Previous: >>97507311>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:What is your win percentage?
Excited for the upcoming announcement that Badger Mole Cub and Vivi are game changers? I hope you didn't do anything silly like spend money trying to predict the future!
>>97516446Why would badgermole cub be a game changer? There's way crazier mana acceleration out there.
>>97516440>tq25% of course
>>97516446Vivi is on the same level as Kinnan and Winota. Pretty good in the 99 and can do some degenerate shit, but not nearly as strong outside the command zone. He won't be banned or made into a GC.
I have imposter syndrome, so I'm always going to say sub 25%.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
I'm selling all my gamechangers if they unban dockside
did i got scammed? a guy just sold me this for $85, was quite excited considering these are quite sought after right and even being in japanese.then i went to online retailers and i cant find any in japanese, only english.help me out bros, did i just flushed away 85 for MrChang xerox paint on cardboard?
>I'm not accepting the banlist if they ban rhysticCool, so I'm going to play Iona with the entire deck being based around finding painter's servant.
>>97516584Cool. Just means you die first to the table and no one cares I run rustic sometimes
>>97516584Reminder that no ban list cedh has been solved, and tinker -> bolas citadel is supreme
>>97516599You can try and kill me, but white has plenty of stax pieces.
>>97516572lol man I hope soFinal Faggotry tranimes get what they deserve
>>97516572open it and check the cards :)
>>97516446>Excited for the upcoming announcement that Badger Mole Cub and Vivi are game changers? I hope you didn't do anything silly like spend money trying to predict the future!Would them being flagged as GCs change their value at all? If anything it would just cause their value to increase.
>>97516622but are these also available in jap?i wanna hold it and see if it goes up in value IF its real?can anyone honestly help me
>>97516572>help me out bros, did i just flushed away 85 for MrChang xerox paint on cardboard?Maybe?>>97516648Doesn't seem so? Scryfall only shows english printings
>>97516681scryfall doesn’t show different languages
>>97516688You're fucking retarded.
>>97516648>>97516572chill dude.its real.
>>97516648>ubslop investorbroLMAO get fucked
>>97516688scryfall has shown other languages for almost the entire decade it's existed, what are you talking about??
Somehow this pisses off my lifegain centric local meta more than screaming nemesis.
>>97516698explain >>97516693
>>97516698>>97516689
>>97516703>>97516706>one product is an exception>uses it as unequivocal factOkay now show the other 30k cards in other languages.
>>97516709you missed the point, retard-kun.anon was worried about the legality of a product he bought, given that nowhere shows said product in japanese, including scryfall.
>>97516572its real but the cards aren’t worth shit.you paid way over their value.best one i believe is from FF9 ($ wise)
Whatever happens on Monday, a significant portion of the playerbase will be upset.
>>97516790And I will enjoy every second of it. Do we know what time and how they're going to announce it? Post an article on the webpage or twitch stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iSgJE0zpDIOk which one of you is this?
>>97516790If Magic gives a shit about the health of commander, they will ban thassas and unban nothing.
>>97516808basedfuck that troon "professor"
>>97516808this guy looks retarded
>>97516629Game changing cards tend to stay stable afaik. Good card is good card, doesn't matter if or when WotC recognizes it as a good card
>>97516739The FF9 one is good. I went in on a box of it since I wanted most of the cards. A weird offensive Fog (I love fogs), Gruul stompy retard legend (I love Gruul stompy retards), a loopable Wizard generator I'm not sure if I'll actually play in Kuja (I have Kuja built and I play him a lot), a cheap white legend dig spell triggered by combat (Ardbert is one of my favorite decks), and Megaflare is a pretty decent pseudo-edict in something like Anzrag or Mr. Orfeo. I had to add $15 to the price of the scene box since I needed to get some humidity packets to untaco the cards since WotC insists on making their promos foils.>>97516808Based. Fuck that annoying tranny chaser. Him having a ton of clout in the community and pulling interesting people as guests is completely undeserved and ruined by him having an intolerable personality, Every time he has a guest I want to watch they're at the table with some no-name tranny or the professor himself is laying his grumpy faggot routine on too hard.
>>97516880is the ff1 the worse of the scene boxes?
>>97516827He looks fine.>>97516821If Im being honest, I dont really blame the professor or think he is any sort of malicious actor. I do think he should support a different charity. Lets be honest, a suicide phone line is something I think EXTREMELY few people would actually use, especially when you limit its scope to a very small subset of the population (albeit one that is disproportionally suicidal).I think the professor buys into it because he lives in a liberal city and taught at a fucking community college which means he has beenn constantly surrounded by halfwits and trannies for his entire adult life. Also hes just straight up a boomer so I think the notion of a phoneline still sounds reasonable to him because in his mind its still 2003 and cordless phones are the hot new thing. I do think he has genuine empathy for the people around him but hes just too stupid to realize that maybe all these people don't actually know what is best for themselves and that maybe its a cultist following in many cases.
>>97516831>Good card is good card, doesn't matter if or when WotC recognizes it as a good cardI think it does increase the value (marginally, over time) because it makes the card more visible to retards who just want to run high power decks but in general suck at the game.
>>97516898prof isn't a malicious actor yesbut he's very foolish which is a danger in itself
>>97516808Isn't that the guy who got his ass kicked by a homo at Gencon lmao
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>>97516808I thought he said he quit
>>97516821>>97516880At the LGS yesterday 2 completely unconnected people had TCC deck boxes, I was taken aback that these people actually fucking exist.
>>97516898>I do think he should support a different charity. Lets be honest, a suicide phone line is something I think EXTREMELY few people would actually useReminder the co-founders were ousted for embezzling charity funds
Is there a fun way to do Voltron that doesn't just amount to shitting out auras and equipments for several turns before taking out a player and becoming archenemy?
>>97516808>Jeremy Hambly>the Quarter Pounder>the guy who flexes his rolex watches and exotic fish tank and then cries that he's broke and people need to buy his coffeeHE'S BROKEHE SHITS HIS PANTSHE FIRED AN EMPLOY BEFORE CHRISTMAS JUST TO CUT COSTShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j786xoa8mT8
>>97516930And the hotline has always been completely non-functional no matter how much money was dumped into their coffers. It's literally a scam.
>>97516953HE'S FAT
>>97516949You can play feather and spam pump cantrips every turn or green tifa with land bullshit, but no, that's the point of voltron to make one very big guy that only needs to do 51% base health pool to knock someone out.
>>97516891Probably FF1 or 15. Fishing Pole is good but Noctis is not as good as his description makes him appear, he only comes back during combat so you can't equip him with anything but the free equip from his effect, plus he leaves you without a defender. The rest of the cards are liquid shit. FF1 has a some decent cards but none of them stand out as particularly amazing. Garland is super fun though in monarch decks because he punishes people for stealing the buff from you. FF8's box WOULD be shit but Duelist Flame and Fatal Clash are genuinely good cards and Edea is fun. Rinoa, Squall, and Seifer are unfortunately dogshit.
>>97516949Battle Cry or Exalted. This is one of the OGs
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>>97516808>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iSgJE0zpDI>I donated $1000>Called my CC company and told them there is fraud on my account and credited it back >mfw
>>97516972>Noctis is not as good as his description makes him appear, he only comes back during combat so you can't equip him with anything but the free equip from his effect, plus he leaves you without a defenderI think people just build him wrong. He is so much better as just a static effect on your board. If you get 1 myriad creature to attack that's 3 free equips which is absolutely insane.I think a lot of people think you need to equip to either him or the creature that enters when that is not the case at all.
>>97517050Myriad might work, but that's so much setup...I feel like Sokka and Suki is just straight better for that idea, though I suppose if you want esper over jeskai there's an argument to be made there.
>bracket 4, ultra sweaty mono-colored decks of each of the five colors in a podWhich color would win the most?
>>97517080Blue or red probably. Depends entirely on the commanders, but blue is either going to slow everyone down long enough to get their win con or red will aggro through everyone quickly enough.
>>97517086Lmao you're retarded. Aggro is awful in commander. Maybe he'll take down one or two players. It's between green and blue.
>>97517104>he's never heard of godo
>>97517086>>97517104It would be either red with Magda or blue with Urza, the latter is probably the strongest in a """""fair""""" scenario
>>97517080Blue > Black > Red/Green >>>>> White
>>97517109Godo is combo, not aggro, and it is incredibly vulnerable to any interaction at all. Magda is probably a better commander in this scenario.
>>97517130Having less blue in the pod would make Godo more likely to resolve. It's why I think black with K'rrik might be as good as Urza in this scenario. Urza having all of the unfair interaction that makes blue necessary in cEDH still makes me think he still has the edge.
>>97517138That's fair, but I doubt an Urza in a pod will let the Godo resolve lmao. This group is all getting pulled into stax hell.
>>97517138I think Sephiroth might be better then K'rik here.
>>97517144K'rrik discounting mono black combos is too big to ignore.
>Lumra>Urza>K'rrik>Magda>?????Are there even any competitive monowhite commanders in the level of these?
>>97517163The closest we can get to that is Oswald Fiddlebender anon. Even Colorless has a better commander (Zhudolok). The absolute state
>>97517163Wasn't heliod the second pretty decent for a while?
>>97516813Thoracle is banned as long as you stay in your lane, b2 baby
>>97517163Light-Paws I guess but she doesn't hang with the big boys. >>97517172That was the Azorius flip Heliod. The one that gives your shit flash and a scaling discount based on how many cards your opponents have drawn that turn.
>>97517181It's funny because she is an utter monster in Leviathan, Duel and other 1v1 formats. She's pratically deterministic. Drop two Auras and she will have protection against everything, indestructible, double strike lifelink hexproof +30/+30. Either sac/exile boardwipe or die.
>>97517041Chargeback fraud which in itself is in fact a crime.
>>97517163Yawgmoth is probably better than k'rrik. Liberator is unironically good, but that doesnt count. Anyways, no. White doesnt have anything like that.
>>97517041What happens if you do this and the money was already spent? Do they go to the person you donated it to demand it back?
>>97517187Absolutely. She's one of my few bracket 4 decks since she's completely ignorant. Depending on if your pod is playing assuming it's cEDH or simply the highest power before you reach meta cEDH you can play a bunch of one sided board wipes. Avatar's Wrath is one of the funniest cards I've ever resolved in bracket 4. Fuck all your shit, no you don't get it back, no you don't get to Breach, no you don't get to recast your commander, and whoever is the biggest threat is dying right now.
Typically I play in a three-man podYesterday for the first time in a long time I played in a four-man pod. My ducks didn't do nearly as well and I felt starved for removal and board wipes. The dynamic of adding a fourth player completely changed the game and a lot less of my permanants survived the whole round Does anyone else have this issue? Are my decks truly underpowered or is this just what playing with four is like all the time? Also I crashed my car on the way home
>>97517263>Typically I play in a three-man podSounds like hell.>My ducks didn't do nearly as well and I felt starved for removal and board wipes.No shit.>Are my decks truly underpowered or is this just what playing with four is like all the time?You been building decks to play against literally 2 opponents of course it's going to be different. It's basically a different game.>Also I crashed my car on the way homeOkay.
