The Key to all of This edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97529562 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Fyreslayers have a key subtheam in their design. Any other odd design threads you've noticed?
>tqNighthaunt is full of roses
>>97542903>The fourth one is probably the ugliest UW warband to existKnives of the crone are ass but kamendora's blades are right there bro.But I do agree with your larger point that they're actually pretty well represented in the larger setting despite being the second smallest army in the game after fyreslayers (and SoB I suppose). Still, they really could use a second wave. Though I think the more likely option is that they simply get the fyreslayer treatment and get souped with the inevitable umbraneth release.>>97542892What are the keys about actually? Is it because it's the symbol of aqshy, or is it something about dwarven gold hoarding or both?As for other subthemes it's not exactly subtle or odd or anything but I like the ironjawz pig armour thing they've got going on.
I don't know what's wrong with me. I have tried to paint armies and get into 40k, AoS, Old world, Necromunda, the list goes on, and I just always hit a point where motivation drains and the thought that an entire grey tide still awaits me just pisses me off to the point where I sell my armies, and start from scratch months later. I've only ever completely painted 3 armies in 8 years: Gitz, Slayers, and Legions of Nagash, and each time I completely painted these armies all my friends sort of dropped out of the hobby and came back in at different times so I ended up selling them all - I'm a dickhead I know. There's 2 gaming clubs that have opened up within 15 minutes drive of me and I'd like to play games again I just don't want to have to commit so much fucking time to building, sorting mold lines out, basing, priming, and then getting to the fun part of actually painting what I have. I also feel like I've almost exhausted all options for Aos, I don't think there's many factions I haven't owned at some point. How do you get over burnout and the constant consumption of grey tide shite
>>97542943You shouldn't buy whole armies at once. Get and paint them kit by kit to have a sens of compleating something
>>97542936>both?bothit's technically because aqshy's symbol is a key, and since fyreslayers are nothing but slayers with fire then they were handed the key as symbol as wellin the fluff they rationalise it as keys being symbols for authority over the inner chambers where they keep all the ur-gold
>>97542943Idk anon your issue sounds like you get into things too hard too fast, maybe consider some lower model type games? Underworlds or warcry if you're looking for something aos specific, I guess that would be kill team or necromunda for 40k. You mentioned you already played the latter, how'd you get burned out so fast on it? Isn't that a fairly low investment type of game?Finally you could also try spearhead for aos, it's a bit bigger than your average gw squad based skirmish game but still a ways off from full aos. It also solves the issue of buying more greytide since you can physically only play with what's in the box. On a similar note you could try battle march for tow with one of the battalion boxes ig, though I'm less familiar with the gamemode, you'd have to ask /wfg/ for more info.In the end it seems to me like it'll come down to you being able to set strict boundaries for yourself lest you end up with a pile of shame again.
>>97542936Current rumors say that DoK are getting a box of new infantry and a faction terrain. It's not much but at least not just a pity hero or another sidegame stuff.
>>97542943Come to Spearhead, boxes are small enough that the "pile of shame" is less threatening, and the small size/no listbuilding means it's just easier to store away when you don't play with it.
>>97542946I think that's what is getting me. I'm a Jew for deals and bundles, but I'm earning a lot more money now so I think sanity is more important than saving a few extra bucks.>>97542969 I definitely am going to buy either a blood bowl, necromunda or Kill team to get me started. I've also wondered getting the 3D printer set up again, I don't really have a good spot for it, but I should be able to find a temporary one if I rejig some furniture around. It'll give me a lot more options for fun paint projects as I'm not entirely married to GW games. Spearhead I think is my limit in terms of model count. I want to really focus on bases and models one at a time, so something like a Skaven army would wreck my motivation. I should have invested in Ogres before they changed the spearhead box. Definitely need to set up boundaries and try and be strict with myself.>>97542981 I'm considering Spearhead definitely. There's a few boxes that have really peaked my interest again, and I suppose I don't have a time limit on completing it so I can just go at my pace and sort bases out the way I like doing instead of trying to rush the job for a tournament or game day sesh
Picrel has all the factions that have been included in warhammer quest for aos, either as heroes (left) or enemies (right). I'm only counting new miniatures here, so no expansions of existing minis, or shadows over hammerhal which was all existing stuff. Also obviously no white dwarf supplements etc. Especially for silver tower the faction layout was pretty different, you could count the warpriest under CoS and the elves under DoK, and for cursed city you could count the ogre as mawtribes though he technically wasn't, but I hope you guys find this sort of fair.For those keeping score, the factions that have (so far) been absent for whq are nighthaunt, flesh-eaters, idoneth, bonereapers, sons of behamat, lumineth, orcs, seraphon, slaanesh, khorne, and finally helsmiths. Finally there's also mawtribes and DoK, but like I said before they kind of have honorary appearances.By far the most common faction to appear is CoS, they've got like a dozen heroes. Sylvaneth also appear twice, and both times it's kurnothi which is pretty funny.Anyway, my question is, what factions would (you) like to see next in a new warhammer quest, or alternatively some expansion models for darkwater? Personally I'm surprised we haven't seen any seraphon or FEC heroes, they seem like they'd be offer some unique stuff visually and thematically. I'd also like to see some more "evil" factions joining the hero lineup, like the darkoath chieftain in silver tower which was cool as fuck.Since we've now had two (majority) chaos enemy factions and one death, I'd like the next enemy faction to be destruction. A good mix of gloomspite and warclans could be fun. Anyway, what do you gusy think?(Sidenote but the darkwater logo is quite boring compared to the other two)
>>97543243>Sylvaneth also appear twice, and both times it's kurnothi which is pretty funny.I'm not sure they did. I'm not 100% confident on this, it's been a minute, but I think CC's elf girl was keyworded for CoS.
>>97543262She wasn't. She was Sylvaneth
>>97543262Were wanderers still a thing by then? Either way, she's definitely sylvaneth
>>975432751st Kurnothi was released into Sylvaneth long before Wanderers got civilised
>>97543275Yeah this was back in 2e some years before Wanderers were dropped from CoS. But if we're being honest then Kurnothi are something between a substitute and a revamp for the holdover Wood Elf range.
I'm a very slow painter but I ended up getting very quick at painting skeletons. Kinda want to get more skeletons to keep this energy going
>>97543243>next in a new warhammer questan idoneth, a chuardin, indiana jones, his ogre pal, a stormcast, tribal ghoullum and a suspiciously jade wizard must delve into, and then escape from, the self rearranging ruins of talaxis for filling their pockets with treasures the game goes from cooperative to competitive with players betraying each other in the second half as everyone is going after different relics and objectives and is willing to sacrifice the others to escapethe ruins are full of saurus guards, carnivorous plants and silent beeoplename of the box would some wordplay on jumanji I can't be bothered to come up with, and most of its atmospheric text is about being stuck in the gnarlwoodsz physically and psychologically
>>97542892>TQCoS and squares. Their shields are two squares, one rotated to make the point at the bottom, with a square on top for the symbol. Most of the Freeguild guys have shoulder armor that's a square with a rounded top. Some of them have little square metal bosses on their cloth chest things. When you really look at the models, you'll see squares all over the goddamn place
>>97543243Destruction quest would be cool. Also I think it'd be fun to have a bunch of evil "heroes" go up against an order faction, though I don't think gw would do that got commercial reasons. Honestly surprised we haven't had a ghoul hero yet, it practically writes itself. Nighthaunt or osssiarch heroes could be fun too, like the spirit of some long dead great warrior, or a dude that's simply there to collect the bones of the big bad.>>97543351>warhammer quest: gnarlwoodPure evil>>97543354I don't think you need to look all that closely at cos to see the square fetish lel. Though I think many people may not realise the castelite formation thing is very literal.
How much longer does AoS have to live? 4 years? I think the next edition will be an End Times type thing.
Two more weeks one of ours was being retarded in /wfg/ yesterday so I can't be too annoyed with the shitflingers today I suppose
I’ve been reading this in preparation for the new one with Chaos Dwarfs, I’m about two thirds of the way through and enjoy it well enough, it’s boring in a way I like it that makes sense, lots of politicking and administration stuff, my only complaint is if the Chorfs show up as often as the chaos warriors do in this then they will get half a page
>>97543418I enjoy AoS and am mid on playing TOW but it has gotten better with their missions/objectives support and rebalancing efforts. There's absolutely no reason both games can't coexist, but GW's Sears-like internal competition so that each kit can only exist for one game specifically is awful.
>>97543614what fo female manticores look like, I wonder?
>>97543418>one of ours>implying it isn't the same fags false-flagging against both AoS and OWAnyway, Spearhead is fun and I'm hoping to get a game of it in this weekend. Really like the Darkoath spearhead, it's technical and they're so pillow-fisted you're always trying to play the objectives.
>>97543630Infernadine is a female manticore.
