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>/40kg/ Community Link
https://rentry.org/40k-General

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/
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https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
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>10th Edition Rules:
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>How to make wargames terrain:
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Previous thread:
>>97383347

>Thread question:
You rike the pirates?
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>>97385218
I’m SO STOKED for muscle mommie custodes dude finally I can make my fantasy a reality, love that for us and GW, women represented as some of the most powerful models and units in lore! Fr I’m stoked!
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>>97385196
>update
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>>97385112
Imagine the sex
While standing she spins you upside down and deep throats you while you nibble on her iron hard clit
GW man. They get me. They fucking get me
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>>97385228
needs bigger tits, better faces and better abs
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Iron Within!
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>>97385238
got an arm on his dick
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>thinking femstodes care about human men with tiny ass cock vs male custodes who are literal demigods
>custodes who are also massive jackasses to humans in general
Muscle mommysloppers really aren't smart
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>>97385237
I agree but fanart will fix that, also there will be 3rd party models that'll look better.
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So you retarded faggots are cool with the Cuntstodes?
Sad. I thought this place would be the last bastion for 40k.
Guess I'll be moving to that Gundam miniatures game, or maybe make my own setting. 40k is poxxed and will become the next Star Wars.
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>new female custodes actually mog the old chud custodes
It's genuinely over for you people
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>>97385245
>So you retarded faggots are cool with the Cuntstodes?
Not my faction, not my problem.
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>>97385245
okay see ya have fun
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>>97385245
(you)
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>>97385245
See you back here next week like all the other chuds.
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>>97385245
Bumstodes aren't relevant to anything other then le culture war posters that want to own le chuds.
I don't play giant golden bricks that I can't paint how I want
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>>97385245
Please don't go anon we need more quality posters.
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Little daemon fellas
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>>97385253
I dunno man. I think my GW fatigue finally peaked.
>>97385261
You can find me in the alternative wargames general ;)
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>article says that custodes can be female and created from the daughters of noble houses
>still insist that they must be troons
I thought it was sigmarxists that wanted trans representation, not the anti-woke crowd?
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>>97385272
buy an ad arch
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>>97385243
I'm built different, that's why she likes me.
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>>97385239
>Female Custodes (left)
>Male Custodes (right)
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>>97385218
>service studs on a custodian
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>>97385271
You don't own any models for any wargames
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>>97385272
They look like men, therefore they must be troons.
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>>97385288
This but unironically.
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>>97385272
no he's saying they're ugly.
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>>97385283
He's a shortking, king of the manlets.
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>>97385238
I imagine a lot of sustained hits on their army
As DG gets lethal and EC gets Precision Iron warriors get Sustained in all ranged weapons
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>imperium releases
>constant shitflinging and tons of anger online with tons of videos being made about how it's over

>chaos/xenos releases
>fans are buy and large happy and hoping for more to come
Why is this?
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>>97385272
This post is advertising or begging.
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>>97385270
i love little guys, we need more little guys
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>>97385288
Maybe they are just ugly women (born with XX chromosomes)?
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>>97385296
(you)
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>>97385245
>Gundam
The franchise with a ton of implied lesbomancy in the past two anime. Lmao
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>>97385239
>pick a custodes model no one likes so fans of the old model range are forced to choose between defending it to defend the range by proxy or giving up
Ingenious.
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>>97385296
Remember this next time some faggot is having a meltdown about eldar players never being happy when a few people say they don't like a sculpt.
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I have 0 CSM models but this box is really appealing to me
I don't even know if basic Legionairres and Terminators are even good
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Nothing gets me laughing when people on reddit and such scream about chuds who dislike femstodes, then scream because someone wants a golden muscle mommy. You have to like them, but you can't want to fuck them or like them the wrong way. It's madness.
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>>97385239
Isn't that one on the right fairly new? Big fuck you if true.
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>>97385296
When you are used to eating shit, piss tastes like heaven
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>>97385309
Which is extra funny since many also complain eldar updates are too similar to the old sculpts.
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>>97385316
In some cases they are.
If the old models look shit they should change them up
If the old models looked good they should stay faithful.
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>>97385272
I refuse to believe anyone here actually watches him. His voice is insufferable.
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>>97385304
And?
I don't have a problem with that. It doesn't break any lore, Bandai hasn't told me I won't be missed and their prices remain somewhat reasonable.
A little bit of yuribait won't hurt.
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>>97385272
arch should have stayed doing lore videos, because by god he is such a retard when it comes to politics
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>>97385309
Does feel like specifically an eldar issue, didn't see it as much with necrons or orks stuff.
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>>97385311
>redditors are retards
and water is wet anon
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Predict how GW will handle demon Peterturbotastic.
Will he get an actual well-written book or end up like Fulgrim who only appears in 2 sentences in one book after his model release?
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>>97385316
>>97385328
Let me say it a bit slower.
Whenever any model release is not well recieved (I'm thinking of dark reapers) you will have people in this thread having an absolute meltdown and coping with the idea that people here just don't like *any* new release or that they're horrible ingrates towards daddy gw.
Except this belief is clearly delusional, and the current moment proves it.
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He's right behind me isn't he?
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>>97385325
i like some of his lore videos. some of them are good to listen when i'm driving to work
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>>97385332
Most of the people here are redditors.
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>>97385327
He's retarded when it comes to lore too.
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>>97385342
and /leftypol/
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What's he thinking about?
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>>97385350
>most obvious bait post you've ever seen
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Let Chaos idols take this thread!
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Femgors next.
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>>97385356
New dark reapers sculpts.
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>>97385362
what faction would phase connect be?
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>>97385310
I'm not so sure about these FOMO boxes.
How much of a discount are you really getting if you don't want the guardsmen? It's just
>termies
>legionaries
>raiders
>character
>upgrade kit
Even if you get a unit free do you REALLY need or want it?
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>>97385356
He's been reading this general since yesterday
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>>97385281
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>>97385245
>So you retarded faggots are cool with the Cuntstodes?
People with custodes models aren't cool with it
People who have explicitly said they don't like custodes are cool with it
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>>97385368
>65 for termies
>65 for legionaries
>65 presumably for raiders
>53 for guard
>45 for character
>40 for upgrade sprue
333 dollars
box will be 250 mostlike
sell the guard if you dont want them for 40
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>>97385373
Don't forget the guys who are indifferent to custodes are largely indifferent to it.
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Who has the best AI in the galaxy?
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>#freethevisarch
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>>97385375
We'll just have to see when we get the prices. But still FOMO without unique boxes are just a marketing tactic less of us should fall for.
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>Sit down to play
>Barely end up painting anything, just get distracted constantly, overeat because i'm bored
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>>97385371
Kek
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>>97385383
fatty
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>>97385310
Terminators are hit or miss, you can make them work but they're usually not the optimal choice. Legionaries are amazing and a staple workhorse in basically any CSM list. 5-man units (with or without attached characters) are among the best trade pieces in the game, they hit much harder than their points suggest they should.
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>>97385272
I didn't watch arch in like 15 years, the point article makes is that due to the genetic alchemy there is no difference in performance between male and female.
My interpretation is that it means that subject's physiology is so transformed by the procedure that doesn't even resemble the original gender so it so no longer a factor that would impede females.
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>>97385377
Those don't exist, indifference is the dishonest stance of people who are cool with it and hate custodes but are too cowardly to openly say why.
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>>97385245
Nigga they retconned it years ago. This was obvious. Nigga u dumb as hell. Also, who tf plays goofy ass custards nigga? They should be chillin' in the throne room
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>>97385383
Just listen to a podcast or music while painting, works for me
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>>97385396
>They should be chillin' in the throne room
Technically it's an HH model. Really this whole discussion should be in /hhg/.
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>>97385389
>Legionaries are amazing and a staple workhorse in basically any CSM list
Why would you lie? Chosen are, not legionaries.
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disliked the new sentinel at first but painting one made me really like them
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>>97385309
Eldar players got even more sculpts but I'm pretty sure they're gonna complain about not getting enough next week
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>>97385362
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I know the AdMech box is a famously bad Combat Patrol, but isn't that somewhat ameliorated by the fact that everything in there, aside from the HQ, is multibuild? You could easily buy it like 4 times or more and still not be building a weird skew list
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>>97385406
I like Saturnine
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>>97385406
God I will never get over what they did to my cataphractii
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>>97385401
>90 points
>2 heavy melee weapons in 5-mans
>built-in full wound re-rolls that they also give to characters that join
Legionaries are fucking great and if you think otherwise you're terrible at warhammer. They'll clean anything in their weight class off an objective, and if there's a chaos lord in the unit they threaten to put a serious dent in almost anything in the game for less than 200 points because chaos lords fucking love wound re-rolls.
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>>97385406
i like all of them
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>>97385309
The jump pack corsairs look meh.
And we got a they/them character that people would shitpost about right now if it wasn't for ma'amstodes.
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Wealth beyond measure, hive dweller.
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>>97385414
Nigger I love my legionaries and I don't even run Chosen because I cba painting them but they're in no way "amazing and a staple workhorse in basically any CSM list"
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>>97385413
what did they do? whem i was looking at IW combat force the models looked good
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>>97385402
I had the exact same experience.
They're just fun to paint, they're the perfect size where they're big enough to not be fiddly, but small enough that they're don't get repetitive or or boring like a tank would.
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>>97385296
>>97385315
I just wanted my corsairs to be viable as an army.
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>>97385310
Terminators, Legionaries, and Traitors are all mid-to-absent from waac lists, that's why they're in the box.
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>>97385424
The new ones are weirdly lanky like bad truescale conversions when cataphractii are supposed to be the chunkiest widest terminators before saturnine got revealed
And the box's options fucking suck, no lightning claws whatsoever, not enough of the other weapon options to mono load out, the power fists are tiny
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>>97385398
doesn't work for me.
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How do you fit 10 marines in here?
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>>97385310
Conversely I already own most of this box, so maybe I'll buy it and sell the parts I don't want like the legionaries.
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>bought two custodes tanks a few weeks ago
you guys can thank me for the plastic kit
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>>97385390
I take it as that there is no difference between effectiveness and battle prowess, but male custodes look like peak male performance meme, while the women look like amazonian goddesses.
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>>97385433
12 for chaos
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>>97385379
>servitor
>not kastelan
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>>97385375
third parties should be selling for like 210
>buy box
>sell traitor guard
>sell legionaries
>have the rest for like 100 bucks
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>>97385433
Like this.
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>>97385436
thank you.
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>>97385439
Kastelans are technically less autonomous than servitors.
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>>97385350
>5 year oldpost
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>>97385406
Those aren't metal skeletons, those are just dudes in thick armor.
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>>97385439
Kastelan isn't AI either.
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>>97385447
>Those aren't metal skeletons
These are however.
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>>97385403
my complaint is that there doesn't seem to be a generic corsair prince sso you have to take yriel.
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>>97385379
>>97385439
aren't servitors and kastelans just lobotomized dudes?
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>>97385433
Very carefully.
>>97385448
Arguably it is.
Someone within the Mechanicus has to program the mind, ie. the AI that controls the robot and makes it able listen to commands and do the tasks it has been ordered to do. Kastellans are specifically controlled/commanded by the floppy disk like wafers in their chest.

