[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/tg/ - Traditional Games

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.
  • Roll dice with "dice+numberdfaces" in the options field (without quotes).

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: GiDQyuHaIAEt8xj.jpg (1.52 MB, 2843x4096)
1.52 MB
1.52 MB JPG
It's been done for ages, got stale, got thrown away, then came back like a red dragon bodyslamming you. What makes this archetype so enduring?
>>
>proxy pol thread
Stop ruining it for everyone. I'm playing a human fighter right now in the campaign I'm in, and its embarassing because of faggots like you who want to give it the same kind of symbolism you give truck nuts.
>>
>>97521350
There is a reason vanilla is the most popular ice cream flavor, because its effective while being very effective.
Human Fighter is very simple for beginners to pick up and they kick fucking ass.
>>
>>97521369
NTO, but wouldn't non-terminally online people not know this? You'll be fine.
>>
File: conan belit1.jpg (811 KB, 774x1031)
811 KB
811 KB JPG
>>97521350
Because people got wise to the fact that being some freakshit doesn't make you interesting by default and have grown tired of being told you have to be something weird just because it's an option.
>>
>>97521350
Human Fighter (at least within D&D) is *the* beginner character. It is the absolute simplest character to pilot while offering plenty of width for personalization.
>>
>>97521604
Retard nogames who cry about freakshit seem to not understand that playing the most common race class combo does not make your character interesting by default either.
>>
>>97521656
I didn't say it did. But if you can't play an interesting human you're not going to be interesting as a purple tiefling orc combo. Try to think at least a little bit.
>>
>>97521383
I am fine, right now. But OP needs to stop being such a faggot, or at least try being a faggot about something else.
>>
>>97521677
if you can't play an interesting human you're not going to be interesting anything so it is not the race and class that is the issue here.
>>
>>97521712
Ding ding ding. We have achieved reading comprehension. You retards get dumber every year.
>>
>>97521350
Literally everybody's first character is a human fighter because it's the easiest to learn the game with and it has the most surface appeal. Most people at this stage don't really have a character idea driving them so much as they just want to play D&D for the first time.
>>
File: HFO1.jpg (283 KB, 650x924)
283 KB
283 KB JPG
>>
File: HFO2.jpg (352 KB, 650x924)
352 KB
352 KB JPG
>>97521846
>>
File: HFO3.jpg (301 KB, 650x924)
301 KB
301 KB JPG
>>97521852
>>
File: 1245708181418.jpg (25 KB, 336x368)
25 KB
25 KB JPG
>>97521828
Admittedly, my first ever tabletop character was a D&D 3.5e human monk, but I can at least chalk that up to my enduring love of the martial arts.
>>
File: HFO4.jpg (352 KB, 650x924)
352 KB
352 KB JPG
>>97521859
>>
File: HFO5.jpg (345 KB, 650x924)
345 KB
345 KB JPG
>>97521865
>>
File: HFO6.jpg (356 KB, 650x924)
356 KB
356 KB JPG
>>97521868
>>
File: HFO7.jpg (310 KB, 650x924)
310 KB
310 KB JPG
>>97521880
>>
File: HFO8.jpg (358 KB, 650x924)
358 KB
358 KB JPG
>>97521885
>>
File: 1219659604351.jpg (303 KB, 600x920)
303 KB
303 KB JPG
>>97521611
It's not just a low skill floor mechanically. A (human) fighter is also very easy to control on a narrative level as well. The absolute minimum requirement before going on an adventure is to just pick up a weapon. How you jazz up everything surrounding that choice is up to you, but it doesn't require much beyond that to just pick up that weapon.
>>
>>97521815
Yes, you faggots who cry about freakshit are too stupid to understand the issue here.
>>
File: Human High King.png (2.74 MB, 1920x1080)
2.74 MB
2.74 MB PNG
>>97521350
>>
>>97521604
Who the fuck was forcing you, or anyone for that matter, to play a dragonborn or tiefling? Do you even realize how retarded you are?
Go invent some other delusional culture war hill to die on, you dont belong here fag
>>
>>97521350
>What makes this archetype so enduring?
Deus vult.
>>
>>97522272
Stop posting orcs, Anon.
>>
>>97522357
Paladins are a different thing.
>>
>>97521350
That guy's from a bara hentai, isn't he? He's got the bara hentai face.
>>
>>97521973
No, I'm pretty sure he understands the issue perfectly fine. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is playing a male human fighter because they think it's an OC donut steel. They do it because it is an arctype that tells the table, "I'm not here to theaterfag, I'm here to play a game." So actually, I don't think YOU get it, at all.
>>
>>97522420
It sounds like the only thing you get is things in your retarded nogames ass.
>>
>>97521350
Because human male fighters get the girl.
>>
File: maxresdefault.jpg (132 KB, 1280x720)
132 KB
132 KB JPG
>>97522454
I play a weekly 5e game, a biweekly Cyberpunk RED game, and am writing material to GM a SotWW game, all at a real table. Do at least one of these before you try raising your tone around me again.
>>
Isn't hitting shit with weapons fun? I don't think it honestly ever left.
>>
>>97522469
That's a mutant male ranger thoughbeit
>>
>>97522494
By fantasy standards compared to rl ones, all humans are superpowered mutants. lol
>>
File: 1508387630314.jpg (172 KB, 720x540)
172 KB
172 KB JPG
>>97522342
>Who the fuck is forcing you?
Nobody. Its a tired twitter argument between groups of people with permanent victim complexes.
>>
File: ElfDragonOrBeastfolk.jpg (1.69 MB, 3000x3000)
1.69 MB
1.69 MB JPG
Hard choice for some of you fighters.
>>
>>97522484
You say yet you post like the only thing you play with is penises.
>>
>>97522529
>groups of people
Where is the second group? Its one group shadowboxing their own imaginations
>>
>>97521604
I'm always reminded of how people like this don't actually play the game.

