Baldur's Gate specifically.Between this and Amazon's Warhammer, a lot of fresh blood will enter the hobby. Are you excited, /tg/?
No because DnD is Dogshit.
NGL I'm excited.
>>97508674No one asked you no games or brains.
>>97508662>a lot of fresh blood will enter the hobbyI suppose some of them will end up playing good games eventually>Are you excited, /tg/?No.
I'm fine with new faces to the hobby. The shit ones will self-segregate themselves by sticking with the great D&D/40k filter, and the good ones you want will explore other systems.
>>97508662I would be surprised if this resulted in a serious amount of inflow considering it's mainly based on a videogame. People will want to play with the characters in the show, who you can find in the video game, rather than make their own completely unique party.This is what I tell myself and pray to be true.
>>97508662lmao more swill for the (((modern audience)))enjoy your ridiculous failure
>>97508662>set AFTER the gameSo, when the plot has already been wrapped up and nothing serious needs doing?
>>97508728Somehow, Raphael returned.
>>97508662>Continuing the game plotFucking why?
Modern D&D, Amazon, "Rule of Cool", Baldur's Gate lol whacky modern.Gonna be awful
please for the love of god don't make shadowheart some ugly sheboon
>>97508662I really hope they animate it, but I know they're going to spend millions on crappy CGI instead.I get why they decided on using a popular game over something more original given how the movie did, but I would have liked if they did a TV show on one of their other settings. Eberron would have been cool to see.I'd probably watch it anyways.
>>97508662>the last of us showrunnerhttps://youtu.be/sJEuLeXoeRg?t=11
>>97508662At this point, I hope this kills D&D enough for someone based to be able to buy it from Hasbro.
>>97508662No, because 40K is gay edgelord shit
>>97508745Nah she will be 1:1, the protagonist however...
>>97508662the bar is in hell but I know I'll still be disappointed>live action>medieval world>Hasbro fired all writers who helped Larian with the gameexpect the female actresses to have so much Botox in their face DnD is going to invent the new Botoloxium spell to explain why nobody can express emotions anymore
>>97508710Not that different from people wanting to plat drizzt at the time. That's how many start.
>>97508662woah I can't wait to see characters to relate with!
>>97508662This now makes me wonder if Amazon's Warhammer series will be 'Rogue Trader'
>>97508662I hope we don't have to see Elminster's penis
>>97509192>can I be a miniature giant space hamster?>yes>lol, can my weapon be a giant spork?>yes
>>97509192I'm extremely surprised that none of them are visibly crippled
>>97508662>Larian have no involvement with the show>Are you excited, /tg/?
>>97509495WoTC truly is a horrible company.
>>97508662>a lot of fresh blood will enter the hobbyI'm not sure D&D is already reached pop culture saturation, if normies wanted in, they would have come in by now.
>>97509500At least they are being sued for it now
>>97509495Reminder that Larian not being involved doesn't mean anything and that the real deal is the fact that all writers who worked with them during the production of Bg3 we're fired by HasbroFuck 'em
>>97508662I'm quite happy. Most of the people will stick to 5e and those who are curious or have interest in the hobby beyond playing fantasy tea parties will end up finding their way to the OSR.
>>97509627>OSRI'd rather play GURPS than involve myself with the kind of bitter cunt that plays OSR
>>97508662>fresh blood will enter the hobby.Uh-oh>Are you excited, /tg/?no
>>97508728Bro doesn't know dee and dee
>>97508662Whatever. I haven't played the BG3 and don't really watch TV. Can't say I've ever seen the Critical Roles or other TTRPG shows, either.But the impact it has on our hobby is that a ton of new people are excited about it and it's gained some social clout that we dorks have never had. It's been good for the indies that produce and publish things for our hobbies. I'm glad.
>>97508662ZZZZZZZZ
>fresh blood>HBO
>>97508662Yeah I'm excited to see what a trainwreck it turns out to be and the schadenfreude of watching the people still clinging to D&D deal with a new wave of bandwagoners.
>>97508739Because they want to keep milking it but pissed Larian off so much that they refused to do any DLC.
>>97508662>Craig MazinIt will suck, but shit taste retards will pretend like it's amazing.
>>97508662>Worked on the LoU showOh...oh no...
>>97508685>normies flood into TTRPG>they expect whimsical silly little adventures and WACKY situations>they get pissed because it's boring and with a lot of number crushing amd writing 80% of the time>they leave and just got back to watching CR / playing barebones cRPGs
>>97510305Only the containment game is affected, it's not that bad.
>>97510305My games are always wacky in some way
>>97510407I always play in such a way that noobs have fun at my table. Still, some of them really are confused about what D&D should be. Too often I run into players who want a hundred visuals, and I'm just stuck trying to describe something and watching them deflate right in front of me.
>>97508662I don't understand? Isn't gay black porn already free on the internet?
>>97509495>Oh no guys, the people who kept patching their game to make it less interesting aren't involvedThank fucking christ.
>>97509840>it's gained some social clout that we dorks have never had. D&D is still just as uncool as ever, anon. And so are traditional gamers. It's Critical Roll and "geeks" that are in vogue, cause most of the people that get into D&D by way of Critical Roll aren't expecting to actually do anything, they're usually expecting to just sit there and make the game master act as a glorified storyteller with minimal input on their part. So I'm not excited at all to get more useless twats that stare at me like gormless sheep whenever I ask them what they want to do at a fucking bar, as though they've never been in one before or expected they'd have to actually play a game.
