Elesh editionPrevious: >>97442733>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQfav 2 color commander?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
What are all the artifact tokens with activated abilities?So far I've got:>treasure>junk>clue>food>blood>map>mutagenAm I missing any?
Strixhaven leaks, at this time of year?
>>97451158Lander, Gold
>>97451158you forgot the most important token of them all.
>>97451158powerstonemeteoritestone
>keeping my playgroup's limited pools from Commander Masters, Time Spiral Remastered, Kamigawa Neon Dynasty, Bloomburrow, and Tarkir Dragonstorm in different boxesMy dream is for us to eventually use these Limited collections to build constructed EDH decks to face off against each other, but I'm having trouble figuring out how many different sets and how many drafts of each would be ideal to make sure the pools are generally balanced against each other. Any ideas?
>>97451158Powerstone token
Friendly reminder:You can help old players to stop this hobby by buying their collection for cheap!The faster the ones that have a problem with MtG leave the better.Pro tip:When you find an UWfaggot they are usually desperate enough to lowball as a final cry for help. Just be confident when offering lower. They will budge first because moving a collection is pretty slow and unlike you they don't have time lmao.
>>97451179>stoneI meant rock
I hate impulse draw and I want them to stop printing it.
I hate doubling effects and I want them to stop printing it
>>97451169Sauce?
I love impulse draw and I want them to print more of it. Maybe even an effect that doubles your impulse draws.
>>97451169>Strixhaven leaks, at this time of year?
>>97451169>>97451207toy fair in germany.ARE YOU READY FOR 14 PRECONS IN THE NEXT 6 MONTHS?!https://archive.ph/GyW9j
>>97451172>>97451175>>97451179>>97451184>>97451187Based anons. Thank you.
>>97451236Those aren't leaks, they're spoilers.
>>97451221moother FUCK-ER
>>97451236Oh shit is that Dina?
>>97451191I'm sick of +1/+1 counter spam.
>>97451250The face commanders are the uncommon students from Strixhaven 1.0.
TMNT is OLD shitNew cards incoming!
>>97451236Oh, Quint being a commander means there'll be another Planeswalker commander, I just realised.
The card that filters /edhg/>>97451275>TMNT got spoilered early. we got A WEEK with no spoilers. What should we do?!>tough times require tough decisions. spoil the april seteuropean retailers are already opening up their strixhaven preorders.
>>97451236>Golgori and Boros preconsJust fuck my bank account up.
>>97451236Hasbro to WotC:
>>97451281Unless he loses his spark, but I doubt they will do that since he is the newest one to have joined the lore.I'm okay with it. If he's the face commander he'll likely just be "okay"
>>97451275THEY KEPT THE DRAGONS ALIVE YES
>>97451275>Worldfire for 2
>>97451275Damn an actual great miracle commander not like the Duskmourn's Aminatou
I just realized this card is basically Rofellos if you run enough 1drop manadorks. With 10 you have a ~50% chance of getting one in opening hand so you can play Brigid t2 and make 3-4 mana with her turn 3.
reprinted the only good card from Aetherdrift. thank god.
>Japanese Mystical Archive is backYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>97451236>>97451250Lorehold Spirit White/Red Commander: Quintorius Strategy: Create Spirits as cards leave your graveyard, and then buff them in order to deal massive damage.Prismari Artistry Blue/Red Commander: Rootha Strategy: Cast powerful and expensive spells, while also creating massive Elementals with each cast.Quandrix Unlimited Blue/Green Commander: Zimone Strategy: Flood the board with fractals, hydras, and other creatures with variable stats and pummel the opponent.Silverquill Influence White/Black Commander: Killian Strategy: Use Auras and other enchantments to make opposing creatures fight each other while you draw cards and grow more powerful.Witherbloom Pestilence Black/Green Commander: Dina Strategy: Create pests and strategically sacrifice them to gain life, draw cards, and drain your opponent before they can react.
>>97451346I'm surprised they remembered Rootha and Killian exist.
>>97451346>Strategy: Create Spirits as cards leave your graveyard, and then buff them in order to deal massive damage.Cam he get a new gimmick?I'll think I'll just end up keeping this as my commander, I have enough combat based decks.Dina seems cool and more pests is neat.
Japanese Stock Up Mystical Archive
>>97451275>>97451329finally a miracle commander that isnt shit?
Avengers Assemble White/Blue/Red Characters pictured: Captain America, Nick Fury Strategy: "Grow your ranks," "Equipment and counters"Wakanda Forever White/Green Characters pictured: Black Panther, Shuri Strategy: "Power up with Artifacts," "Reign as the Monarch"The Fantastic Four White/Blue/Red/Green Characters pictured: Mister Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing Strategy: "Noncreature spells," "Protection fields"Doom Prevails Blue/Black/Red Characters pictured: Doctor Doom, Loki Strategy: "Connive for power," "Drain life"
>>97451288I like this. It would be cool if they kept going with math cards. Maybe a card with some simple trig? That would be fun.
>>97451236>5 decks like Tarkir>all 2 colorthis will be kino. start saving now anons.
>>97451384They can't do anything TOO complicated. They won't even do division.
>>97451185You've never bought a collection anon. Bizarre larp post
What's the secret?
>>97451250Still mad about how pretty Dina looked in the promo art for STX but I did snag this alter some anon made back when it came out. Want to build a pEDH deck with her just haven't figure out what theme I want
>>97451410Lesbians.
>>97451415>1 half of the most brain empty infinite 2 card infinite in the command zoneI'm pretty sure this was already the case with her previous card, but to do it again is so fucking cringe
>>97451329Genuinely a bonkers card holy fuck
>>97451430anon that is her previous card read the post
>>97451329well now I know what I'm building with Planetarium of Wan Shi Tong
>>97451275>read card>wow, cool first effect now you just have to figure out how to draw on your opponents tur->next line enables its effectFucking slop
>>97451393>pox>"divided as you choose"They have done division technically
>>97451553It's boros, I'll allow that.
>>97451553>Good cards aren't allowed to be good.I wonder what retards like you think isn't "slop."
>>97451588The card would've already been good. Now it's just boring because it enables itself.
>>97451588Its a good card without enabling itself. With that line added it becomes a boring card. This is objectively slop, no thought required
are you guys really complaining an unplayable 5mv commander is enabler and payoff?
>>97451607It's wildly playable in casual. If you let this live a turn rotation you're probably just going to lose.
>>97451578>Jank 19:24 (EDH): "And again I say unto you, It is easier for boros to go through the eye of a needle, than for simic to enter into the kingdom of sovl."
>>97451606>>97451603>Its just slop because it is goodDoubling down like retards without stating what is not slop.How predictable.
>>97451621Literally both posts you are responding to give an explanation lil zoomzoom
>>97451621>"because it's good"Fucking retard with no understanding of basic design principles. An interesting card would just give your instants or sorceries miracle 2. It ASKS something of the player for a powerful payoff. >getting a card per turn is extremely advantageous now>how are you going to get a card off the top of your library?This card obviates that issue and makes it utterly uninteresting to play. The fact that you can't see it makes it clear you started playing during FIRE design and you think value piles like Yshtola and Teval are interesting.
>>97451614>It's wildly playable in casual. If you let this live a turn rotation you're probably just going to lose.God forbid boros has some of that "blow everyone off the board" action
>>97451635>this other boring commander makes it okay for Boros to have boring commanders???
>>97451633PreDH must really be popping off in your area huh?
>>97451638Yes because if you were logically consistent you would demand aesi and co. to be banned, or at least shoo them away from your table (lol)
>>97451382Why are these yellow now? Are these the premium editions or something? I thought we saw these earlier with the standard black coloring.
>>97451647Only a retard could make such big logical leaps. The cards being slop doesn't mean they should be banned. They're just slop. I'll play against them, new players love commanders that do all the heavy lifting for them.
>>97451607Retard (you) has edhgbrain
>>97451652It says collector's edition on the yellow box
>>97451661>i beat you with aesi and lorehold>(You) have the moral victory in exchangeWhy are you crying about a fair transaction again nigger?
