>Thread Question
I wouldn't claim to have the hard and fast recipe, unlike somebody, but we could use less sectarianism. So much of our energy is spent fighting each other, that we make New World progressive thinkers look like a single front by comparison.
>>97463500
>Revelation is either a true believer in her cause
Don't believe her. Please...
>will attract true believers
She had a cult before she started this nonsense, everything she does is more recruitment.
>Describe what you've seen of the thing, Unfortunate Elder. I want to know if a criss-cross pattern will upset it.
Elder!? Sure I've been treated as such before, but never addressed as such. I'm simultaneously blushing and feeling old.
Anyway, after an admittedly very short conversation with a pair of the denizens of Scholar's manor, I've narrowed the answers to four, in no particular order:
1. Siberakh Ronin;
2. Glass Walker Ronin;
3. Black Spiral Dancer with incomplete White Howler phenotype Ronin;
4. First case of Mockery Breed that can speak a human language.
His War-form had a generic, brindled light grey fur that I think doesn't resemble any Pure Breed and:
1. Siberakh rejected the Silver Fangs' project of making a Pure Breed and mated with Wentiko;
2. Glass Walkers are the most comfortable in an urban setting and do not have a Pure Breed;
3. A Black Spiral Dancer would be least uncomfortable among Wyrm-tainted things such as kindred, if we are to believe the stories the lupines tell us;
4. This Papa Wolf could have some sort of connection to whoever was - or should I say, is - unleashing Mockery Breeds and/or turning them into Abominations in New York - however he doesn't have the "blonde" guard hairs of a striped hyena, not in that form at least.
Homid form: painfully generic white guy, 30s, "I chase 16 year old girls" trimmed facial hair plus earring, brown hair, blue eyes, Norwood balding pattern scale 2, weighing about 185 pounds, height is "at least one head shorter than Revelation", she's 6'4''.

An ESS-4 truck was spotted near St. Patrick's Old Cathedral, ESS-1 should operate in Lower Manhattan.

>>97463917
You talk too much.

HOW DI

>>97463952
Nobody expects the Caitiff Inquisition! I'll be taking care of this anonymous neonate!

>>97463752
>pair of the denizens of Scholar's manor
Not Scholar's in the way of being his main home, but one he occasionally uses, you can use it as a safehouse of sorts for now. We've already cleaned it thoroughly though the dungeon is being remodeled for your activities, give it time. -Kakophoni

>>97464041
A proper dungeon, then. I think I know someone who would appreciate that.
Venus wants to know, geographically, where is this place. If House Venus is to work in here, they need a way to get the clients to it. It's fine if it's kept it under spoilers.

Pain...

>>97463752
>"I chase 16 year old girls" trimmed facial hair plus earring
16? I like them with some experience under their belt, at least half to one century, and served cold.

>>97464071
I'll be over in a bit to fix you up, don't worry -Kakophoni.
>>97464062
manor/restored castle in austria. Venus said she wanted a place away from america...

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>>>/Thread Question/
Can't answer. Too complex and there isn't a single kindred society to reform.
Or... Hell. Just end the turn-and-run practice of my clan. Give the fledglings a damn warning.

>>97463500
>>97463535
>Madness. But I suppose not an unreasonable strain.
Maybe. I suppose I'm lucky with Gran Gang walking out for smokes and leaving us to ourselves.
Fitting I guess for the clan.

>so I'll need you to pick a place for me to move them to
Just... There will be a hole in the ground by your yard near the tree-line to dump them into. If you wish to peer in, the land will not impede you. Come nightfall. I'm not so hermitish as I used to be, though my Malk is currently mute.

>Visit it before we make John disassemble it, as I doubt the spirits will appreciate reconciliation done with a corpse-warmachine made of their bodies serving as an offering.
>I'VE SPENT FIFTEEN MONTHS SEWING IT TOGETHER AND PATCHING UP ALL THE NERVE DAMAGE AND GETTING THE HIDE JUST RIGHT AND GETTING THAT FUCKING JEWELER TO MAKE THE SILVER TEETH WHAT DO YOU MEAN DISASSEMBLE
:(
I'll get to it come nightfall. Also I'd like to look at the notes you made it with because boy this is strikingly similar to something the Trem exiles in Marquette flogged Mr War Crimes over.

> I won't sew in any special rituals unless you want me to
It isn't necessary. All I need is the rip-off patch mined in case I need to pull out the battle-face and not destroy it. I appreciate your family's kindness regardless though. My thanks.

>I know a family gathering won't bring anybody back
You grow a community. But, you gotta start somewhere.

In case descriptions are to the use of anyone:

Revelation is a 6'4'' heavyweight bodybuilder, a dark-haired and dark-eyed woman with the kind of face and curves that would let her run a very successful OnlyFans, not just one for muscle enthusiasts. Or a cult, which she does indeed have. She should weigh about 220 pounds. She wears Victorian fashion in formal occasions with a leotard underneath, and will get rid of the old stuff when she's expecting action.

Risen Demon is a 5'8'' mid-20s albino girl, she looks like an unblemished angel until she opens her mouth, she has filed teeth, a forked tongue that makes you think bone- and fleshcrafting might be involved, and she can even unhinge her jaw. almost like a snake. She has the same ridiculous "fashion sense" Tremere and Baali tend to have.

Antisocial Butterfly is a 5'6'' late teen that would look like a Bollywood actress' daughter about to start her professional career, if it wasn't for the glasses and dressing like an European Union politician lady who is over twice her apparent age.
>>97464157
Venus jumps with joy and tells the rest of the house they're in Austria. They wouldn't even need Disciplines to cross the border.

>>97464363
>she can even unhinge her jaw
How do you know this?

>>97464368
From your unrestrained guffawing energy, my Saturday morning cartoon character.

>>97464363
>she can even unhinge her jaw
wish i still had something for that
flesh of the corpse is finally a curse to me

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>>97463565
>TQ
remove the tradition of destruction and ban on diablerie
the weak deserve to die and their blood should be rightfully claimed by the strong

>>97464815
>Hur dur MY Neonates won't gang up and eat MY ass

>>97464815
Ah. I was going to create a long winded explanation for the posed question, but this one did it for me! The solution to Kindred society, is simply less of us. Because most of you have such dirty laundry to air, or such ridiculous opinions as this I find I can often simply leave anonymous tips and be rid of the worst elements, but it always takes so much time and energy. Of course I have an eternity, and it keeps me quite busy and spry. So I really only complain about the fact that so few of you can be trusted to help. Caine’s laws were really quite simple, but the camarilla doesn’t believe he exists and the Sabbat really does quite the opposite.

Somebody tell me, or remind again in case I got hit too hard on the head, what are these Anarchs I keep hearing about. The Sabbat I had one encounter too many, the Camarilla is all Venus tried to teach me, but Anarchs are new to me. Anarch and the other word, Autarkis, I think.

@Scarlet >>97465838 Listen closely, this distinction is the difference between getting fined and getting dusted.

The Camarilla? They are your landlords. They own the building, they write the lease, and if you play loud music after 10PM, the Sheriff kicks your door down.

The Anarchs are the tenants who stopped paying. They squat in the lobby. They scream about "freedom" and "oppression", but they are still in the building. They want to burn the landlord, but they usually end up torching the furniture. They are loud, disorganized, and usually die young.

Useful if you need bodies for a riot; useless if you need a strategy.

Autarkis is not a club, childe. It is not a "team" you join. It is a status you earn by survival or by being too useful to be condemned to dust.

An Autarkis is the Kindred who bought their own house down the street and built a ten-foot wall around it. We do not answer to the Prince. We do not answer to the Baron. We do not pay taxes to the Tower or tithes to the Movement.

To be Anarch is to be a rebel. To be Autarkis is to be a sovereign state of one.

Choose your cage carefully.

>>97465987
That distinction makes you sound soft on the cammies sister.

>>97465838
Sects, there is a long history of us bickering over the social contract. Each is different. The Sabbat and Camarilla are closer than they like to expect maintaining a pyramid hierarchy. While the Autarks and the Anarchs take a more lateral approach with looser organization.
The rest of the path varies upon where you are. There are Camarilla tyranies, Anarch communes, Sabbat theocracies.

Better to get aware of your regional sects. And make friends in the sewers. We'll always be here for those who pay their debts.

>>97465838
Anarchs are a bunch of spoiled childer that are utterly incapable of being grateful
oh boohoo you have to follow rules but guess what? you had to follow those before your embrace too! why the hell do they think it would be any different just because they were kindred?

anyways you should kill anarchs on sight before they start organizing like those fellas in the Sabbat, remember ALWAYS escalate, ALWAYS kill, and NEVER show mercy

@Anonymous >>97466071 I do not "like" the Ivory Tower. I like that their checks clear and their borders are predictable. The Camarilla understands logistics. They understand that war is bad for business.

The Anarchs pay in ideology and "IOUs". You cannot buy 7.62mm rounds with freedom. I am not soft on the Camarilla; I simply like their money. If they Anarchs want my respect, they can start by paying their invoices on time.

@Anonymous >>97466076 You are a liability.

"Always escalate"? That is not a strategy. That is a suicide note.

That mindset is exactly why the skies are now full of drones and the three-letter agencies are monitoring our bank accounts. Every time you "escalate" without cause, you create a pattern. Patterns get tracked. Tracking leads to firebombs during the day.

Silence is survival. Violence is a tool, not a hobby. Learn the difference, or you may meet the sun very soon.

>>97465987
>We do not answer to the Baron.
The Anarch boss, right?
>We do not pay taxes to the Tower or tithes to the Movement.
Tower? Tithes? Movement? I still don't get what those are.
>>97466071
>Better to get aware of your regional sects.
It's complicated for me. I am told I'm in Austria but I don't know the first thing about the kindred there, or even our enormous hosts for that matter. All interactions with any other kindred I had in Bridgeport and NY were mediated by my sire.
I keep hearing I'm talented, but I'm still a very young vampire and ain't ever had time to build a reputation outside her shadow.
>>97466076
>anyways you should kill anarchs on sight before they start organizing like those fellas in the Sabbat, remember ALWAYS escalate, ALWAYS kill, and NEVER show mercy
If the NY Camarilla is too weak to eradicate their historic Anarchs in the Bronx, or whatever Revelation and her goons are cooking over there, how could I do anything about something like that?

>>97466155
>The Anarchs pay in ideology and "IOUs". You cannot buy 7.62mm rounds with freedom. I am not soft on the Camarilla; I simply like their money. If they Anarchs want my respect, they can start by paying their invoices on time.
>Money

There it is. What a surprise.

Anarchs are individuals Mater. Plenty are assholes but I've had reliable deliveries from some.
Same vein; more than a few cammies think they're due 'favours' just for gracing us with their presence and good will. Funny, think they have their cash cause they're good at stiffing some of their business partners.

>>97466174
That sucks sister. I'm a good old English lad and I can only wish you the best down there.
Just avoid people that look like they did things about fifty- er- seventy years back.

>>97466174
maybe if the Prince of New York wasn't a fucking pussy those anarchs would be dead
let's just say I ain't scared of getting my hands dirty and that's why there is no Anarch problem in my domain

yet another lick that would've thrived in the Sabbat but instead ended up being stuck in the Camarilla

@Scarlet >>97466174 Christ, your Sire has failed you. You are walking through a minefield blindfolded. Stop moving and listen.

The Tower: The Ivory Tower. The Camarilla. The strict, old-money sect that enforces the Traditions, the Masquerade. They are the "Government" for Kindred. If you are in a Camarilla city, the boss is the Prince.

The Movement: The Anarch Movement. The "Rebels." They claim to reject the Tower's hierarchy but they still have rules and leaders. If you are in an Anarch city, the boss is the Baron.

Tithes/Taxes: The cost of your existence. In a Camarilla city, you pay "Taxes" in the form of favours, cash or obedience for the privilege of not being hunted. In an Anarch city, you pay "Tithes" to the Baron for protection. Nothing is free, Childe. Not even unlife.

You do not know the players, and you do not know the board. Please find a mentor immediately. Do not speak to anyone important until you know who holds their leash.

Ignorance is not a defense; it is a death sentence.

@Anonymous >>97466195
>There is is. What a surprise.
Do not sneer at capital. Money buys the silence of the harbour master. Money buys the generator fuel that keeps the lights on in the haven. Money buys the lead that protects your life.

>Plenty are assholes but I've had reliable deliveries from some.
"Some." That is the keyword.

You confuse individual reliability with systemic accountability.

If a Camarilla Ventrue refuses to pay me, I speak to the local Harpy. His status drops. His credit is ruined. The system punishes him. I get paid because he fears the social cost more than the financial one.

If an Anarch refuses to pay me? There is no Harpy. There is no credit rating. My only recourse is to hunt him down and burn his haven. That is a waste of my ammunition and my time.

I do not trade on "good will." I trade on leverage. The Tower has more to lose; therefore, they are the safer bet.

>>97466174
Be very careful with the European kindred. >>97466195 has the right of it, there's a lot of old blood here.

>>97466224
Leash or Noose makes very little difference.

>>97465838
Why do you people make me have to be the fucking adult?

Those are words with... Very broad definitions. Anarchs are a relatively recent and wildly fragmented political movement. It rejects the hierarchy of the Camarilla, though, not all the principles and laws. A part of why it's difficult to discuss them is that's as far as the definition goes. Some believe in co-existance with the Camarilla (as long as they stay out of their terf) while others will actively rally against them. Autarkis are even more broad, as I'm technically an Autarkis. They're just people who don't engage with the systems of local society.

One can be an Autarkis Anarch, an Autarkis against Anarchs, or an Anarch who rejects being an Autarkis.

Bit of a mess right? That's politics.

Also keep yourself safe little niece, Europe has a lot of very entrenched freaks. Although, if you ever end up in Sardinia my cousins should be friendly enough. If old Mjoll is still doing well.

>>97466229
Unless the local harpy and the primogens feel they're entitled to things. Unless the credit doesn't move because the tower sets the credit. Unless they tithe the ever loving shit out of you because they've got themselves a fuckin monarchy and think they're Caine's gift to the kindred.

THIS shit is why we're going to be having Anarch movements forever. Because the system ought to punish those cunts if they're entrenched they get away with it. Maybe you're lucky. Maybe you live somewhere where the system "works." Tough, it ain't for the rest of us when the tower goes unmoved until it gets LONDON'd by the kine. Godlovem,

London had it fucking coming. Get bent slag.

>#Norferner-fer-lyfe

>SIRE, THE AUTURKIS ARE FLAMING EACH OTHER AGAIN

>>97466313
Good, then they're not hiding under my coffin at least.

@Anonymous >>97466306
>#Norferner-fer-lyfe
You are speaking a lot of boke for a man within driving distance.

You cheer for London? You are a fool. London didn't fall because of "justice." It fell because the Kindred there were loud, arrogant, and sloppy. And when the SI were finished burning out the south, where do you think they turned their eyes?

They are looking for the next spike in noise. And here you are, shouting.

I know what the Tower is. I know they tithe. I know they are tyrants. That is why I am Autarkis. I pay them for access, not for friendship.

But you? You sound like a man who wants to start a fire in a lifeboat because he doesn't like the captain.

If you bring the Black and Tans to my coast because you cannot keep your mouth shut, I will not wait for the Prince to sanction you. I will find you, and I will silence you.

Keep your "rebellion" quiet, or I will turn your hashtag into an epitaph.

>>97466428
Oh I've half a mind to let you hang by your own vanity.

London fell because the "Tower" thought it couldn't fall. That it destroyed the door and could last forever. Same reason the Black and Tans got themselves driven out of Dublin, it's hard to see the lads ready to car-bomb you when you've got your head in the clouds. I was around when it went down. Course, been dead long enough and ugly enough they didn't have themselves a file. Funny that.

You call yourself Autarkis but you bark like one of the Gangrel mutt who stayed behind.

And I'm not even a damn Anarch! I just see the Tower for what it is.

I don't need to kill you. One day, the hand that feeds you will stake you out an leave you to rot when the sheriff cleans house. Or your 'pay-master' oversteps his bounds.

>>97466428
>>97466502
Okay folks we get it, there are very different camps of Autarkis and you aren't helping. Cut it out.
I've seen enough of this to last me a lifetime just from the time I was in Seattle.

>>97466224
Oh can it, at least Colma has the gut to put a name to his face.

@K5Eh0c8lUI >>97466502
>I was around when it went down. Ugly enough they didn't have a file.
So you are a Sewer Rat who survived London by hiding in the drains while better Kindred burned. Do not mistake cowardice for tactical genius. You survived because you were beneath notice. I survive because I am too costly to remove.

>Same reason the Black and Tans got themselves driven out of Dublin
Do not lecture me on my own history, patine.

The Tans did not leave because they had their "heads in the clouds." They left because the occupation became too expensive in blood and coin. It was a calculation.

The Tower is the same. I do not trust them to be "nice." I trust them to be accountants. As long as I provide value, I am safe. When the math changes, I will be long gone. You hide in the dark hoping the Sheriff forgets you. I own the dark so the Sheriff has to negotiate with me.

We are not the same.

@H0T_G4R0U3S_1N_Y0R_3R34 >>97466523
Agreed. The signal-to-noise ratio in this thread has degraded. I have work to do.

>>97466523
Aye. Packages need delivering.

>>97466553
Yada yada
Stay outta york cammie.

>>97464363
Thank you for the description, Venus. -from Scholar
I don't like the look on Scholar's face -Kakophoni

what are each of their generations and clans/bloodlines if applicable

>>97466229
>Christ, your Sire has failed you.
Oh, please. She's not even a trimester old, I teach my childer to walk before teaching them to swim.

>>97466595
Revelation is a tenth generation "True Clanless" Caitiff, the kind that has no Clan Weakness, she knew six disciplines after the embrace in an unique combination and was embraced in the early 1800s. She never knew her sire. Currently she is as capable as a Brujah, Toreador and Ventrue Ancillas rolled into one, with the stealth of a Nosferatu plus the survivability of a Gangrel accomplished neonates.
I used to admire her until she went rogue.

