Previous: >>97383956>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQPost your pet cards?Bonus TQ:Can you go one thread without saying UB, UW, slop, pig, or proxy?
>jannies delete hand-drawn diaper Baylen card posted to mock 3/3 Elk as a “troll post”>AI goblin goon proxy slop is fine thoughJannies=trannies as ever. Go Jack off to your green AI waifus you revolting balding troons
TQ>it's gonna be a GC btw
>TQ I loved him when I first laid eyes on him
BIG APPLETHREE AM
>>97396788Few years time. Game hasn’t been powercrept enough for it yet, youre going to be waiting a while
>>97396799People still think B3 is just B2 + 3 GCs, they need to be reminded to stay in their lane
>>97396741I want to see your deck and I can always see your commander.
>TQI really love this stupid thing. >BonusProxy is not a dirty word
>>97396741>TQThe only thing I dislike about it is that I didn't particularly love Theros block.
>>97396741>TQI just think he's neat.
cheap card for a lot of proliferate
If I can't say it, niggers can't post UB AIslop coomer proxies.
>>97396741>TQIt shuts off so much stupid bullshit
>>97396797>may
>>97396954Sir this thread is a safe space from buzzwords
>>97396982That is actually pretty good. Its kind of nuts that it works on mana abilities too, thats typically a no-no in design space
>>97396982Is there a way to animate opponents lands? That would be a hilarious soft lock
>>97397079Locks you too, but yeah
>>97396741>TQI love this little toolbox, but I couldn't justify how much blue it ate up in my Breya list.
>>97397053That stipulation pretty much only exists on effects that would otherwise apply to lands.
>>97397079The only thing that can do it to an opponent is only until end of turn, but its on a creatures activation, so no, its impossible.
>>97397091It's an old combo btw
Is there any specific deck(s) that causes your pod (or LGS) to irrationally seethe? Format whatever reason, everyone at my LGS absolutely shits their pants if you play Eldrazi or Slivers.
>>97397113Imagine being this wrong.
>>97397166Hatebears, for some reason. It's not even particularly good in the format.
>>97397167Post something that animates only opponents lands then.
>>97397166>irrationally seethe?>sliversIf the deck is reasonably well made it's not irrational at all. Slivers are like a check for board wipes, if nobody draws 1-2 wipes within the first 5 or 6 turns, Slivers just entirely takes over the game.
>>97397166My regular pod think my pillowfort deck is "bullshit" and "stops them from playing the game" because it has things like forcefield, ensnaring bridge, and crawlspace in it.
>>97397166Not seethe exactly but people always disproportionately react to pic related.As soon as it gets to 5 life drain per turn they act like they're all dead next turn and target me. Fucking infuriating.
I wish there was a Commander version of Arena so I could have drop-in games with strangers instead of needing to try to get all my friends together before I can even test a new deck
>>97397359Spelltable
>>97396797sovl
>>97397359I'd like this too but I know any internet dorks I would play with would be soulless sweatlords with dumb decks instead of "hey guys I built a mid-budget chatterfang deck to play against my normie friends mind if I try it out against your princesses and unicorns lathiel and rafiq decks?"
>TQI put this in almost all my blue decks.
Fixing up my Counter Intelligence precon. Is there a specific reason to keep this card? I get is can potentially be a 1 mana draw 2 with some blink shenanigans, but I feel like once you have 6 artifacts out you should swing to win at the point or just play something better.
>>97397729Oh and if anyone has any obvious upgrades I should do let me know. Trying to keep it a bracket 3 card so no GC or infinites
>>97397675Insane how slept on this card is. I have to explain what it does at least twice every time I play it.
>>97397729Its really good at triggering Scrap Trawler, and its a double cantripping blocker. I like it.
>>97397675>>97397872
>>97397675Cards with foretell and morph unless you are making a deck entirely full of these after a few games with the same people everyone knows what it is going to be and will hold stuff up for it.
>>97397894There is absolutely no reason to cast this for its foretell cost. It nets 3 mana instead of 2 and you don't get any additional effects for foretelling it.
>>97397943Niche, but foretelling does protect it from hand rip and wheels
>>97397968Greeniggers get the rope
>>97397968ok cracker
>>97397968Tell us how you really feel.
