Netrunner 1996 with similar 90s era art/ascetics, not the NSG version

The /acg/ game is going to suck, assuming it's ever finished.

>>97529435
Hey Ma! I'm in the OP.

>TQ
Legions!

>>97529498
Is a card game truly ever finished?

>>97529435
>>Thread Question
>What dead game would you most want to see revived?
CHAOTIC COMING BACK IN 2026

>TQ
Wixoss

>>97529570
I thought the guy that made Chaotic got the rights back a while ago and was trying to reboot it

>>97527545
Gimmick suggestion: Union

Characters can be placed under other characters, called Union (because SEX is too crass)
Union restrictions vary according to the character, symbolising different preferences
Union position would be top or bottom
Top characters would be the main character in battle, gaining stats or continuous effects.
Bottom characters trigger effects upon Union, and stay on the field if the top loses a battle
Only characters in Union can hit the wizard for damage
Examples of Union related effects:
Characters can be both top or bottom
Characters can perform Union with multiple characters
Characters can only perform Union with a specific character or card type
Characters can discard the bottom character to trigger effects
Characters can forcefully separate opponent Union characters
Characters can force a bottom character to be top
Characters can force other characters to equip specific items

It should be a good base to design cards around, especially since anons can just turn their fetishes into card effects.

>>97530303
>Only characters in Union can hit the wizard for damage
Reading this line in particular makes me realize there is a LOT that could be done with Innuendo considering what "wizard" means. In this vein I move that "health" be solely referred to as "LP" within the game.

I think we should imply but never state that the game is two virgins summoning hot babes to goad the other into losing their virginity, and thus magic.

>>97530303
How horny are we talking about? Like Wixoss pin-ups or full on sex?

>>97530562
Initial pitch was like Wixoss pin-ups.

>>97529498
Even if it sucks at least we tried

>>97530567
Yeah I prefer that to naked girls

>>97530576
Same.

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>>97530303
>Character can gain control of opposing bottom, breaking existing Union and form new Union with the bottom

>>97530567
Initial pitch was hornier than Wixoss, and also less vague than it.
>>97530303
>Characters can be placed under other characters, called Union (because SEX is too crass)
I myself meant SEX to be represented by them side by side and not stacked because when SEX happens both girls are having SEX with each other for the purpose of the rules.
This I feel is overall distinct enough to be its own suggestion (and will hopefully lose to mine).
>>97530366
What if instead it was two hot girls trying to SEX the other but they're both tops?

>>97530303
>because SEX is too crass
Nothing so crass about characters performing a "Symbiotic Enhance-X" (the X is pronounced 'Cross') I'm sure. They are merely exploiting their nature to combine their biologies.
While we are at it, given the established topic, I know it's early but I'd like to suggest a title. Drawing on the image of the World Tree, the idea of characters of all sorts joining together (in symbiosis), and the limitless possibilities for what kind of sexy girls might join: "Yggdrasil Unite: Records of Infinity"
That seems like a nice name. Weebishly over the top in a way that's in line with the topic, echoing the nature of many ACGs too. It can even be shortened to a catchy acronym with totally no other ulterior meaning at all.

>>97529435
I know that I myself have received the latest Kickstarter releases of Ashes and Adventure Time Card Wars (both of which thankfully have solo modes), but have yet to try either out. Anyone have strong opinions about either?

>>97530366
If we go with LP then we could also subsequently use the Yugioh life system as well, since that game also uses LP + that generation of players are usually well into wizarding age by now

>>97530637
I thought of this, but the quagmire there is mixing up you and your opponent's cards and there are people who hate that

>>97530645
I proposed stacking since I wanted to see more "card peeking out has stats and effects written" stuff, and the top bottom thing was a neat thematically fitting coincidence

To re-anchor this post >>97527545 in the new thread:
Next up we'll settle on a gimmick. This is a core mechanic that will set it apart from other games. If you're going to lift from something please lift from something small and obscure.
That said, all suggestions will be added to the poll.

I'll start by suggesting the Wait system from Legions!. Each card has a Wait value, and you have a zone called the timeline. When a skill is used or a creature destroyed it goes on the timeline at a slot for its Wait value. Each turn all cards slide down 1, and when they come off the timeline you can play them for free. The rest of Legions! uses this to make a very constrained infrastructure, but we can potentially go in another direction with it.

Currently we also have Unions and Sex as suggestions. Please continue to make suggestions. I will also note that "none" will be an option on the poll.

>>97530303
I like this
>>97530688
>Yggdrasil Unite: Records of Infinity
Maybe keep this one in the oven for a little bit, we can come up with something less generic I'm sure

>>97528698
I want to understand this a little better: Excluding card effects, how different is this as a core mechanic to all cards having "Exhaust: Target creature can't attack on its owner's next turn"?

>>97530733
>something less generic
Oh so you just hate /u/ just say so then.

>>97530745
>"Exhaust: Target creature can't attack on its owner's next turn"?
Well, your own creatures stay SEX-ing with each other only until the start of your next turn, for one, probably. For two, every game is just like every other game but different if you want to be reductionist like that. For three, SEX-ing an opponent's card also inherently prevents it from, on its next turn, SEX-ing with one of yours or with another opposing card. Maybe we can say you can't SEX two turns in a row for balance purposes.

>>97530776
Oh that flew over my head

>>97530792
"Generic over the top anime slop title that literally is just an excuse to spell that out" is the whole point I was going for (just like the premise is an over the top mishmash excuse to have sexy girls).

>>97530789
>Well, your own creatures stay SEX-ing with each other only until the start of your next turn, for one, probably
Right, it probably should have been "during their controller's next combat step" rather than "on its owner's next turn". But I was just getting the gist, there's other nuances too like it not exhausting, but I feel like, again barring card effects, those nuances aren't going to be that important in gameplay.

>For two, every game is just like every other game but different if you want to be reductionist like that
I'm not being reductionist, I'm trying to understand how it works on a mechanical level, hell I specifically asked you for the differences assuming there would be some, but your defensiveness implies there's not.

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>>97530688

>>97530725
What would happen if "none" wins? Magic rules but sexy?