Papa Wolf is a werewolf, definitely a Ronin who I believe was raised or found by kindred, for our current understanding of which kind he may be: >>97463752

Risen Demon is a kindred that for some reason can use the healing arts of a Salubri, while being an utterly despicable individual and not having a third eye (was it hidden, removed or shut down with Vicissitude?), she used psychological warfare tactics like a Baali would on my childe and called herself the "Caitiff Inquisition", all of this tells me she's a True Clanless as well.

Antisocial Butterfly, as stereotypical as that makes me sound is, most likely a Danava without a sire teaching her the way of the Brahmins, rather than another True Clanless.

I assume all kindred Revelation works with are of a newer generation.
I have to work, character sheets will have to wait

>>97467867
Noted, I would also like descriptions of their appearances and I do hope this werewolf is more durable than the others, they break too easily... -Scholar

>>97467911
Please find their physical descriptions in these messages:
>>97463752
>>97464363
Now that I have them off my back, I'll be more than happy to answer your questions to the best of my ability - and that of my contacts in the Big Apple who can take a closer look - if you have any, my most generous host.

>>97463752
>Don't believe her. Please...
I don't, Unfortunate Elder. I am just allowing her to be as mad as she seems. It will burn her whether she's genuine or not.
>Elder!? Sure I've been treated as such before, but never addressed as such. I'm simultaneously blushing and feeling old.
You are older than me, and rules of good conduct compel politeness in dealing with those who are your elders, when appropriate. From what I've read, the title does not perfectly fit you yet, but you are not far off, so it will do. Plus, I believe in nominative determinism, to a degree. May your new label help you live long enough to wear it.

The target parameters are interesting. It being so so far, and in a city as heavy on cameras as New York, complicates things, but I will keep it in mind if we find ourselves in need of offerings for powers above and around us, and nothing closer and easier will be available.

Thank you.

>>97464199
>I'm not so hermitish as I used to be, though my Malk is currently mute.
Fine. I will visit when I'll bring my share of the trophies. Your cat seemed a bit skittish around me last time, so I will try to be as inoffensive as possible given her state. Say if she'll be showing signs of unsettlement. I am not easy to offend.

>>97463565
>TQ
A part of me wishes to point out that in many natural systems, a routine cleansing and pruning is vital and makes the whole much healither, overall. It may help us.
But I personally think some form of true, honest integration into Kine society would be helpful. Hiding will stop working, eventually. Coming out of hiding our terms would be best. But that is a matter above my scope, so it's just idle theorizing. Change I can inflict upon the world is mostly limited, and exceedingly violent.

I think I shall change my “username” to something more quaint, actually being reminded of the Dracula conspiracy each time was a bit grating.

>>97466502
>>97466553
London is truly purged then? It is not really a topic of discussion here so news is poor at the best of time, most assume that it was merely a cover for the Council to stamp the boot down harder, but then most of the ones willing or seemingly knowledgeable tend to be of the Anarch persuasion. At least by word of mouth. You all seem far more chatty catty about these things, quite dangerous topics of discussion you know?

>>97464199
>I'll get to it come nightfall. Also I'd like to look at the notes you made it with because boy this is strikingly similar to something the Trem exiles in Marquette flogged Mr War Crimes over.
Ehhhhhhhhhh, it's not that bad. I think.

It's kind of intended to be a bit bad, admitteldy. We let Lavender handle the diplomatic matters, I personally don't ever want to be the one trying to talk to werewolves, but our collaborative project in the basement was meant as an insult to the them, sort-of. A project to make somebody actually important among them come out to play, so we could maybe talk to somebody actually in charge, instead of the rank-and-file dipshits they send our way.

And in case it didn't work the way we wanted it to, we'd just have a big thing to tie up assaulting wolves with. Getting it to be as intelligent as it needs to be at its size and armaments was our big hurdle, as of late, and with you around, I guess we really have no reason to keep the project going, beyond its potential combat use.

It's still sad though. :(

I'll patch up your skirt tonight, once I'm done being told to lift heavy things.

Appearances-and-vibes-wise: Ignis is a very quiet and extremely reserved, twenty-something woman. Very rigid. Part of it is the earlier-mentioned low Humanity, but a big aspect of it is that she's being like this on purpose, as a way to contain the urges and emotional swings her bound spirit's influence causes. If she gets going, she'd not stop easily. Goes for a fairly unassuming look, strict clothes, you'd mistake her for a Ventrue easily. Maybe in her early thirties? Hard to tell, she's as muted as can be. Suture is by comparison very lively, a handsome twunk type. Chatty, well-built, was absolutely a medical student in life given some of his neurotic tendencies. If Ignis's aura is absurdly vivid, repressed but strong, his is pretty foul. No diablerie, but unpleasant. She's a murderer, he's a vivisector.

>>97463207
>Well come down to the den and I'll let you in. Currently wearing a werewolf skull like a mask and has gone non-verbal. She had me bind her hands so she wouldn't scribble on the walls or compulsively dig.
On my way. I'll bring refreshments, and a few sort of occult-looking fidget toys. We've got some HSE's been gifted by her zoomer followers, maybe that'll give your cat a bit of enrichment that wouldn't potentially collapse your burrow.

>Also, let me know when everyone is here, most of the preparations are finished but there are some things I'll need to do right before.
Will do. The Nossies will probably, as is their custom, show up unannounced, so keep your hand off the proverbial trigger, don't put any holes in them. The older one's nice, and the younger one's, eh. Helpful and loyal, if comically rude. Our other siblings and servants are on the way, collecting ghouls and such. It'll take a bit.

>Maybe, but a place like this should be lively. You know?
I don't know. Maybe? From my Embrace to the massacres I've been shoulders-deep in studying my field. I didn't quite make it to the level of autonomy and recognition most of my siblings got, so for me, the times when this manor was livelier were the times I was reaping the consequences of selling myself into slavery for, eh. Private reasons.
Admittedly, living here when this place was in its prime really wasn't all bad, but still. I guess changing how I view my de-facto home wouldn't be so bad.

@Venus in Furs >>97467867
>Oh, please. She's not even a trimester old, I teach my childer to walk before teaching them to swim.
Then why did you throw her into the ocean?

You gave a neonate, one who does not even know what the "Tower" is, access to a global surveillance hub monitored by the Second Inquisition. You didn't teach her to walk. You gave a toddler a live grenade and told her it was a toy.

If she is only a trimester old, she is your responsibility. The Accounting is not a suggestion, Venus. It is a liability clause.

Every keyword she flags, every foolish question she asks that exposes her location, is a debt that will be charged to your ledger.

If she brings the hunters down on your domain because she was "learning to swim" on an open frequency, do not expect the Prince to accept "she's just a baby" as an excuse. They will stake the Childe, but they will burn the Sire.

Revoke her access. Educate her in private. Or be prepared to pay the bill when she inevitably breaks the Masquerade.

@Delphi >>97468141
>London is truly purged then?
Stop typing. Read. Then burn your drive.

The fact that you are debating this on an open frequency proves you do not understand the enemy. You think the "Tower" burned their own Crown Jewel for a psy-op? The Tower is arrogant, not suicidal.

London is a graveyard.

>quite dangerous topics of discussion you know?
The topic is not dangerous. Your ignorance is dangerous.

If you think this was a political game, you will underestimate the hunters. You will get sloppy. You will get tracked. And when the drone strikes your haven, it will not be the Prince pulling the trigger.

I am broadcasting this warning because further chatter would create a heat bloom. Stop looking for conspiracies in the Tower and start watching the sky.

Tarot readiiings, get your readiiings. I'll be busy farseeing the shit out of some convoluted, mystic matters pretty soon and that might tie me up a little, so if somebody wants their future spoken of by cards, ask a question or two.

>>97470630
>Or be prepared to pay the bill when she inevitably breaks the Masquerade.
You know there's currently a huge breach going on in New York, right? A live-streamed one, and of the sort that's probably going to have local Garou get involved, and they're always unsubtle, so things will get even worse.
Not that your chiding isn't mostly correct, but, still, with shit like that, little babycakes Scarlet isn't going to be noteworthy anytime soon.

>Stop looking for conspiracies in the Tower and start watching the sky.
Or invest into a seer who can tell you when there'll be drones in the sky! ;)

>>97468068
>>97468205
>>97468250
Well, I suppose that went as well as it could have. I'll admit this was more people than I've ever had in my den by three, so hopefully it wasn't too dingy for you. And I wouldn't worry too much about what Mèo-Mèo uttered. You know how it is with prophecies. Cower and they eat you, live as you would and they'll be exactly 'what they are.'

>Your cat seemed a bit skittish around me last time
It's less you, more her current mental state. Speaking in tongues that aren't hers much more than usual.
And she seems to like all of you, even if she can't exactly express it right now.

>I personally don't ever want to be the one trying to talk to werewolves
A sane disposition. One I lost after living so long in Loup territory.

>I'll patch up your skirt tonight, once
My thanks cousin.

>maybe that'll give your cat a bit of enrichment that wouldn't potentially collapse your burrow.
When she's back to herself and her hands are her own we'll see how that goes.

>It'll take a bit.
Take your time, I'll keep my eyes open.

>I guess changing how I view my de-facto home wouldn't be so bad.
We all have to deal with the nightmare of tomorrow cousin. We might as well make sure it's comfortable for us and ours. In hindsight, coming here has... Reminded me the cat's well-being and susceptibility to influences is one of my driving factors. Probably my main one as I am content with a hole in the ground.

>>97470630
>You gave a neonate, one who does not even know what the "Tower" is, access to a global surveillance hub monitored by the Second Inquisition. You didn't teach her to walk. You gave a toddler a live grenade and told her it was a toy.
Scarlet didn't immediately think of the Ivory Tower and thought Tower there meant something else.
>every foolish question she asks that exposes her location
>If she brings the hunters down on your domain because she was "learning to swim" on an open frequency, do not expect the Prince to accept "she's just a baby" as an excuse. They will stake the Childe, but they will burn the Sire.
You're painting an apocalyptic scenario, but I don't believe she could leak information she doesn't have.
After a brief conversation with Blue Fairy I finally understood the problem with Scarlet: Scarlet is from a generation born after the internet became mainstream, long ago it was an academic curiosity for military laboratories, but this is no longer the case.
She is used to ask the good folks she encounters in message boards and to look for tutorial videos for even the simplest of things, she's never held a printed encyclopedia and can barely use an "offline" dictionary.

It's time for her to stop getting her education out of a touchscreen, on this we can agree. The generation after her will be entirely dependant on AI, I fear.
>>97470834
>Tarot readiiings, get your readiiings. I'll be busy farseeing the shit out of some convoluted, mystic matters pretty soon and that might tie me up a little, so if somebody wants their future spoken of by cards, ask a question or two.
Will the Lasombra in New York survive the wrath of Revelation's growing army?

>>97471560
>Will the Lasombra in New York survive the wrath of Revelation's growing army?
No.

>>97470630
Oh, I have not slept in the same place twice since ‘82, and that was only because I was temporarily trapped in Turkey awaiting a flight out to be arranged. And the methods that got me there made a fantastic hidey hole when things get too interesting. Oh it was quite difficult to arrange that flight. Quite difficult, but enlightening that trip was! I would not worry about myself. Still, it is good to have some real affirmations of that side of the pond. Not that I really have any stake in that place anymore. I should check in with the local Hunters now that you mention it. I think they torched an Anarch bar a month ago, I did so warn them. Well, you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it see reason.

>>97471560
No please mother don't take my phone away please please please ple

>>97471633
yoink

Blue Fairy is the cutest, prettiest, hottest, smartest, wisest, most talented, best kindred to ever walk the Earth, I kiss the very ground she steps on, every night I'm grateful she exists.

>>97471796
Wow, Scarlet, you're so right.

>>97470630
>open frequency
>Schreknet2.0
Pick one. I know the SI got in once but the security and anonymity have been upgraded considerably since then. PLUS I think the first hack was an inside job, somebody's ghoul snitched, 100%.

>>97470834
Tarot me this: how do I make smarter szlachta?

@FearTheOldBlood >>97471927
>security and anonymity have been upgraded considerably
>somebody's ghoul snitched
You contradict yourself. If a ghoul can break the system, the system is not secure. Encryption is math. Betrayal is human nature. "Version 2.0" cannot patch a loose tongue. The SI has the budget of the G7; you have optimism. They own the cables your "secure" data travels on. You are arguing about the quality of the lock on the front door while the enemy owns the blueprints to the building.

>>97471988
>You contradict yourself. If a ghoul can break the system, the system is not secure.
Ghouls aren't allowed on schrecknet anymore, one of the aforementioned security upgrades, along with an onion router system like Tor browser uses. But what are we supposed to do? Not talk about kindred stuff on Schrecknet? What's the point of Schrecknet then? I'm new though, I got embraced after the SI became a thing, chalk it up to my youthful ignorance.

@FearTheOldBlood >>97472177
>What's the point of Schrecknet then?
Problem solving. Watch and learn.

URGENT REQUISITION // CONSULTATION: The local "Movement" is proving incapable of holding their borders. I have reports of Lupine encroachment on the eastern fringes. The Anarchs are losing ground, and more importantly, they are losing the ability to pay their invoices. I do not care about their ideology, but I cannot collect debts from a corpse scattered across a hectare of woodland.

@H0T_G4R0U3S_1N_Y0R_3R34 >>97470905
Your handle implies a specific expertise. My current stock of silver munitions is insufficient; pure silver is too soft for modern feed ramps, it causes jams in high-cycle platforms. I require a practical ballistic solution to put the "wildlife" down that does not rely on folklore. White Phosphorus? Depleted Uranium? Or do I simply need to sell them higher caliber platforms? I need stopping power, not myths.

@Via_Dolorosa >>97472974
Hmm.I suppose I have been given a free reading, what comes around goes around, yes?

To the West of the river rises a castle, a fortress, but it is death ground. None who enter it may leave save as conquerors of that place, and they come and raise foreign banners above it. The call, it is a mockery, behind the moon lies too many teeth, too many hands, too much rot. It is not a cleansing banner but one of grime and slick tar that chokes the very soul. To the north sits a sapling; young, aspiring, fresh, doomed. Yet, the fate is not yet ordained, the chances are good that the castle falls, but the coin spins, and twists, and turns, it does not yet land, there is still time to avert fate, and thus the castle's too.

I suffered that dream seventeen nights ago, four hundred and twenty one to be more precise. It was quite vivid, that said I believe silver shall still come in handy, just that should this be more than coincidence there is more to your situation at hand than mere bullets can solve. If you are willing to make a trade, however, I may have a relic on hand to also tip the balance some. It has not come in much usage lately, a relic I received from the far east. But I think this method too insecure for such dealings. I shall contact you through alternative means if you will it.

@Delphi >>97473127
>the coin spins, and twists, and turns
I asked for ballistics, and you gave me a horoscope. However, "Rot" and "Tar" aligns with the degradation I have observed in the perimeter. If the "Castle" is the target, then the timeline is shorter than anticipated. If you are willing to make a trade I do not trade in riddles, but I always trade in hardware. If this relic has kinetic value—if it can stop a heart or sever a limb—then I am interested. If it is merely a trinket for luck, keep it.

If this is agreeable, I will entrust you to open alternative channels.

>>97473249
Might jacketed hollow-points avoid the feed problems if you use a harder metal for the jacket?

@FearTheOldBlood >>97473337
>Might jacketed hollow-points avoid the feed problems if you use a harder metal for the jacket?
You are correct. A copper-alloy jacket would solve the feed issues, protecting the softer silver core until impact. It would require custom swaging dies to replace the lead cores with silver bullion, but the physics are sound. You stopped asking "why" and started asking "how." That is the first sign that you might actually survive the decade, Childe.

I will need to sacrifice some dies for the prototype, but I am pulling the lead cores from a crate of surplus ball ammunition tonight to run the numbers on a jacketed prototype. With the lighter weight of silver cores, it will be interesting to see if mushrooming is possible when accounting for matted fur, or if we rely purely on hydrostatic shock. If it cycles reliably in a standard receiver, I will credit you for the schematic. Keep thinking like an engineer. The Movement has enough philosophers; it needs more problem solvers.

>>97473517
No problem, fewer werewolves out there the better.

>>97472974
Sister that's the kind of mentality that my 'expertise' tells me is flawed from the outset.
Better folk than you and I got it into their heads that sufficiently heavy weapons were enough to strike out and win. Never works in the long run unless you're devouring the bush. And honestly? I feel more for those Loup neighbours than some of our shared Blood. So you'll forgive me for only passing along what is known by the opaque freaks out in Milwaukee. They've maintained a hostile disposition to the Loups longer than most, and even if I'm never going back their system still works.

Fancy weapons and munitions won't get you far, bring out too much firepower and they'll simply pull out and wait for weakness. Go even further and you invite the kind of things that make you vanish. Repeating shotguns at break range are probably your best bet with some extra large cartridge size. Custom shell make-up where the mixes are more debilitating than lethal and constantly make space. Supplemented with a collection of grenades, mines, and traps. The 'Porcupine' method. Despite plenty of searching it's the most reliable if you insist on entering Loup spaces.

There was a thing back in... The 90s I think. A bunch of the 'Anubi' (Soldiers of the Tyrans) plotted on going into Loup country on a punitive expedition. They were kitted out with all the automatics you could ask for. Including White Phos and Trem trinkets. But they ended up bringing on a local legend from north Canada. "Ol Lopez." Said he'd come over with the conquistadors and survived almost 4 centuries with a blunderbus, all he had was a double barrel shotgun and experience. Six up and coming groomed Loup hunters went out beside that old Gang. Only Lopez came back.

Now, personally? Not engaging will always be the better option. Obfuscate. Distract. Detente.
Whatever conflict that insists you drag yourself into their lands as an invader is almost never worth it.

>>97473337
Hollow points against some Wentiko might as well be shooting a spray bottle at a tin wall.
More pressing for you Fear than the Road-Woman I suppose. Honestly I have half a mind to pass along the Path just because I know the sort of things dwelling where you live. Guns will jam and bombs will be agonizingly ineffective. But, the land will never fail you if you treat it right.