>>97508662Strange. One would think HBO would have enough money to BUY A FUCKING AD.
>>97510570I'm not so sure. A lot of people will get really interested when I explain that I am a DM. Most want to try the hobby for themselves. Sure, a lot of them leave after they realize it's not like Critical Role or some shit, but I do believe that with all the exposure from media, we're living in the most TTRPG friendly world we've seen in a long while.
>>97510575Seething.
>>97510580I'm willing to believe it's a regional kind of thing, because ttrpgs are still just as uncool and derisive to most people where I am, and while we're in an era where there are more people exposed to the idea of what D&D is, said media usually gives what I feel is a very false impression of D&D. Most media still treats it as either a passive game where the GM is narrating for a bunch of people who throw d20s out every five minutes but otherwise just quietly sit and listen instead of talking or planning what they want to do, or a super whacky unserious comedic affair instead of an experience everyone can mold to their liking, whether as light-hearted or as dark as they want.
>>97508662>HBOI'm interested in how they'd tackle a fantasy property, period.
>>97510643They already did fantasy shows.
>>97510643anon, I...
>>97510643What is Game of Thrones
>>97509490the tiefling is a womanthe warforgeds think that voting for the government to have control over compelled speech will never backfire on themthe hamster plays competitive standard in mtg
>>97508662>Larian no involvement>Wotc fired everyone on staff before 5.24 launchedSo a trainwreck then.>>97510164>>97510168>>97510140/tg/ - Topics/General
>>97510605>West CoastPoint taken.
>>97510678A GARBAGE FIRE
>>97508662>Craig Mazin >Continuation of the games plot. >Original devs will not be involved.Cool expensive failure.
I have concerns. The D&D world has never lent itself well to tv or movies. Say what you want, they can have ok books, but I'm just wondering why there is no canon "D&D world" to work in, like with WoW or LoL. Forgive me for only listing video games. I just wonder what the deal is. I can see this company having a very robust, beloved setting that people would pay a ton to play around in, but they just don't do it. I don't have a ton of faith for this project, I just don't understand how it got to be such a waste of potential. The Sword Coast and Baldur's Gate aren't even that well fleshed out in my mind. They have few clear maps and histories, as far as common knowledge goes. I'm sorry to say it. I'd love for this project to thrive, but I have serious doubts.
>>97508662>set after the events of game>game developers have no involvement with the showThis is gonna be the Fallout show all over again, isn't it?
>>97510549Make three changes they did that aren't fixing obvious bugs or exploits.
>>97508684Most D&D fans never played D&D other than BG3, little bro.
>>97508662Imagine the levels of millennial writing in this slop.
>>97512453>picI'm glad I never watched it if even one of those plot points was present.
>>97509462I hope we get a solid minute of that rod of God, that big dipper, that hairy baby arm...
>>97510580Agreed. People from my work who very much aren't the TTRPG kinda people were interested and a couple even joined when I roped the IT team into playing with me. Hell our head of sales, a tech-bro frat boy, joined us and had fun for three sessions. Mostly 'cuz he's my best work friend despite being pretty much exact opposites. But still. Normal-as-fuck people at least react with "oh that's neat. I don't really understand what it is."
>>97512241>The D&D world has never lent itself well to tv or movies. Say what you want, they can have ok books, but I'm just wondering why there is no canon "D&D world" to work in, like with WoW or LoL.This has gotta be a weird-as-fuck troll post, right?
>>97512241>Forgive me for only listing video games.>The Sword Coast and Baldur's Gate aren't even that well fleshed outSo, you're a vidya cunt who can't even into vidya? Kys, nogaems.
>>97515749...he says on a quintessentially millennial site. Go home, zoomer. You're drunk.
>>97508662it is weird that the popular thing i cant understand is now within my hobby.
>>97508751Too late! She's also a whore and is fucking a new guy every episode, plus Halsin. They'd probably do that if she was casted with an attractive actress, though.
>>97508662Well, the cast is already very diverse and full of strong women, so surely they can't fuck it up too much.
>>97517618who gets blackwashed though, since they literally can't help themselves ?
>>97517666Wyll
>>97508684>No one asked you no games or brains.What's the point in asking if you're going to be so bitter at people disagreeing with you?
>>97509192The thing I hate the most about this art is that they almost had a cohesive group concept. Two Warforged? That's kinda neat. But noooo, noooo! Fuck having synergy! One of them needs to be a funny space hamster with the funny LE SPORK because that's funny!I'm not going to waste time on the Tiefling because there's nothing to complain about. It's the most basic bitch Tiefling you can ask for. Seriously, the only thing they could've done to make them lamer was add, fuck I don't know, some tits?
>>97510344>Only the containment game is affected, it's not that bad.I've seen 5e hacks for Cyberpunk 2020. 5e hacks for L5R. Wizzers of the Crust becoming the mythical city on the hill means everyone wants to get inside, and the sound they'll make rattling their cage will serve as a warning to the electronic old men running the world.
>>97508662Watching things flop in expensive manner is always exciting.
>>97508662Babe wake up. New softcore porn fantasy show has dropped
>>97508662I wont watch this or the 40k show. D&D and 40k are flypaper for tourist. They will remain there and not venture off and ruin the other games I like.
