Pretty simple: what games are well-and-truly kike'd, and what games remain free of subversion?Non-negotiables: 1. No faggots of any flavour2. No disabled characters or rules for them3. No good goy moral platforming in any books4. No browns of any shade5. No moral perversions or Jewish propaganda Negotiables:1. Women can be included, but not be majority of established characters, and only if setting relevant and NEVER with colored hair or a dyke haircut2. Fats allowed if funny
at least this one will get deleted.
>>97462356Good luck mate but I'm pretty sure the ttrpg publishing industry is well and truely captured by the kikes at this stage.Just play games that are out of print then you and your friends can do whatever the fuck you want without supporting people who hate you.
>>97462356I'm afraid the best you can find are games made by yesterday's leftists.
>No faggots of any flavourThen no game (you) play would meet your criteria.
>>97462356There are none, guess you should fuck off.
>>97462356I know how you feel OPI like my entertainment media to be devoid of deliberately preaching political stances of any kind. Even if they are politics I agree with. But after so much bombardment I see it all the time. Perhaps even when it isn’t there.Anyways to answer your question.Miniature and setting agnostic war game rulebooks are a good start. I didn’t see anything that could be interpreted as woke in Xenos rampant>butThe word “woke” is used in the same vein as the left uses the word “problematic” meaning that with enough thought or lack of thought one could twist anything into fitting into their definition of woke or problematic.So if there is something that is genuinely woke about the Xenos rampant book then I apologize for not noticing when I looked at the pdf and then bought the book.
>>97462356Critter Conflicts
>>97462356Hmm... Engine Heart?
>>97462460>WELL AKSHULLY HORSESHO THEORYRetard
Gb2 /pol/
>>97462356Obvious bait is obvious but anyways:>Pretty simple: what games are well-and-truly kike'd, and what games remain free of subversion?Short answer: MyFarogLong answer: none of them full stop, unless you go back to their wargame roots (so LBB+chainmail up to AD&D 1e tops) and dig around up until the 90s products, specifically the simulationist ones, even then you may find still some pamphlets about "viewer discretion is advised" with some rough indications about best practices, which will devolve in the current wokeslop of todady.>1. No faggots of any flavourTo what extent? Having homosexual npcs is not a deal breaker for me if they fit the specific narrative theat is relevant to the game itself (and not the other way around);>2. No disabled characters or rules for themSo no crippling injuries? Disabled characters are fine and a staple of adventurous stories (eg: pirates), mistery meat bosses in modern/super wheelchairs everywhere are the issue, don't make a whole of a dedicated issue;>3. No good goy moral platforming in any booksAuthors are individuals with their own convictions and it's inevitable for those to bleed in their works, and that's perfectly fine as long as it's something predigested and emerging through nuance and subtlety. The issue is, like you said, platforming for platforming sake, having the product as an excuse for advertising something else entirely;>4. No browns of any shadeBrown existing isn't an issue, tokenization is, especially the rampant in your face level we have currently reached. In the past i would still be fine with tongue-in-cheek obligatory tokens here and there but how things devolved made even those insufferable to me.>5. No moral perversions or Jewish propagandaHere's the thing: ttrpgs are inherently a form of gnostic activity, so it will always be ground for mirroring/inversion of archetypes typical of kikeshit tricks. Fucking Gygagx was a JW. Just be aware of it and you'll be fine.
>>97462460>I like my entertainment media to be devoid of deliberately preaching political stances of any kindDid you miss op's seven item list of ideological values that MUST be upheld? One of which was "no moral perversions"? How do you make an exclusively heterosexual and mono-ethnic game system with a non-negotiable ratio of gender representation, explicit code of how to depict disabilities AND a seperate checklist of moral values that must be represented...And have it be non-preachy and apolitical? Ive read manifestos that didnt check all those boxes
I know of a mech game that recently came out but it’s Chinese and pretty limited in supply so I won’t share it with your bitch ass.
>>97462488No I’m right because I’ve been around people of both sides and heads their way of speaking.The word problematic is really used in a similar fashion to the way woke is used.Never heard the word “chud” used in real life though.>>97462676>Did you miss op's seven item list of ideological values that MUST be upheld? One of which was "no moral perversions"? Yes I did.I thought the op image was just to grab one’s attention in the same way lewd images are often used.My bad.
maybe ACLS because of the author's beliefs.but it's standard D&D with some extra bits about running a kingdom and so on. makes it clear that, for example, monsters are agents of Evil so it's fine to kill them. no need to worry on behalf of the make-believe fantasy races.
>>97462356Here is secret method to make any TTRPG a perfect hugbox: Read all the rules then only use the ones that you like. Ignore pictures and lore becsuse its imagination game you could make your own. You are welcome.
>>97462356>No faggots of any flavour>No browns of any shade>No Jewish propaganda>Fats allowed if funnyPlease do the needful and delete your post in accordance with your rules, sir.
>>97462684I don't know if that was supposed to be lewd, but the thumbnail is giving off heavy dysgenic-soijak vibes and now I'm imagining some unholy combination of both. Thanks a fucking lot.
>>97462460>Miniature and setting agnostic war game rulebooks are a good start.they could all be woke because it's up to the players to decide what armies and flavor they put into their games.You'd have to find a really obnoxious game that expressively forbids "woke" things (just like all the games that "forbid" nazis from playing them), but even then it's a piece of paper it can't force you to do anything
>>97462675>Short answer: MyFarogthat lets you play women, niggers and jews. It gives you shit for it, but they are playable
>>97463108CHUD SMCH
>>97462853Cheers anon. Seen a few good answers, I'll check em all out after work.>>97462675Not intending to bait, just having one of those days. We all need a break from purposeful subversion sometimes. I'm usually a little more chill, but just... Fuck. Tbh I'm at the point where I just wanna be able to have fun and bs with the bois without even having to *think* about anything that reminds me of the state of the world rn.
>>97462356Why do you hate pirate games, OP?
>>97462356There have never been any games like this and there never will be until you make one. You won't, because if you genuinely reject anything with any of those things in, you've rejected practically the entire corpus of fantasy and sci-fi media and have nothing to be influenced by. Even a faithfully historical game set in Nazi Germany or whichever period of history you romanticise would necessarily include one or more of those things that you don't want.
>>97462488Yes. You all need to be killed. Anyone who has strong feelings about things they can't control should be killed, in fact.
>>97462356I guess chess?
>>97464354You know that you as GM can make your own world with as many faggots, trannies, kikes, chuds, incels, what have you as you want, on a scale from 0 to infinity?
>>97464457No,some of the pieces are black and that may trigger OP
>>97462356just play japanese ttrpg
>>97462356Bruh this is like the 12th fucking thread you've made about this in 2 fucking days
>>97465145This is the part where you realized this is not an actual problem but some faggot spamming to "win" the culture war.
>>9746235640K! Just avoid woke opponents. You dont need to include female Space Marines.
>>97462368LOLLMAO
>>97462356Literally just take a system you like the rules of and make your own setting for it. It's not that hard.
>>97462356We're all gay, black jewish women here so you should probably head on out.
>>97462356Literally any game you decide to GM
Historicals but no one wants to play those
>>97463117Better use nude models with sculpted genitals then, because that's the only way to be sure that there are no trannies in your army.
>>97466206Who is the KKK harassing in this game if you don't allow minorities? The Irish?
>>97466223These are used for a 1920s mafia game
>>97466227So they kill the Italian and hate women marrying them?