>>97397968I do most of these and I'm black
>>97398123No coom proxies?
>>97397968Riddle me this: why would I EVER pay JOTC or a """speculator""" for a card when the bootlegs are literally identical? You can't even tell them apart from a legit card aside from the green orb test, and even that is questionable these days with the shit print quality.
>sea creature (blue)>cares about artifacts (mainly blue gimmick)>art is predominantly blue (blue)>is monored red
>>97397166one guy just recently proxied 3 new decks: elrazi, helga and ur dragon xDwe are all okay with proxies but yea if youre just a cuck who proxies the craziest shit lol....most guys make full decks and then just proxy a few cards.
>>97398148>Why would I be a nigger when I'm already a nigger who can't read a full post and chimps out halfway through.
4chan(nel) is just cool with overt racism now? Not copacetic Hiro, not radical at all...
>>97398148>Bottom of the shitpost says not buy cards either.>Only makes it to the second line before he immediately has a visceral emotional reaction and has to defend his behavior.Only people who deep down know they're full of shit or people with massive persecution complexes do this shit.Nigga, get your life together.
No one has even noticed that the OP links back to the wrong previous>>97390903
>>97398257thanks
>>97398148because this means you are F2P and like every other F2P faggot their opinions are not to be taken seriously whatsoever
Lmao why the fuck is lorwyn collector booster box 200 dollars above msrp (I couldve bought it for 250, its going for low 400s online). Maybe its the last good UB well get for a while?
>>97398292I'm pretty sure MSRP of collector booster boxes are around $320USD.
>>97396741Why is Ajani greenish now? When I saw a thumbnail I thought it's a hairy Orc. And why is his weapon bending so oddly?
>>97398148Writing "mountain" on a swamps is even cheaper, does the same thing, and doesn't involve trying to pull the wool over your opponents eyes, who wouldn't give a shit if you were just honest to begin with.The only reason why you would buy bootlegs is because you want the appearance that your cards are legit, which just makes you a faggot.
what are the most complicated edh decks to pilot? The ones that really cook your brain to play
>toying with the idea of making a Maralen Fae Ascendant deck>budget as fuck>ah geez dood I'd definitely need a High Fae Trickster and that's like a $5 card these days>dig through my bulk anyway looking for faeries and elves>have a copy of HFTSometimes past-me is pretty okay
>>97398320tymna kraum cedh
>>97398313Thats crazy, sware the my local LGS had preorders at 250. Maybe im misremembering. Oh well this set didnt have any cards i couldnt buy as singles, the only chase are the anime versions which are more cringe than UB.
>>97398292>>97398327>be me>too busy to play Lorwyn at all>know I'm going to like the set no matter what>beginning of January>really think about preordering a box>one hundred and twenty (120) of good King Charles' Great British Pounds>really broke after Christmas>could maaaaaybe do it but it'd be such a squeeze>fuck it, I'll wait until February>check again today>place I was looking at has put it up to £140Fuckers. I hate this price adjusting bullshit, retailers should be forced to sell at MSRP. It's not like buying from a fucking scalper on eBay, these people have contracts with WotC, they could be forced to sell sealed product at certain price points.
>>97398320In cEDH it's Tayam if you want results. Honestly, it's probably something that has to do with a lot of adding and removing counters like that, superfriends, or sagas.Topdeck-matters can be difficult too, especially if there is a mill or Etali-esque deck you go up against.
>>97396788UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
Dug up my Staff of Domination to build a deck with the Brigid I pulled at the prerelease and by the time I had found the fucking thing it didn't feel all that interesting to build anymore.
Would you rather make a Sepiroth Fabled Soldier or Braids Arisen Nightmare deck? Torn between the two. Braids is less popular and imo seems more powerful. Sepiroth just needs a lot more setup too.
>>97398346Its dumb. The avatar set has far stronger cards but its currently cheaper than Lorwyn, while also actually be around msrp for a UB (380 i think).
Found this if anyone is interested. Not sure if I trust it to buy it, but it should usually be a good return.https://www.etsy.com/listing/4439342044/avatar-the-last-airbender-collector
>>97398478That's either stolen goods or fake. I wouldn't trust it
I would have preferred the Hobbit cards got spoiled over the tmnt cards
>>97398257We noticed, we just know that op is a pretty little reddit admintier antiubfag who thinks not back linking to previous threads with UB cards as the pic is some epic victory.