It largely makes no difference if the AI program is run on a convetional computer, or on a computer made from human neural tissue, it's still an AI.
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>>97385423
I did a quick search, and almost every csm list I could find ran at least one unit of legionaries, and I saw a creations list with four. The one list I found without them was a Pactbound gunline that didn't have a chaos lord. I know I basically never write lists without them and they always put in great work. They're literally one of the best trading pieces you can find in 40k at the moment. A CP for advance and charge or staging out of a rhino gives them enough threat range that they simply can't be measured out, and anyone who doesn't respect them is trading down every time.
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>>97385455
Yea it does.
If the intelligence isn't artificial, that means its not AI.
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i started my army this week. i have 2 boxes of custodes combat patrol, 2 boxes of Sisters, i box of vertus praetors and a rihno
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How are we feeling, fellow hobbyists?
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>>97385454
Servitors are lobotomized and are most likely being controlled by rudimentary machine spirits made from their own brains. Kastelans run on essentially preset functions from data discs that you need to directly feed into the robot.
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>>97385472
I shant be paying the cum tax.
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>>97385445
That's only because they've been stripped of their autonomy, but there're pieces of fluff that tell quite plainly that they were extremely old robot, that they had more complex artificial brains, and that at least one group of them wanders the galaxy on its own terms in a way the admech either can't or doesn't want to explain
They're lobotomised AI, chained by a tech priest but sometimes they get free
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>>97385452
Yeah, Corsair Prince and Void Dreamer being both named characters only is massively disappointing
Controversial change to a vehicle too
Flying Corsairs have weird poses
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>>97385464
And I already addressed that. Someone within the Mechanicus has to physically code the actual the actual AI program, all kastellan robots and most other robots within the mechanicus just use a vat grown lump of human neural tissue as the main neural hub, aka computer for the robot. It's not a proper "brain".

What you might be thinking of are the Thallax which are just essentially lobotomized humans in a robot body, but those aren't part of the Legio Cybernetica but part of the Ordo Reductor of the Mechanicum.
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>>97385454
castellans aren't the same as kastelans
castellans are lobotomized people put in robotic frames, kastelans don't have a single biological bit in them
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>>97385473
i wonder if those datacards are written in basic
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>>97385484
>massively disappointing
disappointing yes, massively I wouldn't say so, the profiles are still perfectly usable for the same exact purpose
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>>97385486
>which are just essentially lobotomized humans in a robot body
A fun time all around.
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>>97385472
Conflicted on whether to remove the fist icons from Corsair kits, or just defile them for my Night lords army.
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>>97385478
Do you think there's actually worlds within the Imperium that actually have to pay a cumtax?
Like say the planet tithe consists of genetic material they have to give to the Imperium?
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>>97385498
The imperium would simply drag away people instead of fluids, more efficient.
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>>97385498
I could see a marine chapter doing such a thing in order to essentially use eugenics to breed perfect recruits.
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>>97385495
Yeah I can proxy, but that's not the point. Every Corsair Prince will have to have spear basically because Yriel has it. A generic Corsair Prince with a variety of gear would be better
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>>97385496
>No ability to feel pain or emotions
oh no how horrible
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>>97385328
>Missed the constant pitching about the nightbringer and snaggas
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>>97385472
dipping into custard
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>>97385472
I don't particularly care about the Custodes controvers, love the new Red Corsairs though.
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>>97385472
Yes. Some of those awesome new Custodes miniatures are female.
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>>97385472
The custodes battle group currently comes out to around 1k points in 40k (I suspect it's going to change since they're apparently getting a rules update) and I am SORELY tempted because I really like the new models.
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>>97385501
>Every Corsair Prince will have to have spear
Nobody cares if your melee profile is for a spear, a sword, mace or a gauntlet or whatever, especially in a xenos proxy
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>>97385426
Truly made me wanna remake ny first guard army from when i was 12 yo. Those are nice though, make me wish i went for crisper camo lines instead of fading ones
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>>97385504
Luckily chaos players never get mad about random releases for arbitrary or retarded reasons.
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>>97385491
You mixing up thallax with castellax.
Castellax have a machine spirit, the same as kastelans, it's why you can give paragon of metal upgrde.
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>>97385504
>>97385516
Has it occurred to you that people might have valid reasons for having likes and dislikes?
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>>97385504
>constant bitching about the nightbringer
nigga, are you listening to retards or what?
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>>97385512
what if I want for my prince to have a gun tho
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What will we learn from the current round of anger?
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The Eldar Corsairs box is better value than the Red Corsairs box because it has all the corsair stuff, while Red Corsairs have to buy Huron and his posse separately.
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>>97385520
Well those wouldn't fall into arbitrary or retarded reasons now would they?
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>>97385529
so no
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>>97385528
>while Red Corsairs have to buy Huron and his posse separately
I don't use named characters.
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>>97385520
Yes?
>>97385521
That's typically the demographic that complains regardless of faction
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>>97385532
>I don't use named characters.
I like you, Anon. You have good taste.
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>>97385472
The custodes models are ok, I would've preferred it if they made the bust armor more prominent and gave the female custodes slightly wider hips, but they are servicable and also easy to fix/tweak by myself. The male ones look fine as is.
I agree the faces don't look great but that goes for most female faces GW makes and paints. Sisters of battle models are a good example of this.
I'll reserve my proper judgement on the faces until we get proper images of the heads both unpainted and painted by other people instead of just the GW heavy metal team.
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>>97385532
Every character is named if you name them yourself.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97385525
yriel does have a gun
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>>97385533
How come no one dislikes the corsairs then?
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>>97385526
Nothing we knew the grifting parasites on 40k would react like this already. I want SoS to be expanded so sad they're not even on the horizon but I don't own either army so I shouldn't complain.
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alright fuck it I'm tired of sitting on the sidelines. I wanna play this damn game. I'm going to the store today and getting a box.