Should I pop this annoying pimple that appeared on my right eyebrow?
>>97466268No, let it fester.
>>97462675This thread is bait, but have you noticed that simulationist games and their players are typically very right-wing/anti-censorship compared to 5e and especially narrativist games? In addition, places like r/rpghorrorstories automatically assume that you are a right-wing extremist/"gatekeeper" if you support simulationism.
>>97466806>anti-censorship>entire thread is pants shitting about Thing I Don't Like Is In A Gamecrazy work my friend
>>97466817I'll tell you this much: you're not going to convince anyone both sides are the same when one of them likes to make self-congratulatory blogposts/pages about removing shit deemed outdated/"icky" from the games they make or make really fucking annoying "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY [x] IF YOU'RE A NATZEE" disclaimers.
>>97466817Thread is about avoiding things people dislike, which is not the same as claiming things shouldn't exist just because some people dislike them (aka censorship).Though I'm not too surprised to come across someone who doesn't understand the difference.
>>97462356Pendragon.Deathwatch.
>>97462368when games are all taking modern day political stances which can instantly and absolutely guarantee the game will be worthless, the OP is asking an extremely valid questionas for you personally, you don't belong here m8 please head off into the sunset
Real talk, there's a difference between being sick of all the forced, inauthentic tokenism in modern games and being a genuine racist asshole. I'd never want to play a game with anybody like OP. I'm not trying to virtue signal here, but the truth of it is that every out and proud racist I've ever met were just plain horrible to be around. Most of them were alcoholics and all of them had anger issues. It's like being in the desert with a fucking rattlesnake and having to plan your every move very carefully so you can back away without it lashing out and biting you. And I'm not talking about white supremacists exclusively, either. If anything, the NOIfags are even worse, 'cause funnily enough a lot of them can fool you for a bit with an air of respectability before you realize what hateful little shits they are.
>>97462356I think you should start with games written before 1990, the pool of games that were... unduly influenced was a lot smaller back then. Unfortunately the immune system of the hobby was very weak at that point, so a lot of companies had authors show up and try to sneak in some of the things you don't want who then got fired for other reasons.
>>97467189I'm more generous and say pre-2010 is the cutoff point for decent writers not using their books to vent, if you avoid obvious exceptions like White Wolf or LotFP (even if that one isn't political).
>>97467177That's because most "out and proud racists" are fundamentally hateful people who gravitate towards racism as a vehicle for their hate. Prejudice is an excuse for unleashing their bile on their targets, a heuristic they can employ in deciding how to direct their hate. If racial divisions didn't already exist, these people would find it necessary to create them.
>>97467199>LotFPHonestly, I'm more willing to put up with annoying political venting than whatever the fuck Raggi was going through with his ex.
>>97467189>games written before 1990*before 1980
>>97467226Is that woke or just interesting lore? Because he is a God of a race of androgynous people and not a proper person.
>>97462684This is horrifying, never post again
>>97462356Don't care if the thread is bait or spam. Adding my two cents.Don't give money to Wargames Atlantic or Joseph of FGrostgrave renwon. They are bitches. I bought Wargames Atlantic "Last War" and it included a message about how prejudice is and and people should be allowed to paint their troops from WW1 like pride flags. And don't buy from WOTC, Battletech, or Games workshop.
>>97462356The issue with this approach to hobby gaming is that it's incredibly self-defeating.Fundamentally, you can't get a 'non-woke' game, as to be 'woke' just means to be aware and cognizant of reality. Typically wrongs or injustices. Which is why woke people always look miserable.>It's bad to beat homosexuals.>Let the man/woman have surgery and live as a woman/man, it's not hurting anyone.>Cows are about as smart as dogs, maybe we shouldn't cage farm them their whole life?Unfortunately, this kind of critical thinking is also integral to good creativity and original ideas. Which in turn, are needed for an original and fun game.So, working back from that, ANY original, non-sloppa tabletop game can INEVITABLY be pointed to and decried as 'woke' with enough 'woke' thinking.On top of this demand for games without any kind of 'woke' thinking in their inception (reducing us to slop and derivatives of bigger and more successful franchises), OP, in his infinite faggoty, has set the further stipulations>Nothing construable as homosexuality (which as similar issues as to above).>No disabled or physically impaired characters.>No mention of moral right or wrong, good or evil.>No ranges of ethnicity across the setting.>No sacrificing or twisting of morals or ethics for any reason. (we pretend this doesn't conflict with stipulation 3).>No mention of any culture or concepts that can be found in Jewish culture or society.So what we're left to search for is; an entirely uncreative and unoriginal slop game/setting that is entirely amoral, where sexuality or anything vaguely campy doesn't exist, being injured is physically impossible, the entire thing takes place in a small monoethnic geographic area, and any act, deed, belief or message that has parallel to anything found in the Torah, or in a Jewish community, is stripped out.If you can find a game in that selection pool, I commend you.>>97467258>Is OP going to find a gender-fluid elf god woke.Anon
>>974623562/3 the replies in this thread is proof of what kind of 'people' run /tg/ now.Anon, I shall make you a game.You may not like it, but it will fit your requirements.save 1:If I include any browns/geis, I will include the option to shoot at them.I'm getting sick of the GeiBloc's "we must be perfect heroes at all times" never-bad bs.
Just play oathmark solo or something.
>>97467226Eh, though this was touted by transtrenders a lot during the D&D wars last decade this isn't what OP is talking about I'd imagine. A lot of mythology has weird shapeshifting fuckery and it wasn't political and certainly isn't woke, though I'm sure Loki giving birth to a horse will delight some weirdos in current year.
>>97462356That new Oath Hammer game probably fits the bill. Castles & Crusades maybe?
>>97467605Oath Hammer huh, let's check it out. Not OP by the way, I think his post was probably a bit gauche for /tg/.
>>97467619well shit that's pretty based
>>97467622No bluesky link on their publisher's webpage, that's a pretty good sign
>>97467629Their twitter account has no posts, so if the guy is a secret retard he's at least smart enough to have deleted his posts, or is classy enough to have never used the thing.
>>97467203>>97467177People who make politics their whole identity (you both know exactly what kind of people I'm talking about) and have like zero exceptions or leeways for their perceived "enemy" tend to be the worst and most annoying motherfuckers on the planet. My bf is fairly white nationalist and he's never sperged out about it in front of anyone. We make jokes about the guy who has to ding the bell whenever "brown people" show up in his tv shows.
Actually, let's try something. I'll list stuff off to see if it's actually got wokeshit in it or not. For instance. Is GURPS woke?
OP here, fighting spam filters for my life. Thread is not bait but I can't reply cause gookmoot is a retard. Anyway, hello bots, that other thread wasn't me, but I sure see a lot of bots rushing to the aid of all these poor groupsDoesn't matter that I can choose to not have shit in my game, I want it to not be in any game that isn't homebrewing. Keep your fuckin smart remarks to yourselves cause I don't give a shit about your opinion of my request. Be helpful or die in a fire lmao66206I do :'(66817Actually it's "everything antithetical to my culture is in every game"66890Thank you for not being retarded66916Will investigate these as well67177God forbid I have one place in my life I have control over, right? I hope she sees this Mr "not virtue signaling"67278Cheers anon. Don't forget the guys who do WoD; some new book or another had an intro kvetching about "fascists"67345God bless anon <367578Thank you for giving me some credit; you're right, I do have absolutely zero problems with well-written things like gods taking variable forms67622checking this out too67705I'm not deranged dude, I'm just sick of not having any hobbies I can enjoy without being beat over the head by the globalist agenda. I've got black family members that I love just as dearly as the rest of my family, and I don't hate anybody for the group they belong to... Except for the globalist Jewish mafia. That group in particular can fuck right off every time.
