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Strifle Edition

Previous: >>97400085

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What are some niche tech cards you run?
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GREEN
QUEEN!
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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What does the future hold for Magic lore?
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>>97410240
Realistically, nothing.
The fact that the best Magic story in the last 7+ years was UginxBolas fanfiction says everything about how bad WotC is at creating stories.
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I wanted to buy one of the new precons and when checking on archidekt, they claim it's Bracket 4 because it has two card combos. What kind of bullshit is that, I always thought you need to have serious tutoring and game changer to be in that bracket. Is Jund really that strong in Commander?
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>>97410307
The world shaper precon is no doubt just b2 in strength
The confusion started when gavin said b2 is supposed to be precon strength while forgetting precons are products designed to go in different directions and yes that includes having an infinite on turn 3 so he quickly backtracked on that, but that meant stock precons can actually be excluded from b2 because of technicalities
>just replace the dakmor gitrog combo from the deck if you're playing in a b2 pod, you dont actually need it
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>>97410240
There is no future for magic lore
sure they can put out articles and stories but the only real mtg lore in my mind is the story told by the cards themselves and wotc has fucked that in half to the point where it cannot be resuscitated.
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>>97410355
I mean the auntie deck with Hapatra and Blowfly Infestation - ok, technically it's infinite but just because the two cards are there doesn't mean you get them early on battlefield. The deck looks slow.
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>>97410422
>ok, technically it's infinite but just because the two cards are there doesn't mean you get them early on battlefield. The deck looks slow.
You are correct but gavin banning 2 card infinites is a concession to those in the casual playerbase not wanting infinites to cheapen their games, you already have a couple of them whining just last thread
You can still play infinites, just make them 3+ cards that on average can be deployed turn 8 in b2
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>TQ
When I don't really give a shit about TOR's card draw and I'm not in white for Teferi's Protection or Dawn's Truce, this card's pretty nice.
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>>97410464
It goes well in Toph, The First MetalBender
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>>97410476
I use it in a copy artifacts deck helmed by Orvar
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>>97410307
>I wanted to buy one of the new precons
DO THING DRAW A CARD
5 COLOR SLOP
I used to look forward to precons 10 years ago, I guess they aren't all bad, I liked some of the duskmorne ones but holy shit if this set isnt phoned in
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>>97410476
I have really come to despise that fucking commander because at least at my LGS she's become the new posterchild for;
>Let it sit around? Basically conceding the game.
>Remove it on site? Pilot gets pissy because now their jankpile does fuck all
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>>97410210
>>TQ
>What are some niche tech cards you run?
Wild Slash and Skullcrack to get through TOR and Tef Pro
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>>97410464
I play this in a few of my boomer dragons lists, generally the blue ones that want to play Tmage packages
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>>97410497
Can I see your boomer dragon lists? I promise I will not steal your ideas.
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>>97410489
"Damage cant be prevented" doesnt work vs tpro because their life total cant change anyway
You could clear the way for infect to poison them so that they die on their next turn though
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I am brewing a Reaper King No More list where instead of -1/-1 counters, it's a birthing pod deck abusing the fact that the new Reaper King is a 6 cmc creature I can cast for 3 and pod away for 7 cmc creatures. What are the best 7 drops I can play?
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>>97410533
Do people in this general really not know the basics of scryfall anymore?
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>>97410546
If something doesnt have an app zoomers dont know it
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>>97410546
Scryfall doesn't have a 'sort by best' feature
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>>97410557
That's a good point: why doesn't scryfall have an app?
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>>97410533
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>>97410560
That's because scryfall cant your mind
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>>97410562
They're too busy dilating and virtue signaling with their front page banner
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>>97410523
Commander damage still counts too if the damage can't be prevented even if life total can't change
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>>97410560
It has sort by EDHRank
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>>97410578
Right, there's that too
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>>97410560
Anon there are 360 jund creatures at cmc 7. Itd take you about 5-10 minutes to look through that list yourself.
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>>97410523
I will smack you with my 14/14 double strike commander
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>>97410513
Sure, none of these have the TMage packages I was talking about but since they are basically goodstuff piles it's easy to slot them in
This was my 2025 version
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dromar-placeholder/
My current version of dromar is Esper aristocrats featuring Raise the Past and Vela the Night-Clad, it has that package in it but I've not yet had a reason to upload the decklist.
I put all wastes in because I can't be fucked to add the non-basics, they tend to be whatever I have laying around.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/in-the-wake-of-the-renewer/
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-molten-loop/
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rule-the-roost/
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ode-to-splintertwin/
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/trevas-infidelity/
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/vorosh-2025/
These are a variety of shitpiles I bring to random LGSs when I travel, most of the time players are so bad that even these decks stand a chance. I hope in 2026 to make them a little more streamlined but it's hard to justify working on them when they perform okish already. Make no mistake that does not mean they are good decks, these suck in many ways.
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>>97410533
just read the reddit post from where you ripped the idea off in the first place.
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>>97410533
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund + a way to make all of your opponents cards dragons
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>>97410750
>all lands are dragons in addition to their other types
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>>97410210
Trouble in pairs
Last time i had it removed a player took infinite turns. The worst part about it was it was to a sorcery speed beast within.
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>>97410643
These are great, thanks for posting them. I'll go make a cool primeval dragon pile in your honor.
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>>97410240
Face tries to reset the timeline to pre kaya but kaya tells him yts need to give up the future and everyone claps because the phyrexians giving every plane space aids that let free immigration happen is a good thing.
That'll be 145$ + tip for 6 card premium boosters
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>>97410767
If you do, please share it. I love seeing them.
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I wanna run this guy as my commander. Is there anything I'm missing on making this work? Colorless is part of the appeal, admittedly
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>>97410806
>colourless
Fuck, I thought this thing was white
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>>97410819
There is one that is
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>>97410750
>a way to make all of your opponents cards dragons
Are there any options besides handing over a Conspiracy or some equivalent?
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>>97410806
dawnsire serves as removal for the mindskinner deck
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>>97410806
>Is there anything I'm missing on making this work?
hard to say without a list
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>>97410866
Idk thats my go-to
I think there might be a changeling spell but idk
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if I animate a manland and then copy it with thespian's stage/vesuva, that's a copyable property and thespian's stage/vesuva is a land creature permanantly, right?
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>>97410806
Stuffy doll should be in I think
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The great cuckening