I've got my choices narrowed to CSM and TS. which path should I take
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>>97385526
GW cares not from whence the reaction flows, only that it flows
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>>97385546
CSM have possessed so choose them. Then go onto ebay and get the skeleton one.
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>>97385526
Absolutely nothing. We correctly predicted they would reveal femstodes head sculpts, and discussed several times that we knew exactly what kind of /v/ tourism would erupt. Same shit, same grift, same culture war.
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>>97385546
Are you new the miniature wargaming/painting in general?
'Cause you picked two of the harder armies to paint.
Personally, I'd go CSM.
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>>97385546
CSM have more variety and cool options. Monogod legions will always be cucked as long as they are so strongly separated from base CSM.

Also there should be another Tzeentch CSM range imo. TSons are too specific with their Rubrics
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>>97385544
The intense seething anger makes you very distinct. Go outside faggot.
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>>97385544
Custodes were obviously going to get refreshed first. Sisters will get their time to shine eventually.
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I can't fucking believe GW. What the fuck is this retcon, they're raping the lore. Why aren't the custodes helmets silver with a WW1 germanic spike like this art. The west has fallen
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>>97385557
>Dude just pick an army you like less, spend thousands on it just because its easier to paint
terrible advice.
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>>97385424
new ones are just resized humans but not taking into account that the armor is suppose to be bulky so as the other anon has said they are lanky as hell.

Also because people are retarded GW weapon locked the box so you don't get all of the weapons bits like you got in the old one.
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>>97385566
because that's a different unit, anon
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>>97385567
I didn't say that.
I said they're hard to paint (they are).
And then I also said I'd lean towards towards one of the two options he picked.
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>>97385543
People are complaining about them in this very thread
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>>97385576
Whats hurt your fragile little feelies this time?
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>>97385578
What?
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>>97385526
That time alone doesn't make people move from one stage of grief to another, especially when the thing people are meant to accept is massively retarded and unwanted to begin with.
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>>97385571
No its over, the lore is dead. Why arent their helms and full body armour pure silver like this art?! GW don't know their own lore. I'm done, the woke golden order has won, enjoy the golden agenda I'm leaving 40k.
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>>97385564
Sisters of Silence a getting squatted
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>>97385567
I went with CSM and I love them. But I started painting them in 2021 and it's really annoying. If I had to start again I'd go with something easier to paint.
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>>97385586
Says who?
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>>97385501
No point in engaging with these people, they don't understand the appeal of having a blank slate sheet to make your own dude with, not to mention we'd get a cool mini out of it.
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>>97385583
People said this about primaris too, 99% of the fanbase has moved and no longer give a fuck.
Only ones who do care still will never be satisfied with anything, or they want something completely unrealistic, like GW to issue some official apology article and then rollback the entire game back 4th edition. Aka a thing that will never happen.
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>>97385590
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>>97385519
They've got people in them, I'm not counting on them being exclusively machine-spirit
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>>97385594
Why make shit up at this point?
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Is chaos good for you?
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>>97385603
Is this achievable natty?
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id like to keep posting models to drown out the shitposting but ive ran out of models ive completed recently, someone needs to carry on from me
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>>97385599
I'm not,
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A question for you gents.

I've been meaning to dig out my old mono Slaanesh daemon army that I haven't touched this edition.

Can mono Slaanesh work? All the daemon lists I see seem to be full of GuO and laser birds.

Pic unrelated but it's from my most recent game.
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>>97385609
It's time to stop anon.
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>>97385571
Love these niggas
The new models are so shit
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Ultrabros... we lost.
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>>97385609
No, you're making shit up.
They talked about this in the stream, SoS will have rules and will continue being supported going forward.
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>>97385592
That's because primaris was never as retarded as people made them to be.

People wanted new proportions for marines, people wanted less limits for marines, people wanted loyalists and heretics to stop being specular, and making them a development rather than a retcon meant not instantly erasing decades of books and artworks and even the models were allowed to exist side by side with a rationale for the change in size, rather than as something utterly immersion breaking.

There's absolutely no reason for the custodes retcon, and sisters of silence are actively harmed in the process unless they're decoupled from custodes now.
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>>97385584
Those are lucifer blacks not custodians. You hobby tourists sure are a bunch of retards.
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>>97385616
They still made those cringe protest videos, it's just a matter of time before they bear fruit and more blue shit hits the fan.
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>>97385626
Those are the Companions. Lucifer Blacks are humans.
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>>97385621
>people wanted loyalists and heretics to stop being specular,
What?
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>>97385218
Genuinely why the fuck is Custodes even a playable army? Makes no sense
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>>97385245
Easily the majority of posts about this development have been negative, no people here are not OK with it
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>>97385627
I found first one amusing. It got a chuckle out of me
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>>97385621
>here's new marine models they're a little taller and better proportioned now
>marine players go oinkoinkoink
WOW that was so hard
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>>97385621
>and making them a development rather than a retcon meant not instantly erasing decades of books and artworks and even the models were allowed to exist side by side with a rationale for the change in size, rather than as something utterly immersion breaking
Odd chaos was able to change their scale and rules without needing a lore justification.
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>>97385632
The constant arms race of
>we want what the heretics got, but pre corruption
>we want what the loyalists got, but corrupted
was an unsustainable mess that was hindering every potential release for either faction
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>>97385626
Only a secondary would think that since all the youtube grifters made a video about how cool and tough they are despite never getting mentioned in codexes or ever having art.
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>>97385634
It's the trap choice babby's first army
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>>97385304
Do you still believe that misogyny is the reason behind everyone hating femstodes?
Nobody gives a shit what factions have males or females except for when it contradicts established lore for stockholder/DEI points.
GW will never say it and only refer to reasons in-universe because there are no good reasons out of universe for this change. It's just to try and appeal to a 'modern audience' once again that don't actually exist because they stockholders think that's what generates a bigger income. That's why we're all pissed.
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>>97385634
Makes sense in HH.
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>>97385621
Sisters of Silence are a minor auxilia in a custodes codex and also Horus Heresy migrants. Saying new custodes stuff harms them is like saying new ogre stuff harms gnoblars, shit no one cares about.
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>>97385610
Yes, in fact it was so OP it had to get nerfed. Its still decently strong. I think the core of the army is just 3 Keeper of Secrets + an absolute horde of deamonettes. They have a very strong detachment for slanneshi mono. I'm sure you will be fine if you have the chariots and such. Tranceweavers are good action monkeys.
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Why are they holding CSM bikers hostage? We know they already made them, they have sculpts and probably molds too for YEARS already.
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>>97385634
GW smelled money when they came out for HH
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>>97385557
I've painted a lot, but never with an eye towards actually building an army
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>>97385644
It's funny since now Chaos is just where all the old marine stuff exists now while loyalists just get the same sculpt 10 times.
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>>97385621
>There's absolutely no reason for the custodes retcon
That is a subjective opinion, which you're allowed to have. But ultimately it is meaningless. What you like or prefer, doesn't matter to other people.
>and sisters of silence are actively harmed in the process unless they're decoupled from custodes now.
They weren't and they are not being decoupled from anything.
They talked about this in the stream, sisters of silence will continue to have rules and models and are going to be supported for the forseeable future. Actually watch the streams instead doomposting.

And you do realize that there's still like 2 or 3 years of Heresy 3.0 left, right? They are not going to splurge an entire model range out of the gate.
GW will just update rest of the custodes and the SoS at a later date, for the simple reason that they will always play second fiddle to custodes.

Also ever since primaris and largely before it, GW has been drip feeding its new model releases so they can keep their revenue stream stable instead of having massive spikes at one time that then plateaus.
This has happened with primaris too, they released few models at first and then over time released more and more.
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>>97385655
They probably just forgot they didn't release them. You should tell gw.
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>>97385642
chaos already had chaos juice to justify their new, exclusive and weirder shit, normal marines didn't have that luxury

>>97385641
>here's new marine models they're a little taller and better proportioned now
wouldn't have worked because gw couldn't update all marines at once, so they would have maintained up in the store a number of manlets alongside the updated ones, and without that minimal validation the manlets would have immediately stopped selling altogether
and you're missing that the proportion wasn't the only issue, breaking the mold of how marines were organised and equipped was also one that had to be addressed
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There's way fewer people performatively angry about this than there were primaris, because way fewer people give a shit about custodians in the first place.
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>>97385642
Primaris exist because in 2016-2017 ish GW was basically 2 weeks away from going under and into bankcruptcy.
They made a gigantic gamble with 8th edition, primaris and bringing Guilliman back, and it worked. It revived the company from the border of bankcruptcy.
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>>97385651
>Sisters of Silence are a minor auxilia in a custodes codex
weren't meant to be
>and also Horus Heresy migrants
so are custodes

>shit no one cares about
if you don't care about the talons of the emperor them shut the fuck up and get out of my sight
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>>97385664
>wouldn't have worked because gw couldn't update all marines at once
Considering the sheer amount of kits that Primaris got even on launch they could have basically updated any existing plastic kit in that first wave. And by this point we've gotten all the updates to the resin stuff in primaris.
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>>97385634
Same reason why Knights are an army.