People don't move away from Fighters because of 'freakshit'. They move away from Fighters because they have very few actual moves. There's no tactical options. You kinda get a few tactical decisions with the battlemaster but only a small handful. Even the Eldritch Knight at least gets a few spells to spice things up.
>>
>>97522624
2024 Champion Fighter is fucking dope. Having Advantage on Athletics is literally all you need to solve 90% of problems the game throws at you.
>>
>>97522570
Elf wife, best wife
>>
>>97521350
Because it's easiest to write what you know, and out of all fantasy archetypes Human Male Fighter has the greatest proximity to the writer/roleplayer. We aren't nigh-immortal elves and we can't cast spells, but we know what it feels like to hit things with sticks.
>>
>>97521611
It's not simpler than any other pure martial class, and it's simplicity varies wildly depending on subclass
>>
>>97522683
But we do want to fuck the nigh-immortal elves who cast spells, though.
>>
>>97521828
My first character was a gnome ranger
>>
File: 1661624830514880.jpg (326 KB, 2480x3508)
326 KB
326 KB JPG
>>97522734
Other D&D martials have a more pronounced gimmick to them compared to the fighter.
>Barbarians have rage
>Rogues fight asymmetrically as much as possible
>Monks have nonstandard equipment requirements
>>
>>97522768
Were you a single child, perhaps?
>>
>>97521350
I think it's kinda nice to embrace the more fantastical aspects of fantasy, and have sexy human lady fighters, supplementing their weapon styles with explosive martial arts and performance enhancing powers; bonus points if she's actually altruistic and humble.
More refined than "my horsecock devil points his finger and levels a city while laughing", but unreal enough to take advantage of the fantasy genre's freedoms.
>>
>>97522807
No. /tg/ is in charge of your table and we command you to ban freakshit like women and wizards.
>>
>>97522821
/tg/ thinks you are a stupid faggot.
>>
>>97522624
>You kinda get a few tactical decisions with the battlemaster but only a small handful.
I've seen the argument made that battlemaster features should be made baseline for all fighters.
>>
File: Parn and Deedlit.png (1.48 MB, 1040x1494)
1.48 MB
1.48 MB PNG
>>97522570
Respect to the others, but elf is the all-time classic.
>>
File: 457226.png (1.41 MB, 800x1040)
1.41 MB
1.41 MB PNG
>>97522910
There are games that already do this, but for all martials.
>>
>>97521350
>What makes this archetype so enduring?
Lazyness
The whole thing is build on people not giving a single flying fuck and being too lazy, so it's the standard "um... it's a guy... with a sword!". Alternatively "he's just a merc".
This isn't some sort of statement, owing snowflakes or any other shit. It's the default option that requiores zero effort, zero thinking, zero planning and can be run while still doomscrolling your phone. Been like this since forever.
This naturally leads to the next logical step: playing blatant self-insert, that acts, thinks and behaves exactly like the player running such character (which is - being half-absent and generally ignorant) and that's when the player isn't busy doomscrolling. If not prompted that this is their combat round, they will just continue to passively sit by the table, not contributing to the only thing their character is (technically) good at.
But then never-games decided that yep, this is some sort of political statement, because they never fucking played anything, so here we are, with the endless spam going for 8 years and counting
>>
>>97521350
>Anothereidos of Dragon Vein R
That's art from a gay bara game, of course it is, straight artist wouldn't draw a muscleman with such soft facial features and the silhouette would be rough and more angular.
>>
>>97521828
My first ever character was a human journalist in a cyberpunk game.
My first fantasy character was an elf thaumaturge.
>>
>>97521828
>Literally everybody's first character is a human fighter
>Source: trust me, bro
Actual aggregated data shows that being less than third of all choices (and that's just DnD), with the steady increasing prominence of elven sorcerer sicne at least mid-00s
>>
>>97521967
>Translation: Just play self-inserts, it's great!
It's unironically more annoying than anime waifu inserts half-vampire half-dragon multiclass with heterochtomia and bullshit backstory of being a fallen royal and chosen one of their people. At least those show that someone put even a modicum of effort into their character, no matter how misguided and malformed the final result was. Human fighter is "I don't give a flying fuck and won't contribute or participate" choice in 9 out 10 cases.
And retards acting like this is some sort of pinnacle of gaming, where you show you actual skills and RP chops either never played a single game in their life, or can't grasp the simple fact they are creating the new kind of snowflake, where lack of any sort of descriptivity beyond "a guy with a sword" is treated like some sort of "WOW!" effect.

