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>>97514619>What's the most horrific act you've ever personally committed in a Chronicle?i wiped out the last Bubasti kinfolk just because a Bubasti said i wouldn't dare
>>97514670They were asking for it if you ask me.
>>97514619Please post an image at least tangentially related to the thread next time. Nothing about that is relevant to any iteration of WoD.
>>97514619My ST decided to introduce a "low-level" vampire hunter to our Chronicle. A cheerleader at some loacl high school found out about the supernatural blah blah. A Buffy expy, basically. After a few encounters and some investigation, we found out she had a boyfriend, where he lived, and more importantly, where she lived. That session, we decided to ambush her house, but not before kidnapping her boyfriend. After subduing and tying her up, we proceeded to torture and mutilate her whole family and boyfriend, forcing her to watch. ST tried to intervene by having the Buffy expy's mentor show up and stop us. But the dice were hot that night and we smoked his ass in a couple of turns. Our Brujah player then had the bight idea to desecrate the mentor's corpse by playing a game of impromptu Operation in front of our would-be adversary. With the buzzes and everything, the sick bastard lol. After a couple of turns of that, we were debating how to finish off the night's fun. A quick interrogation with Dominate revealed that our Buffy's will STILL wasn't broken. So instead of just ending it with a bullet to the head, we decided to Embrace, stake her, and let our Diablerist player have at it. I described that my Toreador was cumming blood during that whole ordeal. Next time our ST introduced hunters, he just brought in a bunch of Society of Leopold veterans lmao. That encounter DIDN'T go well for coterie. C'est la vie.We were Anarchs btw
>>97514642>Actively maintaining a partial transformation>Addicted to a substance of man>Steel plugged in thereWEAVER WHORE
>>97514642Nay, I shant waste an ounce of seed on some lowly Sauriod harlot. My penis is solely dedicated to the Garou Nation in pleasuring tight Garou pussy ONLY.
>>97514743>Doesn't know weaver only accepts humans in her perfect worldLiterally NGMI
>>97514757This is your brain on kinfolk kool-aid.
>Not having Life, Mind and Prime to make your own perfect waifuImagine being unenlightened
>>97514722Highest humanity Anarch players, I've seen Sabbat with better morals
>>97514619fleshcrafted a dead kid unto his mother after killing the rest of the family because she wouldn't tell us where she had blackmail files hidden that would reveal a bishop's ghoul and set back our operations in the city and after she told us where the files been another player chocked her to death with her own kid's innards... poor women didn't even know about the supernatural, but our ventrue botched the dominate roll
>>97514980Better keep her restricted to a horizon realm otherwise you and her are both going to get fried by Paradox.
>>97515002Jesus Christ.Did you at least attempt mundane torture before leaping to bodyhorror shit?
>>97515047>"Mage-kun, I wanna come with you, but I'm dummy thicc and the clap of my asscheeks is triggering Paradox Backlash."
>>97514722>Vampires will tell you there're not evil right before doing shit like thisAbsolute evil kino
>>97514980you also need Spirit if you want her to be able to awaken
>>97514980>Not being a member of the supreme convention and paying some Progenitor nerds to do all that for youAnd they say money can't buy you happines, bunch of superstitionalist nonsense.>>97515259Letting a woman spend your money is bad enough. Why would you let her spend your primal energy?
>tfw you'll never convince your drunk Fianna bro to suck your dick and let you fuck his ass>tfw he'll never refuse to talk about it after and get embarrassed and have to make rage rolls if you bring it up>tfw the next time he's drunk he'll never pounce on you because he wants moreGuys.. I'm entering harano.
>>97515206for some reason a random investigative journalist had willpower 10
>>97515047>>97515234This is why all the good Mages gaslight their own emotionally vulnerable Metis into a relationship
>>97515325You have to an Ahroun to unlock that part of the Garou experience anon.
Thoughts on Nuwisha (werecoyotees)?
>>97515446white wolfs trickster archetypes are in my eyes the most cringe parts of the setting and i like most of the other gonzo 2e shit, but Nuwisha, (fish) Malkavians, Ravnos and Pooka all make me roll my eyes and skip ahead whenever they show up in that role
>>97515473Pooka are fun though
>>97514722Based as fuck. This is what will happen to all hunters including the Second Inquisition self-insertert LARPers.
>>97515506I won't fall for your obvious lies, Pooka!
>>97514619>What's the most horrific act you've ever personally committed in a Chronicle?Played an Antiquarian Darkling of the Autumn Court in a Changeling the Lost chronicle, back in 1e. The motley discovered a Loyalist conspiracy to serve up the entire freehold to the Gentry on a silver platter, but it wasn't taken seriously, due to the freehold being pretty dysfunctional and led by a very influential Queen of Winter who refused to relinquish her post with the passing of seasons. So, my character decided to play up the threat of the Gentry and make it seem like an attack was more imminent than it really was, by imitating them and leaving their calling cards everywhere. This involved researching a lot of local legends and doing a lot of heinous shit.The worst of the bunch was Granny Dotty, an withered old witch who stole away spoiled children to teach them proper discipline. To prevent them from running back to their parents, she would cut off their hands and feet and bake them into a pie that she left for their family. There was no hard evidence that Granny Dotty actually existed, even as a True Fae, but that didn't stop my character from doing some copycat shenanigans in order to strike fear into the heart of the freehold.Three missing children, three meat pies and one state-wide media frenzy later, the freehold was in open revolt against the Winter Queen and ready to take a stand against the Gentry and their Loyalists.My guy didn't make it to the climax of the chronicle, unfortunately. He hit Clarity 0 for obvious reasons and was put down by the rest of the motley, once they found out what he had done. They never told the rest of the freehold though.
>the OwOd removed from titleShill thread?
>>97515446They don't have enough to give shit about.
>>97515531You'll change your time after some rabbit and wolf girls, don't you worry.
>>97515446pretty much only exist so that they can feature Old Man Manyskins in other books, but given that nobody talks about it you can guess how beloved he is in the fandom
>>97514619>What's the most horrific act you've ever personally committed in a Chronicle?Shark once tore apart a nurse and a doctor in a particularly crowded hospital because those two saw my Giovanni coterie member breaking the Masquerade.Also murdered multiple cops, and hung the headless corpse of one of them on a swing in a park for their buddies to find. While munching on the head in the shadows like the juiciest and crunchiest apple.
>>97514619I dont play horrific monsters. I play characters that sort of lead you to choose your own road to hell, while being seemingly nice. Like, we came across this one lady who had been fleshcrafted by an Earthbound we were hunting to look like the person we were hunting for, the Earthbound had done this to a handful of people to create false leads. So this lady is freaking out & I tell her, she can work for me, I'll give her a job & what other & I'll even find a way to fix her face, but she has to serve me & never look back. And that's what I did. Eventually I fleshcrafted her a new body, one that didn't even look like her original self though I offered, she wanted to be hotter. She became very loyal to my character because he led her that way. Eventually she was doing things like killing other ghouls, enforcing my will, & blackmailing others like I thought her.
>>97515561paranoia to that extent is an exhaustive way to live your life anon. oWoD was only ever necessary when people were still calling CofD the nWoD.
>>97515561i thought it was the opposite. bloodlines 2 flopped wod5 might as well be dead and nobody is going to talk about it so why mention that it even existed
It's February and there's no new HtP or Wizard Game drop because of the Swedish Kroner. Fuck Sweden
>>97515676>V5 Is death About that, what are the chances that Paradox just sits on its ass doing nothing with the IP ever again and letting it die, not even just selling it to another soulless corpo, just letting it die. In this case the only solution would be making our own WoD and publishing it to the public.
>>97515697they could actually do something worse they could do it like how fantasy flight was done in by having the parent company just upload dept and unprofitable ips to the company and then cut it off
>>97515697>>97515703Haven't they already started work on Mage 5? That was next on the agenda. Might be too late to cancel that one, but yeah odds are Paradox sits on the IP for free income like a greedy dragon and then sells when someone desperate or rich comes along. Or when Paradox makes another 40-50 million dollar blunder as they tend to do.
>Ventrue:"Hey darling, would you mind dancing for me?">Tzimisce:"PERISH IN HELLFIRE, REPROBATE! I AM THE TYRANT OF THE NIGHT! My armour is like tenfold shields, my teeth are swords, my claws spears, and my breath death. I SHALL NOT SIMP FOR SOME UPSTART HARLOT!">Salubri:"Hi, can you dance for me, please? :3">Tzimisce"Right away, sweetheart"
>>97515739The last news about that was Achilli saying "I wrote some ideas for it on a paper napkin last night while I was out at a restaurant" three or four years ago, which was before he quit due to the "Fianna is just a word" gaff.