>have grip of chaos out
>esper yshtola player fully pillowforted
>cast pic rel and sudden substitution
>all of his permanents becomes a copy of dark confidant
>dies
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>>97403158
Nta, but you don't run her as Voltron. You don't have really have to cast her until late game anyway and her target is relatively small. What you do with her is Sagas control. I have a Norika deck and I can say it's not much fun for your opponents because of how much removal White Sagas have attached to them. It also drags games for 3 hours.
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>>97410806
>>97410874
Fair enough. I've never built a colorless deck, so I kind of put mostly 'goodstuff' with an emphasis on artifact creatures to crew the Dawnsire
https://archidekt.com/decks/19169525/big_ship
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>>97410909
Woops
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>>97410913
You know he can just... change the target once you give it to him, right?
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>>97410909
>11 mana to not win the game
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>>97410927
He sure did
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>>97410941
Bad news, Sudden Substitution does not put the spell onto the stack a second time. So he was still able to choose.
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>>97410533
Hoarding Broodlord looking for Saw in Half. There I just saved you two games before you get bored of it and take it apart.
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>>97410643
>teehee my deck doesn't do anything look at my silly commander
>btw Tooth and Nail entwined for game
>Sensei's Top Bolas's Citadel Reservoir for game
Ok
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>>97410240
I can’t tell you how painful this question is to me. Up until about 2019, I was a dyed-in-the-wool Vorthos. Read every story, owned a lot of the physical books, kept track of everything that was going on.

War of the Spark…wasn’t great. But we went back to self-contained narratives afterwards, so I was willing to endure a bit of turbulence. Calix’s introduction in THB gave me pause—the rules around planeswalker sparks were pretty straightforward and Klothys shouldn’t have been able to arbitrarily create a being with one. But it was Niko that really made it clear to me that things were going to get worse before they got better. Not because of the gender issue, but how the backstory was presented, the focus on a single power as the character’s gimmick, and the extent to which their attire didn’t even pretend to draw from their plane of origin or any of the planes they’d visited up to that point. They were an X-Man, not a planeswalker.

But I’d been invested in the game since Onslaught block and the sunk cost fallacy is a bitch. I stuck it out through March of the Machine, and what a wet fart of an ending that was. But, hey, we’d be getting self-contained stories again, right? Nah, now every year is a story arc! Oh, and we return to Ravnica and completely alter the technology level and social assumptions.