>>97530829
Then there'll be no central gimmick we're building around. There's still plenty of other decisions to be made like turn structure, combat, resource system, card draw and a dozen other rules that we can use to make the game interesting.

>>97530808
You are being reductionist, ironically while using very specific terminology. This is because you're autistic and can't communicate with others properly.

My idea of making a universal card game system that allows one to translate cards, mechanics and gimmicks from most other card games into it would have been better. This all came to me in a dream in which I used The Zombie Vampire's effect to make both players mill 5, then Special Summon a monster from among those cards, so I summoned a ST22 Barbamon that was among the cards I had milled.

>>97530842
>You are being reductionist
Then please annunciate the lost nuances, as I have previously asked for.

>can't communicate with others properly.
Classic projection.

>>97530808
>but I feel like, again barring card effects, those nuances aren't going to be that important in gameplay
But the effects are the whole point? The strategic depth of choosing whether to SEX two of your units for benefit, to attack with them instead, to SEX an opposing unit even if it has a negative consequence for you just to stop it from attacking or SEX-ing with another opposing unit or even another one of your own, the decision making involved. You're giving all your cards a second form of action that is different from attacking. Plus we've already discussed potential compatibility being involved. And you presumably can't attack a SEX-ing unit, but maybe they can't block either.
>inb4 "how is that different from MtG but every creature has 'tap: tap target creature'"
How is that not a wildly and fundamentally different game?

>>97530745
>how different is this as a core mechanic to all cards having "Exhaust: Target creature can't attack on its owner's next turn"?
"I can only understand things within the narrow framework of my experience" the post
>can only understand a mechanic other than attacking through its relationship with attacking
>can only express its function (incorrectly) through a nonstandard keyword
>fails to conceive how drastic of an impact even just what he described would have on design if made a universal mechanic in a game

>>97530842
>>97530870
>>97530882
Holy fucking butthurt. Calm down anon, go for a walk and calm down.

>>97530893
>someone disagrees with me? Must all be one single person.

>>97530893
Waiting at the doctor's for a checkup; I can't exactly up and leave.

What the fuck do you mean Metazoo is back. Who is falling for a second rugpull?

>>97530725
Final reminder to get your suggestions in.

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Wip to encourage the game designers
>>97531340
I like union honestly, if I had to give my suggestion I'd say something like Hearthstone's hero power, or maybe leader cards, but more drastic, changing the way the game is played.

>>97531394
Based.

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>Netrunner trannies have started raping eachother
Oh no!

>>97530688
I like Yggdrasil United Rising Infinity better.

Are they going to nerf the Lfrith and Rick Dias? Blockers here and blockers there, can't remove them

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I really love this Robin card, so I'm dreading trying to get it due to how fucked up the EB03 release is going to be.

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what's the rarest card you pulled (all card games)?

>>97532215
1 of 7 in wixoss

>>97532266
Pics (feel free to censor the exact number).

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>>97532299
Sorry I lied it was 1 of 10

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Sick alt art

>>97532435
nice

>>97532140
People are saying that sealed cases are expected to have a 4x multiplier on their price compared to MSRP. This expansion is going to be a bloodbath.
Fuck investorsfags forever.

>>97532140
>>97532534
I don't know who I hate more, scalpers or Bandai doing nothing about it
>>97532435
Based!

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in gundam tcg when you attack an unit, both you and the other player's unit lose HP. I don't get why they do this? for what purpose? balance maybe?

>>97532696
>balance maybe?
Balance definitely. Being able to take on an infinite number of enemy units as long as they come 1 at a time means you can just get and grow board presence too easy and then just swing through shields in 2 turns.

It's still insane to me that Gundam hasn't died yet that is literally the worst piece of shit TCG I have ever played in my entire life. I'd say I feel bad for fans of the Gundam franchise but they're willingly eating shit by continuing to support this game so they're getting what they deserve.

>>97532709
I see thanks
>>97532710
why you don't like it?

I really like monks, and am tired of the abuse we receive from WotC. Whats a good acg for me, that has a viable/playable monk/empty handed martial artist deck/archetype?

I know there's a karate fishman in one piece, but I don't know if you can make a karate deck. I'm open to any suggestions.

Can't get into DBZ.

what's the verdict on lorcana? There is a sealed event for the next set, never played that game and I am in generally bad at tcg's. Costs like 45 bucks and is in the next few days. I mostly played ygo, I also tried magic, because of FF

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>>97532824
If you mean Jinbe, you can. His deck is just big dumb aggro, by trashing multiple cards from your hand for a big power boost.

>>97532093
Jupitris stuff is pretty good against them. A lot of rest and repair available. A shame most people are only using the O as the top end of standard blocker slop

>>97532834
I cant get past how lame and gay lorcana is to assess the mechanics.

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can I destroy 2 unite with its effect after destroying two shields with <suppression> or not?

>>97532921
what is so lame about it? I do like disney stuff very much

>>97532435
Bestow thy blessings upon me so that I may open a 1 of 10 Riri / Nagase / Minamo when my boxes arrive.

>>97532921
The gameplay is fun, but most of disney's characters are lame and gay.

>>97533489
>Disney
>gay
Not while the Chinese market exists.

I watched a 50 seconds clip of the retarded Holo dogs and now I want to breed them; is their deck good?

>>97531394
Since you're not that sure, I'll genericise it to a Deck Identity Card of some kind.

New poll is up: https://poal.me/adsvek

Wait:
Each card has a Wait value, and you have a zone called the timeline. When a skill is used or a creature destroyed it goes on the timeline at a slot for its Wait value. Each turn all cards slide down 1, and when they come off the timeline you can play them for free. The rest of Legions! uses this to make a very constrained infrastructure, but we can potentially go in another direction with it.

Sex:
>girls can attach with each other to have sex
>you can't have sex and attack on the same turn
>girls have on sex effects that are positive or negative
>you can sex your girls with each other or sex a girl with an enemy
>there may be elements that determine the compatibility of sex and whether it can happen or not

>>97533653
Union:
Characters can be placed under other characters, called Union (because SEX is too crass)
Union restrictions vary according to the character, symbolising different preferences
Union position would be top or bottom
Top characters would be the main character in battle, gaining stats or continuous effects.
Bottom characters trigger effects upon Union, and stay on the field if the top loses a battle
Only characters in Union can hit the wizard for damage

Deck Identity Card
Each deck has a card that gives the player some kind of unique ability. Could just have a skill, could have stats.