It's the same level as being proud that you are came from some specifc place, and then demanding prize for that. Oh wow, you are alive, what a fucking achievement!
>>
File: baki motobe.jpg (291 KB, 640x1029)
291 KB
291 KB JPG
>>97521350
>>
>>97521828
When I started playing, the GM told us to roll the whole character, race included. I didn't land a human until... 3 years into the hobby? 4?
>>
>>97523897
You don't even know what "doomscrolling" is, retard
>>
>>97521350
Because it's cool
>>
>>97522570
>Spice&Wolf
He's a merchant, not a fighter
>>
>>97521350
I blame isekai.
>>
>>97521350
>What makes this archetype so enduring?
Lack of imagination + main character syndrome.
>>
File: 1770621309841212.gif (2.33 MB, 498x276)
2.33 MB
2.33 MB GIF
>>97521350
>OP pic
>>
>>97521369
I call BS. Go back to Bluesky, and whine about ICE.
>>
>>97524336
Nah, Human Fighter has been around forever. Also the idea of the mage/rouge/etc main character isn't new but don't always stick the landing like the human warrior.
>>
>>97521350
>human
What every person consuming the media is, immediately relatable for roleplay. Unironically diverse enough for many kinds of phenotypes and cultures without overlap.
>male
The majority of the people consuming the media, and the sex that the majority of women find attractive, which warrants consideration for player choice. Often associated with leadership and battle capability which are important for a game where you fight things and might have to boss people around to get a quest done.
>fighter
Simple, unimposing, yet highly-customizable archetype. Low skill floor and decently high ceiling unlike the system-mastery-dependent mage or the high-risk/high-reward thief. Due to needing to have physical stats to fight effectively, almost certainly physically impressive if not attractive.
In summary: the only reason you wouldn't want to play one is if you have a more specific idea than a perfectly playable default.
>>
>>97521862
same here, also the GM told me to go for one because I rolled 18,17,16,16,14,10
>>
>>97527880
I'm pretty sure most people here get angry if your human male fighter isn't white.
>>
>>97526120
Maybe part of that, but it's a classic for a reason. You just need a sharp weapon and your will, and you're ready to go.
>>
File: fighter1.png (50 KB, 222x212)
50 KB
50 KB PNG
>>97528527
I can do that with a lance, a halberd or an axe, and just by choosing that I'm way more interesting than %90 than most fighters.
>>
>>97522272
We wuz fighters
>>
>>97528848
*grabs scabbard and shuffles metal boots*
AYO you be sayin'?
>>
File: senapose.png (945 KB, 720x876)
945 KB
945 KB PNG
>>97522821
I hate when people try to play females in My low-fantasy setting
>>
>>97529295
>At least neuter yourself if you're gonna be playing a "female" character at my table, gosh.
>>
>>97529358
You wouldn't play a gnome when you're over 6' irl, would you?
>>
File: ajpt50.jpg (72 KB, 500x577)
72 KB
72 KB JPG
>>97529406
>>
>>97529417
>>
>>97522910
I fucking love battlemaster, bait and switch has saved my squishy party members like 10 times a session
>>
This is more a vidya stance but I don't like playing non human races in them because the game will always give some non human party members and it makes them seem less special if you're one too and with most almost complete certainty the game will be written as if you were a human anyways
>>
>>97524227
The point for more than half of these was to kill people with farmer's tools.
>>
>>97529924
Hey, a weapon is a weapon.
>>
>>97522624
But everyone hated . . . fuck, I can't even remember the book's real title anymore. Everyone that Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic. But everyone fucking hated it, and everyone fucking hated 4e. And guess what those games fucking did? Gave the fighters moves. Tactical options. Removed the spells and class divisions that allowed casters to break the rules, bend the game over, fuck it up the ass, and make the DM humble.
>>
>>97530085
They won't stop you from getting raped by Baki's dad.
>>
File: human male fighter.jpg (151 KB, 736x981)
151 KB
151 KB JPG
>tfw can't remember if I long ago started 'human male fighter' threads or just picked it up without realizing it
>tfw come to /tg/ and find a human male fighter thread
>>
File: 1753338744080.png (1.02 MB, 745x1040)
1.02 MB
1.02 MB PNG
>>97530375
That's not Aragorn though
>>
>>97530191
Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords

