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Spider Edition

>/40kg/ Community Link
https://rentry.org/40k-General

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh

>Pre 10th Torrent:
Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5

>10th Edition Rules:
https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL
https://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A

>How to make wargames terrain:
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Previous thread:
>>97542231

>Thread Question:
Who's your favorite phoenix lord?
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>>97544857
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>>97544857
>Who's your favorite phoenix lord?
My brain says Fuegan but my heart says Jain Zar.
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>>97544857
>TQ
Arhra
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What do you considers the best official colors for each factions?
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>Not any smarter than humans
>Half the natural lifespan of humans
>Slower reflexes than humans
>Worse eyesight and depth perception than humans
>Slightly shorter and weaker than humans
>Literally no biological advantages whatsoever over humans
The Tau got screwed over worse than the Necrontyr by biology
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>>97544912
they won the aesthetic lottery
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>>97544926
Hey I know that artist. He draws Tau in OTHER ways too.
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>>97544926
What does the slit even do biologically
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>>97544875
that's your dick speaking
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>>97544932
it spits and farts
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>>97544936
No, my dick wants Lhykhis.
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>>97544576
Challenge accepted
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>>97544926
How is being destiny and Indianwinning
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>>97544999
>tau are le indian
your forced meme has never gained traction despite years of spamming it
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>>97545002
Huh?
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>>97545007
Yes yes limply play dumb like you always do
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>>97544961
reccomendations for affordable ones? All the ones I can see on amazong are the ones with the little plastic walls instead of trays which mixes the groups together.
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I don't believe in drilling the barrels of lasguns.
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So correct me if I'm wrong;
>Good Phoenix Lords
Fuegan: Makes Fire Dragons, an already good unit, much more lethal
Asurmen: Once per game can shit out an unholy number of Dev Wounds on an infantry unit
>Decent Phoenix Lords
Lhykhis: Can hop across the board and charge to do a lot of hits, but there's danger to it
Baharroth: Redeployndeep strike shenanigans
>Bad Phoenix Lords
Maugan Ra: Ability doesn't have much benefit, just a big shuriken cannon
Jain Zar: T3 melee character with a damage-2 profile
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>Chaos Space Marines get to be at the center of everything all the time
>Thousand Sons debuted in 7th edition and got War Zone Fenris: Wrath of Magnus
>Death Guard debuted in 8th edition and got Dark Imperium
>World Eaters debuted in 9th edition and got Arks of Omen: Angron
Where were the big campaigns/boxes/books/whatever for Chaos Knights & Emperor's Children? Why didn't they get to enjoy some limelight? What kind of weird racism discriminates against these two armies specifically but not the others?
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>>97545066
chaos knights only exist to sell the same kits twice
nobody likes emperor's children, literally the least popular chaos faction by a huge margin
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>>97545066
Sorry anon, they needed to make room for Titus. Red Corsairs lucked out and are getting a free win over the Eldar.
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I just don't get why they made wargear free