And then the unending deluge of Universes Beyond, crowding out the real sets, halving the resources available to develop their worlds and stories…

I used to care. God, I used to care so much. And, even now, we’ll get sets like Bloomburrow, Tarkir, and Lorwyn that remind me of why I used to. But, before I even have the chance to get the cards into my hands, something else happens to remind me why it’s so hard to care these days. I want to be optimistic, I want to have hope, but I’m too tired.
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>>97410987
Unironically read the gay Bolas fic. If you're willing to get over the fact it's all setup for Ugin to go balls deep in Bolas, it's probably one of the best MtG stories ever written because it manages to completely reframe Ugin and Bolas as drastically more nuanced characters while still acknowledging all of their established writing. The fact it acknowledges Ugin's chronic fencesitting as an actual problem that drastically impacted Bolas as they were growing up is more than anything WotC did.
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>>97410232
not taking this dumb ass opinion from a retard that says "fourty"
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Clan Craft or Agent of the Iron Throne? imo
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>>97410983
I never claimed my deck was silly or that my commander did nothing, just that there were not good decks.
>wow your deck dedicated to splinter twin can win out of nowhere
what is this complaint?
The oros deck was supposed to be a non-traditional doomsday pile but yeah bolas' citadel is a busted card, that being said without other support doming yourself repeatedly with SDT doesn't actually win you the game and complaining about a 3 card combo is kind of an odd thing to bring up.
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>remove most of the banlist
>bring back the old legendary rule
>bring back the tuck rule
>ban all UB cards by default

There. I fixed EDH.
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>>97411135
>>ban all UB cards by default
Only reasonable one here, still mulling over forking this general.
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>>97411163
meant to post this
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>>97411135
I don't see how old legend rule or tuck are particularly beneficial for the game.
>Old legend rule
The only real impact of this is that it makes blue clone effects into kill spells, which isn't exactly a gaping design space hole. There's some cases this is beneficial like Ragavans or TORs killing each other, but it doesn't address the underlying fact these cards are problematic on their own.
>Tuck rule
The whole reason it was removed is that once commanders were good enough to start building around, the threat of tuck suppressed this type of deckbuilding in favor of the old "99 generic value engine cards". This wasn't helped by the fact that the best tuck card was Spell Crumple, followed by Oblation and Condemn. These colors aren't exactly struggling for good removal or lasting ways to deal with commanders. The easier it is to semi-permanently remove a commander, the more incentivized players are to make a deck that's just a staple pile, because said staples don't rely on their commander to generate immense value.
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>>97411218
>I don't see how old legend rule or tuck are particularly beneficial for the game.
Literally just "old thing good, new thing bad"
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>>97410987
man imagine being a vorthos and the only compatriots you have are faggot furries and the trannies writing the schlock
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>>97411261
Hey the faggots write pure kino.
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imagine using the word V*rthos
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>>97411309
please don't be disrespectful of maro's terms.
you may not care but others do.
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Almost halfway through the 32 deck challenge. I need to figure out which red commander I'm going to build.
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If I wanted to build a deck where all spells are instant speed, what commander should I use?
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>>97411385
I want to shove Maro's face into a gutter
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>>97411437
Another day, another retard who refuses to learn EDHREC
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>>97411437
Azula
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>>97411437
you already asked this last thread
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>>97411385
He's such a fucking insufferable manchild
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https://moxfield.com/decks/fzNfmjCw6kS2TKptUwwxOw
thots?
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>>97410210
>What are some niche tech cards you run?
Very uncommon one, most people have never seen it
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>>97411135
Then it isn't commander anymore.
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>>97411513
Pretty much what the deck wanted to do
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>>97411395
>which red commander
You're already going for the dragoncock so may as well go all in and use Zirilan. He's aged pretty well.
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>>97411466
Azula is grixis and UB slop.
>>97411451
How do I use EDHREC to search for this?
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>>97410464
I run this in starscream, it feels fitting.
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>>97411542
Correct. It's EDH, and it did just find for years before WOTC intervened.
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>>97410240
Lore is for brainlets and wizards can't write good stories or characters to save their lives. Even if they could, in order to create a brand with wide appeal they can't just rely on books and other written material, they need to create visual media. And I'm not talking some gay ass live action Netflix show and autism simulators/paypig squeezers like arena, I'm talking a high quality cartoon show that evokes classic styles in order to stand out (like Ralph Bakshi or even 80s style SMCs) from the bland generic style of current western animation, and extremely good single player games, maybe some roguelikes or even a heroes of might and magic clone where you build a Commander deck to paint a map.