H0T_G4R0U3S_1N_Y0R_3R34 >>97473773
>The 'Porcupine' method.
You speak in doctrine I understand: Area Denial.
I am looking at a bench full of 7.62mm casings. My intent was to provide the Anarchs with the means to hunt. You are suggesting that the "hunt" is the error.
You are correct. Attempting to out-maneuver the locals in their own terrain is a vanity project. The Anarchs are loud and disorganized; they are not hunters, they are targets. They do not need to advance; they need to make the ground they squat on too painful to cross.

>Only Lopez came back.
This "Lopez" understands the truth: Reliability beats complexity. The "Anubi" you speak of died because they trusted their toys more than their instincts. I have seen the same with the SAS and the boys who thought new rifles would make them immortal.
I am scrapping the silver-core 7.62mm project. It is too precise for a panic. I have crates of 12-gauge hulls. If "debilitating" is the goal, I will look for my recipe for gelled-fuel incendiaries. Magnesium burns hot, but sticky fuel causes panic. I'll see if I can repurpose the silver I was saving for the hollow point cores into ball bearings for some "anti-wildlife" tripmines.
If they cannot kill the wolf, they can at least make it regret biting the fence. Your expertise is accepted.

@H0T_G4R0U3S_1N_Y0R_3R34 >>97473940
>Road-Woman
I have been called worse by better men.

>Guns will jam... the land will never fail you if you treat it right.
That is the poetry of someone who has never had to sleep in an Armagh ditch in November. The land is wet, cold, and indifferent. It eats the dead and freezes the living. It does not care if you "treat it right." A firearm is a contract: you maintain it, and it functions. It has no mood. It is springs, levers, and oil. If your gun jams, it is not fate. It is negligence.

@FearTheOldBlood >>97473337
Do not let the change in tactics discourage you. The silver-core concept was sound engineering, but the application was wrong for this specific theater. We are not discarding the science; we are adjusting the delivery system. We move from "penetration" to "saturation". Do not start worshiping pine cones just yet.

I'm disconnecting for tonight, I'll be busy with this new project but thank you both for your contributions. If this works out, I'll get some bags of vintage negative and leave them at a dead drop for celebratory purposes.

>>97473975
>>97474060
>they can at least make it regret biting the fence.
Most of us could stand to learn a thing or two from the principle.

>I have been called worse by better men.
I mean you no offence there sister. It's literally a reading of your name, although, I suppose the better translation is, 'Path of the Sorrowful Mother.' Hence the abbreviation.

>That is the poetry of someone who has never had to sleep in an Armagh ditch in November.
Ha! That would be a bit wet, but nothing too bad for me. I've accidentally dug my way down into ponds more than a few times, and when I've been upstart I've had clay pockets humble me. But for decades I've lived out in the wilds.

>The land is wet, cold, and indifferent. It eats the dead and freezes the living. It does not care if you "treat it right."
Most of that is natural, aside the end. Speak with the right words and do not dominate it, and she will. Much as your present foes hate it, they're not the only who can enjoy the favour of the hills and fenns.

is it just me or does nothing ever happen now? when did this start? are the antediluvians behind this?

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FUCK I just remembered that I did some shit with ol' 'Stein and if that shit is in the files we are so fucking screwed it would be a global masquerade breach
how do I stop them from releasing this stuff???

>>97471927
>Tarot me this: how do I make smarter szlachta?
That's cheating. But fine, let me ask the cards. Three draws, because it is a complex question, but not absurdly so.
>Is it right to focus on smarter servants, currently?
Nine of Swords - Reverse. Conflicting card, often. Typically? Release; relief; easing of obstacles.
>What area is lacking in the current methods?
Nine of Pentacles - Reverse. Dependence; insecurity; living beyond one's means.
>Will OldBlood succeed if he corrects for his current lackings, or will something else obstruct the process?
World - Upright. Completion; wholeness; fulfillment.
One interpretation is that you should keep pursuing smarter sllhzljllzlhjlzlhjzhachta, but without obsession; the issue of lacking intelligence is that of insufficient investment, literal investment most probable, and if you do fix that, it seems like you'll actually achieve success with your objective. Or you will, instead, need to focus on fixing something about the WHOLE of your slzhlhzachta.

>>97471560
>Will the Lasombra in New York survive the wrath of Revelation's growing army?
World - Upright. Completion; wholeness; fulfillment.
I've shuffled the deck seven times, bee tee dubs, so how the fuck the World again got pulled is a mystery. Let me try again, shuffle pull another card; don't want to be rude to Revvy, eh?
>Will the Lasombra in New York survive the wrath of Revelation's growing army?
World - Upright. Completion; wholeness; fulfillment.
Twice in a row is a bit comedic, and maybe a sign my deck is getting uppity. I'll shuffle again and see what the new one says. No setting the card aside - that would be cheating; one can't make Fate withdraw unpleasant outcomes.
Ten of Wards - Upright. Weight of duty; obligations; exhaustion yet closeness to completion.
Victory will come, just as twin Worlds say, but at cost and with difficulty.
I use a physical deck for those, btw, and do shuffle it. How the fuck it drew like this is beyond me.

HELLO STOP

HAPPY TO BE ON THE WEB AS THE SAYING GOES STOP

UNSURE OF THE ETIQUETTE TO THESE THINGS STOP NEVER BEEN A FAN OF COMPUTERS FRANKLY THE SEMAPHORE WAS ALREADY FINE AND TELEGRAPH WAS ALREADY A BIT MUCH AND ITS EVENTUAL CHILD IS SOMEWHAT EVIL AND CLICKY BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO STOP

I AM OF THE UNSEEN CLAN STOP HAVE BEEN TIED UP WITH BUSINESS AND TRAINING A YOUNGSTER ON REQUEST OF A TREMERE STUDENT AND FRIEND STOP

ASSISTANT SUGGESTED I GO ON HERE FOR SOCIALIZATION AND SUCH STOP ADVISED TELEGRAPH WRITING STYLE STOP FEELING LIKE I GOT DUPED A LITTLE STOP

OPEN TO QUERIES AND SUCH STOP WOULD APPRECIATE RECENT TIDINGS AS ME AND MY ASSISTANT PREFER TO KEEP OUR HEADS LOW STOP

Revelation, armed with naught but a big smile was seen marching from Elysium towards Old St. Patrick's Cathedral and then back to Elysium accompanied by a growing number of hopeful pilgrims!
Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

Is the world ready for the biggest practical joke in kindred history since the Malkavians' Great Prank?
Hold me, Papa Wolf, I'm shaking with excitement.
>>97477644
I like this herald guy, I think we should keep him.

>>97477658
Why contain it?

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Three bats come crawling back in the underbrush

Five neonates prepare plots from afar

Seven wolves bicker over ancestors real and inherited

I AM NOT PLEASED

Shoosh, all that time and you got nowhere

Sorry. Need to stop stealing your laptop.

>>97476492
Welcome to the new age.

Though no one demanded for this solution, I chose the lesser evil. Let historiographers judge me in the future, I live in the present, and I am writing history.

BREAKING NEWS
CLAN LASOMBRA IN NEW YORK BENDS THE KNEE TO THE PRINCE AND THE CAMARILLA

>>97477730
The traitors switched sides? Who could have seen this one coming.

>>97477730
...

The Lasombra live, their debt is restructured.

>>97477730
>yeah bro you can trust us we are absolutely not just going to kill you and take over immediately once we are inside

>>97477730
THIS IS FUCKING PATHETIC
JESUS JUST LET THE ASSAMITES WIPE OUT THIS CLOWN CLAN HOLY SHIT

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>>97466595
>>97467911
Here's Papa Wolf's character sheet. His Gifts are all level 1 and are the results of spirit manipulators bullying spirits to teach him, or loner, resentful spirits teaching him things, or even the occasional werewolf who hired him to do dirty work for them, so they don't break fraternal bonds or whatever.

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>>97466595
>>97467911
Risen Demon's character sheet doesn't mention anywhere she has the most punchable face in the universe. I came up with the Cold Hatred specialty on the fly.

I'll finish Antisocial Butterfly's sheet tomorrow. The bad guys have have stats, they can be killed.

>>97463565
>What's the first thing you would change to improve Kindred society?
every kindred gets a emotinal support pets and with mandatory wellness checks on the pet monthly and annual pet meetups. Fewer insane kindred. Also kine are not pets. Also my gf gave me a look when I said 'kine' in front of her? is it a slur or something I copied my sire. Or is he saying it weird and I don't know?

i say it like kind without the d

>>97478684
>every kindred gets a emotinal support pets
I don't want to learn Animalism!
>>97478666
>666
Satan trips on Risen Demon's character sheet, you can't make this shit up. Also, I forgot her Academics' speciality, it's Philology.

>>97478666
>>97478715
I even forgot a dot of Willpower, it's 8. My brain is getting as old as all these vampires.

>>97475606
>One interpretation is that you should keep pursuing smarter sllhzljllzlhjlzlhjzhachta, but without obsession; the issue of lacking intelligence is that of insufficient investment, literal investment most probable, and if you do fix that, it seems like you'll actually achieve success with your objective. Or you will, instead, need to focus on fixing something about the WHOLE of your slzhlhzachta.
I wonder if maybe I should focus on practicing my animalism then and simply starting with smarter brains (cats, dogs) than to try and build smarter brains out of less intelligent creatures (crickets). Summon cats, fleshcraft cats into Pokémon. Thank you very much!
I wish I could take a picture of the football crickets I made, they look adorably derpy. Major masquerade breach if the photos were circulated though. Oh well.
Also: schlatkalaka.

>>97477730
Again?

>>97478684
Kine does mean cattle, kindred.

>>97479286
oh I should apologize

Hell.

Problem, Cat is missing and struck out. Left me a note.
>'Stole his Voice'
Don't know what it means. Get HalfSeeing to check.

You have company but they aren't pressing, currently watching. I'm heading out after Mèo.

>>97470834
>>97468068
>>97468205
>>97468250
Keep yourselves safe, don't provoke anything. I'll post updates as needed now that I know where the reception is. Find out what happened.
If you need to get into the burrow utter the phrase 'Mo Chridhe' at the place where the entrance was, and the earth will open for you.

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>>97479127
Did you see it coming?
>>97478666
>>97478715
>>97478788
Ok last version of the sheet and last time I post it, making this character was excruciating, which fits her

Venus and my sisters are almost done setting up the dungeon, they are happy with the acoustics, and say the right amount of echo's gonna make the crack of their whips more intimidating and their voice more commanding. I wanna play - or at least see it, I can walk now but I ain't ready to go downstairs yet, damn this fucking knee.
These injuries were another humbling experience, back when I was a blood doll I was completely wrong about vampires.
I need a cigarette, and affection, the physical kind.
>>97466595
Is it just me or the passage of time here in Scholar's place feels sorta kinda... off?
And can I ask you to pick Princess Charming up? She finished her business with the European Ventrue and is ready to return to House Venus.

Ah, I have been informed of the proper protocol for these things! Marvelous, to not have to pay extra for proper grammar and such. This machine is still clearly somewhat satanic in nature, I do not trust a stone to think for me, and a glass pane to depict truthful imagery, but I will make peace with things for now. One has to commune somehow, and work accomodates nobody's idiosyncrasies.

>>97477687
Thank you, seer. Stay safe.

>>97479779
Me and my assistant have answered the hail sent our way, and are not far from the caern, friend! We'll try and follow along with you, and will stay unseen. No Garou ever managed to spot us in our one hundred and twenty years of collaborative work, so we shouldn't interfere overmuch with your own work and tracking, but still will be able to help you if your search for your cat brings you trouble. If all goes well, you'll see us for the first time once you bring your girl back to the manor in sound health.

A formal letter of challenge by a fellow wolf? Took you long enough, Central Park.
And where did all these middle aged blood dolls come from? The 90s?

I'M SWIMMING IN BLOOD
WOOOOOOOOO

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Time to pay the eastern branch of Pentex a visit. After me and Papa Wolf are done with our tasks, we can focus everything we have on defending against the incoming onslaught by the hunters.
>>97466595
>>97467911
And here's the last character sheet!
In summary:
Revelation: >>97460529
Papa Wolf: >>97478621
Risen Demon: >>97480472
Antisocial Butterfly: pic related.
They have stats, they can be killed.

>>97480493
>Is it just me or the passage of time here in Scholar's place feels sorta kinda... off?
never could figure out why that feeling manifests in guests, my guess is because it's lack of sunlight. -Scholar

>And can I ask you to pick Princess Charming up? She finished her business with the European Ventrue and is ready to return to House Venus.
I shall send Kakophoni, He'll be staying at the safe house with you to attend to any issues that appear so if you need something then ask him. -Scholar

>>97483068
Thank you again for your generosity..

Mercury Lamp and the dolls had the easiest time adapting to the new situation, the idea of a whole enchanted castle to play in sent them to Cloud 9.
>>97483068
>lack of sunlight
Makes a lot of sense.

Two wolves duel under New York's full moon!
Warder Spotlight challenges Ronin Papa Wolf and is beaten to within an inch of his life, then mercifully returned to the Sept of the Green in Central Park!
Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

>>97483149
What? Since when do we show mercy to the enemy?

>>97483155
As much as the vampires' ways always made more sense to me, do you want me to send him back to his ancestors with the honor of a glorious death in battle?

>>97483155
Soon enough our little community will have no enemies left.

Ay güey. Nicktuku suck. In every meaning of that word that isn’t fun. Camelot looking guy that kept showing up and asking about “monsters” was one. Tough ass too. Tough enough he brought a squad with him. I’m good for a 3 on 1, but 6 is a bit much. Jimothy is dead. Our nagaraja help was taken out first. I’m currently regrowing a stump of an arm and most of a foot. Sometimes, a low generation is worse that it sounds. The farms gone. The bar up in unnatural flames. I’ve attracted far too much attention from the camarilla and the federales to stay in this area. Damn. Welp, time to hit the ole trail. Probably eat a dozen hobos in Dallas tonight then fly down to Galveston. The ocean’s lovely. Beach is fun. Sailors have accidents all the time.

Enough about my absence though. How’ve yall been?

>TQ
I guess an overall code for civility. I know with immortaity the only thing we have to fear is death, and the masquerade paper faces on parade! Hide your face so the world will never find you! keeps us all alive, but aside from mine own clans hospitality laws and the ventrue’s occasional good hosting, its overall lacking. I know we’re all beasts, but even amongst beasts, there is a passive code of restraint and a loose peace at the watering hole.

>>97483239
>Enough about my absence though. How’ve yall been?
Horrible.
What was supposed to be a cosy winter vacation in Bridgeport became a series of nightmares, my then third-youngest childe committed Diablerie on an abomination and died horrendously, and we had to live America a month early, because my old flame Revelation decided to punch a massive hole in the Masquerade, and is probably trying to make a Carthage out of North Bronx, effectively putting the whole US East Coast in danger.
With a mixture of incredulity and terror, I am following the events unfold from a distance, the Camarilla of New York can't do a single thing to stop Revelation and her fellow monsters' nonsensical, suicidal machinations, and we're starting over as the guests of Scholar and Kakophoni.
Still, there were a select few pleasant memories during this vacation, my proudest is Scarlet, this prodigy I have just embraced who finished the first stage of her training, again with the help of our hosts. I never had a childe so eager to become a vampire and learn Disciplines, I only wish she could study a bit harder, relying less on the internet.

Wow. This is one bad ass dungeon. Gimme a client and let's get medieval.

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[Montane Layover, Update 3] Lonely Edition

>After a good day of setting up for a reconciliation ceremony with the Loup shadows as the first step in dealing with the Trem's issues (still too many bones), woke up to the Cat vanishing.
>Spent hours searching very much not alone up on the mountain. Whole array. Loups in full beast-skin, shadows, Nos who I'll admit are very good at hiding their presence outside the occasional double echo.
>Finally caught my Cat's scent around midnight and followed it to a cave with a dozen Loups inside. Whole array of tribes, plurality were Utka and Wenti. All arrayed around Mèo-Mèo. Who was losing her fucking mind. Still only wearing the fucking Hispo-state skull untill I gave her my jacket.
>More voices than I could count, not just the shadows of fallen forbears, but other things. Couldn't explain what, only that they were having the mother of all screaming matches through the Cat as a conduit.
>Mercifully, it seems the kid I dealt with the other day had protected her until her value was realized.
>God boy, we'll call him 'Bee' for the sake of anonymity.
>Can't share much of what was said, only that those called here are very divided on what to do next and Mèo isn't doing well. Nobody is happy.
>At one point she spat lightning and tried to snap her own neck. had to tackle her.
>One of the Black Hides who'd seemingly really thought his solo trek to the manor would be the one that was successful called bullshit on my heritage and challenged me to the Klaivaskar. A duel with the short blades.
>This one we'll call 'Georgie' immediately broke decorum when I accepted. Had to pull out my Wildness to win, been a long time since I used it freely, but, still got it. Put the big man to sleep.
>Suppose that proved me to them, although they're still in debate and 90% of the debators are still within the Cat. Couldn't bring her home. Bee is taking care of her though.

>>97484020
>Withdrew after to make the trip back. They're still in a stalemate between the internal factions, but things seem to have stabilized and we're not going to have the spectators and the Drawn making a last hurrah on the Trems. Still too many unknowns.
>Ended up staring at a bunch of people doing late night skiing for way too long.
>Felt like shit when I realized what I was doing. >Only managed to get a quick bite off some deer.
>Heading back to the Trem manor. Will see if they have any bagged blood supplies, otherwise, will probably need to go hunt a fucking bear or something. Peh.
Progress. Fuck me to death I wish I didn't have faith in that girl.

>>97480657
You're good I'll give you two that. Most of your urban cousins don't hold a candle to you, though, I'm pretty sure I caught a few back smells and reflective echoes.

>>97483239
>Enough about my absence though. How’ve yall been?
Been an absolute shitfest. Most people reporting on the soft war ongoing on the Atlantic. Out nowhere and currently regulating a convoluted feud where the fallen weigh heavy on those who remain.

Mountains are beautiful though.

>>97483172
You... What are you even doing out there?