>>97517263I played in a 6 man last night and the first time a creature made it to untap was turn 7.
>>97517177>Most brain dead and "toxic" win that CEDH has to crutch toNah. Get rid of it and make people get good.
>>97517283>>Most brain dead and "toxic" win that CEDH has to crutch toTrue. I saw a guy lose 2 games and then ask if he could play his cEDH deck. He Thoracled and the rest of us just agreed to continue playing. I literally don't even know what the point was, guess he can tell himself he won but functionally was it any different to actually losing first?
>>97517331Classic, really dusted that one off. Yes, he won, from a functional perspective.
>stop playing control it's mean>stop playing combo it's mean>stop playing aggro it's meanfor fuck's sake
>>97517450I'm going to crash this pod, no survivors
>>97516702I had someone on spelltable concede to this yesterday for "not being able to play the game".All he had was an essence warden without any synergies btw
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>>97517450Stop playing EDH if you dont want to play with retards.
>>97517420>Yes, he won, from a functional perspective.If you win without affecting anyone's board in any way whatsoever and they all agree to continue playing did you really win?
they really banned dockside for shitting on all the retards dumping artifact tokens and mana rocks into play
>>97517503Yup. That's the rules of the game and three players are being sore losers. You dont have to play with him again, but that game is over when he won, the person you didnt like won by the rules of the game, and continuing to play after that in the same game is hilariously petty. Just shuffle up and tell him to fuck off if you want to be cool.
>>97517553They are petty, not the guy who got so salty about losing he brought cedh to a casual table?
>>97517563You can always say no. Ask anything you want. Once people have accepted the conditions of the game, taking your calvinball home and pouting is no longer the high ground. Telling him to fuck off? Perfectly reasonable.
>>97517450EDH is not a proper game, it's a social lubricant.
>>97517553>three players are being sore losersNo one was sore, we were all just bored. Everyone knows how Thoracle goes, so we sat there for a couple minutes watching him talk through the combo, he goes "and I win the game" and someone goes "is it okay if we keep playing?" and he sat there and watched the game continue without him. Literally pic related.You're projecting all this anger because, inexplicably, winning in a casual format seems to matter to you so you think someone else winning matters to the other players at the table.>>97517578>You can always say noPeople aren't in the habit of telling other people they can't play.>taking your calvinball home and pouting is no longer the high groundThat's literally what you're describing by telling people they should boot someone out of a pod after playing 2 games with them
>>97517589There's a big difference between immediately and directly saying no, telling him no thanks, and not playing with him, versus whatever it is you think you're doing. Again, nothing wrong with telling him to fuck off immediately, playing mean girls clique style games is unquestionably a larger magnitude of faggotry.This is the law if you want internet cool guy points, or online sympathy points. Otherwise? You only get faggot points, and ironically, greater faggot points than he did.
>>97516322>sold almost entirely on the Willy Wonka model of the 1/1 Ring More like sold on the set being pushed as fuck
>>97517610>versus whatever it is you think you're doingWhich was everyone saying "its chill bro play whatever" and then continuing when he won as we all expected him to.>Again, nothing wrong with telling him to fuck off immediatelyDifference of opinion.>playing mean girls clique style gamesThis is completely projection on your part and says a lot about your insecurities.Again, you massively overvalue winning in a casual format. It matters to you, so it's inconceivable that other people wouldn't be mad that someone thoracles but rather they're just bored and continue the game afterwards.>if you want internet cool guy points, or online sympathy pointsAsked for neither. You can see the original context here:>>97517283>>97517331I agreed that it's a braindead wincon, nothing more nothing less. The point of the anecdote was that the guy lost 2 games, was desperate for a win so played thoracle, but everyone at the table just viewed it as an inconvenience because everyone knows how thoracle is played and no one is impressed to see it happen, such so that it might as well not have happened at allIn that guy's mind he won, but he does not have the self awareness to realize the effect he had on the game was the same as if he lost instead
>>97517628That's a lot of words and assumptions to say you dont want to have a conversation with a man to get cool guy internet points and ensure he has faggotry points, but instead would prefer to invert the paradigm and be a big faggot. This is universal in every situation. If you can have a conversation to avoid a problem, do it. If you choose not to have a conversation, any and all pettiness reflects on you, not the person you're complaining about.You do you anon. Now you know better. And this is a choice.
>>97517643You're absolutely seething about intentions that didn't happen, both in the anecdote and in its retelling.What is it you want out of this interaction anon?
>>97517563You literally let him. He asked if he could bring the deck. You said yes.
>>97517651Yes yes, rudimentary bait.Ignoring that, simple: have a conversation. Like an adult. State your opinions directly and clearly. Then? Complain all you want. Otherwise? You my friend are doing what you would describe as "projecting" and "coping".He asked. You were cool with it. You didnt have to be cool about it. And you certainly werent cool about it, and are continuing to be upset by it after the fact.
>>97517661Yes because, again, there is a difference of opinion about "telling people to fuck off"You're a turbo autist who also has no context of the situation and so you think poor choices are a social norm, that is your problem and no one else's.>>97517663>have a difference of opinion>THIS MUST BE BAITHoly shit how do you even get through life living like this>State your opinions directly and clearlyLike right here? >>97517628>I agreed that it's a braindead wincon, nothing more nothing less. The point of the anecdote was that the guy lost 2 games, was desperate for a win so played thoracle, but everyone at the table just viewed it as an inconvenience because everyone knows how thoracle is played and no one is impressed to see it happen, such so that it might as well not have happened at all>In that guy's mind he won, but he does not have the self awareness to realize the effect he had on the game was the same as if he lost insteadWhich you then proceeded to misconstrue yet again?>you certainly werent cool about it, and are continuing to be upset by itI don't know how many more different ways I can put the same point to you:No one was upset.Everyone was bored.Winning in a casual format seems to matter to you a lot.You therefore think that other people must be mad about a win.Seek an autism diagnosis if you do not already have one.
>>97517682That's nice. You are still upset, shitposting at length, pretending to be a cool guy, making up excuses to justify your position, when all you needed to do was say no, and you'd have been able to skip all that.
>>97517682You could have just said "no, dude, we're not playing at that level." It was that simple. He asked if he could play that deck, literally just day no.As it stands, you let him bring a deck explicitly meant to play any wincon no matter how unfair. He Thoracled and won. Now you're trying to convince yourself that no, he didn't win, even when he played the card that says "you win the game." If you didn't want him to Thoracle, then you could have told him no.
>>97517691>You could have just said "no, dude, we're not playing at that level." It was that simple.WEDIDNOT CAAAAAAAAAAREWould you like me to say it 100 more times anon? Shall I write it out by hand and mail it to you?No one fucking cared that he played a cEDH deck, no one cared that he won with thoracle, the entire point of the story is that it mattered to him and no one else, everyone else just agreed to continue playing because his "win" was meaningless to everyone except him
>>97517695You care enough that you want thoracle banned though
>>97517698Nope, would you like to invent any other facts in this game of retards?
>>97517695You cared enough to complain about it here.
>>97517695Seems like you care quite a lot, using capslock, writing hyperbole, posting at the speed of light, pretending he didnt win, pretending the point in the story was you didnt care that he won when you cared enough to break the rules of the game. And it appears to have been meaningful to the extent you didnt accept it, despite knowing what would happen, while thinking people would go "hells yeah anon".Next time, tell him no. Then people might say "hells yeah".
>>97517701Imagine if you presented (insert your favorite wincon here) and we just decided to keep playing without youThat's you having a melty and you're already backtracking from your own posts just to hide your own embarassment haha
>>97517702>>97517704Someone mentioned thoracle being braindead and I agreed with an anecdoteEverything after that is me caring about turboautists who are medically incapable of distinguishing their own thoughts from the behavior of others telling me I had intentions which I have explicitly explained I did not have.>>97517715My wincons would affect the board in a way you couldn't ignore because they're not braindead like thoracle
>>97517724nope my wincons are better and more brainy than yours because i said so kekw
>>97517730Not hard to be brainier than>I have no library therefore win
>>97516440Pretty low. I've adopted a really aggressive playstyle to combat my group's slow-ass playing. I go for as much damage as possible as fast as possible to everyone, including myself. Burn everything to the ground and hope I survive, basically. I tend to get knocked out first but it helps the games go fast. This has usually guaranteed us at least 2 games each session.
>>97517732it's not hard to be brainier than (You), which is the whole pointanyways, enjoy having thoracle be legal and be regarding as the gold standard of combos for all eternity lol
>>97517724Other than the mad part. You know, the part where you were mad, mad enough because you cared about thoracle that you are still shitposting about how you were super cool for breaking the rules of the game, despite being warned what would happen. You know, instead of saying "no" then explaining why.
Rate my "weaker" UB Slop deck, Wanted something to power down to that still feels unique and like I'm using my brain to play.Tech is to cheat webslingers out early with 1 drop dorks, replay cheap creatures with useful ETBs all the while making humans with Silk.Want to keep it budget-ish, the expensive cards in the list I already own.
>>97517741>mad enough because you cared about thoracleThis did not happen.>you are still shitposting about how you were super cool Neither did this.
>>97517746See:>>97517695
>>97517450Everyone hates something in this game. Your favorite deck ever that you lovingly crafted and honed over dozens of games? It's a soulless slop pile with a shit commander to someone else and it literally does not matter what it is, someone hates it.
>>97516808>trying to be le edgy right wing magic content creatorDoesn't work. That's why Jeremy had to fuck off to video games he didn't play.Also cringe AF unc
>>97517450post-bracket commander is just dead by daylight but everyone is a survivor and thinks their opponents are the killers.
>>97517589You're a faggot sore loser and if I was the owner I'd call the cops and tell them you are refusing to leaveWithout ever asking you to leave.
>>97517616That was part of it but the bulk of the sales hype was the golden ticket. The fact that they think they can make it happen again without the 1/1 Ring in The Hobbit is hilarious. It's like they didn't learn anything from the last time someone tried to make The Hobbit fit into the same mold as The Lord of the Rings.
>>97517783They literally did it again faster without the One Ring in FIN
>>97517695>I'M NOT MAD. DO NOT PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT I AM MAD
>>97517791Because Final Fantasy was handled better as an actual set and had the perfect overlap of people who weren't buying Magic cards who would buy Magic cards if they were appealed to. 30-50 year old nerds love FF. 25 year old trannies and weebs love FFXIV. And I mean REALLY love FFXIV. Japan and weebs who are already engrossed in other TCGs and already spend money on it as a hobby had a reason to buy Magic instead of some other TCG. LotR really only had the nostalgia bracket in common with Final Fantasy. The rest of it was normalfags trying to pull a modern base set PSA 10 Charizard out of a pack they could buy at Walmart.
>>97517797The race swapping in LotR makes it look like it was made by people who hate LotR. FF looks and plays like it was made by people who love FF.
>>97517080Anyone not saying Red is just silly considering Red's the only one with actual tournament results.
