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>>97454254>TQI don't want Lessons or Learn, they're already ruining Standard just with the cards from Avatar.
>>97454280Loot is watching
What this says about our game, fellow Magic players?
>>97454282I honestly don't think Izzet Lessons really works with Learn considering it wants to draw all the lessons and start using them as soon as possible. Putting them in the sideboard and then drawing them with the Learn cards sounds like an extra layer of effort that will if anything slow it down.
>>97454280Will they make a functional reprint of Mentor's Guidance that just replaces Shaman with Sorceror?
>>97454280So normal Liliana is desparked so she'll just be a Legendary Creature, right? But it seems like we'll be getting a White Liliana that will probably be a Planeswalker.
>Lorwyn just out>We already know TMNT, Strixhaven AND Marvel cardsI'm so tired boss...
>>97454291Eh. It's not like anyone cared about the card and "spellcaster batch tribal" isn't the most exciting of concepts.
>>97454299We don't know if White Lili is also desparked or not. Could be some other shit, for all we know.
This dumbass Alchemy card is the most Hearthstone-y design they've made.
>>97454254surprise surprise a new white is a blue card in disguise
>>97454317nah that's this
>>97454317I mean it's essentially just Yogg-Saron, so yeah.
>>97454303need to shake out the fake whales that're screwing with real whale market control
>>97454287Who is that guy in red behind Beast?
>wow, anon, i thought you were a real collector, but you only have one out of three of this IP's secret lairs, one out of four of its scene boxes, no fracture foils and you don't even have the enterprise dungeon tokens
>>97454362I genuinely can't tell. Not immediately familiar and the outfit doesn't have any real standout design features.
>>97454362I think it's Shang-Chi.
how long, realistically speaking, before they reset the game with a thinly-veiled format changesurely this can't continue. do they really want legacy tournaments being nothing but random IP slop?
>>97454422Who the fuck gives a shit about Legacy?
>>97454422In this new Magic version you dream about anon... Can I have purple finally?
>>97454422Why would they care? They get to sell cards that even people playing timeless formats have to buy, that's their intent.
>>97454395Oh yeah it probably is. Skin tone kinda threw me but I guess it's just lighting.
>TQmore magecraft cards like this guy
>>97454451If this motherfucker isnt a Monk i'm going to shit bricks
>>97454422>surely this can't continue.this train has no breaks, anoneither they "succeed" (every set is literally the same cards with a different piece of media painted over them, it always sells well, and they get all kinds of deals) or it crashes and burns while the execs cash out
>>97454465Human Monk Hero probably.
>TQAt least 1 monk.
>>97454422friendly reminder you all made this possible... and you will miss this shit schedule in 2027, trust me.
shareholdersisters...
>>97454317It lacks the weird half-rules half-flavor text like that card that says "His wife is missing! He last saw her randomly shuffled into your deck!"
>>97454473My greatest hope for Reality Fracture is that Jace fucking diesMy greatest fear for Reality Fracture is that Jace fucking dies and all the art and flavor text treats it as something tragic
>>97454422Anon, they don't care about anything that isn't Commander.
>>97454473Wow, a completely empty calendar until October. What a bold move by Wizards.
>>97454473
>>97454601>have a normal schedule>shareholders bitch about not making enough money>have a fast schedule>shareholders bitch about making too much moneyis there any way to win around these fags
>>97454680The next logical step to please everyone is keep the same ridiculous 6-7 sets a year release schedule, but make them all limited print runs.
>>97454680>making too much moneyBut they're not making money. You can read "overprinting" like "oversaturating"
>>97454705>Gacha boosters AND artificial FOMOOh yeah, this is the next evolution.
if you can tell me how flood the market could be a good tactic specially when your real customer player base already has the biggest case of product fatigue ever seen... Hasbro is squeezing magic for all is worth but that doesnt mean is a succesful and well done business practice.
>>97454626Most HS cards don't do that. Instead they just have actual rules text in parentheses, which is stupid.
>>97454254>What would you like to see in Secrets of Strixhaven?Quintorius with a human boyfriend
playpremodern
>>97454855too poorim playing pauper
>>97454254>What would you like to see in Secrets of Strixhaven?I'd like to see the founder dragons actually do something in the story. They might as well be dead for all the presence they have on the plane - they do nothing so they won't be missed. I mean what, they ignored the demon avatar and the phyrexian invasion was just the school and the professors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KZ7LmXnbSAnew aids just dropped
>turn 4 reanimate 30 power, wrath your board and kill you>turn 4 play omniscience, combo off and pay my entire deck for free to kill you>turn 4 craterhoof behemoth with 8 creatures on the battlefield to kill youwho the fuck finds this shit fun
>>97454913omni combo is fucking dead m8. there are too moving pieces for it to be reliable now.
>>97454254>What would you like to see in Secrets of Strixhaven?Harry Potter licensed tie in cards.It'd never happen but the meltdown would be so delightful. They'd finally get me to use some UB cards.
>>97454926>ub bad unless it's an IP i like!you're just as much of a piggie as the rest.