>>97398429Between the two, I prefer Sephiroth because Braids "may" makes it feel too inconsistent. Are you just looking to sac and burn?
>>97398478Sealed packs sold on Etsy? That sounds fishy as fuck.
>>97398516Yeah slow burn game. With Braids I can draw multiple cards the same turn I play her which IMO gives me a bigger head start than what Sepiroth can do.
>>97396741Used this guy at pre-releaseDidn't help much.
>>97396797People can keep comparing this to spider-man (solely because of their fictional locales) but this set has already been shown to be a thousand times more soulful and interesting than spooder shit was
>>97397166My pod? No. None of us ever take shit seriously like that. The only time someone may get upset is if someone makes a terrible decision that everyone is telling them is a bad fucking decision. And even then it's just slight annoyance in the voice and nothing more.Shit, I got my turns skipped for 8 fucking turns in the pod and I just laughed about it and joked. This game isn't for taking seriously.
>>97398156>150 dollary doos
Nonblue player here,I've been trying to brew this guy I've been having a lot of trouble. It feels like he just dies too easily and is too hard to flip for too little payoff. Does anyone else feel like he should have had 4 toughness and only needed you to draw a second card? He already has 0 power and his abilities are all kinda weak except the ult.
>>97398590You're in blue, do you have any idea how easy it is to draw cards in blue???
>>97398590what whatever value there is, tamiyo is a chick
so wizards fucked up and put regular TNMT cards on the promo packs or what??what is goin on??
>>97398590This is the most commander only brained post I have seen in a while.
>>97398681the prerelease rare had tmnt rares in their place, mostly seems to be an issue on the west coast from what i read.
>>97398681Yes, it's exactly that. Doesn't seem to have been intentional since only some apparently gave them out? But point is we have a bunch of turtle cards now.
>>97398681TMNT ended up on prerelease promos.That's the fact.Whether or not it was an intentional fuck up is another thing.
>>97398724I don't know why people think it is so hard to believe that wotc just fucked up.Makes far more sense than the conspiracies.
>>97398744I agree, but I have to acknowledge that the tinfoiltards exist.
I can't tell if this is going to become some 30 dollar card. I need it for EggmanAlso>Krang can beat the shit out of Sauron
>>97398772i hate every single thing on this postplease stop
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>>97398772I'd think he's a little too expensive mana wise to be expensive on the second hand market.
>>97398744Because WotC is a shitty company that does shitty things?The bottom line comes down to whether you believe WotC would attempt to sabotage in-universe sets and promote UB sets because UB sets are more profitable and they know that going back on everything they ever said about UB to scrap in-universe sets would be a PR disaster unless they could claim in-universe just doesn't sell anymore.If you aren't prepared to believe that, then no amount of evidence regarding Lorwyn pre-release can change your mind, don't even bother replying.If you are willing to believe that, then there is plenty of evidence that this was intentional:>This has never happened before. EVER.You can point to any other printing error you like, you can scream until you're blue in the face that they shipped the wrong Hatsune Miku Secret Lair this one time, but the fact of the matter is there has NEVER been a time where cards from a set 4 months from release somehow ended up in boxes for the current set.>Final Fantasy made a billion dollars, companies love money>Lorwyn already lost its spot in 2025 to make room for a UB set>Lorwyn had the shortest preview window of any set in the last few years, at just 17 full days before release>before Jan 5, more cards had been previewed of TMNT and Marvel individually than all of Lorwyn combined>the lying viper, Mark Rosewater, went back on assurances of UB not being more than 50% of sets by saying that he said they "didn't plan" to make it more than 50% at the time he said it and not that they wouldn'tWhen you actually look at this in totality, it actually looks quite plausible.WotC can't take in-universe sets out back and shoot them in the head because it would be too much too soon and fans would revolt.But if in-universe sets just aren't selling like they used to, what choice does the poor penniless corporation have but to go all in on gambling on another billion dollar cross-over?