>>97467801>fighting spam filters for my lifemulti-response with more than two or three >> will get you flagged, just respond in parts and you should be fine
>>97467622Yeah and there's an entire mechanic around leaning into your characters chosen Oaths (you choose three) to get bonus XP. And if you break those oaths you just don't get that XP until you correct yourself. It isn't a d20 game, obviously, but I kind of like that.
>>97467258Nothing before 2013 was woke. The definition people like OP are running with is insane and completely unproductive.
>>97466890>Though I'm not too surprised to come across someone who doesn't understand the difference.actually i'm making a veiled accusation that, in truth, what you really want is for there to be no games with progressive ideals and for no games to be permitted to have progressive ideals>slurs>homophobia>antisemitism>racism>sexism>fats gotta catch a stray toolie all you like, we all know who you believe did nothing wrong and we all know how enthusiastic your side of the aisle is about censorship when you get to be the ones doing the censoring
>>97468159>we all know how enthusiastic your side of the aisle is about censorship when you get to be the ones doing the censoringHe's not asking for censorship, though, he's asking to be provide one (1) single system which isn't inundated with your side's ideology.
>>97468017Nah, the origins of this ideological rot go straight back to the post-WWII era of "Human rights" and became especially virulent in the 60's, thinkers like Noel Ignatiev were indesputably "Proto-woke" with such statements as "Treason against whiteness is loyalty to humanity".
>>97468159You have inverted what it means to be non-ideological.You have in fact, attempted to position your ideology as the "neutral" middleground, and that is simply not the case.
>>97462356Anon, your rules are so restrictive that they don't even include Racial Holy War.
>>97468347Nobody wants to play "Racial Holy War" though, because it's not functional as a game, and it tries too hard.Now if somebody wrote a skirmish game about the KKK versus Black Panthers, that would be cool.Naturally, I would have a KKK warband, and the CIA as my side-faction.
Land and Sea
>>97468396The premise doesn't really do it for me.Also the name man.What's in a name?All the hopes and dreams of the ones who christened it.It needed a better name.I'm glad Blaine Pardoe has work, and I hope it goes well for him.But it needs pizazz.It's missing something.
>>97462356>RaHoWa is woke
>>97468404>RaHoWa is not playable>And therefore less a game and more of a vaguely game-shaped act of masturbationDo not pass go, do not collect 200 Reichsmarks
>>97468351>>97468409They did make a functional version of the premise though. It's called Trench Crusade.
>>97468474>Concept art: the game>Owned and distributed by actual satanic tranniesNo thanks; I don't believe in giving money to people who hate me, and everything I believe is good, whilst exploiting the imagery associated with said people they hate, for profit.Tranch Crusade can die a death.
>>97464455The issue isn't having "strong feelings" but being mentally defective. Just remove b-cluster mongoloids from every discourse and things will automatically adjust regardless of ideological standing.
>>97462389>Best post
Does /tg/ not have mods anymore? How the fuck is this shitpost thread still up?
>>97468522I'm pretty sure overall posting is way down across all boards since the coof and even moreso since the hack. Shit threads like this make it appear like there is "engagement" so mods let it go on. That is to say if the mods aren't the ones making the threads in The first place.
>>97468522If you had your way, this whole board would be wall-to-wall pastelle coloured brown transbians battling "The Patriarchy".Somebody has to push back.
>>97468409>Still thinks RaHoWa is woke because it has shitskins
>>97468643There's not a single thread about that.
>>97468482That's the current line being circulated?Anon, they don't 'hate you and everything you believe is good'.You've just been told they hate you and everything you believe is good, by other people, who got filtered from the discord for literally just being off topic.>But they didn't expressly say I was welcome.Not everything needs to virtue signal.
>>97468522Look how much engagement it generated, it'll look so well on the numbers presented to advertisers, RapeApe will TRIPLE jannies' salaries!
>>97462356Here, this one OP, now are you going to stop bitching?
>>97462356My game has:- racial attributes- women have a social attribute bonus, but have a ceiling to their strength attribute - homosexuality, dwarfism, etc are all considered negatives given the period. - slavery (historical, not chattel as its period anachronistic) exists- atheism gets you killed. So does most magic use - renown and reputation can be gained by women but offer different social modifiers (most laws do not allow women to own property, for instance)- I’ve hidden a race inspired by a certain people who engage in graft and nefarious business dealings. They also worship a perverse demonic version of the more widespread church- the church is actually a good thing
>>97462520>Muh /pol/!
>>97462356>No faggots of any flavour>No browns of any shadeBut anon, by your own criteria, you won't be allowed at the table.
>>97462356prowlers has a couple nogs, but otherwise passes.
>>97462676it's actually really easy. you just don't include kikeshit. no preaching needed.
>>97469733Give a comprehensive list of "kikeshit." Let's see how your simple plan holds together.
>>97462716but the list isn't in the image????
>>97467801>I'm not deranged>globalist Jewish mafia
>>97466817yeah. that's not censorship.
>>97467315insane cope LOL
The saddest part about this piece of shit fucking thread is that it still has probably had more discussion about actual games than most others on the board right now.
>>97468159your beliefs are wrong.
>>97469747see the OP, retard.
>>97464455ironic statement
Notice how fish-fag and the ACKS 41% of a complete game II faggot never enter these obviously shit threads. Hide this crap since jannies have abandoned the site, just be thankfully they aren't spamming axewounds here like they do on /vg/.
the only good thread, you mean. nigger.
>and even a fair number of women are counted amo-WOKE.STICKING TO *ORIGINAL* D&D.GIRLS STICK TO GIRL GAMES.
>>97469775No.
>>97468918>playerbase is laveyan/wicca ultra trannies, pagans, libertarians, siegtardsNo doubt "filtered" means normal people and anyone in the latter groups of the playerbase that thought they were welcome. Regardless none of these people are an appealing group to be around.
>seething thread againman, the right sure seems upset these days.Why are they always the least happy after they've won?
>>97468918And they absolutely hate Christians and everything they believe in. The entire game's lore is blasphemous and offensive to people who follow even the most basic principles of the faith.
>>97469950Wait, but christians are objectively evil soul-harvesting death cultists IRL
>>97469968>disingenuous backslidingtypical of a TC defender. you're also definitely a member from one of the groups I don't fuck with. have a good day.
>>97469820The shitpost of an OP is too vague. Be precise and specific. What is kikeshit?
>>97469876Yes.
>>97470001No, it's quite specific and not vague at all, in fact.
>>97462356tabletop are all make believe retard just make a game for your stupid ass ideology if you can even get a group for it.sage
>>97470186Bump.
>>97470001somehow I knew this would come in handy again right away
>>97462356>/v/ refugee wants his culture war horseshit on /tg/Nigga our games have house rules and are imagination based. We make our fun, not accept what a corporation doles us out. You are not one of us.
>>97470407No, OP is entirely correct no matter how clumsily you try to pretend to be one of us. Speaking of good games though, I'll have to do some more reading of Oathhammer today, it seems pretty based so far.