Mister_Krabs_says_Money.jpeg
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>>97385645
i can't help but stare at this every time it's posted
truly the best piece of warhammer art ever made and it's not even close
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>>97385671
Moron, Custodes have been around since Rogue Trader (even had rules there) while Sisters of Silence are nu-lore invented for Black Library.
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>>97385669
You know GW's financial statements are publicly available, right? Someone could just check and see that they made steady profits in those annual reports. It would take less than two minutes.
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>>97385668
If they cared then how would it be performative?
You're just throwing out buzzwords aren't you. lol.
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>>97385617
Like firstborn?
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>>97385680
nu-lore that's like 25 years old.
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>The Emperors new army of Space Marines that were built in secret and launched en mass to very quickly take over the whole galaxy for some grand and highly improbable vision of the future
>Hitlers new army he built up and rearmed secretly launched a lightning fast invasion of Europe, inventing the blitzkrieg style of warfare to take over neighbouring countries in an effort to take over the whole of Europe and thus the world for some grand and highly improbable vision of the future
Huh, so uh whose the 40k SS?
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>>97385655
>The Holy Leakz proclaimed it to be so, it MUST be true
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>>97385692
Literally every part of that, (except Daemons) was 100% on the money. IIRC it was the first word of Squats returning.
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>>97385684
You can be angry without performing online to show people your righteousness and purity in the eyes of the almighty lore some Nottingham crackhead wrote 30 years ago.
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>>97385692
>everything else was true but this part wasn't because... well just because
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>>97385668
When we had the original holabaloo over this when the Custodes codex released, twitter and reddit were in a secondary meltdown over this, and unsurprisingly most of the people involved, both pre-femstodes and anti-femstodes crowds owned no models.

On here, most model posters (people who matter because they actually buy GW's products) didn't care about the codex retcon.
Which then triggered some /pol/fags who went into a meltdown where they spammed the thread with tranny and scat porn.
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>>97385686
25 years ago is 3rd edition and Sisters of Silence aren't 3rd edition, they are more nu-lore than Tau.
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>>97385661
>That is a subjective opinion
No, it's not, which is why you have to throw around that meaningless retort instead of proposing an actual reason for the retcon that isn't dei bullshit.

>They weren't
They were, remember when they made an episode about the fucking tithe of psykers carried out by the sisters and then the forceful introduction of female custodes meant they had to steal the spotlight? that's harm, the sisters of silence were female representation done organically and given its own role, now they're even further pushed to the side because they'll just use custodes for that, and it will keep happening more and more
>and they are not being decoupled from anything.
they should be now, or else they'll only get even more shit in their faces

>They talked about this in the stream
they said there's nothing for them, and maybe the future will give them something, that's nothing

>They are not going to splurge an entire model range out of the gate
Custodes and sisters were released together, they could and should have been rereleased together
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>>97385698
So yes you're just using buzzwords without even understanding what they mean. lmao.
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>>97385654
Neat, cheers!

I was thinking a theme of three "sisters" as the core since I already got a bunch of Keeper would be.

Are daemon princes a decent pick? I have been thinking of building some of various parts I got around.

Also is Bela¨kor a must? I have been thinking of getting a hold of the Forgeworld Fulgrim as a themed count as.
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>>97385685
Yes?
Firstborn are supported. They are in Horus Heresy, models which you can just use in 40k anyway many people here already do, and CSM exist in 40k.
This isn't the gotcha moment you think it is.
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>>97385703
Post models.
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>>97385710
You first.
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>>97385680
the custodes in rogue trader were nothing like the ones that would follow, their modern interpretation was done with sisters at their side and they've been at each other's side since then

visions of heresy is only "nu-lore" by the dishonest
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>>97385700
>On here, most model posters (people who matter because they actually buy GW's products) didn't care about the codex retcon.
>Random comments I personally cherrypicked from a sea of dissatisfied long time players didn't care so it is not a bad thing.
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>>97385696
If you can accept it got one thing wrong already, then you can accept it got two
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>>97385712
okay
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>>97385713
Visions of Heresy is nu-lore, and your interpretation omits the fact that even in nu-lore Custodes were created to work without the SoS being around at all, and did so for centuries before the SoS were founded during the Crusade.
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>>97385655
mistakes happen in leaks reporting too
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>>97385708
Ynnari tier cope
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>>97385678
aside from that fucked up perspective on emp's leg
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>>97385723
>Visions of Heresy is nu-lore
Then you're a dishonest retard arguing in bad faith

>Custodes were created to work without the SoS being around at all
Irrelevant in an argument about them being conceptualised together by the artists and writers as an asymmetric pair
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>>97385702
>No, it's not, which is why you
Cool, I don't care. It is subjective. You care about it, I don't, that makes it subjective. Neither your or my opinion are the end all be all.
>They were, remember when they made an episode
Which also had a sister of silence character who was part and integral to the plot.
>they should be now, or else they'll only get even more shit in their faces
They won't be and shouldn't be. And this mildly weird since it sounds very interesting that a guy who supposedly likes SoS, wants to decouple them hard to the point where they become even more irrelevant, you know that custodes are the only reason why anyone cares about SoS. It's literally not in your best interest to not decouple them evidenced by 7th edition where SoS had their own codex. (Nobody bought it.)
>they said there's nothing for them
Currently
>and maybe the future will give them something
And they also said they will be supported in the future, this is not a confirmation of any squatting.
>Custodes and sisters were released together, they could and should have been rereleased together
I agree they should have been released together, but that does not matter to GW, and this is how GW works nowadays and it has worked like this for at least 15 ish years.
You will get your SoS when they are ready, not any sooner.

Also remember GW already brought back Squats, they are not going to be squatting anything, they will keep sisters around and give them a model refresh and new units too.
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>>97385721
Why do you shitposters never have any completed models?
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>>97385734
Artists drawing a picture together doesn't mean they're conceptualized together. There are pictures with Custodes alone and there are pictures with all Primarchs together, guess that means the Primarchs were meant to be like the Avengers and conquer the galaxy as a team.
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>>97385715
I was there when it happened. It was most of the modelposters that held this opinion, yes, even Lamentersfag, Sallyanon and many others.
Also we still have purple anon and many other model posters here, clearly if they keep buying, painting and posting models since the codex reveal, it clearly means it does not bother them.
It is not cherrypicked.
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>>97385413
I'm debating with myself if I should get a box of the current line before the new one releases. I already have 20, most of which aren't built, but I'd hate having to go looking for the old ones a year or two after they get squatted.
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>>97385741
>Also remember GW already brought back Squats
Not really, they just introduced Short Starcraft Space Marines with none of the original flavour of Squats in common.
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>>97385701

The Sabretooth card game was published in 2003 and had SoS in it.
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>>97385754
>trustmebro, I saw some messages on this board!
Uh-huh. Still doesn't make the retcon valid or good.
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>>97385754
Yes I'm sure they all made official public statements while avatarfagging with their armies.
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99% of horus heresy is nu-lore.
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>>97385767
Horus heresy has capeshit vibes whenever people talk about it.
But you look at the model range and it almost seems like pseudo historical wargaming.
It feels like quite a contrast.
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>>97385592
>99% of the fanbase has moved and no longer give a fuck.
Anon, Heresy players are heresy players for a reason.
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>>97385760
Not involved with Custodes yet
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>>97385743
Why does this guard boomer not have any unfinished models? When did he last paint???
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>>97385655
They never speak about Malys before release even when her model was leaked
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>>97385771
Because the setting was absolutely salvaged by Alan Bligh
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>>97385767
HH series is fully capeshit, most egregiously they whitewashed Russ in Burning of Prospero which was originally his plan without any fake messages from Horus involved. Index Astartes Space Wolves:
>At Russ' insistence, the Emperor was persuaded that Magnus was the traitor, not Horus. Horrified, the Emperor commanded Russ to leave immediately for the Thousand Sons' home world. The Wolf-King mustered his Legions about him, and prepared once more to go to war
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>>97385779
>Marineslop
Why do you you cope so hard then? You barely bought in.
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>You know what the most dangerous thing in the Materium is, right? Nigga with a library card.
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>Le post models
I'm 90% sure the primary driver of this shit just wants to make everyone into some kind of identifiable thread personality so he can later harass them whenever they post.
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>>97385790
GW should definitely not listen to what the "marines don't count" 40k fans think lol.
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>>97385741
>I don't care. It is subjective
No, it's not subjective just because you wish it were, and you care about it because you're vehemently defending this shit, the only difference is that you're doing so dishonestly and in bad faith because you know there's no reason for the retcon and no reason for you to defend the retcon other than DEI bullshit.