are they that short sighted? I just hope to god it returns in 11th
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First time trying to give a dynamic pose to a big kit, especially tricky because melee, I think it came pretty close to looking like it's about to fall over, but not quite? How did I do?
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>>97545077
>Introduce power levels as an alternate way to play because its simpler to balance and more ultra casual friendly (just whack on whatever weapons you feel like)
>People get assmad about it, end up removing it.
>A short time later, release a new edition
>This time power levels are the only system available, but you just call them points.
>Barely anyone bats an eye.
They did it because they think we're retards and they're right.
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>>97545066
Slaanesh is something they try not to draw too much attention to whenever they can help it. It doesn't help that their two names Emperor's Children characters are kind of no-lore idiots with no goals in the 42nd Millennium
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>>97545084
>Dynamic pose
>Literally just standing there
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>>97545089
>Barely anyone bats an eye
It's like the number one game-related complaint throughout the entire edition aside from maybe terrain.
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>>97545066
Unless they decide to give EC their second wave before the World Eaters, I think it’ll be a while before they get any focus. Doom Rider and EC bikes would be a neat addition though.
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>>97545091
I don't think you have a good idea of the kit and its limitations/options
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>>97545093
Maybe here. There was nowhere near the outcry.
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>>97545091
Ehhh it's a Leviathan Dread. It's basically a brick with legs.
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>>97545089
but it's the biggest complaint and even GW said it wasn't a good idea
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>>97544857
>TQ
Jain Zar first, Fuegan Second, Lykhis third, high hopes for Karandras
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>>97545084
How did you make this bad ass model look so fucking boring. He looks like he’s bending over so that the futa mechanicus can take a look into his prostate and fill his coffin full of cum.
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>>97545066
>Chaos Knights
charadon
>Emperor's Children
none because nobody cares about them
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>>97545104
OK my bad for trying to posts models here.
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ok the nu-captain kit is kinda cool
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>>97545100
You haven't seen anyone at all complain about having to rewrite their list entirely because they have 5-30 points left and can't just add a model or a pistol to a unit? Because it's literally everywhere if you're in any kind of faction forum or game finder group.
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>>97545107
Don’t ever post HH shit here again.
>>97545110
He’s fucking lame. Or sorry, she’s fucking lame.
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>>97545084
>dynamic
>slightly leaning forward
I flashed the various photos like dramatic cuts in an Indian soap opera and I'm having a fit here
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>>97545124
My only point of reference from this thread is picrel, now that I tried my hand on it I realize that these poses required a lot of skill desu
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>>97545130
clean the lens of your camera lens anon, shits so foggy
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There was a guy like 2 years ago who was putting a salamander captain on a giant lizard. Are those rules now entirely legal?
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>>97545134
That's not my picture.
This anon clearly knew what he was doing because the kit doesn't make it easy at all.
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Working with plastic after year of resin makes me want to fucking cum.
Not just the ease of working with it. But the fact that I can finally do cool conversions with a large range of shit that's basically compatible.
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>>97545096
>>97545066
both EC and Red Corsairs use Bikes but GW did not upgrade the Bikes.
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>>97545130
in my experience the most important parts of running conversions are the waist, arms and ankle, way more than the legs and knees themselves.
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>>97542861
Fell asleep at the desk at 4:30am painting this little lady. Any thoughts on progress?
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>>97544857
>Who's your favorite phoenix lord?
the one who flies the fighter jets.
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>>97545149
She's got spooge on the back of her dress.
Where is the hand from?
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>>97545145
they also didn't update the classic tanks

I think gw's issue here is that they don't know what to do for normal tanks and bikes after making chaos demon engines so organic
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>>97545140
I would breed her. I would give her 10 children.
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>>97545130
qnon who poster that, actually they didnt, they just require creativity

make sure you dryfit and bluetac everything first, as for the legs, build them upwards from the feet
(so for example a running pose, i'd build the standing leg, attach the waist, then build the raised leg)
those leviathans are resin tho, no idea if the plastic kit is much different
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>>97545140
She's perfect
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>>97545163
Well you usually just flush your cum down the toilet so that's not much of a compliment.
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>>97545145
If the rumors have weight, bikes and “fast attack” is getting the focus next edition like how this edition had a Terminator focus. If it happens, it’ll likely be then.
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>>97545032
Try find KNO40305B KISTENBERG
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>>97545154
tiny bit of excess plastic from GWs enshittiying QC. Dont have any sand paper sticks on hand and not to worried about it.
Call me a tard, but what do you mean by where did the hand come from?
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>>97545181
You say "rumors"
I say "looking at patterns and making educated guesses"
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>>97545178
>he doesn’t eat it
Bet you leave your boogers in your nose too.
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>>97545114
That's a man.
He has a decent amount of build options for a modern kit, and they all have cool vibes.
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>>97545156
just put real flesh legs on the bikes holding the tires. Easy.
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>>97545149
lots of different blues happing, got any completed dolls with the same scheme? and the shit on her back is egregious fix it pls
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>>97545187
The fat man talked models in the launch box, and those tend to be his more reliable rumors.
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>>97545194
Recycled with Orange Sunkist via a shotglass for maximum vril retention
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>>97545184
You should have scraped it with a knife, i'd probably do it right now. desu.
Also imo the armour should all be the same blue. Right now the dress is the same colour as the shoulders, its just weird.
Also by hand I mean the power fist arm.
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>>97545182
https://www.tme.com/us/en-us/details/kno40305b/containers-and-boxes/kistenberg/

Oh yea, these look perfect. Thanks.
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>>97545149
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>>97545099
nta, i do, the pose does not convey anything
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>>97545119
Got over 100 updoots today on my new account they didnt catch yet. Guess you’re wrong :)
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>>97545202
Trying to make the combat patrol box based around a blue schema for my myguys lore. Posted the Enginseer in previous thread.