>>97462356I don't know about every game in existence, but most of the OSR isn't actively gay-race-communist. Hyperborea is poz-free. Night Owl Workshop puts out solid, small OSR games in various genres, without poz. There are other games I like that just do games the old fashioned way, regardless of the beliefs of the publishers. I think Mongoose (Legend, Traveler) is OK, Design Mechanism (Mythras), just great rules and settings, no modern bs generally. Lots of smaller publishers, you just have to filter the big, captured companies.
>>97470614Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check those out too
>>97470141>>97470400I sincerely accept your concessions.
>>97462460>if there is something that is genuinely woke about the Xenos rampant book then I apologize for not noticing when I looked at the pdf and then bought the book.i mean, i know there's a saying, but i noticed something about the book's cover.is that...finished? like, that's the final draft, sent to printers?
>>97470741nah I accept yours
>>97470135No, and stop ban evading.
>>97471085>There's a thing that bothers me, I can't articulate it because it would clearly encompass a bunch of stuff so I'll just be vague as fuck and pretend the other party is not getting the thing I'm not saying
>>97471266groomy pls
>>97469627Little fucking kid going around to every thread showing the grown-ups his new toy.
>>97471987>"I'll do a quick Ad Hominen, that will distract them from the fact I have no argument"
>>97472061didn't read, cry to the judge when you are charged
>>97472127Remember: Sage goes in all fields, kids. Killing this thread as fast as possible.
>>97472204>if I don't get my way I'm going to hurt you!!!!!typical behavior from you types, gross to see in action
>>97462356None that are worth a shit. Your requests are "what games consciously go out of their way to take MY side in identity politics?" The answer is always and forever going to be: the ones that are absolutely worthless trash.Shut the fuck up about your fucking identity politics. It's not real. It doesn't reflect the world. It's a brand you have been sold because you were an easy mark. You have made someone else's marketing campaign into your personality. Grow the fuck up.
>>97472337bla bla bla you are exactly like the cool guys who tried to convince everyone to keep drinking the typhoid wellssorry champ we are moving on without you
>>97472369>muh brand loyalty is life and death!I'm well aware that you genuinely believe this. Educate yourself. Meet other human beings. Change. Grow up.
>>97472381>bla bla bla
>>97472424>I have no point and I must reeeeeSome part of you really is better than your mindless brand-loyalty to bumper stickers that you have been sold by talking heads. Just be decent to other people. Escape the identity politics mind-control that media echo-chambers have enslaved you with. Enough of your purity tests and no-true-scottsman fallacies.
>>97468331>You have in fact, attempted to position your ideology as the "neutral" middleground, and that is simply not the case.no, i have positioned myself as the moral superior and you as the immoral degenerate, try to keep up
>>97472240>"Your sage hurts me!"Based retard.
>>97472527Come now, surely you have somewhere better to be than slumming it with us down here well below the oakmilk free trade latte poverty line?
>>97469997>Can't tell multiple anons apartlolAlso man, the christians always act precisely like the trannies when you point out their flaws.
>>97472775Why are you political types always seething SO HARD about everything?
>>97472477On the grounds of fraudulent assumptions.You are not the arbiter of value judgments.Nor is Nambla, Noel Ignatiev, Ursula Von De Leyen, or The Prophet Mohammed.You are in fact, just a gay retard demanding acceptance.You'd think a person in your position would have the social sense to prove his charm and worth instead.Learn to work a crowd or it will turn against you, honey-baby.The days of state fiat are over.
>>97472819Why are the right wing posters always seething like this? What are you SO mad about?
>>97472807Come now, surely you have a better reply than projection when you are so enlightened that you could just leave.
>>97472830He's upset because leftists make all the good media.
>>97472835I'm new to this thread, I'm just noting you seem incredibly asspained over nothing.And you won't explain why, so great is your anger, apparently.I'm not sure HOW angry you have to be to make a thread like this and post like you do, but it must be a lot.
>>97472838That's probably the best explanation we're getting out of this thread, I guess.
>>97472842Come now, surely you as a newcomer you can behave better than you've acted so far.
>>97472859And now you're seething so hard you've reduced yourself to spamming the same comment over and over.
>>97472866just disappointed in you
>>97472873No, you're obviously and visibly angry. This entire thread was made out of political seethe, right wing flavor.
>>97472879seems like you are
>>97472894And now, so angry and embarrassed you have become, you are detaching from the conversation as much as possible and becoming near monosyllabic.
>>97472896I guess he was too upset to respond, and wanted to wait for me to go away to get easier people to seethe at.
>>97472896>>97472918>when the mad so spice he reply twice
>>97472941Ah, returned from your little break? Feeling calm enough now to tell us what made you so damn mad?
>>97472948>when him project
>>97472971How angry do you have to be to fail at a nou?
Helping this to get to bump limit. And sage.
OP is a fag
>>97473122>And seethe
>hours of OP seething and being made fun oflol
>>97473225>projection:P
>>97469929To those curious about the TC discord rules.There are literally just two.No posting gifs.No posting irl politics and/or religious stuff.Do it once, you get a warning,Keep doing it, you get kicked.If ‘mild self control’ makes someone ‘unappealing to be around’, then well…
>>97473288Fuck it I'll try it out. At least their mods are worth a shit apparently.
>>97467177My best friends are racists. I'm a Chinese guy, so I'm not all the way 'down there' on the tier of minorities, but racists are generally fine to be around as long as you don't try to correct them.And yeah, I hate black people and other minorities too, so we have a common cause.
>>97470407Friendly reminder:>/pol/ didn't introduce trigger warnings or the X-card in games>/pol/ wasn't the one who rewrote Curse of Strahd to make Strahd a homo and to give the cripples a bit of spit-and-polish.>/pol/ didn't invent the combat wheelchair, or claim that cripples would be useful in combat.>/pol/ didn't petition for the complete removal of any mention of slavery from the Pathfinder setting>/pol/ didn't post that hilariously bad 5E errata.>/pol/ didn't remove the Confederacy from Deadlands>/pol/ didn't start an international incident by claiming that vampires were responsible for the gay death camps in Chechnya.>/pol/ didn't write the incredibly cringey antifa rants in the latest edition of Vampire>/pol/ didn't invent Fruity Rudy, the gay black antifa Muslim Gangrel Anarch>/pol/ didn't push for the removal of always-Evil races from D&D>/pol/ didn't equate orcs with blacks>/pol/ didn't write stuff like Sigmata or Ugly Sword Trannies>/pol/ wasn't the one who invented two new cities of drow, because the drow being evil was 'racist'.>/pol/'s not the one pushing for more diversity in RPGs>/pol/ wasn't the one who did that cringey 'Warhammer is for Everyone' announcement>/pol/ didn't force White Wizard Games to change the name to Wise Wizard Games>/pol/ didn't want female Custodes in 40KThose were all political actions done by terminally-online leftists.You made games political. You wanted RPGs to reflect your values, and in doing so turned them into part of the culture war.A pushback isn't only to be expected, it's the right course of action for all non-insane people.REAP WHAT YOU SOW
>>97473300you see? all it took was someone agreeing with your politics under the guise of allowing no politics and you're a fan for lifeyou should stay there!