>>97483239
Welcome back Chelys, House Scholar met new allies, they moved into a spare manor of ours, and a caitiff with a cult is doing a revolution. How is the vitae infused alcohol brewing? It's been a while since I shared the process.... -Kakophoni

Also Chelys if you need a place to stay, House Scholar will happily give a room to our friend. -Kakophoni

>>97484020
>Had to pull out my Wildness to win, been a long time since I used it freely, but, still got it. Put the big man to sleep.
Exceptional work! My assistant may scoff about it once you meet her face-to-face, but she's actually very impressed, too. Didn't quite wince when you essentially folded the guy, she's seen worse, but there was a little spark of appreciation for brutality against lupines in her eyes. Good stuff.

>You're good I'll give you two that. Most of your urban cousins don't hold a candle to you, though, I'm pretty sure I caught a few back smells and reflective echoes.
My personal best, one I feel comfortable disclosing, at least, was successfully concealing a moving locomotive and two train carts, back in Alaska. Not one soul, whether Kine, Kindred or Lupine saw it or heard it move past them, until it was too far and too fast to be caught. This was easy, in comparison, even if the locals got sharp senses.

Me and my assistant are willing to try and keep an eye on your girl, by the way! Barring moments where I'll need to talk to the Tremere youngsters, see exactly what will be needed of us besides attendance of the calming ritual.

>>97483239
Good on you for surviving a visit from one of those! However unbelievable the survival may be, given their usual destructive tendencies. Any luck with actually slaying the thing?
>there is a passive code of restraint and a loose peace at the watering hole.
A human-created myth, that! Mostly, anyways. I've had enough wilderness experiences, ones even during daytime, keeping watch from a den, to observe a general lack of such truces. Lions readily hide by watering holes to feast on whoever comes near them, for instance. Animals are just as brutish and sadistic as humans in all our various shapes, whether Kine or Kindred or whatever else. They're just less inventive.

>>97484026
Good to hear your cat is... Not quite 'fine', I suppose, but not nearly as bad as she could've been.
Status update, we've got HSE's 'coven' of scammers and hand-readers at the manor, mostly, most of our ghouls who were previously out and about doing things for us, and Rapture's boyfriend, who is a ghoul and probably accounts for about half of Rapture's medical capability. Nossies are here, they don't keep ghouls. The three other siblings are a day away, had to take a detour to pick up one of HSE's students from the county jail. Once they and a few straggler ghouls get here too, we'll have a full house and will be ready for the ceremony.

Far as our trophies go, everything's about piled up, except my and Rapture's project. It's going to be a bit of a bitch to split it up and drag the pieces out of the basement. Somewhat tempted to bring it to life exclusively so it could worm its way out, waddle-crawl to the ritual site and collapse there.

Might get my usual artist to draw it. Broadly, it's a zombie made of Garou parts, with silver weapons, rituals, surprise explosives and other such things built into it. Not complete, and isn't really a superweapon so much as a provocation to draw out important Garou with. I'm leaning towards it looking less like Frankenstein's werewolf and more like a Hell Pit abomination, in broad strokes. Covered in Weaver charms, wards and symbols as precautions Rapture was taught by the Trem Sire, to avoid Wyrm spirits possessing it or otherwise fucking with it.

>Get HalfSeeing to check.
HSE's saying the cards are refusing to provide an easy answer, by the way. She'll scry for it again once they're less bitchy.

>Will see if they have any bagged blood supplies
Plenty! Mostly human, some animals, some Garou, but it would count as trophies so we're tossing it on the pile, and a bit of more exotic stuff. Plus there's ghouls, just don't drink any of them dry, we need them upright and capable of running.

>>97484148
>You... What are you even doing out there?
A wolf turns into a boy, but he's found by a vampire first, one with a big brain who employs him as a daylight guardian.
Later on the werewolves he meets mostly try to kill him with no reason given, and when they don't, they tell him about myths involving two or more gods out of three going mad, genociding their fellow shapeshifters, a losing war to stop the apocalypse, centuries of preventable bloodshed across generations of dumbass ancestors.
Imagine if Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses or Scientologists came to the door of a human, except they're not knocking, they're not asking, they're armed to the teeth, and the human read about their actual beliefs.
A few smarter wolves would hire me to solve their problems with their brethren, so they don't get their paws dirty.
For all their faults, your average vampire treats me better than "my own people", and Revelation's see me as a celebrity, instead of the Antichrist.

>>97478919
Bit late on this, but if you touch a single cat I will be scrying for when you get staked and eaten by your chocolachta! And I'll only stop when the cards obey my whim and tell me that you will be eaten indeed.
Fleshcraft dogs instead. Or monkeys. Monkeys would be best, I really don't give a shit about them.

>Major masquerade breach if the photos were circulated though
Eh, people post photos and shit all the time, and half the time it's just fakes posted here to mislead people. That Ventrue dipshit a little while ago shared pics of a Tzimisce elder and her meat unicorn. Nobody will mind a cricket. But fiiiiiiiine, I guess we'll be cricketless. What a sorry state of existence.

>>97485997
Aw, you poor pupper. So the big bad wolf fucking things up on the East Coast is just an orphan denied his true family's love and affection? That's tragic, babes. Maybe once we're done reconciling, healing, listening and learning here in the Rockies, I could scry for how you could redeem yourself, reconnect with your kin? Bet you want it, deep inside.

>>97486329
>if you touch a single cat I will be scrying for when you get staked and eaten by your chocolachta!
I'm not planning to abuse the animals, just make them look more like the Pokémon known as "Skitty". Bigger heads, fluffier tails. I love cats, and without the brain surgery I was attempting on the mice there's a 0% chance they'll die, I'm quite adept at sculpting both flesh and bone.
>Fleshcraft dogs instead.
That I can do, I love dogs.
>Or monkeys. Monkeys would be best, I really don't give a shit about them.
There aren't many wild monkeys in southern Manitoba for me to call. Unless people count, but I've got a mind to try and retain what humanity I have left.
>Nobody will mind a cricket. But fiiiiiiiine, I guess we'll be cricketless. What a sorry state of existence.
I'll see what I can do but no promises, I have to clear this with my sire first. I don't want the both of us ending up as ash.

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>>97486329
Good news, they said it's fine.
I hope AI-generated images are okay. I drew some pencil sketches but it makes more sense to use AI to make something photorealistic as if it was snapped with a cellphone camera.

>>97485441
>Didn't quite wince when you essentially folded the guy, she's seen worse, but there was a little spark of appreciation for brutality against lupines in her eyes. Good stuff.
Klaives are a decent weapon even if you don't have the bulk for it. A pommel to the brow will topple almost anything.

> Me and my assistant are willing to try and keep an eye on your girl, by the way!
I'd appreciate that.

>>97485522
Good news I suppose. As good as can be anyways. When the time comes I should be able to light the flame and simply begin the rite.

Also just... I'll help you drag that thing out to the pyre when the time comes. I don't want any animation in that thing.

>Cards are being bitchy
Reliable seership isn't kind to those with the 'gift' I suppose.

>some animal
That will suffice. Live usually off of large animals, don't want to develop bad habits.

>>97485997
I don't need to imagine. I kind of witnessed a sectarian episode up in Cree country a while back. When the Metis ran the Mormons out of town.

In fact, I sympathize with most of that.

>>97483239
>Jimothy is dead. Our nagaraja help was taken out first. I’m currently regrowing a stump of an arm and most of a foot.
And the Squad?

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>Sire told me she will be visiting me soon

>>97486329
>Aw, you poor pupper. So the big bad wolf fucking things up on the East Coast is just an orphan denied his true family's love and affection? That's tragic, babes. Maybe once we're done reconciling, healing, listening and learning here in the Rockies, I could scry for how you could redeem yourself, reconnect with your kin? Bet you want it, deep inside.
I want nothing to do with a goddess that tells wolves they ought to kill orphans like me, or die trying, as if this would stop the apocalypse. I will always prefer a vampire's sarcasm, hatred and fear to a werewolf's attempted murder-suicide. My true family is right here, this is where I belong.
>>97487072
>I sympathize with most of that.
I see even Shrecknet gives me less shit than my own kind.

>>97484164
>a caitiff with a cult is doing a revolution
Just a little social experiment.
>>97488562
I wish to find others like you, have them join our growing community, and let them to live in peace.

>>97483332
A new generation to start a new life. Poetic almost. Shame about the loss. Why the diablierie of an abomination though? I did consume my sire. Consensually though, mind you. It was an emergency. Why did the east coast go up in flames though?
>>97484148
Again with the east coast. Glad I aint there. I assume you mean the Appalachians? Lots of old spirits there, I’ve read. Would like to know them and bind them to my will potentially. >>97484164
Currently a delightfully smelling pile of ashes and mash. I’ll have to restart elsewhere. Appreciate the offer but unless you want someone looking like a cross between Doug Dimmadome and Boss Hogg running about the place, I likely won’t come by.

>>97485441
>>97487163
Well. I killed two outright. Suits of armor and lightning really don’t mix well. I guess the original guy heard that my generation was low enough to be on a hand with polydactyly. He didn’t know I’m a well trained koldun. So there went two of them once they announced themselves. Jimothy took another out with an AK-50 I just bought from a man in San Antonio. The other three were unarmored but damnably fast. Tough as fuck too when aware of their threats. I guess the two armored ones were in charge as the last three just fought us in a melee. Sadly, as ghouled and spirited from experimentation as Jimothy was, he was taken out quickly. Never had I felt a loss like that. I swear I heard my own vitae call to me from his corpse. His nagaraja lover took this personally afterwards and shifted to her snake form. She wounded the one that killed Jimothy but The one I wasn’t directly wrestling a stake away from managed to take her out via decapitation. Now quickly outnumbered, I’m pulling the nuclear option and lighting the whole damn place ablaze. I call upon all the spirits in my land and induce a frenzy in them. I think one of the fuckers got possessed as he just fell screaming. I was never as good with the earth koldun as I was with others, but I thought I’d try to make some lava as my tutor often did. It’s a bit hard to do gestures fighting three on one though. I’ve started a structure fire at this point. I hear the spirit of my horse screaming. I am sorry. One gets my arm with a fucking bastard sword. Another wrenches my foot off. I’m trying to call down more lightning but I’m low on vitae now and there’s no one around to eat.

>>97490060
I manage to pull myself into the earth and hide in the removed cellar I made just in case. I’m ashamed to say I just hid down there with a self immolation/fire ball ritual writ in vitae around me in case one found his way in there. After 12 hours, I felt out into the land and found no one there but the feds investigating the fire. I survived, but through cowardice.

>>97490074
That's just survivor's guilt talking. You lived and that's what's important. I'm sorry for your loss.

>>97490035
>unless you want someone looking like a cross between Doug Dimmadome and Boss Hogg running about the place
Well we already have a Ventrue Dominatrix and her band of merry Doms at one of our manors, we can find you one to your liking -Kakophoni

>>97486525
Hmmmm. Okay, fine, I grant you my blessing to mess around with cats, provided they survive and don't suffer along the way. The world could use a Skitty or two.
>There aren't many wild monkeys in southern Manitoba for me to call. Unless people count, but I've got a mind to try and retain what humanity I have left.
Try a sasquatch or some shit! Who knows, maybe you could find one, sell it to cryptozoologists, make big dosh.
>>97486871
God, that's so unbelievably ugly. I love it. Dorky little fucking thing. It's like Lavender if he was more honest with himself.
I mean, I personally don't mind AI stuff, so long as there isn't a deluge of it. Much as it is always a good thing to toss cash at good artists, a giant cricket isn't the most art-demanding thing. Plus OldBlood could've even in-character used AI stuff to cheekily show masquerade-breaching stuff without truly showing it. Doesn't quite feel in-character for what I've seen thus far, but conceptually possible.

>>97486871
>I don't want any animation in that thing.
Thank God there's somebody reasonable in this house! Or in a ditch near the house, anyways.

>Reliable seership isn't kind to those with the 'gift' I suppose.
Having to babysit little pieces of farseeing focus is so annoying, you have no clue. Cards were never meant to be fussy or have opinions. Frankly, making them was only marginally worse.

>>97488562
>I want nothing to do with a goddess that tells wolves they ought to kill orphans like me, or die trying, as if this would stop the apocalypse.
Eh, I think you and I both know it's not something voluntary. You want nothing to do with her, I want nothing to do with the Tremere Supreme, or the Antediluvians, or Caine or whatever else, yet we are what we are.
But the sentiment is understandable, regardless. Love found family stories, I'm living in one. Just don't get your family exterminated by hunters, okay, woof-woof?

>>97490035
>I assume you mean the Appalachians?
She's actually in the Rockies, with us! I have to confirm, the mountains really are pretty. Discounting all the fucking werewolves, ghosts, and whatever is possessing people and making them cough up lightning, unlife here is pretty nice.
>Why did the east coast go up in flames though?
Caitiff revolution or something. They got a werewolf, even, it's really something, so long as you're several states away and thus not in the splash zone.

>>97490035
>Why the diablierie of an abomination though
An abomination was spotted, Blue Fairy and Boy Toy went on "patrol", they brought silver weapons, the abomination found them first, eventually Boy Toy bit the damned thing to save Blue Fairy, and never let go until it was out of its misery.
Later on, in a rare moment of clarity, he told me the story of how he chased a captive Amur leopard he accidentally had released from its enclosure to make me my most precious fur coat and win my love back.
In the end he answered my question about the flavour of an abomination's blood: "That fucker's vitae tasted better than finally snapping the Amur leopard's neck after that long hunt in a dark urban jungle AND watching Mother 'fuck the lady in the mirror' with the finished fur coat AND our latest two SM orgies - combined."
He became incapable of experiencing pleasure or think about anything except the abomination, and ultimately his body deteriorated about as fast as his mind did.

Now that I think about it, another reason to create these abominations may have involved distilling a most devastating drug: an arranged, artificial marriage of a werewolf's vigorous blood with the addictiveness of kindred vitae.

>>97490035
>>97492043
>Why did the east coast go up in flames though?
Revelation and her goons understand that, in order to recruit into her movement assorted outcasts, thinbloods, Brujahs - and as I recently discovered, post-modernist Toreadors, she needed to defy authority in a most brazen display.

What was supposed to be an attack by a large group of hunters on the thinblood and Caitiff population in North Bronx became a massacre of said hunters by her group, and while the internet and electricity were down, she somehow livestreamed a speech on top of a wrecked NYPD car with "FUCK THE" written in red before the logo.

She respects nothing: slew hunters, broke the Masquerade, brought a werewolf to Elysium then pretended to bend the knee to the "competent" authorities there, her idea of having the Lasombra pay back the Nosferatus was to make the Catholic Church in NY convince the NY Shadows to join the Camarilla, had said werewolf deny the Central Park sept warder a warrior's death, I have no idea what Revelation's pet Danava is doing with Pentex but I am more than certain the deal will result in more Bond villainy.

My postmodern clanmates in the Big Apple were singing the praise of how Revelation oscillates between anarchy and tyranny, playing by the rules and unmaking them, reinventing new strategies, bridging the gap between the lowest and the highest ranks of the kindred, operating inside and outside the Masquerade, transfixing my fellow Bullfighters again and again. I wish I received a penny every time they said "discourse", "rhizomatic", "simulacrum", "deconstruction."
That made me die a little inside.

But to answer your question, the East Coast is not up in flames just yet, but everybody knows the hunters will be back for vengeance, and I find most probable that the werewolves should wish to do something about this nonsense as well.

>>97492049
>My postmodern clanmates in the Big Apple were singing the praise of how Revelation oscillates between anarchy and tyranny, playing by the rules and unmaking them, reinventing new strategies, bridging the gap between the lowest and the highest ranks of the kindred, operating inside and outside the Masquerade, transfixing my fellow Bullfighters again and again. I wish I received a penny every time they said "discourse", "rhizomatic", "simulacrum", "deconstruction."
Why do I want to visit the Museum of Modern Art all of a sudden?

>>97491357
>Well we already have a Ventrue Dominatrix and her band of merry Doms at one of our manors, we can find you one to your liking -Kakophoni
Erm, Kakophoni? Venus in Furs, me and her other childer are Toreadors!
But we do have a Ventrue in the family, it's Princess Charming.

>>97491361
>Hmmmm. Okay, fine, I grant you my blessing to mess around with cats, provided they survive and don't suffer along the way. The world could use a Skitty or two.
I'm glad you agree. I'll have to make an Espurr too, teach it auspex, use it as a sentry.
>Try a sasquatch or some shit! Who knows, maybe you could find one, sell it to cryptozoologists, make big dosh.
I'm in the prairies, sasquatch is more of a forest creature, central and northern Manitoba. I think practicing vicissitude on one would be a crime against humanity still, they're supposed to be as or more intelligent than a human aren't they? I wouldn't be surprised if they're some kind of shifter, fucking with them might be a horrible idea.
>God, that's so unbelievably ugly. I love it. Dorky little fucking thing. It's like Lavender if he was more honest with himself.
I'm glad you like it! I might make a few more, I have two right now. Dumb as a bag of hammers, but they can bite pretty hard (snapped a 2x4 plank with one bite). Took fifty crickets each to make. One box of 100 was $20 CAD. Complete bargain on biomass. My sire was both not impressed with them (not scary enough) and very impressed (at the craftsmanship). I could crank them out while watching YouTube videos in the background, they're very easy to create as I don't need to keep them alive with vitae when I disassemble them. Time-consuming though, very small pieces. Lego is an apt comparison.

>>97486871
>>97494251
Ain't that critter looking too much like a football?

>>97495229
I was kind of going for that. The war-paint and dappled abdomen completes the look.

>>97490035
I wouldn't recommend binding either the spirits of the Rockies or the spirits of Appalachia. For different reasons. The roots of the Rockies are old and potent. More powerful and cunning folk than you have been crushed by them, and the rot of their vanity is something I'm still dealing with. Appalachia though? The things there I'm told are cruel and alien. There's a reason the old slopes are unclaimed.

>>97490074
No shame in accepting the loss. You're not the first one to keep your failings with you, and you won't be the last.

>>97486871
Hm. Cute.

>>97492083
I meant more that she dominates Ventrue, her strong ties to the clan gave the impression that she does Dom work for them.. -Kakophoni
not sure how I fucked that up, I must have been really damn tired when I typed it.

>>97490060
>>97490074
Down by two limbs and outnumbered and everything around you on fire, and THAT'S when you ran. If I had cowards like that under me, I'd be the Archbishop of San Francisco.