>>97515739Jason Carl said last year they want to start working on it as soon as possible, so it sounds like they haven't started at that point.
>>97515752>>97515777Checked, thank god Mage is safe for now
>>97515752>>97515777Checked, unfortunate that magefags will not feel defiled for the time being
>>97515446>Thoughts on Nuwisha (werecoyotees)?Rapeable, breedable and marketable. In that order.
>>97515856I'm curious what your thoughts are on the rest of the Fera now
>>97515871Rapeable, breedable and marketable. In that order.
>>97515856>>97515879>how about vampires?
>>97515748Dragonchads would not dance for Salubri harlots without proper payment
>>97515887Rapeable, breedable and marketable. In that order.
>>97515897Their existence is a payment on its own
In a theoretical sixth edition of the World of Darkness that is just 20th Anniversary with some minor rules adjustments and lore adjustments to make the setting make more sense for the current year, should there be any metaplot progression? Should there be any significant events that dramatically change the status quo, or should the World of Darkness maintain the same cast of characters who remain in the same positions that they were in during the 20th Anniversary period? Where do you draw the line, when does a logical and sensible change that makes sense within the context of the present day become too significant of a change that disrupts the setting more than it should?
>we were all Anarchs btw
>>97515927For me personally, I wish that Tzimisce will keep their Dragon/Covetous control freak image instead of fleshcraft obsessed cringe in the previous versions, and will keep Dominate instead of Auspex, but will have Vicissitude as an independent discipline instead of ProteanMake shapeshifting great again
Dark Ages or Modern Nights?
>>97514722>We were Anarchs btwMore proof that Anarchs are just secular Sabbat.
For Dark Ages: Fae is it better to just use the original Dark Ages books, or try and use it with DA Vampire 20th Anniversary Edition.
>>97515927Killing off the stuff that I hate is good, killing off the stuff that I like is bad.V6 would be extremely based if it destroyed the Anarchs and the Brujah and the Settites and the Ravnos and the Giovanni and the Assamites and the Animalism Discipline, for example. No one would cry over that.
>>97516097>Least deranged Tzimisce decor
>>97516068Dark Ages > Wild West/1800s/1900/s > Modern Nights (1970-2008) > power gap >>>>>> "Modern" (V5) Nights>>97515927>Should there be metaplot progressionYes but actually no. So Hunter X Hunter does a very cool thing where the timeline is actually on a rolling progression with the current year in reality. So characters go from having flip phones (98) to smart phones (2020) despite less than a year passing in-setting. So, metaplot can and should happen, but metaplot should always be the current thing happening right now instead of "The world ended in 2006 lol". I also think certain situations like the y2k and 2012 should probably be adapted into their own sideplots. Simply lore should be written as the writers want for the story at any point and to flesh it out, and it just doesn't affect the setting because it always happens at the end of the current year or something.
>>97516110>SkeleHarp, play Cadenza on repeat until my meeting with the Tremere Primogen is done.
>>97516110Indeed it is quite artistic, even better if it's automated.
>>97515692This semester on... Hunter: the Parenting.>Kitten and D are STILL in the Chapterhouse, this time meeting all of the "Coalition" guys. It's mostly just the Pentex characters we already met, as well as a single Society of Leopold hunter, who is basically an avatar of every writer's resentment at having to go to church as a kid. >Kevin and Guy are still off doing side-plots. This time it's actually paying off the "Kevin's sister is still looking for him" plot they set up way back in the police station.>Marckus wakes up in a Werewolf Cairn and every single member of the werewolf's pack gets introduced in painstaking detail. The video is 2 hours long.
>>97515927>should there be any metaplot progression?No, fuck no. The metaplot sucked in the very early 2000s. Even a crack team of genius writers couldn't concoct a satisfying metaplot for people as embittered and divided as today.
>>97516223>meeting with the coalition guysHow can this video possibly compare to 5.3?>Kevin sisterBased>More woofsI'd honestly rather wait for 6 7 to actually meet the Garou.
NWODor as I like to call them nig-
>>97516223bold of you to assume they won't introduce 10 more new characters like they do with each new episode
>>97516239It's honestly impressive how grounded the first arc was, every character used was introduced in the first chapter.
>>97516223>This time it's actually paying offNah, they'll get one step closer then finish it after 3 more episodes
>>97516247With Kevin and Chapman so disconnected from the gang I'm actually kind of surprised they don't just give them their own series
I thought Ratkin were supposed to be genocidal plague-spreading wyld cultist dollar store skaven. This archetype is just an honorable-ish assassin.
HtP is the new Lost. The ending is gonna be super unsatisfying due to all the hype about the 5 million loose ends.
>>97516261They don't do enough rape and cannibalism to be Skaven, or have enough beef with midgets. Every Fera is a bit of an honorfag anyway because that's just the way their society is built so they don't game the system and murder-rape-kill each other and the humans.
>>97516232So the setting should remain static, with all of the same factions and the same characters and the same everything existing forever as they are, without any progress, even if that progress makes sense considering the current state of the world?
>>97516261Why did you think that every single Ratkin was identical? Did you read that they're mass-produced at a factory somewhere?
>>97516237Ever since the Kevin has a sister looking for him plot got introduced, my roommate and I had this hope that she'd be Kevin's complete opposite. Bright, always-happy, bubbly gigastacy. Probably not the route they'd go, if they still remember that plotline. But the contrast of miserable, bitter, sad sack Kevin and his perfect sister with a perfect life would be hilarious and a good contrast. >>97516239>>97516246I think the character bloat is partially a side-effect of the plot bloat. The real breaking point for me was the werewolf introduction. They'd already introduced a shitload of characters for the Arcanum, but that was fine in a vacuum. The plot was, at the outset, self-contained. Find the ghoul, move on to the next lead after. Anyone who doesn't die during the murder mystery unfolding will be put on the backburner at best or moved on from at worst. I don't know if the werewolf rug-pull was always the intention or something they decided during the lead-up to the Arcanum arc, but it really killed the show's momentum because now there's a whole other host of characters to introduce BUT we're still not done with Arcanum shenanigans. One could still be more efficient with their characters and time following these plot beats, mind you, but it certainly doesn't help.>>97516255>they don't just give them their own seriesWhen you're struggling to put out one series, you probably don't wanna start doing spin-offs. They had to cancel that half-life project because putting it and HtP out at the same time was beyond their abilities, so they went with the one getting more views.
>>97516293I don't think you know what a metaplot is. By all means, have some fluff lines mentioning the changes between then and now. Tell us about new hunting strategies, potential masquerade concerns, masquerade solutions, rising tensions between x and y. But for the love of god leave the metaplot in the dust. I don't care what Sascha Vykos is doing in 2026. I don't wanna hear about what domains have canonically switched from one sect to another. I certainly don't want to read about what giga-Elder Super Theo Bell somehow slumped recently, or if Jan Pieterzoon is experimenting to see if new definitions of rape can sate his blood requirement. You can acknowledge that time has passed and the night-to-night of Kindred might change alongside it, provide potential plot hooks or resources for running a game set in the modern modern nights. But for the love of god spare us all the retarded, grandiose overtures and smashing together named characters like action figures. V20 was largely a metaplotless edition and it was by in large quite popular. At the ass end of its run it made a metaplot book, BJD. It was easily the worst V20 book, period. You can have a setting without a constantly updating metaplot.
>>97516311>plot bloatYeah. I'm not going to lie the surprise werewolf and Markus kidnapping are fine in a vacuum but if they happened during 4 instead of 5 we would probably have had much more reasonable a scale. 4 and half of 5 was actually pretty grounded and used the characters well, but clearly the cast has to double to make a satisfying conclusion to adding an entirely new splat and conflict. I don't hate the werewolf stuff but it either happened much too late in arc 2 or too early. Imagine if that was the climax of the act, anons would probably be pretty happy with it. Then again, episode 4 alone is the size of the first arc. Minor side shit like Door's burger escapade is okay, but Plane Policework would function better as a between arcs I think.
>>97516261Ratkin are pretty diverse. There's Ratkin shamans, Ratkin warriors, Ratkin engineers (which are basically diet Nockers) and even Ratkin ''Malkavians'' that spread their own madness.
>>97516342So you do want all of the same factions and the same characters existing forever as they are, as any update to that is metaplot and metaplot is bad, as all of your examples of metaplot are factions doing things and characters doing things.So I was right.
