"Sons vs Paladins" EditionArchives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>97466587
>>97472682>Outside of MAYBE the ultimate god build, how do all of these not just instantly lose?You are underestimating the power of Tok! >Velotrex can transform into a dragon and cast a spell that kills all non-Dragons on an entire battlefield. He can also counterspell any spells and reduce any magical and non-magical items into nothing.>Mega Harem Tok has the power set of Goku, Alex Mercer, a legendary DnD druid, Aiz Oal Gown, Yujiro Hanma, Naruto, a Dracthyr Evoker, and he has Sentry's regeneration.>Time Tok can literally stop, rewind, and control time.>Tanya Gol can turn into a ghost, which is immune to physical and magical attacks, while she makes all enemies within 5 feet of her bleed to death.>Hentai Goddess Tok is literally a goddess with her own afterlife, allowing her to resurrect dead Toks and herself.>Jump Tok has shit tons of powers, among them the skill set of a 20th level DnD Druid and a 20th level Pathfinder Sorcerer, and he has 3 of the infinity stones (Power, Mind and Reality). >Lyliette has unlimited reality warping powers within her realm, and she can open portals to her realm while other Toks thrown in sons into her portals>Warlock Tok is literally unkillable and can become possessed by an Eldritch deity to wield a fragment of her limitless power>Eled-nil is a Dragon Valar, a corrupted fucking immortal spirit angel who warps reality by song>Harem Tok is immortal and can turn into a big ass dragon with the physical abilities of a Kryptonian, a fire bender, and an ice mage.>Gwenyth Cox can teleport people into space or an active volcano>Gwen Gilmore cannot be harmed and can tell people to kill themselves and they will do so>Eldritch Whorror Tok is an actual eldritch horror entity>LuuKhan is a master of Wuju style, which makes him powerful enough to defeat superhuman god warriors and single-handedly wipe out entire armies by himself>Imitasia is nigh indestructible and can copy the entire powerset of a person by touch
>>97473051>"Sons vs Paladins" EditionThat entire fight is dumb and has no satisfying answer.This should be settled by the waifus having a dancing contest instead.
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>>97473082I really hope this is not 34 pages long...
>>97473065Araith sweeps.
>>97473060Literally all of those can be countered by a Radiant build, its not even very difficult. You dont even need to have dawn/beseech light for it.but also> can teleport people into a volcano>can fight entire armiesI feel like you are REALLY not understanding what powerlevel entropist or radiant operate at. "I teleported a son into outer space! I win!". Is this why you thought that nuke would work?
>>97473090You can tell its not. Its 34 sections long. But look at the first three sections for example, theyre all on one page. If im reading it right its going to be 22 pages.
>>97473090The 1st page we have already combines the 1, 2 and 3.
>>97473094Augustus is so lucky...
>>97473065>waifus dance on stage while anons are furiously masturbaiting in the crowdWould you let your waifu participate?
>>97473094who?
>>97472933Blame the author.
>>97473143Thank the author, you mean. This shit is a godsend (heh) for versus autism.
>>97473095>Literally all of those can be countered by a Radiant buildLiar! What the fuck are you gonna do when Time Tok pauses time and kills your ass?>I feel like you are REALLY not understanding what powerlevel entropist or radiant operate atNo, it is you who do not understand what power level Toks operates at. You think Wuju style is weak, when it makes you more powerful than divine god warriors aka the Acended, who stole their powers from a celestial space dragon who forged entire galaxies and universes. >>97473104That's good to hear, I might make an image build for it if it's not super long and Tankista has better art then the pictures in the WIP
>>97473095>Literally all of those can be countered by a Radiant buildJust tell me how you would counter Mega Harem Tok, I'm really curious>Mega Harem Tok has the power set of Goku, Alex Mercer, a legendary DnD druid, Aiz Oal Gown, Yujiro Hanma, Naruto, a Dracthyr Evoker, and he has Sentry's regeneration.
>>97473157>What the fuck are you gonna do when Time Tok pauses time and kills your ass?Ignore it, because Paladins can do that in radiant. You would know that if you read the cyoa. The cyoa is just 200 different hatebear abilities stapled onto a soul nuke. Picrelated is the best representation of the average radiant build.
>>97473179Then Time Tok travels back in time and saves the life of the Paladin before he dies and becomes a paladin and then proceeds to hand him over to a Tok with biomancer abilities who then turn him into a dumb slutty bimbo who is unworthy of becoming a Paladin.
>>97473212>muh time tokIsn't that the exact thing you tried in Outer Reincarnation and lost anyway?
>>97472933>>97473143>EAsimps aren't having autistic meltdowns over these commentsI dont even recognize this thread anymore
>>97473177Oh, that one is literally trivial. >EquilibriumThe paladin is now as strong/fast/durable as you (can also take apotheosis + reinforcement and simply become stronger than you by infinitely stacking buffs)>Magic immunity + magic reflectionHe is now immune to your magic, all of it. Also anything you DO cast on him (magic or "magic like abilities) gets reflected back onto you. >immunityImmune to any and all poisons. Also paladins are just naturally immune to fleshwarping effects and whatever else have you. >SilenceHe now stops you using any magic or magic like abilities>Meteoric hammer/scourging flame + pure smiteHe now prevents you from regenerating (or hits you so hard there will be nothing left to regenerate. Also with pure smite his attack ignores any resistances and immunities you might have, just for style points. Bonus points:>binding duelYou cant run away, and when you lose the duel your soul gets killed, preventing any philacteries or resurrection by any means. The Paladin is then going to have Dawn wish you back to life (which she can do despite it being literally impossible) and kill you all over. >>97473212Paladins dont die to become Paladins, its not stated anywhere in the cyoa and contradictory to how many things work. (they can refuse service or retire and so on). Their deaths are also "fixed points in time" (as foreseen by an omnipotent deity), which can't be changed, meaning you literally couldn't travel back in time to prevent them from becoming paladins in the first place per destined death rules. Once the Paladin exists, you can't make them not exist, since that would erase their death from happening, and God knows their death is going to happen and how and made sure it cant be changed. This is also why theyre immune to all "instant kill" effects like power word kill. Also: fun fact, a paladin with the time immunity would also simply not be affected by you travelling back in time to change the past. No paradoxes.
Paladins are gay.
>>97473240The original simps went back to their promised land.
>>97473223that wouldnt be surprising given tok is really bad at plans or strategy of any kind
>>97473255Giga Super Mega Harem Tok would plap this Anon to death and penetrate through his immunity aura.
Isnt there a paladin thing that does more damage the more evil you are? Toks just fucked against that isnt he?
>>97473290Giga super mega deluxe triple extra harem tok featuring dante from the devil may cry series forgot that he took the "cock-cage sissy" drawback and is now perpetually locked in chastity and can only cum from being sodomized.
>>97473294Tok isn't evil he's actually pure of heart. Paladins are useless against him.
