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Are Panthers good for you?
>>97433465Probably not but I sure do like em.
Can engine swaps be done in the field?
>>97433556No, you need a facility.
>>97433465Do you have enough sinks for your PPC?
You're a young mechwarrior defending the Free Rasalhague Republic from Clan Ghost Bear. How do you survive without being made a bondsman?
>>97433565Mean he can try but it won't exactly go that well?
>>97433641Yes, a certain failure with a margin of error big enough to damage the engine.
>>97433686Yeah but it is always funny to let the retards try especially the ones who think it will just be like their mechwarrior vidya.
Lasers do damage/10+1Pulse lasers do damage/5+2Ballistics do damage/5+4Cluster weapons kill troops equal to the max number of clusters.All of the above do half damage(round up) if the target isn't in a clear hex.Small lasers do 1d6 damageSmall pulse lasers do 1d6+3Machine guns do 2d6Flamers do 4d6These four weapons do full damage regardless of hex type.There I fixed infantry.
>>97433737
>>97433737Just bring some anti-infantry weapons, dawg. Eat your damn vegetables.
Is this good writing?
>>97433737I have a better fix. All weapons do full damage to infantry unless they are in woods or a building, then they do half damage. Anti-infantry weapons do the following additional damage:Small Laser and non-small pulse lasers: +2d6Small pulse lasers: +3d6Cluster, Frag, Flechette, Flak ammo: Doubles damage dealt to infantry and ignores cover bonusesFlamers and Infernos: +4d6, ignores cover bonusesLMG: +2d6MG: +4d6HMG: +6d6AP Gauss and Battle Armor scale weapons: +3d6Plasma weapons: Double damage + 4d6, ignores cover bonuses.These represent large scale weapons ability to not only to kill infantry but also loss of morale.
>>97433776second sentence is "and ____ and ____"so no, because whoever shat that slop out doesn't even understand how to properly write in the english language.That sentence should have gone "She thought the woman was beautiful, haunting and Katie was surprised at herself" or "She thought the woman was beautiful in a haunting way and Katie was surprised at herself"But you never repeatedly use "and" in that manner.
>>97433805There are stylistic reasons to keep using 'and' like that, but the author here definitely wasnt deliberately making such a choice
>>97433824If you are writing the dialogue of a particular character who is a young child or an idiot, okay fine. But you did understand my point.
>>97433635Without being a bondsman? hmm tricky.I suppose you would have to either be in the reserve on one of the worlds galactic south of tukiyid, or simply ride off somewhere, power down, and live like a hermit til it all settles down.Best case you sign on with a merc unit and they can help you get the fuck out
>>97433805"Katie thought" is just bad construction. Why not something like "Katie fought down the urge to scream, face to face with the hauntingly beautiful remains of the woman."
>>97433465I like em. Ran a lance of them in mechwarrior 5 with large laser instead of ppc.Personally I dont like the SRMs, its not a mech thats ment to let things get that close so take a lesson of the Vindy and throw LRM 5s in it.
Custom rakshasa, dropped the artIV for narc ammo and a C3 slave, what can I do with the leftover 1 ton?
Hey, im new to the table top after finally learning my LGS has a group who plays. Only found out when I overheard one of the guys ask for some hex friendly terrain to use.I dont have enough for proper lance fights, but they do run small duels / skirmishes. I ordered a crab, vindicator, and two LRM carriers.Can I make the crab into a melee mech? If so, how?i was thinking a max armor crab with claws could be a good distraction while the LRMs rain down and the vindy guards them while taking ppc shots and throwing down some rain of its own.
>>97434022Crab is fine as a Crab. Customs are fun but I'd run the standard designs before starting to delve deep into customizing, with the extra caveat that if you're playing introtech there's no real reason to make a melee crab. If you want the beauty of a close range Crab there's the 27sl (Star League tech, though) that gets you in the beauty of jumpers with pulse lasers, at least they aren't Clan models so you have a short-range mobile fighter while your LRM and Vindi engage at range.Unicorn model, though.
>>97434022If running current game rules just use the Crab to kick and enemy to death. LRM Carriers btw are probably not going to be a strong as you think like depending what they bring might be lucky if you will get 2 turns of use out of them. I would also play introtech and no customs allowed if you are new to tabletop. 1R Vindicator is a good learner mech and I'd do duels just to learn the ropes first.
>>97433594>Cries in 10K.
>>97434076>>97434090Thanks for the advice.
>>97433805>She thought the woman was beautiful, haunting and Katie was surprised at herselfThat looks even worse to me because now it looks like a list that includes: beautiful + haunting + surprised.I would do something like, "The woman was hauntingly beautiful, and Katie was so fascinated by the corpse she forgot her fear of it."
>>97434093>tfw you can make a Panther that has better armor, speed, mobility and heat control for less than 100k more perit's so weird the Dracs gave DHS to so many mechs in the 3050s but not to one of their workhorses
>>97432746Referring to Sheliak where the DCMS abandoned the world, so without any proper forces to answer their Batchall, the planetary governor simply took his best athletes and challenged the Ghost Bears to a game of Handegg for the planet. Turns out even your best and fittest men are no match for genetically engineered monster girls and they lost 84-3.
>>97434163did they seriously never dual up the panther?
>>97434205not until years and years later
>>97434205They did use Panthers with DHS.
>>97434205They gave it an ER PPC without upgrading the heatsinks. Davions did something similar with the Enforcer by giving it an ER Large.
>>97434219clearly the dragon's wisdom was lacking that day
>>97433635Suicide vest. Death to the Bear.
>Be me. Playing War Thunder.>Bored out of mind.>Decide to go grind Japan's tier tree.>Have an idea.>"Glory to the Coordinator!">Silence for a few minutes.>"Honor the Dragon!" The other Japanese tanker on the team.>"Honor the Dragon now stfu." Soviet player.>"Fuck you Rasalhague." An American player.Heh.Now to custom-skin my Chi-To Late in all red with the Dragon on the side.
>>97434368That's not survival.
Having read and finished Lost Destiny two weeks ago, was the Rotunda's infamy in-universe set in stone by then? I ask because in that novel, the paltry Com Guard unit that tried to conquer Alyina used a Rotunda. While that was just a microcosm of how asanine Operation SCORPION was, surely those Com Guards should have known Rotundas don't make for good fighting vehicles.
>>97434387Thanks for that totally real story chatGPT
>>97434394Its not about survival. Its about honor.
>>97434368why?I could see the logic if we were talking the green parakeets or smoking kittens but the bears are fine.
Why is like half of the new fanart I see is catgirl mechwarriors?
>>97434451Tourists.
>>97434445I live by a code. ACMD.All Clanners Must Die.If I am captured, then I become the instrument of doom.
>>97433852That makes her sound necrophilic.
>>97434489This post honors the dragon!
We've successfully avoid being offed by both the DCMS and Blakist fans, which means its time to get back to some fierce mech on mech action.For our first semi-final match we have the Snow Rats vs the Golgotha Highlanders. Both these teams have been the only lances in the competition to win without a loss to their team, though for the Rats they have yet to lose a mech for both of their previous matches.As the current tournament favorites, the Rats are looking to continue their streak into the finals, but the Highlanders arsenal is going to pose serious wall to that ambition. Though the less skilled pilots, they are by far the heavier lance, and those pulse lasers are far more accurate than the gunline faced in the previous match. When asked for comment the Rat lance lead bishop shrugged and stated, "business as usual." before heading into the hanger for final checks. We went to the Highlander hangar next to check in on their feelings on the upcoming match only to find Misinfo locked themselves away, having lost money to horse racing in between matches. In their stead, lance Ace Nugget went on to state that, "no matter how skilled the Rats are, the highlanders have dug themselves out of much more difficult fights and come out alive, if not on top." To find out however, we'll have to get into the match itself as the final stretch of the tournament begins.
>>97434536And our first semifinal map
>>97434451The Magistracy finally bypassed Comstars filters.
>>97434548As the match advances both teams begin skirmishing in heavy woods as the rats once again begin their typical rush strategy. In a surprising and incredibly bold move, Bishop rushes both marauders to engage in some CQC and nimbly avoids the ensuing strikes to cause confusion in the Highlander lines.In the resulting confusion, Irish is focused down by the Snow rats and his leg is blown off sending him careening to the ground. Taking advantage of the 25 ton difference, Knight smashes the commando in the chest with a swift kick taking him out of the match and making this a 3v4.
i know that this is effectively a classic blunder, but why Mai Shiranui outfit in OP?