>>97398636Most cards only let me draw 2 like quick study and apparently ones like stock up and scroll rack don't count because they don't say "draw" on them. It takes too long for me to draw 3 cards in one turn and by then anyone can just attack and kill my commander easily.
>>97398812Yeah like they never shipped MOM: Aftermath early or anything.Not like this was the center of an infamous story with the Pinkertons.
>>97398823>Yeah like they never shipped MOM: Aftermath early or anything.Avert your gaze to these words, retard: >>97398812>You can point to any other printing error you like, you can scream until you're blue in the face that they shipped the wrong Hatsune Miku Secret Lair this one time, but the fact of the matter is there has NEVER been a time where cards from a set 4 months from release somehow ended up in boxes for the current set.
>>97398830>Company has 30-year history of fuckups>No those fuckups don't count because... they just don't! THIS time they got their shit together to do it on purpose!
>>97398830Avert your own gaze to these words, schizo:>Not like this was the center of an infamous story with the Pinkertons.only someone so desperate to defend the honor of shitty UW could think of such delusions
>>97398812So does Universes Beyond really sell that much more that it's enough to offset the licensing costs? I know big ones like Lord Of The Rings and Final Fantasy exploded so they probably did but I didn't think Doctor Who or Fallout would have been enough. Either way I think it's plausible they tried to sneak in hype for turtles with this. The only thing that makes me question it is that I don't think Wizards is that competent to plot something like this.
How was your guy's prerelease events?>signed up for a 2 headed giant pre-release with buddy I haven't seen much of in 2 years.>he gets a poor deck but gets lucky draws and I got a solid deck>go 2W-1L-1D, would have been 3W, but it went into rounds and we got them to 1 life, so they ended it in a drawIt was fun. He's way better at MTG so he built the decks for us and had a better idea of what to do gameplay wise, but it stinks that the first round went into draw, so neither team got a pack. I should have just asked to flip a coin for it.I gave him the bitter bloom bearer I opened at the end as it was the only card he said he could really use from the set. Overall the set has some nice cards, but none of them seem particularly fun or interesting compared to stuff shown off in other recent sets. There was one card, "Lluwen, imperfect naturalist" that seemed fun. I never was able to use his tap effect once, but creating a bunch of worm tokens sounds silly enough to build a deck around.
>>97398795It's an artifact, it can be cheated out the exact same way as this $30 card
>>97398820You are aware you count the card you draw at the start of turn, right? She doesn't need to be on board to see it, either. You just need her to be in play when you draw the third.
>>97398823That wasn't on them. Companies send out products, some times months in advance. Then they sit in the back rooms of stores until they are able to actually sell them to the public. That is standard practice, and has been for a long time. I remember working at walmart and seeing boxes on pallets of magic cards of sets yet unreleased in the inventory system.The vendor who received aftermath sold it, though intentional, or unintenional I don't know, but the retard who got it decided to upload it, and I think calling in the pinkertons was a bit dramatic, but they guy who did it is still a retard.
>>97397975>>97397980>>97397981>>97398123Dang what'd polschizo post this time
>>97398837I didn't say those fuck ups don't count, I said they're not comparable.Again, you are incapable of pointing to any instance of this ever happening before.>oh a set got sent to influencers early!!!!>oh they sent the wrong Hatsune Miku cards!!!!!1compared to>a set that shouldn't even be in fucking print yet somehow happened to end up in pre-release boxes for a completely different setIt's easy to ship something early by accident.It's easy to get confused about which Hatsune Miku cards are being released firstIt's really fucking hard to print the wrong cards 4 months early and put them in the wrong boxes without anyone noticing.Not to mention the fact that you're ignoring all the overwhelming evidence of WotC showing favoritism to UB sets which tips the scale. Balance of probabilities, bitch.>>97398847See above.>>97398856>So does Universes Beyond really sell that much more that it's enough to offset the licensing costs?As I have explained to this general literally dozens of times it is incredibly unlikely that WotC pays any upfront licensing fees. It is vastly more likely that their contract includes a share of sales with a minimum guaranteed payout to the licensor.But in any event, LotR was tied for best selling set ever with Modern Horizons (2?), and Final Fantashit blew them both out of the water. IIRC FF made something like an entire quarter's sales by itself or some shit. So yeah, in the world in which WotC was paying up front for licenses (and they're not) UB would easily be paying for them. Even 1 billion dollar set ever couple years would justify dud sets like Spider-Man.
