On page 113 of the 5e D&D rulebook, it states: "Most wizards believe that their counterparts in ancient civilizations knew secrets of magic that have been lost to the ages." Why do wizards believe this?
>>97463466If the book doesn't elaborate on it, you're supposed to make it up. The writers of D&D have always been so lazy as to charge money for their unfinished product, then expect the buyer to do their job for them, and it's no different with 5e or 5.5e or D&Done or whatever the fuck they're calling it now.
>>97463466I'm proud of you, Puckee. You posted this 77 times, but this is the first time you actually cracked open an actual RPG book and referenced actual text on the page! So I will give you an honest answer.Every class description in the 5e PHB starts with what the class is, then a section on what they do, and then why they do it. These are meant to help you in creating a character by telling you what role they'd play in a group or what sort of fictional character archetype they'd fit into, and then, most importantly, why they would go on adventures with a party. Saying wizards believe there's better ancient magic out there waiting to be discovered is a simple, straightforward plothook to explain why they'd be out exploring and traveling, instead of staying in a library. Since you are meant to find spellbooks, scrolls, and enchanted items, this also holds as a general truism that players immediately understand.
>>97463496But why would the majority of wizards, across all possible settings to be run in D&D, believe this one thing even if it's not plausible for the setting?
>>97463546Now, puckee, that is a retarded question and you should stop pretending to care about worldbuilding and settings and RPGs in general, because you can't even keep it up for a single post.
>>97463551It's what the rulebook says. Most wizards believe this. How can that be possible in all settings?
>>97463555Because the rules were written for all settings and contradictory settings will establish their own lore. Specific beat general. A concept you'd understand if you actually read the rulebook and didn't just flip to the section on the wizard class to try and find something to go with your shitty artstation wizard girl picture that you love so much.
>>97463466Its a tounge in cheek wink to spells that existed in earlier versions of D&D but not in 5e
>>97463577>puckstalker is a storyshitter lmao
>>97463605but between older editions and 5e it might have just pased 100 years, humans live like 80 years and elves a few hundreds, why consider that "ancient civilizations"?
>puckee thread
>>97463555If I thought you had a brain I'd tell you to try using it.
>>97463466I really hate it when RPG rulebooks dictate character motivations like this. Fuck you, I decide what my character believes in, not whatever Seattle coffeeshop frequenting danger hair that wrote the book.
>non-participatory survey thread designed to create the illusion of engagementKill yourself you fucking faggot
Zak Jg, also know as puckee, is a spammer and must be permanently banned.https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/vpej2o/alexandra_alex_dempsey_wizard_art_by_kartstudio/https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/image/N3Sq777FS4rhWvf8QeFGwQ/puckee spams his ai-assisted slop commissions here, on reddit, and on facebook, over and over; he even uses the same basic bland posts across platforms, sometimes word for word.
>>97463551D&d takes place in the forgotten realms, not just any setting. Duh.
>>97463466>>97463555The rulebook also tells you about halflings and gnomes, but those don't exist in all fantasy settings.The answer to your question is that the rulebook isn't written for all settings. This should be painfully obvious when you spend more than 2 seconds thinking about it.
>>97463466Because in most published DnD settings ancient wizards used to live in magical uber societies like Netheril (Forgotten Realms), the Baklunish and the Suel empire (Greyhawk), the Holy Empire of Istar (Dragonlance) and whatever the old uber civilisation of Mystara, Dark Sun and Ebberon might have been.So yeah, "the wizards in the ancient uber society of 50 flying mage cities got more shit going than i do right now sitting in Baldurs Gate" seems pretty self explanatory.
faggot and faggot janny
>>97465636But what if I'm playing in the setting when there is no great ancestor civilization? That would render wizards practically unplayable since they would have no motivation to adventure.
Yes
>>97463466>Why do wizards believe this?Fighters probably believe it too. It's objectively true. You can still see the ruins of all they made.
>>97467542One, you're never going to play a fucking game, so that's not a concern. Two, you could just ignore it. It's flavor text, not rules, you dense faggot.
>>97467542>But what if I'm playing in the setting when there is no great ancestor civilization?1. It's an inherent concession of the game system. It's called DUNGEONS and dragons. You can't dungeon crawl without dungeons. You can't have dungeons without dungeon makers. And if they're still around that's not a dungeon crawl, it's armed burglary.2. Even real life has great ancestor civilizations. How do you think the average Akkadian felt seeing Göbeklitepe? Unless you're talking playing as homo erectus, there's always an older civilization, and unless you've had a lot of progress since the last reset, they probably were more advanced than you right before they collapsed. Honestly the last 600 years have been a major upset in the typical pattern. We're long overdue for an effacing cataclysm but we keep dodging them, so humanity's fully breaking new ground right now unless you believe in Atlantaean hoopla.
>>97465317Why does everything have to go in a general? Blocking your view?
>>97467542>>97463466You forget that the real world is full of many occultists which claim that there were ancient civilizations which possessed esoteric knowledge that have been lost to the ages. It is also formerly true of historians and philosophers, who believed all manner of cool bullshit about the wisdom of the ancients until recent centuries.
>>97468051to upset you, dumb fag.
>>97468080>checks catalogue >lots of threads not in generals >(you) still seething funny that
>>97468219>no u
>>97463466>puckee spamming his commission againhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/vokhhf/alexandra_alex_dempsey_wizard_art_by_kartstudio/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/N3Sq777FS4rhWvf8QeFGwQ/>78 times
>>97467542>But what if I'm playing in the setting when there is no great ancestor civilization?then the text simply does not apply? >That would render wizards practically unplayable since they would have no motivation to adventureDo you have stupid?
Blow it out your ass!
>>97468051Everything doesn't have to go in a general, just the things that belong in a general.
>>97468219>not every criminal is in jail, so crime is okay!