And yes, everyone meme'd the shit out of it.
>>
>>97522734
Only if you're playing Hasbroslop.
>>
>>97522592
This. People who use freakshit unironically are the ones riding a bike, putting a stick in their spokes and blaming everyone else for their inevitable accidents.
>>
File: 1287583346987.jpg (305 KB, 1289x1116)
305 KB
305 KB JPG
>>97528731
No one said the fighter HAD to pick a single sword.
>>
>>97530085
The point is that the character lamenting how he's wasted time learning "ancient techniques" is a moron. Those techniques were invented by spies who needed an inconspicuous way to assassinate, if you're a giganigga who kills people in the open, you don't need those techniques and they may be detrimental even.
>>
File: american guts.jpg (332 KB, 1920x1920)
332 KB
332 KB JPG
>>97530375
Specifically WHITE human male fighter
>>
File: 1770452669587750.jpg (462 KB, 1924x1200)
462 KB
462 KB JPG
>>97524227
Wouldn't Motobe be more of a rogue than a fighter?
>>
File: 1341986304409.jpg (57 KB, 419x600)
57 KB
57 KB JPG
>>97531705
?
>>
File: blue knight.jpg (49 KB, 499x755)
49 KB
49 KB JPG
>>97531965
That doesn't count
>>
>>97521350
>got stale
Even when it supposedly "got stale", that didn't stop people from repeatedly posting these threads.
Not that I'm against strapping men being pugilists, I just thought I'd point this out.
>>
>>97532126
You count to potato.
>>
>>97528731
>not a battleaxe
Yikes!
>>
>>97532148
The pugilist class is the single most Mary Sue tier shite ever invented.
>>
speaking of, what's the best system for playing a fighter/martial character? so far, based on my searchings, it's DCC for the mighty deed die. anybody else got any recommendations?
>>
that's why i really like generic fighter in pathfinder 1e compared to generic fighter in dnd 3.5 as pathfinder gets cool martial stuff like weapons training, armor training, armor penalties become less and less hindrance until armor becomes second skin of fighter, on top of increased feat progression that he inherited from 3/3.5 fighter. So fighter in Pathfinder 1e really feels like he's master warrior that operates on level far beyond regular knights or sellswords.
>>
>>97533176
Conan 2d20.
everyone is fucking badass that can cleave enemies head off and loose war cry that scares mooks shitless. and best thing? everyone, EVERYONE is fucking badass warrior in that world. want to play assassin or rogue? well, he's also badass at fighting. want to play sorcerer? sorcery is dangerous and corrupts your mind and body, you need to be tough. and as spells are slow and ritualistic, you must be great warrior too. Want to play as noble? well, a lot of nobles are trained knights, ergo, good at fighting.
>>
>>97533476
cool, not familiar with that one but i am playing the fallout version of that. playing as a dude with a custom shishkebab(flaming katana). it's pretty fun just cutting through mobs like scythe to wheat. counting dmg is kinda awkward/slows down the game since you have to roll multiple dice and divine from them the damage you dealt. i like the action point system. im blanking on some fun shenanigans i did in game but i once was able to shove 5 people and a cyberdog inside a restroom stall to hide in.
>>
>>97533456
Then they shat the bed in 2e. lol
>>
Having a mundane baseline makes the fantastical elements feel more special.
>>
>>97522414
Is that why I'm attracted to him?
>>
>>97534181
Not universally, no.
That logic only works when magic is rare, inconvenient, dangerous for the user, or has wider reaching consequences.
In something like D&D, or something imitating D&D, where pretty much everything is magical, there's no reason why anything mundane would exist.
If mundane things exist in such a prominently magical world, there needs to be more effective recognition of, defenses against, counters to, and equalizers for magic, and D&D doesn't deliver on these things. You have to count on your DM agreeing with you for these things. These things are not class features.
>>
File: images (3).jpg (38 KB, 448x446)
38 KB
38 KB JPG
Human male fighters and their female anthro support class wives
>>
File: 1726352442683234.jpg (34 KB, 360x507)
34 KB
34 KB JPG
>>97534508
All human male fighters should be attractive. If you purposely made your PC not attractive, then you're lame.
>>
>>97521369
fpbp desu
>>
>>97530085
>You call throwing dynamite a martial arts?
>>
>>97522414
>>97527581
I see we are all plagued with the burden of forbidden lore.
>>
>>97534944
Meh, even a fighter that looks like he got his face smashed in with a brick should eventually be able to cultivate attraction by virtue of being strong and successful. Handsome fighters, ugly fighters, fighters who look so nondescript it's practically an ability unto itself.
>>
How do human male fighterfags feel about human male paladins?
>>
>>97536161
There are things in this world that cannot be expressed in words. One of those things is the raw animal lust human male fighters have for half-orc male paladins.
>>
>>97521350
He's so sexy but why are his arms so short?
>>
>>97530191
>that allowed casters to break the rules, bend the game over, fuck it up the ass
Being able to interact with stuff twice per day is not breaking the rules or bending the game over or what the fuck ever.
>and make the DM humble.
Oh. You're one of THOSE... Well, ok, for the umpteenth time, you are the problem at your table, anon. It's a cooperative storytelling experience. You are not opposed to the GM. The GM is not opposed to you. You are not trying to win. There is nothing to win. You are the problem. You are the common element in all your interactions.
>>97530841
Speaking of breaking the game... The problem wasn't that fighter got to do stuff. It's that the stuff they could do broke the action economy which was the sole factor balancing the player characters. Do literally anything OTHER than break the action economy, and it'd be fine.
>>
>>97531965
Technically she's a paladin. But I agree with your point.
>>
>>97535687
I think it's worth making a distinction between sex appeal and beauty. Fighter, as a gender, is already sexy because it's masculine.
>>
>>97536168
Who's the top? Are they both vers?
>>
Aragorn