>>97517888Not really, it means every system will need to build itself more like 5e to survive.
>>97517852If you think there’s going to be any hot women in this show I’ve got some very bad news for you.
>>97510305As someone who plays a lot of games with silly adventures, I don't need to crunch numbers because the computer does it for me.
>>97517919At this point I'd settle for just not having Debra Wilson in it.
>>97517852It will be nothing but faggots and ugly women.
>>97517784I tried to softball the idea of a Star Wars RPG after our 3.5 game is over and the first thing one of my bros said is "dude there's a really extensive 5e homebrew".
Not going to watch it.
>>97519706I still haven't watched HAT.
>>97509157>That's how many start.That's how many started in 1994. There's no way in hell little zoomies and alphas have an idea who Drizzt is beyond TikTok clips of someone giving a QRD of the Icewind Dale Trilogy article featured in the Forgotten Realms wiki.
>set after the endingWhich ending? There are so many endings that Larian said that not every single one has even been played through.Did the Dark Urge take control of the brain for Daddy Bhaal? Or themselves? Is it about Karlach and Wyll going to Avernus to find a cure for her engine? Did La'zel free Orpheus or did she become that bitch lich goddess's dragon rider? Is Gale a God?
>>97520074>Which ending?all of them
>>97520074I suspect they're going to do what the Fallout show did and buttfuck the setting so badly that the question of which ending was canon becomes completely moot.
>>97520202I hate when adaptations change core happenings. Just stick to the source material, for real.
>>97520074pretty sure WotC already came out and said the brain lostthe rest is up to the player, but I'm pretty sure they're always with 'the good guys win'which is why for example every W drow or thay ever had or have is temporary and the good guys save the day
>>97520443D&D is one of those franchises that can pull off a "good guys lost" concept pretty well.
>>97508662This is going to flop, HARD. Craig Mazin already ran one show into the ground by making it wokeslop, and he'll fucking do it again. BG 3 has a massive fanbase, but I don't know if it's enough to support a TV series. Especially if the creators don't make it for the fans, but for an imaginary "modern audience," the same audience that didn't show up for The Last of Us show, or Veilguard, or Dustborn, or Concord, or Highguard. Not to mention it'd be hard to please the fans in the first place, given the freedom of choice in BG 3. Every player had their own experience with the game and their own ideas on what the "canon" endings for all the plotlines are. Seeing anything else presented as the official canon will feel disappointing.But there's a bigger issue. D&D fans would surely love to see more D&D media outside of novels and games. But what will movie studios have to reference when some bright-eyed creator comes pitching a D&D movie for them? Well, there's Honor Among Thieves, which was a commercial failure. Then there'll be the BG 3 show, which will also be a failure. So getting a D&D movie/show greenlit anytime in the near future is about as likely as you getting into a polyamorous relationship with Shadowheart and Lae'zel.Oh well. At least my favorite YouTubers will have a steady source of bread for a few years, making fun of this shit.>>97508737kek
>>97521146.....BG 3 was already filled with woke stuff. When you can romance any character, regardless of sex, that's pretty much woke by your idiot definition of it.
>>97521174Wrong, dumbass. Wokeness means seeing the world through a lens of imaginary systems of oppression and basing your whole worldview on that. In a woke game, Gortash would have stolen the Steel Watch designs from a genius woman of color. Jaheira's kids would have been young urban scholars. Shadowheart's trans friend would have had a subplot about how the Sharrans tried to memory-wipe her to forcefully suppress her identity, yet they couldn't chain her because she's a woman with massive brass balls. Ketheric would have opposed Isobel's relationship with Aylin because he'd been made into a gay-bashing hater, not because he was possessive of her after her mother's death.Not to mention you've got a bunch of smoking hot babes in your party, all of whom you can have walk around naked 24/7 if you want to. Woke games don't do that.
>>97521246Oh, so you're complaining about social drama in....a serial TV show, something that's been done for decades. Whatever.
>>97521261Since you've chosen to shift the goalposts and purposefully miss the point I was making, I've concluded that you're one of the two people who'll be this show's target audience. Since you're either a gay tranny or a woman, you're not worth talking to.
>>97521146>my favorite YouTubers
>>97521174>BG was woke>romance any character regardless of sexas the dude who invented the Realms intendedeveryone is bisexual in the realms, it's not new, it's always been this way
>>97521722Zoomers (both wokies and zoomer tradcaths) don't know what a degenerate Ed Greenwood is, and just what his original vision for the Forgotten Realms was.
>>97521146Honor Among Thieves was good though and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.
i can't wait for everyone to be an ugly gay darkie and a comically evil and incompetent white male villain
>>97517768This guy's just a massive faggot who ruins every /tg/ thread
>>97522432It was good. And honestly I'm annoyed that it'll never get a sequel because it made 200 million in box office and they expected 500 minimum so they'll never ever make another entry. I liked the sets, I liked the characters, it was just really fun.
>>97510570Today as I sat watching the winter Olympics with my gf, some American dude was getting pumped up for the luge while the announcers said that he’s a big DnD fan and loves to play in his spare time. Then he launched off and shit on the times for all the other countries that went before him. Like it or not, that’s absolutely some new shit anon, an Olympic athlete proclaiming he’s one of us and then immediately delivering a top tier performance in his sport would have been utterly unthinkable a mere decade ago. You cannot deny that.