>>97517809Lumra, K'rrik and Urza all have tournament results. Hell, Lumra's currently better then Magda. Zhudolok can be competitive with zero (0) colors you know, why not monoblue or monogreen
>>97517809Hasn't Lumra won some events?
>>97517822Yes. It's a respectable deck. Around 1.5% meta share (which is a lot for cEDH, Rograkh + Thrasios is 5%)
>>97517822ah fuck you got me i forgot about the bear
>>97517844Selvala also sneaks into top cuts occasionally.
>Jackie Chan1RWWMinion Performer Legend2/2First Strike, 1/1 creaturewalkCreatures with Jackie Chan in their name get +1/+1 for each creature with Jackie Chan in their name on the battlefield. If a creature would enter the battlefield, it's controller instead may have it enter as a copy of Jackie Chan, except it's name is 'It's not Jackie Chan', otherwise, that creature deals damage to it's controller equal to it's power.
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>>97516440>What is your win percentage?How the fuck would I know?
Can this thing come off the game changer list already? It's completely embarrassed itself since coming off of the banlist and is clearly not the bogeyman boomers hyped it up as. Not worth blowing a GC slot for. Panoptic Mirror too.
>>97518094Look at this dude, he plays with brackets.
>>97518094There's not a fixed number of "slots" for the GC list although Gavin seems to think otherwise with removing Deflecting Swat.
>tqi play chadiki-jiki, so my win rate is around 70%.combo player i am.
>>97518107Look at this dude, he only plays in his basement
>>97518094>this is a game changer, yet Vorniclex is not, Kokusho, formerly banned is not, yet zesty elf is still bannedFuck.
>>97518129Yes? Beside my fridge full of beer, with my friends, and snacks.
>>97518108By "slots" he meant the 3 GC limit in b3, not that i expect filthy casuals to understand the implications of that
>>97518140Yes that's right contain yourself in your basement away from polite society>beer and snacksKeep yourself alive long enough to see wotc unban so many toys that people think you're a schizo for still clinging on to the old RC rules and no one plays with you anymore lol
>>97518139Vorniclex is MLD
I went to the LGS today to get some trading in and I figured I'd play a single EDH game. One of my opponents who had foil full art (non-p9) moxes, among other full art foils, legitimately thought that X=1 when determining the CMC of cards in the library and then proceeded to confuse Discover with Cascade.I hate you fuckers so damn much.
Is the new shitling going to be a new "hard 4 and cedh commander" or is all the fucking hype going to die down so she stops mooning cards I want for other shit?
Anyone have a decent beginner (as in new to commander) friendly decklist that I could take and be reasonably successful at locals with?
>>97518146You can play whatever you want if we're friends and you ask nice. Almost everyone has expensive cardboard. Anyone who doesnt is welcome to use whatever proxies they want, and I have a proxied powered vintage cube anyone is free to borrow whatever from. I routinely played in tournaments up to about a year ago when I got busy.Old rules, new rules, it dont matter. Play whatever you want. No one will bitch about it. EDH is the "get hammered and hang out with your friends" format. If you take it seriously, you've missed the point.
>>97517080I think blue and red would have the most individual good commanders. I think red would lean more heavily into Slicer and Magda, but plenty still exist.I think the color that would win the most though would be Green, and that will be solely because of Lumra. Lumra actually gets results in B5 despite having shit stack interaction. The turbo Lumra lists don't really want a slow game and would be playing B5 in B4, but the current midrange B5 ones can absolutely be tweaked slightly to hit that minimum turn time restriction and still fuck the other decks deep.
>>97518196EDH is not friendly to new players. Learn the game first before playing a game that has up to 400 distinct cards in it. Play limited.
>>97518173Me too anon. I had fun for one hour yesterday playing edh. It was nice, I used my whole brain, the games were back and forth and competitive. It was like playing magic. Then some retard said look at my rats deck. And another one said look at my knights deck. And a third one said look at my spirits deck. Then the games turned into show and tell instead of magic where everyone had hurt feelings at least twice while bitching about what they could and couldnt have done.I hate it so much. EDH can be fun. It never is. And the people who find it fun do shit like wait until t4 before casting a spell, or roll a dice to see who gets attacked.
>>97518204Ignore this retarded post
>>97518198>EDH is the "get hammered and hang out with your friends" format. If you take it seriously, you've missed the point.Why do people like this feel the need to even chime in about brackets? Sincerely have fun getting hammered in your basement with your buds, anon. I mean that. But kindly fuck off from discussion about the format if you don't care about the rules.
>>97518198Based
>jew'd lotus unbanned>secret lair featuing lotus announced 2 weeks laterscreencap this post
What cards do you think should be banned from the format? I'll start.
>>97518220I do care about the rules. I follow all of them. I dont care for playing with strangers with rules concerned about keeping people's feelings safr. If I wanted to play a real format, I would and do. If I wanted to get nagged by an autistic person, I'd talk about sonic in gamestop.
>>97518236None
>>97518236Can I not run it in a deck with no way to instantly mill my deck?
>>97518236all of them
they should make two-color backgrounds, but make them so specific that they're basically tailor made for specific background commanders to be able to work in color combos that don't have an alternative.like burakos party in jund, bant vhal for stuff like fortell/plot and top of library, amber self-discard in anything that isn't grixis,
>>97518281Partner exceeding 2 color is ass cancer
>>97518238>i do care about the rules>btw we have unlimited mulligans here because it's a casual formatLol
>>97518303No. You can rule zero a banned card if you arent being a dick and ask first. Vancouver mulligian. We actually skip the free mulligan unless someone new makes a big stink about it.
>>97518316>You can rule zero a banned card if you arent being a dick and ask first.Im sure you will. But would you kvetch about something like emrakul if it's turned into a GC? Ofc you would, because GCs only make sense in brackets and god forbid you use that amirite>we use vancouver instead of londonCase in point you're just a hipster up his own ass lol
>>97518142If that's the argument then the only GCs are FG, CR, RS, and TOR.
>>97518337I wouldnt care at all about any of the game changers because it's entirely irrelevant. And london is fine, but we were running into people mulliganing super hard down to like 4 or 5 cards, so we put a stop to it. Dont like it? Run an adequate amount of lands.
>>97518364>Yeah we follow all the rules>So anyway we ignore the rules to the detriment of gameplay because I personally had a problem with itYes I'm sure London mulligan was established because of bad players and not a particular famous incident with two extremely good ones.
>>97516808>nearly 100% of people who have gone into schools/churches and done terrible things are transCan't imagine what it's like to be this disconnected with reality. Even if you don't like the whole trans movement just straight up denying reality like this is fucking wild.
What should I add to finish my izzet group hug deck?https://moxfield.com/decks/HrgzptSJWkOZ_BOczO85uQ
>>97518364>not running the ancient all/no land mulligan rule to prove you run the right amount of lands as garfield intendedHipsters like you can never be taken seriously kek
>>97518378Forgive the quarter pounder as trans people are so mentally ill they are easily mistaken for one and the other
>>97518353wow i can actually run DT VT IS AN MV GM MD OB BC and N in my mono black krrik and blow off the table? nice
What are your hopes, dreams, and expectations for Star Trek?Mine are mono-red Klingon tokens with melee, at least three Romulans with connive, and for Quark to be the best Mardu commander since Eddie Markov
>>97518524I know nothing of Star Trek. So I expect Star Trek stuff
>>97518524the return of battles
>>97518524I hope it's completely rejected and does worse than Spiderman. Star Trek is a shambling corpse that should be forgotten. That said: Naya Kirk, Bant Picard, Mardu Sisko, Grixis Janeway, and Jeskai Archer.
>>97518544There aren't that many really important battles in Star Trek, it's basically Wolf 359 and I'm pretty sure that's gonna be a saga
>>97518524Hopes>It's the final slop to push for the pure UWH formatExpectations>retards froth at the mouth for their new cardboard funkos, expect two UW sets next year.
>>97518551Unlike spiderman, trek has more than enough content to satisfy a full "greatest hits" set. Also unlike spiderman, trek has been in development as a full set for the entire time instead of being a half-set that got mandated to be a full set>>97518555Yeah, that's what mtg needs: another format to be enjoyed by a solid two dozen people
>>97518551>Grixis Janeway,they would never be so based, janeway is going to be green white
>>97518524Galaxy Quest SLD
>>97518553https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQJ4t0s-MFM
>>97518569True, actually
>>97518555>their new cardboard funkosand if it was mtg canon characters they'd be dismissed for being poorly written or the wrong colors or whatever. its a zero sum game youre playing.
>>97518557Spiderman has a ton of material to work with as well. They just fucked up by not making it a commander deck set. Spiderman is also at a cultural high point with Spiderverse, the Playstation games, and the Tom Holland movies being the newest mass consumer content. The last tolerable Star Trek show ended half a year before Ravnica: City of Guilds released.
Will Star Trek have a framing device (time war?) or just free floating cards
>>97518589The latter.They have literally never bothered to even attempt to tie in crossover content with the main game's story. Not even for the D&D cards which are a fantasy IP that wizards owns and has magic crossover content in it.
>>97518585>The last tolerable Star Trek show ended half a year before Ravnica: City of Guilds released.There were 4 and a half tolerable star trek shows; hundreds of hours of content to pick from.
>>97518585Wizards doesn't care. Remember, they STARTED UB with a fucking Walking Dead crossover. In like, 2020. And besides, Star Trek does TECHNICALLY have a new series out recently. The reason I say Technically is becuase it's doing so ridiculously bad that they unironically might try to memory hole the entire thing.
>>97518619they've had like 3 series in just as many years; picard, starfleet academy, the night crew or whatever the animated series is called.
>>97518524Precon for The Next Generation with Picard as face commander. Now tell me which character fits as alt commander?https://youtu.be/5m-x8nrwqx0&t=7
the first UB set was arabian nights
>>97518631data and worf as partners.
>>97518637Unironically it wasn't. Arabian Nights takes place on a plane called Rabiah, which is notable because it's been divided into 1001 versions of the same plane.
>friends agree to let me build Atraxa, Praetors' Voice whacky_counters.dec but only if I agree to never attack/block with her>yes fucks yes.jpg>finally have a home for my pet card>proliferate it up, blast the entire table over and over>keep having counterspells in hand to protect it every turn>it keeps killing everyone, me included, each game it dropsThis is my favorite card ever holy fuck. Having one person at 2 life help protect it with a counterspell because it's about to kill everyone, including another player at 20+ life remaining, is SUBLIME
>>97518648>Rabiah is a collection of one thousand and one originally identical planes, all refracted off of the original Rabiah during the Thousandfold RefractionOkay that's super fucking neato. Also I believe this is the first actual UB card
>>97518648this is the biggest UW cope ive seen this year so far.
