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>>97459540
Rasalhague fucking hated Mercernaries and merging with a Clan didn't really help that.
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What if we....make tech that isnt just a side grade!?
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>>97459639
>>97459647
I was mostly wondering because somehow mercs get access to Rogue Bears by ilClan. The only way I can think of them getting them is by Salvage.
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Is there a Battletech character equivalent of pic related when it comes to mechs?
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The fairy of specific and arbitrary curses casts a powerful hex upon you.
If you were only allowed to choose from one weight class for mechs for the rest of your life, which one would it be?
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>>97459680
How about you stop talking fucking sense?
>>97459687
No clue but I suspect Sea Fox shenanigans are involved if true.
>>97459695
Medium
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>>97459695
Ooh, toughie. Medium if only IS. Woth Clanners, Heavy.
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>>97458873
>>97459237

Fine, Marauder BA isnt available until Dark Age anyways. But Longinus are! Behold my Century+1 Emotional Support Contubernium
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So what's your usual list building method?
>step 1: pick one of my favorite assaults, usually something with AC20 or some other comparable close range knock out power
>step 2: pick one of my favorite heavies, usually a LRM boat to make up for the assault's short range
>step 3: pick a medium with a similar speed (usually one hex more) than the assault and some medium range weapons to tail the assault
>spend the remaining points on either a fast light that will try to kick enemies or something with either LRM or PPC
4/5 all the time
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>>97459717
Dominions Divided has the Rogue Bear and Wraith listed as available for mercs, which does suggest either salvage or maybe somehow the Sea Foxes managed to pull off an absurd trade deal. The Rogue Bear being pretty rare and the Wraith being relatively more available. For reference, the Thunderbird (Upgrade) is potentially being sold by the Dracs and is relatively rare, but mathematically twice as available as the Rogue Bear, despite being significantly more expensive.
The Rogue Bear and Wraith not being available to mercs in Tamar Rising does make me think that the Rogue Bears aren't being sold directly from manufacturer.
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>>97459767
I've always been an orbat autist so I'll build one based off of a real unit's organization

Or I'll have an idea for a particular tactic and throw in appropriate mechs

Or I'll roll with a fun lance in MW then rebuild it for tt
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>>97459639
They hated mercenaries because they got shafted by poorly worded contracts, but it's not like they hate them on a philosophical level. They liked the few mercenaries who didn't take advantage of the open ended discretionary clause.
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>>97459767
For the most part it's
>step 1: have a faction I want to use because it piqued my interest
>step 2: open mul and build a unit based on what I have already painted for them or am willing to get and paint

Sometimes step 1 is a mech instead, then I'll figure out where I want to put that mech and build a starting lance for it to fit in. Most of my forces are MUL compliant because I like the shorthand fluff accuracy. Sometimes I'll throw in salvage or some oddball stuff with an outline of a story to explain it to myself.
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>>97459767
Sometimes I just pick a RAT I like the look of, usually one with mechs I rarely use, roll for random units and then roll for skills based on the random skills table from total warfare. Just to give me something different to try.
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>>97459787
But are they willing to sell BA to mercs is the weird question.
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Anyone know what Battletech is like in areas like Japan, Eastern Europe, and the like? Those two examples because of how big Mecha is in Japan, and Eastern Europe because when they had gotten fully underway with recovery from the Soviet exploitation, FASA had been falling apart which limits nostalgia for those eras compared to the US.
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Are there any Battletech novels, or series that lean more into… comedy than the usual themes? Maybe even satire?

And I mean intended comedy, like it’s supposed to be funny, not “so awful it becomes a comedy” type series.
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>sexual exploitation and a political system that favors one sex over the other?
>based!
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>>97459255
We need superheavy mech bays and light mech bays.
For being the most important pieces of military equipment in the setting the facilities for mechs are being very neglected.
A light mech bay would allow to make small craft mech droppers.
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>>97460032
I hate it when tourists leave trash behind.
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>>97459646
It looks nice.

Here’s my latest…
And I swear to GOD after I finish the Viper I am goddamn DONE with the white paint scheme! It’s takes three layers to get and beyond the sheer tedium, there’s the risk of details getting lost under the layers and the touch-ups.
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>>97459767
I usually build even my donutsteel units around specific themes, so I just follow that. One merc unit specifically uses cheap, easy to maintain mechs, another uses Royal designs since some of them come back during the Dark Age - shit like that. If I'm building a House unit, then I just troll over the MUL till I've got a couple mechs I like.
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>>97460092
It looks good tho - what's your process? White never looks good when I paint it.
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I just want to know how long ago it was this general died? Was it when the unique id user was removed? Because watching Manic argue with himself is the most insane thing I have ever seen on this site.
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>>97460114
… I use a black primer, then it’s a light grey base, then an off-white very light grey heavy dry brush, then the very white dry brush.

Since it’s dry brushing each layer on, those will show through more like shadows than outright holidays or missed spots.
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Can you hot load artemis lrm? To make it a poor man's clan LRM.
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>>97460092
Looks great anon
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I like the official CGL sculpts but the mold lines make me scream at times
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>>97460032

Holy shit, that's disgustingly cringeworthy.

>>97460208

Yes. TO:R, pg 101.
>"Equipment that modifies the cluster roll such as Artemis IV, TAG, and Narc still works with hot loaded missiles and adds its modifier as normal."
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>>97460337
They're not as hard to clean up as people seem to think if you're willing to put a proper knife to them, but they are a little frustrating.
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>>97460351
Do you have no appreciation for low quality rage bait?
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Sup /btg/
Because I'm retarded, I'm looking at making a custom mech.
I've already figured out what I want as far as components and suchlike and its legal, but I've been agonizing over what I want it to look like.
At the moment, my best guess (and probably what I'm going to convert from) is a Linebacker torso. File the missile pod doors off and fill in the LRM5 middle dot to give it the eight SRM ports it needs. I was going to replace the arms with Thug ones because I wanted to emphasize the LL in each arm, but it must have hands. I was also pondering swapping out the Linebacker legs with the Thug ones as well.

It is specifically meant to be a 'simple' mech, so the angular torso of the Linebacker fits pretty well and has the missile ports for the SRM's almost ready to go, but it does need to have pretty meaty arms. (Its designed as a 70t heavy) and the initial version is straight combat, but the second version is specifically going to be a combat engineering mech with a Mattock shaped hatchet in the left hand and hopefully an LBX10 in the right arm.

Thoughts? Any more ideas on mechs I could convert that might work better? I'd considered converting a Nightstar or Dragonfire but they're both a bit to 'smooth' and refined for the look, when this is a mech effectively made on the cheap for the periphery and merc units, much like the Merlin. For reference, Clan Invasion era and at the moment its worth just shy of 6 mil C-bills.
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Trying to use an LLM as a GM emulator. Try Battletech. Its really great in a lot of ways, but it completely shits the bed with mech loadouts. My lancemates Locust has 4 med lasers and the Commando has 6 SRM 6's. Its really irksome.
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>>97460429
Nightstar I think would be huge for that and lacks most of the weapons you're thinking of; a similar problem with the DGR. Your Thugbacker is probably your best bet.
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>>97459613
where's the thread title?
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>>97460351
ironic coming from a MoC player
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>>97460497
Sea Foxes sold it off to the highest bidder when we weren't looking.
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Well /btg/ IS or clan mech name designations?
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>>97460552
Considering by the Dark Age the Clans have all but given up on their own designations, IS?
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>>97459646
I've been playing in a campaign with some friends for about the past 9 months. Between contracts we picked up some clan tech and hired some Solahma elementals looking for a last hurrah.