>>97522432Solid three stars out of five at the very least
>>97523972>>97522432>>97522846Seconding these. HAT was solid with some good here and there.I've seen the other ones. 20 years ago WotC would've killed it with a movie of this quality and immediately greenlit a sequel or two. Today this isn't enough. Look at how Dredd wasn't promoted, "flopped" in cinemas, but then sold almost all DVDs instantly. HAT's failure is of the marketing/strategy kind, not the artistic merit kind.
>>97530880Kind of artistic merit too, but they could have refined it for the sequelAt times it had weirdly unquestioned D&Disms a non-player wouldn't get, while at other times they would explain the smallest detail at length. It also introduced too many D&D things at once to feel entirely coherent.
>>97515760Those plot points are still not as bad as the blatant plot holes.>Why did Vault 32 commit mass suicide? How did Vault 31 not know about this? Who cleaned up Vault 32?
>>97530880Dredd's problem was that it was (IIRC) only shown in 3D and by 2012 people were sick of being charged extra to see shitty 3D effects lazily slapped onto films not designed for it, and the natural assumption was that Dredd would be the same. Turned out it was one of the very few movies that actually does 3D right and it's the best version of the film, but not showing it in 2D at all was one hell of a blunder.
>>97531124>open questions meant to be answered later are plot holesDamn, I always forget HOW stupid you niggers are.
>>97531441Yes, anon, and we are certainly getting answers as to how Moldaver lived this long without access to Enclave vaults (we won't, she won't be ever mentioned again).
>>97523649And yet every day I still see people calling D&D weird and for geeks both in popular culture and in person. So things may have changed a bit, but it's not dispelled the idea that D&D is not cool in the slightest, or at least a very specific form of D&D with the cool kids is cooler than the majority of games where geeky losers play.
>>97531604Nigger, I don't have ADHD so your distraction tactics don't work on me. We'll get more info on the vaults.
>>97531713Lol.
>>97522432The film was mid at best. I will say that Sophia Lillis looked hot as fuck to me in the movie tho.
>>97508662>There is going to be some TV showIdk, don't watch TV or streaming>a lot of fresh blood will enter the hobbyGreat, always good
>>97522432I sincerely wish it wasn't a franchise thing.This could be a stand-alone fantasy movie, but instead it's a tie-in to a game and a franchise (despite not actually using them).So the next fantasy production is going to be also a tie-in, rather than it's own thing.Other than that, was a decent fantasy flick, the solid 3/5. Wish it had either better character arcs or removed character arcs entirely, since they were all awkwardly undercooked.
>>97531614Did you somehow miss the Stranger Things phenomenon? D&D just like anime has become completely acceptable among normies
>>97532097I do hope all the newbies go to you to ask constantly why your game's not like Baldur's Gate the television show then, anon.Cause I don't blame the newbies, but sometimes you just get tired of having to reiterate this isn't Critical roll shit or any of the other podcasts they listen to, this is just your own game that you're running for basically free for them, and they need to work with you on this instead of acting upset you can't be Matt Mercer for them.
>>97532118I haven't seen an actual increase in the number of people playing D&D thanks to Stranger Things, no. I see more random references online, but that's not the same thing.
>>97532127You can find D&D sold in normal bookshops these days
>>97532147Honestly, that doesn't mean much, cause I bought my D&D 3.5 player manual from a Barnes & Noble years ago.
>>97532123>I do hope all the newbies go to you to ask constantly why your game's not like Baldur's Gate the television show then, anon.I run an open table in the local library every Wednesday and every other Saturday, specifically aimed at newfags and people who want to start out playing RPGs or check out a new systemSo... thanks?>>97532127Nta, but it's somewhere in the middle. On one hand, ST didn't translate into direct player increase. On the other, it became significantly easier to explain people who never played what RPG is via a reference.
>>97532147So... just like always?The only time DnD wasn't sold everywhere (gas stations included) was the late 90s, when TSR was already bankrupt and WotC didn't publish their own edition yet
>>97532155You're welcome. Cause like I said, I've nothing personal with newbies, but I'm just beyond tired of the ones that sit there and don't even try to play. I can work with nervous people who aren't used to speaking up, I can work with people who have problems remembering basic facets on games, I can work with people with poor attention spans that need reminders on what the hell is going on, I can even work with wallflowers that want to just mostly follow along with the rest of the players' plans. But the people who keep going "That's not how Matt would do it" or "This isn't like how Critical Roll" does it while sitting there like fucking lumps and refuse to meet me halfway I just can't work with, and I dread more newbies of the same useless sort coming to me.
>>97532154>>97532161In my country you could only ever find rpgs in game stores, now in the last decade they are everywhere
>>97532176>But the people who keep going "That's not how Matt would do it" or "This isn't like how Critical Roll" does it while sitting there like fucking lumps and refuse to meet me halfway I just can't work with, and I dread more newbies of the same useless sort coming to me.Oh, you meant thatIt's very easy to handle in my experience.I always tell people that I never saw it, and if they could describe me what's off and missing. They usually do, and I invite them the next game (usually there are a sitting rules, so the same people aren't every Wednesday). Then I run on them any given pulp system of my choice (since that's usually how they describe CR) and they are having a blast.Because while I could start watching it, I'm in this hobby long enough to know people don't want games "just like in X" or "the way Y does it". They instead feed me their wish-list, without knowing this is a wish list and then said wishes get fulfilled the next week.It's all very, very easy and pretty pleasing to both sides, since I have always a challenge to tailor the game for their desires. Actual desires, rather than aping someone else or wasting my time watching some series or podcast or whatever.The proper attitude is the key. I pity anyone who considers running games a busywork, for it has to be dreadful.t. never saw a single CR episode, I only "know" it via players descriptions and /tg/ shitposting.>>97532178Well, hurray for you, then - and I mean it. There never were gaming stores to begin with in my country - despite having a robust hobby scene for 40 years - until GW launched their licensed stores like... last year? And there are only 4 of those, in four largest cities.
