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Welp, my FLG is going down in flames for the most insane reason I wouldn't even think possible
>apparently people now just play with base-sized cardboard cut-outs with names of units written on them
>there were days when you would walk in and most of the tables would be hogged by poorfags and their cardboard
>the owner is too much of a nice guy and he barely makes a profit on the store anyway so he was just happy to have people playing in there
>it all escalated during AoS tournament when fully half of the players did not own a single mini
>argument broke down between a player with fully painted army and cardboard poorfag
>it boiled down to shit flinging and name calling and the tournament had to be called off
>the owner had no other option but to ban the cardboardfags, or else he would start losing customers who actually buy stuff
>some of the cardboardfags are unironic Communists and started a smear campaign, calling him a ''classist''
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GW has priced themself out of the market
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>>97443818
>Sand down every aspect of Warhammer from fluff to gameplay to try and court the fabled modern audience
>It never comes because the most basic troop kit now costs as much as a AAA video game, maybe more
How hard is it to just open a factory in NA?
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>>97443818
This is fake and gay but it did make me chuckle a little bit.
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here's the second bait thread of the day.
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Then everyone stood up and clapped.
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>>97443818
Warhammer (Game) and Warhammer (Hobby) are separate interests. The sooner people get that into their heads, the better.
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>>97443818
>apparently people now just play with base-sized cardboard cut-outs with names of units written on them
Based if true
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>>97443818
were they at least the fanciful type of cardboard cutouts?

because I could understand that if it was used as a quick and cheap way to kickstart a gaming group by having multiple such armies for tests games on a dedicated corner of the club.
easy to make, easy to store, and still better than grey plastic at the end of the day.
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>>97444039
You know damn well the kind of person that would show up to a tournament without any models would not put in the kind of effort to make a paper proxy look good.
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>>97443826
While this anon is correct, if you are literally to broke to even 3D print your shit you are not in any financial situation to be having hobbies.
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>>97444039
From how it sounds I wouldn't be surprised if its just cardboard bases. If someone had a "papercraft" (Minimum amount of effort) Warhammer army I wouldn't mind.
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>>97443818
I don't believe you.
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>>97443818
This sounds fake as fuck
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>>97444087
This
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>>97443818
This is real and I believe it
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>>97443818
There's no way Warhammer drones would tolerate such a blatant disregard for the profits of the company they built what passes for their personality around for that long.
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>>97444004
Yeah and the game (40k) fucking sucks
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>>97444243
This picture just doesn't hit as hard without the original poor English.
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>>97443860
>open a factory in NA?
No and go fuck yourself. Move to Nottingham if you want cheaper figs.
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>>97444424
you’re both faggots this is a billion dollar company and the product is pure overhead. “muh tariffs” is not an excuse for the kits being as high as they are. jew workshop as usual are just greedy fucks
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>>97444032
Shit. That's basically how it goes in Battletech.
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>>97444093
>no money for minis
>no money for 3d printed knock-offs
>no money to buy someone's poorly painted army off ebay
>somehow still have time to fully learn the game, create cardboard proxy for an entire army, and play for multiple hours multiple days a week
Either OP is full of shit or these people have some serious life priority issues
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>>97444756
>no money
>somehow still a shitload of time on their hands
These are called NEETs, Anon. Surprised you've never run into one before, since you're here.
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>>97443826
This
>prices have more than doubled in the last 10 years
>GW dropped all support for any point format other than 2,000
>turn combat patrol and kill team into shitty "buy this specific box to play" side games
>need more terrain than ever or else your entire army dies turn 1
>not even cool DiY terrain, it is very specific looming L shaped ruins that are ass to make, store and transport
>they change the rules every few months and support competitive/tournament rulesets more than anything else
>this leads to everyone needing to rebuy their army multiple times a year
40k is in an awful state
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>>97444662
That's how it went in battletech. They've shifted over to HIGH QUALITY PLASTIC PLS UNDERSTAND for a while now. Go look at /btg/.
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>>97444891
>they have their entire being warped by their ideology
>anyway, here's why purchasing warhammer models will save the white race
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>>97445146
who are you quoting?
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>>97443818
My local store died but my story is real:
>Take my orders but dont order anything
>Didn't realise I was trying to order the same model 3 times in a row
>Never orders paints, shipment is always coming next week
>It never does
>Try to rent their big play area for our club
>They didn't allow us to use our own ruleset in our private tournament for unknown reasons