>>97433852>>97434127No argument here, the pertinent point is that we can all agree that a bunch of neckbearded fatguy grogs on a mongolian basket weaving forum have a better grasp of written english than this "author".I do believe bryan young is also the one who tried that "clanners be racist n' sheeit" pile of crap too?
>>97434588The snow rats keep piling on the pressure as a stray pulse laser ignites the ammo of Misinfo's marauder II through the armor causing a cascading failure in the mech further widening the lead for the Rats.It looks like another secure win for the rats, until after a daring 3v1 melee, Nugget blows the leg off of Knight and while avoiding retaliatory fire and kicks completely. She positions to be the first and only pilot to take out one of the Rats this tournament by finishing of the downed Knight. Unfortunately for her, counter fire appears to have knocked her unconsious as we see her mech stumble awkwardly and slump to the ground.With Jailbreak tussling with Rook further north, the other two rats are in a good position to finish the job on nugget.
>>97434642Yes. His kids are Trans so hes decided Twitter politics needs to be featured more in Battletech
>>97434654Its the 31st-32nd century. Is being trans, seriously, still an actual issue people should care about in-universe?
>>97434647In a stunning turn of a events we still have a game. Surrounded in a 3v 1 scenario after nugget is taken out Jailbreak blasts the cockpit right off of Rook evening the odds just a little bit With all mechs having sustained a good amount of damage, this match looks like it could go either direction depending on these next few moments!
Which of the Successor States has the most non-Russian slavs?
>>97434618Kuritan weeaboo-ism
>>97434699Rasalhague and Capellan Confederation.
>>97434667No and it's why you shouldn't urchase anything from cgl.We were printing models of higher quality than what they sell before they were a licensee and we've had perfectly good rules to play with since before then too.All they've done is try to grab at wallets with substandard product, most of which is copy and pasted from the books we already owned or being miniatures produced by the lowest bidder in china they could find, beyond that they've just jammed faggots into the property.Oh wait they also tried to dumb the game down to retarded levels with alpha strike and they basically failed because they were unable to push it sufficiently to replace actual battletech, hence the aforementioned copy and pasting of rules we already own.
>>97434714Rasalhauge has slavs? I thought they're all just blue eyed blonde happas.
>>97434749Rasalhague is space denmark, smoothbrain
>>97434755Ah, so niggers and muslisms?
>>97434697Unfortunately for the highlanders, Jailbreaks left leg is blown off, in a desperate attempt to stay in the match she stands her mech but falls in the process knocking her unconscious.This makes allows Gold and Bishop to effortlessly dispatch her catapult and end the match in another victory for the Snow rats.This was their hardest fought match yet, going down two mechs and near destruction for the remainders, but the rats are in the final.Though no longer on a perfect record, they are only one win from becoming the first ever champions of the Jihad Jam.To claim that title, we'll first have to see who their opponents are.The unsung heroes of Fac U Sean? Or the diabo- heroic forces of Davion, the Valorous Sunblade.Stay tuned to find out
>>97434780Thats Sweden, not Denmark.
>>97434780this game is from the 80's not the 10's-20's.
>>97434790Same thing at this point honestly.>>97434802That's why the happas were blonde.
>>97434699I was told Free Worlds League and the Lyran Commonwealth periphery regions.
>>97434786And the replay, good match. Really could have gone either way.
You have been visited by Cordera “Terror of Turtle Bay” Perez. He will nuke any planet of your choosing but only if you say: “Do it again Uncle Cordy!”
>>97434871For our next semifinal match, we went to the hangars of our personal favorite batch of bargain bin bad mechs, Fac U sean. Bane was unavailable for comment, but Lance member CIA went ahead to tells us that, "The inner Sphere brought 4 teams to the semi finals, but the trophy only had room for one." proceeding to ask our reporters a series of rhetorical or unprompted questions before kicking our entire team out of the hangar. Moving to the Valorous Sunblade hangar, our team avoided Dwingus SKMD, who was thankfully distracted by media from the Federated Suns proper and spoke with his lance mate, Brick.Brick wasn't much of a talker only responding with grunts and gestures, but when asked if he believed that his team would win the championship, the man flashed a smug smile and gave a very enthusiastic thumbs up. With the starting klaxons beginning, we quickly evacuated to our commentator booth in order to bring you all the action in this second semi final match.
>>97434897Do it again uncle Cordy!
There any places in the IS notably settled by Iberians?
>>97434699Is it like sweet pasta? Because I can see that but if you're throwing strawberries in with your tomato sauce I fear poland may be beyond saving
>>97434909This looks like its going to be an entertaining setup.>>97434931Georgian or Spanish?
>>97434909The lines advance shooting their long range weapons and scoring several big hits but no major damage, this all changes as Pavel rushes the Sunblade line and with a lucky missile to the cockpit of One of the Sunblade jagermechs.This knocked out the pilot and sent the mech straight to the ground shortly after. A sitting duck for the forces of Fac U Sean, the jagermech is quickly taken out while Brick's centurion takes a nasty hit to the gyro, which we can hear groaning all the way here.Things are looking bad for the Sunblade's chances against these bad mechs.
>>97434967Brick is taken out by a while placed volley from Fac u Sean and a 3v4 becomes a 2v4 and very quickly a 1v4 as the Sunblade's 2nd jagermechs is torn to pieces by the FWL reps unrelenting firepower. With Dwingus Davion surrounded and hiding in a lake, he may be regretting the comment given to the media earlier today that, "A bad mech probably means a worse pilot."
>>97434093>>Cries in 10K.>>97434163>>97434205Always go with the 10K2, enough Double Heat Sinks to jump AND Alpha at the same time!>>97434193>Turns out even your best and fittest men are no match for genetically engineered monster girls and they lost 84-3.I mean it was a miracle play they got close enough for the kick!>>97434451Catgirls are Canon!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjuK9btG62c
>>97434942>boil some pasta>eat with fresh strawberries>sugar optional>strawberry smoothie sauce optionalIt's just pasta with fruit, similar to pasta with fried apples.
>>97434999Dwingus fights valiantly but loses his autocannon in the struggle, with defeat creeping closer and closer, Dwingus hides from the enemy lance. Things are looking very bad for the Scion of New Avalon.
>>97434943Spaniards & or Portuguese
>>97435024And with one reckless and insane charge, Dwingus's Enforcer is subject to the full firepower of FUS and is taken down as his engine is totaled completely.With this we have a winner and we have the setup for our final match. The skilled piloting of the Snow Rats versus the heroic underdog story of the maligned mechs of Fuc u Sean.Stay tuned for our exciting finale.
>>97435035FWL if I remember has a few regions that were settled by such groups. I'll have to double check some stuff.>>97435053Holy fuck that was a rape.
>>97435053Wait did Bane just shoot a man before drowning him in a lake?
>>97435053Replay, We will be going straight into the final and be done with this.
>>97435110He absolutely did.>>97435133And here we are folks, We've met teh teams we know the pilots and we love the mechs.Starting from the north end, we have the Snow Rats, our intrepid lyran mechs turned guerillas.Starting from the south, we have Fac U Sean, the Free World league fighters on a mission to show that a bad rap is sometimes just because of bad opinions.A classic match up as the fist of Steiner meets the eagle of Marik in this our final round. With no further ado we are jumping straight in to crown our champion. Place your bets now folks, cause we're going in hot.
>>97435188Our Map for the Championship fight
>>97434667>Its the 31st-32nd century. Is being trans, seriously, still an actual issue people should care about in-universe?Man with some of their Gene Tech and Iron Wombs, I could make you a biological catgirl!
>>97434931There's a planet in cappie space called Palos that has continents named Cartagena, Murcia, and Valencia, with its own Iberian peninsula.
>>97435196R5 We see some major engagements with heavy damage all around Bane taking a majority of the damage on for FUS while it spreads around the snow rats mechs. With bane toppling over and his CT armor being stripped nearly completely off, our assault trooper may be the first mech to go down.
>>97434667It's a big universe. Typically no one cares about skin color but there was a space apartheid planet in the Lyran Commonwealth before Katrina Steiner finally slapped their shit and forced them to be normal
What's the point of putting TSM in the scarabus when it can't even overheat 10 SHS? They could have at least put ER lasers in it no?
>>97434667Seeing how they basically don't exist in battletech and nobody mentions them, the issue was settled by the rates returning to normal levels and nobody paying any more attention to them but as the occasional oddity again.
>>97435199You really could, so in that case, are they even still Trans? I say no.
>>97435274You can turn heat sinks off.