>>97532212>t. never saw a single CR episode, I only "know" it via players descriptions and /tg/ shitposting.Same. I can guess that those particular types that keep asking me to do it "like Matt would" only want to be there for the quirky character interactions and not the rest of the actual game, since they just stare at me like sheep the rest of the time. And I'd be fine with that if they just say that outright when I'm asking what they want, instead of making me have to basically run the rest of the game myself. Cause then maybe I'd just change out D&D for something like one of the PBTA spinoffs so they can have their quirky chungus convos and I need to book keep less. But alas.It does make me grateful for my normal table, since they aren't remotely like that, though I do dread a flood of more of those types. I'm a bit too old and cynical to be super extra patient with people that actively feel like they're fighting against me to get the game they want, and I feel kind of bad about that.
The last thing I want to see is a show featuring the Baldur's Gate party as characters. They're all way too narratively busy. This also screams "BG3 was popular, make show about it, show also popular, make money"as opposed to"I want to tell a story that's straight out of a D&D campaign, because I have a great idea for one and I love the genre"Really, I want Honor Among Thieves again, but with different characters, and as a show. Unfortunately, it HAS to be set in the Forgotten Realms.
>>97508662The only thing that makes me warry is the gay beastality shit.
>>97532244What bothers me is the utter lack of humility from these people >I just heard of this game last year. I have no creative soul or sense of narrative, yet I know exactly how a game should be run and what I will enjoy.They're like kissless virgins with strongly-held opinions on which sex acts they like and don't like.
>>97521146>D&D fans would surely love to see more D&D media outside of novels and games.Who told you this lie?
>>97508813The unfortunate thing is that Eberron exists as a subversion of typical fantasy RPG settings, and thanks to trends those subversions exist in every fantasy setting whether or not it needed them.Eberron isn't special anymore, because everything is a retarded version of eberron.
>>97522432It was ok, very ok in fact. I'm sure if I was less of a chud I would like it more but it clearly wasn't made to appeal to me and so it didn't.
>>97522846>I liked the charactersThe tiefling was incredibly annoying, I could fix her though.
>>97532937I could see that.
>>97532885Exactly. A good chunk of them leave once they realize that it's a game, not a storytime, and that they need to give the GM a lot more input than just sit there and roll a d20 every so often to make their grand vision come true.
>>97532244If a player is non-active, give them a spotlight or at the very least nudge them into action. Remember, this is their first/less than 10th time playing at all. They literally have no clue. And because they only saw some podcast about gaming prior, they don't know it takes to be active on both sides of the table, since, again, they were watching.And watching is passive.So you have people that have specific sets of expectations, but also have no idea they need to contribute.Instead of getting pissed at them, it's way easier to engage them, especially vis-a-vis their expectations, but still doing your own game here.The only thing I dread is the sort of dryspell like the mid-to-late 00s. That was a period when the hobby was in really bad shape and there was barely any fresh blood, country-wide, and the persisting style of play was also awful, further driving people away.How bad that was?I was GLAD hipsters decided that RPGs look more hip than other entertainment and flooded the hobby. Because suddenly there was four times as many people, and almost all of them fresh or having at best familiarity with cRPGs.Any food of players is good. A dryspell is what's concerning.>>97532885But that's just Dunning-Kruger in action. And they are new, so it's more than expected they will latch to whatever brought them to your table. This has nothing to do with being humble or not.I mean I run once to people who's only prior experience with RPG was playing Ultima Online. Now THAT was something, since they were approaching everything like they would in an MMO, but also this being Ultima, it wasn't the sort of MMO behaviour you normally get, as they were putting extra effort into playing their characters as actual members of the game's world.
>>97532937I mean weren’t all the other settings subversive in some way since Forgotten Relams and Greyhawk were the standard boilerplate worlds and they wanted to sell something differentDark Sun was pretty much take popular fantasy trope and do the opposite with it
>>97532885>They're like kissless virgins with strongly-held opinions on which sex acts they like and don't like.>I like tits>NOOOO YOU HAVENT HAD ENOUGH SEX TO KNOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY A PERVERT LIKE ME>HERE PUT THIS IN YOUR PEE HOLEidk if this analogy works as well as you may have thought.
>>97532937I'd still like to see them do Eberron, but it's never going to happen for the same reason GW never strays too far from spess mareens. They want the broadest possible audience and that means using all the basic bitch entry-level material without any non-standard features that might scare customers off.
>>97533191But Eberron subverted in the direction of modernity, which is a bad direction to go in these days, because it brings us closer to #currentyear.Forgotten Realms somehow got turned into the 202X Bay Area by the current playerbase, it'd be much worse with Eberron. Also, they'll bring in Tieflings; Eberron doesn't need Tieflings.