I got the new stuff painted up over last weekend so they are ready for the first contract of 2026
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>>97455090
Clan mechs are expensive as fuck, couldn't even fit in a second point. Total came to 7009.
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Like with infantry, I assume there isn't a need for mercenary groups to go to hiring hall worlds to recruit assistant technicians if they need additional manpower for maintenance of vehicles, especially mechs?
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>>97460757
Didn't he use an M config?
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>>97460786
Did he? I just picked the first missile-less Summoner I found.
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>>97460497
Master Tactician hid it
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>>97460790
Yeah Legends retcons his design to look like this?
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>>97460377
Yeah, they aren't hard to clean...if you can find them all. "Is that a mold line, or just the edge of a panel" can be a bitch on some of their models.
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>>97460814
Well I'll take it, if it allows me to squeeze in another point of elementals, albeit both at 6/5 and the total going to 7041
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>>97460868
Hard cap is 7k bro. He won't go over. We saw that last thread. Going to have to keep adjusting to get down the final few BV.
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>>97460896
This'll have to do then. New total is 6979
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>>97460905
>6979
Nice. That's literally 1:1 with that quad lance.
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>>97460814
Canonically he still prefers the M config where the LRM is traded out for a Streak SRM 6, so odds are they were just lazy.
Then again it's an Omnimech, so you can easily just rationalize it as he was just using the Prime config at the time before settling on his preferred loadout.
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>>97460923
They fucked a bunch of models in Legends because they used what they already had made instead of making new ones. You see this with Adam Steiner not having an Axeman 2N either. This is also why they did inane shit like swapping DA Yen Lo Wang for a Black Knight, because they had the Black Knight 3D model done.

Honestly, doing that DA-style 3D model in sourcebook shit sickens me. It gives me bad flashbacks to 2003.
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I feel like a terrorist running this thing
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>>97459613
The ultimate tactical mech, is of course the Hunchback C.

CUAC20 carrier at 6/9. Damn tasty. Good armour, 50 t of fun. Neither too hot nor cold running. Good laser backups.

>waa waa waa no jumpjets waa waa
Cry harder. You cannot have EVERYTHING.

Hunchback C carries SUFFICIENT gun, SUFFICIENT tanky AND sufficient mobility...
Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.
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>>97461025
yeah but it uggo so me no likey
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>>97460988
It's like a slightly cheaper Behemoth
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>>97461025
Its a Blitzkrieg for faggots
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>>97460905
The WVR-7K is a fucking terrifying mech
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>>97461025
That sure is 9.7m Cbills for a Dark Age shitbox that doesn't reach outside of 12. Your mechteks are going to love you too.
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>>97461025
>sufficient
is insufficient.
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How broken is the Argo from HBStech? I mean it looks quite luxurious to live in
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>>97461255
Ludicrously so. It shatters everything that makes the setting actually consistent, and makes all of the limitations of travel pointless. It was created by secondary trannies who don't like or appreciate Battletech in the first place, and you shouldn't use it or acknowledge it in your own games.
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>>97461265
It's a one off star league white elephant that is not actually useful for the things normal organizations do with drop ships. You cannot possibly not know about the limitations on the multi collar system given in the source book.
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>>97461255
The canon version of it is a boondoggle that could be replaced by a towed space station (and you'd probably save money) or by just tasking a jumpship with a nice grav deck to stick around instead of continuing on. The Multi-dropship collar thing still requires the full amount of space on a jumpship and the Argo itself is so fat that it takes two slots alone. It's also mostly defenseless, slow, can't enter atmosphere, and couldn't really deploy anything even if it could. It's meant to park in an unexplored system while other dropships toodle around doing the exploration. They come back to the Argo for supplies and to not go stir crazy. The service is useful, but also something many jumpships can do already without wasting collars.
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>>97461251
Hbk iic
>defeated by an errant fart...
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>>97461265
It was under the supervision of Weisman. In the end the origin point wasn't all that far off from tertiaries either.
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>>97461251
HBK-5S vs HBK-IIC?
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>>97461255
When the game.came out the res8dent /playsgames/ name fags costed it out in the construction rules.

For the price of ONE argo dropship you can buy a fortress class instead... and all the mechs to fit in it.

It costs like almost 4 Billion c bills to make the argo as a dropper.

They rebuilt it out instead as a jump ship? Only costs a hundred million and change.
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When pirates hijack and loot a jumpship+attached cargo dropship(s) at the jump point, do they let the jumpship go or keep the ship as well?
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>farting
Spheriod dezgra propaganda. They are unable to locate their own Butte Hold let alone master the art of wind to defeat even a Solahma battlemech.
>>97461359
I know the 5S is more flexible tactically. But it does not have 2 UAC20s so I must follow my heart and chose the IIC. Apparently the IIC5 does twin LB20-X which I have not messed with but I want to now.
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>>97461399
>when bank robbers rob a bank, do they loot the money from the vault or do they take the vault with them as well?

There is no reason to attract that much heat unless you're looking to die. In fact, hitting a jumpship is a bad idea, you just ambush the drops/freighters when they pull away, or better yet when they land.
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>>97460905
>>97459765
Cool Added
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>>97461301
It's existence is sufficient to prove that the setting limitations aren't actually limitations at all. It's just as bad as hyperspace ramming in Star wars. The only solution is to not allow it to exist at all.
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>>97459687
By the ilClan era everything is such a grand clusterfuck that some Clans, or factions within them, are actually hiring mercenaries. I think everyone who hates on the ilClan era doesn't appreciate just how big the opportunities for /yourdudes/ is in the clownshow that is the late 3140s, early 3150s.
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>>97461025
i would replace one with the HBK-4SP
Call it heresy, but SRMS are solid, especially if you need infernos against a heavier mech to overheat em.
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What mechs use a HAG/40? As hilarious as it is to load an Urbanmech LAM with 2 tons of ammo, I kinda want to see something that it was actually designed for, and Sarna's page on it is pretty blank.
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>>97461522
They wrote out rules for the thing specifically for nasty little freaks like you that don't understand why the video game didn't add another ten seconds to the docking to a jumpship cutscene.
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>>97461265
You say that like that's one of the more extreme breaks when we know it is possible to stat it as >>97461362 mentioned, so it can exist as in the White Elephant form from a Star League cache.

Meanwhile, in the exact same game, there are missions where bombardment is said to be coming from Warships, and the game takes place in a large star nation that has just never appeared on any maps despite being right on the border of Canopus, the Capellans, and the Taurians. There's more egregious canon breaking issues than the Argo going on here.
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>>97461703
Regent
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>>97460587
How does one run a BT campaign? A friend and I are wanting to do the same but is it as simple as setting up 2-3 matches with objectives and then carrying damage and mechs over to the following matches?
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>>97460092
Start with white, use an oil wash at the end
Oh and don’t paint white for white, always use an off-white
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Do you build custom meks in the Meklab? Have you ever tried copying a broken build from MWO/MW5 and applying it to tabletop rules?
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>>97461922
Starting from the free stuff they offer here: https://battletech.com/game-downloads/

The Chaos Campaign PDF gives a basic rundown:
https://battletech.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/CAT35600_ChaosCampaign_Rulebook.pdf

The Mercenaries Box's Quick Start rules is the one with enough detail to run them, albeit in a fairly basic form:
https://battletech.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/BatttleTech-Mercenaries-Rulebook-1st-Print.pdf

Past that, you start getting into the paid content. The Hinterland box for Aces gives even more detail and a few streamlining things, but if you want the fullest depth, you want the Campaign Ops book.
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>>97461922
What makes a campaign a campaign is doing stuff like maintenance and salvage between battles with a continuity of units. Fighting three linked battles in a row could happen in a campaign, but it could also happen in a random one-off game. Salvaging crap off the field, tracking repairs, selling what you don't want and sometimes buying what's available to buy, negotiating contracts and figuring out what it's going to take to actually get to the next conflict, all that kind of stuff makes a campaign. Some campaign systems are more in-depth than others.
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>>97461975
Broken video game mechs don't translate to tabletop because you don't have a mouse and keyboard allowing you to focus on and delete components or counteract dice rolls. Likewise things like targeting computers go from worthless in the games to really nice to have on TT.
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>>97461991
Hypothetically, a targeting computer being able to auto aim for you would be pretty damn strong if it worked that way
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>>97461999
>>97461999
I mean, it sorta should, especially if paired with Pulse lasers that give aim assist to begin with, that way you can actually bring mechs up to canon speeds like the devs originally planned before getting frustrated over never hitting the Jenner.
Of course they wouldn't do that because they're total fags.
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>>97461976
If you want to eyeball what all of these mean, you can almost think of it in TTRPG terms. Mercenaries and the like are published campaigns, while the Campaign Ops book is the GM Guide giving you everything to make your own custom ones.