>>97398891>still won't mention the pinkertons because it doesn't fit his schizo narrativeconcession accepted
>>97398884>pinkertonsI'm a retard, so bear with me. If I got the story right, a random guy bought MOM before release date, yapped on social media, and then WOTC sent thugs to his home. What would have happened if he just told them to fuck off? They don't have any legal authority to harass him or steal his stuff.
>>97398896>loses argument>starts calling people "schizo">"concession accepted"Might as well be waving the white flag lmao
>>97398907don't worry UW is the one waving the white flag here, cry more
>>97398902No the USA is crazy and Pinkertons wouldn't exist if they didn't have powers.Not to mention its not "his stuff" anymore than if your boss gave you a paycheck with an extra 0. You don't become entitled to shit just because you have possession of it. The product was not for sale, ergo it's not his.
>>97398772This is a perfect card for my Doctor Who deck.
>>97398812Yeah I ain't readin ALL that
>>97398156Blue does not repeatedly ping for damage directly. Blood tokens are majority red and black. Blue having a blood token generator on a combat damage trigger that also pumps noncombat damage out would be a massive color pie break and make no sense. The only blue thing about this that it's a shark>huuurrr the art is blueMouthbreathers like you are the reason every mountain in magic is an ugly barren crag now instead of looking like what mountains actually look like (covered in lush green trees)
>>97398918Why?I have a Doctor Who deck. Ain't seein it...
>>97398919>"why do people believe X?">here's why>"I'm not reading that"Ask ChatGPT to summarise it then faggot, I don't know why you think you're so special that other people need to hear about your crippling lack of attention span
>>97398902He bought a box of MoM, and got sent MoM:Aftermath instead.He could have said "Whoa, you sent me the wrong thing!" but instead he uploaded video of him cracking all the packs. Wizards, annoyed that shit was getting leaked called in the pinkertons to go get this product that wasn't supposed to be for the public yet.Which, I would still be fine with if they gave him the product in return that he was meant to have received but afaik they just took it, "enjoy being out the money for your MoM faggot"Calling in the pinkertions, or repo-men is legal, its just extremely dramatic.
>>97398928Cool. Still ain't readin'
>>97398940@grok explain why this faggot thinks anyone cares what he does or doesn't read
>>97398812>Because WotC is a shitty company that does shitty things?WotC is Lawful Evil not Chaotic Evil
>To advertise the set, Wotc specifically sent ALL the promos to one area and ensured 99% of the US did not get itHow does having one or two stores in the country help hype anyone?
Won prerelease+ 2 collector boxes Probably best pulls Ive ever had, I pulled 6 steamvents and 5 bearers…
>>97398902>>97398917>>97398934>just ignore them>call cops>do the American thing and just shoot them for trespassing Instead he folded like a big baby.
>>97398947To play devil's advocate with the shcizos people getting things early and/or by accident WILL upload it and spread it across social media as free advertising.I still don't believe they are smart enough to do that and it was a real fuck up, but still.
>>97398946It's incredibly lawful evil to fake a leak for publicity.I raised this last time this came up, but dig into whether Samsung deliberately went to market with defective batteries. The shit companies will do to get their names in the news is fucking unhinged.>>97398947It made news without too many people actually getting hands on product. Seems smart to me.>>97398957>call cops>they arrive>yeah actually you don't have legal ownership of this product and these fine gentlemen are entitled to repossess it from youNow what?
>>97398963Just say lol no.
>>97398957>ignore them>They are literally surrounding your house and will not leave>Call the cops>Cops show up, see the paperwork, and then tell you you need to do what they say because they are legally contracted>Just shoot the heavily armed men surrounding your houseWorked well for David Karesh.
I linked the yt vid last thread but for those of you schizos who wouldnt click it, this was the prerelease situation:> wotc: pull the lever> printers: *pulls the lever*> wotc (screaming): wrong lever, Kronk!
>>97398950I hate how you can get a mismatched playset from booster boxes because of all the alternate frames and whatnot. It doesn't matter much if you only build commander, but still.