I'm glad they closed their store, morons.
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>>97444039
Back in 5th edition during an event I fuck up and sent the wrong list.
The one with multiple drop pods instead of my regular meme double landraider crusader one.
As a result I had to rush and make some cardboard drop pods the night before because my younger self mixed up the list.
Today? Not even the terrain are painted and just like anon said >>97444087 modern proxyfags have no intention of actually putting any effort in their proxy.
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>>97444662
That's because Battletech is a hex and chit game wearing a miniature wargame hat. Even CGL sold a big box of standees in the clan invasion kickstarter. Apparently it didn't do well enough to repeat for the mercenaries one though.
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>>97445457
No, I mean the Clan Invasion Reinforcements box. It's a full sized box that's top to bottom just punchboard standees. Weighs a ton, was a direct reference to the old FASA Reinforcements boxes. They didn't make a Mercenaries Reinforcements box.
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>>97445681
So was Clan Invasion, the basic format of both kickstarters was exactly the same with a big box that has rules and minis and a bunch of packs with more minis. I wish they had done a Mercenaries Reinforcements box, I could make use of it. But the CI one just didn't move enough to be worth repeating.
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>>97445339
You fags minishame constantly in the general now. Its become the banshe bottom anon show for a while.
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>>97445765
That was years ago and it still keeps posting.
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>>97444891
While I'm a lefty, I think sigmarxism is the stupidest place ever. I got banned for questioning if the model designer for the Mordheim Possessed warband was a neo nazi. They were saying that the pointy hoods made them the kkk. It was unreal. Fucking morons.
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>>97444756
>no money for minis
If it's killteam or some other small sized game then they should have the money but for a full sized wargame? What's the current startup cost for a typical 40k army now, like 1,500? It's a big ask to play 1 game with 1 faction
>no money for 3d printed knock offs
if there was just some site to get them for $5 a pop it would be reasonable, but you have to either find some guy on facebook marketplace who's renting his printer who'll you'l have to find and give the files to and wait god knows how long for him to print them. Or you could order from a russian recaster which while it will be a sizeable discount, is still going to make you wait months for minis they don't already have ready and you'll be paying for shipping on top of that. Or you could get your own printer, a basic FDM cheapo won't cut it, you'll need a $700+ range printer, probably resin, you'll need the files and have to learn how to use the thing which is almost another hobby entirely.
>No money for somone's army on ebay
Ah yes, just buy someone's neon green army of partially converted models with missing pieces/units, """well painted"""", for somewhere between %10 discount to above MSRP depending on how deluded the painter is.
>still have time to learn the game, make cardboard proxies and play
yeah? This takes basically no time? You could learn a war game in an afternoon or two, cardboard proxies would take less than an hour. The story is still fake as fuck, no one would waste time doing this when you can just play on TTS from your home.
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>>97443818
Wow
I mean, I have played with carboard placeholders in the past as well, back when I was a poorfag or wanted to test something I didn't have enough minis for. But I'd never actually go to a tournament like that, even a local one. Do those people really have no other place they could play with that?
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>>97445834
>What's the current startup cost for a typical 40k army now, like 1,500? It's a big ask to play 1 game with 1 faction
If you know where to look for and rely on cheaper discount boxes you can make a decent army for under a grand
>Space Marine half of the current Starter Set ($100 for Terminator Captain, Terminator Librarian, 5 Terminators & 5 Infernus)
>Salamanders Combat Patrol ($170 for Adrax Agatone, 10 Infernus, 3 Eradicators, 5 Assault Intercessors, and an ATV)
>$50 for the Target Dawn of War boardgame (3 Bladeguard, 3 Eradicators, and 3 characters)
>$40 for Vulkan He'Stan
>$50 for 3 more Bladeguard Vets
>$100 for a Land Raider Redeemer
>$80 for an Repulsor (Dual build it as an Impulsor)