>>97435238Both teams scramble to do as much damage as they can with what they have left as pavelheer duels bishop away from the action CIA and masketta fight rook knight and gold. CIA gets his leg destroyed by a vicious salvo and is dispatched. Up north, Pavel destroys Bishop's gyro while having his leg blown off by a burst of pulse fire. Gold rushes after Pavel to assist Bishop but is too late to stop his Uziel from going up in flames and is herself taken out by a volley of streak SRMS into the CT from Pavel.With no leg however Pavel can only watch as Masketta is also picked apart by rook and Knight as his leg and gyro are both destroyed and then finally the XL Engine.It will take a miracle for FUS to win as with no way to move, Pavel is a sitting duck
>>97435286>>97435199I've seen nothing stating even the star league was able to transplant a functional womb into a male and modify his body's chemistry to maintain its functionality and produce healthy offspring, and modify his brain to be physically and chemically identical to a naturally matured female.I don't see BT's biotech being that advanced and I don't see them having a reason to make it that advanced either.
>>97435311That is a good sense of it too. Lets drop the subject since it is of no use to the actual story of Battletech nor does it have any impact on gameplay.
>>97435303Damn, would have been hilarious to see the shitpost unoptimized lance win and someone send the results to Sean.
>>97435311>stating even the star league was able to transplant a functional womb into a male and modify his body's chemistry to maintain its functionality and produce healthy offspringThey could probably do it.>modify his brain to be physically and chemically identical to a naturally matured femaleAnd this likely wouldn't matter, unless you want to open that neurological can of worms.>>97435321>since it is of no use to the actual story of BattletechI mean I could use it for a Mad Scientist plying their trade!
>>97435303AND THAT IS IT! Without being able to move, Pavel takes uncontested fire from rook as knight closes in.Looking to finish the job knight charges Pavel with pulse fire but is unable to any critical components while a alpha strike from pavel sends Knight falling to the ground, but a long shot blast from Rook's LB-x auto-cannon peppers Pavel's mech shredding multiple critical locations damaging the gyro and shredding the remaining leg and its actuators.Unable to stand anymore despite his best attempts, Pavel falls over and the ground causes the mech to cease functioning...With Pavel out we have a clear winner, our inaugural Jihad Jam champions are the Snow Rats!An excellent match and a deserved win, as Fuc U Sean did not go quietly and have proved, within my mind at least, that their mechs are anything but bad. Congratulations once more to the Snow Rats
>>97435378>a alpha strike from pavel sends Knight falling to the groundAt least he went out swinging!
>>97435378So a complete shitpost of a lance using all 4/5 pilots despite having BV spare to upgrade said pilots manages to secure 2nd place? Something tells me if the map wasn't one that didn't allow them to use their long range weapons they probably would have scraped a victory.
>>97435378and our replay from this excellent match>>97435355I think they did really well throughout the whole tourney and I liked all the mech choices regardless. A win by them would have been very funny I agree.>>97435397Very possible,but both teams were able to put fire down range pretty quickly. One thing the rats have done the whole time is rush down opposition pretty quickly.>>97435390No one went down easy
Hey guys I'm going to Gen. Liao's Chicken, what you guys want?
>>97435418A schizo Liao wife.
>>97435441Thats not on the menu.
>>97435413Really goes to show how speed can grant a huge advantage. Those LRM's were basically useless.>>97435441You just said Liao twice?
>>97435413Did you keep a record of who got the most kills through the tournament?
>>97435413Damn, was hoping FUS would pull out a win.
>>97434219That enforcer has singles?
>>97435530Yep. IIRC freezers were harder to manufacture for the Dracs and FedRats.
>>97435521I think everyone did.>>97435530The 5D? Yeah. Also has an XL. Basically a design study on how to ruin a perfectly good mech.>>97435544It really makes no sense why the FedRats struggled with DHS since they were the ones to reintroduce them and were had them in production well ahead of everyone else. Even is stated that the DHS access gave them a considerable advantage in the early years of the FedCom. The only explanation I can think of is they did produce a bunch of them but were selling them on the black market to buy more expensive dresses.
>>97435462Well it damn should be!
>>97426812...and?
>>97435566The real explanation is that DHS are really good and it would have made a bunch of TRO:3050 designs too optimized if they had them. The fake explanation could be that they had throughput problems and it's much easier to add DHS in the field than stuff like XL engines and Endo Steel structure. They had a nice, phased upgrade schedule to be completed in 3056 or so, and then the knights of camelot came back at the head of an army of fae.
Magnets, how do they work?
>>97435499Unfortunately I did not, but I can say the one that consistently was getting kills each match was Nugget from the highlanders and Bishop from the rats. everyone
What mechs out there resemble the dragoon?
>>97435462It's on the secret menu, you gotta ask for it.
>>97435669>Gotta use the secret Gen. Liao Chicken Handshake.>Takes you to the back.>You get thirty minutes with your Commie Mommy.>Blonde Slav.>Chinese Dominatrix.>Black Guerilla.>L.A. Descendant.
>>97435464Speed is Life
>>97435659The Lancelot is the same overall profile I guess, just boxy instead of round.
>>97435566The 5D has potential too, if you just downgraded it to 4/6/4 and kept the XL you can add just enough heat sinks to walk and shoot the arm guns no problem. What really sucks is you don't get an enforcer variant that follows the classic large laser and AC10 combo until the III M and Ma (whatever happened to the II anyway?) and those are over sunk and still rocking XLs. Not to say that's all bad, I don't mind ISXLs and think a lot of their hate is over exaggerated, but if this is one of your staple workhorse designs, shouldn't there be one variant at least that's more rugged with cheaper technologies?
>>97435707OG Star League lancelot looks the best.Like a Spaceman.
>>97434667>>97435199People already stopped to give a shit about trans time ago and moved to more revelant topics in the universe of battletech
That was good fun and I would be willing to do it again if people think another run would be enjoyable.I remember an anons earlier question before I started about BA and tanks and I do think that that might be neat,.Initiative is strong though so if it was included I would think only 2 of either max, so 1 tank and one BA not 2 BA and 2 tanks since the idea is still 4 mechs as the main stay. Might open up the idea of Star as well cause fitting a Star sounds like some interesting enough combat math though that sort of forces people to work around a 5th mech being present possibly.That said you would have to work around the BA or tanks as well so its a thought.If that's the case though would 6.5k still be best total to play around with or up it to 7k?>>97435689You go slow, you die.
>>97435640Damn would have been interesting to see.>>97435725>What really sucks is you don't get an enforcer variant that follows the classic large laser and AC10 combo until the III MEnforcer III I feel is more like a different mech altogether but it does start with the AC/10 + Large Laser combo and the 5D is one but shit?I have been told for the classic Enforcer the 5R is good but that is Dark Age era and I really don't play that.We also might see more Enforcer variants if they do an anniversary of the TRO 3050 like what they did with TRO 3025.
One spider and one venom in a lance or a pair of one of them?
>>97435760Well my Jagermech lance fell apart as soon as they stopped getting those lucky crits, a slow glass cannon is otherwise a sitting duck for a skilled striker. Need something tougher and more mobile. But cannot get rid of the autocannons.
>>97435771Two Spiders, two Venoms. Wanna be fancy add a Stalking Spider or Tarantula, call it a Star.
>>97435757I mean MAYBE, but there is always going to be a market for shit like a bigger dick.
>>97435771For what? If doing objectives grab an Ostscout to complete the collection.
>>97434897Do it again Uncle Cordy!
>>97435796Yeah but for 90% of the universe such things are just plain degenerancy, like the people making cyber body modfications or clanners life style of cloning and shit
>>97435464The feeling of being in a fast moving mech and hauling ass in hile dodging waves of missiles must be fucking euphoric.
>>97435865I would be a cowfag tomorrow if they had a weapons manufacturer named Tauras Armas making brazillions of legally distinct knock offs of various small arms.
The dragon is GAY!
>>97435768Elaborate, ESL-kun
>>97435990
>>97435955Do they fire when shaken too hard and it's their customer service quikcell tier?
>>97435876>Yeah but for 90% of the universe such things are just plain degenerancy,That's still ten percent!
So most every star system has an inhabitable planet, but then you get places like the hyades or pleiades clusters that have tons and tons of inhabitable planets right on top of eachother?
Would you date an Ice Hellion chick?>Always fast, split second decisions, rushes headlong into whatever.>Constantly struggles to get attention but can never seem to hold it.>Never taken seriously. Gives her an inferiority complex.>Grasps for her goals but never really reaches them.>May be tsundere for you but may also want to claw your eyes out.
>>97435992When CGL did the whole anniversary edition of TRO 3025 they included in the appendix a fuckton of new variants for all the mechs. No record sheets sadly but a lot we have a good idea of what they are since most are based on vidya variants, stuff referenced in books, magazines etc For example there's now a Marauder MAD-3V that is basically a 3/5 Marauder but armed with an AC/20 and all the variants from the Crescents Hawks Inception got made canon.