>>97543639I named my daughter Infernadine.
>>97543639no
>>97543639>PARALYSING VENOM:When an enemy beast closes in on Infernadine, his scorpid tail darts forth, injecting a paralysing venom that quickly takes hold.
>>97543705The scorpion part is male.
>>97543708
>>97543708that's not how grammar works
So the community in TOW, spearheaded by pussy footing efforts of Square Based and the actual effort of the based German Comp team, decided that 'enough was enough' to GWs absolutely shit balance and just re wrote big pieces of the game themselves (particularly pertaining to army rules).Why can't the AoS community do something similar for the previous books, basically anything pre Nurgle with maybe an exception for FEC (who had some care out into them).Why are we so happy to roll over and take it up the ass from GW. Why are we content to let half the armies be fucking boring shit?
>>97543639How do you know his name is Infernadine, and not know he’s male?
>>97543705It's a biologically female manicure that self identifies as a male manticore
>>97543742See>>97543705
>>97543750
Obviously it would be called a womanticore if it was female guys ffs
Female manticors have tiger heads
>>97543740I know I'm replying to bait but isn't the tow renegade thing for the legacy factions? I think it's a case of rules being ass enough and explicitely called an afterthought by gw that "the community" stepped in.A similar thing actually happened in early AoS, in the infamous pre-ghb era without points, there were a few community projects to give every unit in the game points.These community rules only really manage to take hold if gw lets something languish. It's usually not a problem of boring or shitty rules, but of the absence of rules altogether that gets people to agree on some general fixes.Keep in mind, people houserule all the time. But for the larger community to come together and decide on some "universal" house-rules like legacy renegades or pre-ghb points, requires actual abandonment by gw.
>>97543767that part of the name refers to what it eats, not what it isif it ate women it would be a zancora
In Ferna Dine sounds like an old Irish folk song >the saddest fucking pipes and fiddle you've ever heard in your life>In Ferna diiiiiine I lost my looove...
>>97543789The German Comp actually addresses some underperforming 'supported' armies as well as some overpowered 'supported' ones, as well as the legacy factions.And TOW isn't 'abandoned' in any sense, the community just got tired of GW not moving to fix broken (good and bad) factions. Just the community got tired of their shit and did a better job.Hell the older books have effectively been abandoned by GW, you will NEVER get any sort of rules rewrite or substantive rebalancing of the old flavorless books, all we will get is a few pussy footed points adjustments for the foreseeable future. Stormcast will never get a rule to make them more interesting, IDK are going to stuck doing the same shit spam lists they always have, Night haunt will remain boring, flavorless shit where everything needs a 3+ to happen, etc.Why won't the AoS community attempt to fix it And not in some pussy footed 'well just give this army 300 extra points' bullshit.
>go to /wfg/ thread>discussion about Morghur's lore at the end of AoS>go to /aosg/ thread>discussion about TOW comp systems??????????
>>97543869It’s just one guy
>>97543869truly we are more similar then we are different all men are brothers under the cruel yoke of GW
>>97543865Well, honestly for IDK it's because they don't have the models. That's what I want to change about the army, I think Roman elves + monsters from the sea has such a huge potential for variety of units but GW is not interested in releasing them. And I don't give a fuck about Stormcast.
>>97543793I'm aware manticore comes from persian, is manti or marti or whatever the word is an explictely gendered word or can it also be neutral like man was or could be (e.g. mankind)? We're in the deep of it now.>>97543865>And TOW isn't 'abandoned' in any senseI wasn't talking about tow as a whole obviously, just specifically the legacy factions which gw said they'd explictely not touch (although I believe they actually have to dunk on skaven some more lol).No idea what the german comp thing is so I can't comment on that, does it have any widespread support?I think aos' issues right now aren't really that certain armies are under or over performing, it's just that certain armies are boring as fuck in their design. Again, I don't know how radical that germancomp thing is, but fixing flavour sounds like it needs a much more heavy handed approach than """simply""" balancing certain factions to be more or less powerful, if that makes sense.I gotta say it does suck how gw's balancing is limited to some faq's and points changes in aos. Like I get why, battletomes are already less and less profitable in the digital age, and if the warscrolls contained within are prone to changes it would make it even more so.Kind of unrelated to the larger discussion but if gw were to sell cheaper "battletomes" more focused on fluff and painting and background and whatever and cut out all the rules stuff I'd be more tempted to pick up some desu. Kind of like a reverse of what they're already doing with the smaller game-only mini battletome thingies.
>>97543869>>97543883the only thing the GW fears is this
>>97544042I wonder how many years it will be before the studio decides to do a 180 on CoS being mudcore. If it ever happens.
>>97544090sylvaneth will get high fantasy human knights before that happens. Along with rootkings.
>>97544092I would be displeased but unsurprised.
>>97544090In 6 months when they'll get a giant robot
Can any kind soul share the blighted wilds book?
>>97544175Here ya gogofile io/d/mx5WvY
>>97543740I know this is bait but in my view a game that is constantly being patch worked and """"""""fixed"""""""" by the community is more representative of a poorly designed game rather than some rugged community lol. As customers, it isnt our job to fix the game or balance it, that is fkn gw's job. If the rules are poor for a long time perhaps just invest into a new game instead, the tow community patch working the game themselves is a refusal to interact with anything non-gw. They are the ultimate slop consumers. Also id personally hate to play against anyone using renegade rules, because if theyre strong, it just feels like a fake game. May as well just role play a battle
>>97544241>They are the ultimate slop consumers.That would be people who eat the official game as it is without even considering fixes to its flawsdo you think aos is perfect?
>>97544090They're getting a cogfort sooner rather than later, but their current aesthetic is staying. What would a non-mudcore CoS even look like, something like the silver tower warpriest?>>97544241>Also id personally hate to play against anyone using renegade rules, because if theyre strong, it just feels like a fake game. May as well just role play a battleEh no different than playing strong gw rules is it, it's just pre-agreed rules. I don't really understand that.
>>97544258>do you think aos is perfect?obviously not, i am simply a 'rules as written' type person
>>97544281>obviously not, i am simply a 'rules as written' type personso you are the ultimate slop consumer in denial
>>97544294Anon is playing a game who's rules he deamed "good enough". ToW community openly admited the rules aren't "good enough" for them, yet they still play it like alcoholics dieing form liver failure
>>97544314>those guys seeing a problem and fixing it before continuing with what they like is bad>me seeing a problem and doing nothing is good actually because I close my eyes and say it's not that bad again, ultimate slop consumer
>>97544354Keep doing unpaid labour for GW instead fo jsut switching to somethign that's good.I bet you still defend Star Wars Sequels just to keep wearing C3PO merch
>>97544381>instead fo jsut switching to somethign that's good.like rebalanced rules someone else brewed and others approved on?
>>97544354>game is shit>dont worry gw!!!! we'll fix the game for you like good consumers !!!! wouldnt want us to play a different game now would wethe lot of a slop TOWdlerbtw having certain armies be """"""balanced"""""""" by taking hundreds of extra points is the most embarrassing shit ever. no wonder the game is dying
>>97542930I wonder if, given the core idea behind NH comes from Spain, the floral theam is connected to Andalusia's Islamic art that prohibits use of humans and animals, resulting in elaborate plant motifs you can still observ today in the remains of the Moors
>>97544195>gofile io/d/mx5WvYThank you kind anon.
>>97544381I gotta side with the tow baiter on this one I don't really know what you're mad about, if you like fantasy using fantasy rules slightly improved and agreed upon by the community seems like a perfectly reasonable course. Unless you're just taking the guy for a spin (based) idk what you're trying to argue.>>97544446mhm, I don't know if it's directly meant to be some dia de los muertos thing, might also simply come from the tradition of funerary flower wreaths which is rather common
>>97544446>given the core idea behind NH comes from Spainthat's not a given at all, they're just generic chain rattling, scythes wielding, death mourning, ghosts
>>97544042Go and choke on sigmarines cocks IG-diet
>>97544673>pic on the left is a conversion of Aos models
>>97544673The funniest shit is that 95% of the bits used in that diorama were sourced from other games.
>>97544690It's not.
>>97544241> Just play something elseThis is the ideal solution. I wish so bad that the community in my area wasn't just soulless GW slop hogs. But the brutal truth from thousands invested in other wargames is that if it's not 40k or a GW product, people don't stay at it.Further, I don't inherently dislike AoS. The models are incredible, and I even enjoy aspects of the fluff (not wasting money on BL slop though). I can see the potential in it but the business model means that so much of the rules are rushed and stay shitty after the writers give it their one crack. I want the community to stop being such roll over bitches and fucking take back the power here.
>>97544698Does it somehow stops CoS from being soulless fantasy copy of the IG with no personality?
>>97544703Anon. Please don’t make a fool of yourself.
>>97544690AoS and 40k.
>>9754471990% of the model is IG mini actually.