>>97533192I'm thinking in particular of a mentally-unwell chick I briefly knew who kept a list of all the fetishes and exotic acts she was into (Eifel towering, mindfucking, it was all pornhub tags) and wouldn't stop talking about them no matter how much you tried to change the subject, but had an anxiety attack at the prospect of kissing a guy.
>>97532944As far as tieflings go, she was singularly un-annoying. Note she was a 3.5-style tiefling born to human parents, not the nu-style sparklejews.
>>97509192>holds up sporkThe more things change...
>>97509192removed the left-most and right-most, and you got a fun buddy-cop (and loads of gay porn) show.
>>97533184>Instead of getting pissed at them, it's way easier to engage them, especially vis-a-vis their expectations, but still doing your own game here.It's less pissed at them specifically and more tired of trying to work with the ones that adamantly refuse to change their approach in favor of just demanding the GM change how they're playing to cater to them. Again, I've played with plenty of people who just aren't used to gaming whether it's mechanics or how the game functions, and they usually come around fine. People who need some sessions to get used to how D&D works or just need some aids is fine. Like say if someone needs help remembering how their spells work or how to add their bonuses together, you can make a cheat sheet for them. Or if they forget details about the story or their mission, you can just help summarize what their character would know That's what "meet halfway" means. It's fine and rather easy to accommodate for the ones who are trying their best but not quite getting it. It's harder to work with the ones who feel like they're actively resisting any attempts to teach them, i.e. or refusing to read the game rules and leaning on the GM to remember everything, or claiming the GM is "targeting them" whenever the dice roll against them, or refusing to tell the GM if they have an issue and then shittalking the game behind their back.
>>97508662It's just another D&D inspired shit, Warhammer Is way more diverse
>>97508662Fucking awful news. I hate the way the world is going.
>>97508751She was already kinda ugly bro, not really any way to make it a loss.
>>97520074>There are so many endings that Larian said that not every single one has even been played through.You are a dumbass. A real room temp IQ sort of fella. You probably think Fallout 3 also has over 200 endings as well.
>>97522432As someone that saw it in theatres twice I'm kind of sad it didn't do commercially well.
>>97508662I hope WOTC swindles HBO and embezzles most of it for their own stuff and makes a super low effort show.
>>97521146>>97521364But you never said he's wrong.The people mocking it will be the only winners in this mess. >>97522432Amen Brother
>>97508662It's gonna be a part of weird shit, but weird shit that looks human (no monsters / anything interesting). Human but gay, elf but female, and a black elf, a Hispanic Orc and a blue humanoid of some sort and bestiality. And they're gonna make it political and gay (the free space on the bingo card) and "What if the good guys were actually bad, and what if the bad guys were actually good?"
>>97520051My best friend was born in 2003 and he played Drizzt clones on and off until high school. The guy still loves the books even if I broke his soul when I told him what Drizzt's canonical height is. I tried the first book in the series before going back to Heinlein.
>>97531438Can obviously only speak for myself but during that time I was in the cinema constantly. Never saw a trailer or teaser for Dredd. No articles on the geek sites I used at the time. Rented it on DVD on a whim. Am glad I did.
>>97522741No, that faggots like >>97508674, fagtard
>>97521146>This is going to flop, HARDThe same retarded thing was said about BG3, dumbass.>>97521246All that to tell everyone that those who cry about the woke boogeyman are retards.
>>97508728Ah yes. Nothing happens. Tabletop games are, after all, famous for just ending on a clean note with no new adventure appearing on the horizon.
>>97508662No because IDPD&D
>>97509192The only way I'd accept this is if they introduce these characters with this songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgSHL7efKg
>>97539172>>This is going to flop, HARD>The same retarded thing was said about BG3, dumbass.Woke faggots latch parasitically on to a popular IP and make a version seeped in their far left pedo politics.Gee, that's never happened before, I wonder if it will succeed.
>>97535356>And they're gonna make it political and gay (the free space on the bingo card) and "What if the good guys were actually bad, and what if the bad guys were actually good?"The bad guy will be a blond white male fighter Local Lord who says "Hey, this freakshit party is trying to open our borders to orcs and also abolish private property which means the peasants will starve in one year from lack of incentive to work. And they want to legalize raping kids. I'm going to stop them."
>>97508674Based and correct.
>>97540277Modern TTRPGs infamously have world-ending stakes rather than local stakes, which inherently lead to railroading by making any form of exploration equivalent to surrender.
>>97543233And you’ve personally played enough of those to know that for sure, right? Cause it kind of runs contradictory to a lot of fa/tg/uys complaints how most modern ttrpgs are low stakes feel-good comfy vests about sitting around talking about feelings instead of grand epic adventures
>>97543360Those are 2 separate axes, fa/tg/uys in those cases are complaining about narrativist games while I am complaining about overly vidya-esque plots. I have played in a game where, while each of the existing villains could theoretically make the setting uninhabitable (or apply their magical domain over the entire setting, which would be dystopian but recoverable) if allowed to win, the villainous forces were not aligned with each other (alignment existed, but it did not guarantee alliances), and they were fought by military battles (it was a LARP with detailed rules and probably a 3-digit nonconcurrent playerbase) rather than chosen ones who always arrive in the nick of time to stop the prophesized ritual. Players chose what missions to go on, and some of them were unrelated to the main enemy forces, and there were cases where we lost battles which resulted in serious negative changes to the setting, but it was just the fantasy version of losing a war. Baldur's Gate, in contrast, has a JRPG-like escalation to fighting an eldritch god (not literally, but the netherbrain arguably has more agency than actual gods) that would enslave the entire forgotten realms if not defeated, but you can't send more than 4 of your characters directly against it at once.