>>97518657blow it out your assand the ub guy can blow it out his ass too
>>97518657Unironically it isn't. Taysir is a planeswalker from the plane (Who's feat was managing to get all 1001 versions of himself to be a single guy) and was one of the planeswalkers that helped Urza fight off the original phyrexian invasion and used to be the strongest of all planeswalkers (pre urza, though even post its uncelar where he ranks)
>>97518648this is/was a retcon
>>97518680No.As I said here >>97518669 there was a planeswaker from the plane that existed prior to the first planeswalker-based retcon, showed up in the lore on occasion and participated in Invasion block where he was ultimately killed (though not in a straight up fight)
>>97518690this was a retcon
>>97518680>>97518696Incorrect. Taysir's origins come from a comic published in '95-96 that tell the story of the Arabian nights set.
>>97518700And Arabian Nights is from 1993
>>97518700Funny how this isnt a retcon when Arabian Nights was released in 1993
>>97518707>>97518708Comics take time to make. And also money. Money that a no-name game from a no-name company that had to resort to asking friends and family to provide card art for the first set wouldn't have.
>>97518714Araban Nights began as a different game that was later turned into the expansion sets we now know today. It was only given its official place in magic lore 2 years later. Before that there's no reason to think it was or wasn't part of the same magic lore as the alpha/beta/revised set.
>>97518112bfjs
The Sixteenfold Refraction (colloquially known as Aeterna or The Lensed World) is a unique planar cluster within the Multiverse. Unlike traditional planes that consist of a single world or a chaotic "shards" system like Alara, the Refraction is a singular metaphysical entity that has been split into exactly sixteen distinct iterations.Ugin theorizes that the plane was once a unified world of immense power. At some point in the pre-Mending era, a "Calamity of Chaos" (referenced in various texts as Discordia) struck the plane’s core. Instead of being destroyed, the plane’s protective mana barrier acted as a prism, shattering the reality into sixteen distinct, parallel versions of itself.et voila. I've created a UW set.
>>97518752kino
>>97518726cool headcanon anon legit would upvoote!!
>>97518752>Ugin theorizesnot this faggot, again.stopped reading.
Before I learned what it meant, I thought EDH stood for "every deck hero" or something to that effect
>>97518752a uw set of what?
>>97518429You can try using them as your GCs. You're just going to lose to someone with RS/TOR because as it turns out drawing cards is broken. Maybe you can get around it with R/S AN though.
>>97518752>Ugin theorizesThis mf isn't theorizing shit other than how much Bolas's asshole is going to gape after the next rutting session.LORE FAIL.
>>97518524>Quark to be the best Mardu commander since Eddie MarkovSorry but he better not be better than my husband
>>97518524Riker with populate
>>97518648And Baghdad exists in a parallel universe there?
>>97518794fuck you, thats funnier than it should be.
My LGS has 2 headed giant commander nights now. I played 2 games of it. It is fun. I played Taii Wakeen. I played pic rel and left one open mana. My partner contributed 3 mana. Then in what will go down as one of the biggest and most btrain rotted blunders in commander history, my opponent contributed 5 mana for a total of 10. Then i spent my last red to cast blazing volley to wipe their 1/1s and draw 20 cards. Needless to say, my team won.
>>97518752Zero fucking effort. You literally just said "the plane has 16 pieces."Here, I'll do one. As a challenge, I'll make it a set about fucking Ikoria meeting New Capenna specifically because these are two dogshit planes nobody liked.An omenpath opens between Ikoria and New Capenna, and the conflict begins almost immediately. New Capenna's families are quick to begin sending out expedition squads searching for new resources, but are quickly met with the ire of monsters whose territory they're invading. Weaponry is upgraded in short order to accommodate the massive threats, and after taking down their first monster, the families of New Capenna make a discovery beyond anything they could have expected: The monsters bleed Halo.Well, not quite Halo. But it's very close to Halo, and can easily be refined into a substance that is functionally identical. Apparently the very same lifeblood that allows the monsters to adapt and mutate so quickly possesses the same properties that make Halo so desirable.The fallout is instant and enormous. Immediately the five families are confronted with the disastrous prospect of Halo experiencing hyperinflation, and with it, their influence. What was once a small effort quickly spirals into complete and total mobilization, each family fighting to keep their place on top of New Capenna's order as a newfound enormous supply threatens to leave their most valuable resource worthless... unless they can be the one controlling the new supply.Ikoria isn't faring much better. Conflict erupts between hunters and bonders. The hunters see the New Capennans as savors doing charity work, hunting massive monsters and asking for nothing in return, bringing safety to the turbulent life caused by Drannith's collapse. However the bonders see it as poachers threatening to devastate the ecosystem. Existing tension between bonders and hunters now threatens to erupt, compounded by New Capenna's hunting parties growing increasingly aggressive.
>>97518843>Zero fucking effort. You literally just said "the plane has 16 pieces."congratulations. you almost got it.
>>97518843>IkoriaI liked mutate
>>97518848You shouldn't hold yourself to the same standard Mark Rosewater does when making sets.
>>97518843and this is how we get Pacific Rim in mtg. The five families make titans of industry to fight the various super massive kaijus, which grow/evolve/breed at an accelerated rate to combat the invading capaennians.
>>97518843>An omenpath opensstopped reading.come up with something new next time, troon.
>>97518524> dust to dust reprint> reprint of pic rel featuring captain janeway (holy kino!!!)> garak partners with bashir> borg with manifest dread mechanic> tittilating art of Dr. Crusher> Kirk with trample haste first strike in gruul> yugioh-esque Dax cards that tutor up a different Dax when sent to the gy> hull breach reprint> serialized enterprise> modal card Set Phasers to ____> tittilating art of 7/9> Treble: hybrid B/G, sacrifice a food, make a copy of this creature> temporal trespass reprint> official names for 4 color pairs:> klingon sans blue> federation sans black> vulcans sans red> founders sans white> borg sans green
>>97518856>Stopped reading there. Try harder.
>>97517803>FF looks and plays like it was made by people who love FF.Trannies?
>>97518871you are rapidly running out of buzzwords.
>>97518524My hope is the set gets cancelled, as does all UB
>>97518882blue and black do need to be put on the backburner for a few sets, yeah.
Real poopdickschizo hours
>>97518881How is “trannies” a buzzword? Go ahead, explain to the class.
>>97518885Haha never heard that one before, I’m doubled over laughing irl. How do you come up with this stuff anon?
>>97518887i dunno, spam it some more and I'll get back to you.
There were 2 trannies at commander night tonight. Why do they have to be so into male hobbies like mtg...
>>97518900Concession accepted
>>97518908I'm sorry was that a fight in your eyes?
>>97518904The sad reality is that autistic people are massively over-diagnosed as trannies.I’m actually not someone who despises trannies, I think there’s a legitimate basis for a small fraction of the popularity to experience a mismatch between the structure of their brain and their physical biology, but the problem is how do you prove its existence? Currently all we can trust is self-reporting, and there exists a culture of not questioning a person’s self identification.That leads to autistic people who obviously don’t fit in and feel awkward all the time pinning those feelings on being in the wrong body rather than just being fucking autistic. And when they come out in leftist circles (as it inevitably is) they receive nothing but praise and validation from their peers. I’ve even seen bio-women go out of their way to pay the manliest low effort troons compliments about their outfits because that’s just the social game women play.At any rate they finally praised for being different rather than ostracized, confirming to them that this was always the problem and not their rampant autism.And the connection to Magic is that this is perhaps the single most autistic rule set I have ever seen. Literal hundreds of pages upon pages of rules, bizarre idiosyncrasies like the difference between attacks and attacking. It’s the most autistic game ever made. I think partly that’s why Yugioh was always more popular on the playground despite in some ways being a more complex game
>>97518923I dont despise them but I also dont want to indulge their delusions. I dont want to have to lie about seeing them as males which they are.
>>97518930I would be willing to indulge a small number of true trannies, if they put in the effort. Problem is I’d say the ligetimate ones exist at of a rate maybe 1000 times lower than current numbersTheres about 4 or 5 at my LGS with a player population of 60. Massive over representation.
>>97518935>Theres about 4 or 5 at my LGS with a player population of 60.Grim.
>>97518950The craziest thing is you wouldn’t know from just looking, not because they pass so well you’d think they’re real women, but because some of them literally do nothing to look feminine except have long hair and then you play against them and they’re like >my name is Lylaor some shit.
>>97518961There is one at my lgs that plays commander and might be 'non binary'? I never asked and I always avoid using pronouns when taking about xie/xer. There is a lovable retard at my lgs who plays with us, and he ALWAYS calls this tranny as he/him loudly. I dint think he's even trying to be an asshole, hes just genuinely kind of dumb. But its sure funny and simultaneously The Office level of awkward humor every time he does it.
Autum is a woman
>>97518650>no red for decent into avernus
Dong unironically has one of my highest winrates right now
>>97516949>>97516960How about shitting out instants and sorceries for several turns
>>97518752Is not that just Rabiah but you replaced 1000-fold refraction with 16-fold refraction?Tbh, I'd like Rabiah to get it's own identity and more focus on the 1000-fold refraction. MaRo stated that they don't want to come back to it because it's based on real stories but they designed Eldraine for fuck's sake. Just put fantasy paincoat on Arabian fairytales and it will be okay.Story-wise it can be interesting - I don't think that it was explained what happened with Taysir's spirit after Windgrace sealed it inside of himself and then later died and was buried in Urborg. Make ghost of Taysir come back to Rabiah after overly long travel through vast eternities and explore how his homeland changed, how events of the past became fantasy stories, how he's remembered by various people in different ways. Maybe throw some bad guy into the mix - some nasty fuck plotting something in Rabiah or maybe an undead Windgrace chasing Taysir to seal him back in his chest like an obsessive gay furry lover.Mechanics? Strong focus on tribals - humans, ifreets, djinns, a zoo/animal menagerie series of cards supporting generally "animal" creature types, a handful of legendaries ignoring legendary rules to represent 1000-fold refraction, maybe Abu Ja'Far/Raghib still sticking around as he was a weird dude implied to be a planeswalker.
>>97518752This is a UW of the Cosmere Sanderson-verse, isn't it? You just replaced Adonalsium with Discordia
any reason why this fucker is so expensive?
>>97519390Same reason this dude is, incredible important cards for sea monster tribal but only ever printed once.
>>97519392I got the serpent for about 7€ but had to pay like 17 for spawning kraken. I know they are both important but cant believe so many people are playing sea monsters
>>97519390>>97519392similarly to angels/dragons and other garbage tribes, only retards and normies go for them ie the majority of EDHfags, hence the prices.
>>97519416As we all know, all tribes are garbage except for one
So I got the foil borderless Infamous Cruelclaw from my collector sample pack with my Bloomburrow commander deck. Is this a card I could build around and have a decent deck?
>>97519460>worldfire>98 landshave fun
>>97518524Partner with Ferengi
>>97518524Changelings
>>97519416tribals are fun. why do you say normies go for tribals lol
>>97519390>>97519392They really should make a batch keyword for sea monsters
>>97518619Lower Decks is a love letter to all of Trek and I won’t hear anything bad said about it.
Should I build Krenko, and if so what should I expect to pay for Bracket 2 deck that I could conceivably upgrade to a higher bracket?