>>97533489
>The gameplay is fun,
so how would you compare it to yugioh or magic?

>>97533912
>magic
better, but lorcana needs time to develop its cardpool and new mechanics. For example, magic has more permanent types because it is an old game
>yugioh
the gameplay is different, but I find yugioh's more fun

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>>97532824
Flesh and Blood has Ninjas as a class and Mystic as a talent. There's a lot of sword/dagger attacking but some Monk-like stuff in there.

20 euros for a localised version of FoW Zero with her ass out. Should I?

>>97530366
>Spoiler
It kinda sounds like what if the Joke behind VCard was thought out for more than 5 seconds. Speaking of, I recently learned an official tournament is happening in a couple months.

>>97533012
No. The shields die at the exact same time so it triggers the effect only once

>>97534726
ok thanks very much anoni

>>97533653
So if I get this right, you can play each card twice?

>>97534803
If you're talking about wait, you can play cards multiple times. if it comes off the timeline and you play it, it goes back on the timeline.

>>97534829
Mmh, it doesn't really tickle my fancy, could you give me an example of how it can lead to interesting gameplay?

>>97534915
The most obvious example is timeline manipulation. Spending resources on effects that either speed up your own timeline or slow down your opponent's. There's also the fact that it creates forecasted threats, you know in two turns your opponent will re-play their burn/removal spell, how will you play around it.

If we go with the restrained route like Legions! does there's also the trade-offs. You have 3 cards due to come off the time-line, but only two open slots. Which do you prioritize?

For card design it also opens up space for effects that slow your own timeline as a cost.

If it still doesn't sound interesting, then vote for something else.

What's a good solo card game to play? I'm 34 years old and I think it would be awkward playing card games with younger players

>>97533653
Reminder to everyone to get in and vote!

>>97534970
Solitaire

>>97534970
Playing with cute kids is the best part of the LGS experience.

>>97534956
Well since it's likely going to win I wanted to know what we are working with

>>97530690
Ashes is a solid acg. great game for brewing. complicated though, games can easily run 45-60 minutes. can't really speak to the solo but the regular 1v1 is top tier.
haven't played Adventure Time Wars yet can't comment.

>>97532824
there's a pretty decent monk class in varia for whatever that's worth

>>97535177
I think the main thing to keep in mind is that it supports slower paced games, rather than short, explosive ones. It'll also be pretty dependant on the resource system chosen. A scaling system and a flat system will feel very different.

That said, I'd not count your chickens yet, we've had upset victories before.

>>97532834
I am lame and gay enough to absolutely love Lorcana. It's like MtG back when MtG still felt good, except it's mixed with Disney nostalgia. There's also a lot less of that inter-turn bullshit that Magic does, while still being very interactive. There's also a far more diverse player base, so instead of 100% sweaty maladjusted nerd, you have about 60% malajusted nerd and a healthy mix of parents, children, teens, grannies, and lady land whales. It's very refreshing.

>>97534970
Lorcana does have a couple of standalone PvE sets that you can play on your own. I don't know of too many other tcgs that incorporate a solitaire more.

>>97535311
>more
mode. Excuse my fat fuck fingers.

Threadly card, which I almost forgot. First Location card shown, and also where you might start to piece together the base inspiration for the game if you're familiar with the subject.
Marvellous City
Once per turn, you may spend 2D to attach a creature you control to this card.
If this card has four or more creatures attached, you win the game.

>>97535295
>>97535177
We're getting a round two anyway aren't we?

>>97534383
Radical. I'll have to give it a try

>>97535297
Never heard of it. Thanks anon!

>>97535274
This lorcana thing got any monks

>>97535333
Got my quote responses backward there, but you get the idea.

>>97535311
It's become more common seems like. keyforge added it first, then ashes copied them, then lorcana copied them, then alpha clash copied them. and FAB has been working on theirs since before any of them but it's still not done.

>>97535333
Varia is another fighting game. It's got classes like FAB but you can mix styles. you choose how many levels you want in each class and then you have access to cards up to that level. there's a monk.

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>>97534970
Arkham Horror, Lord of the Ring LCG, the marvel ccg from FFG, etc.

When Warlord starts to have irl events (outside of conventions) I think you would blend well in the player base as most of the old folks are probably older than you.

Gonna ping the shop about shipping the boxes I ordered tomorrow.

>>97532824
>>97534970
Pathfinder adventure card game

>>97535327
I will run round 2 unless one answer gets more votes than everything else combined. At that point I think there's already a clear winner.

>>97534970
Damn, I'm 33. Guess I'm hanging it up in a year.

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>>97535333
Would you consider Mulan to be a monk?

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>>97531394
Don't give up on the game! Remember to vote!

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Vegito is going to be quite strong in FB09

>>97535450
I turn 40 in May. I'm older than most of the people that I invite to play The Condemned with me.

>>97529435
>TQ
Can we get FE Cipher back but this time with an English release

>>97532834
Seems like a fine game but I am of two minds with the theming. I cringe on reflex to Disney nostalgia but seeing how they put the cast in an alternative quest setting hits all the right spots for me.

>>97532696
>>97532709
My question coming from digimon is why don't the MSes in shield do battle with the attacking unit?

>>97533653
Final reminder to get in and vote! We got a close one this time, boys.

>>97534970
I think the list right now is:
>focused entirely on co-op or solo
FFG LotR
Arkham Horror
Marvel Champions
Aeon's End (idk kinda deckbuilder, kinda not)

>regular game with solo mode added
Lorcana
Keyforge
Alpha Clash
Ashes

>>97529435
>tfw packs are fucking horribly randomized
Huge fucking oof.

what was your most luckiest moment where you found cheapest boxes/boosters of a card game you wanted?
for me it was cheap FF tcg starter decks for 6 bucks

>>97537272
Probably old JP DM starters for 4 bucks because the shop was cleaning inventory.

>>97532696
You retards ever hear about Newtons Third Law of Motion?

>>97537338
?