>>97436032>got made canonUh-huh, a licensee of the fourth(?) secondhand company to purchase the franchise doesn't define canon.But let's examine this by the rules shall we? Every possible mech configuration that complies with the mech construction rules is canon
>>97435775I think an actual 4 jagermech lance backed up by either two BA or two Davion as fuck tanks would be incredibly funny
>>97436057>or two Davion as fuck tanksDemolishers or Partisans?
>>97436003I can tell you personally as a life long Taurus customer that they produce only the highest quality firearms with the utmost care given to rigorous QC. Anyone stating otherwise is probably a Feddie plant.
>>97436003If you're a capellan (I would've said or fedrat but they wouldn't ship to the suns)
>>97436048Are you suggesting that everything after FASA went under including the whole ilclan era is non canon?
>>97436076Are you implying you let anyone other than yourself dictate what is canon?
>>97436076Everything I don't like exists in a status of dubious canonicity
>>97436076Anything post word of blake sperg out is non cannon to me. And even then only parts of it I accept.Like the near ruining of the FWL was just dumb.
>>97436086>>97436090Good men
Mechassault 1 and 2 are canon and everything after them isn't
>>97436099I agree. We write our own canon here.
>>97436061A demolisher would feel like a better body guard for the jagermechs but a partisan just means 8 more AC/5s going down range which sounds incredibly silly and very fedsuns
I want megafauna clad in mech armor in weapons. What already existing unit type would best serve as a proxy for this?
Tell us about your OC custom ride
>>97436153I have customs I use, but no donut steel characters. I just dont see the point, they will either die in the cockpit or fail a retention roll. But the mech stays with me until it cores out.
>>97436086Headcanon is pointless because nobody shares your headcanon but you.You can't discuss lore with people if the people you're discussing it with don't have a shared understanding of what you're talking about.
>>97436076Suggesting? I just fucking DECLARED it is so.
>>97435635OK, but why?
>>97436181Why would I care about what others think?
>>97436194Because you're using a website for interacting with other people.
>>97436181given that the most popular game eras are STILL succ wars and clan invasion, then your opinion means that ilclan, dark age, etc... are all excluded from that common shared understanding.
>>97436153I would have one but the shogun 2E exists and that's pretty much exactly what I would want as a personal mech.
>>97436199Is that what you think we do here?
>>97436213Unless we're having a psychotic episode, that's what you're doing right now.
>>97436212You are of course allowed to like whatever you want. But thats fucking weird bro.
>>97436219Lmao
>>97436220?The shogun is cool as fuck, ice cold
>>97436153Made an attempt at the ideal Thunderbolt, because it's my favorite design. Had to make it 75 tons and use clan-tech, but such is life.
>>97436220I went and worked out exactly what I'd want on my mech one day and then figured out the shogun coincidentally was that.
>>97435616It's just a mimetic sneak suit
>>97436164That's an interesting approach. In my most recent unit I've specifically made a couple 'mook lances' of faceless mechwarriors so my characters have less a risk of dying. That and it's hard coming up with a name and personality trait for a whole battalion of mechs
Does anyone have good pictures of D.E.S.T. or guys in sneak suits?
>>97436306DEST agent codename: Snake Eyes.
>>97436190Torso twist and the arms because its fancy.
>>97436153Succession Wars downgrade of the Nightstar, a shell kept for appearances:>a line of mercenaries claiming they're descendants of SLDF officers>true or not, they have a Nightstar>or rather the frame - nearly everything inside of it is third party replacements aside from the cockpit and the electronics inside>the family is obsessed with the status so any pay they earn is funneled towards keeping the Nightstar running, be it by purchasing third party parts that are as close to the original ones as possible to taking part in any black market auctions that are even rumored to have some of Nightstar parts found in some rediscovered SLDF armoryBasically I like the model and wanted to use it in introtech games so I completely downgraded all the tech. Boring on paper but fun to play, at least to me.
>>97436335You do you, my guy.
>>97436263Hot take, but the Royal Thunderbolt is THE perfect Thunderbolt, at least as far as Inner Sphere tech goes. >LL swapped for ER PPC for extra range and punch>LRMs and SRMs both upgraded >the machine gun ammo bomb replaced with small pulse lasers, the superior anti-infantry weapon>three MLs stay as they are - perfectly efficent, with the right number for the weight>endo to get the weight down for all of the above>DHS to keep it all as cool as possibleChef's kiss.
>>97436342>I like the model and wanted to use it in introtech games so I completely downgraded all the tech. Boring on paper but fun to play, at least to me.I like your style, Anon.
>>97436356Valid, but I want to go 5/8/5.
>>97436263I made a custom thunderbolt once that was a 5SS that could go 6/9
>>974363815/8/5 is such a badass move profile for mediums and heavies. but assaults tend to sacrifice too much to get it. unless they're filthy cheaters with clan XLFE.
>>97436342Huh, I could have sworn there was an introtech nightstar
>>97433465They're fine as the Jagdlanzer IV's of the setting, the only issue is in exchange for the PPC (you will only take this) you have little to defend yourself and require being at maximu distance pelting the target until they die. In straight up brawls they get torn down and if the arm gets hit you're fucked. End of story. Take one in your lance as a dedicated sniper or an entire lance just to pop singular targets one at a time
>>97436153A clint.My issue is what its actually armed with cause I'm torn between sprucing it up or keeping the idea of the original with an LB-X AC
>>97435016cartgirls are reddit and you need to go back there, nigger.
>>97436464If your sniper is brawling then you have bigger problems, snipers are meant to be glass cannons, invest the saved BV into a better front line brawler.
So I remember Branths existing, but I seem to have missed the fire breathing dragons? Do I start learning about them from the Cattlemaster entry?
The ideal mech for me is heavy, heavily armored, built around the MINIMUM of an AC/10, yet still maneuverable
>>97436153>Morena: Customized Cossack. SRM-6 swapped out for SRM-2. Extra Medium Laser. DHS instead of singles. SRM-2 is loaded with Infernos. >Yoshabel: Customized Mongoose-76. Mouth-mounted laser replaced with a Flamer.
>>97435199>tranny catalystgames employee fingers typed this
>>97436472The main thing with a Clint is to give it the most powerful handgun in the world
>>97436153>Tell us about your custom rideA BLK-7-KNT refit. Engine swapped to an uprated xl to get movement to 5/8. TSM and a supercharger. DHS kit. ER PPC. I choose to meet the Clan menace with a similar movement profile and dezgra combat style.
>>97436153Stock kingfisher, but in-game the mercs don't know that, they just found an oddly recent SLDF cache that was pretty deep in the periphery and had an old-earth animal head marking on all the walls and crates alongside the SLDF 331st markings.
>>97436507a HAG40?
>>97436528RISC laser or HVAC 10 call it.
>>97436507>>97436153Take a Clint IIC, rip everything out and give it Clan Ultra/20 with 20 rounds and switch to FF for a bit of a defense boost/crit padding. Now you are true Clint man
>>974364435/8/5 C3M Grand Dragon (custom) my beloved
>>97436562>did I fire one shot or two this turn?
Man, the Razorback is an ugly little thing.
>>97436153Had a pair of PPC Atlases, one with 5 regular, the other 6 snub. Called them Big Five and Snub Lyfe.
>Arctic Cheetah>Arctic Wolf>Arctic Wolf (Omni)>Arctic FoxWhat is it with the arctic?
>>97437109>Arctic CheetahNamed after the big cat that hunts the Arctic Gazelle, racing across the snowy expanse of the Arctic Veldt to run down its prey.
>tfw 5/8/5 ac/10 fleeing another mech and happening to pass by another immobile one>blew its head off mid sprintI should pick up the pen again sometime and draw some of these moments
>>97437222I'd love to see drawings of anon moments or events.
>>97436153Brimstone, a 70t Heavy, designed to be as inexpensive as possible during the clan invasion era. Kind of like the Merlin for the Periphery or Mercs to use. The only 'advanced' tech it uses is DHS. 2 x LL's, 2 x Med las, 4 x SRM2's with 1t Normal, 1t Inferno, 2 x Flamers. Standard everything else, 5/8. I haven't finished fucking around with it yet, its currently got a Small Laser, but I'm fairly certain the mech constructor I'm using isn't counting armor weight at the moment and I'm not certain I'm done with it. I'm currently using 'Jeffs Mech Creator'.It reckons the Cbill cost is $6.7mil, verses say a Rakshasa which came out in 3055 which was just shy of $19mil.
