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>>97387443

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,
Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Goblin King Games, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
How important is 'war' in the wargames for you? Do you differentiate wargames and miniature games?
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>>97423640
Yes. The mock-up looks so cheap with a 3D mini-figure.
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Already a thread up >>97443086
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>>97447010
That thread forgot to indicate it was /awg/ in its title tho
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>>97446914
The very existence of HeroClix remains a mystery to me.
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>>97450333
I agree. I didnt thought thats an /awg/ one.
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>>97447010
That thread is a failure because the retard didn't even title it.
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Do you guys know any models similar to this one? Like orky, but robots. Puppetswar used to have more, but I think they retired most of them.
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>No core rules update for 2 months now
Should I assume OPR finally calmed their tits and the game is playable now?
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>>97451978
Not unless they undid every change 3.5 made. Otherwise consider the game still shot in the leg.
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>>97452120
What happened with v3.5 changes? What did they do? I fell off the wagon after abandoning their patreon
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>>97453341
The Robot, Undead and Demon keywords/rules were nuked to a point it ruined 3-4 armies each in Grimdark Future and Age of Fantasy. A bunch of stuff was changed for no apparent reason as well. Weapon rules were further dumbed down and inconsistently at that. Apparently the official Discord is a bunch of tourneyfag/powergamerfags and Narrative only types who were both demanding the rules be changed because things were "too broken" or "too complicated". At this point I just use pre-3.5 rules, but the 3.5 damage was done sadly to my group and we are not playing 4-5 games a week. Hell, we have barely played after the first two weeks of 3.5 Absolute trainwreck and I suspect OPR will start quietly getting ride of the miniature agnostic aspect and double down on their "official" STL files and the new Resin and Plastic versions sold on the store. The entire thing is disgusting and depressing to watch fall apart in real time.
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>>97454051
>Weapon rules were further dumbed down and inconsistently at that
Dumbed down inconsistently how? They are like single sentence. I've just checked their app and I don't really remember the old versions, but not a lot of things stood out. Battle Brothers have gotten a different faction rule from what I can see
>I suspect OPR will start quietly getting ride of the miniature agnostic aspect and double down on their "official" STL files
I've noticed that they have started embedding their own faction logos into the minis, even the infantry, that kind of fits into this kind of plan. And from the looks of it, they are gonna rerelease demon armies, I wonder if they will also get logo embeds
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>>97454260
>Dumbed down inconsistently how? They are like single sentence. I've just checked their app and I don't really remember the old versions, but not a lot of things stood out. Battle Brothers have gotten a different faction rule from what I can see
Autocannons use to be a straight statline between all armies. Now some have the Fracture rule and different stats while others do not. Some armies even have both types with the same name. HDF does on some vehicles last I checked.

>I've noticed that they have started embedding their own faction logos into the minis, even the infantry, that kind of fits into this kind of plan. And from the looks of it, they are gonna rerelease demon armies, I wonder if they will also get logo embeds
Some of the OPR Rangers said that the OPR team wants to 40k-ize the game and make it into a "more profitable and unique" IP. Considering they are pushing their own fluff/logos/lore and removing old units from army lists if it does not match their prints, it feels like an accurate assumption.
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>>97454260
Sorry, I lost part of my line when I quoted the second part of the message. It is not just autocannons that have that problem. In general it feels like a lot of weapons were given vague changes just for the sake of "newness". Weapon profiles with the same name no longer even being the same in the same army, let alone between them. I honestly have no idea what was going through their heads, but it killed the local OPR scene and there are a lot of people who went to old version of WHFB/40k/AoS/Necromunda with how bad the rule changes and the sensation of things progressively becoming less fun and worth playing continues to build. We had a narrative event - not a tournament, but 40 players playing on a number of extra large boards with a campaign system and defeats/victories being part of an overall boons and penalties system. It was a massive success with over 40 players applying but only that many getting in due to lack of space for more boards. We tried to do a second event after 3.5 launched and did not get even a full ten players.
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>>97454298
>Autocannons use to be a straight statline between all armies. Now some have the Fracture rule and different stats while others do not
Looks like "HE Autocannon" have Fracture, while Autocannon does not. It's kind of the same difference as between Heavy Rifle and a Rifle, one has AP1 Rule, other does not, I don't get why is that a problem
HDF has only HE Autocannons, all with Fracture, so that was perhaps patched
>OPR Rangers said that the OPR team wants to 40k-ize the game
How? It's already basically 40k but stripped of phases and streamlined around the concepts of 'everything is a special rule' and 'everything happens during an activation' to a fault

What worries me more is that despite DriveThruRPG requirement to say if they use AI
https://help.drivethrupartners.com/hc/en-us/articles/12780748778135-Product-Standards-Guidelines#h_01HAAB7N0J6EVBZWCCP713JYDM
They fill that field only for SOME of their products, and inconsistently at that.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/browse?author="Gaetano%20Ferrara"&page=1&sortBy=newest

Two newest mission books have "Human-Created Without AI" set, two paper minis bundles released directly before them have "Creation Method Not Chosen By Publisher", despite DTRPG clear policy requiring a yes or no.
Then:
The Rusted Crown - Age of Fantasy Quest Narrative Campaign
Eternal Dynasty - Faction Book
Heart of the Rot - Age of Fantasy Quest Narrative Campaign
"Human-Created Without AI"
But:
Into the Frontier - Grimdark Future Star Quest Narrative Campaign
The Last Tear - Age of Fantasy: Skirmish Narrative Campaign
"Creation Method Not Chosen By Publisher"

It is mighty suspicious that they are so selective with that
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>wargames?
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>>97454839
I sometimes wonder how examples like those in your pic go about their day to day lives with their boogeyman beyond rent free in their heads.
You can’t convince them to see that they’re obsessed.
You just can’t.

But the good news is that they’re often open about their condition so you can learn quickly to avoid them at the local game store.
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>>97454839
>bluesky profile
>dedicated 'gay stuff' section on the website
>minis look really bad quality but are virtue signaled and use the names of famous women (one can wonder about permissions, IP rights and the like)
>UK based
gee, who would have thought
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Stop posting in this thread, we already have a general up >>97443086
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>>97455133
Yeah let that dumb shit die. Retard fucked up the OP, the thread is useless
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>>97454839
Oy vey, always remember the 6 gorillion jews who died preserving trannies goyim
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>"/awg/" thread
>look inside
>OPR kvetching and people who have done nothing in their lives trying to shit on Annie

Embarrassing lads.
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>>97450912
Since noone talks about them that much, me too. To be profitable they need a big consumer base. But they cant be that big or otherwise you would see more talk everwhere.
Maybe they really have a big kids fan base or hardcore fans that dont talk about it online or really just on special forums.
I would expect that it would always spill over to other forums.
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>>97454839
Bad Squiddo Games is such sad company
Years back it was the only way to get some female models to south america like the statuesque heads or the old dream forge ASStastic storm troopers.
But now they seem to only stock overpriced low quality models and the historical focus on this some weird alternative universe where women were front and center of conflicts.
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>>97456479
Who the fuck is Annie lmfao, some tranny we are supposed to know about ?



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