>Giga Super Mega Harem TokGiga Super Mega Harem Tok vs Super Son God Super Son. Who wins?
>>97473312Tok if he has access to Ascended Harem Grade 2 or higher. Otherwise, it's a clean plap.
>>97473240That was never a popular part of the cyoa.
>>97473312the TRUE face of Entropistfags...
>>97473255>The paladin is now as strong/fast/durable as you (can also take apotheosis + reinforcement and simply become stronger than you by infinitely stacking buffs)That is fine, I am still superior to him because I have the fighting experiance of Goku and Yujiro Hanma>He is now immune to your magic, all of it. Also anything you DO cast on him (magic or "magic like abilities) gets reflected back onto you.That is fine I will beat him in a fist fight>He now stops you using any magic or magic like abilitiesThat is fine, I have Sentry's regeneration, which is not magic, it's a mutation.>He now prevents you from regenerating (or hits you so hard there will be nothing left to regenerate.Sentry's regeneration is a virtually limitless regenerative healing factor, allowing him to recover from any physical injury, including complete molecular dispersal. So in the end Mega Harem Tok will win because of his regen.>>97473179Also, if the paladins' main power comes from disabling other people's powers, then they can NEVER win against the League of Toks. Because we have Symbiote Tok and he has the power to imbue an unlimited amount of people with immunity to having their powers fucked with, pic realted
>>97473326....
>>97473223Which is why tok doesn't bring him up. That tok is busy on the cuck chair.
>>97473345Does not and can never exist per Ultimate God RAW.
>>97473345>fighting experiance of Goku and Yujiro HanmaLiterally impossible to beat the latter if you know Baki lore. Goku's not that impressive until you realize his upbeat fighting style will let him never lose fighting spirit. Combined with limitless regeneration even from existence erasure and Mega Harem Tok will literally never lose. Also, we shouldn't forget that Tok in general is a massive sadomasochist, so even if you reduced him to paste for a billion years he'd keep getting off to it.
>>97473355All toks have either trooned out or are busy in the cuck chair. Its the one multiversal constant.
>>97473350Ellipses all you want, out of all the builds I read, only one ever really did anything with the idea.
>>97473370We have already been over that even Aromage debunked your vile, disingenuous interpretation of her rules.
>>97473385Either this Anon is Arobitch or it's a slut from her discord come to e-simp for his queen.Please take Aro's cock out of your mouth, Anon.
>>97473373Yes, but only in OR we have a face and name for tok's BVLL that we can root for
>>97473370>>97473385To reiterate. An alternate universe version of you is not you. The text refers to YOU specifically. Like you cannot run into YOURSELF even if you are a Ultimate Time God, you will never run into past unpowered YOU or future time god YOU. But you can meet an alternative universe version of you, which is not YOU.
>>97473345>I am still superior to him because I have the fighting experiance of Goku and Yujiro HanmaBad news, he now also has the fighting "experiance" of Goku and Yujiro Hanma.>That is fine I will beat him in a fist fightBad news, hes immune to nonmagical attacks and regenerates.>Sentry's regeneration is a virtually limitless regenerative healing factorBad news, scourging flame prevents any regeneration. This will include Sentry's mutation.
>>97473345>Pussadins BTFO'd by Tok
>>97473385The RAW says that only one (You) exists at a time. It doesn't matter what she says outside of the text when her CYOA says there's only one of you. She's reworking the only argument against this power, specifically so it doesn't break the rules she wrote.
>>97473432I wonder who typed this post...
>>97473428Bad news Mega Harem Tok is immune to your power negation and his powers cannot be stolen or copied, because Symbiote Tok made him immune to that >>97473345
>>97473377I just realized you're esl dosent even know what we're talking about.
>>97473458Don't bully newfags.
>>97473448No one is stealing or copying your powers, your regeneration remains - you simply cant regenerate from the damage caused. You still have the ability, it just wont help you. Also, you should really learn to read: The protections bestowed are not absolute, while the "negations" are.
>>97473370yes, which means the other Toks are fake, weak, pathetically mortal versions.
>>97473439See >>97473409
>>97473409All versions of (you) are (you) dipshit.
>>97473458>you're esl dosent....
>>97473496but not the TRUE (You), the others are just samefag copies.
>>97473090The colours anon
>>97473501(you) IS the true (you). Thats what (you) means.
>tok needs to bring in multiple versions of himself to win against singular (1) buildskek just wait until Augustus becomes a multi-versal entity and cucks all toks
>>97473512So if there is a (You) that is a rapist pedophile, then all versions of (You) are?
>>97473518give me the QRD and ill make it so
>>97473477>No one is stealing or copying your powers, your regeneration remains - you simply cant regenerate from the damage caused. You still have the ability, it just wont help you.nta, but its clearly counts as a suppression
>they're obsessing over tok againfor fuck sake
>>97473524Suppression would be removing a telekinetic's ability to move shit, a rock that simply cant be moved isnt suppressing telekinesis.
>>97473477>No one is stealing or copying your powersReally? You gonna fucking lie?>Bad news, he now also has the fighting "experiance" of Goku and Yujiro Hanma.>The paladin is now as strong/fast/durable as you>your regeneration remains - you simply cant regenerate from the damage caused.Nope, any negation or supression of Mega Harem Tok's power is completely negated by Singularity.What will a Paladin do when he faces Mega Harem Tok who's power cannot be weakened, suppressed, negated, copied, stolen, mimiced, controled, sealed ect. and has the power set of Goku, Alex Mercer, a legendary DnD druid, Aiz Oal Gown, Yujiro Hanma, Naruto, a Dracthyr Evoker, and he has Sentry's regeneration.Literally nothing, he will do nothing. Just like all the other paladins because their power lies in nullyfing the powers of others and when they face a foe who is immune to their powers they are gonna get spanked so hard that they regret taking all those sacred vowes
>>97473528You should join them. They're obviously having fun. It keeps the thread bumped so I couldn't care less.
>>97473523basic gist>outer reincarnation>outer tide but no rules except true love goes to whoever gets waifu/husbando first>tok waifus araith but doesnt use true love>augustus uses true love and cucks tok>thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/85185481/#q85187898>>97473518>Paarthurnax: Help me Mega Harem Tok, this is pre-Everlasting Augustus I'm up against....
>>97473481It's a "fundamental quality inherent to your soul" (exact words) that transcends the meta-narrative and can't be circumvented or bypassed. It is explicitly a multiversal constant. This isn't even the only CYOA on the list that has anti-samefagging clauses.
>>97473540>let's keep the author drama going for muh bumpyou should go the fuck back too
>>97473536it is interference with regen. counts as suppression/negation
>>97473553Yes? I'm not forced to read posts at gunpoint. You can ignore discussions you have no interest in.The only grating thing about this thread is Anon fucking up the OP.