>>97472800>Said in an overly smiley, slow, mildly patronising voice.“We’re a religion of peace. The only true religion of goodness and love. We’re here to tell you that god LOVES you, and sees you.Convert to us, or you’re going to suffer being burned for eternity.Your grandmother? She was a good person? Was she a Christian? She never heard of it? Well, she’ll be burning in external hellfire right now, for not repenting for her sins and turning to almighty god, and his boundless love. As shown in this book. Ooh you mustn’t leave. Chapter 7 verse 4 of the third book in this book says if you do right now you’ll be damned for all eternity to perpetual suffering.”Hearing that from a middle aged suburban white woman who never stops smiling like she’s permanently on a drug high is one of the creepiest things I’ve ever experienced in my life. It’s like some cult serial killer shit.
>>97473330Friendly reminder.No one actually cared, or got offended by any of that very much except /pol/.At worst, things like the combat wheelchair or X cards induced lols.At best, Mexican orcs or female Custodes were actually received with interest.It’s just /pol/ that cries and pisses and shits itself over schitzo strawman takes from this stuff.So we are asking, would you kindly piss and shit yourselves over on >>>/pol/, and not here.That is the board for that pissing and shitting in. Not this one.
>>97473330Man the woke movement really fucked up games a lot. They really did bring it upon their own heads, I hope the backlash drives them out of the industry. Now I'm really glad I voted for Trump
>>97473449>No one actually cared, or got offended by any of that very much except /pol/.It's funny how you fags keep trying to rewrite history. People very much cared and were very much pissed at that. Denying that just makes you look retarded.
>>97473388Let's be honest, all that and it's still better than Islam, which is a literal plague upon the Earth. It looks positively benign compared to the Muslims.
>>97473330For what it's worth, Strahd being gay or bi or whatever never felt "political" or forced. That stuff has been all over vampire stories for generations. Carmilla, anyone? Homophobes should just stay away from vampires, honestly. It's not worth it. You're never going to win there.
>>97473893Strahd's entire thing is his lust for a woman. Carmilla was explicitly a lesbian vampire, but Dracula was pretty much 100% heterosexual i.e. He was a syphilitic foreign rapist with saw-teeth and hairy hands who wanted to fuck all the nubile women in London. That's the subtext.In fact the main reason why the cast is scared of him is because Dracula is so masculine, it's like they're starring in an NTR story where they're the cucks.
>>97473893>CarmillaThe references to Carmilla are pretty much modern libs trying to say "Look, we can be super-gay too!"If you want to go more modern, you can say that Lestat was a fag, but Edward only liked women.
>>97473847You mean "people" who arrived in 2016 with the express intent of politicizing 4chan.
>>97473388my grandmother was a terrible person, and the christianity was a large part of it.It convinces evil people they are righteous, like you.
>>97473954oh, I didn't read the whole post and now I look silly, whoop.
>>97473449Nice try but no, plenty of people were pissed off by that. As you would know if you actually played games rather than just post about them in your online spaces, faggot.
>>97473893Dracula's entire thing was homoerotic. Stoker was gay. He started writing it the day after his boyfriend, Oscar Wilde, was convicted of unnatural love. It's a horror story about forbidden love turning someone into a monster. Two plus two equal what? More than three, less than five... I can never quite put my finger on it.
>>97473917>Dracula was pretty much 100% heterosexualWhew lad. History exists and you can read about it.
>>97473976>I was VERY pissed off by the combat wheelchairlol, lmao even, holy fuck I can't believe you would admit to this.
>>97473946>4chan was always liberal guys
>>974740114chan was always immature. But those of us who have been here for a long time? We grew up, anon. And we're tired of your shit.
>>97473994If you don't care, why are you here? Affecting disinterest is for teenagers.
>>97474017Yeah anon, they all grew up and voted Democrat and for open borders and for Kamala. #MeToo #ImWithHer amirite?Oh wait, except that didn't happen
>>97474019I'm here to laugh at you seething, duh.You're very angry about combat wheelchairs, after all, which is absurd.>>97474011cope, newfag.
>>97474032>more /pol/ shitAnon just take it where it belongs: >>>/pol/
>>97474032Honestly I've just been voting against /pol/faggotry since 2016 when you faggots decided to come here from reddit.The worst ambassadors of your cause possible, I swear.
>>97474032This, it's weird how the redditors assume everyone is by default a lib of some kind
>>97474055>those LIBERALS are behind people calling us newfags!
>>974740114chan votes for whatever's funny. Let's face it, Trump is funny and racism is funny. Claiming that /tg/ has a social conscience is retarded.
>>97474076Man, you people never bother to lurk in your chosen board for more than like two weeks
>>97474085You even post like a smug HR Karen, does it really surprise you that you're despised
>>97474104>You, enemy tribe, are despised! Surely there is no other reason to dislike my shitposting invader ways!Lurk moar, newfag.
>>97474032To be honest I wouldn't have given a shit if not for the invasive effect this was having on all mediaJust give me a Star Wars sequel with a white male protagonist and let me die in peace, but they couldn't even let me have that
>>97473979Sorry manDeath of the author, that's how it works
>>97474122>he kept watching after the prequelsjesus christ your generation are fucking pathetic.
>>97473449For me it was the race and ancestry shit that made me realize something had to be done
>>97474137Hey, it's better than admitting you were offended by combat wheelchairs.
>>97474104they always out themselves in the end
>>97474146>Seething about being called out as an invaderlol
>>97474143Oh it can be both
>>97474152They can't help it, it's all they know.They've been seething constantly for over a decade.
>>97474128I don't understand what that's supposed to mean, but thanks for the apology? It's ok though I wasn't related to him.
>>97474156I can't fathom how much of a cuck you have to be to have anything more than a giggle at combat wheelchairs.
>>97474137The thing is that all those retarded changes DIDN'T NEED TO HAPPENwho were they even for? What was the target audience?If they'd just called that one person stupid and laughed, it wouldn't have been a thing.
>>97474176The makers of these things just do what they like.What, do you think 4e was market researched? are you retarded?
>>97462356Just play Call of Cthulhu like a normal person.
>>97474176It was political, anon. They thought they were making a statement.And they were, just not in the way they hoped.
>>97474193It's far more important that he be mad than he play games.
>>97474194They apparently ruffled the feathers they wanted to ruffle, given the threads like these.
>>97474201They can't take the gatekeeping.
>>97474176Every single D&D table, ever, has picked the lore they liked and discarded what they didn't care about. You've picked the lore you disliked and turned it into a personality. It's pathetic.
>>97474216Tabletop is an accessory to politics to these people.Playing games is secondary. They're here because the authors are faggots or trans or whatever the fuck flag they're flying this week.
>>97474216But how does this affect you personally?
>>97474228well, it makes op come here to seethe on repeat, which is pretty funny.
>>97471248Yes.
>>97474259Man I can't even see what you're seething about without going to some kind of archival site, I got here too late for the add on.
>>97472337no one's buying it, kike.
>>97474269Nou, sheckleberg.
>>97474011We've literally had discords try to "change board culture" several times, shit happens more often than you'd think
>>97472838Nice delusion LOL
>>97474276We've also had a number of raids from /pol/ and reddit.And a consistent push by japmoot to make more political arguing.
>>97474283Why else would you make a thread like this?
>>97473449nope he's right and you lose.
>>97474303No,u faget
>>97474228It shits up what used to be a good board.
>>97473893yeah man the dracula novel is super gay, protag definitely doesn't almost get raped by three vamp sluts in the first 40 pages
>>97474333
>>97474017you sound like a chatbot LOL
>>97474333>>97474339I remember they had Monica Bellucci to be one of them in the movie, she was fucking hot.