>Which also had a sister of silence character who was part and integral to the plot.
The episode was meant to be about her and about the tithe of psykers but it was utterly hijacked by the introduction of the female custodian and her show of dominance over the marines which take the whole episode's narrative gravitas, the sister and her role was relegated to a side plot, she was put in a corner to the point she was made unable to interact with the attendants of the black ship WHICH IS HER ENTIRE JOB, all to make the female custodian take centerstage there too. That's how bad shit gets even in something as small as an animated episode, let alone books and model releases now.

>They won't be and shouldn't be
They absolutely should be, keeping them chained to the custodes now means keeping them forcefully and artificially irrelevant, using your same analogy with gnoblars and ogres, it would be like having gnoblars be the only goblins around when goblins when allowed to shine on their own or paired with actual equals (orcs), are one of the most popular fantasy ranges.
Sisters deserve the attention, can stand on their own, and with custodes now deformed in this way to not even be remotely complementary in masculinity/femininity, then sisters have to be paired with someone else, grey knights are the ideal candidates.

I don't want to hear more shit from you unless you start being honest about why you defend the retcon.
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>>97385692
Yes
Everything was correct down to release order. Clearly, obviously, objectively, factually it wasn't a blind shot, but actual leaks by someone who knew exactly what and when will release, covid delays moving release date of every release notwithstanding
This means that GW does have CSM bikers, they just chose to delay their release for some reason for so many years. There is no other option
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>Perturabo coming back
>elf corsairs
>red corsairs
I see we are continuing 2025's trend of launching 10 different new armies with 4 or 5 kits at most and then leaving them unfleshed to go launch a few more.
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>>97385750
>Artists drawing a picture together
and being titled together, and being described to be two sides of the emperor's army, and more

>guess that means the Primarchs were meant to conquer the galaxy as a team
the conquest of a galaxy is a concerted effort, anon, wake the fuck up, they are a team, if they weren't there would be no reason to appoint a ruler amongst them
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I'm glad about this reveal. I am finally free of giving a shit about this universe. So much shelf space to be freed when I finally chuck that shit in the trash.
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No one would buy SoS if they weren't in the Custodes codex much less care about them. Broken bucks seething about femstodes pretend to care to have an argument, that's all.
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>>97385799
They can all harass me, I dont care. Knowing my painting skills are magnitudes above and beyond people here (besides two or three people) makes their harassment impotent.
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>>97385841
You obviously don't appreciate how mentally ill the poster that latch onto generals can be.
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>>97385832
The two corsair factions seem to just be sub-factions for eldar and CSM, rather than their own factions, I doubt they will have their own codexes.
I'm not sure if the iron warriors will be another sub-faction under chaos undivided or be their own thing like DG/TS/WE.
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>>97385832
Perturabo isn't coming back

The "iron warriors" wave is a stealthy normal chaos marines wave, the jewels of the release wave are mutilators and the defiler, the extent of the iron warriors is just an upgrade sprue.
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>>97385833
>and being titled together, and being described to be two sides of the emperor's army, and more
Not really, Talons of the Emperor just refers to whatever Emperor commands personally (nominally), Sisters aren't integral part of it and were only founded mid-Crusade. Only Custodes have always been a part of it. They're actually part of Adeptus Astra Telepathica, so they're under a different High Lord too.
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>>97385825
There are other options, Leaklessiarch
>Leaker misread
>Leaker was a bit of a joker
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>>97385836
People buy sisters of battle just fine, why do you think people wouldn't buy sisters++?
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>>97385844
I usually just drop my mini here, write some lore blurp on them, and maybe ask advice on list building, and leave and occasionally read and maybe respond some (You)s.
If I see any harassment, I'd only take it as jealous seething. That said, so far I dont have any. But seeing how you guys treat some of the painters here, its something that's possible any time.
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>>97385849
>to whatever Emperor commands personally
which just so happens to be very specifically custodians and sisters
>Sisters aren't integral part
yes, they are, the writers and designers made up the concept of the talons of the emperor only with and due to the sisters of silence, and at no point were the emperor's forces called talons before the moment the sisters joined.

>They're actually part of Adeptus Astra Telepathica
only on a formal level, in practical terms they do whatever they want (read: have to)
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>>97385777
liar
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Can you teach me more about Death Guard? They look like fun models to paint, but I am bit said they don't have the "classic" demon engine warmachines, like forgefiends and helldrakes, and I like some of the CSM units (possessed, cultists) that never seem to appear in Deatch Guard boxes too. Is there a way to get them and claim that the chaos and accursed cultists are actually poxwalkers or something?
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>>97385821
>sisters have to be paired with someone else, grey knights are the ideal candidates.
stupid statement
absolutely
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>>97385852
The meta answer is "because Sisters of Silence are a knockoff of Sisters of Battle that only exist because the HH setting GW wanted to do could not have Sisters of Battle."
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>>97385836
>No one would buy product if product had no support!
>I don't care about women myself so I think everybody is the same, I just love seeing fans suffer because I'm deeply mentally ill and incapable of empathy.
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>>97385821
>Sisters deserve the attention, can stand on their own
They literally can't.
We saw what happened in 7th edition. The codex sold so poorly that GW just folded them into the custodes codex in 8th.
You will get your SoS models soon enough or in Horus Heresy 4.0.
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>>97385885
That's not a reason why people wouldn't buy sisters of silence at all.
If anything people love the knockoffs and expansions that the horus heresy shaped up.
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>>97385825
There are no bikers. Model making can go over time, shift of resources and time. Models need to be redone and then theres less time to make X. if CSM had new bikes they'd have released by now. They were never made for whatever reason
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>>97385879
you can probably get away with running cultists as poxwalkers if they have similar enough equipment and you tell your opponent beforehand
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>>97385836
>No one would buy SoS if they weren't in the Custodes codex
I would.
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Ok why the fuck doesn't the Dreadblades rule scale with army size?

You telling me whether I'm playing 1000 points or 3000 points I'm always limited to one big chungus? That don't make no sense.
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>All these SoS posts
do any of you even own any Sisters of Silence
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>>97385884
male / female
psykers / nulls
ordered to keep the emperor on the throne / ordered to keep the throne functional

They mirror and complete each other perfectly.
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>>97385836
If they weren't in the cuckstodes book then they would get their own shit, then people would buy them.
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>>97385894
>We saw what happened in 7th edition. The codex sold so poorly that GW just folded them into the custodes codex in 8th.
custodes were part of the same agents of the imperium codex
as were SoB, deathwatch and inquisition

why lie?
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>>97385799
If I'm here shitposting I'll definitely never post my models, it will just put you on the radar of the insane people trying to police the thread (the ones that sunk their fangs into the decalfreak). I noticed when people would post grey stuff they'd start saying
>oh you don't have painted models you don't paint secondary??
very obviously wanting to goad people to posting something that will mark them
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>>97385871
Talons were all sorts of other things including Titans and the Assassins (which existed before the SoS), the only constant are the Custodes.
SoS were even persecuted and many driven off from Terra by mutant-hating zealots and their pogroms after the Heresy, so much of them being "equal to the Custodes" or even under their protection.
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>>97385884
They pair much better than they did with custodes. And Grey knights are all male
>>97385909
You get it
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>>97385908
Yeah, me. Its one of my biggest gripe on the update. They could expand on the faction, make SoS more important. Instead they redid the plastic kits for perfectly fine minis while neglecting the two kits that needs updates like pic rel.