>>97544673>>97544703based retard
>>97544718Cos has remarkably little to do with the empire honestly. It's more of an imperial guard ripoff if anything.>>97544736Half the diorama is the idoneth deepmare anon, the other half is the lord solar's horse. Idk where the rider's helm and arms come from, that might actually be whfb.
>>97544718CoS are soulless and IG are soulless and Empire is soullessYou're supposed to play the actually interesting factions in these games like orcs or skaven or chaos warriors or vampires
>they are replying to bait
Look who appears in next month's White Dwarf
>>97544826Reacms
>>97544826The fact that the leaks about CoS moving even more in the monoracial direction appear to be panning out is very disheartening to me.
>>97544816>and Empire is soullessnope
>>97544810>Half the diorama is the idoneth deepmare anon,but it's not part of horseman.
>>97544826Are we getting like a travel diary of the realms? Sounds sweet>>97544836>monoracialNot so fast>>97544854Good thing we were talking about the diorama and not the horseman innit
>>97544826Is that the elf hating guy on chimera?
>>97544847Second hand embarrassment looking at this. I have no stake in this dick measuring contest when warhammers general asthetics for humanity is universally trash no matter the setting rendering everyone with chubs.I had hopes that Aos would adopt a more advanced aesthetic but we got husites instead.
>>97544879>have no stake in this dick measuring contestSure thing.
>>97544836Gotta cater to loudmouthed reddit parasites who never picked up the pure soul that was original cities of sigmar, you see.
>>97544895>Gotta cater to the majority as the extreme minority failed to buy enough models
>>97544895Who the fuck was asking for monoracial CoS on reddit? You can't just pretend reddit likes whatever opinion you don't like to add weight to your argument anon.
gibs now plz
>>97544918Redditoids were literally gushing their man panties constantly about new "diverse" shitties of sigmar models when they released.To this day they decry the original version as bad because "le new models is le better"
why are the skaven so antisemitic? and which tribe is the talmudic zealots?
>>97544951>To this day they decry the original version as bad because "le new models is le better"No they don't? Again, where does this idea come from that reddit wants elves and dorfs gone from CoS? You're leaping at shadows.
>>97544918I don't know about Reddit specificically but he's right that those types existed, we had them here. Mostly HFY types who saw the Empire as the Glorious Triumph of Man and working with xenos - I mean other races as being le cucked globohomo.
>>97544951Maybe you should stay on Reddit
>>97544877Yes
>>97544978I'm sure it's a relatively common opinion, I just think it's not a particularily "reddit" one. I personally prefer cosmopolitan cos because it was like the one original thing in an otherwise walmart leftover bin of the army that was pre-3e CoS.
>>97545004As someone who has a lot of Order armies, I kinda just loved all the coalition options. Having a small core of CoS models that I could mix and match with the rest of my collection was neat.
>>97544895Everyone asked for normal humans and gw delivered on normal humans.for elves and dwarfs there are multiple armies, all gw has to do is add the fucking coalition rules to represent the mixed forces of crusaders or city defenders but gw is holding those off because they want people to buy as many as possible of the normal humans first
>>97544826>>97544877This is pretty huge news honestly since it confirms Reformation wasn't just some dude making shit up and blurring ai images to pass off as leaks. I mean ig he could still have done that, but this proves he at least knew SOMETHING. So all of his CoS and ogre rumours just got a lot more credible.
>>97545236we already had practical confirmation from other posters or recent releases
>>97545255For some stuff like ogres, sure. But for example basically all the more detailed CoS leaks come from him, especially the blurry pics and stuff.
New nighthaunt models when?
>>97545348Next edition
>>97545348Angels of death for night haunt soon
>>97545392>Nighthaunt get space marinesdamn didn't know they were THAT creatively bankrupt
>>97545392>>97545411
>>97545392OBR kinda have that already in the form of the morghasts.
>>97545627I can't get over how werid Morghasts are as the only pre-ossiarch ossiarchs. Arkhan is just a guy who happens to be in the faction, so that's not wierd, but they are actively making new Morghasts
>>97545697tbf they were dead demigods that got revived. Idk if their lore has changed.
>>97545256Well, now that you're here we definitely have at least one naked screaming retard.
>>97544264>What would a non-mudcore CoS even look likeIn a perfect world where I had full creative control of the studio's development of CoS and was also a time traveler, the theme would be described as "chimeric." Hippogryphs, demigryphs, gryph-chargers, tauralons and whatever else are chimeric creatures. Sigmar's empire is multi-realm, multiracial, multicultural. A chimera in its own way. How do you convey that in models? I'd suggest an emphasis on texture variety and lots of animal bits. Texture variety as in they might wear cloth, leather, chainmail, plate, fur, scale, chitin, whatever. The point is to create an eclectic impression, if not within units then at least between them. And that's tied together with the animal bits. Every unit should have some animal pelts, big feathers, reptilian scale cloaks, or shaped armor featured in a prominent fashion. Again, this carries the chimeric animal theme, but it also taps into the setting of the Mortal Realms itself, as exotic fantasy creatures of all sorts might be exhibited in this manner. For fluff you can say that Free Peoples like to wear accessories made from fauna and flora from their homeland, displaying their heritage anywhere they go. Also it would make them look adventurous which is cool.Plain animals with "pure" forms are not allowed. Unless it's a mishmash of different critters, it doesn't get sculpted. Basic horses and hunting dogs are disqualified.In terms of armaments, first their armory need to be more ridiculous and stupid-looking, and it must lean into realmstone harder. That might mean the command corps doctor carries balloons of healing water to throw at allies. Or that there's a paratrooper unit who time their descent by making cyclestone turn gaseous. Or that rifles are fired with aetherquartz and optics glasswork instead of gunpowder and metal slugs. Combinations of realmstone types is also important here because, again, the chimeric theme is about smashing shit together to make new shit.
>>97545918This sounds insane but I do respect the vision and commitment to the idea
>>97545918this sounds better for stormcasts than for cities
order of the furrow...please gw.
>>97542892arent fire slayer a dead faction?
>>97544508Wasnt the ghost procession thing stated by GW to be taken from Spain?
I'm not playing against this tzeentch book, I'm just not gonna do it. Play something else.
>>97546191Why?
>>97545918>CITIES of Sigmar>chimeric animal themeEh...The theme itself has some legs though, just not for the urban folks. Try darkoath instead, and you can expand the decorations to also include thematic mutations. Or if you really want I guess a joint army made up of assorted order-aligned wilderness tribes to make a "counts as SoS"-army.Either way, any of these options (including your city slickers version) can be reality if you convert the minis for it.
>>97546205you'll see in a couple months.
>ARC ARCANA: THE REALMS REMARKABLE>From the Journal of Erasmus Zonn, Magister of Hysh>Few have the skill to traverse these perilous realms as a scholar. I consider the fact that I may do so, then, quite the boon. The more that I learn of our cosmos, the more I wonder. Even in this dark and fallow age, where so much has been lost, there is beauty, and that makes what still remains – what we still perceive, can still grasp – all the more striking to behold. Those busybodies in Settler's Gain think they dealt me a blow when they sent me from the city. Really, I ought to be thanking them. My scribbled recollections of but some of the curiosities I have encountered through my travels will have to suffice>THE AGLORAXI MAGOCRACY>The ruins of the Agloraxi's empire still loom large over Aqshy's deserts. Whatever one thinks of that authoritarian magocracy – and I have heard strong opinions from both sides of the divide – their achievements in the arts arcane were remarkable. Their research underpins much of our current understanding of emberstone, and the remnants of their Titanworks and Prismatikon solar-lens – while infested with bore-beetles, possibly created by the mages themselves – have endured long ages. Who knows what else might once have been found in the grand archives of Brightspear, or the lost city of Ahramentia?
>>97546245>SHADEGLASS>Created by the Katophrane sorcerers of Shadespire, shadeglass – a vitrified form of Shyishan realmstone – is the mystical material in which they intended to preserve their souls and deny Elder Bones his due. The inventive fate the Great Necromancer dealt their city is well known, but fewer appreciate that plenty of shadeglass had already been smuggled free in trade barques and caravan trails, now filling the black markets of the realms. Some know what it is, while others simply work it into fancy blades or arrowheads and think themselves well-to-do. I wonder how many of those relics still have screaming soul-traces within them...>THE GRANITE THRONE OF THE MEATFIST>I imagine I am amongst the few outsiders to lay eyes on the seat from where the Overtyrant of the Meatfist ogor tribe rules a vast swathe of Ghur. The Granite Throne is a single, immense lump of black rock that has strained under the weight of many warlords but never cracked. A curious oily sheen coats it, and in places it displays scorch-marks suggesting burns from some blazing, forceful descent. Coupled to this are motes of Azyrite energy that still cling to the rock, though they appear to be an especially raw and primal variance of that magic, unlike anything used by the God-King's folk or even the Seraphon. I propose then that the Granite Throne was in fact a meteorite cast from the highest and oldest cosmic vaults long before any of these stabilising forces tamed the heavens. I confess, something in its aura left me discomforted.