>>97436153Well I was just cooking something up for my Groups Death Arena next week...>>97436275>That and it's hard coming up with a name and personality trait for a whole battalion of mechsHell I rarely even put a Pilot name on the sheet.>>97436342>Basically I like the model and wanted to use it in introtech games so I completely downgraded all the tech.Always appreciate an Introtech Downgrade.>>97436473Catgirls have been in this game for at least 14 years.
>>97437268 It does get annoying seeing people dumb all of conopus down to catgirls, conveniently leaving out the cyborg prostitute part
>>97437300>conveniently leaving out the cyborg prostitute partSure, but it's the same with people conveniently leaving out that Clanners molest their Sibbies; Harsh, ugly realties they don't want to face.
>>97437300They leave out all of the skeevy parts of Canopus even though those are what make it interesting.
>>97437300Limbless cyborg prostitute...
So assuming sticking with 6.5k allow up to 2 BA/tanks sound fine?>>97437300Bold of people to assume the catgirls aren't the prostitutes or that there aren't other varieties of nonsense.
>>97437300>>97437407I thought you guys were talking about Canopus not the Word of Blake
>>97437424Hmmm. What if some of the Manei Dominei disappeared into Canopian society and became one of the travelling pleasure circuses, disguised as cyberfetish performers? Surviving post-Jihad, travelling unimpeded through the Inner Sphere, welcomed, even, wherever they went, collecting intelligence, smuggling other Blakists back to their MoC holdings, acquiring technology and materiel to stockpile, blackmailing select individuals, secretly advancing a long term agenda. Watching. Waiting.
>>97437371>They leave out all of the skeevy parts of Canopus even though those are what make it interesting.Eh, you can only get so much out of sexual exploitation.The medical technology, however, allows you to explore all sorts of transhuman horrors.>>97437453See what I mean?
>>97437466That's the thing, medical exploitation and almost any other kind of exploitation for profit is among the skeevy parts that fans try to ignore. When the Canopian pleasure circus jumps into your system, people going up there and coming back all fucked up from drugs and in debt from gambling and maybe recovering from sketchy elective surgery procedures is all part of it. Dumb kids run off to literally join the circus and end up working to repay a debt they accrued while working because the ship is flagged to the most laissez-faire space nation that isn't blacklisted for open piracy and the only actual law that they care about is if dealings are "consensual", not if they're just or fair or made while informed and sober.But no, it's just catgirls and vague feminism.
Are infantry effective at screening against Elementals for the BV?
Why should I care if tourists only talk about catgirls? Thats like getting mad about someone playing a game wrong. It has no effect on how you engage with Canopus.
>>97437517You do know that it's canon that the pleasure circuses are just fronts for the MiM, right?
>>97437544Screening what?
>>97437550And also huge degenerate pleasure circuses that regular people never suspect are anything other than the place to go to be dazzled by funky lights while under the influence of whatever they're selling in the vending machines before deciding to go fuck a centaur or get the two for one penis enlargement special at the walk-in surgeon.
>>97437424Arn't Ebon magistrate whatevers some flavor of cyborg supersoldier?
>>97437578"Cyborg enhancements" can mean everything from a post-human nightmare to a normal looking guy with a secret microphone in his finger.
>>97437578They're pretty serious about their job, the MIM agents are more likely to be in a control room somewhere watching the cameras while you lose all your chips at poker table.
>>97437578Yeah man. Outside of Wob Canopus is where you score your cyborgs.
>CyborgAbsolute degenerancy, enjoy getting shot at sight
>>97437684A lot of cyborgs look like normal people. Someone you know, or think you know, might even be a cyborg. Watching you. Waiting.
I am going to hire Canopian cyberneticests to enhance my goons with myomer implants and pain shunts. That is all.
>>97436507I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire five shots or only four?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is an AC20, the most powerful autocannon in the sphere, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?
>>97437746
>>97436206Yes, it would be foolish to try to discuss ilclan with someone that doesn't care about it and doesn't know about it.
>>97437746They will come back addicted to drugs.
It's all fun and games utul someone gets stuck in a cramped cockpit.
>>97435760Rats guy here. Fuck, now I'm going to have to paint my girl a Centurion.Good tournament everyone. I'm kinda happy to see my lance do so well but it was especially cool seeing all the different strategies playing out on the board.Reposting the shitpost to immortalize (mostly) complete Uziel domination.
>>97437944Skill issue, become a dwarf.
>>97437746What are you gonna use the goons for?
>>97437684The flesh is weak you mother fucker.
>>97437550One doesn't contradict the other, so I don't see how that matters.
>>97438312>The flesh i-*BLAM*
>>97438481Then you need to think a bit harder
>>97437517It's "You're in debt, so we'll chop your legs off and you'll be working as a mermaid in an egg laying culinary show. At least until the debt has compounded far enough and we have a buyer for your organs."-type liberalism.
I was once talking with someone about the HBStech game and they forgot the name for the Magistracy of Canopus, so he said "the ones with the catgirls". To his credit I did understand who he meant.
>>97436306https://www.sarna.net/wiki/DEST_Infiltration_Suit
>>97437517The entire reason they only allow women in the top leadership positions is that because of the way testosterone works, men who are aggressive enough to succeed in a capitalist system tend to be more xenophobic than average, which is poison to a system the requires constant growth and expansion of the manpower and customer base.
>>97438499meaningless drivel
>>97438645Then why respond?
>>97438653because
>>97438663Of course. Retard is as retard does, after all
>>97438670Luckily being retarded isn't a crime, so you're free to go
>>97438691Ladies first
>>97438709I'd tell you you'll never a woman, but Canopian technology is pretty crazy like that, so go right ahead
>>97438713Why would I want to be a woman when you fill the role better than I could?
Stop engaging with the thread schizo.
>>97438606The entire reason they only allow women in the top leadership positions is that writers thought woman with whip is sexy. Some might also had jungle fever.
>>97438513>we have a buyer for your organsDude we can grow Organs made to order, honestly easier that way since you don't have to deal with whatever periphery developmental disorders some rat off the street is going to have.
>get shadow of kerensky DLC>spend a couple weeks of IRL play and several years in game packing a mechbay with SLDF leftovers, tuned up assault mechs and a couple hero mechs>clan missions are actually way easier than the high level spheroid contracts i was doing yesterday>also the otomo katapult with 2x cER PPC, projectile predictive FCS and projectile speed upgrades just teleports the PPC bolt straight into your assholeI honestly expected better from Kerensky's children. So far it's just been crushing a supernova trinary every time they make planetfall. I anticipated actually losing a couple mechs and the worst thing that's happened is the Hatomoto-Chi getting its left arm blown off every mission.
>>97438874There is always a black market.Even office chairs have a black market.
>>97436153I've posted this guy before and actually finished putting terrain on the base since this pic was taken.BL-6-KNT, errant mechwarrior that survived the opening stages of the Clan Invasion. Left arm was blown off, replaced with a salvaged and non-functional AC/5 chassis that is actually carrying 6 RL-10s. Head canon is that it's 6 large fragmentation rockets stuffed down the barrels. Other weapons systems replaced with the cER LLs, ER MLs and Tarcomp ripped from a Summoner D that got its cockpit smashed in with the hatchet. Supercharger mounted for an extra surprise when it's time to charge in and knock something on it's ass.Really is a fucking rape machine but one that people seem to like enough to let me use it. Maybe it's because I did the custom work on the model or because it is such a wild mishmash of parts that it seems like something that would actually be prowling around the Periphery fucking up entire lances of pirates. Having lore to explain the add-ons and nothing being particularly optimized about it probably helps.
>>97438925Yeah, but organs out of a body are perishable goods.It takes at least two weeks to go from a planet in one star system to a planet in the next one over, so you are going to need some kind of tech to keep them fresh.At some point it is just easier to mass grow high compatibility clone organs than deal with whatever grab bag you get off a random street urchin.And Office Chairs are grey market at worse.
>>97438917Which is why you play all the DLCs for the first time from the tailored preset start. I lost every mech I had in the first mission, ejecting from the Nightstar after triggering the mission exit and going through half the DLC without it.
>>97438977I had an Emperor redesign where it lost a side torso so they managed replace everything on the left hand side with clan salvage during the 3050's. So they swapped in a Clan UAC20 from a Hunchback IIC as well as a Clan ERLL.This does not improve the mech. In fact it fucking ruins the heat management.I'd post the sheet but then I remember 4chin don't allow them PDF's no more.
