downgrade are the boots and tactical rocks for Venatari.I suggest waiting until someone actually competent paints them.
>>97384867God, it really must have been bad for them to put that article out. Not even Primaris got an article beginning with 'address the elephant in the room' as a start.Funny thing is, if they had dropped that lore for 40k and said they were running out of male noble recruits I doubt there would have been an outcry a fraction the size of what it is now. Saying they've always been there was the worst thing they could have done to piss people off considering the sheer amount of lore and books that don't mention a single female custodes.
The one saving grace is that since GW keeps the systems separate at all costs, there is a non-zero chance that they keep the old models as the 40k models and use the new models as 30k models and keep producing both.
>>97384857No matter who they hire and train up in 'Eavy Metal they still don't understand that you cannot edge highlight a female face. That's not how they work on a structural level. I know they want to outline the sculpts more for commercial reasons but it makes the product look shit if you can't even get the heads right...
>>97384857Thats Moby
To be honest, anons. I am still glad I placed a huge order at my fav chinaman last month, so that I still got to assemble my pure male Custodes army, with my wife's son.Fuck these matchstick troon custodes
>>97383286>>97383807They definitely have some guidelines they HAVE to follow usually, you can't convince me eavy metal doesn't know how to paint female faces.That being said sometimes they're let off the hook. The darkwater stuff was a definite cut above what they're usually allowed to do. Compare the paintjob of the blight templars in that game compared to the blight kings of end times. Crazy difference.
>>97384867have custodes legs always looked like gay stormcast suits? I can't see anything else from the bottom half
>>97385134Most GW releases were painted about a year and a half ago and each franchise gets a separate team which is why the best painted models are always necromunda. 40k and sigmar are more like assembly lines at this point to get them out asap but box sets get special attention.
>>97384938thank god the 50 heresy books are already finished, now it's impossible for them to gender swap every single named custodian being male in the entire heresy.It's bad enough in the novels 99% of knight princeps were made female (a male role), 99% of ship captains were made female (a male role) and 99% of army commanders were made female (a male role)
>>97383301>The one BIG ONEWhat?
>>97383232I have a feeling that each of the calladius is going to cost like a land raider, even if it is the custodes predator and the transport is going to have a Kratos/Glaive point cost, with the speeder costed like a main line tank.
>>97384867I'm getting a very ominous feeling from the female Space Marine section.
I don't mind if people wanted femal custodes. Besides the Venetari I don't need more infantry. But did GW really have to make all the models look as if they are on Ozempic working in a library? The old custodes were chonkers and the terminators were proper huge. Like a moving mini tank. The new models, all of them, as if they were women. long arm and legs small torso wide hips. It looks really wierd/gay on dudes. And not the good kind of Spartan Gay, which I would be 100% in for. At least with a new book, I hope custodes get the option to change their line/venguard at the begining of the turn. To be an actualy playable faction in 3ed.
How's the Glaive in 3.0?
>>97385399It sucks for the points. Give it breaching 6+ on the main weapon. Maybe pinning as well. Too much?
>>97385399glaive, cerberus, typhon, falchion, and fellblade are all handicap-tier. They're simply much worse than same points put into Kratos (which is relative to cost significantly tankier and significantly shootier)Being a super-heavy comes with huge drawbacks, 100% of glances inflict 1 wound instantly. They can only react against primarchs, knights, titans, superheavies etc, so they essentially always have a free stunned status on them even before anyone shoots them.Then they also have shitty armor, instead of kratos 14-14-14 they're 14-13-12 which is 10x easier to kill in many situations (literally, like taking 10 wounds instead of 1 wound on kratos)Being that extremely fat makes navigating terrain or hiding from shooting both fail compared to smaller vehicles.Most of them don't actually have a good gun for the cost. Glaive's shitty volkite is 12 S8 AP3 D2 shots. For 650+ that's a fucking joke. It costs as much as FIVE beam predators with 5" pie plates, S8 AP2 Dmg3. Even EW1 won't save terminators from the preds but laughs at glaive's useless fucking trash volkite.
>>97385494Glaive should go back to beam and AP 2 then. Are we all in agreement?