Hinterlands isn't obsoleted with Campaign Ops. as it's what introduces the Aces system that allows for the addition of Co-Op PvE via using a deck of cards to command NPCs. Does mainly function with Alpha Strike and need to engage with some jank to run it with Classic at the moment, but it can let you and your friend swap back and forth from having your companies fighting each other to fighting alongside each other.
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>>97461991
Broken designs don't translate to tabletop because ballistics suck. Tabletop should just adopt no-strings-attached rapid fire for all autocannons. Ultras can fire 3 times.
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>>97462126
The people beg for Solaris rules
CGL must make it real
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which mech is the cutest?
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>>97462185
How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man
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>>97462178
They blew their chance making the Essentials Box a clone of the Begginer's Box with a couple of minor arena gimmicks.
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>>97462187
you what mate
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>>97462192
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>>97462185
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>>97459966
No, but CGL has released fun products and adventures for April Fools and Halloween on a somewhat yearly basis.
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I am learning to appreciate the Clan's concept of combined arms. Picking five fast mechs and loading them up with elementals while tanks provide support then running said mechs close but just out of LoS of the enemy. It satisfies my tacticism.
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>>97462199
Absolutely doubtful those are semi-auto in any capacity
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>>97462405
You think they're bolt action gauss rifles?
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>>97460032
As a MOC fan, that image makes me angry. Especially the tranny shit, the MOC is the state least likely to allow mtf's rights.
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>>97462410
Considering the cycle and charge time, probably yeah
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>>97462418
Do you think there is a guy in there, moving the ammunition from storage into the breach by hand? Or is that process handled by a machine after a human pulls the trigger?
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>>97462246
>then running said mechs close but just out of LoS of the enemy
I can never understand the subtle nuances of zell.
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>>97462426
The mechtech never left the machine
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>>97462187
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>>97461358
Weisman doesn't have the best of reputation for thinking over half baked ideas before releasing them. The shit state that Battletech IP is in falls squarely on his shoulders.
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So we got the Griffin vs. Vindicator box and the Centurion vs. Rifleman box for introductory sets now. If they release another one, which 2 mechs do you guys want to see in the box?
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>>97462458
>>97462426

Careful gentlemen, this comedic skit is in danger of becoming british.
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>>97462565
Is the mechtech name Baldrick?
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>>97462570

No, but he's played by Eric Idle.
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>>97461399
Only if they don't have a JumpShip of their own, but need jump capability *now*. In that case, the crew would likely end up enslaved and the ship itself is whisked away to some periphery base to serve their needs.
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>>97462185
Panther. Mr. KittyMech over here is piloted by a serious, honor-obsessed whackjob, but you wouldn't know it from his face.
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>>97462565
NO NO NO! this conversation is over. it is too silly! no more, move along!
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>>97462602
Piloted by a cute ISF agent.
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>>97462677
DUN DUN DUN!
NO ONE EXPECTS THE KURITAN INQUISITION!
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>>97462426
No there is a little monkey wearing a tiny exoskeleton and a red fez cap named Fred who does that. You do feed him don't you?
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>>97462565
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Why don't mechs have more hand held equipment or weapons?
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>>97462752
There are handheld weapons but they aren't very good, to explain why they aren't widely used. The real answer is that it would needlessly complicate the build rules and unit choice.
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>>97462752
Same reason why everything past Jihad is all sidegrades, trying to preserve a shitty game balance. The handheld RL Board alone scared devs.
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>>97461707
I will white knight for NEA forever solely because he made a point of nuking the Argo, specifically, on the tabletop in that rangers campaign. Because fuck that piece of shit.
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>>97462807
One mech stood too close to the explosion.
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>>97462417
>the MOC is the state least likely to allow mtf's rights
Don't care. I choose to believe the memes. The MOC is the tranny faction and always will be. Should have gatekept your faction harder
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>>97462790
You mean the accordion of death?
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>>97462807
Did they have to roll secondary effects for all those mechs?
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>>97462833
Looks that way: archive.4plebs. org/tg/thread/84956835/#q84968794
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>>97459646
added the 3054 mechs to my Fox's Teeth roster
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>>97462931
What the fuck even are those? The second one from the left looks like an Incubus, but I don't even recognize the sculpt.
>Yes, I see the hopper and commando in the back, those aren't what I'm asking about
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>>97462942
I dunno some gay AC/10 hunchie and some gayer clan shit from the looks of it. Not sure what makes me madder a bad Hunchback or a 4/6 in a lance with a bunch of fast movers.
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>>97462942
left to right: Hollander, Stealth (not really but it was the only model I could find), Fireball, Dart
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>>97462947
Where did you find those models so I can make never to get them? Those look fucking nothing like what you're claiming they're supposed to be.
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So I went to watch Patlobar or whatever because of the gifs you nerds post occasionally, but it wasn't very good. Then I was in so random /a/ thread and learned there are movies and a series. I watched the series. Is it one of the movies you guys post clips of?
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>>97462980
The Hollander does if you squint. That Incubus looks like an Incubus or Vixen. I dont knbow the right name but I've seen the mech. I thiunk the last two are real mechs as well but they sure as shit aint a Fireball. The chonker on the end might be a Dart, I would have to see the art again. It looks way to big for a light though.
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>>97462677
>cute isf gf trying to honeypot you for davion state secrets
A man could dream
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>>97462807
I honestly thought someone had burnt a pizza and stuck it on the board for a second there.
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>>97463097
The other angle is better, but I understand. Doing it with good looking smoke won't hold up under travel conditions. I tried a nuke template once and the cotton just disintegrated the first time I took it anywhere. Much more sympathetic of using painted foam for the blast wave these days.
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So...how do lasers work in bt? Shouldn't a larger engine make the laser more powerful?
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>>97463167
>Much more sympathetic of using painted foam
Nah that's just an excuse. If you can't make something perfect quality the first time, you shouldn't try. There no excuse for not putting something photorealistic onto the table. Do it right or don't do it at all.
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>>97463198
>Shouldn't a larger engine make the laser more powerful?
No.
And they work via the principle of "fuck you these are the rules so deal with it."
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>>97462947
No seriously, where did you get those models?
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Anyone have a cool Naming scheme for a series of WoB-Built Protomechs? By that I mean Proto Chassis built by the WoB not just Clan Designs with Manei Domini wired in.
Tonnage Distribution follows this layout:
>6 Tons
>9 Tons
>12 Tons
>14 Tons
>17 Tons
>20 Tons (Quad)
The tonnages lean more towards the heavy end of things because the WoB wanted them to be compatible with Pods from their Omni-Equipment.
Yes this does mean that the Heaviest Design weighs the same as a Light Mech.
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>>97463221
I name custom protos after dead trannies since only a faggot actually runs that unit type. Fuck protos.
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>>97463232
Truly, protomechs belong in the same pit of shame as iATMs. If I see someone constantly trying to use them, I instantly know they're an insufferable faggot.
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I had a wild dream about MW6 taking place during the Jihad and it was a mission where you're pushing in with a large allied force to take back your home city on your home planet (where your family still survives) against the WoB and it's just a hectic mission of trying to defend multiple objectives while having a time limit to take back the city center or something, and just before you run out of time, allied reinforcements arrive as well as the wobbies suddently abandoning their positions and making one last charge
the comms officers gets all excited and tells you that you have the field, and blah blah blah go capture th- and then everything goes white
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>>97463250
>Davion proto-LAM armed with iATMs driven by a tranny as part of an MOC flagged mercenary unit
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>>97463282
>davion
>not autocannons
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>>97463167
Any anons have experience using nuclear weapons on the board? Just looked at some old forum post and the consensus was it’s too game breaking to be fun.
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>>97462805
Huh, I remember that, it was only last y-
>2022
Fuck me, time really does fly.
Still one of the best moments in these threads in recent years. I miss NEA's battles.
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>>97463310
>I miss NEA's battles.
Fuck you
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>>97463294
>the consensus was it’s too game breaking to be fun.
Anon, I...anon, ok look, they are SUPPOSED to be game breaking. Nukes aren't balanced. They're a statement. They're an exclamation point for a scenario or a campaign. You're <literally> playing wrong if you're even considering nukes and balance in the same sentence.
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>>97463294
The agreed on ruling is "campaign only" and then only as a pivotal event. The only exception are the demolition charges that I could see being used in a scenario involving one side trying to destroy key infrastructure or prototype/super heavy units guarded by the other.