>>97473550>It's a "fundamental quality inherent to your soul" (exact words) that transcends the meta-narrative and can't be circumvented or bypassed. It is explicitly a multiversal constant. This isn't even the only CYOA on the list that has anti-samefagging clauses.Let's say you live in a multiverse with multiple versions of you. Do you think every single version of you in the multiverse shares 1 soul? Or do you think each version of you has its own soul? Yeah fucking thought so, you disingenuous rule bending pig
>>97470474>This reminds me, why isn't Spirit Conscript listed PCA's folder allsyncAnon?All I have for Spirit Conscript are pdfs and looking through them I don't see an author name. If you don't fucking sign your work it gets shoved into a theme/genre folder, which happens more often than not. Now that you've told me who made it I'll move it into his folder. Thank you for that....
>>97473538>tok cant readnot surprising.No-one is copying your powers, the paladin is not becoming goku or whatever gay DND character you tagged onto him, the paladin simply has a power that means he is at all times as strong as the strongest thing hes fighting. So he is. >negation or supression of Mega Harem Tok's power is completely negated by Singularity. >>97473536Its neither of those things. You have the same regeneration you always had, you just cant regenerate the damage you take. >What will a Paladin do when he faces Mega Harem Tok who's power cannot be weakened, suppressed, negated, copied, stolen, mimiced, controled, sealed ect. and has the power set of Goku, Alex Mercer, a legendary DnD druid, Aiz Oal Gown, Yujiro Hanma, Naruto, a Dracthyr Evoker, and he has Sentry's regeneration.Kill him, rather easily. Either with the options listed or various other options.
>>97473591pca also made radiant, but you attributed it to Rake for some reason
>>97473592>Its neither of those things. You have the same regeneration you always had, you just cant regenerate the damage you take.you can, or its suppression of power
>>97473592I want everyone to look at this. This is the average IQ of Radiant Paladins.
>>97473615A rock that is too heavy for you to lift isnt a suppression of your power to lift things. A metal that is too durable for you to punch through isnt a suppression of your ability to punch things. Neither is this.
>>97473602because of this. now i have no idea where it should go as the idiot didn't sign it that I can see.
>>97473637Move it to Themes until the author manifest himself?
>>97473540We don't really need the pph and it kills space for the discussion of cyoa's
>>97473635and regen prevention is never of such thingslook, i understand you don't like tok, but be objective, singularity clearly made for such cases
>>97473651>it kills space for the discussion of cyoa'sWhat conversation? It's been Tok and Son vs Paladin all thread.
>>97473635Read the rules retard, pic realted>>97473653He clearly suffers from Tok derangment syndrome, one such as him cannot be reasoned with
>>97473659Yes and if they weren't there things would need nicerYou can't see the tree's until after you remove the garbage pile blotting the landscape
>>97473653>and regen prevention is never of such thingsSure it is. Damage that cant be regenerated is no different to a material you cannot punch through.
>>97473672I think that without them, the thread would be empty. Being slower isn't a bad thing, but if they're bumping an OC-less thread while we do something productive, why should we care? Interacting with Tok is retarded, as we all know. The Son vs Paladin debate is a rerun of a rerun, as you also know. The sole benefit of this situation is the bumping.
>>97473680>Sure it is. Damage that cant be regenerated is no different to a material you cannot punch through.no, it isnt. singularity work here
>>97473680It does not say the damage cannot be regenerated, it says you can prevent him from healing
>>97473694>no, it isnLiterally the same thing. >>97473698Yes, that you prevent the damage from being healed (ergo: "damage that cannot be healed"), not that whatever healing powers the individual has are removed or diminished.
>>97473704>Literally the same thing.Literally the different thing.
>Losing to Toksasuga Radiussies
>>97473648Might be the best thing to do. Did PCA say he made it or did people just guess that he made it? I'll also look and see if Rake signs his stuff because if he does than this probably isn't his.
>>97473718People guessed it, probably based on the Spirit Conscript precedent.
>>97473626I am here to bear witness. He is a retard and I'm certain is just shitposting.
>>97473711Go on. Explain why a material that cannot be punched through isnt suppression but damage that cannot be healed is.
>>97473716Never stood a chance.Nope. Can't beat the Tok.
>>97473742>>97473716>being this obvious
>>97473726That would seem to be a higher probability that Rake did make it. Maybe I can get in contact with rake on reddit? I'll look into it. I can also see if Rake has uploaded only his own cyoas to imgchest.
>>97473745Good luck with your quest.
>all this for a power that wont even work
>>97473731The entire Radiant CYOA is one big shitpost. No one in their right mind would agree to those vows in exchange for the modicum of power you get
>>97473740if you have power to punch through material of any durability, its clearly suppressionif you have regen of any wound power, its also suppression
>>97473692I would rather a puddle of clear water then an ocean of filth.Even a few scant builds and in-jokes would be better then a discussion centered on tok and retarded power scalingAlso, tg is a very slow board. Threads can go for hours at a time without being bumpedAlso Also, the nonsense doesn't just cover some of the real posting, it separates and demotivates anons. There may be any number of meaningful things I and others missed in the noiseI suppose I should be writing a never ever right now, but it hurts to check on the thread after a day and see things like this
>>97473718Rake said from /tg/ which he usually doesn't for things he madeHe also seems very different in personality then radiantanonAlso I think I remember him saying it but I can't remember any searchable phrases
>Is Living God>Exists>WinsIt's that easy.
>>97473767>its clearly suppressionBut it isnt. You arent made any weaker. The material is simply durable enough to not be punched through.
>>97473823>Living GodWho would win a Living God or an Ultimate God?
>>97473765I got reality warping out of it, I'd definetly go for it.
>>97473833>But it isntBut it is regen cannot be suppressed
>>97473589>Let's say you live in a multiverse with multiple versions of you. Do you think every single version of you in the multiverse shares 1 soul? Or do you think each version of you has its own soul? Yeah fucking thought so, you disingenuous rule bending pigYes, I would say that they all do, because all those worlds would be the work of the same omnipotent God whose (You)s all exist in the same shared afterlife as one person with all their memories. This also solves the teleporter problem. Oh look at that, you're talking about the CYOA where you're the child of an omniversal creator god. Since this discussion does not believe in a No Limits Fallacy, yes, every blanket statement about the omniverse, multiverse, supreme being, et cetera is true for its purposes even if they're contradictory, therefore Skai has dominion over every multiverse and omniverse in this argument and Tok's one of a kind soul is her child.But enough about metaphysics, let's talk pataphysics. Perpetuity is a pataphysical (narrative-related) power. Tok isn't writing about different characters responding to an event involving his builds, he's imagining a perfectly coordinated and cooperative hive mind that changes its actions based on out of universe statements. He's playing an MMORPG where he logs into different accounts and retcons their actions to survive, therefore, all Toks are the same Tok on a pataphysical level above the physical and metaphysical sheen. The pataphysical power of Perpetuance takes effect above metaphysics (souls) and physics (bodies), therefore it divides the existence of all Toks. There is only one Tok.