>>97546237The Lumineth book is definitely worse.
>>97546249>THE PECULIAR GORGWOOD HORSE>Ghur is, famously, home to all manner of fierce beasts. It is also home to beasty oddities beyond count. Consider the Gorwood horse. Native to that forest of the same name, this creature is, in fact, a form of plant life – it is an ambulatory and surprisingly vicious life-stage of the stels plant, rumoured to have been brought to the realm from obscure Ghyranite glades in the distant past. The Gorwood horse seeds slowly and smells foul, but that latter quality – along with its tough hide and thorny claws –means it has few predators, and so it is often used as a draft-beast by local folk.>THE ESOTERIC SCHOOLS OF THE IRONWELD>The Ironweld Arsenal that constructs our weapons and infrastructure is a behemothic institution, no less intricate than the Collegiate Arcane – which, I can assure you, is quite the claim. Its priorities are ever pulled to and fro by the conflicting interests of various fraternities and venerable orders of study, with every engineer, inventor and polymath no doubt believing their philosophy of scientific practice superior to all others. These Esoteric Schools, and there are many, are derived from the core pillars of Geometric Law laid down by the Great Maker and his Six Smiths, though it should be noted how many of the Arsenal's members are as secular as one can be in this world of incarnate deities. The Quadrate Flame are masters of combustion and enginecraft, the Bronze Cylindric cast the finest cannons, and then, of course, there is the ancient and secretive Rhombic Society, who pioneer investigations into mysterious magical power sources.
>>97546257>NOCHSEED>Quite the enigma, is Nochseed – an enlightened Hyshian city-state that against all expectation survived the wars of the Spirefall. Its position deep in the Xintilian deserts lends this endurance plausibility, and we must presume the enclosed masks and intricate martial forms adopted by its inhabitants offer some defence against corruption. Or must we? The closer one looks into its radiance, the more disquieting Nochseed becomes. It exports a peculiar intoxicant known as Dreamvint that, while quite pleasant, has been linked to disturbing dreams. Few are permitted within its walls, and those who have gained entry describe a consistent inability to fully ascertain their bearings either physically or socially – as if the streets, and their inhabitants, constantly reorder themselves to dislodge the senses. Then there are the nine Quintescent Luminaries, none of whom ever leave the inner sanctums of the College of Mirrors, but whose every pronouncement is heeded no matter how contradictory it may appear. Some even say that certain plazas and domes retain status of the High Bibliarch of the Sphiranx, he who condemned his people to serve the Changer of the Ways. I once requested an old scholarly acquaintance to ask some questions concerning Nochseed. Several days later, I was delivered a vial of crystallised blood and a strange stone cut in the shape of an eye. I have not seen my friend since.
>>97546260>SOROTH KOR, THE SILENT CITY>Even I cannot claim to have roamed the wastelands of the Eightpoints. Those I have encountered who profess to have braved those dangers, however, have related unsettling accounts of Soroth Kor. On the banks of the River Scourge, this silent metropolis lurks, its stone marked by faded star-glyphs and its streets swallowing the ruinous warbands who try and claim it. The industrial warrens of Narthol-How, the sealed Grand Library, a looming tower named the Heart of Silence – all are haunted by phenomena, messengers and echoes, with time running strangely and a void-like cold pervading. I have heard that some outside the Collegiate have dedicated themselves to reviving and cataloguing knowledge of Soroth Kor. I wish them all good fortune.>FRUITS OF THE SHADOW MARKETS>If a thing can be desired, then likely it can be found in the Market of Mists – the smuggler's bazaar that is the infamous pride of Misthåvn. That shipborne city is a place of shadow, but I confess, I have often enjoyed walking its yawning decks in suitable disguise and perusing the oddities found there. Of course, for the truly esoteric merchandise one must know whom to ask. I am aware of several captain-councillors who operate illicit trade in mystic narcotics that have spread through the black markets of our empire. Glatch Ink, which stains the veins black yet deepens one's connections to magic; Skiffer's Salve, a healing balm that induces a languid and euphoric listlessness; and of course Float, a powdery substance that briefly slackens the pull of gravity on the wielder. I have heard of more than one young student in Settler's Gain using the stuff to reach the high spires as part of their examinations. Not that I would have personal experience of this, you understand.
>>97546264>THE SPITE COURTS OF NEOS>Neos the Ever-Blooming is surely the most vibrant of Ghyran's Jade Kingdoms. I am fortunate to be in the good graces of High King Rhaeloth of Oakenbrow Glade, who allows me to explore and sate my curiositythere within reason and with his root-brethren's protection. Yet even I would not roam those glades without suitable offerings for the spites, who inhabit Neos in greater numbers than anywhere else in the Realm of Life. Curious creatures, spite – native nature spirits of a kind not dissimilar to the Gargoylians that follow us city-folk. Some, such as the Wardroth Beetles, are of titantic size, though many are far more diminutive and imp-like. Capricious and mischievous, spites appear to perceivethe realms quite unlike any mortal, and they act according to their own inscrutable whims and whimsies. I have heard that one of reclusive Seelie Lieges taught the Dove Maidens of Neos their form-shifting arts, so they might serve as heralds of the beloved Everqueen – if one believes in their existence at all, that is. I have also heard that it is through the perennially cruel wiles of the spits that settlers to Neos often vanish without trace. Some of the Kings and Queens of this fey folk are said to watch for the wicked Outcast spirits and their queen, Drycha – and given the strife that has afflicted Neos in the past, this we can well imagine.
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>>97546245>>97546249>>97546257>>97546260>>97546264>>97546269
>>97546273Skaven are doing pretty fuckign terrible here. Their hole is serounded and they just get beaten up from all sides
>>97546306first wave of a million.
>>97546313>t. Xerxes
>>97546155They've still got like a year before they're souped
>>97546249>>97546257>>97546260>>97546264>>97546269Do you have this part of the White Dwarf:>Legends of the World-that-Was>Where are they now? Grombrindal remembers some fellow survivors of the End Times.
>>97546372I only grabbed the text from here. I just extract the text from screengrabs and then manually fill in whatever was illegible to the machine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HBp73ydZgw
She's cute.
>>97546452That's a guy
>>97546213The Ankh-Morporkh city watch has werewolf cops and baby dragon flamethrowers. If CoS can't simulate that then it's a bust.
>>97546495>werewolf copsCringe>baby dragon flamethrowersBased
>40k reintroduced dramatic "build your own character" rules in MaelstromWhat are the Age of Sigmar rules on just taking an Ogor Lord and putting him on a mammoth or something.
>>97546637Path to Glory
>>97546637We got to make custom regiments and terrain with blighted wilds. I’m surprised though, has crusade never had custom shit ever?
>>97546637Bro you anvil of apotheosis?
>>97546646All wargear was removed at the beginning of 10th for a genericized loadout in order to simplify the 40k for retards.
>>97546702I've heard about that, but surely 40k has had a build your own hero thing like this before?
>>97546702Oh. That’s retarded. I don’t necessarily want wargear to come back but I wouldn’t mind some abilities or stuff to be purchasable for units in Aos. 40k though, it absolutely needs wargear.
>>97546720It was standard in almost every edition prior to this one through war gear and traits and other upgrade options that don't exist in 10th edition.
Post what your working on. How do you guys make terrain more thematic to /yourdudes/>sylvaneth players need not respond
>>97546245>>97546249>>97546257>>97546260>>97546264>>97546269Based lore poster. Thank you.
>>97546260>>97546264>Nochseed>Soroth KorIt's been a minute since I saw GW do writeups on fluff locations from 1e Warcry. Nice.
>>97546787Sadly not working too much on AOS stuff since I have some new mecha stuff to work on rn, but if I were to try and make some terrain for my tzeentch dudes....I guess a mutated eye on a huge skull?
>>97546155Nah all good (4e), souped (5e), squatted (6e)
>>97546269>I have heard that one of reclusive Seelie Lieges taught the Dove Maidens of Neos their form-shifting arts
>>97544446No, it's just a continuation of the Black Roses of Morr from WHFB. Don't go overthinking it, it's not complicated.
>>97547046There is zero correlation between the two.
>>97547052same origin point of Memento Mori art as the basis for their design
>>97546260>here's some lore about models you can't buy anymorethanks james
>>97547180Put your money where your mouth is. Buy the Mindstealer Sphiranx. Buy it nine times. Do it for Big Bird.
>>97546269JAMES WORKSHOP!GIVE ME SPITE UNITS FOR SYLVANETH AND THAT ANON'S >>97544923 LIFE IS YOURS!
>>97546264>Misthåvn narcoticsSo much has been lost since 2e.