>>97451664Oh fuck I was blind. Thanks.
>>97451671Oh you're this poster ok
>>97451676Concession accepted baby boy haha
LEAVEjust fucking LEAVE if you dislike anythingLEEEEAAAVUUU
10 losses in, I'm starting to wonder if I can convince my friends to go back to the stuff we played before everyone got into commander.
>>97451722>just fucking LEAVE if you dislike anythingThat’s fucking absurd advice in ANY area of life. In anything that you care about, you’ll find some things that you dislike—be it friendships, romance, hobbies, or employment.
>>97451722This might be one of the most fembrained posts of all time. Powerful.
>>97451733>never let things go, keep holding resentment of things you cant change until you dieKekw
some ai wizard who can super enhance the cards?
>>97451722this post was written by your mom observing that you are having difficulty with a video game.
>>97451743>twitch chat zoomer literally cannot read>just posts and responds to delusionsPowerful zoomer behaviour.>>97451747Fucking hell this thread is full of retards lmao
>>97451747Captain marvel being a lesbian is expected, but black widow is surprisingly pretty
>>97451747Most of them draw a card when you do the thing. One of them even casts a nonland card from the top of your library for free.
>>97451747
>>97451750You know what's powerful? 75% UB sets every year, enjoy
>>97451766I have nothing against UB so im not sure why youre posting this Lil zoom zoom. I know covid deprived you of crucial social development but try to do better :)
>>97451747yay! more mechanically unique cards in a super limited print product. time to scalp
>>97451774Ok enjoy 100% FIRE design every set then haha
>>97451743If you allow resentment to overwhelm joy whenever you find something you dislike, you’ll spend your life running away from the world without ever finding anywhere to call home.
>>97451747>no dr. Strange on the boxUh guys I'm getting nervous
>even /mtg/ has commander spoilers on before fucking /edhg/cmon now nogames, step it up
>all this thoughtslop
>>97451780Most sets are still very enjoyable to play despite a few stinkers getting printed. Would you like to continue making a fool of yourself lil fella
>>97451787God that Quint is bad. I like the Dina though.
>>97451797I'm not the one making a fool of himself crying over lorehold btw hahaha
>>97451787>Multiple copies of herselfThat's why there's so many fucking Zimone cards I guess.
>>97451800is static token making on a walker that fuels itself and is the wincon really that bad?
>>97451803I never cried over it. I said it was a very strong card, which it is :) turns out your poor social development has multiple people calling you retarded. How you gunna embarrass yourself next son
>>97451787don't care about those jobberswaiting for the elder dragons
Scene cards. Poor quality. They all seem to suck ass anyway.
>>97451812One or more really kills its potential.
>>97451275Holy pushed
>>97451821
>>97451818>backtracks from muh sloppa because he knows he's all aloneHahaha cry more over the next pushed mythic
>>97451825I guess but at least it's not once a turn
>>97451158Vibranium
>>97451821>>97451829Holy fucking slop rofl
>>97451821>>97451829unbelievable. they are all bad.
>>97451856I THINK Hawkeye is SORT OF okay and Absorbing Man and Titania can probably do something, but nothing's really that interesting.
>>97451829Abomination and Absorbing Man with Titania may not be so bad. And Modok is going to be annoying but the rest do seem bad.>>97451821Hawkeye has benefit with the fact he scales at least and it's any target so he's versatile.
>>97451838>Colorless>Enters tappedThey really didn't want another treasure situation. If the precon is going to revolve around these then it's in for a rough time.
>>97451889>>97451838they're powerstone tokens, they're just literally powerstone tokens.
>>97451889It’s an indestructible powerstone. We already know how they play.
>>97451889it's an upgraded powerstone. a token so bad it doesnt get played anywhere.
>>9745128816 mana to kill someone. Doesn't seem great
>>97451895>>97451897>>97451901I was about to say that powerstones can't be used to cast nonartifact spells and these can, but fuck these can't either. I didn't notice that. Yeah they really are just indestructible powerstones. Powerstones and monarch. They really fucked this precon.
>>97451915>They really fucked this precon.Unfortunately, if recent releases are anything to judge by, that being the obvious conclusion just means that it’s somehow completely busted.
>>97451838okay, he's super shit.our black kween needs to save this precon.
one more
>>97451924I'm unsure how they could make it powerful when it's got such conditions. Outside of maybe doing a "end phase triggers trigger multiple times/ multiple end phases" thing like Obeka can with upkeeps. But I don't want to tempt fate with that kind of theory. I just hope it isn't actually crazy and it ends up the bad underpowered one of the group like the Secret Lair was.
>>97451838>Powercrept powerstonesThis is really annoying. Vibranium is just a metal. It doesn't generate power. It has the ability to nullify kinetic energy, and with that ability to redirect that energy but it by itself isn't not a powersouce. Just terrible. What it should have been is a token, that itself is indestructible and sacrificing it after paying a large cost, like 5 or, more and putting an indestructible counter on an artifact.
>>97451115>fav 2 color commander?Easy. My waifu and her cute butt.
>>97451830My exact words were>Genuinely bonkers cardPlease go ask your mummy how to socialize anon, you are bringing shame to your house.
>>97451787print better flavour text, I beg of you
>>97452006You know what's really shameful? being unable to let go of the things you hate kek
>>97452015These aren't offensively bad at least.
>>97451787>>97451942Killian is probably my favorite so far, but Zimone has a sort of effect I've been wanting. Definitely gonna wait to see the other elder dragons and alt commanders however
>>97451901I would play the hell out of powerstones if 99% of the producers werent hot dogshit. I genuinely love the token in theory.
>>97452030I dont hate this game or anything we are talking about... ive never seen someone try so hard to make themselves look foolish congrats anon
>>97451787Quintus best as always for being reasonable design. The golgari and simic are peak slopsign
>more thoughtslop
>>97452015It's perfectly fine flavor text. A little cliche perhaps, but it gives you insight on the character's personalities and beliefs, I'll take it over>"This is perfectly safe" - Retardo, Dead Wizard
>>97452101even that is shakespear compared to>"AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE" -x last words
>>97452101Retardo flavor text every once in a while is charming. It's when you get a new Retardo every few months that it gets grating.
>>97452015The flavor text is indeed awful. Dont listen to the zoomers, they were born in piles of shit, its all they know they call it normal.
>>97452123This is soul.
I cant believe I'm saying this but this entire reveal, outside the return of mystical archives, have been a total downer. No interesting cards. No interesting mechanics. We are really racing towards a creativity dead end.
>>97452058>first he denies being the sloppa anon>now he denies being the anon that cant let goBwahahaha sure senpai
>>97452130>every few months that it gets grating.Exactly. I'll never shit on the earnest, world building, snarkless flavor text even if it's cliche because infinitely better than the "well THAT happened" shit
>>97451895>they're just literally powerstone tokens.believe it or not that's a good thing because everyone would be furious if a copyrighted term like vibranium was a uniquely powerful mtg mechanic
>>97451821>>97451829Is there some mandate that the marvel cards have to suck ass? For casual only cards these make the last two scene boxes feel like direct to modern product
>>97452169>I thought you were someone else (your fault)>I thought you were someone else again (also your fault)>bwahahahayou're looking mighty mistaken and concessatory desu fampai
>>97451838>selesnya >affinity monarch deckawhuh
>>97452231>i barge into arguments that doesn't concern me>trust me i'm not those schizos i'm different>also it's your fault you can't read my mindsure basedboy anything to save face right? haha
>>97452228Possibly? I think it's from some backwards ass attempt to make these cards entry level products that beginners can start with. Not realizing that if a game don't hook a player with some kind of interesting effects that are fun to use, that player isn't going to stick around.
>>97452166I agree. Not a god damn Monk in sight.
>yet another card Zimone gets pushedWhy did it have to be Zimone. Kaya 2.0
>>97451946If the tokens are easy enough to generate and you have enough cards that care about artifact count, what you’re actually doing with the tokens starts to matter a lot less.>>97451949It’s retarded, but I think I get why they did it. Having stopped paying attention a while ago, I’m vaguely aware that vibranium is a significant enough resource that people fight over access to it. The Marvel universe doesn’t have mana the way Magic does, but mana’s the main resource in the game, so “valuable resource” becomes mana generation.