>>97516357Personally I wasn't a fan of the werewolf reveal in either case, largely because I was actually quite fond of the idea of a low-impact, high stakes whodunnit intrigue fest in an old, baroque Arcanum Chapterhouse. Good contrast to the high impact, low stakes vampire fight. The idea of it being just a ghoul they were hunting also greatly appealed to me, since it would be a good time to highlight that WoD, vampire specifically, is a much less straight-up-fight oriented setting, and that oftentimes the most dangerous enemies are the ones who are good at talking and deceiving. Having a fairly weak foe be able to pose a significant threat by virtue of guile could make for an interesting plotline. So I was honestly pretty let down when they threw that out the window in favor of the werewolf plot, even putting aside the practical problem of creating too many loose plot threads and introducing too many characters.
>>97516068I want to play V:DA so bad god dammit AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Honestly I think with Nephandi there should have been more...Underlapping Structure to them. Though this'd be more as an ST Tool, basically a set of 3 "Left-handed" orgs that each focus on the Qlippothic Shells most pertinent to a specific "Type" of Nephandic Movement.So within the Outsiders, who are a mockery of the Dynamic Spheres much Beast-Of-War is a mockery of the Wyld, You have the Heralds of the Basilisk and groups that are evil counterparts to the Akashayana and the Sahajiya
>>97516717The more fleshed out they are the more likely people are to play them, which the writers have forbidden.
>>97516731I always found it funny how the writers and especially Brucato really didn't want you to play them. And yet we got detailed character creation supposedly purely for making npc lol
>>97516717I don't dislike this idea but I figure that fundamentally Nephandi are probably a bit too self-centered and malevolent to organize properly.>>97516753It's interesting that between this and Freak Legion too the idea is kind of >we're not telling you that you CAN play these clearly loathsome creatures, but we're also not saying you explicitly cannotProbably at least one guy on the team wanted them to be playable entirely
>>97516717im not a magefag, is nephandi your sabbat? you really dont have rules for them?
>>97516865Nephandi are closer to Wights with brain cells than Sabbat. Think of it this way>TraditionsCamarilla>TechnocracyNicer Sabbat>MaraudersAnarchs but more schizophrenia less politics>NephandiHumanity -1 Vampires
ZAP!
>>97516886Ratkin book is probably the funniest thing associated with werewolf to ever come out;
>>97516886Can I do multiple zaps a turn?>>97516900I'm debating if I should say Freak Legion but that requires a much more morbid sense of humor
>>97516223Unironically, who is going to make up the coalition? We know they're not going with the SI since pentex was never involved with them as far as I know.
>>97514619>What's the most horrific act you've ever personally committed in a Chronicle?Started and ended a weird 3 way Dark Ages conflict between Garou, Humans and Vampires?Drained a baby of blood to top off my blood pool and panicked when I heard the family come. Gave it enough to get embraced, I think like 1 or 2 BP and forgot about it for like 5 sessions. Came back to the village under 'orders' from the local Prince to find out why the Garou were suddenly so hostile in the area and its because all there kinfolk children were being burned alive at the stake while the 'babies' were kept indoors away from the bad masia. Turns out the baby somehow still alive but hidden due to the clan discipline it got and normal humans unable to find it and driving everybody mad and scared. Ate the child because I once more panicked like a retard to hide evidence of my crime and helped 'burn the wicked' away before the actual Inqusition or those that mattered got there. Who when they arrived actually just killed all the humans and remaining kinfolk.Never went back to that area but there was a 'rebellion put down' of former peasants by the local government in the epolog.I think I lost like 4 or 6 humanity out of it. Wild times being new and even dumber then now.
>>97517082>tfw one unattended baby could have drained all your humanityThat would be scary
>>97517042It's weird, it's *kinda* the SI, if the SI was out and out confirmed to be controlled opposition by the big boys like Pentex and Cam Elders. I'd bet that it's going to be a Pentex First Team (not announced as such) + the Society of Leopold (forma de faceless thug), who they already had as oblivious wyrmshitter patsies already, maybe with a few mysterious glowies (bri'ish).
>>97514722How do I get into a group like that?
>>97516900>Ratkin bookIn the upcoming Changing Breeds chronical that I'm playing in, the ST originally wanted to restrict content to 20th Anniversary; but caved as soon as the Ratkin player asked if he could take a gift that gave him properties of a cartoon character while in the Umbra.
>>97517135It lead to almost losing all of my humanity. The slope is quite slippery and man am i bad at math.
>>97515671NtA but I still call it Nu-WoD and OWoD. i'm not hip enough to keep up with these changing times.
>>97516879I think Traditions are actually the nicer Sabbat. The Technocracy is the Camarilla equivalent. Also Marauders and Anarchs don't really match up at all, that's probably why they tried forcing the Disparates meme so hard. Marauders would have to be like Malks if they had no org.
>>97517332Yeah you're probably right, Technocracy is much more entrenched than traditions. Marauders are just Anarchs in that they're free spirits divorced form the main conflict but like I said, less politics. I think they're the most similar to anarchs though Anarchs proper would be Orphans iirc
>>97516879but don't you have rules for the nephandi guys? kinda cringe if not
Why is it that I seem to give more worth towards regular Disciplines compared to Blood Sorcery Paths? What I mean is that when I’m making a character with blood magic, I’ll be satisfied with just a dot or two in a regular discipline, but I can never seem to be satisfied with the amount of Paths I have. Just one doesn’t seem like enough, but two feels like it wants to be three. How do I leash this greed so that I don’t spend all of my starting xp and freebie points on Paths?
how does obfuscation work? is it like that scene with the food in the lost boys at advanced levels?
>>97517491You do actually, that's what prompted the discussion. It's just even less intended for you to play than the Sabbat, who were heavily requested. Nephandi are so unstable and ebil for shits and giggles that the writers kind of put their foot down on it. There are rules, you just aren't intended to use them for players
>>97517264I wonder if any Vampires with mommy or parental kinks ever embraced a newborn and fed them blood directly? Honestly, the way this flashed across my head reading your post probably means I belong on a list somewhere
>>97517573What the fuck
>>97517573Most Vampire players belong or are already on a list. However that actually sounds like a super depressing flaw or derangement... Whats the fucking mental illness some parents suffer from when they 'lose' there kids young and then try to fill the gap?
>>97515927Set it in the near future, like 2040 or something, but based on what we thought the future would look like in the mid-late 2000's. That way it remains a period piece disconnected from, but similar to, reality, while keeping the tone and vibe created by a very specific era in time. Phones in the World of Darkness should not be featureless slabs of plastic that are completely uniform. They maybe shouldn't be smart, something closer to a PDA on a dumbphone. And have a flip keyboard.
>>97517579I honestly just thought it would be the funniest shit to throw at players and tragedy-kino. Could be worse, I plan on turning one of the player's sister into a Tzimisce after she gets mind broken like Beatrice from Dante's Inferno>>97517580It could be, propensity to kidnap and embrace newborns on a Malkavian. I know Swan Song had the babe who was hallucinating her daughter but I feel like children often go unused in plots. It is quite a gruesome fate, so I can see why
>>97517580I had the end result of this as an NPC once.During a small Sabbat incursion, the party decapitated the leadership, which was all well and good, but it left a bunch of Shovelheads scattered to the wind.One of them had her kid killed in front of her for 'no ties' reasons. She then went and found a kid who looked like her own, a young teen, and embraced her so they could 'be together'.Poor kid had a widower dad, so for a little bit genuinely thought the vamp was her undead mum. The Coterie eventually put the shovelhead down and took the kid under their wing, laws be damned, after having to figure out what was behind a spate of 'suicides' up at the local school.Worst part was that when she figured out her clan she was a Toreador. It didn't come up for obvious reasons but everyone winced a bit realising that her newfound penchant for flower arranging came with a lot of very unpleasant adult implications.
>>97517567that sounds like bullshit. i sorry for magefags if their game is so patronizing.
>>97517573>>97517579There was this Imbued couple that came across a newborn that had been Embraced. The wife, a Redeemer, wanted to save it. The husband, a Defender, went TOTAL BLOODSUCKER DEATH and killed it instead. It lead to a martial dispute.
>>97517630The writers really didn't want players to play baby-eating cannibals who get off on emotionally and physically torturing people. The sabbat sort of had this problem originally too but the Nephandi genuinely just have no nuance, they're there to go make life worse for someone at any given moment
do Void Engineers ever get to meet cute extraterrestrial girls?
>>97517632Based, I like this idea.
>>97517629>Worst part was that when she figured out her clan she was a Toreador. It didn't come up for obvious reasons but everyone winced a bit realising that her newfound penchant for flower arranging came with a lot of very unpleasant adult implications.Could've been worse, Could've been a Ventrue requiring it but damn. Thats good.