>>97545348New soulblight models when?
>>97546637>does not see the Anvil of Apotheosis link in the OP every single thread
>>97543614I just want a chapter where Tahlia gets her ass stretched
>>97547470I want a POV chapter about Morathi stretching my ass
>>97543865I don't trust any kind of comp. There is always some bias in it.
>>97543351Yes, only suggestion I'd make is that Indiana Jones would look a spanish conquistador and one expansions would have you go up the now undead Anorio Ven Talax and his crew.
>>97547185NTA but mine came in today. I'm highly doubt it'll ever get put in the tzeentch tome where it belongs but regardless, great model. Anyone have paint scheme suggestions. I don't hate the default, but I was thinking about doing an alternate scheme that wasn't pink.
>>97546927Nochseed is the cypher lord place, I remember that, but what the fuck is soroth kor?>>97548096Maybe something white and gold? Alternatively could try purple stripes or something weird if you want to emphasize the tzeentchiness.
This warband idea came to me in a dream. Depending on how you played you could make one of them the leader and it gave differently flavoured buffs to the rest of the team. I don't even know if that would work, I don't play underworlds.Anyhow, with pestigors returning it probably won't be too long until we see khorngors make their way to age of sigmar too. How would (you) like to see them designed? I'm personally not the biggest fan of the doghead they gave em in bloodbowl, but maybe that's just a matter of execution.
>>97548421sounds like a warcry campaign to me.
>>97548421I think gw only did tzaangors right, especially with the split being made between tow and aos establishing that the tzeentchian beastmen in the former don't have the avian features the tow marked beastmen should look like normal gors, just branded, while the aos marked beastmen should have different bestial features >tzeentch: beaked face>khorne: frilled hound>nurgle: rhino beetle>slaanesh: seeker facebut they already fucked up nurgors and slaangors so I can't expect them to do the right thing with khornogors now
>>97548434>slaanesh: seeker faceWhy the fuck would you have a demon-gor?
>>97548452beats giving them fish faces or snake faces
>>97548434>>97548455I never liked the frills on all the flesh-hound related stuff, I'd prefer if they left that of.I'd be down with snakemen for slaanesh honestly. Insectoid nurgle sounds cool in theory but I think they'd have to also alter the bodyplan of the beastmen too for that to work or it would just look like somebody's shitty kitbash.
>>97548480the ideal would be using fuzz/hair to join better the carapace parts with the fleshy parts
>>97548455You could have done a cat to conrast with Khrone's dog
>>97548510You know what that doesn't look half bad>>97548547>slaaneshi catgirlsMaybe best if we don't open that particular can of worms
>>97548547I dunno, cats have a rather short snout, they end up feeling more human-like than beast-like, and the slaaneshi range doesn't have feline cues.Although the sphiranx can definitely read as slaaneshi, but again, that's a beast that has to appear as having a human-like intelligence, so the cat face works fine, rather than a humanoid that has to look bestial.
>>97543243The last Warhammer quest game was shit, I don't know why I would want to play a shitter gloomhaven with 99% less content, gameplay, or strategy, it definitely doesn't deserve to be called a Warhammer quest game.
>>97548677do you think people buy the modern warhammer quest boxes for the games?
>>97546249> Granite throne is the ossified heart of the Great Maw cast through space after the destruction of the Old World
>>97548694the great maw's meteor was made of warpstone once
>>97548677The last 3 warhammer quests have all acted as heralds of wider releases for the associated baddie factions, as well as providing some cool new character minis for whatever factions happen to be part of the hero lineup. Although that has sadly been 95% CoS for the last two.Not counting SoHH because that was all just a repackaging.
>>97548421Cute Do we know amything about upcoming UW stuff? The obr one kind of came out of nowhere. I could see lumineth getting their second warband after all this time, and probably a CoS one when their new stuff gets revealed. They still don't have a generic warband after all.
>>97548854The rumour is that the next UW warband will be made out of aelves
>>97548096>Anyone have paint scheme suggestions.I intend to paint mine in a Lumineth-like scheme (basically just like Celennar), with the face painted as a porcelain or metal mask, except for the third eye.
>>97548434>nurgle: rhino beetleStupid af random shit Nurgle beastmen should be flies or maggots if anything
>>97548421A warband made up of gors. A Gorband, if you will.
>>97546372>Legends of the World-that-Was>Fifty years of Games Workshop might seem like a long time, but it's barely a blink in the lifespan of the legendary Grombrindal. Let us hear from him regarding some of the heroic and not-so-heroic figures who have also endured from the Old World to the new.>Ah, you'd like to know of the World-that-Was, would you, stranger? You mortals will never stop asking me of those days, and it's my curse and my blessing to remember them all too well. I'm old, you see. Older than the realms themselves. It's not just blood that runs in my veins, but every tale, myth and legend ever told. I can recall them all.>No, I'm not the only soul who escaped the End Times. There are others, besides the gods of Sigmar's Pantheon and that wretched tyrant Nagash – heroes and villains who may lack divine power, but who nonetheless endured the unimaginable and emerged with their souls mostly intact.>The names that follow stand foremost in my mind. Some of them are honourable warriors who earned their chance at a new life through bold deeds. Others I'd gladly sink my axe into if given half the chance. But fair or foul, their titles and acts are etched into the very bedrock of history. The truth is, young one, I carry these stories with me everywhere I go.
>>97548895but flies and maggots are defined more by their mean of locomotion than their head, cockroaches similarly don't have very peculiar featuresa horned beetle of some sort hits the goals
>>97548912>GOTREK THE SLAYER>Gotrek Gurnisson. The duardin who stared the apocalypse in the face and didn't blink. If Grimnir ever raised a doughtier or more stone-headed warrior, I'd dread to meet them. Back in the Old World, this one was a journeying monster-hunter, a former engineer who took the slayer oath after his clan was wiped out to the last. Accompanied by a long-suffering human bard named Felix, he'd travel across the lands, desperate to meet a worthy end in battle against any foe who'd fought him. Trouble was, he was too good with an axe – and a damn sight too lucky – to ever grasp the fate he sought. Gotrek's exploits were chronicled in all manner of dusty tomes and lurid page-turners back in the day. I think I even have a few right here in my backpack.>It turns out even a cosmic calamity couldn't end the stubborn wazzok. How did he survive the death of the World-that-Was? Well, that cataclysm sent him careening into the Realm of Chaos, and even I cannot say how long he wandered alone through that roiling hellscape. It would have felt like an eternity to Gotrek, to be sure, but at last, he hauled himself out of a cursed realmgate and into the new reality, bold as a cave squig and twice as ugly.>Imagine my shock when I heard tales of a foul-tempered duardin warrior calling himself Gotrek roaming the realms, hewing monsters in twain and taking thaggoraki and grotling heads by the score. Intrigued, I made it my business to meet Gotrek face to face, in the guise of an old whitebeard named Wittrom. Wasn't much of a surprise to find out he's still a damned fool and a hot-head. No wonder the warrior sons of Grimnir have taken such a liking to him. Yet there's a decent soul there, under all that bluster. Something tells me Gotrek Gurnisson has a part to play yet in the fate of duardinkind.
>>97548915>THANQUOL AND BONERIPPER>You can hardly mention the legends of Gotrek Gurnisson without sparing a word for his self-proclaimed nemesis, a wretched thaggoraki Grey Seer who calls himself Thanquol. Although to be honest, I'm not sure Gotrek himself even knows the ratling's name. Clever little wretch, is Thanquol. Too clever for his own good, usually. I can never tell whether he's the Great Horned Rat's favourite servant or the thorniest spike in his backside, and I doubt the vermin god himself quite knows for certain. All I can say is that at the moment the World-that-Was perished, Thanquol was languishing in some torture cage after failing the Horned Rat for the hundredth time. But he gnawed his way loose and managed to escape back to reality, taking with him his Rat Ogor Boneripper – a colossal mass of flesh and weaponry that has been destroyed and stitched together countless times over the centuries. Somehow still alive, the Grey Seer has resumed his meddling and mischief-making, to the detriment of all living beings. When the cosmos finally crumbles to ash and all stories end, this krummuz will still somehow be alive, rooting through the ashes – you mark my words.