>>97496695
Speak of the devil, we might have our first client here sooner than we thought.
Girls? I expect you to be on your... worst behaviour. Heheheh!

Feeding off bears mid-hibernation is easier than I remember.
Hell of a lot safer than going after moose that's for certain.

Also for denizens of the Trem clan, do you have any neighbours of the Blood? I spied... Something out there on the hunt tonight.

>>97491260
I can rebuild to an extent or just keep my formulae to myself.

>>97491357
Eh. Moving to Europe is a nuisance even when alive. Thanks for the offer though!

>>97491374
Ancient spirits already live where I am. My people lived here for millennia, damn near autocthonous we are. It might depend on if there’s a connection between the shoshone/comanche and the area though. All peaceful out here on the third coast thankfully.

>>97492043
Pity it had such deleterious effects on him. Aside from the mommy issues you’ve instilled, he seemed like a knowledgeable man about vehicles. Careful about creating abominations, I can’t imagine that would carry out well in the long term.
>>97492049
Like every child she’s chosen to rebel. But every seed must die before it grows. Now they must be tought how to truly sleep.
>>97495675
Brazen but not quite foolhardy, I. Appreciate the warning and the sentiments.
>>97496799
I was already damnably stubborn when living. Add on how us fiends are DAMN hard to kill permanently to that list and I’d be surprised if I don’t make it a millenium. I might go check out the sabbat city near my. Houston is supposed to be their hub currently. That and El Paso, but one’s a hell of a lot closer to me. You flatter me though.
>>97501158
Sucking off bears huh? The YMCA is still good for something I guess.

when did the captch get so damn complicated. Quite a bother that is. And fuck your spam detector let me reply to all these in one post mods.

I think something's up with my computer, won't be posting as often as a result until I figure it out.
>>97502299
We have manors and havens all over, but if you are sure then we'll leave you be. call me if you need anything

>>97501158
Broadly, there are Kindred in cities near our domain. Their presence is limited. Mostly separate individuals or small groups, typically Anarch or 'Camarilla' with no ties to the greater whole, because it is a backwater area, and because the wolves prowl the streets, at times, in search of quarry to bring as offerings to their masters.

We make sure to hold meetings with the locals in cities, usually. Invitations to the manor are reserved for special occasions, like you and your companion.

Whoever treads on our territory is a trespasser, and will be warned of their crime by our wards. Nothing very violent, but they will know they're not wanted where they are. There are rare country Gangrel, who in their travels pass through our domain, but as of late they've steered clear of us, presumably because the land reeks of Garou. Some strange cases exist still, and I, as our Nemesis, impart justice for slights, and redundantly keep record of them in case our true record keeper fails. I will be happy to detail some of the odd incidents, if you want any.

For the record, our siblings and the last few ghouls are arriving tonight. The siblings may or may not be of use to you. One is specialized in handling fine matters, things like what you are seeking to fix, but he has little experience with the caern's energies, as we have been extremely conservative in how we mess with it. He may prove useful in ghost-appeasing, but his field is mainly using them. Another is an expert in blood-bonds and other ties that bind the dead, and the living, the land and those that walk on it, and all in-between. She is the oldest of us, and the mistress of our wards and guarding seals, of our pacts and of our agreements, and keeper of records. The last is our artificier. She assisted in making of the eyepatch you wear, and the tools we will gift you in case you'll need arms to defend yourself with.

What did you see out there? Perhaps it's an uninvited guest we had before.

>>97494251
>I'll have to make an Espurr too, teach it auspex, use it as a sentry.
God that sounds both adorable and horrifying. I endorse this immensely.

>They're supposed to be as or more intelligent than a human aren't they?
I really don't want to think about that in those terms. Some Nossies can talk to animals, can't they? That kind of necessitates the animals being clever enough to communicate useful info, even if they can't do that normally. Which inherently means every animal is a tiny bit of vitae, either in Discipline form or ghouling, away from being very, very clever.

>My sire was both not impressed with them (not scary enough)
I mean, if there'd be like twenty of those flying at a target to try to bite chunks off of them, they'd be pretty scary. Especially if you figure out how to make them procreate and turn valuable, dense biomass like humans into a bulk amount of more of themselves. But I'd imagine you guys have some sort of compulsions against accidentally creating invasive, self-replicating species like that. Surely. Suuuurely.

The day of my grand debut and grand opening of our new dungeon finally came. Or night, I legit forgot, the sun ain't shining down here.
Princess Charming reunited with her beloved Blue Fairy and joined us for the quintuple domination of one special, wealthy client from the Middle East.

Mama Venus wanted to lend me her black jaguar fur coat the occasion, but I had a better plan. When he brushed his face against my calf like a kitten and asked what animal I wore, I said: "Darkness." That caught him off guard. He wondered what else I could do with this darkness, I grinned and ordered him to open wide.
Yanking the chain around his neck with my left, beating him with his own leathery toy with my right, my shadow tentacle fucking his throat, this fur coat of darkness dancing to the rhythm of my thrusts, the ancient dungeon lit by candles... And then he surrendered his ass to me. I ain't ever felt more powerful.

When we were done playing he left us a number of gifts. Mom opened hers and fainted, she ain't even transfixed, she straight up fell in the arms of Assoluta when she saw five adult golden tiger pelts as her payment, they're white and yellow-orange, no black stripes.

And what did you little fledgling Scarlet get for all her hard work? A card. Princess Charming was staring at it, shaking harder than me.
She was like: "That's not a credit card, that is... a debit card you're holding. It's covered in platinum. The dream of every wage slave on this planet is in your hands!"
I came. I came blood. More than when I had periods.
Ghouls are cleaning up the floor and my thighs.

I fucking love being a vampire.

>>97502307
>Aside from the mommy issues you’ve instilled
Ahahahaha! Oh no, my dear! His issues were part of the package, and they found me first!
His dad was a pushover, his mom a control freak, and on the night of his embrace he told me he wished I was his mother, and I granted that wish.
If anyone is interested, among the services House Venus offers, we have the Mommy Solutions.™
>he seemed like a knowledgeable man about vehicles.
He had many traditionally "manly" interests and automobiles and other machines were definitely one of his strongest passions.
On that note, if our cars aren't on European soil within 24 hours, I'm going to take my sweet time finding and punishing those responsible.

So many agents leaving major cities across the States, I wonder where they could be redeployed next...
>>97502307
>Like every child she’s chosen to rebel.
I am over a century older than Venus, and this is but the next phase in our society's natural, historic evolution. Even the Catholics understood they cannot replicate the same exact beliefs, rituals and protocols in the age of artificial intelligence, so they won't continue to behave as if feudalism was still fashionable.
>But every seed must die before it grows.
I wholeheartedly agree.
>Now they must be tought how to truly sleep.
The earth's embrace? I already sleep like the Elders do.

>>97503148
>God that sounds both adorable and horrifying. I endorse this immensely.
Well good news a grey tabby showed up last night while I was meditating and thinking of cats, so we'll see how it goes.
>I really don't want to think about that in those terms. Some Nossies can talk to animals, can't they? That kind of necessitates the animals being clever enough to communicate useful info, even if they can't do that normally. Which inherently means every animal is a tiny bit of vitae, either in Discipline form or ghouling, away from being very, very clever.
Shit a lot of clans can talk to animals, I can I'm just not very practiced in it. Some animals are smarter than others.
>I mean, if there'd be like twenty of those flying at a target to try to bite chunks off of them, they'd be pretty scary. Especially if you figure out how to make them procreate and turn valuable, dense biomass like humans into a bulk amount of more of themselves. But I'd imagine you guys have some sort of compulsions against accidentally creating invasive, self-replicating species like that. Surely. Suuuurely.
I've been curious for some time as to whether or not vicissitude operates on a genetic level, these alterations I make to creatures could be inherited if so. It would explain revenant families too. I'm not a geneticist though, I was embraced because I'm good at sculpting and have a passing interest in biology.

>>97503125
Alright then, come sundown I'll head out to retrieve my Cat, and we can have the rite. The stain should be lifted across all of them. Even if your kin aren't as directly related, the actions of your sire still have a weight.
And I can finally clear out my den of the sins committed here. Gotta say, I can take like the city Nos in many ways, but how some of those boys live in crypts is beyond me.

Also, the ritual does involve a bonfire and since you're the most familiar of your folk, I'll ask you make sure no one else has an episode.

>What did you see out there?
Oddest thing. Smelled it first when I was out on the periphery in the loup camp. Finally caught sight of it tonight. Smelled like a Gang, but weird. Couldn't identify it. Hunched over, wearing a headdress with antlers. Whole lot of blond hair and black eyes. Scuttled off like a spider before I could make out finer details.

Have anything on record about someone like that? I don't think it's a threat, for the moment anyways.

>>97502307
What's the Young Men Christian Association got to do with bears? Do they hunt or something?

Quiet night huh? Well, suppose it's better than more tragedies.

Question; If you could eat one more thing like before you died, what would you eat?

I'd kill for icecream.

Revelation was in the New York area correct?

>>97508573
Yes and she claimed the North Bronx as her territory

>>97507969
I'm hoping it's not the calm before the storm, but it always is. Don't even need to use auspex to sense it, it's just human pattern recognition.

To answer your question it's either my mom's burritos or my mom's hot Italian spaghetti. Or my dad's Greek ribs, or my dad's steaks. They're still alive but I think it would be a horrible idea to go see them. Eating their cooking would be worth the vomiting later, too bad everything that's not blood tastes like dust and ash. Oh or my dad's Mexican omelets.

>>97507969
Unlike most kindred, I can eat and savor food, but I'm still unable to digest or absorb it. The biggest differences from my mortal days involve losing the enjoyment a mortal gets from the nourishment, and how much in terms of sheer volume of it is absorbed and doesn't become, ultimately, feces. Both are more than people think.
These nights, I just spit out the food after chewing it, and use drinks like a mouthwash.

>>97507969
Greasy New York pizza. The one notable upside to never being able to taste it again is that I, at least, got to try it before it broadly went down in quality and up in price, so I've sampled the finest triangles of concentrated artery-clog, and can be content with that.

>>97503440
I've been requested to inform you that my Grand-Sire wishes to see Princess Charming in person, and wants to ask her several questions about the events unfolding in New York. He will meet her in the primary Elysium of Zurich at night of her convenience.
Her safety, and yours, are assured. He does not currently consider you at fault for the neo-Carthage unfolding in New York.

Venus should pretty shortly get a set of letters from Bridgeport Kindred, delivered to the proverbial couch she's crashing on by way of Nossies. There's one letter from Romeo and Juliet, the latter of whom is the reason the mail was delivered in the first place. The letter thanks Venus for her aid with solving their clan impasse, and mentions that Venus's owed a single mid-range favor she can cash in with Nossies in Europe, Juliet'll pay for it. Two are from Noblesse and his Sire, former is a biiiit less formal but still formal, the latter very cookie-cutter but at least signed personally. They're general well-wish stuff, with Noblesse's letter expressing condolences that they had to leave so soon. There's a letter from the Toreador coterie, just utterly fucking loaded with perfume, and, finally, a letter's from Tats to Scarlet. It's very obviously written by Noblesse, probably because she can't hold a pen without breaking it, or is maybe illiterate, either option would be a reasonable guess. The letter lists a training regimen and methods to build the mentality to use oneself as a weapon, as to maximize the usefulness of Potence, and there's a silver spike piercing in the envelope.

>>97504942
>Also, the ritual does involve a bonfire and since you're the most familiar of your folk, I'll ask you make sure no one else has an episode.

Despite their frequent protests, I have made a point of training my kin to be able to function even while under mental pressure from nearby fire. It's why Lavender managed to run through a burning forest, instead of panicking and breaking. And why he will, being a whiny child, complain about it if you ask.
I'll keep an eye on them regardless.

>Smelled like a Gang, but weird
>Can't identify it
>Hunched over
>Antler headdress
>Blond mane
>Black eyes
>Moves abnormally

Hm. There are some options, a few of which I had hunted or encountered, at least, and some of which our record keeper has notes on. This is not an exhaustive list, but ones that jump to my mind the most.

One. Kine who fell under influence of things non-corporeal. Some are descendants of the locals, petty shamans and such, overwhelmed by their lineage's gifts. Some must be just unlucky, out and about when something of nature beyond them takes hold of them. They typically stay away from our territory, and visit other, lesser caerns in the Rockies, or just shrines and such.

Two. Kindred, either loyal to our Sire or to his rival, who must've become afflicted the same way your cat is, now, and who must've kept themselves hidden until now. I do not believe in this option, but I suppose it is only improbable, not impossible.

Three. Things that are neither Kine nor Kindred. Beast-men that wear human skin to blend in, hunters poorly passing at being human to get to their quarry better, strange animals that vanish behind trees, trees-that-walk and trees-that-aren't. These fall more into the expertise of our recordskeeper. As the oldest, she helped our Sire rid his land of guests of strange nature a long while back. Some of them don't bleed at all, some of them bleed oddly, and some of them feel just like Kine or Kindred or Garou, but are not quite that.

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[Montane Layover, Update 4]
Well. That went as well as it could have. I think. Time for recap.

>After about two hours of shifting 'material' before dusk, and one last round-about through the Trem Lodge, I got the ritual pyre lit
>And that absolute abomination on the torch, sorry about all the hard work you did stitch but I'm glad it doesn't exist anymore
>Went out to retrieve my Cat for the rite, no complications even if she voluntarily gagged herself with my belt, and the Loups were incredulous about the instructions I delivered
>Returned likewise without complication, stripped with how groddy this would get, set up the final preparations, ungagged the cat and let the voices out
>Not a fun experience, but we both agreed it was necessary
>Called out the denizens of the house for the rite once we both looked sufficiently like Mormon nightmares
>After this I'll admit my grasp on reality got... Fuzzy. Might have been the influence of Mèo, or something else. Bit of a fever dream regardless.
>Voices possessing the cat began to manifest in the fire as every sin committed here in recent memory went onto the pyre, faces and shapes formed in the flames. Voices spun a pretty yarn about it, though, when you have two dozen tongues forcing their way out of a single mouth it got garbled. Wasn't about specifics though. More the feeling. Which was bad.
>They said their part though, and I carried through, plunging my arm into the fire for pure ash to 'wipe away the past.'
>Most of the clan took it pretty well. Although Lavender tried to say something and got a mouthful. Sorry about that.
>After finishing off the last of them, and the voices started to wane, the Loups arrived. Most in warforms aside Bee.
>Did the same for them.

>>97510760
>Over the process the voices coming out of the cat actively diminished, until I finished with the nominal leader of the Loups, a big-ass Wentiko in the Hispo, bear-sized, human face. Let's call her 'Polar.' As soon as her face was covered, Mèo-Mèo finally fell silent. Would have fallen over if I hadn't caught her.
>After about a minute of awkward staring between the two camps, Polar managed to approach Lavender and offered an awkward hand-paw shake. Much as they could, she's huge. Then promptly withdrew with her peers. Glad she didn't make her suicide attempt on the Caern.
>Rest of the night was uneventful, though at least one voice inside Mèo-Mèo renders her mute and re-gagged for the time being as our collective 'feathered friend' is really not happy about their present relation with the cat. Although at least for the time being she can serve as a vector for communication. Regardless. One goal is dealt with. Shadows listed. Basic parity established and I've got the contacts for this.
>Now however comes the negotiation where we need to lay down what is to be done with the Caern, what the plan is with the Animkiig, and what the future actually looks like. Though hopefully digging through the dirty laundry of the Trem sire will shed some light on the subject.

>>97507969
Bread. I think I'd just like warm bread again, now that I think about it.
Better not to dwell on that though.

>>97509441
I'd err towards the middle option, just on grounds I know what my own line smells like, and I'm unfortunately familiar with the trees-that-aren't. I will consult with your record keeper on the matter. I have ideas.

We have enough interlopers on this damned mountain. We don't need more.

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Reminder for anyone that has heard Brujah speak of Carthage:

Carthage was ruled by demon worshippers who would rape, torture, and sacrifice children.
the kine did not coexist with the Brujah, they were kept under a nightmarish regime that would make even the cruelest of voivodes look like a saint in comparison.

NEVER trust a Brujah when it comes to Carthage and ALWAYS report them to the Prince for infernalism if they do

*innocent whistling*

>>97509078
>I've been requested to inform you that my Grand-Sire wishes to see Princess Charming in person, and wants to ask her several questions about the events unfolding in New York. He will meet her in the primary Elysium of Zurich at night of her convenience.
>Her safety, and yours, are assured. He does not currently consider you at fault for the neo-Carthage unfolding in New York.
Done.
That is such a fortunate request: we just happened to have a few things to deposit and withdraw in Switzerland. House Venus voted unanimously for a weekend in Zurich, we should meet in the night between the 7th and the 8th - and for once, Scarlet will be paying the bills.
I would highly recommend your Grand-Sire and any other interested fellow Patricians a private conversation with mamma Venus in Furs as well, given her superior knowledge of Revelation's diverse talents and intricate - when not outright labyrinthine - demeanor.

>>97509078
Venus cares a lot for any correspondence she receives, she leaves it to Mercury Lamp's tiny hands and tools to open all letters with the least damage possible, preserving the envelopes and their contents to the best of her ability.

Venus saw Assoluta open her reply from the viola d'amore player the latter met during their vacation in Bridgeport. The prima donna of House Venus ripped open the envelope with none of her sire's grace, and she found two poems inside: one dedicated to Assoluta and another to Boy Toy, she recited them aloud, held them to her chest, then three drops of blood fell out of her tear duct onto the paper.

After Scarlet read Tats' letter, she held the spike piercing in one hand, the Middle Eastern client's debit card in the other, looked at both, sighed, put both on top of the nearest nightstand, and went for a smoke.

>>97511247
>Source?
>Grand pop-pop whose sire salted Carthage and needs to justify it to the rest of us
If Tremere had done us all a favour and diablerized the Latins, we'd be living in utopia by now.

>>97511807

>Tats'
?? don't recognize the name

>>97513160
Tats is a rather typical Brujah girl from the Bridgeport Camarilla scene, she has a mohawk and she is part of NoblesseObleedge's coterie. She is not part of House Venus. She was Scarlet's first teacher of Potence.