>>97517641They're reality deviants and should be treated accordingly
>>97517653I wasn't asking NWOchuds
>>97517629Wait, I don't get it I'm autistic. Explain that last paragraph>>97517641>>97517655Ayys are consensus products, basically just rather advanced spirits/demons (not from the bible)
>>97517632Adding one of these two to my game as an important NPC for an arc, thanks.Might incorporate it with some variant of the child-burning anon's story.If one of my players is using Obtenebration to read this, you didn't see it!
>>97517653>>97517655>>97517667>he still thinks aliens are product of consensus reality>he still thinks there's only one consensusAYY LMAOAYYLMAO
>>97515377You could just hit up your local Children of Gaya sept. They're all like that. You don't even need to get them drunk.
>>97517667The Toreador clan curse makes them obsess over something they find beautiful. This can - and over enough time, will - be a human being at some point. If that happens they will do absolutely everything they can to experience all that beauty, and get as close to that person as they can - most immediately, physically.At best, the kid is going to be completely unable to really interface with that in a way an adult should be able to. At worst, they're going to do what Toreador do best: bring someone to bed. While inhabiting the body of a child.
>>97517558My guess is how the fantasy of a magititan includes the variety of spells they should have available. Sure, rituals are supposed to cover that, but I don't think they are memorable enough to do sell the idea.
>>97517692They're not as enthusiastically slutty as the Fianna though.
>>97515325... in homid form, right?
>>97517655They're union members, remember the 5th precept of Damian supersneedalist.
>>97517710Jesus that is fucked up, thank you anon I both love it and hate it
>>97517742If you're breaking the Litany may as well go all the way
>>97517655You got caught tryn to cross into RIGHTFUL VE space without a permit. Bet your ass its kill on sight.
Is there a use for the Blessings of the Great Dark Mother that I'm just not getting? I'm not really sure what this Path is meant for, or if it's a path meant to help demons or the people enslaved by demons.
Why the fuck don't Gargoyles have a distinguishment between the ones made by the Tremere and the one Embraced?Their WHOLE CULTURE seems to be their enslavement, and almost everything written about them is about how they are while in the service of a Tremere or why they're horrifying.But logically there'd be Gargoyles who had enver known enslavement, who're the grandchilder, who would hope to integrate into some kind of community of their own (especially in Anarch spaces) or even throw their lot in with the Sabbat to be 'their own masters', at least theoretically.What do you think the blood of 'purer' (i.e. Gargoyle-Embraced) Gargoyles compels them to do? What're their banes, their blessings, what does their culture look like, how do the other Septs and Clans view them?How have (You) used gargoyles in your game, anons?
>>97517765erm... they have a driver's license?>>97517745so even the "cool" Technocrats are dreadful, boring fags? Okay.
>>97517893They're black coded
>>97517893V20 has Lore of the Bloodline & talks about Gargoyles. They have three sub-bloodlines & arent nearly as slave minded about it. My game featured one gargoyle, my wife who played my charactersm's (a Tremere) bodyguard. She was free, but still worked for me.
>>97514619>What's the most horrific act you've ever personally committed in a Chronicle?I played a fat ugly bastard Setite Priest in a London DAV20 chronicle. The Church of the Black Magdalene was expanding into Canterbury and the Coterie had been undermining the local faithful Toreador in charge of its Cathedral ever since the Chronicle began, with him taking a particular dislike to my Setite.After several misadventures the Setite Church had expanded its domain and the Toreador had been left with nothing. The Setite invited the Toreador to a festival for a "water under the bridge" over a game of chess and a few drinks of wine using the Brew of Typhon ritual combined with To Lace With Hidden Nectar. So after finding out about his sire (turns out the reason he was so devout was guilt over having killed his sire, though I didn't engage with the material properly since I didn't get the ST's ball) and getting him nice and loose, we brought him down to the secret Akhu altar, he had sex with one of the sexy setite ghoul assassin nuns on top of it, and being distracted, my Fat Bastard Priest used Serpentis 2 Tongue of the Asp to eat his ass to final death. I sent the goosh goosh video - https://youtu.be/LigcOxX-wJw - to the chat. He then became the centerpiece/temple onahole of the blasphemy shrine.The ST was... perplexed.
Question to everyone… if you have a fae enchant a mortal, would you still be hit by paradox if you do magic in front of them? What if it’s not their first time being enchanted so they know wonder and “magic” exists?>>97517737Are they though? I only played WTA once and my Fianna only managed to get so far as impressed her tribesmates during wolf boot camp, and drink and party during with them.
>>97518111>lower left cornerPatrician taste.
>>97518138Paradox isn't necessarily a single guy's perception fighting back at you, it's the entirety of reality telling you that no, you cannot phase through that wall. So even if a mortal, say an enchanted one or a sorcerer, believed in magic. They don't believe in M a g i c like you asserting your will over reality. So yeah, you'd still get fucked by Paradox though probably not as hard since no one important is there to observe. As per your second point, Fianna aren't necessarily slutty but they're pretty Fae blooded and certainly have a more celebratory culture. Yeah, you don't need to be a slut and it might be more interesting if they aren't but that's certainly the stereotype. Tribe with the most metis btw, so yeah.
>>97518138>Question to everyone… if you have a fae enchant a mortal, would you still be hit by paradox if you do magic in front of them? What if it’s not their first time being enchanted so they know wonder and “magic” exists?Go re-read how reality zones and consensus works
>>97518138Anyone who is considered Night-Folk or strongly associated with Night-Folk are no longer Sleepers. As ghouls are temporarily enhanced humans who are considered an example of humans who are no longer Sleepers and enchanted humans are temporarily enhanced humans who are able to interact with the Dreaming and the chimeric reality of changelings, I would argue that enchanted humans do not count as Sleepers for the duration of their enchantment.However, the consensus of a reality zone usually comes first. If your magick does not make sense according to the localised perception of reality, regardless of whether you have witnesses or not, your magick is vulgar and incurs Paradox. If your vulgar magick is witnessed by a Sleeper, the Paradox incurred by it is much more severe. If your magick is coincidental, it does not matter how many Sleepers witness it, Paradox is not incurred.The exceptions to this rule are Sleepers from a different reality zone to the one that you are casting magick in, and Assistants. Numerous Sleeper witnesses from a reality zone where your magick would be vulgar might turn your magick vulgar, even if it is normally coincidental in the reality zone in which it is being cast. Meanwhile, Assistants, various acolytes who are familiar with your paradigm and believe in your magick, can serve as a sympathetic audience and even turn your magick coincidental in an area where it would normally be vulgar.Ultimately though, there are some specific forms of magick which are always vulgar, no matter what reality zone they are cast in and that will always incur some degree of Paradox.
>>97518333I wonder if it would be possible to use the Mind Sphere to ass-rape the consensus in the area and then just do your vulgar magic? I suppose that's vulgar magic in itself though.
>>97518380If you socially condition everyone in the area using coincidental magick, I don't see why it wouldn't work. It would be a long and slow process however, as mindfucking everyone in the area at once would probably come across as vulgar magick, and there would probably be opposition to your methods, especially depending on the instruments that you use for your mind-altering magick.The final result would be a cult of acolytes, an entire town of people who earnestly believe in your paradigm and in which your magick is almost entirely coincidental as long as it doesn't break the fundamental rules. No unaided flight, no otherworldly portals, no spontaneous generation of large amounts of matter or energy, no significant manipulation of the time stream, no outlandish transformation of objects and entities, etc.
>>97517893the talk about the culture of bloodlines forgets that most bloodlines are TINY we are talking single to two digits: samedi are allegedly the largest bloodline, that isn't just a variant of a clan like mariner gangrel or dominate malkavian, and those guys could fit all into one train wagonso gargoyles don't have much of a culture beside their past because there are like 30 left (a dozen of which are feral in the mountains of transylvania and hunted by dracula and his aliies for sport) in the final nights and most of them know Virstania personally even tonighthow this doesn't mean that bloodlines are filled with mostly powerful elders who surrived since the darkages is a plot hole in white wolf's writing that they never cared to fix because most bloodlines where just meant to be exotic one off npcs for the storyteller to feature when bored
>>97518425>samedi are allegedly the largest bloodlinegrim>>97518028>She was free, but still worked for me.Yeah, you keep saying that.
>>97517960 remember to say thank you to your military combat cyborgs
>>97517960You need to understand that they don't all do it 'because we hate aliens/ect' its a "we do it because humanity needs us to" Its a retarded setting for a reason, Sure one might be a "good whatever" but it also could be a sleeper agent for TN to reach earth and highjack the programing or worse. An infection.