What are your favorite mechs for a straight-up fight in close quarters? In descending weight order I love my Banshee 8-S, my Vulture MkIV D, and my Nightsky 4S (I know the 6T would be better but I don't have one in my campaign game).
>>97439252Orion ON-1 VA. 8 SRM's, an AC/10 plus ML's, all heat neutral.
>>97439252I could take all those mechs
>>97439353In a fight right?
>>97439252Thugs, Thuds, Ostsols, Hunchbacks, Avatars, Warhammers, Battlemasters, Black Knights, Wolverines, Crabs, Starslayers, Bushies, Black Hawk Ku, Lightray, Gurkha, No Dachi, Nightsky, ti tsang, thunder, atlas, berserker, Banshee. If I thought about it more I could probably add to it.
>>97439252Victor
>>97439252Sei'rem, Shedu, djinn, purifiers, nighthawks, ISS, grenadiers, fenrir, fenrir II, GDL Shrike, the Zuch, srm carrier, demolisher, the triple ac/10 alacorn, ontos, Rommel/Patton, hetzer, jump platoons.
>>97439366
>>97439252Has some good fun with a Longbow 13C yesterday!
>>97439252Based Banshee-8S enjoyerI also really enjoy a 5T Marauder, and as much as it craves an ammo explosion, the triple srm6 Kintaro is a blast
>>97437268>Catgirls have been in this game for at least 14 years.proves him right
What's the best way to use a platoo- err, lance of Scorpions?
>>97439449Scorpion tanks or mechs, this is important
>>97439468I thought the "platoo-" would have been enough to specify that I meant tanks. Sorry
hey, what's the book that has the scenario with 16 or so training mechs, I can't recall if it's Stingers or Wasps.
>>97439252I agree with you on the Nightsky, and I like the Axman 3S if it's available.
>I can't handle the weight of this champ material machine.
>>97439544>Drives and fights like a fat Orion>It's a different weight class so randos expect different things!Don't care. Orions doing Orion things.
>>97439544>When you are so "bad" you earn 2nd place in a tournament with a bunch of other "bad" mechsSean forever BTFO!
>>97439523Pull off their turrets and rebuild them as Pattons instead
>>97439599>>97439591in celebration
>>97436153Custom Ymir because I just like how it looks.
>>97439669Fucking kek. Absolutely glorious anon! Truly a big mech for big guys!
>>97439544>>97439591I have never had an Orion do anything other than die to an ammo explosion in the first few turns
>>97439766Then you do not believe in Kerensky hard enough.
>>97439669Righteous.
>>97439449As a distraction, or to hurt bugs if you have precision ammo.
>>97439766I've never had an Orion die to an ammo explosion. Or die.
>>97439766Dont lie to me. Ammo explosions arnt real.
>>97439773>>97439812>>97439858No these things are cursed, all that armor and every match I catch TACs early or it gets knocked over and falls on something important. Its got more ammo bins than a Crusader. I fought one in MegaMek last night and on the second turn I triple crit its engine. Theyre cursed.
>>97439081There's no reason to remove the organ from the donor before the operation in this case. The donor isn't going anywhere unless their owners tell him to.Also growing organs costs money while the donor's been earning for them.
Today I learned that if the belligerent is unwilling to ransom p.o.w.s there are alternatives available.
>>97439973Megamek is rigged though.
>>97440046Prince of wales?
>>97440368It really feels that way with TACs. My assault mechs get engine crits turn 1 from LRM5s and I put 13 TACs in a Warhammers torsos without ever hitting anything inside.
The grim reaper is a weird mech, thoughts on it?
>>97440023>There's no reason to remove the organ from the donor before the operation in this case.That's even WORSE!Now you have to go to all the effort to see if your "Donor" even has any organs worth harvesting, line up a buyer while keeping your Donor alive, and when you finally harvest you are probably wasting at least two or three other organs!Sure, MAYBE you could spend the extra time to have lined up additional buyers, but how many paying customers are you going to find in a population of 100 million spread across three star systems?And for WHAT?Recouple a C-bill or two having them turn tricks in the meantime?My Cloning Cells might not be pleasuring my thugs in their off hours, but I can decide my time to harvest while offering my customers what they WANT and with WAY less overhead!Hell, I can just keep a few sets of the big ticket items "On-the-vine" to decant whenever and/or where ever an opportunity arises.
>>97440502>Thoughts?Blake's will be done!
>>97440502i never liked the "one big weapon strapped onto one arm' look.Sadly my beloved black knight is also guilty of this.If its ment to have one fuck off weapon, just make that weapon the arm like the panther, vindy, even awesome do.
>>97440502I want to say it's a lrm carrier with ok armor. I never used it but my house mate liked them.
>>97440502If I was to make a generalization its like a better take on the Shadow Hawk as in 5M that can't jump. I dislike that the TSM variants have all those weapons in the arms which I feel defeats the point.
>>97440502>Poor sealinghttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Reptar
>>97440502Its a blakist Griffin. Its a cool mech but like most blakist things it stops showing up after a certain point. I like them, Im gonna put one in my WoB level II whenever I get around to finishing it.
>>97440585It boosts kicks too
>>97440502It makes me wonder how manu Reapers units ended up in the great houses once cuckstar and blacked died lol
>>97440609True but there are a few instances where I'd like to have punching be an option after shooting.
>>97440502Get deaded, nerd
How do you think a /btg/ mekwars server would turnout?
>>97440679Depends on how you'd moderate access...
>>97440679Into a gay orgy within 5 minutes?
>>97434731>Alpha Strike>failedhahahha
>>97440705No we let all the monkeys in. Then ban any that go off the reservation. Normie tier topics allowed going /pol/ schizo is not.
Was screwing around with it but I do think that, with 6.5k an allowance of up to 2 tank/BA is perfectly reasonable. As long as the rest of the BV fills out with mechs having 2 non mech units supplementing should make for some interesting builds/fun matches.Should also make for some very sad matches when somebody's tank gets engine crit turn 1 by a 1 missile hit lrm5.
For shits and giggles I decided to take on a Mad Cat with 4 Pattons, but the map was too small and broken for the tanks so they couldn't form a proper firing line and just got immobilized then picked apart one by one despite a ~1500 BV advantage
>>97440845Should've taken kangas
>>97439858>laughs in BFFL drone bomb
>>97440593That only applies to one of the custom GRMs though
If you could design a character who'd bring honor to the dragon during the War of 3039, who would they be and what would they pilot?
>>97441294Unironically I'd want a stinger lam pilot who kept his family mech usable and served with distinction all the way to BULLDOG, just to show off the pure tenacity of a good MechWarrior and showcase just how all these family mechs lasted throughout the 3rd Succession War era.
>>97441359Don't let Herb hear you say that!
>>97441359I wonder how many Stinger and Wasp pilots are unknowingly piloting a LAM, but they just don't know it. They always thought their machines were heavier than normal because they were held together with duct tape and dreams
>>97441359>>97441294>Malcom "Mack" Toyoma>Staunch practitioner of bushido and overall honorable warrior>But once in the cockpit of his LAM, there's a fire in his eyes and a clear love for fast paced movement. >Heir to his samurai family's personal mech, a customized stinger LAM>Has been harshly trained in both mech and ASF combat to best utilize his unique family mech>Highly regarded for his lightning raider tactics and larger than average ASF cadre to back up his forces>Veteran of the War of 3039 and staunch supporter of Teddy K, earning himself a C3 and material support to upgrade his lagging light LAM>Was known as practically untouchable for most of his career, never getting scratched, all the way up until the invasion of Huntress where he was finally shot down mid battle, miraculously surviving.>For his spotless record and unwavering loyalty, Mack is offered the right to salvage a heavy clan mech, but settles on a Venom upgraded with Clantech instead.>How skills in a high speed jumping mech are top notch, but Mack can never again recapture the magic of the raw freedom of flight in a mech, leaving him in a somewhat somber temperament for the rest of his career. Or something like that anyway
>>97441395I would not be surprised if there are LAM's out there that are locked into mech or fighter configuration due to degradation of parts and/or inability to fully repair damage. They would suck if they were in fighter mode but in mech mode I could see the Stinger LAM in particular the A5 being the more popular design, its essentially a ghetto Fire Javelin.
>>97441395Oh man you got me a new campaign with frenz.
>>97441395Sounds like a fun idea for a story
>>97441395>Do or die time>Acidentally activates the transformation sequence like some anime bullshit >Flies away>Doesn;t elaborate.