>>97537356
If I hit you, an equal force hits me back, gundams are fucking METAL hitting each other

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>>97537389
oh ok thanks very much anoni hahah now I get it

>>97532921
>>97533489
>>97533912
I genuinely like Lorcana, I just don't play it because for some reason its dead in my town but its huge in every town around us

For Magellan's globe, couldn't it be used as a nice death's door closer? Colorless, cheap. Probably best in Fire decks where you've already got your opponents on death's door, but you've shredded your army in the process.

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Warlord is back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIWiOomJqI0

(glad that Team Covenant is handling the fulfillment of the KS)

>disneyslop
No thanks

>>97538457
They got any monk decks?

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Can I get any opinions about the deck I'm brewing? I really like the idea of Pathfinder turning into Mephistopheles and I tried to build it around it. I'm lukewarm about Aether core. I've included it to see how it fares.

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I'm playtesting different versions of a combat system for my CCG. I would like some input.

basically im trying to work around a gimmick where your cards make up different dice pools. IE, a goblin horde card would add 2d6 to a 'warband' pool, which is used to fight or capture other cards. wizards and magickal things add to a mana pool which can be used to cast spells. (ive decided currently that every increment of 4 on a dice counts as success, a d6 getting a 5 is a success, a d12 getting a 9 is two successes, etc)

however, there are some oversights in the system that need to be addressed. like what does combat even accomplish? how do you add depth to swinging a single large warband? how do you decide which units die in a fight?

does anyone know of any games that, even if not doing anything close to this, address limitations in design with similar beats, like ccgs that focus around one big monster?

pic related shows what ive got going on.

>>97539011
Each success for "Warband" deals 1 damage to your opponent's army. Each success for mana gives you 1 MP that you can use to cast spells.

Have you tried this most basic and obvious solution?

>>97539011
Dreamblade had dice rolling in it, albeit not nearly as varied as yours. Still, it might be worth a look.

>what does combat even accomplish?
That's a question you need to answer yourself, anon. I'm assuming it's rhetorical, because I cannot answer it.

>how do you decide which units die in a fight?
That's up to you. You might want to consider a "X successes to kill" value for each unit. That could be a good start.

>>97535297
>lady land whales
I'm now interested in Lorcana

>>97539044
I had a long response typed but I accidentally closed my tab. The TLDR is yes, but having this system for warbands creates too many strange rules questions like how damage is assigned to cards considering the warband is just a dice pool of every card in play that contributes. if a card doesn't contribute to the warband, how do you kill them?

im still trying to make what you said work because simpler is better in this case, i just have to work out the details of it.

at the very least, your example is how mana works.

>>97539046
i will check this game out.

Second poll for Gimmick:https://poal.me/8gmjy7

Union and Wait are the winners.

>>97539186
>but having this system for warbands creates too many strange rules questions like how damage is assigned to cards considering the warband is just a dice pool of every card in play that contributes
That's why you make a rule for it? Attacker assigns damage. Defender assigns damage. Attacker can spend 2 points to "snipe" a target, otherwise defender assigns damage.

>if a card doesn't contribute to the warband, how do you kill them?
"Damage must be assigned to units in combat first" Boom. Done. Problem solved.

to the uk anon who bought CB green purple deck (gundam tcg), did you try out the deck? is it good?

>>97539186
Dreamblade might also solve this, too. Units are placed in cells, and you engage in combat in that area. You might need to have 2 or 3 areas where your units could be fighting or supporting. Then warbands can target enemies in that space, and only attacking units in that space. Or have mechanics that attack other spaces. Dreamblade had this in Warpstrike, which was a very fun mechanic to play with. I had a whole build based around it.

how much time before gundam tcg creates card that search cards in the deck??

>>97539179
It's not my kink, but I think 2/3 of the girls I've played Lorcana with have been overweight... but then again, same with the guys. Of course, this could also vary by location.

>>97539193
Rigged.

>>97539186
>I had a long response typed but I accidentally closed my tab
Form History Control

>>97539193
Why not both? It should be an option

>>97540095
I didn't think of that., and I really should have. If we get a tied vote, we could do both. If Wait wins, Union could potentially be an archetype as well once we get to card design. Though that depends on how the rest of the game ends up shaping up.

>>97540035
I just read the polls man. If there's a more secure way to run them that can lock-out shenanigans let me know.

>>97540123
If Union wins can we still call it SEX?

>>97540095
>>97540123
I agree with using both as well, especially since they're both gimmicks that affect different aspects of the game: one controls pacing, the other controls card interaction

>>97540205
After thinking about t for a little bit I do think they could support each other well. Maybe Wait could be off-set the card disadvantage of Unions by recycling one of them when the Union is broken. e.g.Wait is only for skills and when a Union is broken/destroyed. When a Union is destroyed one of the cards is discarded, the other is sent to Wait.

>>97540198
Did you only vote for Sex because it was called sex?

>>97539659
Seriously, I might end up playing it if I end up having a lorcana locals near me someday

>>97540198
I don't mind the tounge in cheek Wixoss reference

>>97540258
My initial thoughts were that I wanted top cards to always protect bottoms, which is why I had only top cards getting destroyed when cards in Union battled. But the caveat of that is rush decks would probably be very easy to build. With the wait system, you could toss the saved bottom onto the wait list and avoid that.

More importantly on the thematical side however, when a Union is broken outside of battle, we could send the cards that were involved into Wait to represent cooldown time/sage mode, and perhaps some cards may even have specific effects that trigger while they are in Wait/sage mode.

>>97540411
We should call it aftercare instead of wait.
>>97540258
Yes.

>>97540348
Winterspell's out on Friday. Maybe you could catch a release event.

>>97540348
>>97540411
Speaking of Lorcana, for the past few days, /co/'s been having a better Lorcana thread than I've seen here in a long time. It's like anon said, Winterspell comes out in 2 days, and not even the diehards on here are talking about it.

>>97540989
Thanks, anon, but there aren't Lorcana locals near me, and I'm not going somewhere far just to play cards and see fatties. I'm sorry but I hate sealed too
>>97541015
>/co/'s been having a better Lorcana thread
I didn't know it has a Lorcana thread
>the diehards on here are talking about it
I blame the lack of a digital client

>>97541078
No worries, just figured I'd give you an excuse to indulge. But if sealed's not your thing, so be it.