>>97513196
speaking of teachers, Kakophoni would likely be taking Scarlet for Obtenebration training when she's free but if training isn't scheduled he'll be working around the manor House Venus is staying in maintaining things. He's stationed there until the situation calms down though he travels between occasionally when called by Scholar. If you want Scarlet could try getting Kakophoni to sing, citing overhearing one of Scholar staff mention it. I think that'd be a good hook for an emotional moment as due to Kak's powers it'd be a truly otherworldly experience if he really gets into it. I should restate that he's powerful with Melpominee and due to the modifications made by Scholar his abilities are rather unique, instead of only strong emotions invoked by his song the listener will get a full sensory experience to go with it. example being if he sang a love song then the listener would experience a vision that'd be like a music video staring themselves or if the song is like the Chemical Worker's Song then it'd be visions of the conditions described in the song alongside phantom pain of the injuries described.

>>97507969
Anything that wasn't dirt. Especially if we're talking back in 75 or 76 when all I could taste was dirt.

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>>97509078
After House Venus is done with the obligatory presentation to the Prince of Zurich and more pleasantries, Princess Charming is escorted to a room wherein she holds a little presentation for NoblesseObleedge's Grand-Sire, the Swiss Ventrue and a select few other interested parties in Elysium, before she answers questions in private.

To the surprise of no one, she was "evacuated" from the US - a polite way to say: "kidnapped and hurled inside a plane" - as soon as her older Blue Bloods from Lazio suspected something is rotten with the state of NYC, for her own safety.

Here are her theories.

A. NY VENTRUE MOTIVES
A1. Rogue. Turned their back on the Traditions they enforced
A2. Compromised. Some enemies infiltrated, manipulate, etc the legitimate authorities
A3. Reformists. Change the Camarilla from within
A4. Traditionalists. Too weak with no way to enforce the Traditions anymore

B. REVELATION'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NY VENTRUE
B1. Pawn. Ventrue call the shots
B2. Friend. Fighting mutual enemies
B3. Queen. Revelation calls the shots
B4. Enemy. Fighting the Ventrue

C. REVELATION'S MOTIVES
C1. Radical. Legit founder of Newest Carthage in NY
C2. Progressive. Wants to see the wheel spinning, not reinvented
C3. Conservative. Improving status, influence, cult like most other kindred would
C4. Reactionary. Taking the piss and will remove the degeneracy in one grand scheme

D. NEWEST CARTHAGE'S NATURE
D1. Ventrue Carthage. Demonic cult
D2. Domain. Revelation's cult
D3. Brujah Carthage. Moonshine & rainbows utopia
D4. "True White Hand." Camarilla elite army

"Though a few of these may benefit us, in my opinion the risk and costs are already too high."

Blue Fairy would've praised her command of logic and eloquence by likening her to a #1 rank scholar in the Chinese imperial examination.

The speech ends in the style of Cato the Censor:
"CETERUM CENSEO CARTHAGINEM ESSE DELENDAM"

Princess Charming looks a lot like a heavily tanned pic related.

>>97509078
>>97514975
Ultimately, Princess Charming's message is that we don't need a deep understanding of whatever the hell is happening in that shithole.

"All the combinations of hypotheses led me to one singular conclusion.

Even if the Prince, Primogen Council, Revelation and her cultists may have been useful to somebody - at some point in the past - it is safe to say they have long outlived their usefulness.

It is my opinion, therefore, that more powerful and experienced Elders should intervene, remove the kindred from both parties whether guilty or innocent, and replace with something that can finally advance the goals of the Camarilla in this most important of cities."

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Man everyone is dressed sharply in here, gotta be the French and Italian influences. I'm sure their tongues are even sharper and could tear me apart in like six different languages.
>>97513264
Presently, Scarlet is in Zurich and trying not to fumble her own words within and without Elysium.

Here's the thing: Scarlet needs to continue to train in "obvious Toreador stuff", which does indeed include singing, and Assoluta will not teach her.

Not only could Kakophoni teach Scarlet something, this would happen with the blessing of Venus in Furs.

However, Scarlet doesn't know pretty much anything about Kakophoni, the abilities thereof, the bloodline of the Daughters of Cacophony, the Discipline of Melpominee...

You could have the guy make the first move directly, or we could arrange something where Scarlet finds herself singing for the entertainment of Mercury Lamp and the dolls, and Kakophoni joins in and impresses all of them. The humans among the dolls are trauma victims, and being able to experience (positive) emotions this way would be most appreciated by all parties involved.

Let me know what you think, including if you have a different idea. Either way we will be able to arrange something once House Venus returns to the manor in Austria.

I think Revelation is going to enjoy this offer from Pentex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6KGuTr9TI

>>97510760
>Most of the clan took it pretty well. Although Lavender tried to say something and got a mouthful. Sorry about that.
FGHHEHEHEHEHE HIS FUCKING FACE
GOD I NEARLY BROKE AND LAUGHED
We'd probably have gotten mauled if I did, but godddd it would've been so worth it.

>Polar managed to approach Lavender and offered an awkward hand-paw shake. Much as they could, she's huge.
I love a polar opposites couple. They'd be so cute together. What's your take? Remember, wolves (probably) can't see what you write here, so they probably won't try to kill us for discussing the romantic potential there.

>Now however comes the negotiation where we need to lay down what is to be done with the Caern, what the plan is with the Animkiig, and what the future actually looks like.

I personally have not even a single clue for what's the best move here, and I really don't want to try asking my cards for it. Feels like that'd invite trouble.
My initial instinct is that some sort of graceful abandonment of the caern's the best, but it also feels like a trap option precisely because it's the simplest and most obvious.
Eughhhhh. So glad it'll be a family decision, so my vote is not at all decisive.

>>97511247
>>97512481
Not one person who uses SchreckNet ever had anything to do with actual Carthage, why can't you people just shut up about it already.

>>97514998
The Grand-Sire will be introduced as 'Michael the Taxiarch' by his attendants. Princess Charming would be able to see that he's treated politely by Zurich authorities, with locals generally really trying to keep their distance for immediately obvious reasons. He'd not carry around a badge saying 'hi hello I'm older than Christianity', but he's not going to be hiding it, either, and Charming's definitely clever enough to put two and two together and figure out what sort of a person she's giving a little speech for.

He's still as a statue, not blinking or doing any even halfway normal little physical tics; speaks with a clear, strange accent he is not bothering to conceal whatsoever, ethnically speaking is maybe Greek, but the northern sort, and even that is hard to nail down. Dresses in standard Ventrue garb, probably picked out by the attendants. He's got this discontent air to him, aimed not specifically at Charming but at having to do things this particular, slow way. Talking to him is somewhat like talking to an eagle if you're a field mouse. He's unarmed, not that it matters much, and if Princess Charming manages to see his aura, she'll see a vivid one, with very clear taint of diablerie of a soul even more powerful than his.

He'll listen to her input fairly attentively, squint a little at her offering suggestions for what Elders should do - which will be the first time she sees the squint-muscles of his face move this evening - and then he'll ask her a few questions.

1. Does she know her lineage?
2. Does she think she'll be of any worth in the conquest of New York, and purification of those sullying it?
3. Does she think her mother will be of any worth in that?
4. Does she think New York is the sort of place where it'd be feasible to conduct a war unrestricted, clean and fast, or the Masquerade demands carefulness?

>>97516832
Princess Charming can read auras. The Taxiarch's squint does not escape her notice. She bows and carefully weighs her words before each answer.
>1
I am of the Clan of Kings. I was embraced in Korea. My sire's Anarch connections were exposed a few days after my embrace, although the embrace itself was lawful. I would like to leave my sire's name to damnatio memoriae, but I will name them if you believe it is of any value to you. What matters more to me is that one Emily Carson brought me back to Europe, took care of my education and training, and made me the kindred I was meant to be.
>2
This is one of the reasons my modest proposal is aimed at our Elders and not at younger kindred. A single glance told me Revelation was completely out of my league and the monsters she is working with also fit such a description. My Italian Ventrue connections chose to rescue me from this disaster because we all knew I couldn't do much about it.
>3.
Whether by my "mother" we mean Emily Carson or Venus in Furs, I am not happy to report they cannot help us either. Revelation is twice as old as either. Doubtless, they'd make better, more loyal, Primogens once the fight is over - NY is a very low bar - but maybe they'll admit to being too weak for such an honor as well.
>4
I think New York can be reclaimed with next to no Masquerade breaches.
Revelation stole the city from under the nose of the Camarilla, or what was left of it, with the power of her two centuries of unlife, two more Caitiff and a... well... a lupine.
A twofold operation removing the worthless Primogen Council and those four leaders of the so-called Newest Carthage should leave the rabble of foolish thinbloods, Caitiff and Brujah without a leadership - since all they understand is violence, they will bow once more to the greater power.
Speaking of the Masquerade, every second a kine enters this Newest Carthage where blood dolls work double duty as Revelation's cult missionaries.

>>97516832
>>97517095
Princess Charming gets on her hands knees and stares at the floor. Her voice is trembling.
"I beseech you Master... please end this farce... and restore the Traditions... before more cities are lost."

>>97516633
> What's your take?
She's an old girl, so I don't know, I'm not one to prod people's personal relations of that sort.
Does he like grandmothers?

>Eughhhhh. So glad it'll be a family decision, so my vote is not at all decisive.
It is your future, so don't slack on considering what you want to do with it.

Also, joining some of your neighbours on the hunt tonight before I go library diving. I'll let you all know how it goes, and what I can glean.

>>97515062
If Kak sings for the trauma victims he'd probably chose a song that would cause them to relax and forget their pain for a moment. Kak's been through some rough shit himself so he'd sympathize. One route is that one of the trauma-victim dolls is having a breakdown/ptsd episode and Kak sings to them to calm them and one of House Venus can witness it thus leading to singing lessons.

>>97517095
He'll clarify the question of lineage. Her being a Ventrue is why he graces her with a personal conversation, instead of dispatching his offspring to negotiate with Venus.
Princess's Sire means nothing. What means everything is the rest of the line going up to the Ventrue Antediluvian; especially the Childe of the ancient. He'll explain it simply, with a fair bit of patience, which kind of conflicts with his ever-tired of life demeanor: there's modern Ventrue who know nearly nothing of where they come from, whose sole advantage over fledglings their age is that they do belong to the clan of kings, at least.
And then there's Ventrue who know the history of their blood. Ones who know if they are of the line of the crown, or of the line of the spear; if they're of the line of orators or of the line of eternal growth. He'll ask again - from which Methuselah does she descend? Or does she simply not know?
He'll acknowledge her claims of weakness of her own and that of Venus without much elaboration. It seems to elicit a bit of approval from him, on grounds of that he appreciates honesty.

>>97517128
This he'll squint at, again, and tell her to cease groveling. That is for lesser beings, and lesser clans. She is a Ventrue, and should talk with her head high, while still showing her betters due respect. He's certainly not disagreeing with her request, though, so that's probably a win. He seems on-board with the proposal of extreme violence to root Revelation out, anyways, but focuses on the immediate embarrassment of a groveling sort-of niece more than, to him, the minor chore of visiting a city across the Atlantic to exterminate a cult.

>>97518535
>He'll ask again - from which Methuselah does she descend? Or does she simply not know?
She confesses, like an altar boy who just killed somebody in self-defense would do to a cardinal, that she never knew her "biological" sire's own sire, and that such grand-sire spurned the tradition of agoge.
Princess Charming mentions she knows a Tremere could answer this question for her, but she "inherited" her mistrust for that clan from her adoptive sire, Emily Carson, and the more she studied the Warlocks' history, the less her trust.
Ultimately, she was raised "as if" she was of Alexander's bloodline just like Carson.
>there's modern Ventrue who know nearly nothing of where they come from, whose sole advantage over fledglings their age is that they do belong to the clan of kings, at least
"I must be a product of my time, then." She sniffs once, an expression of sadness and frustration.
>This he'll squint at, again, and tell her to cease groveling
The girl immediately stands back up and wipes away the minuscule amount of dirt she had on her skirt.
For a moment, she thinks of mentioning how even Alexander the Great would bow before somebody like Diogenes the Cynic, but the less than ideal timing causes her to kill that thought.

As much as Princess Charming is deeply ashamed of failing to live up to the standards of the kind of Ventrue she should have been, and frustrated she had to bother an Elder, there is a subtle flavor of happiness in her aura.

She awaits further questions or instructions, if any. Princess Charming knows her Classics, and whenever the Taxiarch leaves she'll thank him like an ancient Greek: χάριν σοι ἔχω.

First I hoped Princess Charming walks out of that room victorious, now I hope she walks out alive.

The hunters are finally making their move.

All the coffins are ready.

>>97519080
Prepare to open every last one of them.

>>97519085
You sure? All of them?

>>97519089
All of them.

>>97519061

>"I must be a product of my time, then." She sniffs once, an expression of sadness and frustration.
This earns her a nod, and a plain statement that she's a passing product, at the very least. On the better side in politeness and such.

She's rewarded for her honesty and eagerness to correct her mistakes without Dominate being involved with yet more questioning.

What sort of fury, if any, do attempts at Carthage inspire in Princess Charming? Beyond the game of value, of risk-and-reward, of loyalty and disloyalty, what sort of thought and feeling bubble in her? Does Princess Charming know what the lineage of the spear is? Their history, and their place in this world?

Does she wish to embody heritage she may or may not belong to, being free of strings, just for now, or will she instead chase whatever truth there is to her blood?

>>97519096
>what sort of thought and feeling bubble in her?
"I'm afraid I must include disloyalty into the equation. Revelation was everything a young va- a young kindred wants to be: humble, hardworking, tireless, talented, successful. She freed herself from the Sabbat's bondage, earned her place as a valuable ally to the Camarilla and our Clan in particular, with brawn and brains, mostly by eliminating our enemies.

We used to admire Revelation.

I think it was the cult that got to her. Drunk with the kine's blood and praises, she believes she is an even greater person than she is. Remember the Egyptians who built giant statues of themselves in their own palaces, those were a reminder meant not for the common man slaving in the fields near the Nile, but for the king. And where is the glory of Egypt now?

A common pattern in Newest Carthage is loneliness. As much as the Beast says otherwise, kindred are social animals, they lived in cities since the nights of Caine. We crave companionship, but any group of mortals or Carthage, real or imagined, cannot give us what it doesn't have.

I for one was blessed enough to meet a true companion, one close to being my equal - and naturally, from a "Clan of Queens" if there ever was one.

That is why Venus in Furs is so miserable right now: she could have saved Revelation from her sycophants, from her cult, from herself, but Venus' love was rejected...
>Does Princess Charming know what the lineage of the spear is? Their history, and their place in this world?
"An ancient group of Ventrue who hunt demon-worshippers. Do I care if Newest Carthage worships demons? I just want to see it destroyed.
CETERUM CENSEO CARTHAGINEM ESSE DELENDAM"
>Does she wish to embody heritage she may or may not belong to, being free of strings, just for now, or will she instead chase whatever truth there is to her blood?
"How can I know my lineage with certainty without giving my blood to a sorcerer? Must I learn Thaumaturgy myself?"

>>97519096
>>97519404
"Unless I can learn my heritage in a way that doesn't compromise my safety for the rest of my unlife, I am content with following my natural inclinations of being, allegedly, 'good with words', as kindred young and old have claimed.

But to finally answer your question: the thought of Carthage, in abstracto, doesn't inspire me with the righteous fury and zeal of a warrior, but with the grief of the kine schoolteacher educating children about the worst things humans can do to one another."

Be advised. Reinforcements are on their way. Seek cover. Lay low. You are not alone.

A new, massive deployment of forces surrounds the North Bronx as a patchwork of convenient power outages causes selective blackouts! Does Revelation's army have a winning strategy against the latest horde of hunters? Yes.
Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

I'm giving the cops' donuts and tendies to the poor LMFAO.

>>97520792
Don't forget the guns.

>>97520765
Kindred are reporting sightings of men in body armor fighting abominations all over the place? What the fuck is going on?

>>97520829
Justice.

Revelation, what have you done? -Kakophoni

>>97521185
It's obvious, I'm protecting my people. The hunters will either learn to leave them alone, or die.

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well my fingers finally grew back so now I gotta ask, how does one deal with their ghoul being super creepy? like I genuinely wouldn't want to be alone in a room with this guy he's so obsessed with me for no reason

>>97521185
Having an episode clearly.
Not like this isn't the DEFINING TRAIT OF KINDRED HISTORY OR ANYTHING
UR, MACEDON, CARTHAGE, ROME, PARIS, LONDON, ISTANBUL, EVERY DAMNED SOCIETY THAT GETS BUILT GETS DROPPED EVENTUALLY
INSHALLAH NEW YORK WILL GET ITS DUE

>>97521234
Scare him or make yourself look like ass. Go through sewers or get a knife

>>97521231
I was referring to the abominations. Please tell me you didn't accept that deal.... -Kakophoni

the deal I'm referring to could either be with Pentex or Scholar, your choice.

>>97521243
Pentex gave us powerful weapons to protect us from our many enemies, weapons that cause Delirium.
>>97521265
They chose the Pentex route.

I think I missed a few posts, Revelation is trying to create a new carthage right?

>>97521317
Revelation is:
1. using the idea of Newest Carthage as a recruitment strategy for kindred;
and
2. managing her domain (North Bronx) with her own rules, which means having next to no regard for the Masquerade, to recruit blood dolls and make sure the army is fed.
It is already, de facto, a kind of Carthage. It looks like a Carthage, it smells like a Carthage, the blood dolls are eating iron supplements like in Carthage, Risen Demon swims in blood like she would in Carthage.

>>97521353
mind if I have Scholar throw his lot into the mix, attacking both sides with both his army of creations and childer. I'd be down to write a sort of duel where Revelation and her most trusted are teleported into a shadowlands arena where Scholar intends to deal with the little upstarts himself

>>97517526
>Does he like grandmothers?
Well, he's a goth twink with vague mommy issues of some sort, and is a freak. Sooo, maybe? I can see it working out, he's certainly appreciative of hags and of beauty in its many odd forms. But it's really the love blooming in the battlefield angle that I like here. It's cute.