>>97473776Maybe you should leave this place for a little while? You can probably have a better time if you just skim the topic, even though we can't reduce the quantity of shitposters. I used to do it during the skubwar; a quick glance would determine whether I stayed or returned the following day (or the following week).Talking about inspiration! You should keep in mind the heights we've attained, even if the thread isn't at its finest right now. The end doesn't invalidate the journey. You should go archive diving about the old days - people are big revisionists here, so even things that seems obvious sometimes happens very differently. You might feel a little better when you see someone we used to hang out or something like JRPG Traitor finally releasing. And it's technically time away from the thread while still engaging with the medium. It's like taking notes to help your foundations or something!
>>97473837Only a Monad Ultimate God would match a Living God, but only because Living Gods are less interesting overall.
>>97473837Living, doy.
>>97473837Living god is the PCA one right? Them. Ultimate gods are really rather weak despite the name.
>>97473842Suppression would be if you still regenerated, but at a slower rate, or if you just had the regeneration turned off entirely as an extreme example.But thats where the details matter, its possible to have the regeneration work just fine but simply not be able to do anything. If you heal 1000HP/s and someone cuts your HP bar in half? You still heal that same amount, you still regenerate, but you are not healing that damage you took. Your regeneration is not suppressed, its simply not able to heal the damage applied to you.
>>97473899>Ultimate>Four higher gods exist>Who'll all die when a little girl gets out of her basement.>Can't even create an eternal afterlife.>Doesn't even have an eternal afterlife because of that girl.
>>97473910any interference is suppression
>>97473765They would if you include marika gooner fan art.
>>97473875>>97473897>>97473899Hmmm maybe I should make a Living God image build just to add it to the Tok council
Uh guys, I know this is a bit off topic but have you heard that moot was in the epstein files?Like actually?Like he spoke to and meet with jeffery epstein known political blackmailler and pedophile around the time /pol/ was made?This seems really quite bad
>>97473752>>97473795Yeah... so I tried to message pog_irl the person who's posted rakes stuff on reddit but reddits new chat thing won't let me chat with his account.... Rake does sign all his works so Radiant may very well not be his. Going to keep digging.
If there were parallel dimensions they would be completely different cosmologies. This idea of "omg me but im poptart morty" is the result of decades of bad scifi and reddit soience
>>97473945i guess he wasn't your little pog champ hehe
>>97473958LOL
>>97473916No. A bulletproof vest is not suppressing your gun.
>>97473752>>97473795Bit more info. Seems pog_irl said in the thread "Idk who the author is, they never said on the thread, so I couldn't attribute to anyone. I assume it's just a one-off, otherwise I'd have done so. It is new, it released maybe 1-2 days ago."So it probably is PCA. May just move it to Themed anyway until I know for sure. REALLY hate when people don't sign their work.
>>97473990but regen prevention is
>>97474009Max HP reduction does not suppress regeneration. "black HP" or whatever you want to call it does not suppress regeneration. Suppressing regeneration is only actively changing the regeneration ability itself.
>>97474018don't matter that mental gymnastic you could tryany interference will activate singularity
>>97473875>Living Gods are less interesting overall.Writing for Living God is infinitely better/ Still multiverse slop though.
>>97473925>Hmmm maybe I should make a Living God image build just to add it to the Tok council
>>97474026>any interference will activate singularity>that wall is interfering with my ability to walk, therefore I can walk through walls!lmao
>>97474048if you have power to walk through walls, yes
>>97473990>>97474009>>97474018Is a thing what it is? or what it does?How deep do the roots go into the groundMysterious
>>97474062No, not the power to walk through walls. The power to walk. Would a wall (that you obviously cannot walk through, it is a solid object). Count as suppresion of your ability to walk. Would zero gravity? Would floating in water? No? Weird. Your powers of walking are undiminished, they are simply of no help in this instance.
>>97474045Anon Tok wouldn't associate with this picture. You can guess at the glance this asian weeb is a cringe two incher that believes his PUREST NIPPON STEEL can help him win. He oozes negative charisma. Tok wouldn't be caught dead looking like that.
>>97474074if regen is not working for any reason, singularity activate
>>97474075
>>97474082The regen is active, it just doesent do anything.
>>97474084>it just doesent do anythingits suppression than
>>97474088No more than a brick wall suppresses your ability to walk.
>>97474093>No more than a brick wall suppresses your ability to walk.if you have power to walk through walls, yes
>>97474075True. It looks like a delusional phony that thinks taekwondo is a real martial art.
>>97474097No, not the power to walk through walls. The power to walk.Would a wall (that you obviously cannot walk through, it is a solid object). Count as suppresion of your ability to walk. Would zero gravity? Would floating in water? No? Weird. Your powers of walking are undiminished, they are simply of no help in this instance.
>>97473936But I thought moot was based?
>>97473051>no thread subjectNext time check your OP before and after you post it. I have made the same mistake but someone has to chastise you
>>97474116if regen is not working for any reason, singularity activate
>>97474117Sometimes people lie for personal gain
>>97474124
>>97474120The regen is active, it just doesent do anything.
>>97474127>The regen is active, it just doesent do anything.its suppression than
>>97474125
>>97474136No more than a brick wall suppresses your ability to walk.
>>97474142>No more than a brick wall suppresses your ability to walk.if you have power to walk through walls, yes
>>97474148No, not the power to walk through walls. The power to walk.Would a wall (that you obviously cannot walk through, it is a solid object). Count as suppresion of your ability to walk. Would zero gravity? Would floating in water? No? Weird. Your powers of walking are undiminished, they are simply of no help in this instance.
>>97474151if regen is not working for any reason, singularity activate
>>97474154The regen is active, it just doesent do anything.
>>97474158>The regen is active, it just doesent do anything.its suppression than
>>97474161No more than a brick wall suppresses your ability to walk.
>>97474164if you have power to walk through walls, yes
>>97474170No, not the power to walk through walls. The power to walk.Would a wall (that you obviously cannot walk through, it is a solid object). Count as suppresion of your ability to walk. Would zero gravity? Would floating in water? No? Weird. Your powers of walking are undiminished, they are simply of no help in this instance.
>>97474177if regen is not working for any reason, singularity activate
>>97474179The regen is active, it just doesent do anything.
>>97474198its suppression than
>>97474199You forgot the greentext.
>>97474205eh, twice already
>>97474213sloppy baka
>>97474038kek, good joke.
>>97474220:(
>>97474226there there
I feel quite worriedSomeone comfort me
>filter radiant vs son once>pic related happenswoah
I want to smooch Dawn...
>>97474417>t. anon after correction
>>97474443Still the best S.T.A.L.K.E.R. cyoa and easily one of top five 'post apoc' cyoa's. If you would put S.T.A.L.K.E.R. into the category of 'post apoc'.