>father-in-law getting checked into palliative careCommanders for this feel?
>>97452362Zedruu
>>97451787They made Dina pretty again, very pleased by this
>>97452365The fuck is wrong with you, man? Zedruu's nowhere near cheerful enough.
>>97452365RWU, gifting a Rest in Peace
>>97451968I'm surprised how simple these are mechanically. The Fantastic 4 seemed like they had more going on.
>>97451275>>97451329>Let the Lorehold player keep their commander>Instantly lose>Spot remove Lorehold because his effect is archenemy-tier>That player doesnt do anything and gets frustrated because their entire hand is now choked with trashSTOP FUCKING MAKING CARDS LIKE THESE. THEYRE SO FUCKING GAY AND SHIT AND NOBODYS EVER HAPPY BECAUSE OF THE PLAY PATTERNS THEY INTRODUCE.
>>97452444>deck doesn't work without the commander learn to build better decks, faggot.
>>97452166Nah they're just saving the good mechanics for UB so youre forced to buy it.
>>97452461Thats not what I said you knuckledragging retard. Read my post again and develop some critical thinking skills before you speak.
One of those online sites that breaks down decks said this is a combo.I am legit too small brained to understand how, can someone please explain it to me.
>>97452461Take the cock out of your mouth, the balls off your eyes, and go take an English class you disgusting freak.
>>97452326>Kaya 2.0Shock my dog, shock my dog
>>97452491If you copy a spell that copies a spell then you can have the new copy target and copy the original spell which copies the spell copying the spell copying the spell ad infinitum.
>>97452473The UB mechanics are also dogshit.
Ahhh yes, methinks I’ll run just a bunch of shitty one cost targeting spells along with some firebending. Good fun, this
>>97452534Yeah, I got that, but like, how does that work with a spell that matters, like I play lightening bolt with the goggles, then copy it with return the favor doesn't that just make it copy 3 times instead of just looping infinitely?Other than forcing a draw I still can't wrap my smooth brain around it.
>>97452610Anon, you use the goggles to copy Return the Favor.
>click into maldhound stream for the first time in forever>he's banning someone for making an ironic antisemetic joke and lecturing to the chat why you can't even joke ironicallyrofl Magic content creators are pathetic
>>97452599I hate to admit that for one of those "Low power starter set" type commanders, Loki does seem kinda fun.Kinda like a weird alternative take on Zada.
Which of my commanders would you love and hate to play against?
I still don't know what The Ring Tempts You does
>>97452579the marvel mechanics are no more complicated than FF's
>>97452618Okay, so. You play bolt, then play return the favor, copying bolt, but you are copying return the favor, and just keep copying that, which is copying bolt, until like 20 billion times, and then stop the loop buy copying the first bolt again for 66 billion damage?
>>97452645FF had mechanics?Oh I guess Jump.
>>97452643>Bill>Horobi>Lathielrespectable>the restIck
>>97452599I fucking hate how we don't get these kind of unique cards in actual magic property sets. 8 million goblin commanders in red but the second its a crossover it'll be a completely new effect that doesn't have a commander yet to push the product.>>97452643Would love to see how you built that Bone-Cairn Butcher pauper. Here's my Valduk that still holds its own in regular EDH games>https://archidekt.com/decks/18221366/cant_buck_the_duk
>>97452643>love or hateI don't care for people's tastes, only if they plan on blindsiding me with a cedh azula
>>97452690I want Azula to step on me
>>97452690>cedh>azulaAnon who has never played CEDH spotted
>>97452599Wow yet another steal and sac deck
>>97452643Love indoraptor because I missed out and I want to make oneHate Scarab god because he's the smost useless (story wise) of the godsDon't bring the wrong deck to the of precon table, don't bait me to the cedh tabble
>>97452698>Anon who has never played CEDHazula can throw 2 adnauses, sorry you outed yourself has having no card evaluation skills
>>97452618>>97452652But return the favor copying return the favor doesn't actually do anything. You're infinitely copying return the favor, not infinitely copying lightning bolt. You might make mtgo crash from a large stack but it's not infinite damage.
>>97452686Honestly a lot of that Pauper deck is ATLA and Tarkir bulk, https://archidekt.com/decks/18776701/bonecairn_pauperJust trying to get some tokens and then get perks for them dying
>>97452717I appreciate you continuing despite no one caring.
>>97452727>2 ad nauseslmao almost had me anon
>>97452728it's infinite magecraft triggers
>>97452728>You might make mtgo crashWouldn't this result in a draw in paper since there isn't a way to break the loop?
>>97452644you take the initiative but for a four room dungeon
>>97452783I actually still don't know what taking the initiative does either. I know venture into the dungeon tho
>>97452738good thing you never had me at thinking you know cedh
>>97452643Honestly I'd wanna see the Lotho or Indoraptor and how my decks would square up against them. Narset and Ureni would probably be headaches for me based on how I build my decks
>>97452698Anon Im literally part of the cEDH organizing body in my state.She absolutely sees both play and success.
>>97452643Avatar aang, to see if you could do the thing.
>>97452737Not sure if backhanded insult or genuine, but just in case: Thank you!
>>97452810My indo is hyperburn, but it’s all random and fair. I put Tergrid in there to discourage people from choosing to sac their creatures, but have never had the chance to go that route Lotho is my commander deck that cares the least about the commander, it’s lifegain/drain. If Lotho is out I get some good early treasures to make things happen faster>>97452834I did the thing three games in a row, even once being able to transform him multiple times. But then my pod figured out that letting me do the thing was bad, and as such I have yet to successfully do it again>>97452723Indoraptor is incredibly fun. Whether he has 4 +1/+1 counters on him or 40, it’s always a fun game>>97452690My Azula is bracket 2, and only cares about combat tricks and commander damage
>>97451787>She's back
>>97452964Nah, it wasn't backhanded, no one ever replies, but in spite of that you still have drive and are having fun.
>>97452964I don't reply to your proxies but I do enjoy seeing them. I've got a Dark Souls themed proxy deck (Isshin) with some Bloodborne stuff in it too so these being MPC ready makes me consider grabbing a few for myself.
>>97452738....you do realize it makes it harder to counter a combo when you get 2 spells
You know why Zimone is getting so many cards don't act dumb
>>97453077All you have to do is make it a full rotation then enter your combat step with a 4-mana Grixis creature in CEDH!
>>97453084Return of tyrannids?
>>97453096Yes. Are you under the impression that is an impossible task in cedh?
>>97453096>obviously not cedh because it's impossible to get to 7 mana fr fr
>>97453127You can. You're just making the act of winning in the format based around winning at all costs needlessly hard for yourself.
>>97453174No Timmy, your dinosaur is not cedh. Based on YouTube videos I've seen, only kinnan and partner pairs are cedh.
>>97453174>comparing Etali and AzulaLOL
>>97453196>comparing your brain vs oursDOUBLE LOL
>>97452645I didn’t say they were complicated. I said they were dogshit.
>>97453000And she only takes one kind of dick, black.
>>97453084>>97453118More like return of TYRONEES
>>97453208UW is dogshittier btw
>>97453096If Azula sticks she is making it to combat. This is cedh, most the removal is counters.
I've got the itch to do a monocolor commander. What are your guys' favorites? I'm considering a March of the Machines Praetor since they mostly have clear build directions and I like Sagas, but I'm open to ideas.
>>97452659Saga Creatures (Vanishing+) and Job Select (Living Weapon) were the mechanics of the Final Fantasy set.
>>97453242>Living Weaponthey've done 0/0, 2/2, and now 1/1what is the next statline they'll try?
>>97453195>only kinnan and partner pairs are cedh.I hope this is irony.
>>97453195Why even talk about something that you clearly know nothing about.
>>974532560/1 with tap to sacrifice and attach an Equipment attached to the token to that creature.