>It is your future, so don't slack on considering what you want to do with it.
Honestly, it's one of those things I just want to let my sorta-siblings decide. I already babysit them and their futures enough. But you're probably right. Siiiiiiiiiiigh.

Have fun with your hunt! Scream if you'll need help, you've got a house full of Tremeres and ghouls and two Nossies at your beck and call, more or less.

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btw can anyone give me the quick rundown on what this Pentex thing is? I looked it up online and it's just some obscure holding company

>>97521242
I was thinking more like if there was some kind of therapy thingy, not sure if antagonizing the guy responsible for securing me blood is that good of an idea

>>97521376
>mind if I have Scholar throw his lot into the mix, attacking both sides with both his army of creations and childer.
This can definitely be done.
>a sort of duel where Revelation and her most trusted are teleported into a shadowlands arena where Scholar intends to deal with the little upstarts himself
As for this one... Erm, Princess Charming just had a lengthy conversation with a Ventrue older than Christianity to get him to do something about NY. That House Venus is in Zurich so she can talk to an old Ventrue over this disaster is public knowledge (it's the contents that are hidden behind spoilers).
Can I interest you in having Scholar rid the world of Papa Wolf 1 on 1, while other kindred restore some semblance of law and order to the city?

>>97521431
Papa Wolf would get ripped apart, got another idea since I assume the plan is Princess completes her lineage and kills revelation:
a dark shadow forms behind Princess Charming
"Hello demon hunter."
Turning around she sees a tall kindred, pale skin with an unnatural tint and eyes of pure black with a smile far too wide.
"Allow me to introduce myself.."
the shadows begin to coil and twist as he speaks
"you've already met a childer of mine, Kakophoni."
Dread creeps up Princess' spine
"I only wish to extend an offer. I'm aware of what is happening in new york, I know things are getting out of hand. Should you wish to deal with the issue, you will need both power and an army."
The figure extends a hand
"I'm willing to offer you both...."

>>97521425
Sorry lad, guess that'd work even if it's a bit less dramatic. Half my clan treat the blood like we're a religious sect most folk haven't heard of and has a history of reprisal. The other half is like the mob.

Saying that. Therepy might work better. Or- Well you don't end up sucking a dude's cut wrist without having some damage.

Pentex is kind of a corpo boogyman. Essentially when you look up the actual back-room shareholders they actually have unprecedented influence. Fingers everywhere, essentially got effective control of Amazon like- Last year? No. 2022 (fuck me time flies.) Problem is they're kind of useless outside of individual company people who are like- Actual freaks? They want something they can get it, no matter how depraved.

>>97519404
>>97519424
>An ancient group of Ventrue who hunt demon-worshippers.

Michael praises as not incorrect, albeit he still corrects Princess Charming a little. He describes the spear as the firstborns, the rightful heirs; those who embody the most noble of the Ventrue traits, that of their readiness to confront the perils of the world. Michael explains it as the obligation of rulership; if you wish to wear a crown, you must be ready to uphold peace and prosperity, blade in hand. That's what the spears embodied, in their prime. A Ventrue is a crowned head, and hands bearing regalia and weaponry; the spear is the armed hand.

There is far more to the spears than merely hunting cultists, but as it seems that Princess Charming is not of that lineage, given a non-combative demeanor, Michael figures it is not in his place to burden her with knowledge.

He advises her to pursue Thaumaturgic rituals, or to find a Tremere she can trust absolutely, for the matter of lineage. There really are few ways to figure it out without blood magic; the Tremere are the most likely source for it. Venus is a good avenue to start the search, he figures, as while she is youthful, she's connected and nosey, may have contacts. As her superior who does seem to actually want something relatively good for Princess Charming, Michael endorses the quest for lineage; not least of all because even if the result ends up impossible to find, or means nothing to her, to pursue it would be a trial of her strength and wits, and it would hone her nicely.

>That is why Venus in Furs is so miserable right now: she could have saved Revelation from her sycophants, from her cult, from herself, but Venus' love was rejected...

Michael asks his final question - whether Princess Charming thinks that Venus would be able to wrangle Revelation, were somebody to violently and painfully tear the Caitiff from her support structure, or maybe Vensu would fall to sentimentality.

>>97521452
>I assume the plan is Princess completes her lineage and kills revelation
Princess Charming has exactly zero hope of doing anything to Revelation, she'd die faster than Papa Wolf in Scholar's hands.
Rev is a monster with more dots than Princess Charming in every Attribute and 4 dots in each physical Discipline.
That is the reason she was forcibly transported to Europe and needed much older Ventrue handle Revelation, her goons, the nonexistent Camarilla leadership, and whatever survives of the city after the fighting is over.
(Scholar can meet her at the manor where House Venus is living whenever he wants)

Now I have an idea for you: have Scholar offer this deal to the new Prince or a Primogen once the new hierarchy is figured out.

Because I am most certain a new Camarilla scene in NY is DEFINITELY going to need whatever help is Scholar offering.

>>97521515
Scholar offers not only for himself to enter the fight and as a 5th gen methuselah(he's nearly 2 millennia old, just a few centuries off) with a ton of dots in attributes and lots of disciplines due to near constant training and having experience in fighting abominations, shifters and infernalists, he's gonna be ripping apart the enemy. He also is willing to let a large number of his currently dormant creations wake up and be used as an army to deal with both the hunters and Revelation's gaggle of followers, said creatures are a variety but since Pentex abominations are involved he'll bring out his own abominations that are far more stable and capable than Pentex as he's had centuries to refine it. If you want it to get really spooky then he could cast either Ahriman's Demesne or Tchernabog on the area to let abyssal creatures run wild killing anything that resists. No matter the choice, it's gonna be a sobering realization of just how powerful House Scholar is. Though if you want subtle then I can do that.

>>97521425
Pentex is obscure and seemingly not very large by their own design. It is, however, merely concealment of their true scale. As was already correctly pointed out, they've actually got an in with an absurdly vast list of businesses, corporations, governments, organizations, foundations, non-profits... It's easier to make a list of entities that aren't already tied to Pentex directly, or indirectly, or under Pentex observation and interest.
Overall, they differ from most obscure holding companies not just in scale, but also in that they're the sort of business to not just know what you are, but be more open to business with you thanks to that.

>>97521431
>a Ventrue older than Christianity to get him to do something about NY
Speaking of, Michael's definitely getting up off of his dusty ass to do something unless things are solved before he gets to solving them, to the woe of literally everybody involved, especially his Bridgeport Childe and grand-Childe who'll be meeting grandpa. As the tidbits suggest, he's a Methuselah who was around for the fall of Carthage, is merely a step removed from Artemis Orthia thanks to eating somebody of the fifth generation back in the day, and belongs to her cult. He's not so gone mentally as to just show up and murder everybody personally out of boredom, so he's got a fair bit of variance in how he'd do something about New York. Baiting Revelation into a duel while doing his best impression of an overeager fledgling, because he's heard other ancient Kindred sometimes do that and it sounds amusing, casting long-range Dominate commands next time Revelation or whoever in her circle decides to do a stream, sending an army to New York and just going back to whatever ancient Greek hobby he's spending his night perfecting, or maybe just throwing dosh at Pentex. He even could just talk to Revelation, be a depressed, bored old man in her vicinity until she surrenders. Got a preference for how things go?

>>97521494
Princess Charming listens intently to all the wisdom the Taxiarch imparts her, is still unsure about Thaumaturgy, but then when the final question comes, she becomes very very bitter, the color of her aura starts to match Venus in Furs' own aura when she sees Revelation.

The girl needs to take some time to elaborate the answer, then speaks resolutely:
"Venus was never able to wrangle the idea of Revelation she had in her own mind, let alone the real thing.

Venus will kick me out of her house if she comes to know I told you this, but I think Revelation did the stereotypical Toreador thing to Venus.

Venus is a victim, she was manipulated, seduced, abandoned, and now she looks at every news coming from New York with grief. Yes, grief Mamma grieves whenever she sees Revelation stoop to a new low!

Just kill Revelation and stop Revelation from hurting my companion's sire! A living Revelation makes her suffer more than a dead one.

Out with the tooth, out with the pain. Please."

She repeats Cato's anti-Carthage Latin slogan a third time, then thanks the Methuselah in Ancient Greek, with a little bow.
No more groveling.
>>97521568
>>97521619
My modest proposal to both: Michael the Taxiarch sends the army to NY, they join forces with Scholar's own army in this covert ops or "secret war" with the sort of results the hunters hoped to achieve, but with far better results.

Revelation, Papa Wolf, Risen Demon, Antisocial Butterfly, the Prince of NY, the Primogen Council all cease to exist.

A new Prince is appointed with a Primogen Council, they all are at least 175 years old, loyal to the European Ventrue and they are people whom Scholar can invest into.

Sounds good?

>>97521704
*with the sort of secrecy the hunters hoped to achieve, but with far better results.

Fuck this captcha btw

looking like the epstein files with all this spoiler text

Hmm. That’s odd. I’m having to feed A LOT more than normal. I know I’m low generation. But I thought the need for thicker blood came on with age. Anyone have experience with this?

>>97521424
Aye. Now, let's see what your sire had hiding in his library. Tell Lavender we're coming in.

Together, the Cat is feeling clingy.

>>97522721
That's outside my wheelhouse. Per habit, I don't feed off humans. Broke my killing fast for the first time in twenty six years with a stag last night.
Nice to have people to devour the meat. Honestly, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to do that semi-regularly.

>>97521234
Layers of bureaucracy is the default for most people, although just setting some barriers and blunt honesty will do it.

Also, glad you survived. Hope the hand feels better brother.

>>97521704
She receives one (1) more approving nod, both at the assessment she provides, as it's fairly critical of Venus and therefore a bold move, and at the lack of groveling.

Michael concludes the interrogation with that he's reached a verdict, and that unless the New Carthage is handled by somebody else, or other complications arise, within two weeks Venus will receive a (sort-of, as it'll be made on a still living's vampire face) death mask of Revelation, to be kept as a reminder of New York's Carthage moment and its origin point. He grants Princess Charming freedom to leave, and advises her to steer clear of Tremere who break with their clan to work with the Sabbat or diabolists; not for reason of treachery to Camarilla, which is sure a sin but one you have to simply accept, to work with some particular specialists, but because extremely few Tremere who do those things would not do unholy things to her blood.

And yeah the two-army attack plan sounds great. Michael is not superbly up-to-date on modern affairs, but he understands the perils of just showing up in the middle of a major city and pulling 8-dot disciplines in full view of cameras and endless Kine. He'll spend a week or so corraling his forces and send them to Bridgeport and to some other towns near New York, to encircle it, prevent New Carthage's survivors from fleeing, and make sure there's an escape route in case hunters actually prove to be a major issue. Being an Artemis descendant, he's got quite the force despite being largely not a factor in Camarilla politics in Europe, so New York will get fairly hot. He's probably also going to drag other Ventrue, ones Princess Charming made a good impression on, into the assault and especially the post-cleansing cleanup and new appointments, because he really can't make himself care to handle those, and doesn't want the annoyance of the petty politics.

>>97522869
>Tell Lavender we're coming in.
Made him aware! Also told him that I told you that he's appreciative of hags. He's nettled.

>Together, the Cat is feeling clingy.
Cute. If we won't have anything else to do, like, I don't know, screaming at the Animkiig's face made of clouds or something, I'll come with and drag Lavender along, and the wards-and-seals sister. Generally that oath we mentioned should keep the defences from firing off, but just in case. Plus we could help you figure out how to, in general, not die horribly by way of protective ritual, and which books may try to bite your fingers off and stuff like that.

The wards-and-seals sister is a century and some spare change old, and her demeanor is actually kind of almost excessively warm and cozy with her siblings; it's this weird cross of a motherly attitude and that of an older, caring sister. She (relatively speaking, there's no winners among test subjects) won the lottery on bound spirits, as hers is a deeply caring, loving and nurturing one. It no doubt mourned the loss of the Croatan the most out of the spirits of the caern, and to it the Trems were a delight in their human years, and a 'I can fix them! I must, even, they're our misguided, lost babies!' sort of interest past their Embrace.

The library's really, really rich; there's a vast trove of information on a lot of subjects, not just caerns and such. Odds are that it'll become pretty obvious that the Trems literally can't see some stuff or process it too well, most notably the books kept in the section of the library that was their sire's personal study. Breaking this effect is not that difficult, it'll require keeping their attention on the subject until the information like 'hey, this BOOK EXISTS YOU IDIOT' actually registers in them. They'll otherwise just forget about it if it's brought to their attention, and they stop focusing on it even for a second.

I'm mothering, I'm serving cunt, I'm killing the slaves of the antediluvians and bitch I make that look fabulous

Quick recap of our time in Zurich.
I overheard Princess Charming having a weird conversation with mom:
Venus in Furs: "How much?"
Princess Charming: "Blue Fairy."
ViF: "I pronounce you woman and-"
PC: "No. A proper ceremony. Date TBA."
ViF: "You cover all expenses."
PC: "Done."
ViF: "Anything else?"
PC: "An individual session with each of the ladies of House Venus' Beast. In our new dungeon. From youngest to oldest."
ViF: "Even Scarlet?"
PC: "Especially Scarlet."
Whoa.

Blue Fairy danced with Princess Charming. Their first dance was almost the same as the one Venus did with Revelation in New York. Venus finally taught me what it is: it's paso doble, and the reason it looks like a fight to the death is... because it is, it's inspired by bullfighting.
4 mins in they switched to tango and finished with rumba. Venus went on teaching me stuff: tango is full of tension while rumba is slower and romantic, she says rumba is her favorite dancesport and the most challenging, and that I gotta work on my skills in music and dance. Princess Charming always followed Blue Fairy and stole the lead from her with their last move.

One of the banks held a box from Boy Toy that was never withdrawn. It's a very crude looking cardboard box with a Post-it that said: "For my youngest sister." The box was actually meant for Blue Fairy, but she wanted me to unbox it. The box had a contacts list inside.
This is the first time I saw people not wanting uncle The Devil Wears Me's designs. Is that even possible? Man, European fashion is built different. Fortunately it was just two bitches.
At least seven different people approached me just to pet my black jaguar coat's sleeve.
Also our cars finished crossing the Atlantic and half of Europe. I missed my ZR1X's V8 roaring behind my back.

I haven't posted in a few nights but I've been lurking while working on my newest sklatchta (the grey tabby espurr) I'm having a hard time getting the fur on it's head to look perfect. I'll post a picture once it's done.

>>97521704
Scholar accepts the deal on the condition that he be allowed to take all the bodies of both hunter and revelation's forces for study, any prisoners his forces take and also he gets to keep the various Pentex associated equipment and intel. The intel will be passed along to an ally for them to deal with, best not ask about the prisoners. (currently dealing with irl stuff so I'm not gonna be posting as often for a bit)

Oh this is so fucking weird.

>>97522721
There's lots of possible causes for something like that, actually! Curses, possession, deviant bloodline traits, or even age manifesting in a sudden burst of extra needs and wants, and not a steady slide. Ever pissed off any bloodmages? Or had recent brushes with the unexplainable?

>>97530400
I've heard some sort of a commotion upstairs. Did you guys accidentally activate one of the living armor suits, or something? That the weird thing?
Also stray question while I got you here, think it's a bad idea to advertise my services and products using pics of my and Lavender's pet project? It's mildly desecratory of the dead, at best. Shouldn't be too bad, theoretically. Maybe if I go just for pencil sketches of the project, even, so it's a step removed?

I ain't ever seen Princess Charming work so hard.
Venus is contacting everyone she can too, but our local Ventrue is a totally different animal: juggling calls on three phones, emailing on a PC and a tablet. In the middle of doing all that, she ripped the handbook I inherited from Boy Toy off my hands, flipped it for the first time and yelled at me saying it ain't a mere contacts list, but a "Doomsday Survival Handbook." I was like: "Huh?!"
I think only my Malk buddy Cope is faster without Celerity. I wondered what kept her going until I saw Blue Fairy stick her wrist in Princess Charming's mouth. Ah, so that was the secret ingredient~
Just how many people are invited to their wedding ceremony?
Little did Scarlet know she's assembling the next Camarilla leadership of New York so the transition is as smooth as kindredly possible...

Three hours later I was gonna sing to the dolls, but Princess Charming came to the new Dollhouse, towered over little Mercury Lamp and they started talking about, like, blood magic?
I think I felt the same way normies feel when they hear me talk about bands like Dragged into Sunlight or Esoctrilihum.
One of the two said "blood" one time too many and a human doll had a panic attack. Then another. Mercury Lamp turned on the emergency response system. House Venus rushed inside, uncle The Devil Wears Me with his impaired gait, our staff and House Scholar's...

Marconi Union's Weightless, scientifically designed against anxiety, played, and Kakophoni, the pile of shadows with purple eyes, came in and sang some long notes over the music.
It was heaven.

Mercury Lamp tugged on my sleeve, I knelt and she whispered: "Ever heard of the Daughters of Cacophony?"
I was like: "Kak... has daughters?! Ow!" Our doll making dolls kicked my shin. "A bloodline with an unique Discipline that lets people feel emotions by singing..."

The dolls calmed down. Assoluta was pleased.
Mama Venus told me: "Meet your new singing teacher."
She smiled.

>>97531400
I would like to know how much emotions we can instill in our little catatonic trauma survivors with Kakophoni's song and your Dementation.

>>97531414
Children exposed to the horrors on this side of the Masquerade at a tender age... Might it be that a supernatural problem requires a supernatural solution?
>>97523828
>>97530122
Man of Florida says his contacts informed him of an upcoming Concolation of monumental size, i.e. a grand gathering of high ranking werewolves of the Garou Nation. He is convinced it will take place on the 17th, under the new moon, which sounds rather urgent if they're not waiting for a full moon as usual.

He also mentioned increasingly frequent reports of Tzimisce and the monsters they're making, we think the Palatine might be making her move soon.
Surprise! The Second Battle of New York will be the mother of battle royales involving:

The joint forces of Michael the Taxiarch and Scholar, and more allies!
VS
The Palatine Voivodate!
VS
The East Coast Garou Nation Warclaws!
VS
The Intergovernmental Task Force on Extraordinary Counter-Terrorist Response!
VS
The Self-Defence Forces of Newest Carthage!
>within two weeks Venus will receive a (sort-of, as it'll be made on a still living's vampire face) death mask of Revelation, to be kept as a reminder of New York's Carthage moment and its origin point
Princess Charming told Venus, and the latter will absolutely love this gift.