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>>97474443>Said correction is just Dawn hugging anon and telling him everything is going to be okay and that he's gonna make it
>>97474383It has only gotten worse
>>97474637Proofs?
>>97474652Ah, sorry, *I* have gotten worseThe situation has actually stayed mostly the sameThanks for factchecking on that
>>97474383Why the long face?
>>97474484'Pork-Chop'Type: Novice StalkerOutfit: Sunrise SuitFaction: LonersPrimary Weapon: Rifle (Cold War Surplus/East Bloc)>3 Extra Mags >Bayonet>Scope>BipodSide Arm: Compact Shotgun>2 Extra reloadsAccessories:>Gas Mask>Weight Redistribution>Comfy Camping Kit>Guitar>High-end MedkitsCreed: ScavengerCompanions:>Vasya Boar>Olya Fiend>Polina FlashHealth: 8Stamina: 8.5Survival: 6.5 (+1.5)Fame: 5Close Combat: 5.5Ranged Combat: 8.5Mutant Combat: 9.5Reliability: 8Protection/Combat: 3Protection/Radiation: 3.5Protection/Psi: 2Economy: 4 (+3)Carried Weight: 27kgNotes:-Rifle and outdoorsmen skills left to him by his Father.-Made a name for himself (literally) by hunting the less mutated wildlife to feed himself and the other Rookies in the Cordon.-Meets Vasya here and quickly bond over shared interest and outlooks.-They meet Flash & Fiend much like how Frodo and Sam ran in to Merry and Pippin. Except instead of Farmer Maggot and his crops it's the military and their gear.-Between the girls they're considered a bit of a nuisance at the 100Rads but have earnt a bit of respect for clearing out Mutant nests for Duty.-No clear leadership has formed yet which could spell disaster if one of Polina's plans goes too far south or if Olya and Vasya keep butting heads.-Currently planning their first deep foray into the ZoneTried not to be too min-maxy and I feel like I struck a nice balance. Outside of his defence scored he isn't lacking too heavily in anything and has a few strengths. Not completely broke. Decent chances of survival if he sticks to what he's good at and doesn't bite off more than he can chew.I could probably rejig a couple of options and comfortably spring for a better suit but anything more than a Sunrise on a Novice seems a bit far fetched.
>>97474686Anonymous, there are evil fuckers inside of every big website, and every big website is too big for it to be your problem. Don't worry, and be happy.
>>97474704Yeah, Yeah.Thank you anonI'll try to wait patiently for the fall of western civilisation
Making my own CYOA made me appreciate things I previously took for granted.For example, tonal and thematic consistency. It's such an important yet easily ruined part of a CYOA. In my case what started out as a regular fantasy adventure ended up being some weird "we have dark souls at home" vagueposting edgefest, which just doesn't feel right. And I didn't even realise it until I started rereading. Now the entire second half will have to be scrapped because it's just entirely unfitting because fighting Abyssal God of Umbral Assrape just doesn't have the same drama when one of your potential companions is a literal magic clown.So to any anon who managed to make their CYOA consistent in theme and vibe, in design, text and everything else? Good for you, bros. I respect that.
>>97474686QRD?
>>97474792There was another dump of epstein files less then 24 hours agoPolshit warning:Jeffery epstein is introduced to moothttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01992938.pdfJeffery epstein meets moot in personhttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA02024168.pdfJeffery epstein directly expresses that he hopes to use 4chan for the manipulation of usershttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01990136.pdfThe meeting is implied to happen around 10/24/201110/23/2011 is approximatly the day when the /pol/ board is re-added to 4chanA board well known for bot farms and one often implied to have had a large part in jeffery epsteins friend/associate trump into a us presidentcy
>>97474801Ok, and?
>>97473065I am late to the discussion but wouldn’t sons just throw infinite resources at the Paladins and win through attrition? Paladins only have small parties while Sons have multiverses worth of souls to make minions with.
>>97474842Sons have finite resources, in the way of souls. Paladins have an infinitely replenishing source of holy magic, and there's at least a few powers that straight up let you do better against overwhelming odds/long fights of attrition
>>97474842No, that would be cheatingYou can't just avoid other peoples abilities like thatWhat's next, Targeting their weaknesses? Tricking them? Not fighting 1v1 in the first place?Next you're going to tell me the son tries to seek powers from outside his own cyoa or some bullshitAlthough seriously to even slightly humor this fight we must both assume that the entropist can't leave and that universal weight as a concept doesn't exist. If you let a son be an actual dark lord the paladin can do almost nothing. If you let them cast spells the paladin can do nothing. If you let their unstopable forces beat the paladins immovable objects obviously the paladin can do nothing
The most memorable CYOAs are the ones where there's a shitton of sufficiently esoteric and pretentious lore and some overpowered abilities. Everything else is unimportant.
>>97474988You basically just described Italics CYOAs.
>>97474999Well we do remember them, don't we?
/v/ is a better /cyoag/ at this point
>>97474686Not related to CYOAs, kill yourself
>>97474387Why would you enable stubs? Just disable them and you won't see a single hidden post.
>>97475010No...
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>>97475050Are you retarded or something? What the fuck is this about?
>>97475053Tok is a shitposter that doesn't make proper CYOA threads.Ignorant newfrens like you need to be shown how to do things right.
>>97475053OP forgot to name the thread.
>>97475063Oh no. So what?>>97475062Wait for this one to die and make new one. This isn't /vg/ or whatever.
>>97475069>Wait for this one to die and make new oneNo. One shitposter shouldn't be allowed to disrupt normal CYOA operations.
>>97475083>to disrupt normal CYOA operationsThis thread went on normally after tok got humiliated again and left. You are either retarded or just trying to stir up drama out of nothing.
>>97474946Why would Sons resource be finite? All the endgame Sons should have self sustaining armies genociding multiverse and shipping souls through the Dreamland to Sons or "soul farm" planes. They also have infinite options when dealing with Paladins, from using Demiurges to trading favors with Demons to borrow their Tempered Heroes. Also some anons in the last thread said the Earth Giant is stronger than the Paladins. If it’s true, how is it even a debate?
>>97475109SHUT UUUUUUP
>>97475109who cares about these multiversal armies if a paladin with holy shroud can just sneak trough all of your defenses get into 1 v 1 range to smite you.
>>97475069>Oh no. So what?so half of the people don't find itmake a proper thread, i don't care if you don't like the other one, just do it right next time
You realise we still can't ignore this thread right?Someone needs to be posting in it or it will remain on the catalog for daysThis is one of the very few situations where pointless bickering is allowed. Start burning thread
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>>97474007AllsyncAnon for an archivist you are extremely shit at recognising and differentiating the styles of authors. Radiant is clearly not made by pca, its nowhere close his visual style nor writing. SP on the other hand clearly is, if you take a page of Living God and Spirit Conscript and compare them you'll immediately notice this.