>>97454924Fine, then sub that one out for>turn 4 loop my appa and aang for free endlessly, creating infinite creatures and kill you
>>97454913standard is just 2018 legacy without duals now, get with the times grandpa
>>97454926As much as trannies hate Rowling, they still lap up Harry Potter trash.
>>97454913The Play Design team and its consequences have been a disaster for the Standard format.
>>97454286Reality Fracture Loot is the Lord of the Tit, though so...
>>97454933:)>>97454939But they'll cry about it all the way. Imagine all the mainstream news articles about the righteous empowered "women" boycotting the evil brand! I love to watch Hasbro get raked in the press.
>>97454601>>97454680Anon this is just the shareholders applying pressure (again) to try to spin WotC away from Hasbro.
>>97454955I mean can people really blame them? Hasbro is basically just a gigantic money burning pit right now, isn't it?
>>97454926Keep an eye on Secret Lair around when Strixhaven 2 comes out then
I still go through my old binders of cards that aren't really worth selling, and I can't believe how far we've fallen. UW UB, it doesn't even matter when the art has become bland homogenized crap all around. The old stuff had so much more soul, something that nobody can bring back.
I fucking love pauperI just wish the time control on MTGO was longer than 25 minutesSincerely, Tron player.
>>97454967The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost.
>>97454254>TQRest of the Lorwyn creature tribe cycle/mechanic color cycle. Another Escape titan not powercrept keep it fun. Harvard Potter Hagworts' School for Kids Who Can't Read Good lose its DEI funding. More white kids and I don't mean black creatures on white cards.
>>97455141Saw people at 30 don't know if that was a specific tourney but pauper youtube channel had league of that.
>>97455255leagues on mtgo are 25 minutes which is not ideal when game 1 can take 16 to 18 of those minutes.
>>97454967>>97455150nostalgia fags are the worst fucking postersjust die already you fucking boomersno one fucking asked
>>97454465Isn't he a warrior?
>>97455150This island isnt even good btw your taste is bad and your an old npc.
>>97454812Lorehold will help turn Quintorius's mistakes into miracles.
Why did they pick Island instead of Ocean anyway? Most Island cards don't even show an actual Island.
>>97455384What am I looking at.
>>97454913Kikes that hate White. Notice how everyone complains every year about nonwhite cards but never does anything to protest against JOTC kikes and their hate.
>>97455401Mistakes into miracles :)
>>97455459truthnuke
>>97455353>Nostalgia fa->AAAHHH AAAAAHHHHHHHHH MY ARMS
>>97455586Based arm liberator.
>>97454317>expansionThey're called Sets, WotC.Fucking retards I swear.
>>97455395because oceans are oceans, not landsan island, by definition, is land
>>97455690Zoomer detected
I ordered stuff for eight new decks weeks ago. 90% of it arrived within days. The rest is still missing. Now I'm sitting here with eight unfinished decks and deliberate if I just order the stuff again just to be done with it. This is goddamn awful.
>>97454254>TQI think the idea of the Tarkir Elders getting shooped away to Strixhaven/Arcavios is dumb but at least I'd get to see my nigga Slumgar.
>>97455797Yeah, that's what I said. Are you stupid or something?
Yeah, that's what I said. Are you stupid or something?
>>97455395>Most Island cards don't even show an actual IslandBold claim, over half you say? Quickly, everyone spam the thread with your favorite basic Islands featuring actual islands.
>>97454913By powercreeping the heck of the game wotc makes sure pay pigs continue consuming new stuff to keep their decks competitive.Morons of the coast would lose all their designers if consumers had any resemblance of pride or good sense.
>>97454254>TQmore pests tech.
>>97455353
>>97454335Wow that is some incomprehensible text
>>97454317It makes me nostalgic for Apocalypse Chime so I like it.
>>97455586The flavor text is a Marvel tier quip but the fact that it's coming out of a fucked up zombie cyborg who looks like he should just be going "UHHRGH BRAINS" makes it actually funny
>>97454422Wizards is terrified of premodern because it shows that a format can be successful even if they aren't involved. Unlike EDH, they are unable to inject anything into premodern to ruin it. "But what about the inevitible premodern horizons set!"; if such a thing were to be printed, a format in which it's legal would no longer be premodern. Maro claims that there's not enough demand for a format that excludes UB yet is unable to prove any of the numbers that he talks about.Legacy is screwed anyway. Every successful non-combo deck, and even then a few combo ones, plays all new creatures with mostly old spells. People then whine about the old spells being too powerful when the issue is the threats they're backing (see Entomb ban), so they ban the old cards and keep printing new broken creatures. Eternal formats were more fun when decks existed by coincidence - Oops all spells is a great example of this - and cards were run because they did something very specific that no other card could do.The game, and the format, used to take skill. Now you just bash your face on the keyboard and hope Tamiyo or one of your other broken snowballing threats gets you there.
>>97454280At least, Kasmina has a bust.Wrenn is a flatie.https://scryfall.com/search?q=wrenn&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
When will there be a monogreen angel? A true angel; no shapeshifter or changeling shenanigans.