>>97519545>this asshat "comedy" series is a loveletter to serious political scifi
Brewing a devoid-focused deck, go wide eldrazi, basically. Any suggestions for cuts would be appreciated as I have 9 too many cards still. Maybe cut some ramp? Not sure what else.https://moxfield.com/decks/AC5SWXF31EeMfcV7bT_aLg
>>97519530no they shouldnt. its cool that its not just one creature type but a big family of evil sea monsters who are all their own type but still kinda work together. like a patchwork family
>>97518524low kirkenuinely scute swarm tribbles
>>97519563Just like Outlaws
>>97519530Leviathan could easily cover octopus and kracken. Fish could also cover shark. There are still tons of types that could just be wizard. There are lots of types they could join, yeah.
yea and you could put all mammals into one category too. its gonna get boring.
>>97519604There only need to be six creature types.>Employed>Unemployed>Human>Non-Human>Homarid>Camarid
>two-three weeks ago, traded life finds a way to a friend for 10 dollars worth of stuff>look at the card again>spiked to 30 dollarsDamn. I wasn't ever going to use it, but still is a feels bad
>>97519563Sea monsters should be batched solely because the only time any of those types are mentioned the card mentions all of them. There isn't a card that only helps out the leviathans or the krakens.
>>97519552Like I'm considering this list. Could it be upgraded down the road?https://moxfield.com/decks/yVNZyz_LC0a4we9K4aTD6A
I have an old WB politics deck focused around Athreos. Lots of death triggers and sac stuff designed around helping certain players if they agree to give me the fodder back to hand.The deck has been a lot of fun but I feel like it's been left behind due to powercreep. What are some changes I could make while still keeping the spirit of the deck intact?
>>97519759hurr I'm retardedhttps://moxfield.com/decks/DVdhKrZSzU-3ucsUIKVYLw
>>97519759>>97519762Politicking as a theme can only go up to b2 power level at most (i'm actually tempted to think of it as a b1 meme like chaos and mill) so imo commit to the bit
>>97518980Ironically as a vague sort of fag it's way easier playing with chuds and retards than other queers and wokes at the LGS because the latter will stammer and stumble over pronouns until I have to tell them I don't care what they call me. The former just gets on with the game.
>>97519788>Politicking as a theme can only go up to b2 power level at mostI think that depends on what you mean by being on theme. You can build decks that see opponents as a resource against your other opponents versus decks that just sort of have the idea of begging people to follow your commands.
>>97519815This is just voltron and the worst type of voltron>Give every card to the guy that tapped out>Kill him>Get third place after your two opponents realize they can't let you keep a 20/20
>>97519822i was just thinking of it being a crime generator that eventually turns into a draw opponents out combo, with maybe a big combat swinger as a backup
>>97519834>combo deck with a big dumb creature as a backupA fine strategy, but i hesitate to still call that a politics deck
>>97519852Well you use effects that play with multiplayer to stall til you can assemble that combo. Feeding a player cards you think will eat aggro but not actually kill you.
>>97518923>I think partly that’s why Yugioh was always more popular on the playground despite in some ways being a more complex gameI see you went to the black school growing up
>>97519852Is this a fun commander to run? I've only played two color decks at a max, but I really like what I'm seeing here.
>>97519788I don't know if you looked at the decklist.The politics 'bit' is aggressive problem solving. I try to leverage removal to answer things that are problems for other players and, in return, have them recoup some of the resources I lost using that answer. The purpose of the deck is to decrease the number of resources my opponents have, cards like Shadrix provide my opponents with additional resources.I agree that the deck is not going to be a proper bracket 3 deck (though it will run some gamechangers so thanks to the retarded classification systems it won't be bracket 2) but there is a distinct gameplan and theme and I just want cards that are an upgrade to what I currently have but stick to the same theme.
>>97519937It depends on your playgroup.Korvold is a fun goldfish but runs into the problem of always falling down repetitive lines/synergies and getting a bunch of card advantage. It's like Niv Mizzet, Parun; fun to go off a couple of times but becomes boring after that. You also run into the problem that competent opponents shouldn't let you untap with Korvold in play because you will draw a dozen cards but a lot of the individual cards you play are not outrageously strong on their own so if you are one of the whiny bitchers who say 'why did you target me? I just had <bad cards> in play and wasn't threatening anyone!' when, if your opponent hadn't removed Korvold, they would be drowning in value; the deck will get you very pissy.
>>97519954I was honestly thinking of running it in a Goblin deck as the commander. Mostly cause I like Goblins, but don't want to play Krenko.
>>97519957Oh I see.I feel like Korvold isn't a fantastic commander for what Goblins are doing but I don't know if there are that many better options.If you aren't focusing a lot on tokens you may want to consider Bhaal or Sek'kuar instead? Korvold works best when you are sacrificing a lot of things with death triggers and/or have a lot of permanents that sacrifice themselves as well (treasure tokens being the most obvious/best).What do you want your goblin deck to be doing?
>>97519983>Sek'kuarThis is cool. I'd have to think about what exactly I wish to do.
It's not goblin Trial, but I threw this together based on Sek'kaur and sacing creatures. https://moxfield.com/decks/KElHufeHcE2WquhFDrJHPwWould it be any good if I worked out some upgrades to it?
When you're a child you keep an opening hand with 3 lands and a ramp piece. When you're an adult you keep an opening hand with two lands and removal...
>>97520075in 1v1, yesin multiplayer? extremely stupidin cedh? smart.
>>97520044Anyone? I'm really liking this commander but there aren't a ton of decks on Moxfield that use him.
>>97516619Kettle calling the teapot black lmao
>>97520075>go for 2 land and removal>get land screwed for 7 consecutive turns>player I used removal on hyperfocuses me despite being in no condition to be a threathappens way to fucking much
I demand a 5 color artifact slop commander that draws a card once on my turn whenever an artifact enters or whatever it is that legends do these days.
>>97518811I love that card. So underrated.
>>975175242 mana card that creates 15 mana isn't exactly balanced bro.>j-j-just don't play artifacts or enchantments!Be serious.
>>97520180The goal of the game is to kill people. If you seem easy to kill, it is natural people gang up on you.
>>97520399>waste resources trying to kill guy who's going to die anyway>lose to someone i had to expend some resources to killgod edh players are stupid
>>97520203you'll get it and it'll be a UB that never gets reprinted
>>97520391Dockside will be a GC so you b2 babies will finally know to stay in your lane
>>97520391By the point at which each opponent controls 5 artifacts or enchantments, you’re well past the early game. You might as well complain about a two-mana card that instantly wins the game.
>>97520482>You might as well complain about a two-mana card that instantly wins the game.I would complain about such a card, yes, and I do think Thassa's Oracle should be banned in every format including Vintage, thanks for asking.
>playing edh>2 other players, I go first each round of turns>i'm playing voltron, my commander has vigilance>one guy has no blockers for t4, t5>whack him a few times>"ANON WHY ARE YOU ONLY ATTACKING MEEEEEEEEE">T6, attack the other guy because the whining was so auditorily unpleasant>no-blockers-man plays underworld breach, does a fuck ton of drawing, plays etali and a billion other cards>"hehe you almost got me"Combo players deserve the rope
>>97520533>i thinkFortunately you dont own wotc so we all dodged a bullet here lol
Yes I will pay 7 mana for a pinger, I love pingers. What's the pet you overpay for?
>>97520537If you get that easily swayed by smol beaning you shouldnt be playing a kingmaking strat like voltron
>>97520543At least we agree Dockside should be unbanned if Thassa’s is.
>>97520533Ah, ass ravanged from yesterday. Neat.
>>97520537I run combos, but I also acknowledge myself as a threat even in the absence of a board state. I don’t understand that kind of whining—the fun of a combo is resolving it through resistance and counterplay.
>>97520537This is a you problem.
>>97520578Dockside absolutely should be a GC along with jewlotus and crypt yes, not only to fix the mistake the RC did but also so that bracket 2 players will realize that bracket 3 has a much different meta than just "my pet deck + 3 GCs"
>>97520596It really doesnt. There are only two types of edh: the real feelz crew in brackets 1-3, and people who play edh.
Shahrazhad to GC
>>97520605>there are only two types of 60 card players: vintage and kitchen tableLol
https://archidekt.com/decks/19784538/seky_and_i_know_itI know this deck isn't super expensive, but how am I doing rebuilding this from the ground up. I Have plenty of budget to add a few expensive cards.
>>97520596It feels inevitable, but I can’t decide whether it’s going to be tomorrow or next year.
>>97520615No, there is edh as it always was, and a group of 3 micromanaged hellscapes full of crybullies and derps.
>>97517279>6 manI played in a 5 man and I unironically was the hero the pod deserved by dropping impact tremors, then the warleader's call then purphoros and AOEing the table with token triggers. It was 8 minutes before store closure and it was otherwise fixing to be a slog
Are three player games fun to play or does the lack of a 4th to balance out the politics and have answers make it way too swingy? I ask because I have two friends that want to start playing but we don't have a fourth.
>>97517279Badass. Sounds like a based table.>untap>upkeep>board wipe
>>97520798I've tried playing three player a few times and it's alright but the dynamics are significantly worse. Certain mechanics like Goad also go from strong to complete bullshit.
>>97520798I've played 2 games with only 3 players, different players each time, and both games it was rubberbandy as fuck. Arch-enemy revealed himself turn 3 or 4, got dogged by the other two, and then the player with the weakest board state just combo'd off after the other two players exhausted resources in a 1v1
I met one of you retards I think. >Casual pod at lgs>'yeah this is a 3, but it beats 4s constantly'>'so it's a 4?' >'nope, has 3 game changers, what are you a lawyer?'>has 4 dual lands and combos out on turn 4
>>97520870What was the turn 4 combo line?
>>97520870>"yeah it's a standard deck but it beats legacy decks constantly">it's izzet lessons vs fallen empires block constructed
>>97520873he gifts ungivened storm kiln, curiosity, niv mizzet and some other recursion piece on turn 3, then combo'd out and used a free counterspell to stop removal
>>97520870Wasn't me. I know that my deck with only 2 game changers in it is actually a 4 since it can infinite on turn 3 if absolutely perfect hand an 4-5 regularly.
>>97520882Ah that's a legit b3 deck then, because gifts lile by definition are 3+ card combos and for the guy to gifts t3 means he had to accel further making it "unlikely" (gavin is fine with 3+ combos coming out early as long as it's "not the norm"If it makes you feel better, LGSs by and large modify it to "no infinites/game enders/lockouts before your turn 6 (sometimes 7)">true dualsI'm fine with them, i just dont put them in my b2 decks, because i'm not going to bling out a fucking prius
>>97520877>premodern block constructedI just wanna go backany Hyper Extended enjoyers?
>>97520917I play black white premodern, the exalted angel/eternal dragon type>i also wait for an eventual "postmodern" deck that starts from 8ED to ravnica allegiance (right before FIRE/modern horizons/UB), which i predict will appear around 2030
https://moxfield.com/decks/KbtbcSF2HU-OXPzI2qNNMw I finished a rebuild of this deck, how does it look?