>>97548919>THE VAMPIRE MORTARCHS>I'd like to say it was only worthy souls that made it through the fiery death of the Old World and into these Mortal Realms, but that'd brand me a liar. Dark deeds echo through the ages just as loudly as heroic acts, after all. It turns my stomach to think of that blood-sucking fiend Mannfred von Carstein still staining the air with his presence, when so many of my hardy kinfolk perished without glory or regard. Then there's Neferata, another schemer and betrayer that Nagash dragged up from the cold earth to serve him in eternity. They call themselves Mortarchs now, these two, but they're nothing but the same pair of black-hearted zanguzaz they always were.>That perfidious wretch von Carstein's never sworn an oath he hasn't broken. Bitter and cruel, he thinks the world owes him fealty, and he'd rather burn it all to ashes than see his ambitions denied. He once claimed himself a vampire emperor in the days of the World-that-Was, and he came damned close to getting his wish, too. Indeed, you could argue it was von Carstein who did more than anyone – bar the Three-Eyed King – to bring about the death of the Old World. He had his chance to defy Chaos, and instead he turned his cloak and slew the very folk trying to prevent disaster. In doing so, he doomed us all. The bloodsucker's learned nothing from his sins, by all accounts. It gives me some comfort to know that he chafes under Nagash's bony thumb, condemned to while away his immortality in Carstinia, an underworld that's no more than a mocking echo of the old baronies he used to rule over. But you'd be a fool to think his story ends here.
>>97548924>Queen Neferata's older by far than even von Carstein. Even by my standards, she's a venerable one, though you'd not know it to look upon her. She's the first amongst vampires, the progenitor of the Soulblight curse. It was she who meddled in dark rituals devised by Nagash, seeking immortality and finding it in the most terrible way you can imagine. These days, she's the undisputed master of Nulahmia, a rat's nest of bloodsuckers, wight liege-lords and corpse-traders perched on the edge of the Shyish Nadir. Neferata's as ambitious as von Carstein but a sight more patient – and that's what makes her especially dangerous. She's got spies in every city in the realms, and kings and gods alike must dance to her tune.>The two Mortarchs despise each other, of course. Good thing too, because the last thing the realms need is von Carstein's ambition and Neferata's cunning aligned in common cause.
>>97548929>CHAMPIONS OF CHAOS>The filthy sorcery of Chaos obeys no laws or logic, and so it's little surprise that some of the vilest villains of the World-that-Was still plague the realms to this day. The Ruinous Powers like to keep their favourite servants around, remaking them as daemonic echoes of their former selves. Take Sigvald the Magnificent, that black-hearted popinjay. Once, he was heir to a fearsome tribe of barbarians who worshipped fell powers, until his own people disowned him for his vile proclivities. He spent his life indulging in every sin you can think of – and many you wouldn't want to. That saw the Dark Prince Slaanesh take a liking to him, and sure enough, the god of vice and indulgence made Sigvald one of his champions. The fiend met what you might call an... ignominious end during the End Times, at the hands of a troggoth king. But eventually, Slaanesh gave his repugnant soul a new body and sent him out into the world of mortals to resume his endless bacchanal.>Festus the Leechlord is another vile specimen and all the worse because once a truly selfless umgi – a physicker and alchemist who sought to cure the World-that-Was of all its ills. Needless to say, the Plague God Nurgle took a dim view of that. He turned Festus into a waddling abomination, whose flesh bulged with disease and whose soul was black as spoiled blood. Yes, the Leechlord was responsible for all manner of horrors during the End Times, so he was, until no less a being than the vampire Vlad von Carstein put a stake through him – that's an irony worthy of a campfire tale, eh? Anyway, Nurgle was pleased with his servant's work, and so he squirreled away Festus's rotten soul until he could unleash it on mortalkind once more.
>>97548931>STORMCAST ETERNALS>The great human empire of the World-that-Was met its end during the End Times, which must have come as quite the shock to its blowhard rulers. They were so convinced that the God-King had chosen them for a special destiny. Ah, listen to me grumble. Here's the truth: they fought well, those umgi, even as they faced ther doom. Some showed a stubbornness that would have made the doughtiest sons and daughters of Grungni proud. But in the end, they fell, as did we all. The souls of most were snuffed out like candles in a hurricane. Only a few of the most potent spirits endured, clinging to the magical motes that would come to form the Mortal Realms.>It was from these scattered and fragmented essences that Sigmar the God-King forged some of the first Stormcast Eternals. Now, this wasn't true resurrection. We're talking mere fragments of the past, withered and worn over many centuries. Most of these Reforged souls remember little of their past lives, and they've taken on new names and identities. Yet, they retain something of their former glory. Most famous of this first generation of Azyr's champions is the Celestant-Prime. Even I can't tell you his true identity for certain, though I've got my suspicions. All that I know is that he was fashioned from the soul of humanity's greatest living defender at the time of the Old World's destruction, a regal leader of men who displayed the umgi's greatest virtues at their darkest hour.
fuck me they're actually retconning prime into either franz or valten
>>97548936>>97548947>franzcringe>valtenEh sure whatever I'll allow it. Does he actually even exist in the end times timeline or is he storm of chaos only?
>>97548947More like Felix
>>97548958>timeline Storm of Chaos is part of the official timeline and the End Times just continues his narrative.
>>97548811god I am so sick and tired of heralds. Kurnothi have had so many fucking heralds. I just want Kurnothi already!They clearly have the designs finalized, Sylvaneth desperately need play options that aren't just tree tricks, the world is ready!
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>>97548978lore youtubers say otherwise so ill trust their judgment
>>97548965Now that would be a twist
>>97548995I can't think of Franz or Valtrn being relevant to AoS but Gotrek exists
>>97549004I mean Felix being prime and not jsut a random sce like everyone alrady guessed
>>97548965felix was never a leader of any sort
>>97549027Yeah the description doesn't fit Felix at all. Even Valten is a huge stretch, it's basically 100% Franz.
>>97548958>Does he actually even exist in the end times timelineyes, he did all the same things that he did in storm of chaos, except instead of dying to a skaven assassin he died to a skaven verminlord assassinhe should have been the reincarnation of sigmar, but the end times fucked up sideways so technically we're stuck with sigmar having possessed karl upon death and valten having died as a red herring even though he's arguably the closest thing fantasy had to aos sigmar or to a stormcast
>yfw it's Louen Leoncoeur
>>97548936Celestant prime confirmed for getting an update, I guess, no other reason for them to change his fluff to include him in this list when they could have mentioned the two sacrosanct wizards.
>>97549057This is just his old fluff.
>>97549053can't be, grombrindal is talking about the empire and sigmar specificallybretonnians had a different deity
>>97549059Oh wait, that's jsut the retarded mistake ctr+C ctr+V to white dwarf? It's irrelevant then
>>97549044>so technically we're stuck with sigmar having possessed karl upon death...so is siggy's body in aos still technically kf's?>>97549057>>97549059I think he was referenced as a "great king of men" or some shit in his previous life, not necessarily one from the whfb days although that's what people have always speculated he was anyway.I gotta say these kind of cameos are kind of lame imo.
>>97549059his old fluff was that he was a king of the age of myth, not of the world that waseither whoever wrote the article fell for this popular misconception about him, because it's been a popular misconception since his reveal, or they have been working on him and his fluff behind the scenes, and I tend to lean on the latter because the fluff articles on white dwarfs rarely make this kind of mistakes and if they weren't being written by someone in the know about incoming stuff we wouldn't get the upcoming cos special character name dropped casually like this >>97546245 >Erasmus Zonn
>>97549078Hewas refered to as an age of myth era king. Then 1 guy changed it, i don't remember where,but it was probably jsut writen by a retard who couldn't be bothered to read exisitng material for the thing he had to chat gpt a paragraph about
>>97549027Read the books? He's a leader of men by the End Times with stories told of his deeds killing dragons.
>>97549044Nah, the original Mordheim story of Sigmar reincarnated as a woman was more interesting
>>97542892Hey I searched online and couldn’t find an answer so I gotta ask here.What specific paints were used for the sand basing texture on the age of sigmar freeguild bases like pic related?
>>97549078>...so is siggy's body in aos still technically kf's?ehh...the short answer is nothe long answer is that when karl franz died in the end times against the nurgle forces at the siege of altdorf, the wind of azyr, finally free from the vortex of ulthuan due to the elves' own shenanigans, zapped around searching for a host, like the other winds, and azyr went straight to karl franz, or rather it went straight to ghal maraz, because turns out sigmar was trapped in the wind of heaven all along since his disappearence, and the hammer has some magical gimmick that ties all the essences of the emperors that have wielded it over the generations so in the end times it's arguably sigmar inside karl's body, together with the souls of all other emperors of the empirebut then the world blew up and everything kinda lost its physicality and then the magical stuff rearranged itself into a new physical state, especially the incarnates who grew to full blown godhoodso I'd describe sigmar's body in aos as not being karl's but rather sigmar's in the sense that he had to coalesce himself back into a physical state from a metaphysical one, like a demon would have to make himself a body for interacting with the physical world in a way (in one novel he says he forgets that he's meant to leave footprints in the snow, for example, it's not an automatic or natural thing for gods to limit themselves to a simpler vessel instead of being intangible vortex of energies that are one and the same with a realm)is karl franz's and the other emperors' souls still inside sigmar? we don't knowmaybe they are in the hammer and that could be how they justified the celestant prime waking up and becoming active only once ghal maraz was found and given to him, when the previous excuse was that the prime is such a strong being that he needed a power source like ghal maraz
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>>97549098I think it'd be fine with a female guise of Sigmar. There's more than a little inspiration from Norse mythology baked into him already, so I don't think it'd be breaking theme to have an anecdote or tall tale about Sigmar wearing skirts for a bit.