>>97462813
The memes are false, the MOC is a heavily misandrist matriarchy. There is no way they are going to let men into their elite class. Think of them as TERF's. The entire state is basically Vegas crossed with JK Rowlings kind of people. But as a nation.
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>>97463337
>The agreed on ruling is "campaign only"
Gay. If it's not useful in blind pickup play it shouldn't exist. That's the only gameplay that actually matters since it's the only kind anyone plays
>buh, buh, but the namefags campaign
It doesn't even exist anymore. When was the last time NEA posted a campaign game? That's right. It's dead, because people don't play campaigns. Battletech is about lance sized engagements on 2 mapsheets at an LGS between strangers building to an imposed BV limit. That's the only Battletech experience that matters.
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>>97463356
You can bait better than that, come on.
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>>97463167
Aye can understand the trouble with travel and it sucks when you go to effort and it disassembles itself by the time you reach your destination. I think also its the colors really that make it look more like a stuffed crust pizza to me.
>>97463221
The Manei Domini vehicle lineup are named after spirits and ghosts. Just follow that as a naming convention.
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>>97463328
Makes sense
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>>97463356
I am very disappointed in you. You're better than this and the thread deserves a higher quality of bait.
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>>97460032
Most accurate meme yet
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Any of you ever have a dream that takes place in Battletech?

I had one last night where I was a khan of the Blood Spirits
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>>97463468
So you had a dream you were retarded?
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>>97463487
I guess. I was trying to fix the shortage of mechs but it was like everything kept failing.
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>>97461399
>When pirates hijack and loot a jumpship+attached cargo dropship(s) at the jump point, do they let the jumpship go or keep the ship as well?
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>>97462589
Didn't Redjack Ryan take Jumpship and all?

>>97463097
>I honestly thought someone had burnt a pizza and stuck it on the board for a second there.
No, it's a tree!
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>>97463356
>Battletech is about lance sized engagements on 2 mapsheets at an LGS between strangers building to an imposed BV limit. That's the only Battletech experience that matters.

Hello,

The above is essentially correct. While campaign play was officially supported under previous leadership, Catalyst Game Labs has elected not to continue this fundamentally unprofitable direction for the company. As Alpha Strike is a considerably more popular and successful branding of the BattleTech IP, campaign play has been permanently designated to the Alpha Strike line. Classic BattleTech will henceforth only receive updates for generic pickup play as we continue to phase an geriatric and overly complex ruleset out of production. The wild success of the Scouring Sands Campaign Box has confirmed this is the correct decision for the company.

If you consider yourself to be a campaign player, you should strongly consider updating your play experience to the far-superior Alpha Strike ruleset as soon as possible. Your Classic BattleTech campaign will soon no longer be support. Play Alpha Strike. Be on the right side of history for a change.

Thank you for your time,
-TCO
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>>97463533

It's probably important to note at this point that the very nice nuke template from GenCon 2011, shown here: >>97463533, died years ago. Certainly no later than 2016. The cotton just tore itself apart while in storage, and took most of the flock with it. Rebuilding it would nearly require starting over from zero, save for the footprint of the base itself. Assuming I still had it, which I don't think I do.

My original nuke template from 2009, here, >>97462807, not only survived storage until 2022 with nary a noticable scratch, but is in fact still in my basement, awaiting a deployment on another unsuspecting group of players. It's a *lot* less realistic, but it's still in one piece after nearly 2 decade. Which, surprisingly, counts for a lot.
>it's just DAP expanding spray foam over a wire armature.
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>>97463468
Movin' like Dracula, we get it back in blood.
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>>97463586
What an incredibly ugly paint scheme
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>>97463586
The bugs are back.
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>>97463573
Hey man, sorry if I've asked you before but you're the aerotech expert and my memory isn't what it used to be. When Tyra Miraborg and her flight lance first fought Clan aerospace fighters at Thule, were the Clanners in Visigoths, Jengizs or something else?
Hope you're doing well, it's been a while.
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>>97463597
This luger will send a Christian to Hell.
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>>97463586
why didn't the blood spirits just bail on the kluster when the vipers and adders were sperging out on each other?
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>>97463610
Not one of the writers pets
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>>97463610
They were moving their assets to the system they had discovered outside the Kluster, but the Adders eventually found them out and killed them. Though there's hints that by that time some of them had already evacuated the system. There's in-universe rumors that suggest they were sighted in the Periphery during the Dark Age, and some of them are implied to have ended up in the Green Ghosts to hang around with ex-Scorpion seekers, former WoBbies and descendants of lost RWR colonies (the Ghosts are pretty much the unit where dead factions go).
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>>97463609
I can't wait to curbstomp you in these dumb, ugly-ass Rick Owens shoes.
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What's the stupidest move you've made in a game that ultimately ended up working out, anons?
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>>97463640
Glock 34 shivered his timbers.
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Why was a mining mech of all things built with a fission engine? That just seems dumb as hell.
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>>97463653
Fusion powered mining laz0rs
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>>97463653
Where are you going to fuel up your ICE engine on a completely uninhabited airless rock Anon?
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>>97463652
I got the Midas touch, fuckbaw.
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>>97463661
Then maybe use a fusion engine and not a fucking radiological disaster waiting to happen. You cant tell me this thing is OSHA compliant.
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>>97463601

All good. I'm just about to rack out. Your question is actually more difficult to answer than you think. The Relevant passage is from Lethal Heritage; somewhere around Chapter 15. The Clan ASFs are never formally ID'd, and their weapons fire is described only in very general terms.

I personally think she was engaged by Jengiz's. The book goes out of its way to say that the clan fighters are built along the lines of a Stuka. That description includes bulky pods in the wings, a dome-shaped cockpit, and large forward canards. There is also an explicit mention of an SRM in the nose. That means that it's *probably* not a Visigoth, since there's no standard configuration of that ASF with a nose-mounted SRM. And the Jengiz C at least has one of those, and it otherwise closely matches the overall lines of a Stuka.

