Why do elves look down on humans so much?
>>97403062>5 ft 4 before modifiers>Humans are 4 ft 10 before modifiersI think it might be the height difference which has them looking down on us, those filthy fucking bentnecks.
Because of their longevity.
>>97403098Which game?
Check the recent, already existing elf general to see what garbage humans post about them.
>>97403062Have you met humans? We kinda suck.
>>97403135>he doesn't knowGet out of here, you filthy casualalso, you just lost the game
>>97403245Elves in AD&D 2e are physically shorter than humans at base (55 inches for elves, 60 for humans)
>>97403135Pathfinder 1e
>>97403062Hard not to look down on a species yours remembers as shit wallowing cave dwellers. Imagine if humans were in that position and IRL there was a younger sapient species trying to live for itself or even one that looked up to us. All humans would do is dunk on them for every reason under the sun or just try to exterminate them entirely. Only a few outliers would embrace them, just like elves in fiction.
>>97403497>or just try to exterminate them entirelyElves are much more classy and benevolent about this
>>97403497This is a pretty common reason in a wide variety of fantasy settings, games, and stories.>We lived for thousands of years and mastered art, music, magic, and everything else while your people were still figuring out "fire" and "pointy stick">Aren't you so cute, pretending to be our equals now that you've figured out clothing and language and metalwork?>Okay, you short-lived mud people are getting pretty uppity just because you've started "industrializing" We are not equals!It's cliched, and personally I don't like the idea that immortality, or near-immortality, means total stagnation and lazy arrogance. If anything, having people live long enough to witness the outcomes of centuries worth of mistakes and incorrect assumptions would make Elves extremely dangerous. However, lazy arrogant elves are the tried and true cliche that most fall back on.
...so is this guy the artist, or something?some of you lot seem to know what's going on. explain?
>>97403062Barring the Hobbit, Tolkien's elves are simply best in everything, to the point that you shouldn't really think it as another race but more like golden age superhumans. But at the same time, the Noldor's story (it's all about them) is one about being the best... and as such, prideful little bitches that end up giving themselves all their problems (and half-destroying ME).As much as LOTR it's also about high elves, it's the story of them choosing humility, to let things go and that THEY fucked it all up. Not once, but twice. The average group/GM didn't get the memo and is stuck doing them as Feanor's little parodies - without even them being really prideful on something that make them better than everyone else.
>>97403618>giving themselves all their problems (and half-destroying ME)Melkor please, that's your fault.Also, everyone already does prideful asshole elves that deserve what happens to them. Unironic good guy elves doing the right thing are rare.
>>97403670>Unironic good guy elves doing the right thing are rare.But that's not a bug, anon, I'm arguing that elves thinking themselves badasses and going FAFO is kinda the whole concept of og elves. Hell, they don't sound that reasonable in the Hobbit either, do they? It's just that Elrond can manage them in Rivendell.
>>97403062Aryans?
>>97403547Imagine if humans finally become space faring as a species only by that point our consciousness is digitized into the machine to avoid mortality in relativistic space travel, then we find a world of sapients who are just a younger version of what we used to be. Not loincloth wearing pant huffing savages, but industrial, smart and inventive. We would be the elves in this situation and they would eternally marvel at our powerful metal bodies and endless knowledge to the point of being jelly enough to cause massive social collapse while we would laugh and call them niggers.
>>97403707The Hobbit elves were entirely reasonable, you are thinking about the movie.
>>97403618Then again, D&D elves are a bit different. Gygax made sure of that, especially after he got scolded for including hobbits and become salty about anything Tolkien ever since. He was already was more into Conan, John Carter from Mars and other pulp stuff.
>>97403737Hobbit Elves had zero reason to get involved in the battle of the Five Armies. They were there for the prospect of looting the place. The Orc had more legitimate reasons to be there than them.
>>97403062do they?
>>97403750They were supporting their allies, the people of Lake-town, and all of them had some claim to the treasure.
>>97403062Because humans are like children to them. It would be like if there were a race of people who reached adulthood by two years old and rarely lived to see their ninth birthday. You'd have sympathy for them for being so short lived, and might even be surprised by what they're capable of, but their reduced ability to gain wisdom would make you unwilling to bestow them with any important responsibilities. You'd give them the easy bake oven while you dealt with the real cooking
>>97403737Locking up people because they are starving doesn't sound like the most reasonable thing to me anon
>>97403788They weren't captured because they were starving.They were captured because they were intruders that didn't want to disclose why they intruded into their territory.It's entirely reasonable to consider such behavior suspicious.
I am angry. ANGRY ABOUT ELVES.
>>97403809I mean, it's not like Thorin and Balin rolled 20 on Diplomacy either, but I would've tried contacting Gandalf or Beorn. Or at least the Iron Hills' dwarves.
>>97403783This plus also a heavy amount of frustration. There are so many of them, and they are all (from your perspective) SO stupid because they are learning the same basic lessons over and over again."Don't put your hand on the burner, its still hot.""Don't put your hand on the burner, its still hot.""Don't put your hand on the burner, its still hot.""Don't put your fucking hand on the burner, its still hot.""Don't put your hand on the burner, its still HOT.""Why can't you people ever just... ITS STILL HOT. ITS ALWAYS GOING TO STILL BE HOT RIGHT AFTER YOU USE IT.""FINE. JUST BURN YOURSELF ON IT. I CAN'T FUCKING DO THIS ANYMORE."The humans, from their perspective, encountered the problem once and learned from it and never made that mistake again. But from the perspective of the elves, seeing generations of humans go by, we might have better tools or wear better clothes or have bigger houses but we just keep making the same mistakes over and over.
Reminder that Tolkien’s elves are literally a case of ‘any sufficiently advanced art is indistinguishable from magic’ logic.
>>97403062>noldorfag seething about something againplease kill yourselfyou already post enough no need to make shitty threads
>>97403915Anon, this is a he who shall not be named thread.