The fallacious "people complaining dont own/paint/play their models" argument dont work on me.
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>>97385909
let's put these blanks next to these powerful psykers to see how long until they die of intracranial hemorrhage
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>>97385921
still does not mean they shouldnt get a 30k release, especially when 30k previously gave them jetbikes and stuff
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>>97385902
its to stop people from saying I'm playing CSM and then showing up with a chaos knight army and 10 cultists.
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>>97385901
They already got their own minidex during 7e, no one bought them. SoB could stand on their own even with a WD splat and eventually got a proper sized codex again.
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>>97385908
I am The Emperors most silent soldier.
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>>97385836
This is the unsavory truth. And people here can't handle it, basically 99% of the fanbase don't care about the SoS and never have.
And we know it is true because in 7th edition sisters of silence had their own codex. And it sold so badly, that GW just unceremouniously shoved them into the Codex Custodes and pretended that's how it always was.
Which is hilarious, because GW didn't even bother changing the name to "Codex: Talons of the Emperor", because they know why people actually bought the Custodes Codex, it's to play custodes. Ie. GW knows that people only care about custodes.
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>>97385926
It wasn't that, i just wanted to see SoS models since I really like them and I only ever see one person post them.
The bald look really works on that one, damn.
I have not seen one done like that but it looks great
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>>97385934
>Gee I wonder why nobody played the micro faction composed of 5 (five, V, IIIII) quasi monopose minis
Are you winter time room temperature IQ?
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>>97385936
>once again lying
they were in agents of the imperium alongside custodes, SoB, deathwatch and inquisition
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>>97385936
>And we know it is true because in 7th edition sisters of silence had their own codex.
Couldn't possibly be another reason why an army from that era failed. I think if Sisters was made their own army today they'd do a lot better
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>>97385911
No, they had their own codex, pic related. It was only 24 pages, which is the same amount the 7th custodes codex had.
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>>97385926
>while neglecting the two kits that needs updates like pic rel.
You'll get them in the next refresh.
GW drip feeds all of their releases now so they can maxmize profits.
Yes, it sucks. No, they won't change it.
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SoS were the female equivalent to the custards. Nobody was interested in them. However, in this day and age, things can't be segregatedby sex, apparently. And this means that femoids have to be shoved into everything, even if it's just to appease 1% of the community and to tick some DEI-boxes to get that Fink-buck grant. Truly, the west has fallen.
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>The same people who said the Emperor's Children were "unfinished" and an "unplayable mess" with their codex with 22+ datasheets are now declaring a Sisters book with 4 datasheets a "fully supported release" and "eminently playable"
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Shut up
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>>97385894
>We saw what happened in 7th edition
We did, you evidently didn't

7th edition was a clusterfuck of mini-codexes meant to squeeze as much revenue as possible, they were not meant to be genuine standalone factions, and they were released together and meant to be together even then
sisters and custodes got 2 "separate" codexes in 7th in the same exact way the admech got two separate codexes, and dark eldar got 2 separate codexes, and shortly before in 6th the imperial guard got two separate codexes

they were all terribly written and terribly supported and they came at gw's lowest point
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>>97385956
I lost interest already. The new custodes looks nothing like existing one aesthetically. They would clash so much next to my army.
I was hoping for an expansion of the range, not a complete stylistic overhaul of a 10 years old kit that is still perfectly fine.
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>>97385964
It's entirely playable for a microfaction that shouldn't even have rules or models.
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>>97385953
a token set of rules because they needed rules

now lets look at their 30k 2nd edition armylist...
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>>97385969
7th truly was the fucking worst
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>>97385973
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>>97385841
I highly doubt you're even in top 10 of the painters here
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>>97385973
how did they manage to squeeze so many units out of the limited range of models?
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>>97385836
>>97385936
>people won't buy female minis
>not even the people screeching about female minis
>better force the other players into it
>this makes the others the unreasonable ones
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>>97385921
>Talons were all sorts of other things including Titans and the Assassins
not at the time the term was made by the writers and artists
>the only constant are the Custodes.
at no point before the introduction of sisters were they called the emperor's talons, the term itself is about the TWO talons of the eagle, the emperor's figurative right and left hands

>so much of them being "equal to the Custodes" or even under their protection.
irrelevant strawman, the time immediately after the heresy was one of turmoil regardless and the sisters have cemented back into a role that's closely tied to the imperial palace, just like custodes
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Your move, Huron.
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>>97385992
I'm 100% sure they were supposed to get a range refresh
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>>97385992
termite is a fake unit. like how FW would start throwing in tarantula guns into every one of their lists
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>>97386003
ah, are most of these units "kitbash required" in that case?
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>>97385936
>And it sold so badly
fake narrative
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>>97385992
You literally just swap weapons and that's it.
Also this is actually the same amount of units if not more than what custodes had iirc at the time too.
Both of them were released with 1 kit each originally during the burning of prospero.
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>>97385992
rules with no models, which is why people want SoS stuff

they basically made an entirely new faction for heresy, give them interesting rules and units (jetbikes, snipers, command squads, medics, beastmasters etc), then completely gut them for 3rd edition (they have 4 units) and focus on yet another custodes release
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>>97386012
why didn't they then fold custodes into the sisters of silence codex then?
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>>97386014
no, this was HH2nd edition in 2022/2023
custodes already had all their plastic and FW stuff, SoS only had jenetia krole, the plastic kit, the submarine and bolt pistol upgrades
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>>97386011
Yes.
Some were really odd, you had a squad that had a tracker animal which could be a cyber-hound or a cyber-raptor and i think there was a 3rd option.
They all vanished when 3rd ed came out.
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>>97385986
List them
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>>97385974
7th had way better core rules than 10th. It’s the lists and balance that was the issue. At least back then if both played played in good faith it was fun. Unlike today.
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>>97386028
me
that one guy
them
uhh that other guy
woman
ork poster
sister man
man sister
red marines poster
not you
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>>97386015
>rules with no models
>then completely gut them for 3rd edition
Yeah, this isn't at all surprising and explains why those units no longer exist in HH 3.0. We live in the post-Chapter House lawsuit world. GW no longer have "rules with no models" shit specifically because of that lawsuit.
And also seeing the amount of fucking units that list has, which seems to be around 11, it is funny to me that people expected that GW would make models for all of those.
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>>97385239
Sorry bros i hate mommystodes too but the models look too good
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>>97385936
A lot of minor armies with only a few kits had tiny little codexes of their own at the time.
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>>97386042
except the 2nd edition army list was made in said post-chapterhouse world
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>>97386021
>custodes already had all their plastic and FW stuff
Custodes got most of their plastic in 8th edition during 2018.
Burning of prospero was during 7th edition in 2016
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>>97386049
no no what i'm saying is that when that armylist was made, custodes had their full range minus the fat shieldcaptain with the melta spear
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>>97386048
Ok, so you'd be fine and not mad if GW had removed all of those units in HH 2.0? That certainly would've gone over much better, totally.
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>>97385969
6th made me quit the game for a decade. 7th stopped me from wanting to come back.
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>>97386056
what i'd like is the very obvious "we can support sisters by doing these units" to happen instead of "we're updating custodes again and giving them new shit while sisters get nothing"
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Why are these bitches so expensive? Is this a bald tax or a woman tax?
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>>97386068
They're high class bimbos, what else do you expect?
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>>97386059
And you will get those updated sister units next time.
Welcome to modern 40k , it's all about drip feeding and it is not going to change.
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>>97385936
>GW knows that people only care about custodes
Those aren't people. People don't care about Custodes OR SoS.
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That's def a lightsabre
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>>97385705
Belakor is a MUST if you want to be a meta fag. But hes a massive art project so I would only get him if your heart is really in it. I really like Belakor as a character + his model but people seem to really hate him and shit on him a lot.
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>>97386001
Kinda kek that chaos corsairs have trophies but eldar are not. Yriel even lose his tyranid tactical rock
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>>97386087
All that is going to do is stab him in the dick if accidentaly activates.
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>>97386072
NOT 10 A MODEL HIGH CLASS
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>>97385239
Spent the morning in different facebook groups, instagram, reddit etc and its clear every single person who plays this game loves femstodes outside /pol/ lmao

You fuckers will not be missed.
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>>97386068
>Shaving your head and wearing contact lenses for a cosplay
dam
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>>97386083
Yeah, we have seen how quick players all drop custodes at once the second they are no longer a meta Army. Custodes appeal to ultra casual for the fantasy of them, and ultra sweaty players for being cheap, portable, and easy to play quickly with few activations while on the clock. But they are an ideal second Army and nobody's first pick. Kind of like Knights.
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>>97385841
Nigga, you didn't even round out their heads after messily cutting off their top knots. They have FLAT HEADS.
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>>97386098
That's always been pretty obvious. 4chan main MO is contrarianism and always has been.
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>>97386098
>Spent his entire day glued into his social media slop filter bubble
>Has also allowed this to form his entire world view
holy fucking shit. What a self own.
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Guys...
I think I like the femstodes...
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>>97386122
You talk like /tg/ isn't its own bubble.
Irony at its finest.
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>>97386133
They are cute, as Imperial Citizen, they would make me feel safe and protected.
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>>97386135
/tg/ is just a chronological list of posts with fuck all moderation. Its nothing like your slopsites.
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Ah. So that's why they haven't restocked any of the Drukhari units in 4 months...
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>>97386098
>I've spent the day on social media channels that are inundated by people who brag about the amount of their mental illnesses and I cherrypicked comments to suit my trolling agenda
I've yet to find a single actual player of this game irl who liked the femstodes change. Only mentally ill reddit incels like it, not the actual players.
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>>97386133
GW won
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>>97386000
They're in the custard codex only because no one wants to buy them otherwise and even there they're a tax in any mixed detachment.
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>>97386133
It's okay to think for yourself. I give you permission.
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>>97386139
Fair, but these threads are certainly a bubble, evidenced by the fact that the same 10-20 people keep talking here.
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>>97386148
>>97386122
You wont be missed. Leave my hobby
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>>97386148
I like it.
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>>97386163
No anon :( I think I'm gonna keep coming to these threads to bully poor GW and upset you :((((
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>>97386137
>thinking Kekstodes care about anyone that isn't Big E
Lol
Lmao
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>>97386087
>how do I turn this thing on?
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>>97386168
GW dont give a shit, they've made record breaking profits since introducing primaris, female custodes and load more female representation across all factions. You fucking lost.