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>>97534970
No one gives a shit how old you are, just don't smell and look normal
Otherwise what card/board games do you already like? And what part are you exactly looking for - the TCG feel, a quick game you can play in 10 minutes, something that makes you think?

>>97541106
Well, let's pray for a local scene near me that has the same type of people as yours

How do I learn what my local scene is like?

>>97541245
Find local game stores, see what games they play. Head in to an event.

I have a proposal for a future poll
Should the game be focused on draft, focused on constructed but draftable, or entirely focused on constructed?

>>97541345
That's a good idea, but I think it's a decision for later.

> Reprints of OP-13 and EB-03
We are currently moving forward with reprinting OP-13 and EB-03, with distribution expected to begin around June. For this wave, priority allocation will be given to Bandai TCG+ stores that consistently support Organized Play. Please be aware that delivery timings may vary by region. Retailers are encouraged to contact their distributors for details.

>>97539193
Forgot to say that we need to decide what the next poll is on. Turn structure? Resource Mechanic? Combat Mechanic? Something else?

>>97541245
Experience is the only true teacher in this sense. How can you know if you'll jive with the vibe unless you go out and live it?

>>97541378
Resource desu

>>97541385
So I should spend an afternoon walking around town to each store and autistically observing the environment inside?

>>97541505
No? I'm saying attend an event. Learn a new game, maybe. If the vibe is good, come back. If not, try a different place. Might be awkward as fuck at first, but that's the price you pay to find a group you like.

>>97541573
>I'm saying attend an event
How do I know events are happening?

>>97541732
By checking their online site or stepping in to the store and asking the cashier if they have an event schedule. This is not difficult. Be brave.

>>97541751
But I have autism.

>>97541781
So do I, but I've literally never had any issues heading to a store and playing cards with people.

>>97541802
Then your autism level is inferior to mine.

>check local store site
>last post is from over half a year ago
I don't even know if they're still open.

>>97541781
You're at an LGS. EVERYONE there has autism. Trust me. You're in good... no.
Decent? Hmm. Nope.
Tolerable? Still no...

Equal! You're in equal company. You will be just as irritating and obnoxious to them as they are to you.

Now go get 'em, Tiger.

>>97541810
No, you're just being a bitch and making up excuses.

>>97541817
>I don't even know if they're still open
Have you tried contacting the store?

>>97541817
>>97541832
Or check if they have a social media presence in lieu of updating their site. My LGS was like that for a few years.

>>97541781
Anon, you're playing a card game. You seek to dilute the awkwardness of dealing with social interaction by tying it to a framework of rules, something you're far more comfortable with. Well guess what? The guy across the table is doing the same thing. No matter where on the spectrum you or he land, the rules structure of the game gives you a point of compatibility you can hide within. A safe place from which you can observe this curious human species. You just need to take the first step. Get good, scrub.

>>97541906
The card game isn't the problem, the problem is the social interaction with the people charging you money to interact with other autists in the building

On one hand it's a little sad to check in on my LGSs' social media just to be reminded they're not running events for anything I'm interested in (my bad for mostly liking JP only stuff).
On the other it means I get to see pictures like a balding guy in his 30s with a playmat of his underage waifu playing Pokémon against literal children.

>>97541921
>the problem is the social interaction with the people charging you
Who deal with people like you day in and day out. If they know what they're doing, they're going to make that part as easy on you as possible, so that you make a habit of giving them money. Sometimes you just have to suck a little dick to get to the creamy goodness. That's the price you'll have to pay.

I tried looking at my LGS Instagram (ew) but they had pictures of people playing MtG (EW) and they were all using their freshly opened cards unsleeved (EEEWWW) and I was so disgusted by it

>>97541944
To be honest I have an easier time sucking dick than I do talking to strangers.

How expensive is it to get into Gundam?

>>97541953
Understandable, you don't have to make eye contact with a penis. Well, just one eye, I guess.

>samefagging over 20+ posts
Gross

>>97539193
Reminder to vote.

And contribute to what we should do next >>97541378

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>>97541937

>>97541991
I don't think you know what samefagging means.

I hate balancing.

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>>97532824
>>97538757
A monk pretty much won the second game (sealed) in this stream >>97538457
Also warlord has some really good monks.
In the image I searched for warlords that are monks. And all 3 of them were pretty much broken or really good at their time (2nd one suffered an errata to stop being broken)

>>97542130
Then you'd HATE Jenga.

>>97542092
average digimon fan

>>97541821
fucking kek

I am in mid-thirties and I only interest tcg with coom art. Will I get bullied at lgs?

>>97542458
if trannies they will go REEEEEEE
if not they will say "he is creep" but then ask you where to get

>>97539193
Final reminder to vote! Or keep it at a tie if you want to work with both.

>>97541378
If no one posts a convincing argument I'll probably reverr this to turn structure.

>>97542458
Depends on the game.
At my One Piece locals a lot of people have custom leaders with some pretty saucy art, but nobody really cares since that's normal for One Piece.

>>97542988
I want to say Win Conditions since when pitching a game to convince others to try people usually explain in the order of theme -> what we do in the game -> how to win, but since we already have a pretty clear "when opponent wizard dies/has secross" goal we can probably focus on something else

>>97543051
Yeah, I think win-con will likely be sorted out after combat, since combat will likely impact (or even define) it. That said, I don't think the order you teach a game is necessarily the order one should build a game.

>>97542769
>if trannies they will go REEEEEEE
Anon, they're some of the horniest fucking people out there.

>>97543128
they also hate anything even remotely attractive

>>97542240
Yeah, but kids don't know what digimon are so the only people seeing his waifu mat are other 30+ year old weebs

>>97543251
Wrong.

>>97542351
>only interest tcg with coom art.
Wait until you stop fapping over the course of next five or ten years. You'll drop cards altogether.