>>97398963According to US law, you actually DO have legal ownership in this case (And the previous pinkerton case). You bought and paid for the product, it's yours. If you ended up getting something that wasn't supposed to be released yet, that's the company who sent it out early/packed it wrong's problem. Not yours.Also, as an aside, how are you people talking about the possiblity of the leak being staged and NOT mentioned Games Workshop? They've been faking leaks for ages at this point
>>97398991How exactly does that shit even happen? Some EoE pre releases had Spiderman cards too.
>>97398922>trees>greenThats a forest
>>97399012It's either a fake leak (Possible) or the printers wizards contracts out have SERIOUS QC problems (Extremely likely. I am still mad about my precon deck with ~40 misprints)
>>97399004The guy never had to do anything with the pinkertons and literally could have simply read the second amendment to them and asked them to figure out what he means by that.It's his property. They're trespassers demanding your property. You have a right to defense.
>>97399026I think he lived in a state where you may or may not actually have a right to defend yourself in your own home (It depends on how the court feels) But regardless, the pinkertons had no reason to actually BE there since, again, he bought product, he recieved product, product is now his. It's the distributor's fault that man recieved unreleased product B instead of released product A.I honestly am still genuinely baffled that that entire event happened too, since... the leak was already out there, Wizards had literally nothing they could possibly gain from doing it and only shit to lose, but they did it anyways. Typical wizards.
>>97399023I have had precons that were damaged while still in the fucking shrink wrap.And damaged in ways that could only have been possible during production.WOTC has horrific QC
>>97399023Oh yeah, and I just remembered the totally not 100% unintentional "happy little accident" with the bob ross basics where they "accidentally" swapped what version (foil/nonfoil) they sent out to buyers and decided to, in a not at all uncharacteristic act of generosity send out the correct versions to customers, boht free of charge, and without, say, asking for the versions that were "wrongly" sent out back.
>>97399004>According to US law, you actually DO have legal ownership in this caseIf you buy stolen property, even unknown to you, it can and will be taken from you at your own cost.Also, unreleased products are protected under embrago. If he never filmed him opening it, nothing would have happened, but once he broke the embrago protection it was his duty to return the product (which is why the pinkertons were sent to collect.) if he didn't hand it over wizards would have sued him for damages for far more than the cost of the box.
>>97398969Refuse them their legal rights? What do you think happens next?>>97399004>According to US law, you actually DO have legal ownership in this case (And the previous pinkerton case). You bought and paid for the product, it's yours.You are objectively wrong anon, the product was not for sale.Imagine you went to buy a phone. Lets call it a model A10 phone.You receive a model A20 phone instead, this phone is not even on the market yetYou don't get to keep the A20 phone because you didn't buy an A20 phone, it was sent to you by mistake.You haven't bought anything.Sales are based in contract law. For a valid contract there needs to be consensus ad idem, a meeting of the minds. That means the two contracting parties both agree on what the contract is for.You can't buy 1 product, receive another, and then scream MINE MINE MINE. It was a mistake.
>playing 1v1 commander with a friend>drop Razortooth Rats on the board>friend asks what does fear do>"Oh, It means that only an artifact or—">friend interrupts just yelling "I KNOW WHAT AN ARTIFACT IS!!!"What was I supposed to do here?
>>97398812I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is a retarded conspiracy. No western corporation in the world wants to pay other people for licenses and to split profits from product. If Hasbro was able to generate the level of interest LOTR or FF created with their in-house sets they would do so in a heartbeat. This conspiracy has the classic retard fallacy that Party A (Hasbro) is somehow intelligent and farsighted enough to intentionally sink their own brand and carry out a multi-year plan BUT they're also so incompetent and stupid that they can't generate their own original IP that could match UB popularity even though they have a captured audience of millions of paypiggies and a household name among nerds. Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained away by stupidity. Hasbro/Wizards have shown time and time again that they're staffed by actual idiots. They're quite literally too stupid to carry out this intentional ship sinking to clear the way for UB. This whole belief reeks of cope from people who can't admit they've sunk years of their lives and thousands (if not tens of thousands) of dollars into a game/company managed by incompetent retards.
