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Gone on for far too long, its another over produced, under printed edition Board Games General

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TQ:
What long standing series needs to be put out to pasture?

What series was cut down too soon?

What game has the perfect offering of expansion content?
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>>97454829
I wish I'd played enough board games last year to have had a top 9 to contribute.
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I found a friendly group at my local hub and I played Modern Art for the first time. It was my first Knizia game. Seemed cool!
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>>97454829
>What long standing series needs to be put out to pasture?
Arkham Horror. It's obscene and it fills so much shelf space at stores.
>What series was cut down too soon?
Chad Jensen.
>inb4 series
>What game has the perfect offering of expansion content?
Amusingly, I'm going to say COIN. It's hard to point to a bad one, perhaps Falling Sky or Red Dust Rebellion? And even then you still get new mechanics in each new release that work. Are any of the 13 games redundant? All of them seem to be doing something different enough to justify existing.
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>>97454895
You could have left some spots blank.
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>>97454985
Back up this slur on Falling Sky's honor with facts, or remain forever silent, knave.
COIN's more of a series than a single game with expansions anyway.
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>>97454985
Red dust is bad because of its designer. And I would love to get the behind the scenes reasons why they gave the keys to him when his only relevancy is doing stupid 3 minute youtube. Even his designer diaries were insultingly bad. And then on top of it the first scifi version being trusted like that. What a stupid ass risk for them to take , I dont get the logic
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>>97455092
>GMT
>quality control
lol that company is literally nothing if Herman and Chad and Volko didn't work with them.
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Yesterday I went to the local boardgame club for the first time, we played a 4p el grande (which I won by 4 point after not being in the lead for the entire game) and a 5p up or down (which I finished last). I'll have to pay 35 eurobuck for the registration fees but it looks like it's my best shot to find people to play with regularly
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>>97455656
I would also argue simonitch is carrying them hard lately with accessible, logical, relevant designs.

So much of their recent releases are just bad. I dont have the words for it ,but like games that dont execute well at all, and bad value. Unconditional surrender, seljuk, hubris (lol that designer) , fighting formations... Like what are those games even doing. Then theres the decision to just start making these ridiculous mega packs for everything. Like no, fuck you for bundling three games together so I get fucked on shipping and have to pay like 200+ usd in local currency to bail out your poor business running skills and inabiliy to manage risk. letting the pred run the newsletter is hilarious content
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>>97455656
>without their 3 best designers they're nothing
Is there a company you COULDN'T make this dumb shit post about?
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>>97457463
You think you're being clever but historical wargaming is a very different world than your Wehlre Lucerda whatever stuff is jerked off lately.

The big companies very much have a roster of designers for decades and when they freelance or are allowed to take a design elsewhere it is considered a big deal.

When volkos (I think) pirate game got pulled from GMTs p500 2 years ago they made sure when it got picked up again they advertised the competitor on their newsletter that he was going to release under.

Or tldr, most boardgaming is like golf or racing sports team for personnel importance, wargaming is like the nba or nhl. And this whole post is ignoring all the reasons GMT is problematic and very much is shockingly somehow still afloat but I dont want to trigger the anon from last night
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>>97454829
Amazing op pic, kek
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>>97456668
>up or down (which I finished last)
I don't know what the fuck you're supposed to do in that game anon. The best I've ever done is second place by picking colors no one else wanted but the guy who got first that game wasn't doing that.
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>>97457769
I think you're supposed to pick 1 high and 1 low starting number then use the third column as flex but I honestly refuse to use my brain and think too much for lightweight fillers
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Trio is actually pretty good
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>>97457920
I'm not going to buy it but I wouldn't turn down an offer to play it either.
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>>97457541
That's a lot of text to admit you can't answer the question. I'll just go ahead and do it then, no, there isn't a game publisher out there who would be in good shape if you took their top 3 designers out of the catalog. What was your point?
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great game night last night lads
>regicide
>dungeon fighter 1d8 edition
>things in rings
>grand austria hotel
>dice town
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>>97457541
>problematic
>>>/tumblr/
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>>97457541
>all the reasons GMT is problematic
name them
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>>97458369
We do this weekly here. Why even bother if multiple anons just bitch and moan when we talk about anything deeper than buying games or basic strategies for games. I come so infrequently because especially during autosage its fucking awful. And GMT should be common knowledge at this point