>>97543493
Skill issue.

https://youtu.be/WVEIACywN_U?si=Z3Cpd6nICauRnYRk
didn't youthere was a ultraman card game

>>97541958
Depends on the deck. Not just "How eta" but "how recent" because they short printed the shit out of early cards so they're big expensive. Recent cards are generally cheap with a couple exceptions like Barbatos which can be pulled from fairly available packs, but is both a fan favorite and part of multiple meta decks as a 4-of. 30 or 40 bucks should get you some reasonable success at locals, a full on meta playing at vegas this weekend deck will be closer to 160, and then it goes up from there fore alt arts and shit.

>>97544028
They should start selling the cards and the kits together.

>>97544039
They already did the mini-models with starter decks and alt arts of existing cards with accessories like sleeves and mats. I would fully expect them to do some shit like put an alt art in the next PG kit or something.

i guess the fuckfab guy quit for real, haven't seen a thing since high seas

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>>97542458
>>97543304
He's right. Trannies hates on anything related to heterosexuality because most of the people they have a crush on are normal straight people that would never consider dating a freak like them.
They see anything that is normal as a threat to their ideology, so they hate you for displaying normalcy around their "safe space". Feminists hates it because they’re insecure about their own appearance and see the 2D females on cards as an unattainable standard and competition they feel they could never measure up to. Whipped neckbeards and boomers with erectile dysfunction hates on them because it reminds them of what they can’t have or enjoy. Finally, you have the normies (like YGO players) who don’t necessarily hate on the coom arts, but will laugh at you and call you weird for using female cards as a guy or being attracted to 2D females. They have different girlfriends every other year and have sex often so they can’t really understand why someone would prefer 2D over 3D. They're quick to judge but as long as you show that you're just a normal guy, they'll probably respect it.

Now you know why censorship exists on cards in the west, it’s meant to cater to every single mentally ill group. As long as your LGS don't have any of them, you'll be good.

>>97544058
Are those still available?

>>97544705
Go back to your Yu-Gi-Oh thread.

>>97539193
We've got a tie, so the answer is both!
Recap: Our game is a horny wizard battle with both stacking units (Union) and cards that return after use (Wait).

Next order of business is to determine the turn order. I've got 4 main systems:

Alternating Activations: Both players share a main phase, each player alternates taking actions
Big Main Phase: Start turn -> Main Phase -> End Phase. Attacking is an action during the main phase.
Single Main Phase: Start turn -> Main Phase -> Battle Phase -> Battle Phase
Dual Main Phase: Start turn -> Main Phase 1 -> Battle Phase -> Main Phase 2 -> End turn.

We don't need to hash out the details here, just get a general flow of how a turn goes. Any more suggestions for different turn structures we could use?

>>97544705
>expert
>thinks minorities are censoring international corporations that can't be controlled by the government
spending all day blindly beliving what /pol/ says doesn't turn you into an expert

>>97545706
fuck off commie.

>>97541937
>a playmat of his underage waifu
Based!
>>97542092
Based too!
>>97542458
Depends on the type of people that go to your lgs
My kitchen table friends wanted to give me a playmat with BeelStarmon's crotch fully exposed, but my old lgs wouldn't accept it
>>97544705
Unironically this

>>97545661
>with both stacking units (Union) and cards that return after use (Wait)
I think you mean SEX and Aftercare, baka.

You need to stop judging people from Xitter screenshots and actually talk to them because trannies are some of the most degenerate people I know. At least half the ones I've met are into cunny.

>shop shipped my Pandora Wars box early this morning
Nice.

>>97545661
Alright I've got a crazy idea, let's call alternating actions
There is no traditional turns. Instead, the players can take one action alternating between each other. Actions include playing cards, drawing, gaining resources (assuming we are doing resources), attacking, activating effects etc.
Basically a mix of runeterra and netrunner

>>97546341
I'll add the idea, but I think we should have a different name, the "Alternating Actions" is too close to "Alternating Activations" for my taste. Maybe "Only Actions" or "No Turns"?

>>97529435
I don't think this is a bad thing , if anything I like it.


but have you guys seen a TCG that isn't defined by its power creep?
it migh have some , but that isn't the point of the game , you could be expected to be able to play today , the first cards to ever be relased

>>97546374
Call it initiative.
Also we might decide that players can take more than one action on their activation

>>97545830
>actually talk to them
Never again. I can't remember what I ate for lunch most days, let alone 500 fake pronouns per tranny. So tired of those retards always looking for some reason to be offended. Any conversation is a fucking minefield and never worth the effort.

>>97546425
>Call it initiative.
Initiative could work.

>Also we might decide that players can take more than one action on their activation
At that point it's just Big Main Phase with an Action Point system.

>>97546455
Stop being on Xitter.

>>97546374
We need it to be a sex metaphor. Thrusts, maybe?

>>97546613
Stamina?

>>97546464
Is it okay to have both in the poll? Initiative and action points?

>>97547158
>Is it okay to have both in the poll?
As I said, that would fall under Big Main Phase. So it's already kind of on the poll. Limiting the amount of actions you can take in a turn seems like a subject for a different poll to me.

Does any place list provenly successful FoW decks or give meta / tournament coverage and such?

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Found that chart that shows what 2nds hit what color for +50.

>>97545778
Aftercare makes me think of old people

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>>97547263
https://youtu.be/g5pqUD9pBso?si=uJ_6_1_kCy_v9-1l

https://www.fowtcg.it/articoli?s=Decklists+Top+8

>>97547569
>It*lian

>>97547578
Italians plays this game more than anyone.

>>97544532
not really much call for it now that fab is fucking itself

>>97547632
>now that fab is fucking itself
They went from the highest highs to extreme lows in record time. Fuckers didn't even know what hit 'em.

>>97547616
Why?

>>97547616
And yet the most ACG stuff my locals have is FaB and Gundam.

This looks interesting, especially since it's not just FoW. I need to check what other games have been added to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSaeu6Zabws

This general has turned into 'create my own tcg'. Barely see any talk on tcgs

>>97547871
Be the change you want to see.

>>97547662
I don't know, they've loved this game since before the game rebooted in 2014. They've always had one of the most active FoW community since then.

>>97547871
The new Lorcana set, Winterspell, comes out tomorrow. Some of the new blue/green combos it unlocks are disgusting.

>>97547871
Does it really bother you? Should we move it to a different place?

>>97548097
Not keep it here. I think tcg design has took a decline, no ones really being creative anymore.