>>97520905Making a deck that combos off before turn 6 is actually very trivialThis is what gavin meant by putting combo turn limitations in the lower brackets, because of the existence of combos from the cz
>>97518637Arabian Nights is not a licensed property, it's a public domain story so old it's basically a cultural building block. You might as well call Alpha the first Tolkien UB set. Infact, that will probably be your next baitpost
>>97520963Also I'm really unsure of the manabase of this deck, any recs you could make there would be appreciated.
>>97520984I didnt know UB meant "licensed intellectual properties beyond"
>>97518524A pair of Meld cards featuring Tuvok and Neelix that becomes Tuvix.
>>97521004Now you do
>>97521041So if mtg were to put a steamboat willy standard set, it would be mtg lore? Nice
>>97517283You dont even play cedh nigger lmao
>absolutely no replyGet wrecked by facts and logic UWfags
>>97521084>try to start an argument>get ignored cause retarded>try againGrim existence.
>>97521143Cant wait for the jacetice league to team up with steamboat willie to fight gay bolas again!
>>97521181Genuinely no idea what youre talking about
>>97521217As long as you understand that arabian nights is the first UB set we're good
>>97521238That aint true. You are free to believe whatever you want to though sport
>>97521277It is true though because arabian nights and steamboat willie are in the public domain and anything in the public domain is mtg lore should wotc allow it as you have just admitted :)
Rules question!Assuming I have infinite mana and every permanent is already on the battlefield, can I steal every land on the battlefield with Yenna, Redtooth Regent's activated ability by targeting Estrid's Invocation (which is a copy of any random enchantment that's not Annex) and having it enter as a copy of Annex?
>>97521291Im afraid that is not what UB is anon. For someone obsessed with facts and logic you shouldve researched. UB is a WOTC distinction, one which they had clearly labeled. Arabian Nights doesnt have that label.>but they label is gone!Arabian nights is from before the label was removed:)You have been outfactsandlogics im afraid.
>>97521324>changes his argument to "UB is what wotc says it is"Cool so no more whining about the new direction of mtg because hey whatever wotc says is correct right? Enjoy your 2 UW sets a year anon pfft
>>97521335I have no clue what youre talking about. I lampooned you, you tried starting an argument, and you were wrong.
>>97521341>tries to play dumb for the 2nd time in a rowAnd this is I'm the target audience now, because UWfags are dumb as bricks and not worth catering to anymore lol
>>97521358This is just sad. Anon i opened this thread for the first time in a week like 30 minutes ago.>>97521143Righg here :D
>>97521316I believe the copy would be a copy of annex so it wouldn't work.
>>97521316I would think that's a no because you copy whatever Estrid's Invocation is at that time so it wouldn't enter as whatever enchantment you choose. I'm pretty sure it does work if you just copy an Estrid's Invocation that isn't a copy of anything though.
>>97521385Sorry, I meant it'd be a copy of the random enchantment and thus wouldn't enter as a clone card and could not copy annex
>>97521390This. Just don't have the first copy anything
>>97520612I scoop
>>97520972Anyone else realize this is almost a carbon copy of the purple-haired liberal in Stonetoss comics?
>Red is the worst color in commander right nowStay in standard faggots, that's where you belong.
>>97521390And Estrid's Invocation is a may effect and it can self-flicker on upkeep if it's already copying something, so assuming it doesn't get interacted with it's something that you could theoretically do. Gotcha.
>>97521405Weird flex but Ill allow it
>>97521373>comments on something he's not involved in and doesnt even backreadMany such cases
>>97520972Wrong. Using existing two card combos making a deck that goes off before turn 6 during goldfishing with a commander who has built in draw and is also part of your combo isnt very hard in magical christmasland. Or copying someone else's list and changing 5ish cards.A deck that goes off consistenly EVERY game by t6 that you brewed? Difficult. Before that? Very difficult. Goes off before turn 5 EVERY game with protection? Preposterously difficult.
>>97521464You didnt tag the argument you just made a random post cause you got ignored nigger. And what im saying is correct, wotc labeled their UB, Arabian nights doesnt have it, therefore its not UB. Anything else is cope.
>>97521399That's swirly
>>97520439god I want this to happen so much so I can finally cash out all my gamechangers
Threadly reminder that Trek always was UW
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
yes yes, arabian nights and p3k sucked too and that's why they didn't stay with the idea of UB
>>97521465Dude sanar pops off with soltice and thoracle, it's not that hard at all
Post a card you want really bad, but you can't justify spending money on it.>pic related
>>97521472And UB is the face of mtg and UW isnt, anything else is cope
>>97521543I wouldn't say either are. But if its important to you to view it that way no one is gunna stop you slugger
>>97521534
>>97521554>UB gets all the funding and a-team>UW gets the b-team and a bunch of errata>um yeah i wouldnt say either areYou're so in denial it's hilarious
>>97521534Wtf that's broken. It just reduces a creatures power to 0 forever?? I don't know what secret lair that is but it is totally broken. It would break the voltron meta in half.
>>97521560Like I said sport if its important to you no one's arguing with ya, youre killing it buddy.
>>97521399I don't read neo nazi comics desu
>turn one burgeoning>drop 3 extra lands while it comes back to me>turn two Boltwave and Indoraptor (enters with 9 +1/+1 counters to be a 12/10)>Turn three Tainted Strike and Fiery Confluence, three Indo triggers, all for 13 infect damage each, one player can’t sac a creature and dies>move to combat, infect Indo with his menace kills another player>pass the turn>simic player takes ten minutes to tutor and then look up how his infinite combo is supposed to work>take a piss, come back, he’s watching a YouTube video trying to figure it out>I scoop It’s a win in my head.
>>97521576Concession accepted
>>97521560Source: the voices in my head told me its true
>>97521584Dont make me upload it
>>97521584This post makes me feel ill.
>>97521584
>>97521581Agreed. I prefer paleo-nazi cpmics.
>>97521510Go on then. Goldfish it. Record each instance in an excel sheet. Document how many times you went off before t6, and what type of protection you have.
>>97521641>cpmicsTypo. You lost.
>>97521581Neither do StoneToss fans
>>97521643>what type of protection you havedo your commanders have removal stapled on them? no? do each of your opponents run 12 removal spells? no?statistically speaking such combos from the cz will always edge out more wins and they do it in such a deterministic noninteractive way that it's no surprise that nobody actually likes to play these thingsgavin for all his faults happened to be wise enough to foresee tryhards abusing this that's why he put combo turn limits in the lower brackets, your inability to see combo lines only speaks to your failure
>>97521672Oh, it's this retard.Anon, I dont care about any of that or Gavin. I am saying, directly, making a deck that combos off before turn 6 every game, particularly with protection, is very hard. Can a deck sometimes win before then, maybe? Sure. But a deck that ALWAYS does through interaction (the bar for being good) is not only very hard to build, but based on your reading comprehension and giant rant about nothing, beyond your capabilities entirely.
>>97521668>fans?
>>97521701>I am saying, directly, making a deck that combos off before turn 6 every game is very hard.it's actually not, sanar combo was found shortly after release>your opponents ALWAYS have it!!if that were the case cedh rogsi wouldn't win a damn thing because it's the fastest deck in all of edh and people will just mull to their interaction, and yet such a deck wins regardless>Oh, it's this retard.but enough about you kek
Hypothetically, I did her bullshit and made a copy of solitude, which needs to be sac'd, then played a spell that populated, and made another copy of solitude, would the populated clause still have the sac clause?It would, right?
>>97521723I dont care about a combo. I dont care about rogsi. I care about YOU building a deck that combos off before t6.And there is only one way to prove it. Build the deck. Goldfish it at MINIMUM 100 times. Document how many mulligans. Which turn you went off. What protection you had. Put it in excel. Show the thread. And the deck will be cross referenced against existing lists to see if you copied and pasted someone else's work. This is nowhere near as easy as you think it is and there will be no further discussion on the topic until you post the spreadsheet and the deck.
>>97521730no
>>97521758>And there is only one way to prove itlol>turn 1 land>turn 2 land>turn 3 land>turn 4 sanar>turn 5 combo offeasy, no mulligan required>nooooo people will always have the removal spell turn 4!kekw i bet you don't even know the belzenlok deck aka godo's ugly cousin, that's how naive you are
>>97521730>would the populated clause still have the sac clause?No? Are you some fucking retard?
>>97521776Go on then. We're waiting. Make the deck. Document it. Put it in excel. Goldfish it. Show your work.
>>97521794sanar, innovative first-yearsolstice revelationsthassa's oracle97 mountains>my oc pls don't steal
>Izzet>the purest form of edh
>>97521808That deck immediately failed the requirements because it does not have protection. I dont care about that card. Any deck is fine. But you need to:>document what turn you went off>a description of what cards were involved>how many mulligans you took>what the hand you kept looked like
>>97521821>>97521808And the protection you used. I forgot.
>>97521821>That deck immediately failed the requirements because it does not have protection>mulliganshahaanyways what do i care about protection? all i care about is i win more games than my opponents and these kinds of decks will make that happen, who cares if they happen to win 1 or 2 when i win 5 in exchange?btw it's your parents that should've had protection LOL
>>97521534Pic related and all the expensive free counterspell variants
>listen to the Muscles and Magic guy>he says fuck your curve, get your total mana value down to 120-140 range>all my decks are in the 200-240 range>mfw
>>97521534abolish the RL
>>97521827Because by t5 three players have seen 19% of all cards assuming 2 mulligans on average, any distuption stops you, and on average 9% of each deck is removal or interaction, and there is a 99.8% chance someone will have something to stop you, assuming no additional cards in deck and no additional draws.Dont be flippant.
>>97521860>some random "influencer" hands out bad advice like candyI saw one of those fat balding beard and backwards baseball cap Magic influencers getting on the "mana rocks are bad actually" train, and his argument was the EXACT SAME as 3/3 Elk (pic related) which basically comes down to>if you play a 2 mana commander you should play it on curve instead of ramping!!!!!Literally the most retarded take of all time
>>97521881>on average 9% of each deck is removal or interactionthat's just you saying "i always have it" in different waysespecially when 9% is nothing compared to 100%, which is what my command zone combo isalso i can just make it faster for even more "protection"sanar, innovative first-yearsolstice revelationsthassa's oracleancient tombgemstone cavernssvyelunite templedwarven ruinscrystal veinsaprazzan skerrysanstone needle90 mountains7 nonspell acceleration which is more than the removal package the average edh casual deck brings kek
>>97521901It's not "they will always have it" as a meme. It is 99.8% of the time they will, statistically. And you just dramatically reduced the consistency of the deck in terms of mulligans over a 100 game test sample.Anyways, I have no interest in bickering with someone who does not understand the concept. Either make the excel or dont, and if you dont no further discussion is warranted. You know what you need to document. You dont even have to play that stupid commander; it's irrelevant. Any commander is fine. When you run the test the results will surprise you.