>>97441664>Accidently activate Fighter mode>SHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT>Lawndart 5 km away after a failed piloting roll
>>97441672>>97441664>alright, all we need is that report from our scout mech and we can begin our assault>why is dave 8 km away from the AO, that's the opposite direction from insertion>SOMEBODY HELP ME I USED THE STINGER'S JUMPJETS AND NOW I CAN'T STOP GOING UP
>>97441395>>97441664>>97441799Reminder that an LAM cockpit basically looks like NTD activating in a Unicorn.
>>97441817All the more reasons on why a LAM would be sitting in mech mode, unused and forgotten about being a mech. And then some kid gets stuck in "that weird Wasp that won't start" and accidentally gets it to work.
>>97441799Assuming Dave survives I want you to imagine the mechtechs after mission.>So we found fold lines>You found what?>On the wings>On the WHAT?!>Also turns out we've been putting armor plates over the over intakes.
>>97441877>also, that big-ass bay we thought was tonnage for SRM2 ammo wasn't actually for the SRM2. That's apparently a bomb bay.>then where does the ammo for the SRM2 go?>there is no ammo for the SRM2.
Imagine trying to restart LAMs in ilclan. You are 100 years past the end of parts manufacture. You can probably find some working examples left. Which means a few operators and techs with knowledge of use and repair. To those two training pipelines can be rebuilt. But where are you going to find engineers who understand how to design them. There is fuck all tooling lying around. Unless the og designs are in a memory core that seems like a hell of a hurdle. No one has SLDF money to throw at a R&D project for such a specialized unit. Especially one that is essentially replaced by already existing equipment if you just double crew, transport bays, and tech support.
>>97441891>Clanners talking mad shit until 5 tons of bombs gets plopped down their heads.
>>97441921I once had an idea that the Raven Alliance might try to revive the idea. Mechs that can deploy out of Naval assets without using dropships does kind of fit their MO. They'd probably have to fight the Clan politics side of things and try to find a way to propose it in a way that doesn't try to replace Aerospace or Mechs.
>>97441921>Unless the og designs are in a memory coreThey were
I love LAMs in concept, but what role they could do other than being just another really fast pulse jumpers? You'd have to remove the inbetween form.
>>97441953Battlemechs you can deploy and extract without needing a dropship to touch down. And the in-between mode is their only thing that makes them capable at the moment.
What if airmechs got partial wing powers instead of all the wige stuff?
>>97441978I still think that WiGEs being able to get lawndarted is the best balance to add.
>>97441953They are tailor made for smash and grabs. All modes stay. Total LAM Victory.
>>97441490It would probably be more valuable as parts than as an operational unit. The dedicated few desperate to keep their LAMs functional would pay shedloads of C-bills for it. Probably enough to buy any other light mech to replace it so you don't have to deal with owning a hangar queen anymore.
>>97441953>remove the inbetween form.Gayest possible take.
>>97441953That's if you want an optimal mech, which is something I don't want the vast majority of me has in general to be. Most LAMs even in ilClan should be clunkers, like a Wasp LAM that's a full on SRM boat, or a composite structure Pixie LAM that can stuff in an MRM30 with a couple ERSLs for backup. That said, I do think LAM internal Bomb Bays should just outright be a design quirk on all LAMs, and if you want more than the default slots then you use mass to add in more. Could have a LAM variant designed as a quick and dirty Arrow IV artillery unit that way, albeit one that doesn't have any real endurance and needs every shot to count.
>>97442003Considering it's a Stinger, it might get left alone. It's a light mech, so it wouldn't be surprising if plenty were left on any world for engineering work or garrison duty. Because of lostech, people wouldn't even know what the fancy parts on a LAM were. They'd just think it's an oversized Stinger.
>>97441987>>97441978I think applying Partial Wings rules to Mech mode by default, but also reducing the multiplier on Airmech jump speed, and making transformations cost a few MP to make transforming mid fight viable, would be the way to go. Airmech mode already has tough PAR checks as it is that Lawndarting just seems unnecessary.
>>97441978>>97441987>>97442007>>97442016Whatever the fix is, I just hope the fucking rules for it are all in one goddamn place.
I like the redesigned Spider art better.
>>97442047Haha. You are funny man. No. You will need TW for Wige, in tops for LAM combat rules, tax ops for how transforming works because we hate you and didn't put it in int ops, tech manual for building, and campaign ops for maintenance rules. If we can think of a worse way to implement rules, we will do it.
>>97442058>Spider>I think the word you're looking for is "Space Ranger."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpgXY-OI1CQ
>>97441978That's how they used to work, back before there even were WiGE rules, when it could be argued they were actually busted they just jumped far, faaaar more than anything else. They got rid of that capability, then eventually brought in iJJ and partial wing and replaced it.
>>97442058I like the 8Xr
>>97442003If it can't transform, then the parts that make it valuable are broken. The engine is a fusion engine and the weapons are just weapons, it's the transformation gear that other LAMs can't easily get elsewhere. And it's broken.
>>97442090All the 8's are Phoenix Spiders like the 8R pic. It's a truth as sad as the retard DA Hatchetman or the retard DA Atlas.
>>97442096Let us not dwell on art retardation we can lament poor art direction all night. Let's instead choose something else to bicker about incessantly. Maybe xin sheng, wolves always winning, those cunts wouldn't let Fronc have Detroit. Or suggest your own if you have a favorite.
>>97442106How about why the Fleet of Blake never bloodvirus-bombed the Bears?
>>97442090Is this custom? It's cool
>>97442111Why did our blessed brothers the glorious martyrs of the Jihad not virus bomb the clan menace from existence. An excellent question brother. I can only guess that their righteous fury at the apostates that tore down the second Star League acted in the moment their zeal making them act before thinking to punish the blasphemers. I would want to know if they had even begun such a blessed task. Gene tailored viral weapons have quite a lead time. I suspect the naval assets would have been up to the task of breaking through most Ghost Bear naval screens to deliver such a weapon. But the weapon has to exist first.
>>97442094>If it can't transform, then the parts that make it valuable are broken.Presumably the transformation gear is a complex, multi-part assembly, and while one part breaking means the gear no longer works, the unbroken parts could be extracted and sold as spares for other machines.
>>97442090I want a Melee LAM, bring back Proto TSM and Proto JJs and toss them on a LAM, then give it a hatchet. Toss the remaining tonnage in armor and a couple lasers.
>>97442177anon that's fucking retarded.Give it a lance instead so you can really utilize that flank speed.
>>97442177I did always think Proto IJJs are kind of better. Sure they build up heat like crazy but at the same weight as normal JJs. IJJs are only really useful for niche designs.
>>97442177>Melee LAM
I now want a quad with arms going ridiculously fast armed with a lance designed to look like a knight or centaur maybe even a Centaur Knight. Damn you Shining Force.
Advanced tech for LAMs when?
>>97442203Never.
>>97442207:(
>>97442138>I suspect the naval assets would have been up to the task of breaking through most Ghost Bear naval screensDoubtful, due to Leviathan Bear fiat.
>>97442090What's this weeb shit supposed to be?
>>974422618XR, field refit of the experimental 8X used by Stone's Coalition in the Jihad.
>you fight well spider-san>but can you handle us?>the panther sisters!
Where were underwater weapon rules again? I remember ballistics being completely worthless, but I forget if you can easily swap your SRMs and LRMs for SRTs and LRTs on everything including Battle Armor. Also the energy weapon ranges underwater.
>>97442426You can swap LRMs and SRMs for their T equivalent since they're the same tonnage and crits, but they're different weapons so it's a refit. MMLs used to be able to load torpedoes, but that would have been too much fun so they took that off the list.
>>97442439Can they bring that back in the playtest pretty please?
>>97442426Energy weapons range is halved iirc
What dual melee mechs are out there that aren't industrial I can't think of any off hand? That panther pic got me thinking.
>>97442439imo they should just make LRT/SRTs an ammo type instead of entirely different weapon sets. Just seems like completely redundant otherwise.
>>97442487That's what multi-purpose missiles are
>>97442476There's the Cudgel which has a claw and a mace. Though iirc a rules change screwed it over hard, because I think claws used to be able to let you keep a firm hold on an enemy mech.
>>97442501Oh good call that's an Solaris mech iirc, not to be ungrateful but anything like a normal production or great house/ clan? I know green bird has talons on a few mechs but I'm wondering dual weapon.
>>97442450Halved rounding up or halved rounding down?
>>97442476A bunch of mechs that augment hands with claws.The only mechs that have two actual physical weapons besides that are two variants of the volkh and one variant of the nyx, all carrying lances.Because you can only make one attack with physical weapons like hatchets or swords in one turn and carrying two of them is just a massive tonnage and crit cost for nothing more than redundancy.
>>97442476I feel like there should be dual retractable blade mechs since you can use the snikt bub rule to augment punches.