I'm hoping a kindly Soulblight player can help me with something. How long is the actual carriage part of the black coach? from the back of the back wheels to the front of the front wheels, what's that distance?
>>97549141oh yeah I forgot about the little gimmick with ghal maraz being a fake and siggy being trapped in the real one. Is that all end times stuff too or does it have its origins in some rpg or something?
>>975491849cm
>>97549141The lore of AoS and the End Times explicitly has Sigmar hanging onto the carcass of the planet, hurtling through space until space dragon found him.It is still Karl Franzs body.
OBR when
>>97549204the hammer being fake is a rpg plotline, but that never factored into the rulebooks and the end timesthe end times assumes the hammer franz is wielding is the real one and that sigmar got somehow trapped into the vortex when he had his journey east after abdicating the thronewhether the rpg plotline is noncanon or it's assumed to happen before the end times so that by then karl franz is wielding the real hammer is unclear to me, but it hardly matters
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>>97549226>The lore of AoS and the End Times explicitly has Sigmar hanging onto the carcass of the planetthat doesn't contradict what I said
>>97549271Is this new from tga?
>>97549271Hell yeah, /aosg/ leaks.
>>97549278doesn't look like it, they're engrossed in other discussions, they'll probably start looking this way now, so be quick and post some fake rumors to muddy the waters
>>97549271Doesn't even look like GW sculpts
>>97549278Someone just posted it on tga from here lol. I see you mister dingo.>>97549271Mhm, could just be some ai image put through a million filters to make it impossible for us to tell. I wouldn't mind a khazalid aesthetic like this though. I like the scale pattern gambeson or whatever the fuck that's supposed to be.
>>97549321They do resemble the middle earth dwarves a bit. It looks like they’re ditching the more rustic feel dwarves in fantasy had entirely. Which I don’t mind. I just want to see the weapons.
>>97549343>the middle earth dwarvessame impression, it must be the crossed helmets
>>97549321>>97549343The shields look a bit weird to me. A bit too small and thick. Also it looks like it was painted with very high contrast, like it's nmm. Which is not something gw really does for their showcase minis. Could just be all the filters though. The bodyplan does remind me of kharadron a lot.>>97549271Show us some more pics then
>>97549343I mean it's too rounded, doens't fit GW's "artstyle". Maybe because it's too forgiving for 3D printers and GW doesn't want it, or their molds are jsut built different, but GW doesn't make shapes like this
>>97549361>Which is not something gw really does for their showcase ministhey did put an unconventional effort on the nurgle models recently though
Anyone have the link to the Blighted Wilds scans that were posted a few threads ago?
>>97549271I can tell it's real because there's a female dwarf right there in the middle
>>97549271This is a Warcrow miniature
>>97549405lmao
>>97549405Yep, knew it didn't look like GW
>>97549405Well lol. Thank goodness though, wasn’t really a fan of it 100%. Was hoping for more vulatrix motifs.
>>97549397>>97544195
>>97549271>>97549405it was a bit too early to start having photos of the dwarfs, we have cities, skaven, gargants, and more to go over before we get to the dwarfs
>>97549405Fucking knew it>>97549452>
im looking for an army which is a polar opposite of current STD range so:>non elite army>can project force/damage on greater range, not only melee>have more gimmics than "give a buff once a turn"
>>97549521Gitz
>>97549521So a gimicky shooting army?KO are kinda elite, cities with all the gun guys and canons maybe?
>>97549521lumineth, skaven, I guess cities?
>>97549521Tzeentch.
>>97549521CoS for a non elite shooting army with more than a single gimmick seems like the best fit. Skaven as the runner ups.
>>97549275You are saying Sigmar isn't still using Karl Franz body. He is.Every other incarnate may be some weird Wind of Magic resurrection, Sigmar isn't
>>97549271LA EPIC FAKE LEAKwhy do people do this
>>97549521Your last requirement removes everything but LRL and Tzneetch from contention
>>97549599I'm saying sigmar is treated like all other incarnates, his body isn't special, he still had to "craft" it like the others did, or he wouldn't have had that part in the novel where he forgets to leave footprints behind the part of the end times I posted even goes to call him the "glowing essence of what had once been a man"
>>97549601no idea
>>97549722>skryre has tech>but also moulder has tech>but also skaven has techwhat way can they even implement the technology into pestilens? fart gun? deathvax syringes?
>>97546000SCE are a whole different thing. I don't know if I'd really like to change anything so much as I'd just like to iterate and extrapolate from what's already there. All the chambers and conclaves have some symbols associated with them, there are various types of armor associated with the conclaves, there are beasties associated with the different chambers, there are beast-marks for individuals, there's a ubiquitous shape language informed by celestial motifs (comets, suns, lightning bolts) and of course hammers galore. I think most of what I come up with for SCE is just about combining these elements in new ways or shifting emphasis between them, not really introducing anything new and interesting.
>>97549722What's the difference between gutter and night runners again?Also this sounds more like a warcry warband than a normal unit honestly. Could it be something recycled?
>>97549790night runners are basic, gutter runners are elite
>>97549722Those gutter runners are 100% a recycled eshin warband right? That's an awful amount of weapon variety for a normal 10 man unit. It even comes with two extra little pets.Bad news for warcry then, because if they're bringing it out as a spearhead release it's deader than dead.
>>97549722Also this corroborates an earlier french leak concerning night and gutter runners, so the nightrunner part is probably mostly true too. Nothing extraordinary though.
GW should have made monogod gors more diverse in apperance. MULTIPLE heads for each type.Khorngors for example could have hounds or shark heads (Khorne is worshipped as great red shark in 4ed tome). Piranha fish? Slaangors with bull, snake or maybe even hummingbird heads (saw years ago someone explore the last concept, looked fucking awesome). Pestigors could, in addition to what they have now, have mosquito, fly and worm heads. Dunno for Tzeentch, maybe fish heads, since both fishes and birds embody change due to ocean/air movement.But nope, GW has been "ordering" and dumbing down Chaos in AoS and 40k like crazy.
>>97549950khornes more associated with scorpions and spiders than he ever was with sharks or deep sea creatures in general.
>>97549950They are saving the cool crunchyness for the grogs in TOW that play Beastmen. They are the protagonists there.
>>97549722>>97549939Damn, GW is really giving Skaven a tons of love. Boole said that even Pestilens will get their own wave. While we Tzeentch fans are stuck with nothing.
>>97549950that's expecting too much work for the niche spinoff units of a niche spin off faction that didn't even survive the test of time.
I genuinely think snakes and dragons should be more associated with tzeentch than slaanesh. At the very least they should share it.
>>97550000Why are snakes slaaneshi again. Because of the association with temptation due to the garden of eden story or is there more to it?Also why the fuck random birds for tzeentch? Because of odin?
>>97550034>Why are snakes slaaneshi again
>>97550034tzeentch is bird because of the lord of change, the lord of change is bird because of the vrok, the vrok is bird because dnd had to make types of demons out of nothing and sometimes medieval demons were depicted with beaks, dante's inferno had harpies, and birds have been associated as demonic/angelic messengers at various times due to their ability to fly, and sometimes nocturnal eeriness
Talk me into or out of buying the tzeentch battleforce. First aos army, models look sick, I dig how colourful I can paint everything and I can get it for £90. I haven't played Warhammer in probably 10 years so I don't know what I'm getting into rules-wise, but I don't really care. 99% of the models in that box are cool to me
>>97550082You will eventually need/tzaangor.Are you prepared to paint 40 of them?How about 6 to 12 enlightened on discs?Regardless if you like the models just do it fag
>>97550082demons will likely get refreshed in the next 5 years.
>>97550093LMAO
>>97550091I do not like Tzaangor, nor do I enjoy the discs. I was envisioning a full acoylte demon spam army>>97550093I'll probably still have this battleforce in the box at that time so it's all good
>>97550093TOP KEKKEKYou are not getting shit, Tzeentchbros.
>>97550103I mean it is time for a demon refresh. They're used in 4 game systems (40k, AoS, HH, TOW). It'll happen in one of them
>>97549950nah we need more proper demons, not gors. Tzaangors are already very divisive, the other gods don't need them pushed either. >>97550129>HHI didn't even realize until recently that demons had rules in HH. Who the fuck plays demons in the game hyperfocused around the imperium civil war?
>>97550157>Who the fuck plays demons in the game hyperfocused around the imperium civil war?Maybe the half of the civil war that decided to worship demons?