>>97521891>obnoxious furfag posting his fetish art againIt's all so tiresome
>>97521916>It is 99.8% of the time they will,if that were the case nobody would care about kinnan being b2 legal again but i bet you cried about it too like a fag>you dont even have to play that stupid commanderyou are so mad haha
>>97521919He visited us, bud.Denied commissioning that art but refused to deny being into it.
You wouldn't a kithkin hag, would you?
>>97521924Not mad whatsoever. Why would I be mad a shitposting dork doesnt play magic? You do not know what you're talking about, you do not have the ability to know what you're talking about, and no further discussion is required until you build any deck and make the excel sheet so we can see the results.
>>97521901A 90+ land one trick pony deck is not a new concept or a good one. You're gonna build the deck, play it once, then everyone will know what it does and will have removal for it every single time. The only upside is that it will be cheap to put together
>>97521961>A 90+ land one trick pony deck is not a new concept or a good one. You're gonna build the deck, play it once, then everyone will know what it does and will have removal for it every single time. The only upside is that it will be cheap to put togetherfinally, a smart anon unlike this moron >>97521952you are correct that people will just have removal for it every single time, but that's because those are your friends that will grab their interaction heavy decks once they find out that you're basically trolling themthis isn't the case at an LGS bracket friday night where you can only use 1 deck and if it weren't for gavin's rules i can easily spike a weeinie hut jr pod and troll them
>>97521986>You're smart for saying exactly what the other anon is saying.Yes. He's also saying the bar to build a deck that wins by t6 every game is much higher than you think.
>>97522003>he's mad that another anon was actually smart enough to recognize that it's actually cheap and easy to build a combo deck>he's also mad that he didn't have the foresight to see that the combo limit isn't for your basement, but for the LGShahaha seethe more this is why you're too dumb to make hot takes
Anyone ever print a pic for an alter? Any advice? Got a fake Teferi's Protection and wanted to alter it to a pic of an FF Barrier spell.
>>97522014That deck doesnt always win by t6 even in magical christmasland. It will brick sometimes without interaction in a large sample, which means it wont win t6 every single time. Even the best cedh deck will brick. It is not easy to build something that passes the bar, and you still havent done so. I think the mistake he made was explaining stats to you.
>>97522057>he thinks pantlaza will brick if opponents don't have removalkekw imagine doubling down this bad because you got btfo'd
>>97522072Is that the deck you spent all thread talking about?
>>97522089>he thinks sanar will brick if opponents don't have removalyou didn't read the card because you're illiterate
>>97521891Mana rocks ARE bad. Im glad ive seen a few people in this thread admit their decks perform much better after taking my advice and reducing or removing them entirely.
>>97522103Yes. If you draw your key cards. Any of them. Same with pantlaza, but at a lower frequency because you have to draw two of them.
>>97522103>>97522109 now kiss
>>97522105Mana rocks are bad if you have better shit to be playing turn 1-3
>>97522105>my adviceGlad to have you back, diaper shitter.Mana rocks are great because even if you don't need the acceleration, it still gives you more mana to play with per game. More mana means more spells and that is never a bad thing.T1 land, sol ring, arcane signet is the absolute strongest play in casual pods. Imagine having 5 fucking mana to work with turn 2, it's insane. Anyone advising against that has no idea what they're talking about
>>97522114i hate how coop is so mogged by a card with less heartwarming art.
>>97522109>Yes. If you draw your key cards. Any of them.incorrect as you can just tweak your mana base to be able to cast UU and 2U turn 5 if you happen to draw either them>you drew thoracle? just play sanar turn 4 then turn 5 cast solstice, then cast thoracle manually for UU>you drew solstice? just play sanar turn 4 then turn 5 cast thoracle, then with trigger on stack cast solstice for 2R>you drew both? just cast both of them turn 5, no sanar needed
>>97522157Personally, this is the worst one. Helm is so cool. I love the old oil paint style.>>97522165You're almost starting to get it. Keep thinking.
>>97522184>get btfo>uh... keep thinking!
I play unserious cards exclusively in Bracket 4.
>>97522136>More mana means more spells and that is never a bad thing.NTA, more mana rocks only means more spells if you have enough draw, as mana rocks take up a card slot.
>>97522195You have 90 mountains and colourless sources. Work through it, start changing the ratios, start test drawing and improving consistency, do the anon's dumb excel sheet to math it out. You might almost have built a deck.
>>97522105Incredibly wrong. Rocks are good literally all the way to the top levels of the format.
>>97522224>he knows in his autistic heart it can be done>...well you didn't post a list with fetches and duals and all that shit so it doesn't count!!!absolutely mindbroken
>>97522136You dont need lots of mana. You need the right ratio of draw to mana. All rocks and no spells to play is bad. But yes, that anon is also an idiot.
>mana rocks le badMy highest win rate deck is stuffed with them.
>>97522242Doing a bad job is no reason to be smug. If you did a good job you could have looked like a cool guy much earlier.
>>97522249>11>stuffed10 is the baseline number of ramp pieces you should be running in a deck. Stuffed is approaching 20-25.
>a magic player won the gold medal
>>97522254>if you went through the effort of posting a legitimate list i wouldn't have looked like an idiot!my only mea culpa is that i can't cure autism, but c'est la vie
>>97522264Yes, if you put in effort you wouldnt look like an idiot repeatedly making silly statements and repeating "u mad". And you would have done something magic related while learning something. Neat right?
>>97522263>he vagueposts for (You)s instead of just saying what he wants to say
>>97522283>it's all your fault!!all i care about is you (finally) know i'm right and if you feel i didn't provide proof earlier then tough luck i guess, picrel
>>97522297I said exactly what I wanted to say
>>97522307Is this short for "I dont know how excel works"?
>>97521938Remember anon, if you fuck a kithkin then thanks to the thoughtweft, all the nearby kithkins will feel it
>>97522321no i'm not going to spoonfeed you on the correct frank karsten approved ratios, keep seething though lol
>>97522329I saw Pluribus it sucked btw
>>97522331Mhmm.
>>97522263>>97522297Interesting. Seems like this might be her commander, in an interview she says she named her dog after Ukkima
>>97522127Yeah. Now think about what you just said honestly lmao>mana rocks are good if I build bad decks that dont do anything early game.>>97522136All this has been argued to death :) ive convinced a few people and im happy with that!>>97522232They are very good in cedh yes. Thats about it. Nowhere else does it make sense.
There are good mana rocks and bad mana rocks. There are decks where mana rocks fit, or don’t fit.To say all mana rocks are bad seems silly. To say Commander’s Sphere is bad? Fair.
>>97522405>ive convinced a few people and im happy with that!Convince people not to tease you for wetting your diapee
If they care about the health of commander, they will ban fetchlands tomorrow
>>97522405>They are very good in cedh yes. Thats about it. Nowhere else does it make sense.Mana rocks do not inexplicably become bad outside of cedh.
>>97522389Pretty based tbqh
>>97522389ukkimachads (not the food chain cucks) we're eating good
So I was playing golgari elves against my buddy's krenko deck and he hit me with Voracious dragon and sac'd 20 goblin tokens and killed me instantly.How do I navigate around something like that for next time around as far as the dragon goes? The tokens I have ways of dealing with and that's on me but it deals x2 the amount of tokens sac'd on entering, fog effects only affect combat damage so what should I do?
Tomorrow’s unbanning:Tolarian AcademyMana CryptEmrakulDocksideGolosHullbreacher
>>97522405They're honestly better outside of CEDH because they have more value later in the game. Early game plays are more common in CEDH
>>97522461Is it tomorrow?
>>97522461I recently bought every lurrus I could get my hands on, my stonks are about to skyrocket
>>97522463Such a disgustingly retarded opinion all I can do is laugh.
>>97522475I mean seriously, what are you gonna play 1-3 in casual? Some dogshit chump blocker and maybe an enchantment?
>>97522461>Biorhythm>Dockside Extortionist>Emrakul, the Aeons Torn>Golos, Tireless Pilgrim>Griselbrand>Jeweled Lotus>Mana Crypt>Primeval Titan>Prophet of Kruphix>Sundering Titan>Sylvan Primordialthese are the *only* candidates that will ever come off that banlist, with griselbrand being the absolute limit gavin could possibly stomach, and that's only because it's not a blue card and cedh doesn't need more busted blue cards
>>97522488Crypt and Lotus will never come off and anyone who believes otherwise is coping hard.
I do not want to play against primeveal, though I think that it will be quickly banned again if they do unban it.
is it too late to buy
>>97522498you're the one coping hard, b2 babywhich is funny because all these cards will become GCs and therefore will not hurt you, assuming you don't have any flights of fancy that isalso ask any cedh player and they vastly prefer the old meta compared to the current midrange rhystic study centered one
>>97522509I don't use brackets. I just don't think WOTC wants the massive backlash of unbanning the things that caused mass death threats and the destruction of the old-format.>hurr they don't careIf they didn't care about backlash then we'd be getting a Harry Potter set
>>97522521wotc had warned the RC not to ban dockside and co.the RC didn't listenwotc will have their reprint equity, gotta have chase cards to sell collector's boosters>i dont use bracketsthen why do you care so much about something that doesnt involve you? that's like an edh only player caring about draft and standard, unless you secretly are in denial of something that is
>>97522452Just don’t let him get that many tokens V.A.T.S.Noxious FieldPlague SpitterLast LaughPestilence Thrashing Wompus
>>97522461Emrakul is the only card I feel certain calling as escaping the ban list tomorrow. The game has come a long way from the days where everybody randomly jammed it in their battlecruiser deck and people used bribery as a tech card against it since at least one person always had it.
>>97522537>bribery is a collectors cardhuh, what a coincidencebtw don't forget the other fancy card
>>97522461>docksidebased. My JAWS deck is now ridiculous.
Make spiders
>>97522533Because draft dictates what's printed and how retarded things are going to be? Dont be stupid.
>>97522591>draft dictates what's printedi don't recall collector's sets and commander precons to be draftable
>>97522506no because you can just buy it tomorrow when it's not unbanned
>>97522606Draft is the only design purpose of collectors sets. Precons are designed with the standard card pool in mind for upgrades.
>>97522614>doubling downso can we talk about draft and standard here in /edhg/ then? it wouldn't be off-topic right? because after all everything in mtg is reducible to draft
>>97522622Better than shitposting. You sure can talk about how you're using your draft and standard cards.
Post cards you drafted that should be banned. I'll start.
I have finished a cringe.Full proxy deck of my cringe OC, poorly cut for extra cringe and ran out of ink to print more and fix.
>>97522645You don't play this
>>97522645lethal levels of secondhand embarrassment
>>97522644If Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact were banned instead, would you be okay with Thoracle.
>>97522645Surely you thought about this with your brain.
>>97522648Technically true, since I just finished today, but I will.
>>97522667Top 3 dark ritual for sure.
>>97522645I don't know why you would do this, but shine on you crazy diamond I guess.
>>97522667Best one that isn't some unique special printing shit
>>97522645Looks horrific. I cannot tell what any of these cards are at a glance even though I know all of them.