>>97518439>grimmind you this statement was from before v20 when the samedi still had a raison d'être ingame as they had necromancy as in-clan and served as necromancers for hire for people and player who did not want to deal with the giovanni and the harbringers of skulls the only real other alternative weren't a thing yet, both inuniverse as the bloodline hit it's apex during the victorian era which is before the harbingers came out of the shadowlands. And out of universe they had most of their material in second ed which is before the harbingers been writen
>>97517726I’ve been trying to figure out what paths to take all day and I think that part of it may just be the sheer variety of paths. Or maybe it’s not enough paths. It can be difficult sometimes to really figure out what Paths make the most sense for a particular character to take, in terms of both function and theme. I can only dip into a few at most, but i can find reasons to take so many.
>Here’s that Euthanatoi I was telling you about
>>97518538Graves seems more like a hedge wizard
>>97517641yes and sometimes they get boypregnant >///<
>>97517630Mage is a game about transcending the limitations of humanity and raising them into a utopic society.the Nephandi are the complete opposite, their goal is descending into the most dystopic world imaginable while ruining any hope humanity ever had that the world could be a good place or that life could be enjoyed.Nephandi make perfect sense as a narrative foil to the mages themselves
>>97517573I'm pretty sure that violates the Tradition of Progeny. No Prince is going to allow that, & even child vampires are taboo let alone infants. I'd personally rule that it's not possible
>>97518588that tradition only matters if they know you embraced
>>97517558>>97518487Because Paths are the best. Plus there just isnt that many Disciplines that are worth it especially if you have access to blood sorcery. Maybe Fortitude & Celerity if you really want. Vicissitude is always nice.As for Paths it depends on what you want. Path of Blood gives you a handful of useful abilities, info gathering, Dominate resistance & buffing your own Dominate (my artificially lowering your Generation) not to mention expanding your blood pool for fights. And the last two fuck up other vampires & huma s by stealing vitae or burning it. I always recommend Path of Blood first.Then we get into the more interesting aspects.Path of the Focused Mind will let you cast twice a turn, do this one next but you needn't finish it.Ive talked about Path of Conjuring before. It allows you to manifest straight up bombs if you want. You imagination is the literal limit. Theoretically with a few dots in Science you could conjure a nuke without any real fuss. Summon spikes above the enemy or even solid gold/diamonds to sell for quick cash, no need for resources, as this will create the resource dots for you with a few castingsPath of Warding is good for defense but its crazy good for offense when used correctly. Mark a fistful of pennies with warding glyphs & you do tons of damage to people you throw them at since each individual coin his with its own damage. You can also put ritual wards on them to compound the damage further.Movement of the Mind can help you steal. As well as telepathically throw all those pennies.Path of Mercury let's you teleport. Ultimate get the fuck out of jail card. Its a 5 dot MUST in my opinion. You can build an underground haven with no access other than teleportation if you want. The range is 5 miles so that covers a good chunk of most towns & city neighborhoods.
>>97518672Ushabti are great & can be a real source of vitae.Divine Hand is cool tooFor the most part, I think the straight damage Paths arent nearly as good as the ones that let you do odd stuff. Odd stuff & a clever mind will always be better than a formula to turn vitae into damage. You have Path of Blood as your basic fallback damage source, Lure of Flames can suck it
>>97518588That level of pedophilia can make you president one day.
>>97518111oh neat. I was there when we brainstormed a church of the black magdalene setite priest character in this general a bit over a year agoif this was you then it's nice to hear that you got to use it in a game
>>97515739to keep everyone up to date jason carl said m5 is what he and his team would like to work on next and then it would be either v5 dark ages or Changeling, but after vtmb2 came out he despite being the most vocally excited person working for the new white wolf alive jumped ship to instead work as a game master teacher in a dnd academy nobody ever heard aboutthere are no offical announcements of any kind ever since the creation of the new new white wolf. Beside them hiring a literaly who as brand manager because she worked at dnd 5eand the only things currently in the pipeline that we know about are a chronicle for w5 and Legacy of Defiance which is a splat book for h5
>>97516978>Can I do multiple zaps a turn?I don't think so. I think regular splitting dice rules may apply, unless you use rage for extra turns.
>>97516886>Rage + Gnosis aggravated damageThis thing can theoretically deal 20 dice worth of agg damage, surpassing nukes and anti-matter in terms of raw damage output. All of that from a silly little rat plugging itself in an outlet lmao
>>97517042Probably the Pentex characters we have already seen, SoL so a totally-not-Bach character (they'll probably make him a jobber like D), generic V5 spooks and the Arcanum in a supporting role. Can't really see them including oWoD groups.
>>97519454SoL squad is going to be a bunch of sexy nuns
>I CAN FEEL THE SPIRITS COMING INSIDE OF ME!! AAAAA-
Cabrius did nothing wrong! the egyptians are all weirdos
>>97520004Don't talk about the Silent Striders that way they had a hard life
>>97520047i am sorry i been talking about egyptians as in people actually from egypt. The silent Striders are less egyptian then your typical boston kid is italian
>>97519454SoL character is going to be Bach’s daughter
is a ghoul with dominate considered to be at their dominors generation or to have none (and unable to dominate any sort of vampire)?
>>97520131>Get to witness someone seethe over a dead manI would be so down for LaCroix references
>>97519440No only that I don't see a cap on that "once per hour spent charging". I would argue that since it's a single-target, requires prep, and high rank it should be able to keep the stupid high damage at the cost of number of shots stored being 1+your stamina score, or if that's too low then charges stored = stamina+ successes on a stamina+science roll
>>97520316I like the idea that spending too long charging cooks your rat from the inside out personally.
>>97517042Well, let's see. In terms of who might even turn UP to Great Yarmouth to hunt some werewolves?>Newburgh Group representative who won't get their hands dirty>Church of England's version of SoL. No Catholics, yes spider drones!>Pentex's merc force, obviously. They will burn down the forest to destroy the caern>Possibly a government employee working for the JTRG>Our Arcanum membersI expect it to be a Pentex majority force.
>>97520352>Church of England's version of SoL.Fun fact, this exists in lore. A bunch of english SoL cenacula went indie when the Church of England was formed, they call themselves the Society of Saint George, not to be confused with the Knights of Saint George.However, they already set up the weird Arcanum-Leopold alliance, it'd be odd if they didn't pay it off.
>>97520389>they already set up the weird Arcanum-Leopold allianceWhich is weird since the SoL tried to infiltrate the Arcanum. That and their ideologies are the polar opposite
>>97520389>they call themselves the Society of Saint George, not to be confused with the Knights of Saint George.actually hunters hunted 2 implies that they are related >Knights of St. George The Resolute Knights of St. George, as they are occasionally called, was established in Syria in the 11th century. They spread across the world, and by the 1400’s, there were chapterhouses of this knighthood from Ireland to India. The Knights of St. George have always been a forward-looking order, inducting women in the 19th century, and opening their doors to non-Christians in the early 20th. There are alchemists, sorcerous numinist, and mortal researchers. A splinter group, the Society of St. George, is even believed to be able to wield powerful magic. All of them have sworn to hunt evil upon the world, and primarily focus their attention on vampiresso unlike the society of leopold these guys have actual sorcerers instead of just theurges and if you poke them enough you'll get awakened paladins
>>97518672One of the problems I run into is that the objective usefulness of some Paths like Conjuration or Movement of the Mind is the same thing that leads me to wonder if I should go for a more specialized Path. My thought process being:>Of course that Path is so useful why wouldn’t someone learn it>Well they probably have a specific subject they’re interested in moreso than others that they’d rather study instead>Damn most of these specialized Paths are so specialized that they’d be useless in most scenarios>Well, there are those broader and generally useful paths>But they probably would rather go for something closer to their specialty>Repeat
>>97520415Yeah HH2 conflicts with Inquisition on what they are.Given how they've depicted the SoL I don't think anyone there has read Inquisition.