>>97547871
Maybe you should have joined Neopets or Little Troubles

>>97548210
i've created a tcg but i'm too honest as a person to do powercreep and enable gamblers

>>97545661
Reminder to get your ideas in for turn structure.

>>97548097
>>97548210
Not that anon, but tcg discussion on this thread is already splintered between many different games, and it's pretty noticeable how much of the thread this project has taken over. I won't complain if you decide to stay, but you could easily branch off into your own thread. You might even get more attention that way.

>>97549068
This implies that somehow talking about the project prevents people from talking about other games. Also you don't want the rest of the board to poison what we have.

>>97549090
It isn't an implication. It's an outright statement. You can clearly see that all other conversation has taken a backseat to your game design discussion. Like I said, I'm not going to argue any further, because I don't mind that discussion, but you can't look at the content of these threads since your project started and tell me it hasn't muted all other discussion. That's an insultingly dismissive attitude, and the other anons here don't deserve it.

>>97549127
It's a retarded fucking statement you dumb ass. If you took out all the game design posts the thread would have less posts, not the same amount. I'm not choosing to post one or the other. I'm discussing the game and I'm still talking about other stuff, and so is doing everyone else. Taking out the game discussion wouldn't magically make more discussion about other stuff appear, it would just make the thread more of a bumpfest. The only thing that tricks you into thinking we had the same amount of activity before are the hundreds of shitposts about Sorcery and both those faggots appear to have been banned. If you yourself feel unable to discuss other ACGs because people are talking about the project that is your mental illness.

>>97549127
>and tell me it hasn't muted all other discussion
Muting the random fuckfabs, fuckbandai, fucksorcery, and all the other shit that usually bumps the thread to 370 in two days is a plus in my book, plus it didn't stop the "uwu i duwanna go to lgses uwuowo" retards above anyway

>LGSs are too full of trannies and faggots
>if you're a trannifaggot you should go to your LGS
I don't get it.

>>97549232
I quit going to Digimon locals because of a weird tranny that didn't understand the concept of personal space.

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>>97547871
I'll have more to say next weekend when the Kagurabachi set comes out for Union Arena. Other then that I'm testing the Sanouske deck to take to locals this Sunday.

>>97549335
>not having sex with it instead
Anon...

>>97549409
My loss. That just means more cock for you I guess. Have fun, anon.

>>97543499
Way to out yourself as a terminally horny goon

>terminally horny goon
BASED goon brother

>>97550207
Anon hasn't posted the rest of his horny cards binder yet.

>>97550289
I should start my own collection desu

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>>97549127
You should probably kill yourself ^_^

New poll is up: https://poal.me/79snlt

We have five choices:

Initiative: Take a single action on your turn
Alternating Activations: Both players share a main phase, each player alternates taking actions
Big Main Phase: Start turn -> Main Phase -> End Phase. Attacking is an action during the main phase.
Single Main Phase: Start turn -> Main Phase -> Battle Phase -> Battle Phase
Dual Main Phase: Start turn -> Main Phase 1 -> Battle Phase -> Main Phase 2 -> End turn.

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what your recent purchase?

>>97550852
alteranitive action sounds interestting

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>>97550867
Playmat

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>>97550867
Got the Reiju alt art leader.
Deck's been powercrept out of the meta for a while now, but I do still enjoy playing it at the non-meta days at my LGS.

>>97550852
I've always been s fan of your main phase just letting you do whatever you want (attack, play a card, activate effects, etc) in any order as long as you have enough resources. I assume that's what you mean by "Big Main Phase".

>>97550872
>white purity
I read that as "white pussy"

>>97550932
Yeah, that is exactly what I mean by that. The thing FoW and most Bandai games has.

>>97550955
>most Bandai games has
Damn. I've been caught again

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How do you anons feel about games that use anime screenshots as the card art? Is it lazy or SOVL?

>>97550852
I want to break from my normal neutrality while the poll is running and put forth an argument for Single Main phase.

A common rule in card games is "Do things as late as possible" generally to restrict your opponent's information and keep your options open, as well as maximising your own information when making a decision. With a single main phase before combat a player is forced into the position of committing before the uncertainty of combat. Combat is generally the part of the game with the most interaction between players, and thus the part of the game that is the most uncertain. Forcing a player to make all their decisions before combat means that the choice is more interesting as they have to do what will put them in the best position or their opponent's turn before they can know what their board will truly look like.

>>97550985
>lazy
I hate it

>>97550867
Sleeves. I'll need more and a few binders as well soon. For actual cards, my Love & Abyss box, which should be shipping next week.

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>>97550985
it works well with FF tcg, in my humble opinion

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random ssp, suddenly appears
Second time I opened one

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>>97550928
Based.

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>>97550867
I think some new Dragonshields back in December. Holoka's set 4 releases in EN next week so I'm picking up pic related along with some other cards.

>>97551098
whats this card game?

>>97551098
Kitty!

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>>97550985
Very ugly and lazy.
Even worse when it's a meta-relevant card so you have to see it over and over again.
Really glad OP stopped this shit after the first few sets.

>>97550985
I think it works fine in conjunction with the frames and layout in ScoreZ.
Something like >>97551323 just looks awful all around.

>>97551146
>Choose 2 of your holomem on stage, each with only 1 color and of different colors from each other. Reveal from your deck 1 1st non-Buzz holomem with both colors from the chosen holomem and add them to hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards.
God fuck what a poorly worded effect. Bushi has been doing English releases for over a decade and they're still incapable of writing intelligible text?
Legit almost typed holomon too.

>>97550867
I pre-ordered 2 booster boxes of Lorcana's Winterspell. It releases today, but they only shipped my boxes today, so I might not see 'em for a few days, at least.

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>>97551323
Should also mention that they did eventually reprint that card (along with most other relevant screenshot-art-cards) with new custom art.

>>97551268
lycee overture

>>97551386
ok thx

>>97550867
Riftbound booster box

>>97551386
What's the card number on the cat, anon?

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>>97551338
Seeing Bushiroad's localization in action has been a ride. I don't think they'll be able to live down pic related.