So I would guess Jengiz with a high degree of confidence, based solely on the novel passage. If there's other info elsewhere, I can't bring it to mind right now. Hope that helps.
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>>97463664
My diamonds come from the most horrific situations known to man.
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>>97463671
We're not MADE a money here, plus the Fusion Engine plant mysteriously exploded.
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>>97463677
Hmm conflict diamonds. add that to my mercenary list of dirty deeds to do dirt cheap.
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>>97463677
The Cuban link will turn a diamond tester into a pipe bomb.
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>>97463664
More like nurgles touch, thin your paints and control your brush.
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>>97463671
Periphery problems require Periphery solutions. Besides, the later variant uses FEs provided by Snow Raven anyway.
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>>97463673
That's kind of what I was thinking, I appreciate the response!
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>>97463687
You think OSHA gives a fuck about that? Dont come crying to me when their Regulatory Compliance Company hot drops on your rock.
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>>97463694
This looks like a periphery solution being a bogger issue that the problem it "solves".
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>>97463468
I had one where one guy was fucking with my models I think and pouring acetone on them or something and I had to choose one to save between a turkina and zeus, and i don't even have a turkina mini
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>>97459689
Apparently the character of the Fox Foxity Fox Fox Foxes Fox series by Bryan Young is some kind of mechasexual sperg.
Not that I've read them, Btech fiction is beyond poor already and the last years have been dreadful.
>>97459695
Light.
I know it's insanity, but after we started to do matches with "soft" limits (like, nothing above 60 tons) we are having more fun for some reason.
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>>97463718
>You think OSHA gives a fuck about that?
This is the Periphery!
Plus OSHA was abolished nearly a thousand years ago!
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>>97463747
>This is the Periphery!
Hmm strong argument. I guess I just enjoyed the thought of militarized regulators too much to stop and think.
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>>97463750
>I guess I just enjoyed the thought of militarized regulators too much to stop and think.
In this decentralized Libertarian Feudal Hellscape?!
We barely have dirt roads on New Avalon!
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>>97463402
Jesus christ how horrifying
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>>97463762
Well duh. Paved roads would just break from all the tracked vehicles. not to mention all the loader and light franken mechs struttin around.
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>>97461507
Well decided to make up a Level II known as the "Eastwoods" for fun. If it makes things uneven not worried if they are not allowed to take part.

Clint CLNT-2-3T "Callahan" 4/5 BV 770
Clint CLNT-2-3U "Gant" 4/5 BV 1081
Clint CLNT-2-3UL "Highway" 4/5 BV 1245
Clint CLNT-3-3T "Kelly" 4/5 BV 901
Clint CLNT-5U "Manco" 4/5 BV 1275
Clint CLNT-6S "Schaffer" 4/5 BV 1334

Tons: 240 BV: 6606
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He everyone. Dick Dastardly here and I need your help feeling out my list of Dirty Deeds. So far I have the following

Clandestine military support for control of disputed resources. Diamonds, Germanium, Water. If you want it we'll take it or your money back.
Attacks on infrastructure. Spaceports, railyards, warehouses. It doesn't matter to us as long as your checks clear.
Suppression of non combatants. Look I get it. Sometimes people need to get out and cause a ruckus to get heard. I understand that. I also understand that for a large stack of hard currency my techs will load the rubber rounds into our 20mm chainguns. It says less than lethal on the package and that's good enough for me.
(You can help by expanding this list.)
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Is reactorops down for anyone else?
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>>97461507
I am digging the team names this time around
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>>97463198
Not really. A laser us good for a certain light output regardless of whether it's battery powered or plugged into a city power network. Upping its throughput would require swapping to more capable components and probably a higher frequency, which is what the bigger lasers are.
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>>97463815
It is down. The creator said he will retire it in early 2026. I wonder if the time has come.
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>>97463807
Don't forget Advanced Recruiting Operations - if an employer needs a specific someone, you can very easily make them an offer they can't refuse.
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So is Atlas actually worth the points? For all the iconic art and cool look I think we only take him for the vibes and his loadout is too anemic for 100 tons. A trooper with a bit of everything? Sure. But an assault mech should have something harder hitting than just one AC20, SRM6 and two forward facing lasers when up close, or something more than LRM20 at range.
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>>97464078
Depends on the variant. If you are taking a Succession Wars Atlas there really isn't a reason to not take the RS over the D unless you really want that close range firepower and to shoot lasers out your butt. Overall though I do find it a rather expensive investment for what is at the end of the day a well armored generalist.
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Is the reason the 3055 Manticore replaced the laser with a SSRM2 for the infernos?
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>>97464078
King crab.
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>>97463742
>Bryan Young
Oh dear nevermind.
>>97464151
Weight
SSRM2 + 1 ton of ammo = 2.5 tons
ML + 3 Heatsinks = 4 tons
What is controversial is the choice of Large Pulse over PPC.
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>>97464078
Use the 7A, 30 SRMs is really funny.
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>>97464181
I think shes supposed to be like Noa from Patlabor who just really likes her mech and treats it like a family member, but the problem is its Bryan Young so just knowing who the author is makes you suspect its some virtue signaling dog shit the whole time.
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>>97464151
Energy weapons are uniquely bad on vehicles because they have to take enough heat sinks to remain heat neutral at all times and if they aren't using a fusion engine also have to take heavy power amplifiers.
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>>97464295
I feel anons would do a better job at writing a cute autist who is obsessed about mechs.
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>>97464400
They may not be weight or space efficient, but they are Cbill cost efficient
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>>97464295
I still say Light mechs should be Patlabor sized.
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>>97464464
that's what protomechs are for
them and abominations from gothic are ideal for anti-insurgency and policing actions
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>>97464400
i never thought about that, makes sense.
Are there vehicles that use fusion engines?
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>>97464473
didnt protos basically require a midget pilot and surgical "plug me right into the thing' cyber mods?
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>>97464478
The Manticore? I swear if you are the anon who was asking why the "upgrade" had an SSRM2 I am going to slap you with a fish!
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>>97464473
Nah, it should go:
Proto=Gasaraki
Light=Patlabor
Medium=Dougram
Heavy=Macross
Assault=Gundam
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>>97464495
i am not no. Please put down the unbuttered salmon.
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>>97464516
Okay I will this time but I am keeping a seabass as a club just in case.
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>>97464485
yes
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>>97464538
Mechs underwater. In the shallows. You lil shits are lucky I have too much displacement to operate in riverine environments.
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CGL
make the star drive ultralights canon
they wish to be freed
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>>97464478
There are and more importantly they do get the basic engine heat sinks for free and also don't generate heat from anything except energy weapons so they can get up to a PPC without buying any extra heat sinks.
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the Trinity Alliance People's Technology Performance Demonstration Team has entered the tournament. Does Princess know how to embark BA? I don't know but we may get something funny out of it.
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>>97464440
No they would be too tempted to let their gooner nature take over it would be just another brand of terrible.
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>>97464555
Well trips wills it. I'd say they should take them but turn them into IS protomechs.
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Sell me on the Word of Blake as I may be interested
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>>97464630
Real Real Dolls with authentic kung fu grip
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>>97464630
You want to hear the blessed Word of Blake?
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>>97464630
Ok but first you have to be audited. That will be 1,000 C-bills upfront. After that we can talk about the coursework you need to complete to become an adept. Also this is an ascetic order and you will need to give up all your worldly possessions. Just you know, kind of pile them around the donation box.
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>>97464654
Detachable limbs??
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>>97464721
Detaching limbs is easy, re-attaching them is the tricky part.
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>>97464630
Actual Catholic Cyborg Warriors rather than Calvinist robot men.
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>>97464602
Yeah I was going to say only anons who have had baby sisters are allowed to submit ideas but that could go down a dark path fast.
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>>97464630
The villains of a setting that is nothing but villains, who villained so hard that normal villains were too scared to salvage clearly superior mechs for fear of being mistaken for them.
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>>97464941
>Word of Blake
>Villains
With the state of ilclan era you realize they were right all along!
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>>97464752
Oh, I don't plan on reattaching them.
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>>97464630
The saviors of the inner sphere who's holy mission it was to free it from subjugation by the clans and tyrannical house lords. The true successors of star league brought low by the forces of globalism, the writers getting pissy people guessed their super secret ending, and them not having time to "write robes" anymore in their busy schedules of unending clan wolf victories.
They're comstar but open about everything
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>>97464955
The descendants of the Manei Domini and the missing Shadow Divisions will someday return to the Inner Sphere and rescue everyone from the pretenders of the 3rd Star League and the degenerate society of the Clans.
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>>97464955
Word of Blake wanted to bomb the inner sphere back to the Stone Age so they could rebuild it back with them as it’s undisputed technocratic overlords.