>>97520425didn't the second inqusition book come out after the series started? could be that despite how painfully slow the production is that the plot is already written downand if you have such a painfully slow production you don't want to complicate it even further by changing stuff
>>97520352i could also see some randoms showing up that the coalition recruited and them just getting killed
>>97520431I think he meant pic rel
i am not saying we should normalize diablery i am just saying that my sire deserved it
>>97520481I did. The first Inquisition book. The one with all the fun Leopoldite lore. like them capping Pope John Paul I
>>97520643>Spoiler He deserved it, God told me so
>>97520788 The reason the book gives is that the Society doesn't reveal itself to popes much anymore. It has for some, but not all. Apparently revealing itself to John Paul I went quite poorly, and it just so happens he died a month after he became Pope. Funny, that. Other fun lore from that book includes the Austrian girlboss, Ingrid Bauer, who is in charge of the Society's operations in Austria. She's no diversity hire, in fact she's far more hardline and traditionalist than most of the Society's leadership, her major claim to fame being bringing medieval torture methods back into vogue. Not just on vampires, but on suspected collaborators. Or the Florentine Heresy, when an Inquisitor realized that society orthodoxy, that vampires are just demons joyriding corpses, was just wrong and they were people turned by a curse. He then began offering honest attempts at salvation and redemption to any vampire willing to listen, to repent for their sins, and to help them overcome their cursed existence through the grace of God. The Society had him and all his followers killed when they found out.What's fun about the Society of Leopold is how they can be way more liberal than the actual Catholic Church in some respects, like laypeople and especially women within the Society, and in positions of prominence no less. While also having stayed in the Middle Ages on other things, and the tacit rejection of Vatican 2. They're a very fun mess of contradictions.
>>97520555The only sin of Father Caine, tsk tsk. Now you're on the red list
>>97520418What is their specialty? I'm just giving you the best "bang for your buck" recommendations. If you have RP reasons for such, then I can reevaluate. But Blood>Focused Mind>Conjuration>Mercury>Others is the route I recommend. As a neonate, by the time you get enough xp to get Blood 5 Focus 3 & Conjuration 4 you'll have enemies enough to warrant Mercury 5. After that it's just refining your personal needs. Just a little MotM is great to steal small things & push buttons across the room etc. Warding goes into damage & defense. Think of it like an academic, you need a broad foundation before you specialize or you just grab that ONE THING & never touch thaumaturgy again like many NPCs.
>>97520157>is a ghoul with dominate considered to be at their dominors generation or to have none (and unable to dominate any sort of vampire)?iirc ghouls are technically 2 generations higher but there's a decent chance thats from requiem.
>>97520481Is that the one with the merit that gives -2 difficulty for all rolls involving deduction?
Caine really said "Always obey the oldest vampire around, for they are closest to me. Be loyal to your sire because they're your sire. I fucking HATE diablerie, it is the greatest sin a vampire can commit."Then the Sabbat pretended to not hear that, did the exact opposite of what Caine said, and call themselves His Sword.
>>97521514Wow, it's almost like every major World of Darkness faction is built on hypocrisy!
>>97521514Well, you see..>my diablerie: moral and justified>your diablerie: bad and retarded
>>97521514it's actually really funny when you read the book of nod and the character who leaves notes in it (i don't remember if it's beckett or aristotle) says in one note that according to a sabbat contact all but PERHAPS one of these laws are "elder propaganda" but they don't have any alternative lore to support that claim at all. It's literally "i don't like it so it must not be true"
>>97521514The answer is simple, Caine didn't say that
>>97521514The sword cuts both ways.
>>97521523>it's almost likeIt's exactly like that you raging faggot, that's why I said it. The Sabbat are the gold medalist hypocrites in an Olympic-level hypocrite-off. Don't be a snide little shit, I said what I meant, you should do the same. >>97521541lol, Sabbat are on some pic related stuff with the Book of Nod
>>97521635Cool, want a medal for pointing out the obvious?
>>97521078While Renzi's ideals were very noble and all that but he was partaking in orgies (men included) with lycanthropes.That burning was deserved if you ask me. Imagine actually talking to a v*mpire or a rabid beast. The society has a very pragmatic approach to things if you ask me. >>97521318Just checked and didn't see anything like that. Fist of God is pure kino though
>>97521914I think it's this one:Uncanny Logic (2pt Merit)You have an uncanny reasoning ability that allows you to take apparently innocuous facts and ruthlessly deduce their true meaning. There is nothing supernatural in this: you have just been blessed with an ordered and uncluttered mind that can work through trains of thought more fully than others can manage. All difficulties on rolls involving deduction decrease by 2.
>>97522213Yeah, that one is from Dark Ages: Inquisition
>Here's my Sluagh, bro
>>97522450Her skin is not gray enough, BRO.
Any way to have poison mist power for a vampire?I’m looking at fomori powers, and it’s not entirely what I’m looking for…• Hazardous Breath: The fomor can spew a cloud of harmful halitosis on anyone within reach.System: Inflict one Health Level of damage with a successful Dexterity + Brawl roll (difficulty 7). This can be used once per scene for each point of Stamina the fomor has. However, the cloud can’t extend farther than the fomor can reach.The range is pretty small, and only usable in melee.• Hazardous Heave: The fomor must have Hazardous Breath to gain this power; treat this as buying a second power.System: Like Hazardous Breath, but the spewed substance is caustic, inflicting two Health Levels of damage each turn until the substance is washed off or the subject dies. The fluid might resemble napalm, gasoline, or toxic waste.• Noxious Breath: The fomor releases poisonous fumes into the air. Those nearby are filled with inexplicable cravings. The fumes weaken the lung tissue (or stomach lining) of those who breathe it. System: The fomor rolls Stamina + Medicine (difficulty 6). Fumes waft within 20 yards of the fomor. Anyone within range must make a Willpower roll (difficulty 8) or get an irresistible urge for an unhealthy (but still consumable or inhalable) substance, such as alcohol or a cigarette (even if the victim doesn’t drink or smoke): the substance can’t be toxic, corrosive, or poisonous. Each target that fails this Willpower roll suffers one Health Level of damage. The damage is aggravated and can’t be soaked. (Some variants of this power have a different smell that induce overwhelming cravings for unhealthy food, such as a hunger for raw meat or burned bacon; the damage is inflicted to the stomach lining instead.) Noxious Breath can only be used three times in a scene.Really close to what I want. But the damage seems to only be done once the victim indulges in a vice. At least it has a range.
>>97522500I think you could try getting that as the 5 dot merit:Innate Magical Ability (5pt Merit)You have some sort of magical ability that makes you unique. this ability is different from any normal vampiric power or Discipline. The exact nature of your ability should remain mysterious to you, though you have some say in what that ability is.
>>97522569I was thinking of this merit to get the power
>>97521177>What is their specialty? Well that's part of the problem, every Path I browse when trying to choose even just a Primary Path shows me wholly unique "paths" that I could take the character down. I think you might be the same anon I talked with this about a thread or two ago, so sorry if I repeat myself, but I'll just list out what I'm working with so far. >Revised Edition>Starting with 50exp to spend>No Dark Ages stuff>Anarch city with a neighboring Cammie city>Basic concept is a coptic woman from Egypt who was embraced into the Sorcerer caste of the Banu Haqim because of her dogged attempts to study exorcistic and healing Christian faith magics.>The single-most horrifying moment of her existence was catching a glimpse of Ur-Shulgi shortly before the schism>She sided with the Schismatics, but refuses to work with the Camarilla out of sheer hatred of the TremereThey're kinda sporadic, but these are the only elements that have stayed consistent throughout my time thinking up this character
>>97522612>a coptic woman
>>97522612Give her Ushabti & Path of Duat & call it a day>>97522500Path of Nergal/Covenant of Nergal
>>97519173That WAS me as a matter of fact! The sexy nun ghoul assassin squad themed after the 7 virtues/sins only ended up with 3 members since I wanted them to be somewhat combat capable but it was worth it. We had cornered a Tzimisce that had been causing trouble in the region into her cave haven and managed to make her flee, but couldn't pursue her all the was because daytime was approaching. That's when Sister Patience managed to stake her as she slept and guard her until night-time, where the rest of the coterie caught up and we brought the prisoner to the prince to be made an example. She earned an embrace for that one.
>>97522689>Path of a NergalNot exactly what I wanted, but this gave me an excellent backstory opportunity.
>>97522794>one less tzitrash in the woldbased
>>97522816Tell us
>>97522838for me, it's pink and black
>>97522895Sadly, I can only self insert as the fat ugly bastard.
>>97522838What are their clans?
>>97522925-Tentacles is either lasombra or tzi-Black guy is ass'mite, purely for socio-economical reasons-Gyaruo is toreafag and probably more interested in fucking the guy-sadistic shota is Tremere-Ugly bastard is whatever clan [anon] is playing right now
>>97522882Well, I want to play Hassan of Serenity and I was wondering what would make her so special to be the only one who’s 100% poison 100% of the time. Deadly to even undead like kindred. Now I got it. Her sire/mentor could be a sorcerer of the Covenant of Nergal who enchanted her to be this way.So far I have found flaws to mimic her condition of no touchie or else you die.