That's close to 2k points for around $600 USD. Yeah it's more of an extreme example, but it's definitely not near $1500.
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>>97445814
Aff.
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>>97445834
If you're not meta chasing, its perfectly reasonable to jump in at about $500 and thats just for official minis. I know, I did it to get space marines. Obviously certain armies are way more expensive, but NOS half boxes of marines (and whatever they are fighting) tend to be pretty cheap. if you're really curious, poorhammer does $500 challenges, and have made several armies work at that budget.
3D printing is valid, but if you're in a community, someone always has one. Its a fun hobby but you're right as an expensive one. If its not a local person I know, i wouldnt bother paying them for it.
Yeah man, neon green army is fine as long as its cheap. its a hobby. stripping them is annoying but as long as you get a deep discount it doesn't matter its missing stuff. pick up what you can to fill out. I'd rather have a proxy mini then a piece of card board. 100% agree, well painted is always a fucking joke.
Learning to play with your boys, or practicing/trying out armies in your basement is fine. sure as shit not fine during a tournament. desu, i dont think greytide should be allowed at a tourney. the hobby side of the hobby shouldn't be cut out.
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>>97445157
(you)
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>>97445121
>>prices have more than doubled in the last 10 years

Prosecutor squad
Dec 2015 £35
Jan 2026 £38
+8.6%

Celestant-Prime
Dec 2015 £48
Jan 2026 £58
+16.7%

Slaughterpriest
Dec 2015 £18
Jan 2026 £23
+27.8%

GW price gouges but doubling is an exaggeration based on those figures. How about you provide values showing this alleged doubling instead of whinging about doubling as if it's real? At the same time do note the rate of inflation over the same period although that would really hurt your narrative. Cumulative inflation in UK from Dec 2015 to Jan 2016 is about +40%

>inb4 paypiggy
I haven't bought a GW model since early 4th edition and it was OOP bitz.
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My LGS is in a small mall near a university. Every other store in the mall has been closing down, and about half of them have been bought out by the university for administrative space that never seems to be used. Now to get to the store you have to walk past the three open stores at the entrance, and then a wall of empty and dark storefronts to the solitary glowing storefront in the very back corner of the mall. I fear for it somewhat, but there's enough student types financially speculating on cards or getting into 40k that I assume they get decent profit margins.
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>>97443818
>cost of living through the roof
>be Games Workshop, purveyor of luxury goods
>increase prices ad infinitum on said luxury goods
>no one buying luxury goods
Colour me shocked.
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>>97446676
NTA but all that really falls short when you account the increase in market and absurd profits + by the book greedy practices.
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>>97443818
>>some of the cardboardfags are unironic Communists and started a smear campaign, calling him a ''classist''
He sounds based, where you at, I want to give him my business. Normally I'd say this is 100% a made up story with the intent of political shitflinging but I've seen enough of these cases of commies trying to "collectivize" marxist book shops or whatever to know that truth can be stranger than fiction. And it's funny so I choose to believe it.
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>>97445121
You base your opinions entirely on memes you see here and not on reality.
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>>97443818
OP may be a liar but he’s an entertaining one and is provoking an interesting debate. 9.5/10 this is some high quality old school trolling.
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>>97447742
Which part of that post do you take issue with?
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>>97445121
Don’t forget
>4th edition 1500pt (standard) army: 2-3 characters, 20-40 marines, 1-2 vehicles
>10th edition 2000pt (standard) army: 4-6 characters, 40-70 marines, 3-5 vehicles
>and the game is shallower, more complex, and relies on broken combos and constant rebalancing
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>>97445121
This is why I play 3.5 with my group.
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>>97446676
meanwhile in the actual cash cow section, space marine kits have half the models they used to and are still full price.
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>>97444756
>these people have some serious life priority issues
OP did say that they were commies, anon. They tend to be very low functioning people. Here's one of them now. Let's take a look at him.
>>97445834
It's $159 dollars for a fucking Mars 4 anon. Even your unemployed ass can afford that. Can't find .stl's? Go to Cults and plug "40k" into the fucking search bar. The people putting them up there don't even get creative with the names anymore.