>>97550157>Who the fuck plays demons in the game hyperfocused around the imperium civil war?Because its increasingly become less about "Imperium civil war" and more about "let's play 40k from back when 40k had good rules"
>>97550082The "demon refresh immenent" people are coping, maybe two of the units in that box are getting any kind of refresh in the next few years. Prior to the battle tome update, it was all you really needed. The new battletome made horrors not quite as strong as before but if running demons will still be fine. You might end up wanting more mortals, but that's because everything in the new battletome is actually useful now. The discount is decent and if you want to run demons there's no reason not to. It also lets you run the new army of renown that lets you keep cheater dice, if your interested in that. I wish this box had come out 6 months ago so I didn't have to waste time buying everything second hand instead of scooping two of these for basically the same price.
>>97550168yeah I mean sure, demons should be available as units in the traitor legions army's, I mean who the fuck is running a demon only list?
>>97550184I just want to paint some funky colours, and I like the demons a lot. I think I'll order this box and the curseling guy now because he looks cool too
>>97549214and that's 90mm?OK, it won't work for what I want. You saved me like 150 bucks. Thanks!
>>97550129>They're used in 4 game systems >tow: pdf, not present in the narrative at all, chaos doesn't even know the gods>hh: pdf, only present in their ruinstorm version awaiting a separate range>40k: pdf, marines can only take a few of them in their shittiest detachments
>>97550304They're still used and have rules.
>>97549740Why would they do that they have that whole 13 plagues angle to work with
>>97549955I vaguely recall Khorne being worshipped in the form of a kraken or shark in one of the novels I read years ago
>>97550405Both actually.>>97550399>>97549740Deathvax syringes sounds cool. Pestilens FOREVER!PRAISE THE GREAT HORNED RAT
>>97549950>>97550405Piranha shark khorne beastmen is some 1st edition retarded but sovl idea
How strong are tzaangors in Age of Tigmar?
>>97550780honestly they were stronger in the index but with the new battletome they are just usable, mostly because horrors suck now, but they're just alright.
>>97550780Total tzaangor victoryYeah they're pretty good usually on this side of the aisle
>>97550780They will be insane in the new Tzeentch book The new book is fucking insane
>>97550815>>97550924>>97550927All contradictory answers, just as planned
>>97551084>All according to The Great Plan
Garrek's Reavers are such cool minis.
>>97551237Not really
Some (possibly) stupid questions where i feel like I've missed some narrative. I've started getting into AoS lore, read a couple of 4th edition battletomes but also read all the realmgate war books, black vortex and a few other 1st edition books to get into the starting narrative.I've just started Soulwars, why do we suddenly have Huge cities out of nowhere that Stormcast and mortals live in? We were still conquering lands that were 99% chaos occupied literally a book ago. What have I missed here?
>>97551463Those cities happened after the initial Realmgate wars and were somewhat detailed in the firestorm supplement. Also early GW didn’t feel like adhering to time so we didn’t learn until later ish although some books detail it in one or two sentences but about 2 centuries passed iircc
>>97551463>>97551485according to the 4th Ed rulebook, the first 2 Editions take place over about 120 years with the 3rd starting in 117 ST and 4th Edition starting in 133 ST. If we assume that the big campaigns all lasted a decade or 2, that leaves a lot of time for building these cities and growing them to the huge urban areas they are.
>>97551463Who fucking cares AoS lore is stupid
Tzeentch battleforce anon here. Was about to pull the trigger on the Tzeentch box until I just had a peak at other factions, specifically Soulblight and saw the Wight King on Steed model and now I just have to go with that army. I've also just seen they had a battleforce but it's sold out which is a shame, but oh well, I'll start small with the skeleton cavalry guy and work my way towards an army
>>97551580Cool blog bro
>>97551342you might lack taste, anon.
>>97551237they are cool. I love tard energy.
>>97551463>suddenlybetween the realmgate wars and the soulwars there's at least a centuryduring the relmgate wars there were some cities established as beachheads into the realms, first was hammerhal, together with it the other "seeds of hope" in ghyran, living city, phoenicium and greywater, and eventually other cities got established or re-established or contact was made with populations that survived through the age of chaosthe lands were overran by chaos, but it's not like chaos was in every nook and cranny
whats the best realmgate war book?
>>97551709The one where they shout "ONLY THE FAITHFUL!"
>>97551765I know it gets memed but it’s a really good phrase.
>>97551793Says you and who are you? Just a tasteless faggot.
>>97551463Around 300 years have passed between realmgate wars and soul wars
>>97551855Filtered
>>97551663>>97551532>>97551485Cheers lads. I might read the lore in the 1st/2nd edition rule books then and the supplements that came out around that time. Just want to catch up
Is the issue with AoS becoming less popular due to its shift to grimdark? 3rd edition and inparticular 4th edition have seen more dark and depressing story lines such as Stormcast losing themselves more and more etc. It was set up as a setting of hope and promise which we all wanted. We saw this in 40k 4th and 5th edition swinging grimdark and it becoming very unpopular, then in 8th with a return of primarchs, primaris etc - hope, future, noblebright themes etc. It boomed. Grimdark just isnt popular
>>97551913>Is the issue with AoS becoming less popular due to its shift to grimdark?no, it's because the rules aren't exciting or fresh, but they seem like they're shrinking.40k grew in popularity in when it went fully into grim dark, so did fantasy around the same time, so did aos with malign portents, if anything.
>>97551913>hope, future, noblebright themes etc.None of that is true for 40k, you're eating tertiary memes with no basis in reality.
>>97551913AoS is only getting more popular as time goes on (still not very popular). It wasnt interesting at all until they added grimdark to it
>>97551977They're starting to nail it with Battletomes at least. BoK and KO were the pivot into not dogshit and it seems to be going up from there.
>>97551913AoS still isnt grimdark enough. Noblebright isnt interesting and being able to save people corrupted by chaos is boring, stupid, and not interesting.
>>97551913>It was set up as a setting of hope and promise which we all wanted.Who's we you concern trolling fag
>>97552083>still not very popularIt's the second most popular TT wargame what are you smoking?
>>97552177>It's the second most popular TT wargameno, it's not
>>97552177Pffffft no not even closeBattletech regularly outsells it. Most AoS model sales are for no games troon hobbyists so theyre not even playing the actualy game
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Just so you guys know. Perrynigger is back today, he's shitting up /wfg/ as well as here. Just wanted to let you know it's not one of ours, it's just him again.
I guess /twg/ is dead again
>>97552270No, see >>97552240. He's decided to shitpost today and you are going to be targeted by him just as we are. He will attack Fantasy or AoS or 40k depending on where he is posting. He's full of anger and vitriol and you can tell it's him if you're met with hysterical hostility out of nowhere (among other telltale signs). The best response to him is no reponse or simply asking him to post timestamped models of any kind. Which he can't do, because he doesn't play any GW games or own any GW models.
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>>97552232I bought all the battletech I need for like the price of two aos kits so I doubt it.
>>97552177This fact made him so angry he replied to it four times
>>97552534NTA but the guys saying battletech are right. In the US AoS struggles to be top 5 going off the independent store surveys. And I highly doubt it sells as relatively well in Europe as it does in the USA.
>>97552458>>97552618Which makes it even worse because you only need one $30 box of 4 battletech mechs to play so it's extra sad that it's outselling aos>>97552534>there's no way people can actually think it's sad that aos doesn't sell, it's clearly one person samefagging instead of my retarded ass drinking the GW Kool aid that its the 2nd best selling game just because they say so!TOW outsells AoS in Europe btw
>>97552852gothic is on giveway level discounts and nurgle is sold out.
anons building a helsmiths of hashut army, would 3 spearheads + a unit of infernal cohort be a decent start? or should i just go for 4 spearheads instead so i can have 2 reinforced units infernal cohorts and hella dominator engines and mortors ?
>>975529344 spearheads is a bit overkill. If you've got one spearhead and decided you like it, I would suggest 3 spearheads and Uruk Tar for a more warmachine/artillery focused army. I'd also suggest getting hobgrot vandalz to screen for your artillery as they'll be cheaper than the cohort and they can eat the hits while your bull robots get into range. Vandals as a box aren't cheap, but if you aren't super picky about proxies, you can use hobgrot slittaz instead. There's plenty of copies on ebay and hatchette sells them at $15 for 10. A lot of people are running the army more cavalry heavy since centaurs are meta, worth considering if you like those. I personally don't care much for centaurs, I like the army for the warmachine stuff more.
>>97553334very helpful thanks, how many units of centaurs are people taking? im a big fan of everything in the army except maybe the rocket rack lol
>>97552282I feel like perry would shitpost about something more substantial like the horse proportions or whatever instead of just weird shit like aos is too grimdark or muh battletech. I think this is another guy who's been trying to shit up the thread a few times.
>>97551237This art makes it look like he just pulled the other end of that axehead out of his ass. With blood and shit splattering everywhere.
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