Money proves inclusivity wins. You fuckers dont buy shit, at best if you do play you 3D print awful looking models because we all know right wingers cant understand art.

You lost, you keep losing and you will always lose. Fuck off, you will not be missed.
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>>97385333
pert already got a short story with honsou where they play stellaris with rocks and sticks that's of better quality than Fulgrim's entire book
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>>97386179
Holy shit the seething hot tears. Oooh no. Was someone saying bad things about the company you like? Awww.
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>>97385239
>soulless vs soul
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Apologize to Abaddon
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>>97386179
I sort of agree with the first part but there are rightoids who are amazing artists. Artists dont have to be good people, I dont know why leftists think this way. They are constantly surprised when amazing artists turn out to be bad people. There is no link between being a good artist and being on any side of the culture war or a good person.

Neil Gaiman was a personal hero of mine and he turned out to be a deranged sex pest (and got good omens S3 cancelled right after the angel and demon kissed)
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>>97386179
God I fucking hate Primaris so fucking much
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>>97386179
>they've made record breaking profits since introducing primaris, female custodes and load more female representation across all factions.
It is really funny to me how true this is. And people at the same time expect GW to stop.
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>>97386193
>Abaddon
No, fuck you. Chaos has one Glorious Enlightened Divine Supreme Leader, and it isn't Abaddon.
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>>97386193
is there any difference between the builds in the body? because if there isn't just stick a helmet and nobody will care and helmeted custodes ALWAYS look cooler than the ones without
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>>97386193
I really like the 3rd one. The first one is tolerable, its more an issue with the paint job. The second one is... holy tranny status. She literally has SSJ3 skull deformity.
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>>97386202
Yeah, the femoids are slimmer and have boobplate(but subtle and flat enough to not be offensive)
Compare these two models
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>>97386200
People haven't been attracted by women models though. Its been boosted by video games and other media. Lack of competition as well. They had a few competitors a few years ago, they've all totally lost steam.
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>>97385304
>you like sex don't you? Why are you against men sticking their dick in your ass?
Women are not the problem; the problem is the political rape of the hobby. But you already knew that you disingenuous fuck.
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>>97386209
First model is a single character model with female heads, second model is a different kit.
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>>97386193
I do find it funny that people use this image with "Horus was right." Like right about what? That Emps used women in his personal bodyguard?
And you agree with the guy who allowed himself to get corrupted by daemonic monsters that wanted to use Horus and rest of his brothers to enslave all of humanity into a fate worse than death?
It's like those sigmarxistfags who post shit like "slaanesh accepts you for who you are" shit, ah yes, to be accepted and have kinship with fucking daemons. That's a good thing.

Really sending mixed messages here.
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>>97386218
No that's the regular new kit and it's a male body and female body, jackass.
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>>97386198
Rightoid probably needs to be more well defined, even Frank Cho is considered one these days even though he'd be likely to draw lewd femstodes if he did Warhammer stuff.
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>>97386216
The hobby has been political since day 1, with Ghazghul being named after Margaret Thatcher you fucking secondary. Its always been a left wing hobby, all nerd culture stems from left wing teachings.
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So this edition, Eldar have gotten
>New Fire Dragons
>New Warp Spiders
>New Swooping Hawks
>Refreshed Asurmen
>Refreshed Baharroth
>Refreshed Fuegan
>New Lhykhis
>Refreshed Yriel
>New Kharseth
>New Skyreavers
>New Starfang
>Refreshed Vyper
Bros was this the Eldar edition?
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>>97386220
The Imperium has fallen gorillions must die.
The galaxy must burn one might say.
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>>97386230
>Ghazghul being named after Margaret Thatcher
Now this is just blatant bait.
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given the likelyhood of 11th starter being chaos and marines getting ravenguard and iw-swapped csm seems like a decent trade off
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>>97386209
Also here's the new shield captain which follows the slim design of the female model because GW really had to rub it in. There's no male shield captain anymore.
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>>97386179
>>97386200
>they've made record breaking profit since introducing primaris
No shit. Marines sell and are what keep the company alive, retard.
>female custodes and load more female representation across all factions
Kek if that was the case then why are marines the all male faction the posterboys and biggest money printers of the company?
No one cares about Cocksuckerstodes outside of faggots like you and no one buys them for femstodes, they've made money even before femstodes existed.
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Where are the Tau femboys?
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>>97386247
All stolen by the Femstodes to serve as bed-warmers.
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>>97386209
Okay, I kinda see what you mean now.
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The fact that people like red corsairs is staggering when they all look incredibly fucking awful. There is maybe 1 good individual model for every 8 model in there.
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"we have no plans for the sisters of silence" they say as they add another 9 kits to custodes
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Have you seen more women and nonwhite people in your LGS over recent years?
Because my LGS is 200% white to this day. And I live in a big city. In contrast, every single one of my coworkers belongs to a different race.
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>>97386243
femstode special character waiting room.
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>>97386258
Who fucking cares.
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>>97386246
>Kek if that was the case then why are marines the all male faction the posterboys
For now, we all know they are the next step. You have to be blind to not see it.
And no, the article they posted means genuinely fuck all. GW will always change the lore on a whim.
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>>97386264
>he hasnt read the thread
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>>97386258
GW beat those sexism allegations by releasing female custodes
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>>97386233
Wasn't striking scorpions this edition too?
And the special Autarch and the special spirit seer
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>>97386240
11th starter is orks vs blood angels, anon

raven wing rumoured to get a refresh
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>>97386230
being a gooner has nothing to do with your stance on the political spectrum. anti women incels still goon, in fact they goon more than most. plenty of gooner artists are incels.
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>>97386238
You think that a character who was made around the time of thatcher, by a company who at the time did not like thatcher, just so happened to have a name that sounds just like hers, but also who’s nickname is “the iron ork”. That’s one hell of a coincidence
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>>97386267
Cawl finally reverse-engineers the rest of Emperor's stuff and creates a female primarch, whose gene-seed works on women.
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>>97386258
Women shouldn't have to share an army with men.
They have to constantly worry about being raped because straight men are awful and can't control themselves.
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>>97386256
Red Corsairs are good for CSM variety and the unique models are good for kitbashing
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Seriously this shit looks so fucking bad. No sauce whatsoever. Also dude pelts are the laziest fucking cadslop asset to produce I swear. And mk3 is disgusting to be subjected to.
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>>97386243
If you put a male head on this no one would notice at all.
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>>97386277
guh.. guh..
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>>97386273
im not up to date on leaks it seems but that's no biggie then
>>97386278
would that be a gene-egg instead of geneseed?
>>97386258
alas most people play for the bananas and sometimes begrudgingly include a single SoS for sticky without using a CP
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>>97386285
Presumably you, the guy who built and owns it and and knew it was a female body would know.
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>>97386280
40k women are strong enough to defend themselves from rape. The last time it happened was in those decanonized Jaq Draco books and even then it was chaos marine on human,
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>>97386281
>good for kitbashing
Im not putting anything here anywhere near my wip chaos marine army with Hh stuff. This shit looks obtuse and ugly. Even the bits are fucking lacking, the reveal for the upgrade sprue is on par with the tzaangor one.
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>>97386270
I thought they were late last edition? Maybe I'm misremembering
Also I didn't count the Anniversary/WH+ models since they weren't actual units, but that is kinda big.
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>>97386284
Are you the same guy who was ranting about how bad the new space wolf release was last year?

They look fucking amazing idk what you're smoking. Instead of huffing contrarian flavored copeium how about you open your eyes.