>>97474108Tribism is good, retard.
>>97474357So why are you so shocked and surprised when the tribe that was already here doesn't like a new tribe showing up to bitch about some third tribe?
>>97462356I'm not gonna throw an asshurt marxist tantrum like many embarrassing faggots here, but this criteria is too vague. I don't know what "moral perversions" or "good goy moral platforming" is supposed to mean. And no disabled characters? Does that exclude a peg-legged pirate with an eye patch? An old wizard with a walking cane? A war veteran with a prosthetic arm?
>>97474289still seething? kek
>>97474364>>97474357truly, /pol/fags are the mexicans to /tg/'s america.
>>97474375nope, 4chan is pol, bitch.
>>97474369nou lol
>>97474377Just like how mexicans claim to be america.
>>97474364I was the first person ever to post on /tg/ retard
>>97473288Bullshit. Swaths of people got banned because they weren't the "correct" type of person. And now they are a failure of a little company, already trying to become GW 2.0 while putting out faulty or outright dangerous product to the people who supported them.
>>97474385Nope.
>>97474384nah
>>97474386I don't know anything about TC, what did they do that was dangerous?
>>97474390>>97474389Ah, the early bird truly gets the worm.
>>97474396So a big thing they focused on in their crowdfunding was 3D printing, which they seem to be abandoning and it's up in the air if they'll ever release their license to allow 3rd parties to create models for printing (so far they'd just sicced lawyers on them). Now the problem with the models they made? Shitty, the files are full of empty space which when you 3D print can allow the very hot material to just sit there in the model. This builds gas over time. And eventually...>>POPSo you can imagine someone fully painting up a model, happy as can be. Maybe it happens and no one gets hurt, or maybe it happens when you're handling it and the searing hot resin gets on your hands/arms/face.
>>97467705>My bf is fairly white nationalistWhite nationalism really is the domain of gays
>>97474386>Bullshit. Swaths of people got banned because they weren't the "correct" type of person.And how would they know, in this little fantasy idea?'People' came, joined up, agreed to the very basic rules manually, then broke them by talking politics, talking religion, and couldn't help themselves.There IS a 'correct' type of person there, but while you seem to think it's the theo-political "other/bad/wrongthink people", it's REALLY just 'people who can put that aside'.
>>97474368Performative virtual signalling, basically. No homosexuals, no stronk empowered womyn, no transbians, no minorities where there shouldn't be any.By 'no disabled characters', it's pretty obvious it means that none of them are depicted as capable above and beyond what they should be.A peg-leg is a huge liability in a fight. So is a prosthetic arm. An old wizard with a walking cane can't take a punch in the face, because he's an old guy with brittle bones, and it's silly to pretend otherwise. (Also, an old guy isn't disabled. He's just old.)
>>97474486Horseshoe theory is the most correct of all political theory.
>>97474695I would believe you but you cry all the same when they show up in settings set in present time or sci-fi
>>97475422How so? I mean, setting aside everything else, I have no problem with disabled people showing up. It's only a problem when they are given top billing without the drawbacks.For instance, Daredevil is blind, but it's excusable because him being blind is a huge disability that his radar sense barely makes up for.Zatochi is blind, and his gimmick is "Holy shit, this blind man is nearly as dangerous as an able-bodied man!" and being blind fucks him constantly.But then you have WoW's one-armed black Paladin womyn who is supposedly as good as an able-bodied fighter, or the combat wheelchair in melee.It's pretty obvious there is a big difference.
>>97475590>WoW'sWarcraft? Does it have a ttrpg? I assume the drawback of a one arm paladin is not having a shield, how does it work there?
>>97475609Warcraft in fact has a TTRPG, though no-one played it.And oh boy, it's fucking dumber than you might think.
>>97476222Oh, so its just /v/ shit. If the lady got herself a magic item I see no issue. Most of those settings have enough magic bullshit to justify the equivalent of an impairment aid for a good fighter. I just imagine is the equivalent of high quality prosthetic, not everyone can get one but they sure work if you manage to get one.
>>97476222imagine being so weak you can't even lift a shield with your shoulder kek
>>97476222This is supposed to be female? lol
>>97473449>hmm, the mexican orcs and female custodes shire are interesting - said literally no oneStfu and kys you stupid faggot tranny.
>>97462389This is the wayAlso this board is totally cucked
>>97462675>MyFarogI unironically own this game but have never run it. Didn't he come out with a newer version recently? Also, serious question, is it even good?
>>97473330Yeah Strahd was super straight before 5e fucked up Ravenloft by making half the important NPCs gay or black, he literally had a whole harem of 20+ vampire bitches that Jander and his priest ally had to stake
>>97474357It's spelled tribadism, dipshit.
>>97473917>but Dracula was pretty much 100% heterosexualNot in the Uncut version Stoker okay'd for publication in America. There he was a Bisexual menace, explicity proclaiming his control over Harker when his other bitches tried to succ him.
>>97474285This board is being raided by redditors right now like puckee
>>97462356
>>97462356warhammer 40k.
>>97477457Well that just isn't true
>>97476346Why do rightoids post that when their most popular move is to pretend ignorance?Is it because their second most popular move is projection?
>>97478797If the right accuses the leftists/liberals/gays of being something or doing something, odds are it's something the right is doing.>Pedophilia.>Fake news.>Blatantly fake news. Just making shit up to fearmonger about 'da enemy'.>Deny, deflect, scandal.>Victim blaming due to circuitous logic so people with power don't lose out.>Selective tolerance of bad things, and intolerance of good things.>Defy the powers and the powers shoot you.They are the real annoying trannies.
>>97466817There's a big difference between "I don't want to play games with this" and "I don't want you to be in the hobby at all". I also disagree with multiple of OP's non-negotionables, but I could imagine myself playing a game with him, while I would not play a game with safety tools simply because including them at all is a concession that others should be able to make arbitrary restrictions on what I am allowed to do in a game.
>>97477434>pro free-speech/anti-censorshipNewfags should know that SJWs samefag really hard to convince leftists they are "alt-right"/"far-right" or whatever bogeyman they can tar you with. They want you lumped into the American bi-partisan nonsense. SJWs refuse to engage with liberals and leftists.They'll respond to your posts all day if they think they can pin some lowball US insult on you, tell them you are a liberal and they avoid you like the plague. Some of the well meaning(stupid) ones might try to hit you with high horse shit like >>97474017Did I mention the discord raids?Anyway, OP, best thing to do is play pre-millennials-in-industry games and play within friend groups.
>>97462356>No faggots of any flavourBut you'll be playing.
OP back again. God DAMN this thread blew up... with a whoooole lot of retards arguing about stupid shit. Again: this post was not bait, and it was not supposed to be about politics. I'm not a denizen of /pol/, and if I wasn't forced to care by the state of the world, I wouldn't. Figures a bunch of Jews would try and derail conversations about how to avoid their Jewry tho. Shout-out, btw, to the retards who don't understand the difference between a bad design ethos and a product of one, or apparently what's waiting for them further on down the slippery slope they're defending.Anyway, there have been some absolutely killer replies about games that I'm really excited to look into, and I seriously appreciate everyone who bothered to stand up for me (who I won't be tagging so as to not be raiped by anti-spam again).So far the list includes:>Xenos rampant>Critter conflicts>Engine heart>Myfarog>ACLS>Pendragon>Deathwatch>OathHammer>Castles and Crusades>Land and Sea>Mythic BastionLand>ProwlersCheers again to everyone who's actually been helpful, and to the rest:TALK ABOUT GAMES, YOU RETARDED NIGGERFAGGOTS
>>97480005It seems impossible for OP to live in the world he dreams of.