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>>97475516Box one, cure terminal condition
>>97475519Box two, True chrononaut
>>97475521Box three, reach for the stars
>>97475528Box four, Cure mortality
>>97475008>Constructs>Ghosts
With the Epstein file dump I'm starting to think maybe Entropist was right about the whole moloch thing.
>>97475102>t. ok
>>97473765>no one in their right mindSome people live by those rules anyway. I took the vows that encompass my regular behavior.
>>97475751People have been noticing since the ancient times. Why do you think they were exiled from so many states? They can't be all wrong
>>97474842"well with infinite prep time sons can store up infinite souls"And if they have to fight as soon as the builds are finished sons have literally zero abilities or powers active.
>>97476345I'm starting to think maybe the houndcel isn't so bad after all.
>>97475109>If it’s true>IfThe physical ability of paladins is down to the build, they can be literally arbitrarily strong, they can be equal to whatever theyre fighting or have a load of theoretically infinite scalers (the "vs numbers" scaler is pretty strongIts like saying an earth giant is stronger than a son, its true for some combinations of what a son can do and false for others. Their real advantage is that unlike everything else they dont cost souls and therefore dont instantly vaporise into constituent atoms from infinite damage soulfire/associated abilities.
>>97476437Absolutely no reason why Sons should fight when they are disadvantaged. Who would powerscale Batman with no preptime against anyone? Even if they have to fight, they can dip to another plane, have the Silencer Chosen assassinate the Paladin, run to Moloch's hell, etc.
>>97475936> GiftsMaskCompassBottle> Mentor Katyusha Romanov> Further TrainingElemental ImmunityFine ControlExtended RangeIncreased PowerBeast Form (Hawk, Immortal Jellyfish)This next year is going to suck hard, but it's worth it. Wind magic is as always the best, and with beast form I can hopefully achieve immortality. Long run I'd like to join up with Astraeus to fight the bad guys (or should I say, it seems like the only viable option).
Next thread should this thread be linked as the alternate previous thread?Or should it be forgotten?
>>97476609Link them both
>>97476609Let it be forgotten
>>97476605>Absolutely no reason why Sons should fight when they are disadvantagedAbsolutely no reason to assume they get a choice in the matter. Especially since every method of escape they have isnt instant and takes many resources anyways. >Who would powerscale Batman with no preptime against anyoneSomeone who isnt interested in contriving batman a win? Why would you assume favorable conditions and significant resources rather than the neutral condition of "Nothing"? Thats literally the problem (with powerscaling batman or the sons in this case or anyone else reliant on specific circumstances to have a fighting chance), either you assume whatever conditions necessary for them to have a fighting chance/advantage, or you dont and they lose. Should we assume the paladin manifests in smiting distance of the son since thats what they want to do? Do they absorb "infinite" unholy energy by killing dudes with their sunsilver weapon to have an "infinitely" powerful weapon while the son was busy soul farming? >Even if they have to fight, they can dip to another plane, have the Silencer Chosen assassinate the Paladin, run to Moloch's hell, etc.They can, although all of those still take resources (planeswalking isnt free, its a bunch of souls to do that) and time (planeswalking takes time, trying to convince the chosen to do something (even if they could) takes time, etc). Not to mention that paladins can still just follow them wherever they might run. Another issue with "preptime" is that you assume information is present for both parties. How/why would a son know they need to prepare and for what? With the paladin you can at least assume they used one of their methods of ex-nihilo information (divine guidance/akashic record or the book of names or dawn or whatever), but whats the son "preparing" for and why and how?
>>97476788Like the whole thing with "just give batman prep for free" feels like the most obvious concession of " the 99% of the time he doesent get all the prep time he needs he gets reduced to a thin smear". You're basically saying, "assume ideal circumstances and its a fight"
They should do brackets for Sons vs paladins. 10,000 souls, 100,000 souls, 1 million, 10 million, 100 million, 10 billion, etc. Also do brackets for Paladins. 100pts, 200pts, 300pts, 400pts, 500pts (is that the max? how high can they go?)
>>97476824Sons carried by a fictional powersets. If they not have that, they lose.Don't matter the souls numbers.
>>97476835You need souls to planeswalk to any other universe.
>>97476873Ok? I'm not sure if this changes anything.
>>97476888Well, if you dont have enough souls theyre just barred from any other universe regardless of anything else.
>>97476891Probably. Some drawback/minion combinations could skip the soul grind, but overwise I agree.
Where is Gil?I have this coconut that needs to be shoved up his butt
>>97476938Do not. Leave his butt alone!
>>97476788>>97476805One of the gift has free planeswalking. And Moloch probably will give them free ride to get them away from Earth. Newborn Sons are practically infants. No sensical powerscale is gonna use babies as starting point. Baby Bruce with no money, no physique, no training had to watch his parent died but that doesn’t mean Batman is street tier. You don’t powerscale baby Bruce. You scale Adult Bruce with/without prep time
I'm sick and tired of seeing gil get mentioned every thread. He hasn't made a CYOA or posted here in years.
>>97476965He is like that guy behind the door from bloodborne; “password?”; and then you find out he’s already been dead (a dried out skeleton) for years, once you give it to him. Spoo00ooky.
gil’s a g-g-ghost?!
>>97476962>doesn’t mean Batman is street tierBut he is a street tier. Unless we count the plot armor as his strength, of course.
Why did no one tell me that it's pretty hard to actually come up with good characters for your cyoa I'm being exposed as a brainlet here
>>97476977Worms, slugs, phantasms and ectoplasm are related. Idk maybe.
Coconuts? I’ve seen melons.
Also there's a weird mind trap of worldbuilding where you gaslight yourself into trying to flesh out the world only to later realize it's a fucking CYOA and not a pitch for a homebrew game and 95% of your writing is irrelevant while the remaining 5% are about as original as a piece of cardboard but are exactly the thing that the players are gonna need.Just, uh, wanted to pay my respects to every anon who has ever done a long-form story-oriented CYOA.
>>97477051Are you saying I should save all of my cool ideas for something else?
>>97477051good, too many authors have this delusion that they're novelists
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>>97476048So you are actively looking to do good deeds, like are you volunteering for free work at homeless shelters and sending money to save the children and other humanitarian organizations?
>>97477055You can write an actual story, but it is much more work imo.
>>97477012Coming up with characters is easy. The problem is that most people try to create the full character all at once, when it's a lot easier to think of them as the sum of their parts. For example, take an angry barbarian warrior who lost his wife and is meant to be a rival for the player. Altogether, that's a decently simple character but it can be a bit cumbersome to come up with the entire idea all at once. Instead, what I like to do is come up with a few separate singular parts reflecting the CYOA, but generally consisting of Look, Personality, Abilities, Motive, Flaws, and Narrative Role.Each one has a few ideas attached to it, that can then be mixed-and-matched to get unusual characters. Our earlier barbarian could have different Abilities than the default for his aesthetic, and be an assassin, and instead of being angry, his Flaw could be that he's an alcoholic and lost to the drink. So now, there's a drunkard barbarian who lost his wife due to his recklessness and became an assassin in a bid to atone, who is now a rival for the player. It's more of an art than it is a science, and I'm not that good at making characters but my advice is that a modular framework helps a lot. I wish you luck on your projects, anon.