I especially love the arm thats tossing the smoke grenade, >>97385658 its a clever sculpt
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>>97386289
Maybe it should be gene-ova to be a bit less on the nose, like how gene-sperm got changed.
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>>97386273
>11th starter is orks vs blood angels
>Not generic space marines
I have a bridge to sell you, anon
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>>97386291
I don't understand how you're retarded enough to take that post at face value.
But 40k women are no stronger than IRL. They don't get raped because the topic is too taboo for kiddy fiction.
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>>97386290
I put a male head on it and picture him underneath the armor as an oiled up 9 foot tall bronze skinned ripped giga chad with a thick veiny cock to worship. gg ez.
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>>97386295
They are kinda meh but not unsalvageable. I expected a better head sculpt for Huron though but GW's quality control on faces is awful, I hope the IW models will be better at least.
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>>97386302
>40k women are no stronger than IRL
Yes they are. Not just going to stats, but inquisitors hiring some amazon gladiators for their retinue's muscle in BL books etc. If the highest ranking spooks in the Imperium don't go for male thugs for that there's no reason to assume the women are weaker.
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>mfw your boss says the tranny sculpt is due by the end of the day
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>>97386243
>there's no male shield captain anymore
with the announced custom special character rules, you can make a shield captain that is truly /yourdude/
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>>97386317
The average 40k human is not made out to be any different genetically from a modern human.
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>>97386298
I don’t give a fuck about imperial models, they all look the same, much like these chaos models. Well, “chaos”, this shit has nothing clever going on about it. It looks like a complete copy paste of previous shit with nothing going on. Even the new generic hq is just a lazy redo of another chaos lord with nothing going for it.

this “chaos” release is a spiritual loyalist marine release, it’s fucking boring and it’s slop.
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Thoughts on using burlap as a desert battle mat ala the felt cloth of old? Or should I just get tan felt?
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>>97385238
Are Iron Warriors being added as an actual playable faction? Or is this Horus Heresy crap? Or is it a Kill Team?
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>>97386284
Imagine them but you don't paint them brown and go for the good looking head options.
Yep, suddenly pretty nice.
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>Only a couple more models for Eldar remain to be refreshed
Dark Eldar are next, yes?
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This entire female custodes disaster just shows that its not about representation but "corrupting" something established.
40k always had female representation in Sisters of Battle, Sisters of silence, Craftworld Eldar, Dark Eldar and Tau but apparently that is not enough and never will be.
>retcons happen all the time
Yes, and people always hate them.
Problem is that this isn't done to improve something like the Necron space tomb kings retcon but for pure political reasons.
>it doesn't matter just put the helmet on
If it doesn't matter then why change it in the first place? Also we know that some bodies are specially for females.
>but the muscle amazonian coomer shit
I'm also a coomer but fanart/fancanon should just stay exactly that, fanworks and not be represented in the tabletop.
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>>97386323
To be fair, Huron and his tax evaders are former loyalist that turned traitor in the "modern" era and most of them aren't from the heresy. But yes, I agree GW has been lazy as shit with some of the marine releases due to them knowing marinefags will buy regardless.
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I am in the process of building my first army. Is it a common thing that Games workshop misprints their part numbers? I found 2 pairs of scaffolds with the same number?
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>>97386319
>mfw my balls get stuck to my leg in summer and I have to do a wierd stretch to unstick them.
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If you ignore sexual dimorphism, I guess.
Even when both sexes are brought to their absolute physical peat there would still be a difference between the two.
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>>97386351
Anon, it's been 10 years of this shit and only now are we finally seeing the fallout of it. Concord was the spark of it all crumbling down.
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>>97386362
Sometimes you just get multiple of the same sprue. It's not a mistake, some of the kits have duplicates that you make look different by choosing different options for the body like different weapons and arms.
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>>97386323
It's funny because I remember people complaining about the new CSM models looking too much like renegades instead of legionaries and now that we see what actual renegades look like...
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>>97386368
peak*
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>>97386368
Space marines should just stop having silly recruitment and initiations since the end result is always the same anyway.
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So are "old" 40k custodes models staying or are there guys also replacing them since they're plastic? Didn't watch the stream.
>>97386362
What kit, if you don't mind me asking?
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>The woke is being put away in every other aspect of life
>GW still pushing
Is this just a case of them being forever behind the times like they always have been?
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>>97386368
And here we have the autist in the wild, boldly declaring that the fantasy in his head is more important than the fantasy in other people's heads. Especially that writer of the fantasy that he has made his entire personality. He cannot taught, instructed or enlightened. He can, however, annoy the fuck out of everyone who has the misfortune of meeting him.
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>>97386368
>obvious bait post is obvious
Regardless, the Imperium has some crazy bio-enhancement tech, it is 38000 years in the future afterall.
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I wonder if the female custodes are sterile.
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>>97386385
Don't forget that models are produced in 3 year cycles, so this shit was in the pipeline at least that long if not longer.
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>>97386319
I don't mind the new femstodes, but I agree that face is very bad. It does look like they just took a male head and quickly copypasted a ponytail onto it at last minute.
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>>97386368
Its a world with space elves and orks, flying tanks, space demons, ships travel through hell, wizards in every army and giant space frogs. Shut the fuck up and go play some other chud game. You will not be missed.
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>>97386385
>The woke is being put away in every other aspect of life
Extremely optimistic
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>>97386402
I forget that people unironically say chud sometimes.
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>>97386385
>The woke is being put away in every other aspect of life
Name 5. Because it fucking isnt you lying fuck. Trump has definitely ruined it for you sexist, fascist cunts. You wont be missed
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>>97386386
Kek, true
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>>97386401
I hope it's another case of 'Eavy Metal not being able to paint women's faces, we will have to wait and see what it looks like in the hands of a competent painter.
I've always wondered why GW painters don't learn real makeup techniques or something, I feel like they'd apply well to the female minis.
>>97386396
presumably yes, and presumably this means the custodes spend their free time fucking like rabbits
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Just fuck my shit up
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>>97386251
Nooooo!!!!!
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>>97386416
Is that metal part just nailed into his skill?
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>>97386396
This is what I find the most annoying about this retcon.
The emperor specifically didn't make female marines because he didn't want them to replace normal humans but apparently he didn't give a fuck about that with custodes?
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>>97386409
it is a pretty funny word to say ironically
>>97386416
The plume looks bolted to his skull. Based if true
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>>97386408
Yea it is anon.
It was always bullshit slop that would be sidelined the second powerful people no longer needed it.
Not to say it doesn't shit things up but it really is a distraction meant to get vent energy and make people directionbrained.
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>>97386368
>lore says the process is alchemical magic
>that means it can do whatever i want, chud
they're really digging deep into sophistry to explain the existence of trannies in power armor
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>>97386410
How did you find your way here? Lmao, you sound like an imgur boomer.
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>>97386379
Some people would definitely want that, regardless of consistency with that nugget of consistent fluff.

>>97386386
>>97386394
>>97386402
(you)
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>>97386424
Yea it is a funny word, it sounds clownish. The perfect thing to say ironically.
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>>97386402
All the chud games suck unfortunately. I guess historicals have a higher tolerance for it, but I think its mostly autism making people not really care about the other people beyond being a vehicle to access the war game.
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>>97386346
GW splits their focus between the various Eldar factions so yeah, they'll probably do a Drukhari update next.
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>>97386402
>le ford focus argument
lel
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>>97386409
I mean its basically just a meme way to say rightoid, just like the right has plenty of meme ways to call leftoids. The funny thing about it is that chud was popularized by the right itself mostly.
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>>97386431
>consistency with that nugget of consistent
Oof. Need to proofread better, next time.
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>erm, it's [current year] in the setting, they have the technology
oh no no no no
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>>97386429
>>lore says the process is alchemical magic
To be fair when you bring actual magic (biomancy) into an equation, shit like IRL rules stop applying.
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>>97386368
Actually, it says right there that they are equally as strong. No need to ignore anything, its just a fact. The writers said it so its true. They are equally as strong, including sexual dimorphism.

Probably has something to do with the sci fi elements of the setting if I thought really hard about it and had to guess.
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>>97386382
The Warhammer 40k introductory set.
>>97386371
I see makes sense. I will try to figure it out by checking wich parts i am left with after i assembled them all.
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>>97386209
I know these two bodies look pretty significantly different, but there's actually no difference in physical performance between them. None at all.
Crazzy right?
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What's the next race from Fantasy that they should add into 40k?
>Got all the Elves as Wood Elves are Exodites
>We have Dwarves as Votann
>Undead split across multiple factions with Blood Angels being Vampires, Poxwalkers being Zombies, and Necrons being Tomb Kings
The only two I can think of are Lizardmen or Skaven.
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>>97386470
too bad, you're getting another variant of marines, fuck you
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>>97386470
The day Skavenfags and rat posters come to 40k is the day I leave the hobby.



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