>>97453238Do Sephara but don't be a retard and make it angel Tribal, instead fill it with a combination of very cheap efficient creature, flying hatebears, and flyers that increase the combat stats of all your creatures. It's FUN.
>>97453005>>97453041Happy to read that my cards are appreciated. Though I don't know how long I can keep going as I am kinda running out of ideas.I haven't uploaded the latest batch yet, but my collected works are found here:https://ln5.sync.com/dl/e6f6e9db0#pdzmq94r-5fvdtcd4-k75tq5is-chi8yvyz
dina was my first commander
>>97451787Surprised by that Zimone, she's usually much weirderWill probably still pick it up though
>>97453351All proxy makers in this general need to kill themselves. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being kill yourself immediately, you're and 8 and the AI coom spammer is a hard 10.
>>97453416>stop having fun with the hobby or kill yourselfI wish more people made proxies to piss you and your ilk off specifically.
>>97453416Seethe forever, fuck boi. Now I have the urge to actually make these proxies and post them here, just to piss you off. Fuck you, this anon actually produces good content, without a single shitpost, and you want him gone. Suck on a plutonium rod.
here's my commander (for pauper) your response?
>>97453096Did you fall for the 'cedh ends on t2' meme?
>>97453444Piss off faggot, no one wants to see it.>>97453451Talking about yourself as if you are someone else is cringe.>>97453461>Lorcana>Like it was made by a 6 year oldI see who you are trying to impress to fuck.
>>97453451Why are you black
not only did they make my nigga depressed they gave him a dogshit effectI will not forgive wizards for this
>>97453496How is his effect dogshit?
>>97453474Sorry, not proxy maker, I don't know shit about bloodbourne other than it's a Lovecraftian game. I just appreciate when someone put effort into something they enjoy to make it their own/better.>>97453492Because I am.
>>97453496>gave him a dogshit effectWhat's dogshit about this?
>>97453416I'll kill myself as soon as wotc stops making cards I want to proxy.
>>97453496>has a reason to run both versions together>dogshitnigga you bad at this game
>97453563No, kill yourself now. Stop forcing your bullshit fetishes on all of us.>>97453522>Defending garbage You should kill yourself too for that, and being a welfare leech.
>>97453217Way too small
>>97452643Unironically would love to play your Bill Ferny since I've wanted to make that deck
>>97453563What's uh, the flip side look like on that?
>>97451787Rootha might go in my Neera deck but otherwise these aren’t interesting
>>97453618
>>97453496Sup
>>97453636>>97453563Buy an ad
Going to go have fun playing magic later nerds
>>97453636Why do you make these terrible proxies with such a boring, generic art style? I get jerking off to shit art of goblins because your standards are low when horny, but don't you want something actually aesthetically pleasing for every other occasion?
>>97453662Good luck
>>97453664He's a jeet and doesn't have real hardware to be able to keep the slop from looking so sloppy
>>97453664I'm fine with it. Its that simple. You are free to gen whatever you want in whatever way you want.
>>97451158If investigate is for Clues, what would the others be?Treasure - bargainJunk - litterFood - cookBlood - evisceratemap - surveymutagen - mutate
>>97451191Sure thing anon!>discard a card, then draw a card
>>97451191I want more shit that synergizes with it.
>>97453684they look fine anon, they'll always find some reason to say it's bad.
>>97453797>map - surveyToo similar to surveil
>>97451968Wow this is boring. Both of Dooms cards are boring
>>97453915Did you think Marvel would be unique and interesting?It's literally designed to bring in new players. It is going to be Core-Set tier but also pushed to fuck because little timmy MCU must be able to HULK SMASH or whatever
>>97451275>no inherent protection >once a turn spell slinger>5 mana in RW>demands to be removed or it will enable some bullshitIt's going to be Ragost all over again, hyped, played heavily the first week, then everyone will realize its unplayable in any competent pod and drop it.
>>97451829>Thanos gets bodied by DavrosThis greatly amuses me. Complete Kaled victory.
>>97451821>Black Widow>mono whiteah yes, assassins. My favorite mono white archetype.
>>97453920>Did you think Marvel would be unique and interesting?Sure could be if WOTC would even attempt to try. It's like they just have someone reading a marvel wiki.
>>97453920Acshually its an advertisement to get mtg players into marvel
>>97453936>would even attempt to try.again why? This is a set to bring in new players because number must go up.WoTC follows the same market research that says YOU, anon, will eat shit as long as it's from WoTC because they already 'have' you as a customer.
I actually refuse to read any Marvel cards.
Lorwyn was a bust.Turtles actually looks decent.Marvel looks terrible.Strixhaven looks fun.All my predictions about the sets have already collapsed. (I'm worried Hobbit will suck now).
>>97453998Okay my Flash card says he gets +1/+1 for each permanent my opponents control and has hexproof is anyone controls an Island.
>>97453998Kek this. Marvel is already my least favorite set. I shant draft it. I shant purchase singles. I just don't want to see it.
>>97453922This.Its going to be dogshit.Its likely far too dependent on the commander to do anything.Itll be removed and then you just lose. Needs hexproof.
>>97453999>Lorwyn was a bust.>Turtles looks interestingTrying to (you) farm is shameful
>>97451821>When Black Widow deals combat damage to an opponent, you and that player each draw two cards.What the actual fuck is this? It's like an apology for swinging.Is this meant to be some kind of joke about Widow being a throw pick in Rivals????
>>97451787Damn will the special art of Quintorius be sexier? I need my furry fan service
>>97454013The Flash is DC you actual retard
>it must be removed so its bad
>>97454086With how little interaction people run, yes.
>>97454108Unironically how the fuck is the game supposed to end if you cater to people not running any removal? Yeah sure when your fucking 1-drop has to be removed it's a problem, but why are people bitching that like a green 7-drop with no protection or haste does a lot of damage?
>>97452965Got a list for Aang? I can't make him work for shit.
>>97453999I think I mostly agree with that. There's two cards in Lorwyn I'm interested in. The rest isn't really appealing. Turtles looks dumb but at leats mechanically interesting so whatever. Marvel looks pretty bad right now. Nearing Spider-Man level mediocre effects and uninteresting design.
>>97454197>Turtles looks dumb but at leats mechanically interesting so whatever.Is this WotC's UB marketing line after Spider-Man flopped?
>>97454215Yeah, it's what all the content creators are saying despite the set looking like hot ass.
>>97454086If a legendary creature clearly developed FOR COMMANDER is so powerful that your only real recourse is to kill it every time it hits the field lest you randomly die, it's dogshit design.
>>97454138I’m only using avatar spells for flavor, so no moonmist in here or any other pre-ATLA ally stuff. Roaming throne would be awesome in it. I have found it best to airbend your own creature, then let it come in for an earthbend trigger, and then use your board state aside from Aang to waterbend. Transform Aang on attack.Best cards IMO are Monk Gyatso, Aang’s Iceberg, and Toph the First Metalbender for her end step Earthbend triggerhttps://archidekt.com/decks/18328352/avatar_aang_bending_master
I would very much prefer if this was playable as a commander. Wonder if he is going to get another PW card in the main set. Hope it won't be ass.
>>97454249Much obliged. Waterbend has been the bottleneck for me, it has too many bad cards in my experience, but I'll try this list out.
>>97454242>you now remember that creators that don't toe the line get hunted down by WotC
>>97454253They seem to be going for 2 Planeswalkers per set now, so it'll probably be Quintorius and White Liliana. Although I guess Kasmina is also an option.
>>97454275Reality Fracture is likely to have several, so who knows.
>>97454302At least 2
>>97454332Teferi has never been Jace's teacher.
>>97454086Eh, it's mostly a problem with the KoS commanders as the decks are often built around getting them out really quickly and shut down any development by other players to withstand it. Yes Toxril isn't actually competitive, but it can be wildly oppressive. Arcum Dagson into Portal to Phyrexia into conjuror's/darksteel forge/whatever or Satoru into nijutsu runescarred Demon into Blightsteel in one combat is not wildly strong but when certain cards permanently encapsulate a game ending threat and a player is able to easily build the rest of the deck about recurring or enabling it then it forces everyone else to build decks towards something like CEDH to have the requisite, consistent answers.>>97454110You're not really describing the same kind of card people are thinking of when they talk about oppressive cards.