>heavy armor
>two-handed sword
>neither parents are elves
>uses 'Ranger' as a job title like Smith etc
>decades later when "classes" became a thing "ranger" was a fighter subclass

Human.
Male.
Fighter.
>>
>>97524222
Can't help it. People seem to react better when I'm playing a Human (or Dwarf) Male Fighter. Specifically GMs.

I can only guess why they don't like my Aasimar Sorcerer or Female Human Hexblade.
>>
>>97536415
100% correct, but woods-autists and nonplayers will be upset about this.
>>
>>97533137
The concept of axe+ is covered by axe.
>>
>>97536415
Explain the healing hands and the fact he lives way longer than the average normal human.
>>
>>97536254
Not that anon, but he was making an Iron Shiek joke.
>I PUT YOU IN THE CAMEL CLUTCH, I BREAK YOU BACK, MAKE YOU HUMBLE
>>
>>97536415
He's a ranger, fighterfag.
>>
>>97521350
Human fighters have a grounding effect that makes the rest of the setting more fantastic. It's a good starting point for new players and a thing to fall back upon when you want something with humbler beginnings. I personally prefer it when the fighter becomes just as fantastical as the rest of the setting as well, incorporating exotic fighting styles and magic items into their arsenal as they meet new people and battle strange monsters.
>>
>>97536864
>healing hands
Flavor or some minor feat

>the fact he lives way longer than the average normal human
eating right and staying fit. Maybe a slight amount from distant relatives, but he's just a human.
>noooo he's a half-elf
which one of his parents is an elf, go ahead I'll wait

>>97538151
heavy armor, two-handed sword, no real spells, no pet.