Seriously, the bar for entry is the lowest that it's ever been. How do you people survive from day to day?
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>>97448568
Also needed
Power and filament
Both cost money

And "having money" doesnt mean "able to waste it on toys".
Sorry, war sim life models.

Though I agree, not everyone should be able to do every hobby
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>>97448725
>printing minis
>mars 4
>filament
You're trolling or retarded, I'm not sure which. Either way, we're done here. I'm not sorry that your life sucks but I hope that you some day work at improving it.
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>>97445834
Shit dude I bought a Saturn 4 ultra 16k during cyber Monday last year. Cost me $700 including a bunch of other shit I needed and I’ve ready printed $3000 worth of bootleg GW shit.

Basically if you can afford to buy Warhammer, you can even more easily afford to not buy Warhammer. The only reason to buy GW is if you’re a tournament or in-store player. Club and garagehammer players don’t give a fuck.
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>>97445806
I used to have a commie phase in my life and it just made me an autistic laughing stock.
It was during my teenage years. I can only imagine these sigmarxists never grew out of it.
And weirdly enough their love of miniatures and an ip by a big company contradicts their whole thing.
But I’m sure they’ll bend themselves into pretzels trying to explain things out. I doubt Marx would approve of them and if the revolution does happen they’ll be forced to work in jobs they hate instead of being warhammer war gamers in their socialist paradise.

But all in all I hope sigmarxism lives forever as they do a good job making their side look terrible by just being themselves like how r/atheism did a good job making atheism look terrible. And it’s a great containment for warhammer autists of their kind.
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>>97448918
Different anon
I guess I should feel lucky for having an lgs tolerant of my third party proxies.
Or maybe I’m tolerated because I bought my paints from the shop.
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>>97443818
>some of the cardboardfags are unironic Communists and started a smear campaign, calling him a ''classist''
Insanely based by the vanguardists. I like my minis but fuck corpofag rightoids. I bet you retards only want us to buy from the official Warhammer: Age of Sigmar© "aelves™" or "duardin™"?

But, getting into AoS is a recipe for disaster anyways.

>>97445806
Reddit in general is on a whole other level of retardation, comrade. From the hobby subs, to the conservative subs, to the red subs.
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>>97448939
>like how r/atheism did a good job making atheism look terrible
American hands typed this. American hands absolutely have to have typed this.
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>>97448961
You’re technically wrong and correct at both as I’m a Canadian but then again Canadians are so alike Americans so you might be right.
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Tbf my local store closed because everyone went to 3D printing in my small town. When you can get a full 2000 point army for literally the same price as a 10 man unit from GW, I kinda understand it. I'll probably make he switch once 3D catches up to store bought quality in a few years
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>>97449019
Maybe your LGS should have diversified in stock and service
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>>97449019
Not surprising at all. You can get a 3D printer around the same price as one of GW's 500pt boxes now, and something like OPR's Grimdark Future is a negligible cost for a 40k-like with better rules and better sculpted models (albeit 3D printing simply isn't up to the material advance of injection plastic).
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>>97449174
What printer and printed examples and painted examples please?
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>>97448022
>game is shallower, more complex
>shallower
>more complex
?????
?
???
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>>97449385
As wide as a river and as deep as a puddle
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>>97449012
>a red leaf
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>>97444424
>He thinks Warhammer is cheaper in Nottingham
Lmao.
Lmfao.
You'd hope.
But no.
- t. midlandsfag
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>>97449441
It is if you interact with the factory the correct way
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>>97443860
>it never comes
It started coming like five years ago, and has come even harder every year since, as you can plainly see in their revenue disclosures. Cope as you will.
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>>97449481
I yearn for the day the CAD files of all of GW’s sculpts get leaked somehow.
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>>97445136
Complaining about amazing plastic models, what a fucking look. The most retarded bucketcrab ever, "NOOOO you can't have high quality plastics because i prefer my cereal box tokens"
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>>97449497
>"NOOOO you can't have high quality plastics because i prefer my cereal box tokens"
The complaint was compared to the old metal, and you know that
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>>97449385
Had you ever played those games with massive skill trees, but each point just gives crap like
>0.1% attack speed when hitting enemies on a Monday
>+0.5 damage against blue enemies after each critical strikes made after running
The game is complex, but is just not deep. Since there is an optimal build in the mess of skills
Usually people end copying a build because figuring out things by people that have a life outside the game is not realistically possible
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>>97449528
There isn't a hint of reference to metal models in that exchange. He complains about the transition from cardboard chits to high quality plastics.
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>>97447731
I'm willing to believe it too, especially if he lives in a college town; I'd seen similar behaviors when I was in college. We had more than one autistic retard get in trouble with our LGS and they'd go on Facebook and say the dumbest shit.
I always felt bad for the store owner who, on the best of days, would have to deal with at least a couple stinky social pariahs.
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>>97449441
Quiet, you! The idea is he won't realize until it's too late and he must now live in Nottingham for his sins.
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>>97449735
>Had you ever played those games
I haven't, they intuitively seem like shit. But that actually makes sense now, thank you.
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>>97444004
This. And also...