>>97453797The only reason Investigate is a keyword at all is because they hadn’t yet decided that they could just predefine some tokens in the rules of the game instead of spelling them out in the text of each card creating them.
>>97454346Incorrect sir>Jace and Teferi are connected primarily through a mentor-ally relationship that develops during the Gatewatch era. Teferi acts as a stabilizing, older presence for Jace, often pushing him to slow down, think long-term, and stop carrying every failure as a personal burden. They fight together against shared threats like the Eldrazi and Nicol Bolas, with Jace providing raw intellect and psychic insight while Teferi brings experience, patience, and temporal foresight. Their dynamic is also philosophical: Jace tends toward introspection and guilt, while Teferi counters that with pragmatism and hard-earned wisdom from centuries of loss. They aren’t emotionally close in a friendly way, but they respect each other deeply and function well as equals shaped by very different lifetimes.
>>97453496Nah, he's perfect for the horrific amount of agony I plan to unleash upon my playgroup.
Doctor Doom looks so good guys, I'm hyped!
>>97454400They've met like once.
>>97454425Holy winmore
>>97454400Thank you chatgpt!
>>97454479And?
>>97454215NTA but it's genuinely what I think of the set. I like the designs of a fair few of the cards but dislike the UB nature of them. There are cards I want to slot into decks but am looking at proxying them into something UW or at least more thematic.
>>97454494>I like the designs of a fair few of the cards but dislike the UB nature of themThen the answer is not to buy it. If UB sells, they print more. If UB doesn't sell, WotC will put these effects on non-UB cards or UW them.
>>97454484Chatgpt told me (you) should kill yourself.
>>97454456I don't get the point of the land discard condition on a Grixis card, given how bad those colors are at recurring lands and there are much better discard/connive commanders.
>>97454507>He still thinks voting with the wallet does anything in the year 2026lol. Spiderman sold like liquid dogshit but they're putting even MORE money into Marvel, it has collector precons, collector's boxes are already sold out. I sympathize with your position but this war is lost, he may as well enjoy himself until the game is over.
>>97454507>If UB doesn't sell, WotC will put these effects on non-UB cards or UW them.Wrong!Based on the recent lawsuit, they not only account for the fact some people are only buying UW, they're banking on it as part of their segmentation strategy.The only path forward is to buy NOTHING, until Wizards changes its practices.But can you little piggies control yourself that long?
>>97454528It's to make connive a win-win.
>>97454518No it didn't
>>97454537Where did you see this info? I don't feel like reading the whole 90 pages or some such, can you point me to a section that talks about this?
>>97454533>Spiderman sold like liquid dogshit but they're putting even MORE money into Marvel,Yes that's because sets are planned 2 years in advance and they entered into a contract with Disney for 3 sets.If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, say nothing
>>97454593He can't because it's a lawsuit about events in 2022 so it doesn't discuss UB at all.
>>97454507That's why I was looking at proxying them or buying as singles on the secondary market. I don't think it's realistic to think Wotc is going to make UW versions.>>97454533When Spiderman sold like shit Wotc probably has doubled down to "ensure" Marvel's success as they can't have another UB set fail for the brand recognition (see the whole influencer witchunt). It's bad PR for MTG to have a crossover with them do badly, especially publicly, since it hurts the idea of MTG as a worthwhile property to partner with. Also a lot of this was planned a year+ in advance. If anything it's Spiderman that was the double down from a mini-set to a "full" set rather than the reverse. All the collector stuff for that and Marvel is probably 40-60% new scalpers rather than existing players and when the flop happens again(hopefully) then the next release after that will be the one we see hugely underperform financially since that contingent will have backed out.
>>97454594>Two more weeks!Sure retard. Secret Lairs are on their way to dying soon too!>>97454608This is a more nuanced take, I'm hoping for the same thing you are, scalpers are going all in on Marvel because it's such a big property, so if they take a bath on it HOPEFULLY it will reduce future UB output, but I just don't have the faith in people you do, I think it'll sell just fine. Not FF good but good enough.
>>97454528grixis specifically has exactly one land so far that plays itself from grave, and blue has de-landfall with moonfolk, so maybe the rest of the cards will play into that
>>97454528it's probably just a 'reward' for trying to draw into gas
>>97454617>>Two more weeks!>Sure retard. Secret Lairs are on their way to dying soon too!What the fuck are you talking about?>stop buying UB and they will stop printing it>"errrrm actually Spider-Man failed and there's still another Marvel set!!!!!">because sets are planned in advance and the Marvel sets were contracted for years ago>"haha I win for some reason!!!!!"
>>97451968Doom as a character could fit on like 5 cards minimum, but this represents none of his traits, what the fuck does Doom have to do with discarding lands?And they knew Villains as a creature type are garbage by default, they couldnt make a pushed commander for a shit tribe at least?
>>97454648>what the fuck does Doom have to do with discarding lands?Someone at WotC has a massive hardon for playing lands from the grave
>>97454640You were arguing the reason they still put money into Marvel was due to contractual obligations from being planned out two years in advance, but Secret Lairs have been around for what, 5 years? And despite some of them being financial failures they continue to print them and print even more now than they did before. My original point was that voting with your wallet does not work, the people who eat this up will ALWAYS outnumber you. So telling a guy to skip cards he might enjoy playing to make some kind of stand is a pointless waste of time for all involved.
>>97454665>You were arguing the reason they still put money into Marvel was due to contractual obligations God I'm talking to that retard who tried to argue that the Tolkien Estate was worth more than Hasbro, aren't I?The fuck do you even mean by "putting money into Marvel"? Printing the set? Promoting the set? Because, yes, those will be things WotC is contractually obliged to do.>Secret Lairs have been around for what, 5 years? And despite some of them being financial failures they continue to print them and print even more now than they did before>My original point was that voting with your wallet does not work, the people who eat this up will ALWAYS outnumber youBrand new arguments from you.What you actually fucking said was:>Spiderman sold like liquid dogshit but they're putting even MORE money into MarvelAnd the answer to that was WotC signed a deal with Disney literal years before they knew Spider-Man flopped.I BEG you to try arguing that actually what you meant by "they" was consumers and not WotC, it would be the funniest shit ever.
>>97452643Horobi because things that force players to play without just windmill slamming creatures are needed for the game and usually players just avoid having to adapt and choose to never face them.
What do we think bros?
>>97454734Don't be a bad faith schizo and reduce people who argue with you to the same person, it makes you look extremely retarded. No, I was talking about WotC, they ARE required to print the set, but that doesn't mean they have to print surge foil collectors editions of precons and up their advertising budget. The fact that Spiderman was last minute changed to a full set from a smaller set proves they have some form of leeway on HOW a set is printed within relatively short time frames. I invite you to provide proof otherwise. And yes, the secret lair argument was brand new, because it was a response to you claiming that the ONLY reason they're increasing resources into the Marvel set was contractual obligation, the implication being that if it sells poorly enough, they would stop future UB sets. The original argument over all this was whether a boycott of UB would work, it won't. You've still said nothing to counter this assertion.
>>97454755All UB belongs in the shredder.
>>97454755>set exclusive typal mechanicthe only saving grace is that we know we get 4 marvel sets, so the mechanic isnt complete ass. a 3 mana, 3/3, no keywords, do nothing when it enters is shockingly weak in 2026.
>>97454768>Don't be a bad faith schizo and reduce people who argue with you to the same person, it makes you look extremely retarded>NO DON'T IDENTIFY ME YOU'RE CRAZY! YOU LOOK BAD!Nailed it I guess.No more (You)s for you
>>97454755Mark Spears PS2 cutscene "art" is dogshit.
>>97454755The effect seems boring and the art is not good.
What cards from Lorwyn Eclipsed did you add to your decks?