Would a St. Hubert's key be best as an anti werewolf weapon (Given its association with rabies) or an anti vampire weapon (Given that it involves branding and fire)?>>97522990This may seem a bit out of left field, but changeling the lost has a contract that turns you into a living elemental thing that potentially hurts anything they touch.
>>97523048I’m mostly trying to build it out of oWoD, but your thing does remind me of the fifth dot of a VTR discipline that turns you into a poisonous/acidic mist
this Superb Owl was giving me Banality
>>97522990>Fate mentionedYou can always just bootleg quietus or ask your ST to homebrew up a poison discipline. I understand that poison wouldn't work well against vampires traditionally but I imagine something that causes coagulation might prevent usage of blood points for a while. A Hassan would definitely have to be an Assamite but they have their weirdo sorcery too don't they?
That post I made about the Vampire Mommy kink is giving me terrible ideas for new weirdos. I kind of enjoyed making such an unhinged character concept.
>>97523158Maybe the real masquerade was the fetishes we enjoyed along the way.
>>97523116I was mostly thinking about asking if Magical Ability could let me make my poisons also affect kindred.I then remembered in the Camelot FGO movie Serenity was also able to conjure poisonous smoke filling a whole room. So then I began doing research on something similar and I started with the Fomori powers because I remembered some of them may be close to what I want.
He'll be rewarded for never maturingFor never understanding or learningThat every day can't be about him"There's other people, you selfish asshole!"
>>97522619I don't think I've made a male ttrpg character in like 5 >>97522689Ushabti's not available for Dur-An-Ki and Path of Duat doesn't really feel like it fits
>>97523158oh noooo you'd better not post them here haha
>>97523178Probably it's hard to one up the writers since there's basically every non-illegal fetish under the sun in these books + some illegal ones.
>>97523199Well the only thing to do is stop whinging & pick something
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>>97523199>I don't think I've made a male ttrpg character in like 5Are you fempcs hot?
God I hate Changeling
>>97521514Literally when was diablerism represented as "good" in word of darkness? I know revised has a shit ton of awful lore and Caine gets super retarded there. But diablerism was always considered bad in-lore. Also back then not all elders were evil so yeah this point here is retarded.
>>97523415>autumn people alarm
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>>97523849God, I'm so glad I'm not a nosfeRAT
>>97523849you forget the wraiths and the black spiral dancersseriously why does everything want the sewers in wod?
>>97523849The amount of shit that happens in the average WoD sewer is truly impressive.
>>97523849>Ratkin>Nosferatu>Marauders>The Eldest>FomoriI fucking kneel
>>97523196It's all an illusion. I'm wearing make-up, I'M WEARING MAKEUP, MAKEUP, MAKEUP, MAKEUP
Hey, y-you, uh, you guys didn’t forget about Wraith, did you? Nah, of course you wouldn’t, right?? haha
>>97523445The Assamites consider Diablerie their right, the Sabbat considers Diablerie the proper end for all "fake" vampires, the Tremere were created by Diablerie as were the Giovanni. Those for groups would see their own Diablerie of others as a good thing.
>>97523878WoD has an underground tunnel system on a greater level than even the human trafficking crab demon conspiracy theory. It's simply the easiest and fastest way to get around unnoticed until some Specter decides your booty looks delicious and turns your asshole into your mouth and your mouth into your asshole
A vampire covers himself up in a thick layer of fire-retardant gel, like movie stuntment do for certain scenes. How much protection does it afford him against fire? Yes, he manages to overcome the urge to Frenzy, thanks for asking. Asking for Masq and Req.
>>97520788>[True Faith 5] Your life literally is as valuable as a summer ant. I'm just gonna stake you, your spawn will keep coming back, I'm gonna sanctify all my cracks, you're gonna keep coming back, why? Cause you keep smelling the vitae, you worthless godless bloodsucker! You're gonna stay on my pyre until you die. You serve no purpose in God's plan, your purpose in God's plan is to suffer for your sins daily. Your purpose in God's plan is to be in hell suffering daily. Your unlife is nothing, you serve ZERO purpose. You should kill yourself, NOW!
>>97524801Soak 5 but it'll wear off after a round or two
Molesting hedgefag into submission
>>97524736makes me wonder how hard it would be to hide a fallout vault below a city and have the people in it think that the world ended
Hmm. Just thought of a middle of or post puberty Changeling with a pregnancy kink using Naming to remote impregnate people permanently . Maybe even doing that to actual Fae though they can probably just naming themselves back.
>>97525907you guys should masturbate before making posts, thanks
>>97523849lol
While the angels, all pallid and wan, Uprising, unveiling, affirmThat the play is the tragedy, “Wolf,” And its hero, the Conqueror Wyrm.
>>97525918>World of Dark horror doesn't have at least one character being an unhinged deviant drunk on their own power or shackled to their obsessionsMaybe, I've been doing semen retention but I just like making weird antagonists
>>97525402I think anyone with dom 3 or equivalent can do it in under a year
>>97526017That's fine in the privacy of you're own home but please don't share them with the class
>>97525402Sounds like a fun Malk or Nossie project. Or Ventrue if you're trying to preserve a certain culture
>>97526017>>97525907Continue sharing these with the class, even if it's fetish shit the use of pregnancy as body horror has a long and storied history because pregnancy is ABSOLUTELY body horror.
>>97526017>I've been doing semen retentionso that's your practice and the extra semen is the tool, but what is your paradigm?
>>97526134I am possessed to hit post, I don't even goon to this stuff. It just comes to me like a Victorian child haunted by the clinking of the machinery that took his brother's fingers.>>97526313Will do anon.>>97526370I've never actually read Mage enough to under stand how to paradigm but I may soon to see what might be possible.
>>97526370Same as the ancient Egyptians, semen is mana and expunging it makes it poison.
>>97526462The Hem-Ka-Sobek died out because they retained so much semen they all exploded.
>>97526527makes more sense than being killed by some of the weakest antagonists in the setting
>>97525277>Soak 5 but it'll wear off after a round or twoDon't some scenes require the stuntmen to be on fire for a couple minutes at a time?
>>97526820That requires a lot more protection than just gel. Usually whole bodysuits. I'd recommend looking up fire stunt footage somewhere for the details.
>>97526434>I've never actually read Mage enough to under stand how to paradigm but I may soon to see what might be possible.In M20, it boils down to:>ParadigmAccording to your mage, what are the fundamental principles that the world works according to?>PracticeWhy does your mage believe he is able to wield magic within that paradigm?>InstrumentWhat methods are fundamental to the wielding of magic within your mage's practice?>EffectWhat does your magic seek to do with the magic that they perform using their instruments?So for a semen sorcerer, you could go with:>The universe runs on the masculine will to power, the fundamental driving force that exists within everything that compels everything in reality to grow strong and to dominate (paradigm). I harness this fundamental force of the universe through semen retention, accumulating as much masculine energy as I am able and only expending it in dire circumstances (practice). I accomplish this through testicle breathing, Kegel exercises, a strict diet to maximise semen production and sperm quality and only ejaculating when I must exert my masculine will to power in order to dominate the universe (instruments). My semen retention makes me stronger, smarter and more attractive than I otherwise would be and I can accomplish truly great feats when I do ejaculate, such as time travel and astral projection (effects).
>>97523849What’s happening here? Sewer mage vs rat shanker?
In Chronicles, what happens if a vampire feeds vitae to a Mage? Can you ghoul a mage?
>>97527131It probably triggers a clash of wills.
>>97527131in 2ed at least you can not gain second template even two minior ones won't mix and major one always overwrites a minor oneso no ghoul werewolves, mages, changelings just like you have no wolf blooded mages, changeling and vampires (beside that one gangrel bloodline lorewise, but they don't have the wolf blooded template rules wise) and if your ghoul become a mage he stops your ghoul that second
>>97527131>>97527180Got it. Which probably means they also can't spend vitae to heal. My vampire recently tried to feed vitae to a "mortal" in order to save her when she was shot, and is now trying to puzzle out why she didn't end up dependent on more of his vitae. Also how she survived a bullet that went entirely through her heart.
>>97527131You can ghoul a Mage if you want to per the crossover rules in Contagion. It just works like you'd expect.