Human. Male. Fighter.
>>
>get disgusted looks when I introduce my human male fighter at the table
why does it have to be like this?
>>
>>97536161
I'm uneducated about earlier editions but wasn't Paladins explicitly HMF back in the day? Like to be one you had to be human, fighter and with stellar base stats?
>>
>>97539283
Well, anon, we were playing Thirsty Sword Lesbians, I'm not even sure how you managed to fucked that up.
>>
>>97539559
In AD&D 1e, yes. They were technically a subclass of Fighter, had to be human, and had strict stat requirements, including a whopping 17 CHA. In BECMI, they were a possible advancement option for Lawful Fighters who achieved name level - but there were three races who could actually be Fighters (human, lupin, and rakasta), rather than just racial classes.
>>
>>97539283
I think you mean "disgusted, but going to write highly erotic rape fanfic of your fighter raping non-humans and impregnating them".
>>
>>97521369
There are two types of people who play HMFS&B and talk about it online.

>People who think that by playing a character with as few bells and whistles as possible, they're playing a better quality of character, and it makes them a better player.
And
>People who think that by choosing to play a based simple straightforward human with no colours or frills and 'recognise their trve svperioritv', they're a superior, more masculine chad based kind of male.

Both are performative males. And both are stupid.

The former doesn't grasp that playing a simple character is a show of player skill because they have to make them enjoyable without relying on established racial or class traits. They're not smart enough to get why, or skilled enough to do so.
They just know "less stuff means better", and will strip out any personality, any motivation, any identity past that of a select number of npc tropes, because they're not actually skilled players.
It will always be a fighter, because that's the accepted thing. It will always be a simpleminded town guard or mercenary out for coin, because those are established as acceptable. They will never ever play a non-magic ranger or a rogue or a monk, because to them that's deviation, which means they're an inferior player.

The other type attaches an unhealthy concept of defiant masculine conservatism to the concept of a HMF. Defying dragons with sword and shield, but moreso defying others in the hobby by insisting on the concept being popular and powerful and based and chad. It cannot be suppressed by the 99% saying it's brainrot. It cannot be outshone by the teeming hordes of filthy libtards playing freakshit races and mages and women.
Where in reality the pc is a forgettable npc who never gets engaged with because he never engages with the quest, and the player is one of the more insufferable people you'll meet in the modern gaming sphere, because odds are he's short and/or fat, and constantly tells people their PC's are bad.
>>
>>97521828
Human Paladin here although paladin is just a cleric/fighter aesthetically
>>
>>97540233
Human male fighter fags are the modern Katana edgelord.

Annoying. Socially oblivious. Attention hogging. Parroting design tropes they don't understand. And little to no awareness of the table.

Except somehow they're worse, because an edgelord almost always makes a motivated character with flaws, which is good PC design.
Whereas a HMFfag typically does his best to make an NPC with as few hooks or attributes as possible, making him harder to DM for.

As a consequence, sitting down and presenting "This is Jeff. He's a human male fighter, sword and board. Yep."
Is the same as sitting down and saying.
"This is Darkfang. He's a half-angel antipaladin with a Katana called Moonsteel."

It's a dead fucking givaway what kind of player this person is probably going to be, to any hobbyist with a sense of the wider community.

>But I'M not like that! I'm special.
Or.
>How do I not make the same mistake as these lesser gamers.
When was the last time you played a human male monk? Human male ranger with a dog? Human male fighter, who's chief weapon was a crossbow, or a longbow, or a poleaxe?
>>
the more people whine about a class the better the class is
>>
>>97521828
Drow monk.
Even made her female because I found out last minute the Drow were intensely matriarchal, and I didn't want to limit my PC.

Still by far the most successful character I ever played.
>>
>>97540312
Agreed.
>See picrel. My Elf Fighter Taerindel.
>>
>>97540233
I like sword & board fighters as the archetypical team dad, someone who will help others and isn't unwilling to do some morally questionable things if it means it leads to his family being better for it.
Then again my dream S&B character isn't a human male but rather a sorta-ghost-sorta-zombie whose the conglomeration of the wills of a band of knights who now seeks a new home to devote their shield to
>>
File: 1749188848443591.jpg (14 KB, 182x187)
14 KB
14 KB JPG
For me it's the max Charisma and Intelligence fighter.
>>
>>97540848
Technically, Big E would be a Barbarian/Psion/Artificer/Paladin of (Self) from the GM's Dark Sun/Gamma World mashup campaign who broke the fuck out of the Leadership feat tree.
>>
>>97540848
>Big E
>Max Int

lol
>>
>>97540302
>when was the last time you played Human, Male, Monk.
Not that anon but 98% of my builds are that. Punching shit is the coolest. My only wish was that I could trade all the useless magical stuff from the class for Flurry to let me keep my movement so I can Pounce everything.
>>
>>97540302
>"This is Darkfang. He's a half-angel antipaladin with a Katana called Moonsteel."
I would play that...
>>
>>97540420
>>97541105
Then neither of you are problem players.
Problem players don't understand why simple but solid pc's work, and just copypaste the same HMF,S&B meme build because they think it makes them a better quality player, or a better quality man.