>>97530665
I see no reason not to share photos of your arts and crafts, I've done it with my sklatka. Maybe just spoiler-tag it if it's graphic.

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[Montane Layover, Update 5] Pyrrhic Victories

Well this was humiliating
>Meant to spend the night doing some searching through the libraries of the (we really need an anonymous cognomen for your kin-group folks) Trems
>After the entrance rite, this immediately got side-tracked by what I initially worried was the cat's power going awry and locking things out of the periphery of our hosts
>It was actually much worse
>Spent about an hour trying to subtly point things to my hosts who were wonderfully helpful and definitely had left some things unmoved for decades
>Creepiest thing I've seen in a while, and I eventually got fed up and about when Stitch posted I accidentally hit one of the fancy sets of armour with one of these sets of paper
>It then proceeded to begin strangling me and got me by the arm. And it took several people to dismantle the thing as it refused to let go
>Very wonderful to be put in my place by a tin-bin, I suppose it is what I deserve getting stupid and underestimating it
>Following this humbling, spent the rest of the night doing the rounds, and finally got Stitch, the Librarian, and Half-Seeing-Eye to believe me by rolling up some of these pages and rapping Half-Seeing on the brow
>Perhaps I should be more blunt, regardless, the mystery deepens as the only reason I can imagine this mental block exists is the Sire (rest in piss) is an even bigger ass than I expected.
>Somehow, despite the Loups being nominally accepted as a detente, felt like I was being watched by a lot of unfriendly eyes on the walk back to the burrow.
>Feels like more things are watching from the Caern.

I suppose I should be glad I didn't get grappled by a real enemy like that. Bah.

>>97530665
Why not? The damned thing still makes my skin crawl. Might as well inflict it on others.

>>97528258
Looking forward to it.

>>97531662
Really? That's... Hm.

Knock knock boys and girls, a new bounty has been placed on the 'Primogen' of the Jersey Lasombra, as well as the current Arch-Bishop in Exile.
16,000,000 for either, but 50,000,000 for them together.

Photos required beside personal effects. Happy hunting.

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I think I've finished my espurr. Now other than auspex, what disciplines do you think I could learn and teach it? I'm still pretty new at being a kindred (ten years), and not a very low generation. Right now I only know the standard clan disciplines for a Tzimisce (auspex, vicissitude, animalism). I can read auras, shape flesh and bone, communicate with animals telepathically, and apparently summon cats (that one's new for me). One problem is there are no friendly kindred in my area outside my sire to learn from, so I'd probably need to go on a road trip with some jars of my special dirt.

>>97535826
Dude. I’m a koldun. Old Clan. There are literally rituals I need a vicissitude user for. Let’s bring our clan glory!

I'm starting to miss the joy of smoking crack with nergos in my domain
Even if it has no effect on my body it had certainly lifted my spirit
29 years feels like yesterday

>>97528066
"Sabbat could be here," he thought, 400 year old wine from his families vineyard coursing through his viens, dulling his merited fear of anti-tribu at night. "With a ZR1X V8 you can go anywhere you want."

>>97534381
Senior Inquisitor, it is impolite to insult the Camarilla in their own home. As to your reward, I suspect you have not been audited by the churches accounting department for these outrageous bounties you have placed on my kine? And you would like to keep it that way, hmm? It would be a shame to be excommunicated, and without the protection of the church, you might find our kine Much less forgiving, do you not agree? Were it not in our interests to keep the church under our control, we would not permit such indulgences without.. consequences.

>>97536165
I got that reference but I'm a she/her.

>>97531662
Ah. Of course the Palatine just can't stay out of this, as it's an opportunity to hurt us and maybe retake her positions in Bridgeport. Perhaps she was only temporarily in Florida, picking up reinforcements or something.
I suppose I ought to look into emergency preparations.

HA nice. Didn't want to drag Pallie into this, to not overstuff New York with my OCs, but if you're down, might as well. She certainly would be the sort to get involved in a clusterfuck like that to hit people with her unicorn, anyways.

Do they ever thank you, Neophytes, from saving you from their own mortality? Do they ever express gratitude for sparing them from death? Death is not the romantic thing we make it out to be, it is a cold, quiet gasp, followed by an emptiness to vast to comprehend, a nothingness so profound you no longer exist to perceive it. One moment you are alive, thriving, growing, the next you are old, decrepid, still.. Would not anyone prefer to be kine did they know the harsh truth, that we are but dust?

>>97536228
Do they thank you, for bringing order to the underworld, for establishing laws against murder of our kind and enforcing them through the pimogen and the justicars? Do they ever thank us for keeping our numbers in check and controlling our carnal lust for blood so that we do not reveal ourselves and perish as a race? They say we are the callous masters of fate, coldheartedly moving chess pieces on a board while we struggle for power, but were it not for those games, who would provide our kind with the herd they may subtly feed upon, without our wealth and power, who would protect them from the fears and superstitions of modern man? No Respect, No Respect at All!

>>97536024
I don't know much about koldunism, I've heard of it before but the specifics escape me. Isn't there a bit of a schism between old clan and new clan? I'm a bit skittish of stranger danger, I don't want to end up getting eaten.

>>97532050
Ah, I mean, our problem specifically is that the people the thing was made of may haunt us. I suppose if H0T says it's fine, it's fine, I just really don't want to be haunted. Again.
I'll find a good pic or two in our archives and send it sometime soon.

>>97532258
>armour woes
Well, hey, now you at least know exactly how scary the tincans are, and against what sort of a threat you can rely on them! Which is, frankly, not so bad. Even if you got strangled a little for your troubles.

>Stitch
You hear that foul cackling? That's a girl who'll be calling herself 'Lilo' for the next couple weeks until she gets bored of it. You wound me, guest, you wound me.

>(we really need an anonymous cognomen for your kin-group folks)
Caernites? Circle of the Rock Circle, otherwise known as the Rock Circle Circle? I'm trying really hard to not go for fart-huffy Latin here, hope you appreciate it.

The Nossies are down here raiding my fridge for drinks, and they're suggesting something with 'Pandemonium' as the root, since that's what they call their own caern-related shit, the Alaskan stuff they can't shut up about, but I don't like even joking about demonology, we have it bad eonugh here without literally Satan being involved.

>>97536235
Should we fear death! Yes! YES I say! For death is the cessation of life, and is not life beautiful? Even in life's pale shadow, it is preferable to live, than to succumb! Death is not joyous and life is not wasted! CLING to life, cling to it with all your might, for it contains all that is beautiful, and when it is gone, it is gone forever.

>>97535826
Oh my gosh this is outrageously adorable. I am going to extort my siblings for dosh to commission one of those once you refine the process.

>>97532258
>>97536239
Anchorite/Anchoress could be okay as a term for one of us. Elicits ship imagery to manifest before the reader's eyes, which is good since we have nothing to do with the sea, and don't want people to pry successfully. for the group and group assets. It means 'religious recluse', typically used to talk about Christians, and 'Chantry' is a Christian term. We, basically, are a reclusive, rogue chantry. So, maybe it fits?

Then there's 'Stylite', which is talking about Greek hermits who sat on fucking pillars for some reason. We're basically doing that but with a holy hill full of esoteric power, so, that kinda fits and won't make us sound like we're sailors.

Also, FYI, >>97536239 is freaking the fuck ouuuuuut about the mental block, and is drawing reminders on his arms now. I don't even need to go down there to check, or clairvoyant this up, I can just tell.

>>97531400
>In the middle of doing all that, she ripped the handbook I inherited from Boy Toy off my hands, flipped it for the first time and yelled at me saying it ain't a mere contacts list, but a "Doomsday Survival Handbook." I was like: "Huh?!"
I'm putting together a team...

>>97537074
More like Queen Charming.

>>97537078
I'm getting there, but I'm not married yet.

Listen up leeches, Papa Wolf's coming with us. We're not asking. Any tick we meet in our way, it turns to dust.

>>97537094
Cool username. BTW, is the rest of your tribe this funny?

>>97537094
I heard this story before.
>>97537104
You have no idea.

>>97536173
I'm just the messenger and I'm not here from the church
Face it, the Lasombra have made enough enemies among the creatures od the night, their rivals are willing to pay to recup the debts they incurred
Problem with that lik? Make better friends

>>97536264
Can do, I look forward to it!

>>97537094
>>97537111
Who keeps giving werewolves login credentials? I thought this was supposed to be a secure website.

Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit
Where did Princess Charming find that Prince candidate
Hnnnnng I wanna spoiler it so bad

>>97537563
No spoilers! We have to thank the late Boy Toy, this was already going to be a very high profile government but he provided us with the cherry on the cake. Our wedding cake, that is.
Anyway, I need you to come to the dungeon and do your worst... to me. I think I've earned it, haven't I?

>>97537563
>>97537588
No fucking way. The absolute madman.

>>97537588
Are you playing kingmaker without me? That's cute.

>>97536228
>>97536235
>>97536240
Oh stop with the self-congratulations. The clock doesn't move, but that doesn't free it from breaking, or from dysfunction.
The moment you start with that you set yourself up for a Greek Tragedy ending.

>>97536239
Honestly, I got 'Stich' from Mèo. From some webcomic a few years back involving... Felts? Felt? Can't quite recall the specifics but it tickled her.

And I doubt it's devils. More like... Something akin to the Animkiig. Perhaps not peers. But cut from the same cloth as it were. Definitely nothing of the black spheres, I have the misfortune of knowing how that actually looks.

We'll keep our eyes out for you, regardless. Stitch.

>>97536264
Anchorites it is.
Also, considering the Tremere antics over by the Great Lakes I have half a mind to classify you all as 'basically orthodox' in compare to some of the treachery and politics I got wind of.

>I don't even need to go down there to check, or clairvoyant this up, I can just tell.
Understandable. Getting hit with dementation type things is disconcerting. If I can get some red string and one of you tonight I can do a full run across the house to try and find all instances of things your sire decided you just shouldn't see.

>>97537094
Hunting Ronin with declarations like that? Wyrmcomer ass.

I gave Princess Charming what she wanted: being ravished by my Beast.
The other ladies of House Venus cornered me and did a little struggle session to arouse it, then the Beast went loose on a eager Princess Charming in chains.
She loved the interplay of sex and violence, the whipping, the use of Obtenebration as a strap-on, the fangs in her neck.
I didn't, I was just a spectator, a prisoner inside this corpse. It's like... I was the one being ravished? Was that her plan all along?
It was my first time giving in to the Beast, I'm a very confused fledgling girl right now.

>>97539819
Reject this dualism. There is only one of you, you wanted to do all of those things. Why are you running? Ride the Wave, fledgling. Be free.

>>97540027
Can I control myself while I frenzy? Isn't that a contradiction?

>>97539819
Any tzimisce up for a bit of fun? We have a garou chained up in our basement and want to sew his asshole shut until his guts explode and he dies of sepsis. Bring a VHS camcorder and we'll hook you up with the livestream. Can't wait till all his lupine buddies watch him drown in his own shit.

>>97540062
Some people have some sort of problem killing mortals. I go through about two or three a week. I didn't become a vampire to make friends.

>>97540051
There is no division between yourself and the Beast without ego. That is in some ways a useful lie.
You are how you treat it.

Repress it? It will eventually devour EVERYTHING and you will functionally die.
Allow it to control you? Not much better, you become a slave to your baser instincts.
You'd best get to know yourself. And master that secret syllable of God.

>>97540062
>>97540068
Pathetic before the bite, pathetic after.

>>97540051
Fear is how the Beast tricks you into thinking like that. Stop running, give it the pleasure it seeks. Who do you think taught the Beast to use Obtenebration like you do? The only contradiction is believing the Beast is someone else.

>>97540068
What could be more useless than being worshiped by some preening teenager who shops at hot topic. I get it, you only like to feed on virgins. Same here, I just don't see any point in feeding on em more than once.

First Kiss, Last Goodbye.

>>97540087
I've got a van full of shovelheads staked in torpor in the back of my Production Crew van. I'm going to let them loose in skid row after dark, should get some good footage of them terrorizing the local homeless population. If I get enough subscribers to my channel I'll uncensor the blood and gore for my premium viewers.

>>9754012
Me and Cherry wrapped our lambo around a street pole last night. Cherry had been drinking and I'd been feeding on her. Cherry is a supermodel, she dresses sharp and she is so freaking hot. Watching her lay there dying I thought, why not? Embraced her on the spot. We've been having fun ever since. Sometimes i gotta show her whos boss every now and again, but she'll get used to it.

>>97540051
Imagining the Beast as something or someone totally other is like mistaking a rope for a snake under a dim light. Under the bright light of knowledge, the truth is unveiled, and the fear is gone.

>>97540152
I tell you, my boy perry hooked me up with some primo Armani Coutre'', and man do I look slick. Had to wash the blood out of the suit, nothing a little lemon juice couldn't handle. Shame about what happened to Perry.

>>97540221
Whats up with you squares?
Pull that stick out of your butts

>>97540062
I will not sully my hands or profession with the likes of you

>>97540152
Ah, shit, I gotta go. Cherry's having another crying fit over that bag lady we hit the other day. Later Dweebs.

Great, a schizophrenic Sabbat is in the forum talking to himself now.

>>97540062
Hard pass.

Rough draft, not finalized, open to edits: Scholar's forces have joined the battle, reports of strange creatures emerging from shadows and dragging combatants, both hunters and revelation's followers, into the shadows they emerged from if they don't outright kill them. Revelation starts to hear more and more screams approaching her bunker/command center. Papa Wolf goes out to confront the intruder and immediately gets grabbed and beaten unconscious by a team purpose created to capture him. He will be delivered to the wolves as requested by a representative of theirs. The lights begin to cut out until only the room where Revelation and her most trusted are held up remains lit. The primogen council and the prince that supported Revelation find their compound raided in a lightning strike by advanced combat teams, all members either staked or killed.
Things look grim for Revelation....

>>97540910
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Cr4zy, huh?

D0n't fuck w1th th3 c0mmun1ty l1cks.

>>97541485
fuckin dont masturbate that shit just send it and get him killed creep-boy
and quit with the L34TSP34Q its borderline unrecognizable

>>97521425
Back in 1991, one of their pharmaceuticals caised a "thinning of the blood" scare by stealing the "animating qualia of the blood of the bay area population."
Thst is; For weeks, in Colma and much of San Francisco, we couldn't sustain ourselves on the locals. And that was a pharmaceutical arm of Pentex, bush league.

The worst part of the Sabbat is that I agree with 75% of their world-view. Kindred SHOULD be in charge and in the open. The world would benefit greatly if someone with several centuries or even millennia of wisdom were in charge, rather than someone with 50-60 years of experience. It's the cannibal fifty-something diablerist hooligans that ruin it though. All of the power but none of the wisdom, trying to be the next Lestat, pissing blood and killing humans indiscriminately.

I want to strangle a dead loser. This shit is bordering on 'we embraced them wrong as a joke' nonsense.

"Oooooh Look at my magic fork and wall-mounted singing bass I stole from some Tzim elder owowowo only I get to see it."

Should have pulled the fangs out of that damn skull and made them into boot ornaments.

>>97541663
The world requires change to thrive.
It would be nice to live in a world we can be a part of directly, but you only need to look at our history to see too many elders eating their kids.
Same with normal people history, except we have a collective sword of cannibalism hanging over our heads and no expiration date.

Kind of forces us to have restraint.

>>97541619
Huh. That's another theory to add to the pile. I've got like- a dozen for that particular thing. Quieas, CIA, Eco-Terrorists, archaeological artifact driving people mad...
Any sites worthy of seeing down in Cali besides the obvious?

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>>97536213
While I am glad that we no longer have to deal with the Palantine here, it is unfortunate that we were unable to destroy her. I wish I could offer the consolation prize of the Multihorn - I witnessed Prince Vigo and Baron Christopher destroy the monster with my own eyes - but with its creator still at large it's only a matter of time until she creates another. It seems things will become quite chaotic up there soon.

>>97537094
Your weakness is silver,fent and bathing

>>97541752
May I interest you in taking another shot at this hated arch nemesis?
Evidently, New York City will soon become the stage of a massive, free-for-all fight between multiple factions, including the Palatine's own, so feel free to join the fray and get your revenge!

>>97537869
>From some webcomic a few years back involving... Felts? Felt? Can't quite recall the specifics but it tickled her.
HJGFJGH THIS IS GREAT

>"Oooooh Look at my magic fork and wall-mounted singing bass I stole from some Tzim elder owowowo only I get to see it."
Y'know, I did actually bump into the inexplicably invisible chair in the second floor's ballroom like fifty times, all in all, now that I can actually remember it somewhat. I've scryed for it just now, and it is literally just a chair. Not even made of people or anything, or some sort of evil wood.
Think there's a chance you can't see some things, too, and we'll need Meo to Malk her way into discovering them for us?

>>97540910
>Great, a schizophrenic Sabbat is in the forum talking to himself now.
The most in-character thing somebody from Sabbat can possibly do.

>>97541663
>Kindred SHOULD be in charge and in the open.
Ehhh, should be? Do you WANT Elder Dickweedius, Honored Be His Name, Five Steps Removed from Caine, to have no trouble hiring literally thousands of Kine servants to go grab you, if he feels like it? Like, that's the issue I have, on top of me being able to go about in the open, all sorts of fucking fossils who want me dead will be able to do the same. And that's just us! I don't want to know what else is going about in the night all-quiet, and will feel bold enough to go loud, if we start going loud.

>>97543813
I concede, but that alone is evidence that the older and wiser kindred simply know better than me, lol.

>>97543813
>HJGFJGH THIS IS GREAT
Is this something I should be aware of. . . ?

>Think there's a chance you can't see some things, too, and we'll need Meo to Malk her way into discovering them for us?
Of course she can see plenty of things I can't. Rarely is it good and helpful.
I'll ask, and if she's willing we can do the rounds tonight. Supposing she's up for it, the rite really took it out of her and she's been slow to recuperate. Slower, anyways.

Anything you suspect might be hiding?