What about that is even an argument for or against anything? It’s just a declaration of intent.

god what the hell’s got me so riled up that I typed out a post that long before it even occurred to me that it might just be rage bait… I might need to take a nap or something
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>>97464630
I wasn't a massive fan of the Jihad, but with IlClan, I kinda wanna go back
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>>97464607
The only protomech rule I'd want them to have is the size one
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>>97464982
Legit though if you want people to think of a faction as the "bad guy" don't make it so that the "victors" fuck things up beyond all recognition for everyone within a generation.
>>97464995
Have a nice nap anon.
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What are some ideas for mechwarrior contracts that could legitimately be something an IS noble house would put out, but also be so goddamn dumb that any company that took the contract would omit any involvement in it out of sheer embarrassment.
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>>97465157
Drac lord wanting to steal some pantsu.
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>>97465157
Escorting the princess to prom. It would be a bad look for the actual military to do it since it would be a waste of tax money.
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>>97465157
Retrieving some prodigal son from canopies debauchery so he can actually learn how to fucking manage the fiefdoms.
Being sent after 'pirates' that are clearly just merchants from a rival
Prolonged guard duty for a salvage operation / expedition for a nonexistant SLDF cache.
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>>97465269
>Prolonged guard duty for a salvage operation / expedition for a nonexistant SLDF cache.
Wasn't that what happened technically at Galtor III?
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>>97465157
literally just having you show up in your biggest mech painted their colors to show off at (Insert noble event here)
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>>97465275
sorta, Galtor was ment to be a trap for the dracs if i recall right
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>>97465282
Yeah it was meant to be bait but they ended up finding a real cache and had to scramble a bunch of Vegans to unfuck the shitshow.
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>>97465157
live action battlemech porn with strapon dongers and v*g00
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>>97464984
They did and rethuglicans dunked all over them. For which I will be eternally butthurt because they brought the Dragoon back from the grave only for it to die all over again.
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>>97465264
Bodyguarding(successfully) important nobles would be good credentials.
Pretty sure escorting the nobility around wouldn't be seen as a waste of military resources either.
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>>97464984
Most manei domini in combat roles would be too fucked up to raise or even have children at all.
Unless they made a self sustaining von neumann probe-style AI war machine, the word of blake died in the void.
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>>97465393
But escorting the noble’s mistress that he isn’t even supposed to have because this isn’t Canopus, might be a different story.

especially if there was a “leak” and the lord’s wife found out about the mistress, not that anyone in your company would do that for the free entertainment, right?
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>>97465157
Posing as space pirates to raid one of the client's business interests because they oversold shares in it. The embarrassing part is that it wasn't a Producers-type financial scam, they just made a stupid mistake with the bookkeeping.
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>>97465393
Bodyguarding a teenager going to prom at a private school catering almost entirely to similar high class families is not a good use of battlemechs.
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Omni Firestarter B or U
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>>97464592
From what I've seen so far, Princess has no idea how to embark BA.
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>>97465438
Making sure the ruling nobility or their heirs are safe from possible danger is one of the best uses for battlemechs in a monarchy.
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>>97465438
But it's funny to have your limo escorted by firestarters
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>>97465487
There is no credible threat to prom at Duke Bumton's fourth spare palace in the mountains of a private continent that would require battlemechs in the limo turnaround.
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>>97465537
The chief danger to nobles is other nobles.
There is always a credible threat.
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>>97465595
The credible threat is that the son of Duke Grabblegock is rumored to be a date rapist and the daughter of the CEO of Conglomocorp Ltd is the kind of punk who would spike the non-alcoholic champagne with some kind of designer drug.
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>>97465611
The credible threat is that political assassinations and kidnappings are a constant threat to the ruling class in any society at any location and any time. Committed spontaneously or premeditated, carried out via underlings, others within the ruling class or opposing mercenaries.
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>>97465656
You're not stopping that with battlemechs on the lawn.
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>Find funny little mech
>Want to add it to force
>Extinct, last one seen a decade ago and won't be back in production for a hundred years
Every time
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>>97465664
Actually, a visible and capable military presence limits your options for killing or kidnapping someone by a lot.
Certainly aren't going to be able to snatch someone and leave if that someone has a mercenary in a locust paid to keep you from kidnapping them. Can't just roll up with a deathsquad to overpower the personal guards if the security detail includes a lance of battlemechs.
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If I started a garage shop mech business building extinct mechs would the bears murder me for making Celestials and Dragoons?
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>>97465741
A lot of people would murder you for knowing how to even make a Celestial. Dragoons maybe not as much.
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>>97465741
Assuming you have this magical garage shop that can churn out entire fully equipped extinct battlemechs. In bear space? Yes.
Everyone else would also probably want to kill you just to steal this miniature lostech mech factory you've somehow acquired.
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>>97465595
It’s also a prom, this is absolutely what a goon-squad is for. MAYBE a Battle Armor squad if you want to make some kind of point.

But think about what kind of problems would REASONABLY come up at a trust fund baby prom. Illicit substances and physical altercations between guests. So let me ask you honestly: if a fight breaks out between drunk guests, what the fuck is the guy in the Atlas supposed to do about it? Sit there in their cockpit and look stupid?
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>>97465769
I mean the technology isnt lost tech. The designs might be kind of hard to get a hold of.
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>>97465778
Sit there and keep an eye out for the threats they're paid to handle.
A force of mercenary battlemechs are one layer of security that's there to handle what the other layers of security can't.
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>>97465157
Wait, what if the embarrassment isn’t from the job itself, but because the job was so nuts that you can’t recount it without sounding like a loon?

A classic “nobody will ever believe you” scenario.

Because in that case I got three words: “mutant. Cannibal. Clanners”
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>>97465778
Stomp on over to their houses and uhh, stomp them.
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>>97465803
I'm pretty sure all clanners are mutants by definition.
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>>97465811
No, mutation is random and unintentional,clanners are exactly tge opposite, you're closer to being classed as a mutant.
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>>97465826
>random and unintentional
I don't think that's actually what it's defined as.
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Excluding the Free Worlds League for obvious reasons, how common was (mech-involving) infighting or even internal invasions between nobles of the same Great House during the late Succession War era?
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If it isnt canonical that minor nobles got into shitflinging conflicts over the smallest bullshit and escalated it into armed conflict with his 3 Stingers I'll make my own AU with Mech Levies and hookers.
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>>97465665
I shoehorned R60L Urbies into my ilclan hinterlands game for my corpo security turned mercs, maybe I’m a cannon bending fag but a decade since its last service does not sound like any more of a bad stretch then the hidden cache shit you may see in early succession wars groups.
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>>97465865
Internal invasions? Probably extremely unlikely. Infighting? Depends on the force. I could see a constant dueling culture in the Combine between various Samurai lineages, and maybe during FedCom there was some friction between nobles of the two halves.
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>>97465865
One of the old rpg adventures was set in motion by a planetary military leader trying to orchestrate a coup against the noble ruler.
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>>97465900
Unfortunately, R60L urbies wouldn't be too hard of a refit, so they're technically more possible than what the other anon wants. But, fortunately for him, it doesn't have Obsolete, so it's still possible.
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>>97465956
The main issue with the Dragoon and blakist designs in general is that they wouldn't be in the New Dallas Core since they post-date it. Almost any design from before the Amaris Civil War is openly available to anyone since that memory core was maintained by Terran Hegemony spooks to specifically hold the blueprints and manufacturing info on anything and everything mech related, and then it was spread far and wide in the Jihad to support industrialmech manufacturers pivoting to (usually primitive) battlemechs. It's feasible for any small manufacturer to have data from it. Getting the blueprints for Amaris Empire or Blakist machines is a whole different ball game.
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How's the battletech gothic debacle shaping up?
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>>97465075
Fifty years is a bit more than a single generation, and it takes another twenty for the exploit barbarian tribes plan to really blow up in their face. It isn't their fault they live in a war game setting.
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>>97465984
There is no debacle, it was made, it didn't sell as fast as the distributors or stores wanted it to, they'll probably make a plastic abominations box and sometimes Herb drops or soft endorses some stuff related to it on the OF.
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>>97465665
Genuinely, I hate seeing cool designs go extinct, almost as much as I hate people bitching about using 'extinct' designs, especially if it hasn't been too long.