Of course again this is all shit that is far beyond the scope of wizards capability to handle or even think of, and in my opinion Magic's official settings and characters are already too shitty and ruined to build anything off of and any media with them would wind up being quickly forgotten basic bitch fantasyslop that wouldn't bring in any new players, same way Arcane didn't bring anyone into LoL that wasn't already playing the game.

Magic's "lore" was at its best when there was none, when a set had no written out story and you just made up your own head canon about what was happening based on art and sparse flavor text. There's nothing worth caring about with UW writing anymore.
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>>97411553
> UW tranny cant even use edhrec to make his deck for >her
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>>97411553
By pressing the tags button, selecting the tags option in the drop down menu and then typing in flash in the search bar. Do you have any other questions you may need help with such as how to turn on your monitor?
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What's the best shit you can do with Moonmist? Flip walkers don't work because they die instantly but I'm looking at the RG Terra and thinking that might be pretty sweet. Jacob Harkness or whatever the expy of him in Innistrad is called might be good too.
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>>97411564
So...make a new format instead of changing the current one.
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>>97410210
>TQ
discovered THIS bad boy recently and I'm very eager to see how it plays out. Seems absolutely busted with how easy it is to draw cards.
I'm also a huge fan of Debt of Loyalty.
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>>97411624
The same could have been said to WOTC.
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>>97411631
I love that card in Jon Irenicus. Lets you steal players' commanders and give them to other players permanently goaded. It's also great in The Master, Formed Anew since it lets you steal a guy then remove it and get your own copy.
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>>97411623
I use it to flip Avatar Aang on an end step. When it hits your turn you get a 5 mana discount (including generic costs) on all cards you cast. It's incredibly explosive for an otherwise mediocre commander so basically nobody sees it coming.
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>>97410210
>to
Not sure if its really niche, but I slot Kozilek, butcher of truth in every deck because he was an automatic counter to most mill decks at the time, and his late game draw/body was really nice.
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If this thing didn't have the draw stapled and cost 2 less instead it'd be my ideal commander.
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>Citizens, Pilots, and Horrors you control get +1/+1
>Spellshapers you control get +2/+2
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>Affinity for Beavers
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>>97411781
Based. Is there any viable mill deck?
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>Affinity for Alphabetical Ordering (This costs 1 less for the greatest number of permanents you control that can be alphabetically ordered)
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>>97411580
I've an idea for a new format
only cards with flavour text on them
because you're right in that all you really need is a small snippet and imagination
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>>97411437
Baral
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people care more about dark soul item descriptions than magic story TRUTH NUKE FACT
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>>97411863
how is that different from "costs 1 less for every permanent you control"?
everything can be alphabetically ordered
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>>97411912
The Magic story would be better if it was only told through flavor text and characters who die after speaking three times.
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>>97411863
Affinity for girls who look like they would rather order a beer at the bar but only if they're hanging out with their parents.
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Would it be retarded to replace all my basics with snow basics so I can play arcum's astrolabe in a 3c deck?
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>>97411976
that's so weirdly specific I don't know how to interpret it
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>>97411984
No. There's practically no reason to run non-snows over snows except price. The cards that hate on snows almost never see play, and it gives you the option to run cards like On Thin Ice and Into the North.
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>>97411984
Are you hurting for color fixing or do you just think the card is cool?
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>>97412001
maybe he wants to play the banned in every format card
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>>97411984
No, you will get hosed by popular magic card Break the Ice.
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>>97412006
>0.02% inclusion
>865 decks
>3.89M decks
Jesus
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>TQ
My decks hate facing off against black, so having a cute phasing card that doubles as an "oh shit" button works great. I just wish it could target your own permanents.
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>>97412006
> could produce colorless
Ummmm should I preboard this against El*razi "people"
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>>97411580
>when there was none
>first book written in 1994
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>>97411912
Magic story was best when it was shown through snippets in cards
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Anyone run BW enchantress?
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2 headed giant >>>> ffa commander
By the by
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I know we had that anon who built a Jon Irenicus deck. What are some of your favorite drawback cards to throw in there?
>inb4 EDHREC
I like hearing people's stories
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>>97412272
his sex bot
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>Go to the lgs to play test my grub deck
>Buy a single pack
>Pull a full art foil Grub
Its destiny lads.
Anyway, deck went 3-2.
Needs more protection,though I don't know how possible that is in Rakdos other than "when this creature dies, return it" stuff and redirect stuff.
Maybe just more recursion stuff?
Suggestions appreciated
https://archidekt.com/decks/19068461/grub
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>>97412327
This happened btw
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>>97412272
I built it as a 2/very low 3 "unblockable aggro" list, so I focused more on playing 1-mana 1/1s and giving them equipment that provide the equipment's controller stuff regardless of if an opponent sends them at people.