>>97399059Delusional post
>>97399047Don't I know it. I'm dead serious about the 40 misprints. It was the Ur-Dragon precon, and they somehow managed to miss putting in the little foil sticker on the literally every rare (Except the foiled ones, which are printed on a different sheet)When I contacted Wizard's customer service the cunts had the AUDACITY to ask me to send it to them, pay shipping, and they'd send me a correct one back.
>>97398875this sealed was really weighter to play rakdos
>>97399067Do yourself a favor and google was "under embargo" means
>>97399062Get a better friend
>>97399039>he bought product, he recieved product, product is now hisNo he bought one product and received another by mistake, it is not his.You understand this, I know you do. Continue pretending not to understand everyone will write you off as a troll.
>>97399062Slap him and tell him if he ever chimps out at you like that again he can get fucked
>>97399070That reminds me of when I was trying to help a friend learn mtg.>welcome decks are a cute little tutorial>figure I'll go to my LGS and grab some since they're free>LGS is out, but not to worry, you can request them online from WOTC directly>begin filling out the form>they want $30 shipping for two decks that have a rough value of 75 cents
>>97399064>No western corporation in the world wants to pay other people for licenses and to split profits from product.Based on your decades of corporate experience is it?
>>97399064I remember hearing years ago that there was an interview or similar done where wizards pulled back the curtain and showed their design process for magic and it was more or less set up in the most inefficient and idiotic way possible where no one fucking communicated with each other. I doubt it's gotten better.Actually, I should try and find that so I can ask my friend to ask his buddy who's apparently a WOTC insider about it.
>>97399072What do you mean? Do you mean that red/black just had the best cards?
>>97399064>No western corporation in the world wants to pay other people for licenses and to split profits from product. If Hasbro was able to generate the level of interest LOTR or FF created with their in-house sets they would do so in a heartbeat.Also, you know Hasbro collaborated with their own rival, Mattel, just a couple years ago right? https://corporate.mattel.com/news/mattel-hasbro-enter-licensing-agreements-to-launch-monopoly-barbie-edition-transformers-hot-wheels-transformers-unoIt had nothing to do with Hasbro IPs somehow not being as profitable as Mattel's, in fact if that was the case what would Mattel get out of the deal?The collaborated because it was mutually beneficial to their bottom lines to do so.You don't have the first idea about how business works.
>>97399086You don't need to have any corporate experience to be able to realize that corporations are greedy and want all the money for themselves.Hell, wizards themselves proved it a few years back when they tried to "update" the OGL in a way that would let them steal other people's work.
>>97399110See >>97399108 fuckwit
>>97399092One only needs to look at what they think will sell their brand to understand they're genuine actual idiots. Leaving aside the black washing and insistence on making everyone in a fantasy setting look like some fuck you'd see on a subway in any coastal American city, look at what they've pinned their latest hopes for brand recognition on:LootIf you asked me to come up with the most generic, unappealing, basic bitch cutesy fantasy mascot possible I would come up with Loot. Just like how Rian Johnson came up with the Porg for his failed Star Wars movie, which have already been forgotten and buried in pop culture history. But Hasbro doesn't understand why these characters generally don't work or draw in audiences. The boomers who came up with Loot in the board room just went through a power point presentation of popular cutesy mascots like mini-Groot and Pikachu and shat out their attempt to create their own.
>hey bro here's my commanderHow do you respond?
>>97399119Loot would be a better mascot if he only appeared in cards where he was getting horribly maimed or brutalized (PG-13) Like, unironically, people would like him more if he was "the creature that shows up getting murked on every removal card"
>>97399121Politely inform him it needs to be a creature until it transforms unless otherwise stated, but still play a game with him just to see what his deck does.
>>97399121You may only run it if your norwood level is the same or greater
>>97399119>Leaving aside the black washingI see you still don't know what that means.Blackwashing is not the existence of black people, it's replacing characters that are supposed to be a particular race with a black version of that race or people.You can even still have this gay little argument if you just say Kaldheim blackwashed Nordic history, but you're misusing it every time you point to a black person in western fantasy unless its a character that was changed to be black when they're not Aragorn
>>97399108In that case Hasbro has the upper hand because Mattel is the weaker corporation and they're paying for the right to benefit from Hasbro's successful products like Monopoly. Hasbro is the big winner there since they only have to slap Barbie onto their pre-existing product. The situation is quite literally reversed when it comes to UB, since Hasbro is the one going hat in hand to Square Enix and Tolkien's estate because when it comes to selling Magic cards they're the weaker party.