If mechs could be kept running for centuries during the succ wars by some hick planetary baron, there's no reason whatsoever to say someone else couldn't keep a mech or two running a decade after its last 'official' action.
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I wonder if there were other groups that, unlike the Gray Death Legion or Chandy, found a memory core but kept it for themselves in secret
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>>97466008
Well they said they were going to release one big box and move on, but apparently demands were high enough that they're releasing Abomination box in Q1
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Playtesting a mod of Alpha Strike to play infantry skirmish. Do these guys read as Clan Wolf to
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>>97465979
That post was for the Urbie and the one before it was for the Roadrunner
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>>97465846
Then you need to reread Darwin.
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>>97465979
>strong contender for favorite assault mech is a blakist design
It hurts to play with people who insist on hard adherence to MUL after thr jihad
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>>97465956
NTA but I'm more bothered by the fact that the R27 didn't apparently show up until 3130 or whatever it was. You'd think chucking three SRM6's on a Urbanmech would be a no brainer but apparently not...
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>>97466053
Where are the tails and ears?
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>>97466060
You could just consult a thesaurus or look it up.
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>>97466053
Clanners don't really have a visual identity outside of IE tats and fursuits.
They just look like generic infantry, could be anyone.
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>>97466081
lmao
>>97466098
I was kinda going for the famous Beta Galaxy color scheme
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Do clannoids field freebirth infantry?
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>>97466106
>the famous Beta Galaxy color scheme
Isn't that black and tan OR green?
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>>97466131
That’s why I gave them grey pants and khaki shirts/tan flak armor
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>>97465811
Oh you sweet summer child.
You have no idea what kind of feral monsters an iron womb can churn out when it goes haywire…
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>>97466145
>You have no idea what kind of feral monsters an iron womb can churn out when it goes haywire…
desire to know more intensifies
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>>97466144
The green and light grey and complete lack of clan wolf red or iconography just kind of makes them look like nondescript infantry.
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>>97466166
I think the grey is fine; the green does make them look like they could be used as CJF too
Maybe I’ll settle for generic, it’s not too clear where red would fit on these models
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>>97466126
Infantry (and cops) are still warriors, so not the ones that insist on only using trueborn warriors. Don't think about scale, the writers sure didn't.
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If I field a platoon of infantry armed with flintlock muskets can they only fire every 16 rounds?
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>>97466181
A little red stripe on the abdominal plate or one side of the helmet at least would probably be a better indicator that they're clan wolf.
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>>97466145
Now I’m thinking that incidents like this is how you get Battletech Gothic to cross over with prime timeline Battletech.

And there’s no way you will be able to explain “abominations” to anyone from the normal timeline without sounding like you’re either insane, or just making shit up.
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>>97465384
Those were neo-Blakists within Republican Comstar, not the Manei Domini or Shadow Divisions.
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>>97466213
>And there’s no way you will be able to explain “abominations” to anyone from the normal timeline without sounding like you’re either insane, or just making shit up.
Necromo nightmare exists. The setting is already a cunts hair away from dystopian nightmare. They just choose to keep that kind of thing very limited.
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>>97466145
>>97466150
>>97466213
>>97466231
We have such SIGHTS to SHOW YOU!
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>>97466231
> Necromo nightmare exists.
The Necromo nightmare is just a rogue AI. Glorified malware.

An abomination is an inhuman monster of genetic engineering gone wrong.
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>>97466267
You uh, forgetting bout dem zombies?
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>>97466263
Don't think that says anything about an iron womb malfunction.
Doesn't even really describe anything frightening or "feral" actually.
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>>97466210
I may try the abdominal plate idea, thank you
>>97466267
That thing looks so cool
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>>97466053
I glanced at them at thought "starship troopers has an infantry box?"
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>>97466226
Yep, Buhl's boys from the hyperspace college in Australia. Who Levin didn't actually have a problem with and asked for help from them during the 3135 Republic civil war.

It was McKinnon (who was likely an OG Blakist sleeper) and his special forces (who did not follow the Ghost Paladin or the Ghost Knights) who had a hard-on for killing robes and forced their conscription under the Wall. Probably why Stone sacked him as soon as he woke up.

Speaking of DA nonsense, anybody ever hear what happened to Bannson after he got imprisoned in 3136?
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>>97466291
NTA but they do and it has arachnids.
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>>97466291
>"starship troopers has an infantry box?"
Those are unironically Bear infantry. Look it up. I'm not fucking with you.
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>>97466291
There was a pretty extensive SST minis game published by Mongoose years back but IIRC the. I did not look much like the ones from the movie
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>>97466357
*The MI
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>>97466183

A BattleTech game round is 10 seconds, so they should fire every other round. The mark of a good soldier is to fire 3 shots a minute.
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Do the Manei Domini implants confer enough bonuses to worth their bv?
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>>97466476
Thank you Captain Sharpe. So if I want every round a breechloader or trapdoor gets me there?
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>>97466479
iirc, the full suite makes it so they can only take pilot damage from direct head hits and offsets the penalties from their small cockpits.
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>>97460092
I love these. That is very close to the color scheme I've had in mind since discovering battletech. do you think bone would look good on the white parts?
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>>97466501
Thats a little underwhelming. I thought it turned them into mech gods with incredible p/g scores. Being mostly immune to pilot damage is cool I guess.
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>>97466476
Three shots a minute? The Marik Militia can do two on a good day! Think you can do better eh?
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>>97466581
There's obviously a lot of shit you have to deal with if you have holdings in norsca but ports and being able to freely settle is really important, especially in the early game.
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>>97466603
how did you even end up putting that here instead of /twg/
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>>97466476
What is the picture from? Filename doesn't help, and I'd like to know more about those tits.
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So when are we going to stop pussyfooting around and begin growing Battlemechs instead of building them. And fuck off with your cubed square whatever law. This setting has working fusion. There are no rules anymore,
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>>97466686
sharpe
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>>97466521
… bone might be too light to stand out against the white. But then again, one is a cool white, while the other is a warm off-white so, maybe…

I’m inclined to think they’ll bleed together too much but you might want to try a test splotch on some discardable surface, just to be sure.
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I can't decide between 2 Battle armor or 1 and a tank for the tourney
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rip my niggas the nightstalkers
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>>97466714
Princess will use a tank better than it can use BA

Seriously, even a few squads of infantry can completely shut down a star of elementals because they'll keep trying to swarm a mek that isn't there
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>>97466263
Canopian monstergirl hookers are just cyborgs done up to look like they're part animal. Genetic engineering weirdness is a different thing.
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Do the canopians have futanari women? Asking for a friend
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>>97466603
Those neuro implants sure are a mother fucker huh trashborn?
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>>97466798
Welcome Honored Patron. Please select the desired number of Penises you would like your hostess to possess tonight
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What are the ghost regiments like? Do they have any particular fighting style or weight preference? Because right now I'm working on some amphigean light assault group and as bad as I may be at freehanding I'm considering turning them into ghost regiment instead
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>>97466811
Three should do it...
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I really hope they don't job horribly this time.
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Is getting a title/land and settling down as a Great House's noble a major goal for the mercs?
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>>97466782
Exactly! It’s when you have this fucker on the comms saying “we have such sites to show you” from the cockpit of his mad Max’d up Grendel that you’ll begin to understand that what you’re going to see on this mission, nobody will ever believe, but god knows no amount of drugs or alcohol will be enough to forget…

And that becomes doubly so when you realize that he represents one of the more “normal” and least mutated of the lot.
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What would a good taurian or canopian force look like mech wise?
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>>97467330
>taurian
Toros, Marauders, Thunderbolts, Warhammer, Griffins, Hatchetman, Commandos