>>97477055I'm not saying YOU should do anything, I'm simply saying what sort of mistakes I'm making and how making that "cool CYOA that I totally can just write in day or two" ended up being a rather long process. And gave me a certain appreciation for good CYOAs that I have previously lacked.
>>97476962>newborn sons are practically infantsIts almost like surviving and resource management from zero is one of their challenges and the dangers they face. And batman IS street tier.
>>97477088>THIS is what filtered so many anons
>>97477012Just do what I do and plagiarize most of the characters from yourself, from past CYOAs you've made. Easy!...except I'm still short ~2 characters of my target cast and no new ideas are coming...
>>97477051I view my CYOA as a testing ground for ideas to use in a video game. Which I'll definitely, certainly make someday. So, I want them to be good ideas!
>>97477088Just use Knife Meta and take all powers for free, if it bower you that much.
>>97477099You don’t spawn camp and write them off like that. All the drawbacks even specifically said their opponents aren’t too strong. Baby Superman would be neg diff by Batman if you use that logic. >Batman is street tierWhich street are you living on? The man wiped the justice league multiple times and has multiversal feats
>>97477119>Which I'll definitely, certainly make someday.Ganbatte anon!
>>97477051>NOOOO HECKING YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN MAKING WHAT YOU WANT UNLESS IT RESULTS IN PROFIT HURR MY PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVENESS
>>97477091>but my advice is that a modular framework helps a lot. I wish you luck on your projects, anonThanks, anon. I'll try it out, because I've run out of "man I really want to put this character that I came with into this game" wholesale inspiration and need to think about making choices actually meaningful and the backdrop lore somewhat connected. If anything, making CYOAs certainly teaches you to condense things and express the main ideas in a clear and concise way.>>97477112I try not to think about the numbers at all, otherwise I get discouraged
>>97477149I beg your pardon?
>>97477142That's only true for some of them, the true goddess and Grim both turbofuck sons.
None of you are making CYOAs, none.All of you are just filthy liars.
>>97474801Thanks anon
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>>97477142>The man wiped the justice league multiple times and has multiversal featsSo this is the power of plot armor
>>97477217>So this is the power of plot armor The greatest power of them all.
If anyone is making OC please make some Chink/Gook slop. I crave immortality and martial arts!
>>97477237This and make sure you get Vermillion right this time.Fuck Rake.
>>97477237>I crave immortality and martial arts!This is 100% compatible with non-eastern philosophy.Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration
>>97477237Shut up Tok!
>>97477240>Matterfag agreeing with meUh oh, I don't feel so good anons...
>>97477237>I crave immortality and martial arts!Best I can give is gathering a party to stop ancient evil. You can be a half-elf or something.
>>97477142He got low diffed by bane and struggles with random mentally ill thugs, he's street tier
>>97477268If only D&D monk class didn't suck
>>97477275I'll throw a demon clown wife in as a bonus, just stop complaining
>>97477256It's a vibe thing but you know that. Honestly if you factor the Christian corruption out, Hermetic Alchemy and Eastern Alchemy really might be describing the same phenomenon.
>>97477142Baby superman would absolutely destroy baby batman, which is the comparable level of development.
>>97477237Stop cultivating your martial arts. Sit down and watch Kung Fu movies instead.
>>97477288>might be describing the same phenomenon.Homosexuality?
>>97477287>Demon clown waifuAlways really liked the one in this CYOA if you need ideas
>>97477311The Prima Materia is butt sex. Of course, your a genius anon!!!
>>97477288>It's a vibe thing but you know that.I love the vibe of the west. I really hate that the west has been degraded so much that the youth of today seek an escape to the east.Mankind should reclaim and restore his great heritage, not throw it all away because some psychopathic FUCKS want to destroy it!!!
I think its time.True Thread >>97475036
>>97477340Fuck off Tok.
>>97477338It's been downhill since the Jews convinced Constantine to convert anon.
>>97477357>It's been downhill since the Jews convinced people to worship a dead jewFixed
>>97475050>>97477340Twice in one thread
>>97477363I will accept that correction, although there have certainly been pivotal moments which is what I was alluding to.
>>97477196I'm working very hard on my CYOA! I'm getting to a part with a LOT of manual image editing for transparency/masking (getting a good, clean transparency without any artifacts takes a lot of work; Select by Color/Magic Wand never gets it right and there's always a lot of manual cleanup after). And this is on top of all the image editing I already do.
>>97477142>spawn campImplies one party is set up while the other isnt. A neutral starting point isnt spawn campint, its simply not creating a scenario biased for any given party. >but some of them NEED prep time!relying on advantageous circumstances is a weakness, and should be treated as suchIf someone has some sort of isnta-kill super poison that requires very specific preparation using parts of the target, you do not assume they will manage to make or apply this poison, thats stupid. Prep time works similarly.Neither batman nor sons can control whether they have prep-time or not, therefore they should not be assumed to have it/have it in whatever arbitrarily large quantity is needed, its that simple
>>97477357Christianity has some nasty subversive taint attached to it, but I think it is far more beneficial to humanity than the other chaotic and bloodthirsty religions.Christianity NEEDS to change, get rid of that "we killed the son of God and we need to be punished for our sins" self-hating guilt-trip, and replace it with a philosophy that is compatible with a strong mankind that has sails the stars and makes friends with good guy xenos.
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>>97477309Fucking hate this retarded downy looking bitch. Idk why but her face pisses me the fuck off. Italics is truly dogshit at depicting strong figures of authority.
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>>97477256Its missing the immortality part. Also greek wrestling sounds like a euphemism for gay sex.
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>>97477427>Christianity could work if it's central tenants were different!Lol, LMAO even.
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>>97477391>not creating a scenario biased for any given partyIt is biased if a confrontation right after character creation. One side have almost all tools from the start, other side have a long ramp up time.
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>>97477427>replace it with a philosophy that is compatible with a strong mankind that has sails the stars and makes friends with good guy xenos.Sounds like scientology.
>>97477467No it isnt, thats a neutral scenario that gives neither party anything. Rather than engineering a scenario to compensate for the weakness of one side and give them the circumstances you need. >One side have almost all tools from the start, other side have a long ramp up time.Yea, and thats a weakness for the party that needs aeons to get going. Its the same as prep time, the fact that without it batman is reduced to a thin paste by basically anyone doesent mean you automatically give him prep time, it just means you accept that the 99/100 times he doesent get ideal circumstances he simply dies
>>97477317She's not really a demon, an eldritch abomination homunculus clown more like.