>>97532839>This also screams "BG3 was popular, make show about it, show also popular, make money"Yeah, that a not a good sign for anything>Unfortunately, it HAS to be set in the Forgotten Realms.I has the same thought. D&D has a bunch of neat settings and they go with the popular one because they think it will make them money.
>>97542858Yes, you are retarded, nogames, and smell like old socks.
>>97542923More like wrong and stupid like you.
>>97521146bg 3 already has gay bestiality options, it's basically wokeslop already. and this series will do well because the fucking Critters will slurp it up just like they do that Vox Machina garbage
>>97544568>bg 3 already has gay bestiality options, it's basically wokeslop already. and this series will do well because the fucking Critters will slurp it up just like they do that Vox Machina garbageI didn't play it but my impression is that it's 90% normal with a fairly light sprinkling of faggotry over top. There's definitely a tipping point where the WokeSlop takes over and ruins everything, but it seems like they didn't go overboard. That makes it perfectly ripe for a Redditor/WoTC takeover to ruin it. Contrary to brainless anti-woke takes, the mere presence of, say, a homo fucking a bear doesn't make the entire game bad. It's easy to ignore that in a 100 hour game. What the anti-woke get correct is basic pattern recognition. If you know nothing about a game and it features a homo fucking a bear while being watched by a "1000 year old elf who just happens to look like a child", the reasonable assumption is "this game hired far left freakshitters, far left freakshitters can't produce a good game to save their lives, and letting in one freakshitters is one rotten apple that ruins the barrel."However it seems BG3 is a rare exception where the people in charge caved in and allowed some freakshit without letting it take over. That's good, but recent history has shown the NEXT iteration of the IP is almost guaranteed to show the rot has spread much further.
>>97544471D&D had a bunch of neat settings.The 5e revivals of everything outside of Barovia is less developed than alien planets in the original Star Trek. Spelljammer doesn't include ships, Planescape doesn't include the factions, Dragonlance doesn't include the religious macroplot. They either didn't bother to check the source material or they are actively trying to take away all identity and specialization. And it could totally be the second option because the selling point of modern FR is that you don't actually need to know anything about the setting to use it.
>>97544652perverted stuff isn't woke or antiwoke, tons of furries are right wingers. There are even right wing themed furry conventions. BG3 is woke slop because the good option is saving refugees while the evil option is racial extermination.
>>97544769>BG3 is woke slop because the good option is saving refugees while the evil option is racial extermination.That's why leftists hate Frieren
>>97544769>Doing good things is good and doing bad things is bad makes game wokeMan, I can already imagine your face if you ever played Fallout 1 and 2
>>97545928I never said I though that way, I was explaining where the culture war chose to fight the game.I've been here since before Epstein bought M00t to open /pol/
>>97545298I’m a leftist. I don’t hate Frieren.
>>97509495Black Isle had no involvement with BG 3 either.Larian can't skinwalk and then complain about others skinwalking.Bhaalspawn Saga was over with BG 2 expansion. Period.
>>97547352Sorry, chuddie, it wasn't. Sorry that it upsets you. Wait, no, not sorry.
>>97508662Some things should of been gate kept
>>97508684>are you excited?>no>wow why are you saying that, nobody asked
>>97545298I think they "Frieren is a nazi" shit was done by a very retarded minority because that thing didn't got any bigger than a few posts here and ther. Well reddit definitely believes it, but they're irrelevant crazies
>>97548499Leftist breadtubers and Redditors outside the specific anime subs hate Frieren and say she's a racist chud.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi8ZhcGD4uo
>>97548727>Leftist breadtubers and RedditorsAka a pretty retarded minority
>>97521261Ha! You got nothing. Just another libtard NPC who has to pretend to not understand things.
>>97522432Did you like his ugly black wife? Or the subplot where the barbarian women was married to an ultra-feminine halfling? Or the metro-sexual paladin?Some of the action scenes were dope, and the dnd fan service was on point.The marvel humor was cringe.It was mid, and it made mid money.
>>97548727>>97548792I just learned about this.They hate it because it promotes genocide… of human eating demons.Just when I thought that ideology couldn’t get more pathetic.
>>97549267It presents the majority of demons as generally sentient, their urge to eat and kill humans as a redundant evolutionary instinct rather than a necessity, they show attachment between themselves, and hints that there are demons that are interested in humans and want to better understand and get along with them. So they basically get inside their own heads that the writer is presenting "another ontologically evil race" and thus scream racism because.Mainly because they ignore that the actual story presents it as a bit more complicated than just "they're evil just because", since the demon in question that actually wants to better understand human was the Demon King that Himmel the Hero's party fought against, and he's described as an aberration in a species of sociopaths that barely registers other species as worth considering and kills them for personal amusement. And in his case, it's more like grasping he really doesn't understand why humans keep congregating with each other or why they keep rising up against demons, so he routinely kept performing genocides to understand human emotions in the coldest most scientific way possible for a demon. Basically, they're pissed at the writer for Friefen taking a hardline stance against empathizing with demons, when it's more along the lines of Goblin Slayer's reaction to the question of "what if good goblins exist", that being "I won't disregard the possibility, but until I see it with my own eyes I'm not taking any chances". Demons aren't so much evil as they are incompatible with fantasy civilization. That and while it's hinted at that there's a chance one "good" aka passive demon may show up one day, nobody wants to wait however many millennia it takes for one to show up with all the others genociding humans like a kid holding a magnifying glass over an ant hill.