You can't go all-in on the whole "badstuff" aspect of him I've found. At least not without getting fucked in the ass because when a player dies you get all your shit back.

That being said the silver bullet ones are quite good.
>The Evil Eye of Orms-by-Gore
locks down a scary player's board.
>Desecration Elemental
is effectively a hard to block 10/10 that chews up creatures.
>Phyrexian Negator
is probably too rude for how my deck is set up, though any cards in that vein are absolutely player-ending because of the "can't be sacrificed" clause.
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Sire of Insanity is still a fucking truck of a card in 2026.
Battlecruiser is alive.
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>>97412375
thank you for reminding me i can stack the triggers how i want (sire was sneak attacked in)
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>>97412183
Insane that these both exist in the same universe. Imagine post 2001 Magic troonery characters running into the OG Garfield chads from the 1990s.
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>>97412419
Remember when /edhg/ thought Loot was going to be broken
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>>97411437
You'll probably gas out and wind up durdling after a few turns.
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>>97412428
>The CEDH tier commander is infact, cedh
Just because he didn't become an SSS tier cedh doesn't mean he is very good.
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>>97412490
loot isnt cedh retard
unless you like unviable shitpiles
cope
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>>97412492
>nuh uh, cope!
Classic.
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>>97412331
Well it did. So suck an ass.
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>>97412430
Why?
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>>97411437
the Experience Katara is literally this. Shes also 2cmc and draws you cards.
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>>97412579
Green really needed another one of these effects
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>>97412579
by now you can probably make a deck with 10+ counter doublers
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>>97412430
Not if Ephara is the commander.
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Am I crazy for cutting this card from my Esper tokens deck?
>4 mana
>does nothing on it's own
>no lifegain