>>97477434Cheers anon, that's a pretty good list (minus the censorships and bit about "too many white guys")
>>97462428At least I get to enjoy the lord of the rings. Tolkien was full blown blood and soil. Non-whites will never truly understand lotr and never get to fully enjoy the ultimate fantasy progenitor.
>>97462356/awg/ mentioned free rules.With two of them being No Limits being the science fiction game rules.And No Quarter being fantasy rules.Both are setting/mini agnostic in 28mm scale.I think there are settings made for them but I’m not sure. If there is then I missed them when I skimmed the no limits pdf on my phone.https://noquarterwargames.wordpress.com/https://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/Again both are setting agnostic and mini agnostic. But it seems they cater to 28mm scale so 15mm scale or lower may have difficulty.>If it brings any comfort OP.A lot of what looks like left leaning trolling are actually /pol/trolls pretending to be those they hate.
>>97474017>us
>>97480020I don't believe you OP, and take that as a compliment because the alternative is that your mentally retarded. This entire thread is about politics, because your problems gets solve very fucking fast by grabbing any setting agnostic system like GURPS and create any world you want as you want. The rest is bullshit. You can't go and say "I just want to avoid this political buzzword but this is tot not about politics, you guys, teehee" and expect anyone here to take you seriously kys
>>97474017They hated him, for he spoke the truth.
>>97472830>>97472838Why don't you two fags get a room?
>>97474143offended by? My whole gaming group laughed at it, it's a complete joke.
>>97474223surely no one believes this right? The left spent the last 2 decades infiltrating white male spaces and now they think it's always been gay?Are you retarded or just pretending?
I think I can summarize the miscommunication in this thread.Some people live in a predominantly white community with 95% of people being straight and white.Yes, this means that for a game to be apolitical, it should reflect their REAL LIFE, and be 95% straight and white.Why is that so hard to understand?
>>97479797>Enjoy your (((You))), troon.It is a beautiful view. Don't forget to do a backflip.
>>97481403no boomer fondly thinks of record of lodos, this image is shit.
>>97478797Ironic.
>>97480005
>>97481403>Why is that so hard to understand?It's not a miscommunication and no one fails to understand, anon. You want your table to be straight and white? Great dude. Run that game.That's a world of difference from DEMANDING that the rest of the world and the market-place of ideas conform to the fact that you live in bumfuck Idaho. PS: your uncle is gay, your priest is diddling children, and every single thing you've ever eaten was picked or processed by brown people.Your straight, white world isn't your reality. It's your fetish. Keep it to yourself.
>>97480174No, leftists are just retards.
>>97481403If we are being "REAL" for a moment then lets remind folks that as war gamers we are not actually socially accepted in those 95% straigtht/white communities. They expect your life to be your job, followed by parenting kids, and if you must engage in frivolous recreation maybe sports and social drinking, and if they ever tolerate an exception its the one guy who knows how to operate the organ at church, or a geneologist where they still don't like such flagrant displays of autism they just struggle to vocalize a good argument without disrespecting thier elders.
>>97482755>Nope, day of the rope soon bitchIt's just a fantasy you people have invented for yourselves. You even have your own cute little holidays you pray for.
>>97482762it's not 1950 anymore bro
>>97482763nope it's real :)
>>97482800It is in a 95% straight/white community. I was raised mormon, the way they actually stayed 95% straight/white was by passive aggressively enforcing that 1950's ethos in all aspects of your life.
>>97462356Wait for the game Arch and Sargon is making
>>97482896Sargon? As in... the second or third most influential semite in the history of human civilization? I didn't know he made wargames but some chariot models'd be cool.
>>97482936I meant Carl Benjamin, he uses the name Sargon of Akkad as a pseudo
>>97482989I know. I was making a joke that white nationalists are so stupid that they name themselves after the most powerful semitic king in history.
>>97483009And leftists think, british nationalism is automatically "white" nationalism
>>97480074>At least I get to enjoy the lord of the ringYou realise he said no faggots right? Sam and Frodo immediately disqualify LOTR.
>>97483015Lol. Is that the spin you guys currently cling to? How's that working for you? Lemme do a quick google and... nope: no one is buying it.
>>97462356It's only woke if you let it be. It's up to your group to keep it kino....
>>97483066And don't buy the stuff from GW, WOTC, and similar companies, unless it's absolute necessaryWhen it comes to rules...OnePageRule exists, and otherwise, sailing the seven sees is also legit
>>97483074I never do. It's all pdfs for free online!
>>97482741absolutely seething
>>97483017> Sam and FrodoPlatonic love aint gay faggot
>>97483428>Haha, I accused you of being mad!Do you guys think that actually works as an argument, somehow? Does it make you feel better before you close a tab in shame? I can never figure it out what you're trying to accomplish with it.
>>97464354Really not fond of this kind of behavior where someone is being the nastiest, most hateful kind of freak possible but tries to frame it like they're sad and tired and to be pitied
>>97483451
>>97483484>I can't lose an argument if I never make one!Fair enough.
>>97483569Are you a bot or something, the pics are related
>>97483608The pictures are you having nothing to say, regurgitating other peoples' memes because you haven't a thought of your own. But try to make more implications I won't read, if you like.
>>97477434>>97480047The list has definitely changed since 2021.
>>97481391You literally are a foreign invader on this board and in this hobby, you redditfugee>>97482718No, it's entirely expected of rightoids.
>>97482746You can't get dumber than rightoids. They're an invasive species.
>Rightoids say tabletop is for fags, avoid it>this is the case for decades>tabletop becomes cool>Rightoid normalfags infest it, pretend they were always hereMaybe you should go back to wherever you crawled from if you don't like absolutely nothing here catering to you.
>>97482652At this point you're more likely to kill yourself than any tranny, given your mental problems.
>>97483631Thinking for yourself is leftist only behavior.
and 'ere I was gonna suggest Sword World.Free from any of the chaos that has infested the current day chaos, a snapshot from another country's take on TTRPGs.
>>97483959That's not even true tho, tabletop was for nerdy white guys, who skew conservative/libertarian. It became cool then the trans and women started to invade
>>97462356G/v/psy get ye gone
>>97484130Nah Anon cooked with that one, don't you remember that nerdy white guys used to be ostracized? Back when we were niche white conservatives traditionally only cared about "hard work" and "prosperity without luxury" as signs of ones "righteousness" and so traditionally hated all fictional media, hence thier treatment of "nerds" for decades and the constant moral panics of any popular trend.Now of course that doesn't make the nerds leftoids nor did anon suggest that, just that the rightoid narrative that was always thier space is laughably easy to disprove given the verifiable history of traditionalist moral panics bent on destorying nerdy culture until it became apparent the winds had shifted.