>>97549267>>97549375you keep saying they when it was one youtuber who didn't watch the showJust stop, you're not fighting anyone that exists. You're argumenting to the void. There's no one to convince of anything. I get the enjoyment of finding agreement online over something, it's more rare than it should be, but making up shit so you can agree that it's wrong is schizo.
>>97549388Nah, I've seen plenty of weirdos getting themselves in a tizzy over on reddit on those exact preconceptions. It's fine if you haven't seen it personally, but don't get upset that other people have experienced things you haven't. It's okay, anon.
>>97549404sounds like you're making an effort to get mad thenjust don't put your hand on the stove and you'll be fine
>>97549420Definitely not mad, just chatting on an imageboard here. No need to assign emotions to me today, I'm good bro.
>>97508662Not really.I mostly like pre 4e dnd lore.The experience people have with these characters also wildly different, since you have so many choices and interact with them differently, making a tv show with them specifically sets it in stone what is canon and not, and I genuinely think it's disrespectful to the source material and the people who engage with it.There's a lot of potential with dnd adaptions though, so maybe there's some hope. My hope mostly is that this is successful enough that it inspires other stories. Very small hope. Like the prince of thieves dnd movie was pretty good.
>>97549388>you keep saying they when it was one youtuber who didn't watch the showThere are tons of them. The reason they got beat down so quickly is Frieren is super-popular among the japs, and the woke currently get crushed when they're opposed by both the western anti-woke and the chinks and/or japs. Check twitter for the latest stupidity about some Overwatch voice actor dingbat smugly attention whoring "my character design looks too young that's misogynistic". The troons and leftists and furries all gave her the Yas Qween treatment, then she got steamrolled by Chinese netizens who actually play the game and said shut up you fat western whore.
>>97549424I'm not saying you're mad right now, just that you go looking for things no one cares about and then repeat them as if they were something affecting anything.
>>97549388>it's not happening>>97549420>okay it's happening but you shouldn't carehmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>97549706Not for nothing, but you seem like you're pretty mad yourself. Why else would you devote this much time to nagging some autist on /tg/ over something you claim nobody cares about?
>>97549721It do be like that.
>>97549242Yes, /pol/tards have nothing inside their heads.
>>97549689>derp durr
>>97548499>>97548727People who call Frieren racist (either as a positive or a negative) are on the same level as people who wanted Aura to be redeemed/forced into being a good guy by the Scales; they fundamentally do not understand that the demons are monsters devoid of empathy. Lugner literally says he doesn't know what a father is after using the word to manipulate Graf Granit's emotions, but they could totally have become besties with Aura, the mistress of an army of headless corpses. I would say that the second season will clarify this but people will either continue not to get the difference between demons and real sentient races... or they'll be distracted by the new demon slut.
>>97508662Does anyone still care about DnD? I mean D&D ONE/5.5/25 bombed, they lost the studio that DID Baldur's Gate 3, and no one trusts anything WOKE Shit they going to throw in the show. I mean the movie tanked and it wasn't even that woke. You know they GAY it up to make it tank harder than that one gay star trek show that lost it's premiere to someone livestreaming his Spock action figure on a chair the same time it came out. Got more likes too. I just hope someone that isn't fucking woke can make the new DND that everyone just to over WOKE DND like Pathfinder was to 4e.
>>97510733>the warforgeds think that voting for the government to have control over compelled speech will never backfire on themJar Jar Tin-ks
>>97508684based
>>97522432TRVKE
>>97508662>BG3 pandering>last of us showrunner
>>97521146>there's Honor Among Thieves, which was a commercial failure.It was a moderate success. It didn't generate huge profits but probably recouped its costs. And that was from box office before it became a hit on streaming services. Films don't have to generate huge box office profits to be successful. They have to advertise IPs, create cross-marketing opportunities, and generate tax write-offs. That's why it'll get a TV series. It broke $200 million on a $150 million budget just off the box office. It did better than you think.
>>97556042>. It broke $200 million on a $150 million budget just off the box office. It did better than you think.sorry dummy, but typical break even is 2.5x budget. 150m doesn't include marketing, and you have to give 50% of sales to the movie theatre. $200m on a $375m break even is a massive steaming flop. And no, streaming on Netflix or some such gay site won't change anything, they'd be lucky to get $3m for a year long deal.
>>97508662>Last of us>HBOCan we...please have less Pedro Pascal, please?
>>975224320/10 no elves
>>97509620>all writers who worked with them during the production of Bg3 we're fired by Hasbrobased, bunch of talentless hacks
Watch it be shit, just you wait
>>97508662>Are you excitedWhen people enter a fandom from an adaptation, they always assume what they know is the truth, that the adaptation is a fully accurate representation of the material, or they think that because they like the adaptation's version more, that it takes precedence over the source, that it's "how it should be." That always leads to stupid arguments and infighting.