Jeweled Lotus unbanned with errata>Commander Companion - Your commander creature's converted mana cost is equal to 7 or more (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for [3] as a sorcery.)
>>97522645ill give you props for having a redhead for an OC, since they're always the best, but, goddamn. Next time just use her as the commander, and any version of that creature that have multiple variants (like Aurelia's various versions). People wont think youre as much of a retard that way
>>97522724If I'm going to be a retard, no point in half-assing it.
>>97522737God speed
>>97522737Fair enough. I can respect staying true to your tism.Do you have the list in an actual site to look over? I've been trying to make a commander from each of the Blocks that I loved, and Innistrad has too many to choose from.
>>97522752https://archidekt.com/decks/11498768/boros_pillowsYep, at 32 lands with this commander? Full retard. Its honestly been fine while goldfishing though
>>97522645Your posts usually suck but this is a new low, how the fuck is anybody suppose to know what your board is when its 10+ copies of the same bitch with her tits out?
>>97522785How is anyone supposed to know what my board is when all of my cards are secret lairs/alt frames with weird ass text and framing?
>>97522785What do you do whenever you cant tell what a card is from across the board regardless of what's on it?Do whatever that is.
>>97522811I don't like that ether anon
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>>97522825Sucks to suck. I play this.
>>97521916You are a faggot who doesn't understand probability.For being such an anal retentive douchebag when demanding that the person you disagree with dots all their 'i's and crosses all their 't's you seem to be pretty comfortable in assuming that having a piece of removal also means that your mana base is such that you can cast the removal AND that the removal actually hits a 2/4 with 4cmc and isn't a disenchant or an abrupt decay or a cast down or a Flusterstorm.Why don't YOU run a fucking excel sheet showing your goldfishes and how often a random sampling of 10 'average' decks in EDH would be able to answer a turn 4, unprotected Sanar.Don't even bother responding until you have the spreadsheet with minimum of 25 games each of 10 decks.
>>97522645I wrote a fantasy book (you may have seen 4chan ads for it) and considered making a proxy of the cover art I commissioned for it over Scarab God.I don’t mind proxies that look nice. My brother designed this for his Witch King deck.
>>97522872>and considered making a proxy of the cover art I commissioned for it over Scarab God.You should. Most people will enjoy the backstory to it as well.
I decided to take the Ruric Thar deck into a full on meme direction.I'm going to "proxy" the entire deck, with just crayon drawings. Not even markers, or sleeved up. Just a bunch of index cards, with green, red, and black crayon drawings of everything.I'll still have the actual deck with me, but I'm sure this will get a few good laughs outta some tables
>>97522854Dang. Completely off the rails there anon. ~97% chance each game across 3 players after mulligans. In any given hand each player has around 64% chance of having both two lands and one piece of removal by turn 4 before mulligans, assuming monocolour, no additional card draw, and 10 pieces of removal averaging 2mv and 34 lands per deck. 95% chance one player has the answer before mulligans by turn 4. I did simplify the variables a bit, but it was fun doing the math.
>>97522645Good for you anon
Having never built an Elf Ball deck I figured Morcant would be a little more interesting than she turned out.
>>97522907Post it when you're done. My only issue playing against it is how well will index cards shuffle
If someone sat down at your table and busted out a World's Smallest MtG deck would you play with them?
So with this guy I can just instantly win the game if I draw Worldfire off the top and have an instant or ability that can deal 1 damage to each opponent right?
>>97523056If its a legal commander deck I don't care.
>>97522945She would be much more interesting if there were fewer 2 card combos. Controlling the board by dumping out elves isn't wildly unique, but it's better than "I play an elf and it 1-sided board wipes, I now do this every upkeep" Much like Vivi it's a powerful effect that would be more fairly put into the 99 of another deck rather than the permanent access of the command zone.
>>97523070>Play worldfire >Oh right, hand is gone, and if I play an instant it would go off before worldfire
>>97523078oh yeah, you're rightI'm dumb
So with this guy I can just instantly win the game if I draw Exquiste Blood off the top and have a creature that can deal 1 damage to an opponent right?
>>97523083Yup. Pretty neat, right?
>>97523083>i can instantly win the game if a bunch of things that aren't immediate happen in succession, right?i mean yeah i guess. you could not have a way to deal 1 damage to an opponent, or an opponent could kill either vito or the enchantment with the triggers on the stack
So with this guy I can just instantly win the gameright?
>>97523099Nope. You need more than just that guy.
>buy Jaws on a whim when it came out simply because I was off work that day>find out today it's now $125Neat
>>97523070Plot something else before that
So with this guy I can just instantly win the game if I draw Demonic Consultation off the top and have a way to draw a card right?
I finally got a copy whose my commander
>>97523056Sounds based if it is an actual legal commander deck
>>97523136Let's try that again: I finally got a copy who is my commander?
>>97523109Jaws is fun
>>97523131>and have a way to draw a card right?Like his +1
>>97523139Golgari?
>>97523151jaheira?
New banlist where?
>>97523139Zellix. Dimir Mill+Combo.It's a 1-time 1 mana protection for Zellix, buffs his tokens if you want to swing as well.Make sure to run Altar of the Brood as well, you have the chance to instantly mill out the entire table if the stars align
>>97523163Commanders with tap abilities of their own are interesting. I noticed that volo also has a fun synergy with haunted one.
>>97523165But unfortunately Shadowheart and Sivriss are nombos despite seemingly on brand for the ability
>instagram recommends me some deck builder account>”did you know? this underused commander goes CRAZY if you have out opposition agent, gaea’s cradle, a sac outlet, and eight mana!”
>>97523139Shadowheart so you can play mono black human elf cleric tribal while drawing bajillion of cards?
>>97523176Why did you have insta in the the first place?
>>97523168Shadowheart should work fine. She taps, and as long as whatever you're saccing is a Human, Elf, or Cleric, you get it back.>>97523165yeah, there's a lot of fun things you can do. I just lean towards the Zellix gameplan since Dimir Mill solves one of the big issues (you're feeding the opponent's grave) by running the grave hate cards. He doesn't care if the card never makes it to grave, he just wants to see it flipped towards it.>https://archidekt.com/decks/7031599/mill_test
>>97523177MIGHT be good but note that when you sacrifice a creature to shadowheart it does not gain undying
>>97523190>She taps, and as long as whatever you're saccing is a Human, Elf, or Cleric, you get it back.Unfortunately not. The ability triggers after the creature is sacrificed.
>>97523184I have an account where I post bionicle mocs.
>>97523200Oh hells yeah. Did we just become friends?
>>97523202Erm, maybe?
>>97522667>>97522681>>97522697I prefer this one but that is definitely good.
>>97523137>>97523072It's probably going to be my only bracket 1 deck, but I can cobble something together from the set
>>97523218I was pretty happy that vol 5 of Destroy All Humans. They Can’t Be Regenerated came with a foil version of this one.
>>97523231Yeah I grabbed one of those when it was only a 2-3 bucks on ebay before a lot of people in the west were really paying attention to the manga, feels good man.
mangabros..
If I spend 4 treeasure on rolling and then copy the activated ability with something like peter parkers camera, will the copied ability also roll the additional dice?
>>97523290conditions like that would be like a 'mode' or a choice and are copied when you copy the ability (or spell)
>>97523297so yes? 10 rolls, 10 robots, 10 chances at treasuires?
Do people hate it when you flip coins?
>>97522916>every deck on average has 10 doom bladesAutistic people make me laugh
>>97523306>faggot purposefully wastes even more time in the timewasting faggot circlejerk formatyes
>>97523306yes
I wish there was a legally distinct Leatherface in Magic.
>>97523365I wish Leatherface was in Magic
>>97523368that would be cool too
>>97523365You got like half a dozen close enough references to your favorite trash IP nobody cares about UB fisherman.
>>97523372>references only good if it is scrimblo brimblo I like
>building each monocolor to just use up bulk>every color is super obvious on what you should do>White Voltron or Lifegain>Black is just K'rrik Devotion>Green is either lands or stompy>Blue is spells or mill>Red has like 50 different things you can do, all of them shittier than if you had 2+ colorsSomeone help. I've built 6 different Red decks, and I just can't stop. They're all just different flavors of "go fast", but fuck is it great to have Zada survive a rotation at a table
>>97523365why? if you want something just make your own
>>97523385why is this general infested with cringlords
>>97523393I don't know, why are you here?
>>97523375Wrong, it's all bad. But your desperate fishing for other fans of mid movies on the mtg sub of a vietnamese macaroni art forum is gay.
>>97523402>texas chainsaw>midI know this isn't /tv/ but I'd be remiss if I didn't point out such appallingly shit taste
>>97523393This is what happens when you don't bully nerds out of your hobby
>>97523423Screaming slurs and having a tantrum constantly about UB isn't effective bullying.
>>97523308Not just doomblades. How many do people run? I can do whatever math you want.
>>97523418Horror is the absolute bottom of the barrel filmmaking with slashers being the muck stained below the waste. Come of terms with it.
>>97523453I dont think you know anything about that movie nor anything about film in general. Modern horror? Sure. Low budget 70's horror? Different story. Watch the OG. Look at the cinematography. But this isnt the thread for that.
I play raffine aggro and despite the fact that it can kill people, it feels less like something the deck is designed to do and rather more like something the deck lucks intoa lot of the time, I just eat shit to a board wipe and then can never rebuild the tempo back even if my hand is full from the draws because the deck relies so much on attacking while raffine is outI have breena in the deck and it's a pretty powerful card there and have been thinking about swapping commanders for itit feels objectively less powerful from the loss of blue alone but it can also just become more consistent since it's possible to trigger it more than once per cyclethoughts?
>>97523378Green has some pseudo-storm shenanigans going on
>>97523474[laughs in foodchain]
>>97523480>>97523474Whoops. Aeve or whatever was a real card for a while too.
>>97523474does it really? only spells payoff ive seen is Aeve, Thrasta, the 2 creature spawners, and that one meme lifegain card.I had originally tried to build my mono-G as Slimes Against Humanity, but there wasn't a commander that synergized well, and the spell payoffs werent there
>>97523491weather the stormexplosive vegetationchatterstormaavehunting pack exists but is bad>>97523480 of courseand also greenbelt rampager to actually enable your storm count
>>97523500oops, sprouting vines, not explosive vegetation.
Finishing up the lists for my decks that use Breach lines, is Lotus Petal really the only viable alternative for LED? Diamond Lion wont work because its a creature, and is 2 mana, and the Lotus Bloom can't be recast because it's a Suspend card.>>97523500doesn't Rampager only get you +2 to the count, at 1 G each, since you HAVE to pay the EE if you have it?
>>97523365Isn't that what Unstoppable Slasher supposed to be referencing (among other things)
>>97523506Just haste the Diamond Lion
>>97523385Sir your card doesnt say its legendary that is an illegitimate proxy
>>97523553Scholar of the Ages isn't a legendary creature.
>>97523570>>97523570>>97523570
>>97523520He's more of a reference to Jason
>>97523378An uncreative person needs help, everyone is surprised.