>>97454816Bunch of faeries to my Alela, bunch of elementals to my Ashling precon, couple cards that care about mana value 4+ to my Neera. That's about it.Mornsong Aria for the memes, couple Rimefire Torques because it's going to be a tribal staple.I want to get Oft-Nabbed Goat because I think that's going to turn into a Commander classic.Other than that I'm waiting for prices to go down
>>97454816Nothing. I didn't get either of the two cards I wanted. They're less than a buck but I'm too lazy to order them as singles.
>>97454816Nothing into existing decks, just built a grub deck.
>>97454816the card you posted, Adept Watershaper, Mirrorform, Lasting Tarfire and Twilight Diviner.
>>97454775Retard.
How many persistent petitioners would you run?
2/3 for 2RInstant and sorcery spells you cast with mana value 4 or greater cost X less to cast, where X is The Scarlet Witch’s power
>>974548670 because I don't play UB
>>97454856What deck is mirrorform going in anon?
>>97454869for once i cant tell if this is a joke about the color identity.
I'm just going to say it. Playing UB is less cringe than making your own custom cards and proxies.Trvth nvke.
>>97454868That's not that bad really. Can't put her in The Emperor of Palamecia but she could fit other decks i have.
>>97454869Anon I....
now that the kneejerking off has stopped, what are yall thinking of the new lorehold?I think he's gunna flop really fast, there's plenty of top deck manipulating commanders that often let you cast a card for free in better colors than boros At best he's just going into the 99 of some jeskai decks.
>>97454996Very good madness commander which sucks because we're not gonna get any madness cards for a long time, duskmourn was kinda the set you'd expect of it
>>97453922>no inherent protectionThat's what the sorcery/instants are forBesides it's not like eh has trouble running boots/grieves/etc
>>97454996He's significantly better than his previous version, though that isn't a high bar.
>>97454867They couldn't have called them "Li" and "Lo"?
>>97454996I'd build it. 5 mana in boros is a bit steep though. I'm so tired of buying:>Desperate Ritual>Seething Song>Mana GeyserFor all my decks with red
>>97453860Here you go
>post your favorite forest cardPic related. I'm tempted to make some kind of Selesnya deck that fits the vibe this art is throwing out. Any suggestions?
dina needed bigger tits
>>97455104The art gives me elfball vibes
>>97454959What is it like being so afraid of people perceiving your efforts negatively that you just do nothing anon?
>>97454996Objectively a very strong card. Doesn't really mean much nowadays though.>>97455047One copy can go in any number of decks. You can only play one at a time.
>have cool idea for a deck>would suck in my pod's meta:(I'll build it anyway I just wont play it
>>97455112can you go wg elfball?
>>97455179Why wouldn't you be able to? Its got green dont it
>>97455179
>>97455179rhys, tolsimir (the six mana one) if you want to be a hipster
>>97455236I do want to be a hipster.
>>97454996Even if we're ignoring the miracle ability, draw 3 discard 3 for each turn cycle is pretty strong in boros.
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
>>97455114>One copy can go in any number of decks. You can only play one at a time.I don't fuck around with swapping cards around. I want to be able to pick up a deck box and go to the LGS
>>97455326one day I want to pull the visual gag of playing something and it's an index card in a sleeve that says "your copy of X is in your other deck" in marker
>>97453496I think he’s neat. I just thought him and a judge version of the Og. Anybody have some unique jank for him that I wouldn’t find on degree?
Wanting to do a flavorful Frodo and Sam deck or fellowship deck I hate that the only decks that feel like they should are Rohan, Gondor, elves, and the various bad guys. Why the fuck is Frodo making tons of tokensAny luck making more flavorful decks? I made a fun Gilgamesh deck that matched the energy of that guy so I was wanting more flavorful stuff
>>97454867Persistent petitioner decks are unironically bracket 1
>>97455326Then dont cry about buying extra copies retard.
>>97455443>Wanting to do a flavorful Frodo and Sam deck or fellowship deckHow about you use those shitty UB cards to cover your baldspot you ancient millennial?
>>97455392Solidarity; Stoneskin might be funny, but flash +10/+20 is less impactful before blocks
>>97455443cloud's easy to make a flavorful deck of, especially when all of his party members are in naya colors
>>97455474How about we have more than 3 fucking cards to make certain colors like boros viable?
>>97455443what was the gilgamesh tech, anon?
>>97455476uh oh UB melty
>>97455443Literally 0 Frodo cards make tokens.
>>97455476Melty spotted
>>97455490I have zero words for you anon. You have displayed both a profound retardation on a fiscal level, and now an asinine view of boros. Begone from my presence
>>97455490You are really bad at deck building if you actually believe this.
>>97455498>>97455507You are an outed pedophile.
>>97455539classic poopdickschizo post
Bro fuck this captcha>>97455492https://archidekt.com/decks/19391747/master_at_armsFun times>>97455482I'm up for it. How does it perform? Doesnt seem like a great commander but the build could match the feel of turned based battles in ff7
>>97454996>>97454868>If you want to play the dragon you'll have to consider putting marvelslop in the deckLolLmao even
>>97455179We just got Brigid if you're willing to play a non-elf at the helm, it's basically a Gaea's cradle for your ball deck since she doesn't require kithkin for some reason.
>Put my deck into commandersalt>Baseline 3>Realistic, 1Wow. I guess I am just that bad at deck building.
>>97455574>How does it perform?it's a bracket 1 theme deck, you're just hoping to win 1 out of 7 games via omnislashing the board or something
I don't see the point in colour identity rules anymore when they keep printing busted 5 colour legends every set, your just gimping legends with less colours at that point
>>97451787Zimone reads like a future supervillain. I hope they take her down that path.
>>974557255 color in cedh is usually sisay and kenrith, the abilities of commanders is more important than access to 5 colorsif you're talking about things like ur-dragon, morophon, and slivers they are beaten by boardwipe.dec or combo but those are frowned upon and discouraged that's what's causing your perception to be skewed
>>97455725Delusional post
Are people really still acting like its 2010 and boros is the most gimp shit color combo?
>>97455780It quite literally is. How many boros commanders are there in the top 100 of EDHREC bud?
>>97455812>top 100 of EDHREC bud?>Like that means literally anything.>Means anything when 1000s of people are uploading trash simic good stuff plies that aren't even good, but are inflating the deck percentagesYou're a special kind of stupid.
>Someone casts pox>I am retarded at math
>>97455827>people just build lots of list for other colors cos they're better!!!!...concession accepted I guess...?
I think the designers are sabotaging Marvel to make a point to daddy Hasbro. These cards are too dogshit.
>Freakhaven will be the one to save Magic in 2026Sure not on my bingo card
What's the best way to copy Eternal Dominion as many times as possible?
>>97453668thanks I won every game
>>97455957Considering only three sets are universe within, it's not that surprising. But I kinda like Lorwyn anyway.
>>97455957I am most interested in Turtles. Cowabunga
>>97456110Misusing “universes within” again
>>97456200The majority of the community uses UW to refer to in universe. >DEY ARE WRONGWords are a social construct and their meanings change along with perception and use of others.
>>97455490Boros needs to have its name changed to boring. Also Zimone is so ugly I could never use it, same with Kinnan.
>>97456229>>97456200How many times do you people need to repeat this tired ass shit.
>>97456263well, if they have learned nothing else, they have learned to survive
I think my Sephiroth deck is too strong, I keep becoming the archenemy every game I play it...
>Want to build new deck>can't find a commander I want to build
>>97456577mono B Sephiroth is miserable to play against. If it is one of the other Sephiroths then you opponents are weird
>>97456581Yeah it's the black one, it does seem like it would be unpleasant to play against. Especially since there's a decent amount of voltron players at my LGS who just get completely stunlocked by it.
I want to do a fairly on-theme deck. Tell me what's best.>Etrata deck nearly with walls and protection. >Frodo, Saurons Bane with heavy protection, helpful enchantments, and only fitting creatures (Sam, Gollum, Nazgul, etc). Light creatures overall.
>>97454365You say that and yet I'm dealing with that.Hell there was over a month of people saying Jumbo Cactuar was going to be OP.