>>97551443
lo-6417-k

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>>97551449
Another recently found fuck up: unlimited debut holomem get their Arts' form their their introductions, and JP/Dev_Is all have localized versions.
>“Come one, come all! From hololive DEV_IS, I am ReGLOSS's hype squad and jokester, and the Juufuutei Group's curtain raiser and apprentice, Juufuutei Raden!”
They managed to screw up something they didn't even have to translate themselves.

>>97551449
I don't understand the significance of this. Does this break some sort or archetype support? YGO has some fuckups from localization.

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post your card game decks. all I have is FFtcg starter deck and no one to play with (T~T)

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>>97551545
A big part of FuwaMoco's brand and something the two will hammer into viewers' brains fast is that Fuwawa is the Fluffy One and Mococo is the Fuzzy One. This isn't even something that had to be localized, FuwaMoco are EN members. Bushiroad somehow managed to mess this up and give Mococo her sister's title.

>>97550990
seems like you could avoid all those pitfalls by just... not doing shitty mtg turn phases. of all the things to copy, why that trash? is there a single example of a game that uses it and doesn't suck?

>>97551645
Because their work pipeline is clearly based on localising JP stuff

>>97551670
If you're talking about "Big Main phase" as an alternative, then all the problems I listed are still there. If you're talking about alternating actions, then I agree, that is another solution.

I don't think that I can think of a game that uses SMP that actually does suck. Pokemon maybe? Rush duel uses it and is better for it, Battle Spirits uses it, and is way better for it.

>>97551554
Which game?

>>97551833
it's final fantasy the tcg

This isn't going to work. Your turn structure is based on your gimmick. Union and Wait don't really work with Alternating Actions or Initiative.

>>97551863
*SEX and Aftercare

>>97551863
that horny nude porn sex card game idea was a mistake

>>97551863
I'm starting to think that horny game was not good after all

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I just topped my first LGS's 8 people small weekly Gundam today :D Despite winning 3 packs all the LRs and Alts went to the paricipating single packs, lmao

>>97552098
what did you win? what deck did you use, am happy for you

>>97551863
Initiative currently has 0 votes, so I don't know why you'd assume that's going to win. For Alternating Actions, I don't know why you think that is incompatible with either of the gimmicks.

>>97552106
The CB deck posted last thread.
3 packs GD03 for placing 1st. The LGS will add participation/prize packs starting March, that's when they officially start being official or something.

>>97552086
>>97552097
It could have worked before the gimmick shit was added. Just have the art be lewd girls. They could have been witches or ninjas or whatever as long they were lewd. Honestly, letting anyone suggest things was the really retarded part, specially if you were going to decide with fucking poll.

>>97551484
Much appreciated.

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>>97550867
6 packs of the new Neopets set Void Within from Target today (wow they had a loose box instead of the sleeved blisters)
No full arts sadly but these were my best pulls/favorite card from each pack
My best pull was probably the Bython Buddies Wearable code but the Styx and Lord Darigan foils are my faves
Next time I'm going to buy a whole box though

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Oooh, I couldn't find the one that anon posted, but I found picrel, which looks super cute ^_^

What are some card games with alternating actions?

Anyone here play Grand Archive or know more about it?

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>>97552193
so now all we can do is continue with that poll thing. I'm not against it because I want to know how far this whole thing will go
>>97552191
>(CB) deck
I knew this deck was good. good job anoni. how much did you put Gundam Exia (trans-am) on the field? did the trash filled up quickly for trans-am effect?

>>97552238
Fuck yeah, Styx is awesome! Nice pulls, for sure.

>>97552193
>Honestly, letting anyone suggest things was the really retarded part, specially if you were going to decide with fucking poll.
Yeah, it should all be run by one person who rules it with an iron fist.

>>97552254
>how much did you put Gundam Exia (trans-am) on the field
Mail didn't arrive in time, kek, will try out next week.

GN Armor/Dynames+Lockon came in more clutch when the time came to surprise remove a big opponent unit (eg a linked Qubeley), as did Armed Intervention Command to ruin opponent's turn plan.

If Exia's pair/link didn't activate to mill, it is quite hard to get trash to 7 or 10 CB. Have to rely on that, and O Gundam fodder and Virtue blocking+dying.

>>97552243
Star Wars Unlimited, Star Wars: destiny, Warlord , Mega Man NT Warrior, I think WH40k Conquest.

>>97552308
This, but unironically. Design by committee is how you wind up with a bunch of concepts smashed together without a clear vision. Like Highguard.

>>97552315
thanks. too bad for trans-am haha. you can use the base freeden, it mills two cards when destroyed. I hope (CB) will have more support so milling get easier

>>97552343
Your words don't mean what you think they mean.

>>97552193
I'm choosing to deliberately have a light touch outside of organizing because I want this to be a community project. I gave it a simple structure people can adhere to and am just keeping the project going. If I wanted to just make a good game, I'd work on my own or recruit a small team for a separate space.

Gundam JP Finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqb_WDrMbZg

>>97550852
What was the turn structure for the game where the Wait system came from?

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Wip. I think arguing about mechanics is inevitable, it was going to happen sooner or later. Personally I was gonna vote alternative activations but you anons talked me out of it

>>97552739
I wish to SEX with this creature.

>>97552696
Big Main Phase.

>>97552655
why they look at each other's trash?

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>>97552739
I'm trash at backgrounds sorry

>>97552851
thats actually nice

>>97552851
Looks good to me, anon.

Gonna need binders and sleeves soon so I'll use that as an excuse to check some new shops in the area. There's one that opened at the end of last year.

>idly looking at FoW news
>usual monthly tournament happening
>click on it out of curiosity
>one of the shops listed is in my area
>look it up
>location is a little out of the way but not far
>look into socials
>dead but they were posting Wixoss stuff
>find online store
>literally the most ACG shop I've seen here
>Wixoss, FoW, Sorcery, Gundam, OP, GA, more stuff too
>they're even selling some femboy-looking promos of a cat with its ass out
>suddenly notice the location listed is different from the one I saw before
>look around better
>"online only store"
>location was actually just placeholder for legal reasons, hence being out of the way
>tournaments were held online, not even sure they're still being held now
I'm crushed.

>>97550852
Reminder to vote!