>>97444340
...This.

Building and painting is the real hobby™. Playing OPR games with #yourDudes is cool, too. Buying a gazillion codices that get invalidated every couple years, just to "play" the Blizzard-balanced, gotchaslopfest is pure cringe.
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>>97449385
Anon is correct. Compare and contrast chess and go. Chess has more rules (is more complex) but has been computationally broken 30 years ago. Go has fewer rules (less complex) but was only broken 5(?) years ago with AI (meaning we don't even get to see the computer's thought process).
Taking into account Moore's law it took computers that were ~4000 times better to break the "simpler" game.
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>>97445121
When I first got involved in 40k, the old Cadian Shock Troops plastics had just been released. They were AU$50 for a box of 20. As the years went on, they increased to $60, then $65. If I remember correctly they reached just shy of $70 before dropping back down to $35... but they were also cut down to 10 per box.
Then I watched the price begin to rise again. $40. $45. $50. $60. I left around about $65 if I remember correctly. I don't remember what the new Cadian's where when I came back last year, but they're currently AU$90 for a box of 10.

>>97444891
>>97445806
>Sigmarxism

Is that the shithole who think the GSC are "Pro-Workers Rights/Unions" and Ogyrn are about abolishment of class or some retarded horseshit?
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>>97449495
>I yearn for the day the CAD files of all of GW’s sculpts get leaked somehow.

Hypothetical question...
Let's say I was to win $100M+ in the lotto. Let's say I then bought a bunch of injection moulding machines and hired an expert moulder... or whatever the proper term is, to make moulds and run the machines for me. And let's say I wanted to make moulds of old Warhammer kits. Professional injection moulded plastic recasts if you will.
Would that be as simple as hiring someone who knows what they're doing, giving them access to the right tools and giving them some old pristine spurs? Or would that not work?

You know, hypothetically
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>>97450334
>Is that the shithole who think the GSC are "Pro-Workers Rights/Unions"
>Literally falling for Tyranid propaganda while having meta knowledge about the universe
Jesus Christ, that's a whole new level of stupid
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>>97449174
>(albeit 3D printing simply isn't up to the material advance of injection plastic)
Since when does James use advanced injection molding technology?

>>97450359
>Would that be as simple as hiring someone who knows what they're doing, giving them access to the right tools and giving them some old pristine spurs? Or would that not work?
Yes and no from what I understand.
Could you theoretically reproduce the sprues?
Yes, but you might get hit with copyright law; Chinese and Russia recasters get away with this only because Bandai is crazy enough to go in and bust up their operations.
The big issue is creating the molds, which is where most of the expense is, which you only start making back after 100 thousand units or so.
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>>97445834
>Or you could get your own printer, a basic FDM cheapo won't cut it, you'll need a $700+ range printer, probably resin, you'll need the files and have to learn how to use the thing which is almost another hobby entirely.
I bought a resin printer and everything I needed for it, including safety supplies, IPA, silicone mats, additional resin, a second build plate, and more for less than 500 dollars and had it figured out in a weekend.