>>97453461>He still goes by the "any uncommon" rule for pEDHThere's more uncommon commanders now than commanders in general a decade ago
>>97454755If this is the general power level of the set we have another Spiderman floppola on hand.
>>97456770that's the rules
>>97455030Which is why >>97454996 it's dogshit. Unless you're tutoring you're going to have to waste a dozen cards just on protection to make sure your commander doesn't get blammed off the field. In real play there will be a lot of games where you just don't have it and a lot where you top deck boots or Dawn's Truce when what you really needed was literally anything else.Too many players theory craft in a vacuum and build magical christmas land decks then find out at an actual table it sucks. This is why so many build around commanders are weak unless they have massive inherent protection or are self contained mana/draw engines.
>>97455780Please, feel free to share your busted Boros decks bro.
>>97454996I think the whole miracle thing is mostly a meme because you can barely manipulate your topdeck in boros. He's just a commander that supports dumping a a bunch of shit in your graveyard and sometimes having the added bonus of casting Brilliant Restoration for two. Stuffing your deck with middling scry seems like a terrible plan.
>>97451895it's all upgrades for this card
>>97456972I don't remember those niggas, are they from chalice dungeons?
>>97453922I'd be more worried about the draw required to make him work. You somehow have to draw up to 4 cards per turn cycle to keep him going in boros. Maybe you can have fun with reanimating the permanents you discard in the process, but it all seems a bit frail in those colour. If it had green and/or blue, you could probably pull some bullshit easily.
>>97457210Yeah, hence why I said its going to be a hyped meme commander that everyone drops. It's one of those commanders where - if it's properly built - after you get in all the necessary protection and draw and ramp and lands you're going to have about 10-15 cards to actually play around with and at a real table you'll wind up durdling most games. The theorycrafting in edh is pretty ridiculous. A lot of decks I look at online are outright delusional and clearly no games.
>opponent does the best vegeta impression and plays pic rel
>>97455812>>97456852When did this thread get filled with the most braindead retarded zoomers alive. Fuck sakes >NUHUH ITS NOT STRONG WEBSITE SAID SO HEHEHEHEHCan always identify a zoomer by their deeply rooted need to be told how to think.
>>97456770What is the purpose of this dipshit post. There are non legendary uncommon with effects not found on legendaries.
>>97456839>waste a dozen cards on protection>hes not just running that many pieces of protection to begin withDogshit players trying to tell people how to play will never not be funny to me. Youre genuinely awful at this game ajd are just taking a contrarian position to try and set yourself apart. Genuinely embarrassing behaviour.
>>97457417All I asked was you to share these mythical Boros decks you claim to be strong enough to hold their own with top decks and you had a literal melty at the question lmao
>>97456966White is without a doubt the second best color for top deck manipulation you retards unironically just type shit hoping it adds up. It doesnt!>>97457358>ramp>draw>protection>no different than literally any other deck except it can do 2 of those at reduced rates every turnI beg of you post a deck because the advice youre giving is brutal.
We invited an ex-YuGiOh player to our pod and now he's stomping us with cards we've never seen before in our life. Just yesterday he said he was baffled nobody heard of this card, when we all thought it was some random bulk bin shit until he made 40 mana with it and won.
>>97457452cEDH tier
>>97457452Winona is played in cedh. Jolly balloon man has seen cedh play and is very strong. Arabella is a powerhouse of a card. Arbaaz is a 1 turn combo machine. Its painfully obvious you have no idea what youre talking about because your virtual daddy hasn't told you about them yet so you dont know what to think.
>>97457456>never heard of mind over matter>this thread is really just a zoomer havenYour friend googled basic bitch combos and since your entire pod is retarded none of you know what to do. No wonder this thread has drastically decreased in quality so much its literally just filled with miggerzoomers
>>97457456YGO players come in two types:>Person who reads the spreadsheet>Person who makes the spreadsheetThe latter are legitimately just built different. You give them anything that's not HOPT and they'll find a way to perform cold fusion with it.
>>97457456Yeah I think it's more baffling that you don't know about Mind Over Matter, this card was infamous.
>>97457454You don't need as much ramp (if any) if you're not running a 5cmc build around Commander. You don't need as much protection (if any) if your deck doesn't rely on your commander or any other singular specific piece sticking to the bored. Draw is important and never should be skimped. I don't need to post a specific deck because everyone in here who isn't a braindead retard can name 5 off the top of their head. Calm down melty. No more (You)s until you stop sperging out.
>>97457456So you were actually 4 in 2007 huh
>>97457456NOW THIS IS ZOOM ZOOM
>>97457478>>97457484>>97457491>>97457494Well I'm sorry I didn't memorize every combo from 10 years ago.
>the worst edh poster woke up and is now spamming the threadSee y'all after work
>>97457485Ahahahahahahahahahahahaahah POST A DECK YOU MADE, I WANT TO LAUGH MORE. Your advice is so bad its almost unbelievable.>>97457496Its about learning the game you pretend to like anon. Its about being invested in the hobby you pretend to have. Your yugioh friend played one time and already learned more than you. Thats pathetic.
>>97457507Why are you pretending you work when youre not even 18 anon
>last night at lgs>'turn 10+ win'>guy is playing temur iroh>gifts ungiven for storm kiln, curiosity, niv mizzet, and some other combo piece>goes infinite on turn 4>other guy thats crashing out was holding counterspells for me instead of stopping any of the tutors or combo pieces>have sorcerer class and 3 tempt with vengeance tokens out, playing a meme deck>table is mad at me for 'looking like a threat' for quoting saruman and being a goofball
>>97457454Can you post some of this supposed good white top deck manipulation? You're just talking out of your ass. Green and blue do it a million times better than white ever could.
>>97457171They appear during the Micolash boss fight.
>>97457523https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=color&page=9&q=oracletag%3Atop-deck-manipulation&unique=cardsYou genuinely know nothing about this game, have dogshit opinions, and a braindead view on deckbuilding. Stop arguing with your betters.
>>97457533Yes, now type ci:white in your search prompt and behold all your dogshit results such as 2 mana scry 1 combat tricks. You are a fucking clown.
>>97457549>doest know what hes talking about>needs the cards shown to him>so he can somehow instantly know what hes talking aboutWrong! Nice try at saving face though.>now typeWhy wouldnt i just sort them by color you massive dipshit lmao.
>>97457511Liking a game doesn't mean you need to memorize a spreadsheet of a billion combos like YuGiOh.
>play with a fun deck>edit deck to try and make it better>it's worse>change it back>forgot what I put in/took out>do what I remember >it's worse than what it started atfuck, now I'm going to spend another week until I stumble back to where I had started
>>97457568Here, I'll save you to the trouble and post the one decent card in white that can scry consistently. It's okay to admit when you are wrong by the way! We all know the only actually powerful topdeck manipulation cards you can run in boros are Scroll Rack and Top. Excellent bait responses by the way, would reply again in the next thread maybe.
>>97457526aww shit, I can't believe I've forgotten about them thentime to replay Bloodborne again
>>97457496no, but he likes the game in a different way than you like the gamedespite being new, he's looked at cards and acquired strong cards and made powerful decks with themyou are just playing and building with what you have
>>97455852You lost the argument immediately when you appealed to the authority of fucking EDHrec, and the fucking top 100 as proof of power.Arabella, Ragost and Feather are higher ranked than Winota and Balloon man despite the latter being CEDH commanders and the former being only 3s or very low 4 viable.Nelly Borca is 9th highest ranked boros commander on the site as a whole and she's a dogshit precon face commander.Why is she so high ?Because a billion retards uploaded the precon deck list whole sale or brew ideas to modify the precon, not because she's a powerful fucking commander.People like you are the reason the vast majority of the community actually dislike EDHrec, retards like (you) take it as gospel despite not knowimg the base fundamentals of how the site works, which is, an aggregate site pulling usage data of cards from decklsts uploaded to it, not any actual ranking of power or viability.