>>97541381
As would I. Edgy PC's with flaws, telling natures, and a focused concept are OBJECTIVELY good character designs.
It's why every early anime had characters like that, and lots of early players copied them.
Because they fucking worked.
The problematic edgelord however, never figured out why, so he just made them more and more edgy because 'that means better good'.
>>
File: heman.jpg (267 KB, 800x800)
267 KB
267 KB JPG
>>
File: human male fighter.jpg (280 KB, 989x1017)
280 KB
280 KB JPG
>backstory
Guard, like me dad and grandad.

>motivations
Guarding, mostly
>>
>>97540302
Pretty much. My experience is that human male fighter players are the ones who don't really want to take an active roll in the game. The wallflowers who just sit around, observe, and roll to attack when prompted.
It suits them well, because a fighter has quick turns and nobody expects them to be helpful outside of a fight, and so they're optimized for the most minimal participation possible.
>>
>>97539259
You do know Aragon has elven blood, right?
>>
>>97541804
Aragorn has elven blood in much the same way you have Genghis Khan's DNA.
>>
>>97541465
Problem players are going to be problem players regardless of what class they play. There could be a single class in the game and they'd still find a way to be a faggot.
>>
File: alice-voit-reneya-revan.jpg (801 KB, 1920x2839)
801 KB
801 KB JPG
What is the best love interest for a Male Human Fighter? Is it a female elf ranger?
>>
File: spear cape eyepatch.jpg (127 KB, 594x793)
127 KB
127 KB JPG
>>97541712
>Backstory
Dirt farmer

>Motivation
Not being a dirt farmer. Got stabbed in the eye for my troubles. Still glad to not be a dirt farmer.
>>
>>97540848
> corpse king
>max INT
>>
>>97540996
>>97541926
He was a brilliant scientist.
>>
>>97541871
An elf sorcereress who's evil and free her seduction towards the fighter.
>>
>>97541871
Human village girl Cleric.
>>
>>97541800
Because doing anything means showing character traits.
And showing character traits (outside the few meme'd ones agreed as acceptable) means you've given your PC something special or unique.
Which as we all know, is basically freakshit and as such is a lesser way of playing.

So naturally, you can't be doing anything.

>>97541860
Yes. But a type of problem player is the human male fighter fag.
Which is what OP is.
>>
Conan the Fighter/Thief
>>
>ideal party
Human Male Fighter (MC)
Female Elf Sorceress (love interest)
Male Elf Ranger (dies early)
Male Dwarf Cleric (comic relief)
Male Halfling Rogue (comic relief)
Male Gnome wizard (comic relief)
>>
>>97540233
Yep, my exact experience.
And I've gotta admit, I was actually that first stereotype for a long time. It took me a good while to actually open up and start experimenting and finding out which other classes I liked better.
>>
>>97521828
My first ever character was a half-elf rogue.
The second was a dwarf fighter.
>>
>>97541712
> Secret motivation
Funding his mistress
>>
File: ou-kyoungseo-3.jpg (751 KB, 1920x2397)
751 KB
751 KB JPG
>>
File: whatsapaladin.png (909 KB, 600x900)
909 KB
909 KB PNG
>>97521350
Always felt like the classic paladin is the evergreen archetype. You get to be an objective good guy and kick ass at the same time. Your character always has a motive for adventuring because you gotta quest and stop evil. Plus its cool to smite evil and get a magic horse.
Human is the classic race choice, for your knight in shining armor. But it does fit like a glove for dwarves, gives your half-orc a neat "fighting his evil nature" motivation, and you can play an Aasimar for your freakshit choice and still actually fit in most games.
>>
>>97521369
It's embarrassing? Really?
What makes it embarrassing? Do the other players at the table pull up threads like this to show you and then giggle and point at you?
>>
>>97548816
NTA, but it is embarrassing. Because now he's associated with a group of phenomenally unware, cringe-inducing 'players'. Half of which don't actually play games, and the other half of which play them terribly badly, get grumpy about it, and tell everyone else their game/character is shit.
>>
Are human male fighters the most oppressed combination?
>>
>>97521381
True. Plus have the best average-sized cock.
>>
>>97548889
no, that's still halfling fighter
>>
Fighter-chuds, rise up!
>>
>>97521350
Why can't the default be a Non-binary Fighter?
>>
>>97552806
Because they use they/them pronouns... and that’s a lot of slashing damage!
>>
>>97552584
I mean actual characters people actually play, not comic relief
>>
>>97521350
Simple concepts age better and last longer.
>>
>>97548816
>What makes it embarrassing?
did you read the post you replied to?
Are you clinically retarded?
>>
File: like me.png (79 KB, 837x225)
79 KB
79 KB PNG
>>
>>97556430
RIP fantasy with grand themes and bigger-than-life heroes.
>>
>>97557862
Yawn.
People want more grounded stories, and if you can't create narrative tension and character interest without going full capeshit then you're a dummy ding-dong.
>>
>>97560114
>capeshit
>when these tropes are older than superman
Zoomers and Gen Alpha are fucked.
>>
>>97540233
I played a human male fighter in my last campaign because everyone else was paying a spellcaster and I thought we should have at least one character who can take a few hits and deal consistent damage. He was male because I'm male
>>
>playing the NPC class
why
>>
>>97561205
It's only NPC class if you, as the player, are only reactive, and not proactive. Unfortunately, the average person who plays Fighter is an NPC.
>>
File: IMG_7028.jpg (84 KB, 1024x785)
84 KB
84 KB JPG
>>97521369
>blames /pol
Nigga, it’s the woke-tards that made it a thing.