>>97477427Christianity is not related to the solar aspect. None virtue
>>97477462>>97477477Different doesn't equal unrecognizable.Get rid of the imperfections, and you can have a nice religious organization that is just, kind, and doesn't lie to you.>>97477492That's just your biased and limited interpenetration talking. You simply lack insight.
>>97477488>99/100 times he doesent get ideal circumstances he simply diesOk? Its just mean son without ramp up will die and son with proper powerset will kill.Also sons side have a better access to the multiverse, so they in fact can dictate time of the engagement.
>>97477317>Always really liked the one in this CYOA if you need ideasThanks. But, uh, demon clown wife is already done, along with a few other characters, it's the matter of filling out the rest of the roster, both companions and the antagonists
>>97477525At that point why even tie it to Christianity? just make a new religion from scratch and make yourself its jesus.
>>97477525>Get rid of the imperfections, and you can have a nice religious organization that is just, kind, and doesn't lie to you.You got a mechanism to actually do that? A way to edit the Bible and convince 2 billion Christians to go along with it?
I'm going to my OWN religion with COCAINE and ENDLESS SEX WITH CELESTIAL HOOKERS!
>>97477582This but unironically
>>97477582At least we won't have to kiss the feet of immigrants.
>>97477593You in particular will tho.
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>>97477599No u
>>97477563>A way to edit the BibleRelease Bible RemasteredPeople loooooove remasters
>>97477532>Ok? Its just mean son without ramp up will dieYes, unless you go out of your way to contrive ideal circumstances for them, they will just die, thats the point being made. >Also sons side have a better access to the multiverseRaguel and the map of doors are both arguably better (especially in the context of "find someone you are trying to fight"), and dont require working towards (unlike planeswalking, which sons dont start with).
Please go to my thread I'm so lonely...
MOOOOMMMMTOK IS POSTING AGAIN
>>97477617With a behind the scenes directors commentary!
>>97477540The past and culture has a very deep influence on people.Chance is necessary, and absolute concept of existence, but it doesn't mean you have to completely abandon the things that you love.>>97477563It doesn't happen overnight. Humanity will improve it's situation, and will learn to grow and and adapt with the times. Star Trek (Before 2009) being an idealized fictitious example of man's potential.
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>>97477630>but it doesn't mean you have to completely abandon the things that you loveYea but I love people not Rabbi Yeshua.
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>>97477629>behind the scenes directors commentary>It's Pope and cardinals talking about how difficult it was to refrain from dabbing on orthodoxy
>>97477630Anon it sounds to me like you really want to christian but aren't hypocritical enough to think blindly follow it, so you're trying to delude yourself into thinking that a few tweaks would make it all rainbows and sunshine and somehow erase all the bad associated with it.
>>97477630>Humanity will improve it's situation, and will learn to grow and and adapt with the times.By dropping milenia old superstitions, not trying to force a square peg in a round hole. We don't get the Startrek future until we do, which you would know if you ever watched it.
>>97477618>contrive ideal circumstancesBut you make it for paladins by denying sons strength and enforcing weaknesses.
STOP TALKING AND MIGRATE INTO MY THREAD
>>97477654What would he say?
>>97477630>Star Trek (Before 2009)Thanks for reminding me about the new Starfleet academy show asshole.
>>97477679>StarfleetMore like Starjeet lmao.
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>>97477667No, I am giving paladins nothing because I am not giving either side anything. The fact that one side is simply favored in a neutral engagement does not make it not a neutral engagement. >denying strengthIf sons had reliable ways to avoid and escape while they power themselves up, they could still do so. Why should they be given them for free? If they cant. They cant, and they dont get to power up, because why would they be given THAT for free either.
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>>97477661>so you're trying to delude yourself into thinking that a few tweaks would make it all rainbows and sunshine and somehow erase all the bad associated with itI may have been a bit overboard with the flowery text. Of course there would still be some flaws, and that's okay, there will never be 100% good and 0% evil, but we can try our best to make it close as possible without trampling all over peoples' free will.>>97477665Religion and spirituality is included in Star Trek, DS9 is filled to the brim with it.
>>97477694So you basically saying if paladin get ideal circumstances they win. Sure.
>>97477707I prefer the Picard to the Sisko.
>>97477695>SS.AAR Redeemer reporting for duty!
>>97477755Due to coding errors we will no longer be conducting the Kobayashi Maru test.
>>97477710Anyone wins given ideal circumstances, Paladins simply win without needing ideal circumstances, unlike sons.
>>97476965It's just gil trying to get attention so he posts some dumb ass sentence like "waa gil's shriveled cock" to try and get a response. Ignore and move on. Gil hasn't been relevant for nearly a decade.
>>97477797>without needing ideal circumstancesDon't look like this to me. Spawn camping is an ideal circumstances for them.
>>97477718>I prefer the PicardWhile I like all of them, he's the one that resonates with me the least. Even the w*man captain from Voyager. I just get annoyed by his overly patient way of doing things. Like when Sisko punched Q in the face for being a taunting jackass, that made him my favorite.
>>97477835No, ideal circumstances would be "spent however long learning all magic in the universe, all martial arts and combat skills in the universe, powered up the sword to a functionally infinite degree and then stored up functionally infinite energy via runestones"Giving neither side anything is inherently neutral.
>>97477866>Giving neither side anything is inherently neutral.Its not if one side have a full access to toolkit and other side is not. Its called an ideal circumstances.
>>97477887It is, because if one side does not have access to something "by default" then thats an inherent weakness of that side.
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What cyoa lets me punish the evil demons who control our world.>inbf RadiantDoesn't let me wipe out the synagogue of satan for whatever reason just based on the mandatory oaths.
>>97479738Entropist.
>>97479745This is actually true and not even a joke. You can just wipe out evil and demons and be rewarded for it.
>>97479738Universal War pdf CYOAhttps://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3?dir=/CYOAs%20Themed/Empowered%20Based%20CYOAs/~Becoming%20a%20Deity/Universal%20War%20CYOA%20%28by%20Lodoleth%29
>>97479759I wasn't joking. They do everything oathkeks can't.
>>97479745>>97479759>>97479778Sons are encouraged to kill everyone. And they will likely target Demons less because Demons know how to butter up to Sons while Daughters/Goddesses/Hound forces are more likely to seek out Sons to stop them from harvesting souls. Realistically, you will be fighting the forces of Good most of the time, most likely with Hell's help.
>>97479824>forces of Good>can't attack Evil head onYeah they deserved to be wipe out. Now there is no more pushovers nor rampant sociopaths.
>>97479824>sons and demons are allies Sonbros are we actually evil?
>>97479778>oathkek>"I have to forgive Epstein he said he's sowwy uwu">sonchad>"I'm burning every single pedo in my soul forge to fuel my multiversal anti-demon warmachine".
>>97480101Yet another proof Sons are based.