>>97457584ygo by every metric is a simpler game than mtg and by posting your story you've basically outed yourself as a casual that has never grown despite their years playing the game and got overtaken instantly by a guy that used to play an even bigger baby game so you deserve all the derision you get
>>97457764nta but saying YGO is simpler really is reductive to the point of falsehood in current-era MtG where every single card is both setup and payoff in a way MUCH more visible than YGO cards.
>>97457822You dont even know mind over matter dont pretend you know how cedh works
>>97454607It includes most of 2023 as well you retard, not to mention plenty of UB shit came out in 2022/23, and it's obvious they were working on shit in '24/'25. Why spew bullshit when you didn't read the lawsuit you stupid faggot
>>97457830I'm not the same anon. cEDH itself could hardly be considered more complex than YGO when the primary deck to beat is literally just "good_cards.dek" and the majority of games end in a tie once someone realizes they can't win but they have enough interaction to decide a winner. Not to mention the skill level of the average cEDH player is, alarmingly, not much higher than the average EDH player which makes for a truly miserable experience in a lot of games.
>>97452491How does this work, i thought mana abilites dont go on the stack so how tf can you target it
>>97457759>Because a billion retards uploaded the precon deck list whole sale or brew ideas to modify the precon,This is why you have to take a critical eye with their recommendations. It will recommend a card that a billion retards threw in as good stuff, rather than a card selected by a good player who made a cohesive deck.
>>97457857you can't target the pyromancer ability, what happens is you cast return the favor targeting some other spell, paying for it with goggles mana, which lets you cast a copy of return (with the same modes) which you use to target return, giving you an arbitrary number of spell copies (you may stop this at any time by targeting the original spell)
>>97457847>I'm not the same anon. cEDH itself could hardly be considered more complex than YGO when the primary deck to beat is literally just "good_cards.dek" and the majority of games end in a tie once someone realizes they can't win but they have enough interaction to decide a winner. Not to mention the skill level of the average cEDH player is, alarmingly, not much higher than the average EDH player which makes for a truly miserable experience in a lot of games.And the best ygo deck is somehow not "good cards.dek"? Pfft get realYgofags wish they had a ffa format that would get off the ground but we dont even have to discuss cedh mtg vintage is still more complex than ygo
>>97457928Oh I'm sorry you just wanted to gloat you didn't want to actually discuss or consider your position.
>>97457932But enough about pretending that ygo is more complex than mtg
>>97456200No hes correct, strixhaven isnt ub
>>97457521it was me, I gaslit the other two into thinking you were a threat
>>97457991UW is an in universe version of a UB card (for example, the Street Fighter cards had UW equivalents, and Through the Omenpaths versus the Spiderman set). Strixhaven is in-universe, not UW.
>>97457928>Ygofags wish they had a ffa format that would get off the groundThis is just straight up true, my first thought when I got into commander was about the deck masters from the virtual world arc. Something like commander is sadly incompatible with Yu-Gi-Oh's rules
>>97457456Was his name Peter Cheng?
>>97458010Terrific used to mean terrible but now it means wonderfulUW is a branding of a failed series of cards but now it means the in house lore of wotc, UW vs UB has a nice ring to it and that's why everyone uses UW that way, sorry your autism can't accept that language evolves
>>97458050i think the anon is just shitposting, because he always throws a huge fit about it to the point of parody.
>>97458010That's what i said.
>>97458081UWfags are invariably mentally ill though, imagine demanding others to hate UB but never sell you on maro's UW
>>97458021>deck masters from the virtual world arcIt really was commander
>>97458101man youre just shitposting the other way.
>>97458110Telling the truth isnt shitpostingWhen was the last time you saw anyone here argue that mtg's writing is good
>>97458106It really was and I'll NEVER EVER have my cute little pookie Kuriboh build the rainbow bridge to allow my monsters to attack directly FUCK
>>97458119>mtg's writing isn't good>So we must completely annihilate it in order to become corporate multi-verse slop.I feel like this is far too extreme my man. I don't like the whole of MtG fiction, but to not only say it's ALL shit and that is should just be Crossover: The Card Game is ridiculous and just a shitposter opinion. And yes, I do like parts of MtG lore. Wanna ask me which?
>>97458142Nta but it's crazy and hilarious how WotC basically just thought cashing in on legacy consumers and brand recognition for decades with the absolutely bare minimum reinvestment into the IP would work and now they're scrambling to shore their dog shit new player outreach and retention with ub
>>97458142Is it the part where Ugin mates with Bolas?
>>97458142Nobody serious is asking that mtg completely eliminate UW because that would be ridiculous for a corpo to do, not even fortnite deleted its own ip out of existenceWith that said UB taking up +70% of the year is simply to be expected because UB just has stronger ip so it sells more, it is what it is
I like Theros a whole lot, I'm a mark for ancient greek fantasy settings. I'd really like the writing for mtg to be sharply better, but I also like some of the UB sets.In an ideal world we could have both.
>>97458170>their dog shit new player outreach and retention with ubDid they ever even have any? Honestly FF is the only set that brought perhaps 'new' players into mtg at my lgs and they weren't exactly new, just they play other games more than mtg. I saw one of them playing pauper last weekend.I highly doubt Atla or Spiderman got anyone into mtg. Maybe at best some collectors bought up some boosters. Dr. Who maybe got some people to dabble in commander with precons idk.
>>97458206>I highly doubt Atla or Spiderman got anyone into mtg.You'd be surprised
>>97458206the dnd set, and knowing lotr was on the way, got me into magic, and I did my homework to learn what the game was about once I figured I liked it enough to stick around for more.
>>97457363Was his whole deck Vegeta too?
>>97458206You'd be surprised. The majority of my regular group got into the game because of the 40k decks. Only one of them still plays his 40k deck but the rest have built a bunch of other decks since and still regularly play. These crossovers do sometimes work as that last push to get someone to try the game.
okay so if you are playing to win with powerful cards why aren't you playing cedh? if you want to play lower power then you can't pull shit like "game has gotta end sometime" because if you want to end the game you'd cards that do just that. handicapping yourself with lower power means you don't want to win that bad after all so.. either play bracket 1 jank or go to bracket 5. anything inbetween is just powerlevel angleshooting
Awful bait
>>97458297Yeah I don't get it. We have the same 4-5 people who just reiterate the same 4-5 bait "arguments" every thread.
Imagine never having read Goldilocks and the Three Bears.
>food analogy
>Literary analogy
>angleshooting
>shitbaiting
>green
When would (You) take out Good cards, that aren't especially synergistic, from a pet-tier deck?My mono-B Lili discard deck has a Tergrid and a Bolas's Citadel. They're always good when they come out, but they feel a little out of place. I don't want everyone's Evolving Wilds, my god.
>food analogizin'>no game playin'>literature referencin'>brothers' war wankin'>proxy masturbatin'>tabletop sim playin'>angle shootin'>bracket abusin'>'tha'-ne'ar-happinin''>concession acceptin'>terminology misusin'>toski postin'>yugioh anime watchin'>cEDH wannabe>samepostin'>unemployed>alter makin'>UB unapprovin'>thread question ignorin'>simic playin'>youtube content farm providin'>gay bolas porn watchin'off topic argument starterand I bet you stink too
america! fuck yeah!
>tired of the arms race of my pod>the guys are not even good/smart about their card choices, pure netdecking sweatlording>our pod that used to be of chill battlcruisers becomes an autistic nightmare (Teysa doing gorillion triggers and taking 20 minutes a turn, Azula one-shotting someone in turn 4-5 with 100% consistency, that fucking spacecraft from EoE also taking 20 minute turns while ramping 4732993 mana and doing nothing with it, absolutely miserable overall)>I used to play a go wide artifact deck with Emry, no infinites, no 20 minute turns, just a lot of artifact tutoring and Simulacrum Synthesizer shenanigans, literally a mono blue deck that wins attacking with giant constructsI will now become the cancer (or the cure). Added brain freeze, aetherflux reservoir, lab man and thoracle to the deck. In a perfect scenario im ending the game in turn 3, 4 at most. I will show those retards what real degeneration is.
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