>canopian
Wasp, Stinger, Locust, Anubis in later periods, Shadow Hawk. Nothing heavier than a Shadow Hawk for sure.
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>>97466008
>>97466045
I suspect the box sets may sell more when people realize you can also get Abomination figures
I will buy a lot of Abomination ForcePacks
>>97467155
Underrated post
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>>97467412
The Canopian Penthesilea is 75 tons. 3083 manufacture.
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Alright /btg/ I'm here from /wip/ and I got a question to ask.
Some drama from here has spilled over to there and we got an anon who admits to being a nude poster and another anon who accuses him of being an attention whore who was constantly crapping on some "literal nazi" here and then copying his gimmick of painting pinups after a multi-thread instance of trolling where the gay nude poster was "slobbering on his knob" praising the painting right up until the "literal nazi" revealed the pinups were painted by him and then went on to copy the idea in a bid to get attention himself.
Can some anons here tell me what happened?
Is this gay nude poster an insufferable attention whore? Does he post contributive material that makes up for the nude posting? (if such a thing is possible). which side of this argument has merit?
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>>97467481
Bottom anon, as he is called, is a prolific insufferable faggot that regularly posts off topic nude photos of himself for attention in this general and pictures of models of average quality. It's about a 50/50 that whenever he posts he's deliberately attempting to derail the thread and make it worse.
Nazi anon, as he is called, is a controversial poster that posts pictures of models. Primarily known for his nazi-inspired paint schemes that I'm pretty sure are mainly to get a rise out of people, in fairness, he has also painted schemes related to other nations of the second world war and just regular paint jobs. He doesn't post nudes of himself or talk like an attention seeking fruit, so I'm personally not that bothered by him.
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>>97467473
Not canon. MOC is nothing but bugs and Shadow Hawks. That's it
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>>97467521
Take your meds and check the Master Unit List. I'm not obliged to treat your mental illness.
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>>97467529
Anon probably disregards everything after Tukayyid as noncanon. Maybe they include the FedCom Civil War.
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>>97467509
>models of average quality
This is very generous
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>>97467581
honestly ignoring the latter half of the blake chimp out and the whole ilkhan is just the smart move.
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>>97467638
Story merit or lack thereof aside, ignoring it all on the basis of shark-jumping mechanically in all the side grade equipment added to the mech construction rules is very reasonable.
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>>97467509
Nazi-anon also insists that he paints nazi models for his "heritage" and not just because the nazis had a slick sense of design. Really didn't help his case.
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>>97467674
So? I'm with other anon, I'll take him every day all day over bottom. Nazi is just another autist, bottom is, as described an insufferable attention whore faggot.
And I mean faggot in the full sense of the word, he's not just a gay, it isn't just about his sexuality, it is about the depraved and despicable content of his character.
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>>97467646
>new eras suck because they don't have anything new
>thats why we're going to ignore any new mechs or variants

I don't even know where to start with this kind of bullshit.
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>>97467722
What part of /my/ comment lamented a lack of new things? We don't need new things, the mech construction rules and the "canon" variants provide more than enough mechs to play with, no one here has gone through all the stock variants of all the mechs in succession wars to clan invasion, I doubt anyone who plays the game ever has, much less explored the possibilities of customs in the construction rules.
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>>97467727
I picked one of you because calling you all wrong was going to take more time than I have.

There's plenty of reason to not like certain eras or not play them, but I can only tolerate so much 'hurr durr not real battletech' at a time.
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>>97467722
i just hate how awful the writing became.
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>>97467758
Bullshit, no one in the chain lamented a lack of new things, you're inventing arguments that aren't being made because you have no reasonable response to the ones that have been.
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>>97464982
They tried so hard and sacrificed so much.
Also, it's the schizo technocult faction and probably one of the most original setups in the franchise, killed in the crib because the authors wanted to write more Clans. Spite the authors, play more WoB.
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>>97467529
>>97467521
Penthesilea is noted for being the biggest mech design the MoC has ever commissioned for themselves, so it's really more an exception to the rule.
In that regard neither of you are actually wrong.
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>>97467812
I thought it was more that FASA had wrapped up things quickly with the FedCom Civil War, and then the new owners were trying to cut away the anime in favor of lumbering mechs. As well as the ClickyTech.

Since they didn't rollback the universe but advanced the timeline, they jumped forwards to the Republic Era, and put in the Jihad as a vague thing that wrecked the universe. And thereby everything about the WoB had to be backfilled in.

We're now in Clan dominance, but from what I've seen, the initial total Clan victory has slowly been backpedaled to them being the factions to kill the Dark Age stuff and get us to a semi-post FedCom status quo.
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>>97467774
Just because you only read replies doesn't mean I only read replies.
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>>97467812
WoB thinks positively of the RotS?
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>>97467841
>WoB thinks positively of the RotS?
pic related is what they're trying to claim
the wobbies will latch onto anything and claim it was the plan all along
the entire thing was just a tantrum, justification came afterwards

>>97467832
It's kinda impressive, in a comic-book style retcon. They were handed a near impossible task, and they had to do whatever was needed to change the setting to justify where they wanted to go and explain how it somehow fit together
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>>97467859
They've managed to do a lot to make it fit together a fair bit with their backfilling, but I do think they made one big mistake. There should have been 1 more era between the FedCom Civil War and the Jihad to both allow for things to stew and for a bunc hof the FASA characters to have died over in rather than killing them all in one big assassination.

Maybe about a 20 year period that gives a calm before the storm that the Word of Blake was using to establish themselves and have the Second Star League last a bit longer before it collapses and the Jihad is triggered. Rest of the timeline remains the same other than the dates being about +20 years.
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My dream MW6

>main two campaigns span from the conclusion of the refusal war to the jihad on which the story is focused, ending in the player joining op SCOUR
>said two campaigns being the optional start of whether the player wants to be a special clanner unit, spawning in the dominion, or an IS merc making bank in the fedcom civil war
>takes all the new tech from mw5c, like directional jumpjets, a battlegrid you can give orders on (without that retarded 1km range limit)
>takes from the best mods including non-retarded AI lancemates and formation movement, vehicles that are closer to tabletop than just being balloons to pop, a mechlab that respects your intelligence, a salvage hardmode for autists who like to scrap and starve, more interesting objective missions, customizable huds
>takes from MA the ability to get out of mechs and into vehicles or other open mech
>doesnt need additional mods to alleviate its slavjank tier poor optimization
>the ability to load up and command two other lances if you play IS, or just your binary if you're a clanner. lances/stars can consist of vehicles as well as mechs
>knockdowns
>a melee system that isn't just awkwardly slapping the enemy mech
>difficulty scales by objective count, mission length/attrition, optional opportunities, and timetables rather than the dreaded tonnage creep that just forces you to bring only assault lances to every mission by endgame
>the ability to set up bases, depots, on planets which can provide a home base, mission types, supplies for campaigns, and not have a single dropship somehow carrying around 50 mechs
>at least one mission where the wobbies nuke you

>separate from the interstellar campaigns, a true "planetary war" mode where your lance is just one among many with their own objectives and battles going on around you, with an active frontline that can move depending on mission successes, failures, or even winning in the wrong places at the wrong time
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>>97467964
Then MW6:Mercs is working for the Wobbies for fat cash and warcrimes, ending with the defense of Terra and then fucking off with the Fleet of Blake.
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New thread? New thread!
>>97468901

>>97468901

>>97468901
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>>97467674
It’s funny to me that “Nazis had drip” is the best justification to paint a swastika on your mech and it’s kinda hard to argue with it. Still prefer him over the resident faggot though.
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>>97467509
>you schizoposting at the end of a half dozen /wip/ threads with this shit
>this amount of buttmad samefagging

I will post nudes? do you want me to post nudes? I'll post them if you want. I'm confused.
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>>97465264
>>97465438
>>97465778
>>97465800
what'll happen is that, during the boring, uneventful political posturing of a mission, some mercs will reveal that they've been paid more to stage a false-flag terrorist attack on the prom. Before they can actually do damage, a hidden assault mech piloted by a political terrorist who has a vendetta against the daughter you've been assigned to guard will appear. Through a series of bad rolls, the prom will be exploded, the mercenaries will be killed by the terrorist who is trying to kill the daughter, and the terrorist will save the daughter entirely by accident and then leave.



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