>>97442504The main problem is that, except for claws iirc, you can't use two melee weapons in the same round, so there wouldn't be much point. Honestly I don't really see the point in that, but it is what it is.
>>97442476I was going to say those fucked up Trebuchets with the chain whip, but shields and tasers aren't melee weapons. Still one of Kali Yama's best drug addled ideas.
>>97442553With optional rules you can use retractable blades to enhance punches with an extra crit chance, so you can use two for two punches.
>>97442507Round up when I'm shooting at you. Round down when you're shooting at me.
>>97442672It looks like longer ranged weapons lose more range than shorter ranged weapons underwater
How valid would it be to generate a Star via putting random clan mechs into a series of Trials of Position?
>>97442754That seems like the exact kind of proactive retardation that the clans would approve of.
The melee weapon rule should be relaxed, put it in the damn playtest. Dual wielding swords SHOULD be an option and this rule is directly preventing the creation of more mechs (and thus models to sell). Given their propensity for always having rules to gimp fun I will provide this concession: "big" melee weapons only operate at half their normal damage rounded up when declared as the 2nd attack during melee. There will be melee weapons tagged as "small" which can then be used in the off-hand at full effect, small vibroblades will be in high demand for sure. The name Musashi isn't even taken for any vehicle so they have all the pieces in place to make another thematic DCMS model.
>>97442186I guess Battletech does have pile bunkers after all.
>>97442905>another thematic DCMS modeIf you mean an over-gunned, under-sinked, suicide machine with a C3 computer then I'm all for it. If you mean a silly mech-sized samurai cosplay you can see yourself out.
>>97443085Overgunned undersinked honorable suicide charge machine with a C3 slave and TWO SWORDSAlso tsm
Do you use any of the TacOps advanced rules? They seem to make MM more like some other CWGs I've played.
>>97437961Uziel was one of the first mechs I became familiar with as a zoom zoomer. I hope MW6 takes place during the Jihad era so I can pilot one.
>>97443227Dodging nukes and fighting in fallout would be cool
>>97443369>Fighting weird Wobbie tech>Dodging nukes or at least trying to mitigate the damage they do to you>Fighting dozens of Revenants at one time>Having a duel with a Manei Domini in an Archangel who acts like your bitter rival (Maybe even an arc where you fight him as a normal before he gets enhanced)Honestly Jihad has some potentially cool stuff for a video game.
>>97443394Having played with nukes in Classic not only would they be horribly nerfed in a video game but they'd likely just be set dressing
>>97443415If they weren't aimed specifically at you, you'd just be moving as far away as possible for the blast wave to not strip off armor. Say, a nuke is heading for a nearby city and you have maybe minutes to get away, but when the nuke goes off you don't get a cutscene and you have to fight your way to a new extract.
Is Mechwarrior to Battletech what Mechassault is to Alpha Strike?
>>97443435I... guess? Why does that make a weird amount of sense.
>>97443428Even if it's just a setpiece for a single mission that would be raw. Honestly any more than that and it'd feel annoying. Hate to reference CoD but I feel like it should be like MW2 where it's just pure panic, half your electronics stop working and it's just survival as you limp away to extract.Surviving a nuke in BT as a Mechwarrior is probably rare enough already. Surviving MULTIPLE nukes would be a one in a billion occurrence.
>>97443458What about being sent out in a Firestarter S to clear out any Blakist remnants in the city that was nuked
>>97443458If they'd implement nukes in a MW game and even vaguely matched their game rules, the mission would have you be hundreds of miles away from the targeted city (probably something like you're part of a force sent to stop the WoBbies from advancing to the city, and when you repel them they nuke it out of spite), when suddenly the sky in the direction of the city goes blinding white, your sensors and comms short out, and shortly after there's a massive dust storm that uproots trees and threatens to knock your mech on its ass as the blast wave reached you. If you were closer to ground zero you'd get vaporized before even knowing what hit you.
>>97442908A lance is static, a retractable blade would be closer mechanically
>>97441664>>97441672>>97441799>>97441877>>97441891Is Dave part of the Shortbus Sabres?
Since the thread is going slow, anybody been playing the Scouring Aces yet? I got my box but didn't even have the time to read the instruction yet. I'd read it at work but I'm still waiting for the pdf.
>>97445130No desu family has been sick and snow issues so I'm behind isn't this like Alpha strike 2 or what?
>>97445287More like single player mode for Alpha Strike, a Card System determines what your OpFor is going to do.
>>97445325I never understood this, if you want to play single player why not just play both sides? Do you really need cards to tell you how to do it?
>>97445332A "cardboard computer" allows you to play against a set level of opposition rather than having to constantly frustrate your own efforts turn by turn.
>>97445332Most people don't like playing both sides because then you always know what your opponent will do, they have the same tactical tendencies you do, and if you have any biases (like say one side is yourdudes and the other side is faceless opfor) they shine through ultra hard.
>>97445332>>97445342>>97445351Exactly, the Cards give a bit of needed automatic direction to an otherwise random set of behavior.It's not even Princess level of automated, but it does take Control of the OpFor out of your hands.
>>97445332Well, what everyone else said, plus it allows you to play in co-op. You get three of your friends and each plays with his own pilot and mech RPG-style and nobody has to be left out to play the opposition that doesn't evole.
>>97445325Oh neat, thanks Anon.
>>97445506Yeah, we're hoping they port it to Classic, since there shouldn't be much translation issues, but this is Catalyst we're talking about.
Abomination construction rules when
>>97438759Consider it a bulwark against when the SJWs try to claim the setting is sexist and racist to change it, youll love your sexpest black queens then.
>>97437300I agree, because prior to the Jihad lots of planets gave people shit like ears and tails, it was definitely not just Canopus.
>>97445656Oh yeah, honestly the Shadowrun/Battletech Crossover would make a bedrock AU for Continuum for this reason.
>>97433463AROUND DRACS I DO NOT RELAX
>>97445867What you don't want to get interrogated by a cute ISF agent wearing leather?
>>97446082no way man. I've heard what they do with those funny wooden eating sticks and davion urethras
>>97446192Some people enjoy sounding rods, if you want a torture that no man could endure with his sanity intact try a degloving of the penis.
>>97446215>>97446082This anon is a DEST plant, do not believe his lies
I remember reading someone claim that the FWL is, on paper, the largest military in the pre-Clan era not counting FedCom, but they just can't actually bring it all to bare because of how decentralized it is. How true is that statement?
>>97446250I choose to believe this because this would be funny.
>>97446250Kinda. The FWG and a few other units are the only Federal troops, and the state units like the Regulan Hussars need the approval of their state to deploy.You can look at the OG Housebooks for pure numbers, but IIRC the Davions by themselves are the largest military in 3025 followed by the Dracs.
>>97446236Don't you want to experience what happened to the captured Davion Femboys after their defeat by a bunch of Combine Rejects?>>97446250Really depends on the era. Like post 3028? I can see them on paper being the largest Great House military behind the FedCom especially after the Dracs lose a chunk of their territory when the FRR forms. Combine still has more mech regiments than them but FWL has got a few RCT's and cause they never really count IS vehicle on infantry regiments its really hard to judge true strength. Like pre Clan invasion the FRR has over 200 regiments at their disposal however only 21 are mech with 5 of them being mercs. 20 year update has a decent breakdown if you want to guess sizes.
You'd think that a thousand years into the future, intelligence agencies would be aware that torture is not a very good way to get information.
>>97446497But it is fun.
I can't imagine running a lance without at least 1-2 Strikers in it. They're so fun.
>>97446250The true military strength of any great house is a mystery because they almost never count non-mech forces unless they're stapled to a mech force or being crushed by one. All the random infantry brigades and tank regiments hanging around without mechs don't even get counted, nevermind named.The FWL takes it a step further and doesn't even list all of the provincial forces, with or without mechs. Oliver is run by a military junta and part of a defensive alliance with a number of other planets. The name or composition of any of their militaries is not detailed anywhere, even in the writeups of those planets.
>>97446534Didn't Luthien have hundreds of militia regiments defending it alone but only like 20 of them got to see battle when the Jags landed?
>>97446526The mech or the role?
>>97446613Role.
>>97446613>mech or the role*sad combat vehicle noises*
>>97446621Ah got ya, I'm big fan of them and Cav.>>97446626lol sorry wheeled guy.
>>97446626Let's be honest, people use that way more than the mech.
Since discussing roles, why are designs like the CN9-A Centurion, RFL-3C Rifleman and WHM-6R Warhammer considered "brawlers" when that might be some of the most suicidal use of the designs imaginable?