You GW paypigs are retarded and bad with money.
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>>97446676
source for the uk inflation? 40% over 10 years seems catastrophic

>>97445806
>retard gets banned from a subreddit because they got involved in arguments
waow

This new captcha system is aids by the way, fuck this deep learning world
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>>97443818
I have my doubts about OP story, but the reality in that Warhammer 40K plastic figures are overpriced currently, at some point you can buy a 3D printer and PC components with that money in spent in armies.
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>>97443818
Good, fuck GW and fuck the store owner for having faggot GW stuff for sale.
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>>97450706
>>retard gets banned from a subreddit because they got involved in arguments
da comrade, don't question anything
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>>97449185

Everything in this photo (except the black 20mm base the dwarf is on) was 3d printed by an elegoo mars 3 pro resin 3d printer. It was cheaper than a batallion box or battle force box of whatever GW calls them these days (~$150 like 3 years ago)

3d printers are basically plug and play anymore, and can do equal to and better than any kind traditional casting in plastic/resin/pewter.
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>>97450784
I need to paint my Full Scale Dominance stuff
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>>97445806
>They were saying that the pointy hoods made them the kkk.
shows how America-centric most of the internet is
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>>97450784
Lazy Forger makes some fine terrain, DAMN fine terrain
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I like the full scale dominance vehicles and terrain. It's good stuff, and prints amazingly without fussing around. For the anon asking about 3d printers, behold, more shit I've 3d printed, unprimed. The walls on the left are FDM printed from a friend of mine. The antennae on the mech would be very difficult without pins/laser cut brass, the same for things like the walkways and railings.

3d printing isn't that expensive and isn't that hard. If you can't afford a resin 3d printer, you are in the wrong hobby.
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>>97450589
>Yes, but you might get hit with copyright law
>you only start making back after 100 thousand units or so.

Oh this hypothetical isn't about recasting for sale/profit. This is all about personal use, hence why the hypothetical starts >say I was to win $100M+ in the lotto.
This is just pure fantasy. Some thought to indulge in when I'm bored at work and want to drift off into day dreams of "if I were rich beyond the dreams of avarice."

But carrying on from this and indulging said fantasies further. Would it be possible to make upsized versions of old sprues? Like could I get this hypothetical mould maker/worker to make me true scale Marines using old tactical marine kits? Could I have him make a version of the standard rhino sprue that's been upsized so that it actually looks big enough to fit 10 true scale marines? Could I get him to make me downsized versions of the HH Primarchs so that they're only slightly bigger then the true scale marines he's made me?
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>>97443860
Dude, they're hideously expensive in the UK too. Play a different game.
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>>97450851
>Would it be possible to make upsized versions of old sprues?
It's a possibility, big issue there is your already huge cost start exploding as your Mold Maker will want to use fancy tech to take scans and make accurate Dies for the upsized Molds.
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>>97450851
Dude, all this can already be done with 3D scanning and 3D printing.
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>>97450838

And, have some more stuff printed on the same printer (minus the assault intercessor and the base on the knockoff marine). Don't mind the derpy pose on the printed marine, that was purely a test run for scaling where I didn't bother to go find the matching bits/weapons/etc.

All of the stuff I've posted used a marginal amount of electricity and maybe $3 of resin total. Other major costs you do have to keep in mind for resin 3d printing are gloves (which any hobbyist should have for stuff like priming anyway) and 91% isopropyl alcohol (which can be like 95% recycled for future use). And I guess other normal shit to have around your living space like paper towels and whatnot for cleaning up. It's neither hard nor expensive to make the resin 3d printer go brrrrrrrrrr.
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>>97450706
>source for the uk inflation?
The Bank of England.
>40% over 10 years seems catastrophic
Hmm, I wonder if something catastrophic happened between 2015 and 2025 that fucked the world economy sideways. Anything spring to mind?
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>>97450334
>Is that the shithole who think the GSC are "Pro-Workers Rights/Unions" and Ogyrn are about abolishment of class or some retarded horseshit?
Sigmarxists literally believe any retarded intersection of leftism and 40k you can conceivably imagine, and then a chunk that are too stupid for a psychologically normal (okay, """normal""", we're fa/tg/uys after all) person to conceive of.
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>>97446676
NTA but those are very niche examples. Not all their products are doubled but I remember start collecting boxes being 75€ because I got a skaven one to use the models for fantasy. Equivalent boxes tend to have less models and cost almost double