>>97477434Based
>>97485096>their, us, we, them...Nta but i have to interject for a moment to say this: i'm sick and tired of this bullshit partisan manichean dichotomy. There's no us or them, the division is artificial, only existing in the confines of online discourse and that was the case in pre-OWS hobbies/interests culture. If you are so ideologically possessed or lacking of internal monologue in having that shit bleeding irl than that's what you're supposed to call out, not whatever is the person's stand in this fake and gay cultural unrest. And giving the devil what is due it's not because of conservative types that shit escalated this much, you can't expect them to not rebuke when the whole mediatic iconography has moved to a constant shit test on their behalf, and i also understand that's what built up under evangelical types push years before but the underlying issue is always because of allowing spiritually puritanical types to control discourse. Just fucking recognize them beyond their skinsuit and call them out alogside the useful idiots retards polluting your life and time.Stop playing a game you didn't even agree to be part of, it's about time.
>>97485693>pre-OWS hobbies/interests culturelol as long as people have YOUR identity politics and agreee with YOU about who the "evangelical types" are, right? And somehow I doubt you think they're evangelicals.
>>97485872You know you can try to articulate your point instead of simply assuming right? Anyways my "side" is quite simple: i'm out of your bipartisan illusion because it is, in fact, fake. I specifically cited OWS because that's the point where things turned, idpol is simply horizontal warfare existing only to impede the vertical one, the one regarding the relationship of forces and the only one that actually matter.
>>97485891I'd love to be able to agree with you because yes: identity politics are a bullshit distraction explicitly being capitalized on to prevent the underclass from siezing power. That was very much an explicit strategy of the people who went on TV and announced the launch of the "culture war" on 8/17/1992. But something tells me that if you define the protests against bailouts for wallstreet at the expense of taxpayers as the "turning point," you're very much part of it.
>>97485916I was FOR OWS anon, i don't know why you seem to think otherwise.
>>97485937Hey maybe my assumptions about you are in the wrong. It's a weird-ass thing to pick as the "turning point" unless you buy into a very large number of very strange conspiracies about it. But good on you, anon--sorry if I made a false assumption.
>>97485945I'm not aware of any conspiracy about OWS, it seems very straightforward to me. I defined it ad "turning point" because exactly after that institutions (both political and corporate) ramped up the culture war, as in there was a visible spike in that regard with a more pervasive penetration never experienced before (eg: social networks). I'm an oldfuck anon, i was there when i saw with my own eyes small Internet communities, which i was part of, literally destroyed in a manner of few months because of hordes of 'tards appearing from nowhere, it was unprecedented.
>>97485963I'm still weirded out by your picking 2011 as when those things happened considering... it doesn't matter. Hi fellow old.
>>97485972Maybe i'm missing something, be free to correct me, don't leave me hanging. Yes, there are more significant events you can pinpoint as historical turning points but in my case i'm specifically referring to what we (on 4chan, xitter, reddit, etc...) are experiencing within the confines of internet discourse, the landscape significantly changed from there.
>>97485985Nah you're good. I'd say the watershed moments were very much 2007 and 2016, but it doesn't matter.
>>97483470nobody gives a fuck what you're fond of, tranny. get gassed.
>>97483946>>97483952mad dumb and ugly lol
>>97483959gygax was a nazi ya dumb troon
>>97485096Yeah, nerdy white guys were ostracized, and they were conservative.
>>97485693Tribalism is correct and morally good.
>>97485945It's not weird and most conspiracy theories are accurate.
>>97485972Ooh I get it you two are beating around the bush over now.
>>97485096Nerdy white guys aren't brown and they aren't troons or fags, I'd rather be ostracized by normal whites than included with you faggots
>>97486118From personal experience I can't deny I was "conservative" as a nerdy white kid, but I would characterize my conservatism more as, raised in it, might even borrow some moral foundations from it, but ultimately jaded and apathetic because again much of the moral panics against nerd cultures have been driven by "fellow conservatives". So the idea of nerds aligning with conservatives in adulthood is about as braindead as watching my former birth religion the mormons aligning with the evangelicals. Its very clear who is gonna turn on who once they get what they want out of the relationship.
>>97486178>nerdy white kidyou're still a nerdy white GUYGosh, get a load of this guy, he's such a reject that the rejects rejected him.
>>97486190And If I want to keep being a nerdy white guy and not a geneologist I wouldn't vote for the same people as religious conservatives that historically have wanted to punish me for having a hobby that isn't "work, family, church, maybe sports". I don't see how you can repeatedly fail to grasp this concept.
>>97486122Tribalism is the primordial truth of blood and sword where all defaults to when everything falls apart, not a good place to live in. Sure, pretending that doesn't exist is foolish, just as much as opposing it, but fully embracing it only leads to a death spiral.>inb4 some groups are allowed to be fully tribalistic currently while mine notYes, i'm aware, that's why i'm advocating in striking down whoever sticks his head out indiscriminately, not out of some moral implications but because it's the only way to prevent the fire in consuming everything.
>>97486215>that historically have wanted to punish me for having a hobbyThat's not true tho, they want to punish you for being useless. >work, family, churchThose aren't hobbies, they're essential units of society and basic human needs. church can mean any form of spirituality, hypothetically even atheism can fill this niche. Work can mean any form of productivity, again, hypothetically even painting miniatures can be your work if you want it to be. Family can even mean your weird ass polycule if you insist on being a faggot.Most would infer from your writing that you intend to replace work, family, and church with miniature gaming... like wtf bruh, that's fucking weirdYou're like a child that thinks the class president will make all school lunches candy and ice cream, and replace all classes with recess. Work, family, and church is good for you anon, eat your fucking vegetables (vegetables being an analogy for the stuff in your life that takes effort but is good for you long term.)
>>97483997lol
>>97462356>4. No browns of any shadeWell I *was* going to suggest Bolt Action, it even has your favorite guys in it as a major faction, but between Italian Colonial troops, Indian/Sheikh units, and the 92nd infantry, I'm afraid there's just too many browns for you to spam MG42 fire at :(.
>>97487111You had me at>Spam mg42 firePlus, fuck me,>at indiansGod-tier therapy desu. As long as the books arent glazing anybody as the objectively righteous heroes or framing anyone as "teh ultimately e-vil Saturday morning cartoon villain" I'm super down. It sounds like the kind of game with a relatively normal playerbase, too.
>>97484109The honorary aliens (gookmoot notwithstanding) actually sometimes understand what makes medieval high-fantasy great even better than western devs, so I will absolutely be giving this a look. Cheers anon
>>97486262No, it's good. Kike.
>>97487511Kikes are one of those groups that should absolutely need less tribalism, how would my point make sense if i was one? Talmudism is especially detrimental since ties religion with tribalism, and the thing should be acknowledged by them and everyone else.
>>97487319I'll level with you, I gave only read the mechanics of the rulebook. I'm pretty familiar with the lore lol. >Spam MG42 fireAnd how, Germany gets an extra shot on all their machine guns and they can take an ass load. In addition their officers can "snap to" an extra unit (meaning you get three extra activations to every else's two), they don't care if they lose their NCO in a unit, and one veteran (expensive) tank can be a panzer ace and completely overkill most other tanks. Cheapest ace chassis is a hetzer, I prefer the PzIV for the turret if I take the ace at all. Usually I'm putting down PzIIIs and 222s because I play DAK. The temptation to load everyone up on hanomags is tremendous, but that's not really a early war north Africa vibe. The 88 is, but I don't like artillery in Bolt Action.
>>97483959I'm a leftist and I hate sjws
>>97487319If you had replaced>4. No browns of any shadewith>4. No browns depicted as objectively goodMost pre-2010s TTRPGs would satisfy your requirements.
>>97487624Nobody's buying it, kike.