I know the bats can do a lot of damage, but I keep running out of life before turn 4/5 and it doesn't trigger my Ocelot Pride. I'm testing Susurian Voidborn in it's place and see if the deck feels worse.
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>>97412579
>2 cmc counter doubler
holy fuck, please stop
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>>97411553
the tag is "flash"
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>>97412623
are you already running the other blood artist effects?
are you not able to have turns where you get an easy like 5+ triggers off him?
can you not make token copies of it? and then make more of those tokens?
he blocks flying men and gets in for a free 2 damage every once in a while.
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>>97412628
It wouldn't be the first time they printed one.
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>>97412623
it depends on your deck tech and how many tokens you can make/sacrifice in a single turn. in my rakdos token deck, mirkwood bats is MVP because I have turns where I create ~10 tokens and sac them all, then generate 10 treasure and sac them all again.
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So with Lorwyn hitting arena, I tried making a Bre Soutarm deck in brawl, obviously a much different beast to commander, but it helps with practice. If arena wasn't a shitfest of rigging the game for the paypigs there'd be more actual learning going on for me, BUT, i think she's best served keeping a high land count, and even gaining a single life off a soul sister means you can topdeck a nonland to put in hand. Seems fairly fun, if still quite low power.
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>>97412623
All I can say is the bats are my best wincon in Burakos. Sac all my treasures and make a lot of 1/1s. Sac all the 1/1s make a lot of treasures. Bats = its over. Bats + Delney or Academy Manufactor = Its Joever
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>>97412680
>>97412579
>TWO MANA
Get on my level you scrungos
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>>97410987
How did you get invested in Magic lore during the single worst magic story of all time, still unrivaled to this day?
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>>97412623
who is your commander, and is it g'raha?
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>>97410987
>Calix’s introduction in THB gave me pause—the rules around planeswalker sparks were pretty straightforward and Klothys shouldn’t have been able to arbitrarily create a being with one
my interpretation was Calix was as much a person anyone could be, even if crafted from nyx, so he was just as likely to ignite his spark as the next shmuck, maybe more so than others because belief is what makes Theros work.
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>>97412623
Its good for a dedicated wincon, not so much as another source of aristocrat chip damage, if that makes sense.
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>>97412658
>>97412658
I run Marionette Apprentice, Bastion of Remembrance, Nadier's Nightblade and technically you can count Kambal's etb too.
I don't generally make copies of my own stuff, no.
>>97412682
>>97412688
The deck generally plays more like a grind with Token generation, making tokens with Bitterblossom, Prince Imrahil, etc type effects.
I have ways to make treasures and lots of them, including fatal combos, but I feel like the bats would effectively do the same thing in that scenario as Susurian Voidborn, but Voidborn can be used as a 1-mana play or a passive engine.
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>>97412712
I was eleven years old at the time. It did have the advantage of making everything that came after Scourge look much better, though.
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I need to cut 24 cards for this proliferate/infect/artifact deck. Halp?
What should I doooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>97412492
>breach colors
>card advantage and win-con in the command zone
>not cEDH
He's not Tynma, Kinnan, or Rograkh, but he's tier 2.
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>>97412756
cut 24 lands
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>>97412756
Contagion clasp
Contagion engine
All tutors
Thats a start.
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>>97412794
>all tutors
>alternative proliferation finishers
why?
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>>97412398
Ive been using necrologia
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So is Green just a "do everything" color? What exactly is it bad at? Is it just single target creature removal?
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>>97412866
it is bad at having interesting cards for the most part
unga bunga retard color, similar to red, but unaware of his idiocy
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>>97412866
It's still very weak to boardwipes and a 5cmc goober doesn't change that
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Would you support a jeweled lotus unban if you could only use it with commanders with a cmc of 5 or greater?
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>>97412877
If green didnt have such great card draw id agree with you but typically in my experience green has both a full hand and a lot of mana to boot so it never feels like its out of gas.
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>doing nothing all game
>pretty much just begin fucking around making mediocre plays for the lulz
>win anyway
It just works.
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>>97412881
No. This might as well read "cast your low cmc 3 colored commander for free." And later on it can help you avoid commander's tax (+ something as cheap as a sol ring tap). Never.
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>>97412881
I'd support a jeweled lotus ban if they errata'd the text box to the follows
>Tap, Sacrifice Jeweled Lotus, Pay an amount equal to the current TCGplayer average price of all cards named "Jeweled lotus" divided as evenly as possible amongst all other players: Add three mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast your commander
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>>97412756
don't make this a b3, it's not worth it
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>>97412905
>try to play this way
>someone at the board starts snowballing
>no one stops it so I have to be the one to step up
>spend most of the game trying to stop the other from winning and never have a chance to build up my board
>Some other guy eventually just combos off or whatever in the meantime and lose

I still have fun, but this is basically 90% of my games
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>>97412927
Same. I've grown used to it
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>>97412916
Why?
I just want to run a cool infect/proliferate kilo deck.
Also, it has winter orb and static orb, so it is bracket 4 (not like it matters much since my pod only loosely follow brackets), and they work great in a deck with lots of ways to tap/untap.
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>>97412905
>>97412927
>>97412937
Maybe target the combo player?
Maybe let people have a board?
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>>97412948
>Maybe let people have a board?
I'm a control deck. So, no.
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>>97412948
The issue I have is that I regularly play against a player whose decks have a tendency to snowball really fast, and a player whose decks have a tendency to just suddenly explode out of nowhere
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>>97412808
Cause they suck? Why would you ever cast them over your commander? They do what he does, but shitty and slow
>tutors
You probably wont need them!
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>>97412908
Did you even read the post you histrionic faggot
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>Be me
>Having a bad time
>Some shit fuck has 4 creatures without flying but are 15+ P/T each
>Another player, has a 8/8 with flying, vigilance and and double strike and a bunch of stuff that could be used for chump blocking
>He can hit anyone and be fine.
>So instead of attacking the person who is the threat,
>He attacks me, for 16.
>Turn goes around
>I manage to kill one of the threats big creatures when he also decided to attack me with something I had just drawn on my my turn
>Guy with the 8/8 flier again slaps me for 16.
>Literally at 1 health
>The threat, would have been dead if he attacked him instead the last 2 turns
>Threat over runs and kills the the table with a bunch of shit
I don't understand why people do this shit. If he wanted triggers and his only creature that could have attacked was that, and I was the ONLY one he could hit. That would be one thing. But I wasn't nor was is for triggers. It was just putting damage out to the limper for the sake of it.
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>>97413006
From what I've seen people get this dumb because they think they can't beat the other guy and would rather be in 2nd place than 3rd
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>>97413006
Did you talk to the guy who was hitting you about changing targets? Did you assess the board from his perspective? Did you talk to the guy who was hitting you after the game to at least try to have him learn something if you ever played again?