>>97456566Less than a tenth of angels are monocolor that exclude white, and only only 8 exist that also exclude black. There's four artifacts, one blue illusion, and three red ones that are dragons in all but name. If they didn't do it already with Sigarda across four cards, I don't see them doing it ever.
Mtg is doing a marvel superheroes set? WHY?!?
>>97456606Because they hate you, anon.
>>97456420ez for burn
>>97456606>>97456627someone must truly hate me for that to happenhttps://scryfall.com/card/msc/2/mister-fantasticoh god, why have you forsaken me?!?
>>97456566Either UB set or some buddhist set.
>>97454601That's a pretty old news, desu. But two years ago it was like one small shareholder and nowadays more of them noticed the stink?Tl;dr is that it's not about number of designed sets or anything like that per say but number of physically printed cards. Apparently WoTC has entire warehouses of shit that they cannot sell, Literal walls of waste paper.
>>97456606Because line must go UP.I can't wait to see a faggot doing a deck with Simone and this abomination lmao.
>>97456707Reed Richards and mtg don't gel
>>97456707>>>97454601>Vigilance, reach for mono blue casting cost>4 color ability to make it a 5 color slop commanderI expected nothing and I'm still dissapointed.
>>97456855I'm a retard, it's 4 color commander slop. Still fucking awful. I hope the marvel set flops as hard as She Hulk, The Marvels, The Eternals et al.
>>97456818Who? Are these actually Marvel Comics characters?
>>97456818Why do I keep seeing this posted? Is it cuz it's an actually good card but it's fucking hideous looking?
>>97456858>4 color commanderWell he is from the FANTASTIC FOURWhere's SUE?
>>97456890>it's an actually good cardno, it isn't.It's an over-stuffed card
>the thread will be polluted by turtles and superhero shit for several months>then sci-fi garbage will replace itwe are fucking cooked
>They're making Chandra an Indian nowOh I hope that lawsuit fucking wrecks WotC.
>zero impact on any formatLorwyn sissies?
>>97457027TMNT isn't looking much better. Tokka & Razhar are a decent sideboard card and....well, that's about it.
>>97457024Kaladesh was already India
>>97457027>>97457071And that's a good thing. Standard has been powercreeped enough as is.
>>97454422Last chance was historic but wotc pumped it full of outside of format cards.>>97454441The six mana is colorless and the symbol is the anus
You know, it's genuinely baffling how I can look at a modern Magic card, that's a fucking 1-drop, and think to myself"This is not just a YuGiOh card, this is an entire YuGiOh archetype printed on one creature. It does all the setup and payoff by itself and that payoff wins the game. At-least in YuGiOh the boss monster will usually ask you to do something with other cards to summon it."
>>97454855Too whiteI'm playing cube
>>97457101fine in a format without brainstorm and where decks run low mana removal
>>97454871>too poorthe less money you spend on cards the richer you are
>>97457087Oh, I'm not complaining. There were a few anons who were saying how pushed it was and man are they ever wrong. Constant spoiler season has cooked what little card evaluation skills people had.
>>97457101It's because Commander is singleton, anon. This encourages designs that "do everything" in one card. This has been going on for a few years. Pic related ramps, draws cards, stabilizes the board and is a threat that ends the game, all in one card. Fable of the Mirror Breaker ramps, smooths your hand and is a threat, all in one card. Bankbuster, draws cards, ramps and is a threat, all in one card. As you can see these designs can be highly problematic in 1v1 60-card Magic. Not that they seem to care.
>>97457101I want baby PWs in Standard.
>>97454254>What would you like to see in Secrets of Strixhaven?These five.
>>97455785what's the fucking point of ordering cards from the internetit's a tcgtrading is supposed to be the whole pointwe all agreed short-circuiting the central loop was a bad idea when Diablo 3 auction house did it, didn't we?
>>97457217Enjoy your worthless bulk and retards trying to get one over you while haggling.
>>97456606Commander is the end of Magic. No other TCG can compete with commander's popularity, and commanderfags have already proven they will accept whatever slop WotC injects into the game. Every decision WotC makes about the game is to appease commander players, and it is ALWAYS to the detriment of non-commander formats. Some busted ass shit that was designed around there being 4+ players? Its now rotated Legacy (again). Unsets being made black-bordered? They need to be so I can run my heckin attractions deck in my pod. 50% of the rares in a Standard set being build-around Legends that suck complete cock outside of commander? Commander. LD/MLD/Mana denial no longer viable strategies? Commander players find them unfun. UB is also because of Commander, when WotC realized they could ride the EDH gravytrain and turn every popular character from any IP into a commander.
>>97457288The rise of commander was also the death of mono white.Coincidence? I think not
The Hobbit is gonna be SOULFUL and save magic
>can't redirect Ugin's bullshit exile to himself big sad
>TMNT looks kino>Strixhaven looks kino>Marvel looks ok>Star Trek looks kinoSeems like a good year for us, my fellow duelists
>>97457393That role is for /ourguy/ Jean Luc Picard, captain of the Enterprise, anon. He and the Stark Trek set will make your shitty game relevant again and save Magic for us all!
>>97457389this post is anti-semitic