Im not moralizing any of this, its just facts out there people feel strongly either way about. Convicted child sex offender cofounder. Company says we will take him out of the public facing roles. Then never does. Lets him host the PR, the newsletters, and still make games and be the face. Their behaviour in response to tariffs. Finally not screwing over international customers with p500, but instead officially partnering with stores who refuse to stock products actually causing more stock issues in different countries than before. Questionable designers. Absolutely fucking over the two dudes doing Hannibal whose wives both died during the development of the game which no shit had impacts on their ability to put it out. Game quality drops: Men of Iron normandy scenario quality and diversity being awful, Italy 43 map quality noticeably dropping from salerno. Intentionally forcing games to sit idle in the pipeline for insane reasons: Henry and The Pure Land should have been out over a year ago! Cost cutting by forcing you to buy multipack bundles as the only option for things like C&C, conventions being pushed all the time but you literally cannot even get a game there if you go and arent friends with designers and preplanned with them. Imagine booking a hotel, going to a con, and then just standing around watching dudes play because theres literally no open tables and no staff running open tables

Do you need more? I can keep going. Caveat, Italy 43 and the mounted map are currently unboxed on my table, I still can say they're shitheads going downhill fast. Like this general
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What do you guys think of chocolate whores
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>>97454829
No good answers to any of those questions except there has never been a good expansion I have experienced. They all add more crap that isn't tested as well and breaks the original game.
My game group's tastes tends to move around a bit so we don't even do series really.
Race for the Galaxy's expansions were the least bad I've experienced and could be fun but honestly didn't work well if you only used one of them and made the game very focused on that token that made you win, forget what it was called but basically having it meant it was easier to keep having it and made you win.
Looking for dice games like Age of War though. Anyone find something that has similar amounts of rng and custom dice?
>they reprinted it as Risk
huh. Ok.
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>>97458553
Didn't they just ask for more money in response to the tariffs? Was there something weasely about it?
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Anons is ARCS good on itself? It looks like a fun game, but i find it worrying that the expansion costs more than the base game. Is it worth going for the base game if I know I won't be getting an expansion any time soon?
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>>97458589
I like the base game but I don't like the expansions. And I prefer it at 2p. I don't hate it at higher player counts but it's one of those games where being to the left of the worst player is rewarded more than being the best player.
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>>97458631
I only have the base game and its fantastic
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>>97458589
If you like Cacao I think you would like Lanterns.
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>>97458553
You’ve been shitting up threads for like the past two weeks with this. Either stop posting about it like you’ve threatened to numerous times or make a schizo image you can post instead of getting worked up when someone says they enjoy a GMT game. People don’t want to read your walls of text (as you’ve already ascertained) and it doesn’t seem like it’s good for you to be writing them
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>>97458770
>Caveat, Italy 43 and the mounted map are currently unboxed on my table
NTA, but maybe if trolls like you tried just ignoring things that triggered you instead of ignoring it but still shitposting the general wouldn't be so insufferable lately? Give it a shot?

>>97458632
I agree with this. I think the base game is fun for what it is, I think 3 is better than 2 for me, but I can see the appeal in two. I think it really depends the allure of the game for each person at the table. The expansions I think go away from the core ideas too much and arent really fun or interesting
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>>97458770
>past two weeks
Search for GMT + sex offender/pedo in the archive to see how long he's been waging this crusade while no one else cares.
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>>97458631
Arcs with and without the expansion are 2 completely different experiences, however I think it was smart to cut out all the shit and make a cheaper base game, since its more approachable and honestly, its fantastic.

Dont worry about the expansion, you probably couldn't play a 9 hour version of the game anyways.



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