If you didn’t do any of these, you are unsociable weirdo not communicating in a social communication game.
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>>97413006
Ive had this happen to me more then once and its infuriating each time. I always remind that if theyre not gonna attack the biggest threat on the board then they should jusy not attack at all. Its not like theyre forced to. Or better yet, I make deals with them. Attack the scary guy and I promise we won't attack you until the threat is dealt with. Usually works and if it doesn't I can at least say I told you so when the his carelessness loses him the game.
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>>97413047
I tried, he didn't want any deals. He just wanted to "apply pressure," what pressure is being applied to the game by attacking the weakest player? I don't know.
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>>97412978
You are right. I got too stuck with how thematic they were, besides imagining explosive turn with Tekuthal (4 mana for 4 proliferates with engine).
Still not convinced on the tutors. Even mystical tutor I could see, but why not enlightened tutor when I am so artifact heavy? What about some of my charge centric artifacts with potent effects? How many of those do I need for coretapper to be worth it? Although at the very least it could feed my counter based mana rocks. Also, wuicksilver dagger helps me with draw and landing player damage with infect creatures. Should I cut more of the toxic creatures (since infect > toxic)? I have a couple of support creatures which I think help a lot, such as unctus and emry, I fear having too low a density of poison sources (and I do know I just need to see and then proliferate away).
Finally, what do you think of the deck's name?
Kilo's Dastardly Toxic Tap Dance
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>Bought this for a few bucks for my scorpion god deck in 2018
>42 bucks on tcg player now
Damn son
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>>97413140
I despise those "investors"
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Hexproof doesn't stop blight, righ?
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How many spin down dice do you have?
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>>97413273
5?
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>>97413226
Id have to read the blight text but I doubt it. I think its written to be like a edict sort of effect.
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>>97413273
Just the one. Enjoy the rat

.
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>>97413293
>indian mat
>rat
Poetry
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>>97413273
Man, that izzet one is the best. I used to have one but lost it at some point
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>>97413031
is there a second place in edh? I have never played it at the LGS so I don't know about any ranking systems
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>>97413390
There is not.
Thee is you win, you lose, or you draw. There is not "but I got silver though"
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>>97413390
I mean some people at least in my experience seem to think so
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>>97413064
your problem is that you are trying to reason with a low IQ wall.
what you have to do the moment he tries to make a retarded move to is mock and shame him. bonus points if you can make at least one other opponent agree with you. a retard hates nothing more in the world than feeling like a retard.
>b-b-but isn't that mean/obnoxious/[whatever gets your panties in a twist because you are a faggot who prefers silent suffering instead of standing up and slapping retards into their dirty faces]???
are you playing against women who break the moment you say a forbidden word, or against men?
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ITT: Forbidden Tech
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Using this print when upgrading the Blight Curse precon so I can have David Bowie in the deck and sing Magic Dance.
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>>97410884
No
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>>97413453
It really wasn’t even a good movie, you only remember it because of nostalgia. Legend was the superior dark fantasy in every single way (watch the international cut if you’re American)
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>>97412881
It wouldn’t be a unban if they changed the text of the card.
I would though, but not if it could apply to green. The majority of high CMC commanders on EDHREC with 5+ mana have green, so they really don’t need it.
If they printed
>Ruby Lotus
>Jet Lotus
>Sapphire Lotus
>Pearl Lotus
And they each said your commander had to have a mana value of 5 or greater, then yes.
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>>97412881
No
They should also ban Sol Ring
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>>97412327
I like this thing, makes your kill instants double as protection if needed. Should be fairly easy to grab with goblin engineer or something.
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>>97413549
Im a retard, meant to post veilstone amulet
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>>97412541
do you just photoshop the art into a card frame or is there something that does the bulk of the formatting for you
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>>97413566
I don't know what that anon is using but most people use either card conjurer or magic set editor
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>>97413586
Is there any reason to not run this in every deck that's in green?
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>>97411135
I agree with the first and last thing.
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>>97413590
Market price



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