Still trying to wrap my head around the fact that they keep growing. I picture myself being 15 and asking my parents to spend 50-60€ in 5 plastic figures and they'd kick the shit out of me. Weed and alcohol are unironically cheaper than warhammer, which wasn't the case back in the day and possibly what saved me from becoming a schizo homeless, seeing how the rest of my friends have turned out
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>>97444093
>if you are literally to broke to even 3D print your shit you are not in any financial situation to be having hobbies.
OD&D was played with a piece of paper as a map and coins as miniatures...
Still, I do understand what you're getting to.
>>97444756
When I was a penniless kid, this is how me and my friend played Warhammer Fantasy.
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>>97444093
kids have hobbies too anon games aren’t just for manchildren
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>>97446676
Guardsmen came in kits of 20 models and costed like 30.
Now they come in kits of 10 and cost like 60.
Even if they some how stayed at 30 for 10 models, it still double in price.
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>>97443826
>>97445121
Not from the US, just using dollars.
A squad of IG guardsmen used to cost me ~$25 back in 2003.
Adjusted for inflation in my country that should be ~$43 today.
I just checked the current prices, and a squad would set me back $52.

I was even considering getting back into just modeling and painting, but it would see I'd be better off looking into 3D printing my shit.
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>>97443818
Half the reason I play is to look at other peoples paintjobs and discuss them since thats my favourite part of the hobby. I have no problem playing with people proxying with 3d prints or different models as long as they make sense, but Id never play with a fucking retard that uses pieces of paper unless its a friend trying to understand if he likes the game before committing.
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>>97450784
>>97450838
>>97451016
Did you use stls that are scans of the original models? What did the stls look like?
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>>97451916

Most of that is either original cretions or adapted from video game 3d models. an STL when viewed using slicer software looks like what gets printed.

If you want to find STLs, you can go to sites like myminifactory and cults to get them. Sometimes they are free, sometimes they are paid, and you can find quite a lot of stuff if you travel the high seas. There's tons of 3d models out there, and you can surely find ones that match your taste.
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>>97443826
It would take 2 seconds to verify how wrong you are. GW raises prices each year and each year they make more money
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>>97449019
>I'll probably make he switch once 3D catches up to store bought quality in a few years
3d printers are already capable of higher than GW quality and have been for years now.
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>>97451016
>It's neither hard nor expensive to make the resin 3d printer go brrrrrrrrrr.
If you don't mind me asking, isn't the issue with resin printing that you basically can't do it indoors and need a super ventilated space? That's a main reason that's kept me away from it.
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>>97445806
>nazis
>kkk
Americans look at these and think they're the same...
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>>97444243
Your cardboard disc army is lame and soulless.
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>>97444424
>The Brit is afraid of his island becoming even more irrelevant.
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>>97453879
Yes, to do a proper safe setup for 3d printing require basically building a fume hood for the printer.95% of people printing don’t do this and are slowly poisoning themselves.
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>>97453924
americans simple don't know history outside of American films and television
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>>97454017
any time they get offended at "Blackface" in other countries
Even Black Peter is offensive to them
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>>97453924
They kinda are in a way. Ultimately they're both leftists with contemporary views taken to an extreme.
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>>97454017
But even in their beloved bergsteinwitz' movies, nazis and the kkk aren't even portrayed the same other than being antagonists.
>>97454084
>american moment
case in point
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>>97454159
>case in point
Nope.
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>>97454214
Yes, cope.
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>>97445146
kek
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>>97451916
if you are worried about how blurry some scans look, if you have money, you could pay someone that can use 3d software and fix/repair there is a name for but i can remember to "resmaster" it, hell i am sure a lot of the good sculpers might use scans as base
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>>97454017
truth nuke



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