>Oh wow, first time seeing someone play that. I know its a CEDH commander, This is only a 3.>Oh, this is a 2, a strong 2 but a 2.
>>97399119>everyone in a fantasy setting look like some fuck you'd see on a subway in any coastal American city
>>97399142You're a genuine dumbshit. If you can't understand how black people in a western european derived fantasy setting isn't blackwashing there's no point even acknowledging you, which I won't be doing anymore you actual brainlet.
>>97399150I still think the bracket system is horseshit. Even if both decks are technically the same bracket (e.g. 2), a precon with no changes is infin8tely worse than a deck you cooked and tuned to perfection (e.g. shocks and fetches for lands).
>>97399119Why are Loot's cards 3+ mana? Shouldn't he be an early drop with his size? It'd make him more suitable as a mascot critter in a card game comparing him to Kuriboh or Budew.
>>97399159>than a deck you cooked and tuned to perfection (e.g. shocks and fetches for lands).That would make it a three by default. As that is "upgraded."
>>97399119>Boomers still shitting out angry text bricks over LootSomebody go get this unc his cane and hearing-aid
>>97399147>In that case Hasbro has the upper hand because Mattel is the weaker corporationThen what do they need Mattel for? >they're paying for the right to benefit from Hasbro's successful productsNot how the deal worked, it was a collaboration and not a paid license. Literally explained in the article I linked you, but that's fine.>Hasbro is the one going hat in hand to Square Enix and Tolkien's estate because when it comes to selling Magic cardsRight because as corporate entities Squenix and the Tolkien Estate have a higher valuation right?It would be really fucking embarrassing if a simple Google search valued Hasbro at around 12 Billion, Square Enix at around 7 Billion, and the Tolkein Estate at around 500 Million, wouldn't it?You don't know anything about business or licensing, and that's fine. You don't have to be the guy who knows about these things, but you do have to shut the fuck up about them.
>>97399150So what does Glarb does that makes him a CEDH commander?
>>97399152At least that makes sense for the setting. Why is Innistrad, a pre-industrial gloomy mist choked eastern european-esque forest land where presumably the sun shines 90 days of the year, full of dark skinned people? Well we know why.
>>97399185being able to surveil 2 every turn to dig for the cards you need seems like a solid ability, especially if you're playing some sort of graveyard deck, but I'm a casual so i could be wrong.
>>97399200>At least that makes sense for the setting.Cool so when the only plane in Magic is New York that'll be okay and you'll shut up about black people?
>>97399185It's unironically just the fact that he's relatively cheap and solid card advantage. His activated ability lets you dig through your deck at a very good pace and anything you play off the top has a pseudo "draw a card" attached to it.
>>97399207Obviously, retard.
>>97399202That's exactly why. Being able to play off the top of your deck and manipulate it from the commandzone is massive card advantage, and when you are playing in the infinite mana on turn 2 bracket you will just play your entire deck and win.
>>97399216I'd have so much more respect for you if you were just a racist and wanted blacks out of fantasy, but the fact you're like>ew there's too many black people in my european fantasy, WotC please narratively justify having nothing but blacks insteadIs so fucking cringe
>>97398812if it was intentional, why was the mispackaging only localized? targeting a specific market?
>>97399207Mirage was the set for black peopleBut since they don't want to make a set based on a specific place in dominaria anymore then they should make an african plane full of anansi and wakanda references and whatever they believe to be politically correct>they won't btw
>>97399150Every Flubs, Glarb, and Helga player I've met is insufferable, and frequently a troon.What is it about frog commanders that attracts them?
>>97399240>why was the mispackaging only localized? targeting a specific market?>>97398963>It made news without too many people actually getting hands on product. Seems smart to me.
enough about Loot, what do we think about Fleem?
>>97399244the only constant is frogs, and you.why do you play with so many troons, anon?
>>97399218>>97399213>>97399202I thought it had something to do with the casting from the top but I couldn't think of what it would be casted from the top that would be making him such a threat. The surveilling makes sense. Thanks.