>>97527193yeah even the blood sorcerer like minior templates who can use vitae for their stuff can't become ghouls and use vitae the way they doit's a bit weird and clunky in my opinion so i personally allow a bit of template mixing when i run cofd, but if your st goes full by raw then that mortal didn't become a ghoul and saved herself another way it all you have however is that she surrived a lethal shot in the heart she could however also be a kind of immortal or any other lesser known supernatural with regeneration instead of a mage
>>97527131It’s funnier when a mage feeds a vampire their own blood. Apparently it’s a powerful (Supernal) high. Mages will smirk if a vampire threatens to bite them since they’re like “go right on ahead, buddy!”. And then they get raped by Supernal fae. Poor vampy.
actually crazy how mages got wanked even HARDER in cofd than they got in wod
>>97526899Great read, thank you
Is getting into a relationship with a mage worth it? Asking for a friend.
>>97527437only if you are a werecat
>>97527361Both Mage lines were heavily shaped by one cripplingly autistic dude. Ascension had Brucato, a weirdo sex pest who thought magic was actually real. Awakening had DaveB, who was the final form of a power-tripping caster player. Mage was his pet splat and he wanted to move heaven and earth to make them the most powerful and important template ever.
>>97527437Well, you have to account for the fact that your partner may die thanks to some machiavellian bullshit or paradox if they fuck up. The freaky sex shit you could get up to is without limits though. You just have to hope they'll find some time for you between fighting in a war for the nature of reality.
Can a Pure Uratha be 'redeemed' and reclaim their Auspice, or is the ritual to remove it permanent?
>>97527533I wanna say it's permanent, but I don't know for certain. Maybe a very powerful Lune could restore it.
roll 1d20 to see what cursed wod splat combination you end up as. 1 - Cleopatra Nosferatu2 - Tzimisce Ghoul3 - Toreador Drone4 - Sabbat Tremere re-embraced by the Baali5 - Salubri who didn't diablerize their Sire and is hunted by the 7 AND the Tremere6 - Male Black Fury Metis7 - Homid Ratkin8 - Homid non-Samebito Rokea9 - Ceilican Hellcat10 - Antara Ananasi11 - House Tytalus Apprentice12 - Igor to Mad Scientist Etherite13 - Only sane Iterator in the Amalgam14 - Member of the Consaguinity of Eternal Joy15 - Liche16 - Seelie Redcap17 - Wraith18 - Bane Mummy19 - Freak Legion Fomor20 - Lone Hunter in the middle of a Vamp/Garou war
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>97527745Man, imagine just being a wraith, that'd be awful
>>97527754I KNEW IT, HAH! The dice love me! They always roll what's funniest when I throw them.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>97527745God these are so fucking horrible, but take the you.
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>97527745let's rock
>>97527745let's gooo
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>97527745Fuck it, rollan
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>97527745Fuck my shit up
>>97527437No. Never. Find yourself a nice Mummy woman or changeling
Rolled 10 (1d20)>>97527745I haven't rolled dice in so long, let's see if I still remember how to do it.Being an Etherite or Iterator or Male Black Fury doesn't sound SO bad. I could work with being a Seelie Redcap for a few months, I'm sure...
>>97527745you only die once!
>>97527839Bruh my soul is doomed
>>97526017>semen retentionJust learn to recycle.
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>97527745Bane mummy coming up
>>97528099respect man
>>97528099
>>97523817What a cool bunk. Even if it is probably just a 3-level one.
>>97527745dice+1d20fuck it I will
On a scale of 1-10, how fucked is my Nosferatu?
>>97527745lets go
>>97527745Future Garou Rapist Here>>97528021Fellas, is it gayer to recycle, retain, or drain from the homies like a sort of life essence lich? Lich gonna have your mana more like Lich gonna lick your cummies
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>97528355I believe I might be a bit retarded
>>97528327Eh, either very or not at all depending on how much the ST is willing to kill PCs. Lots of rookie STs like to throw out massive, big name vampires to flex, but not all of them follow through on it. Apologies if this comes off as rude but based on that post your ST is getting noob ST bingo. Very real chance this game will implode on account of the ST biting off way more than he could conceivably chew, I've seen this before.
>>97528327At least an 8, probably a 10 when you become a handsome Squidward overnight.
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>97527745baka if it doesn't work this time man
>>97528414A few rides on The Wheel and soul surgery should do the trick, and I'd be fine, so it could've been worse.
>>97528369>I believe I might be a bit retarded>ChangelingChecks out
>>97528438Don't Mages just reincarnate. You will now never not be a Mage>>97528442Leave me alone, I might be angry and retarded but I still have feelings. I could have been a chud Garou instead
>>97528355>Fellas, is it gayer to recycle, retain, or drain from the homies like a sort of life essence lich?It's fine as long as you say "no homo".
>>97528369Seelie Redcaps are actually pretty cool, they're fighting a life long battle against crippling murder rage and winning. You can get a lot of respect being that cool.
>>97528573Except from other Redcaps, who call you 'gay' and 'cringe' and 'a moralfag' and also keep trying to murder you.
>>97528573>>97528677I would call fellow redcaps gay and cringe and try to murder them too ngl
>>97528677But those are acceptable targets, so you get to let loose on them and impress all the pooka girls
>>97528711The ones that all go 'wow, you're so cool!' and 'that big mouth with the giant teeth just makes you look handsome, honest!' and 'I don't have a boyfriend!', you mean?
>>97528732And then you get to live despair kino trying to not murder them, while knowing they're what you want to cannibalize the most
>>97528752Being a Changeling is suffering
>>97528790All you have to do is... embrace Banality
>>97528801I feel a sudden urge to fill out a job application
>>97528790Also now that you've had your Chrysalis don't forget to start fights and main people every now and then to get Glamour back. Or get really good at inspiring with hope. Either or, really.But you also get to have more fun than any mortal ever could.
>>97524801In Requiem it would probably delay the damage by about 3 to 5 turns or downgrade the scale of the flame by a similar degree.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>97526899Could you do the Paradigm/Practice/Instrument/Effect for my Ferectoi Mage?I know that his essence is primordial, his main sphere is Spirit followed by Prime, and he’s inspired by Palmer from HTP… so a Syndicate guy working for Pentex. So far the only instrument that comes to my mind is using a camera for spirit photography. Taking pictures of people, without their knowledge that they have been photographed with a bane. The polaroid would show the bane, and probably the state of wyrm possession.Though I don’t know if you can use only one type of instrument. I just think it’d be fun if he was the social guy taking selfies with strangers, and keeping a notebook with contacts and other infos on people he meet, having a list of many “friends” he regularly visit… but in reality he’s handcrafting stronger than average Fomori, and getting favours from banes. In that case photography is more of a hobby than a way of life.>>97527745Sure, let’s see how unlucky I am
>>97529051Woe, depression be upon ye
>>97529098I’m going ghost!
>>97529156He's gonna catch 'em all 'cause he's Daniel Fentom the "recovering" Fentanyl addict
>>97528099>>97302177>rolled for normal loser a few threads ago>became a mummy against my will>now I call bane mummy and GET itI think I fell to Apophis guys.
>>97529619Set wants your location
>>97526899I can see this guy being a Chorister
>>97529737More likely Akashic
>>97529774No, it's funnier if he's a Chorister
>>97529781well that's true
>>97529051To start with, all mages have at least one paradigm, at least one practice and at least seven instruments, with spells typically weaving multiple instruments together to start with. Starting with Arete 3, mages can start shedding instruments, until they abandon the need for instruments at all at Arete 9 and can perform magic without the need for them whatsoever.For your ferectoi, using the default options, I'd go with:>Paradigm(s)A World of Gods and Monsters (believes that his power comes from the Wyrm), Might is Right (believes that his power comes from his innate superiority) and/or One-Way Trip to Oblivion (believes that his power is tied to the Apocalypse).>Practice(s)Dominion (wields his power through dominating others), Faith (wields his power through devotion to the Wyrm) Maleficia (wields his power through deliberate acts of evil), Reality Hacking (wields his power through disruption of the status quo) and/or Shamanism (wields his power through communion with spirits).>InstrumentsArtwork, blood and fluids, bones and remains, brews and concoctions, computers and IT gear, devices and machines, drugs and poisons, energy, eye contact, languages, mass media, money and wealth, offerings and sacrifices, prayers and invocations, social domination, symbols and/or voice.Effects are just what your character does with their magic, not a part of the focus.
>>97529789Nice art
>>97526899>>97529842I'm not the guy who asked but good job.
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>97527745I love rolling dice.
>>97530290Welcome to the world of leper.
>>97530296*leprosy
>>97530296https://youtu.be/J8zBd5iHuy8?si=C7ZUPJux3BQjwK98
>>97530318Fuck, I was just reading picture related.
Is scion any good?
>>97530337Is this Doctor Strange?
>>97530429Yeah. #4 (2016)
>>97530966 >>97530966 >>97530966
>>97530971bit early innit? Only page 8.
>>97514642What splat is that from?