when larian studios called out people for making white male fighters and called it “boring” it was the left that ran with it as some sort of win in the culture war.

As if *not* being a white male (fighter) was somehow special.
>>
File: IMG_3786.jpg (30 KB, 420x420)
30 KB
30 KB JPG
>>97531965
>posts a paladin
>african woman in culturally appropriated European (white) armor

How can you fuck up this badly?
>>
File: IMG_7154.jpg (322 KB, 986x1199)
322 KB
322 KB JPG
>>97541871
The cute tavern wench you met in the first village
>>
>>97561565
>a 5/10 for civilized men
>a 10/10 goddess for barbarians
>>
File: Brutal.jpg (8 KB, 225x225)
8 KB
8 KB JPG
I like human male fighters.
I also like a lot of other races and classes.
An interesting human fighter can be as interesting as any other race/class combo and vice versa.
idk I just like playing stuff. Doesn't matter to much to me but I'm not great at playing dedicated spell slingers. Partial spellcasters are fine though.
>>
The only time I've tried playing a human male fighter, half the table chuckled at each other like "is this guy serious?" and the rest stared at me in that way where they don't want to seem outwardly hostile but I definitely like like I did something really wrong.
DM took me aside to talk about it and I ended up playing a tabaxi ranger.
>>
>>97543676
and they are all running a train on the elf while the human male is asleep in his tent
>>
>>97561749
That DMs name? Wokesly.
>>
>>97561749
It really is the most persecuted character type
>>
>>97561540
>durr durr woke derp.
It was not a fighter and had nothing to do with woke boogeyman retards like you cry about. It was a cleric and they did not like this because they put so much work into character creator only for people to barely use it.
Not being a that is special as human fighter is the most common race class combo in D&D PnP.
>>
File: hercules-guercino.jpg (119 KB, 745x900)
119 KB
119 KB JPG
>>97521350
Is cool.
>>
>>97562723
Some would say he's a barbarian, but the man is Greek.
>>
>>97563176
>Speaks (Archaic) Greek
>Doesn't wear trousers
Barbarian check passed
>>
>>97563226
Isn't barbarian derived from a Greek onomatopoeia making fun of foreigners who can't speak Greek?
>>
>>97563451
Yeah.
You pass the Barbarian check by (surprise surprise) not being a Barbarian.

Like, wew lad.
>>
>>97541712
>My motivation is to not go out for an adventure
Nogamez confirmed
>>
>>97538211
>This is the level of mental gymnastics needed just to not say "I couldn't be arsed to make a character, here is my last-moment idea, give me that pen and sheet"
>>
>>97539259
>heavy armor,
wrong
>two-handed sword
wrong
>no real spells,
wrong
>no pet.
Wrong once more

Nigger, do you even know which character you are talking about?
Also
>rangers are defiend by spells and animal companions, and not being fucking RANGERS
Nigga, you dense
>>
File: chunyu-wang-asset.jpg (460 KB, 1280x1920)
460 KB
460 KB JPG
This is peak depiction of human male fighter debate me



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.