>>97545210
Actually the shoulder plates/helmet are Night Sky and the main coat is Deep Ocean Blue, they just don't show up quite different under my lamp on camera. With the naked eye you can the difference much easier. I will try to take it off with an exacto but I don't have much skill with cleanup and am worried about doing more damage than just a bit of plastic splat. Also the fist is an optional equipment loadout, I stole the oned she's using from another unit in the combat patrol box rather than the usual "commander" pose.

>>97545219
GW makes only the finest female headsculpts and androgenous bodies that you can barely tell if you squint are even female.
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>>97545225
nta, ur a faget
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>>97545233
no u
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>>97545242
maybe build one and report back instead of posting god-tier examples that barely anybody ITT could get close to
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>>97545249
lol, both are mine
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>>97545254
Congrats on the Golden Demon 2018
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>>97545053
right right now? with the shrine token changes and the points changes, no phoenix lord is essential to lists like they were three months ago. At this point it is likely better to just another squad of their respective aspect warriors. BUT:

>Good Phoenix Lords
Jain Zar: single scariest melee threat in the codex, with the tools to get to the combat. The new prince yriel datasheet at 95 points is the only close competition and only into certain profiles. She still very consistently shows up in lists.
Lhykhis: take with the powerblade array exarch for a scary and fast melee threat. She has good synergy with any source of lethal/sustained hits.
Okay Lords
Fuegan: our toughest lord who gives more range to firedragons who can no longer rely on transport shenanigans. maybe not as good as just another squad of fire dragons.
Mediocre lords
Baharroth: not a lot damage for his points. swooping hawks are not very good at 95 points, maybe some MSUs for point capping, nothing you want to attach a 115 point character to. The lord I have the most experience with, and he’s underwhelming.
Asurmen: a good fighter with a good support ability that supports a trash unit, dire avengers. can’t save them from how bad they are
Maugan Ra: does little for his aspect warriors, was interesting popping in and out of a wave serpent, no longer interesting.
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>>97545258
Man I just looked at some gd18 minis and I feel like I'm a babi with fingerpaints comparing to picasso
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>>97545277
Yeah see my goal was only that it wouldn't look weird/like shit.
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Armies with this feel?
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>>97545281
I mean if >>97545254 and >>97545242 are actually you and you're not jus shitposting than gj but post timestamp or gay nigga
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How come daemons get hurt when you shoot them
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>>97545282
Mordian Iron Guard but unironically
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>>97545292
Because they’re not being used a flashlights.
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>>97545296
What
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>>97545292
Them being present in reality means some of reality’s laws are put on them.
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>>97545292
>manifest in the material realm
>now vulnerable to material attacks
Is that simple.
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>>97545292
because when you're shooting them you're also sending destructive thoughts their ways

and because the bullets tear apart the physical bodies they craft to interact with realspace
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Why does nobody talk about Bloodquest when it's probably the best Warhammer 40k story and one of the first published by Black Library? Like when people talk about what 40k books to start with it's almost always something newer and not the pre-black library books like Deathwing or Bloodquest or Gaunt's Ghosts
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>>97545231
>>97545210
Her butt has been smoothed and painted over.
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>>97545312
because nobody gives a fuck about BLslop
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>>97545282
votann would feel on point with lidl/ikea paint job and still be lore accurate
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this is the only warhammer model that never seems to be actually on sale, ebayfags are constantly trying to jack up the price. It's maddening.
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>>97545282
Orks
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>>97545313
Betta
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>>97545322
not only is it available on the site right now 3 of those ebay listings are cheaper than MSRP
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>>97545322
It happens to popular ranges all the time and Deathguard recently became both popular AND competitive so you're doubly fucked.
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>>97545339
>recently
it was 8 years ago
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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One of your Eldar autists escaped containment and is shitting up a Fantasy thread on /v/, please come take him back.
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>>97545333
I should be able to get a used one for like 15 bucks. It's maddening people always try to sell used ones for more money.
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>>97545347
Stay on /v/ and don't complain about your betters visiting your hellish board
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>>97545340
They've been popular for 8 years since their launch but they definitely have not been competitive for the majority of that time. They got early codex power creeped fast in 8th and 9th and in 10th they were almost unplayably bad until their codex super boosted them.
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>>97545350
Well said, kinsman.
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>>97545349
All those listings are NIB
You're shifting goalposts to be able to stay mad about a non-issue
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>>97545350
He's arguing with Primarchfags about nonexistent daemon princes, you fuckers aren't better than anyone.
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>>97545313
what color we thinking for the FIST?
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>>97545349
>people always try to sell used ones for more money
>Posts listings of new-in-box models and complains they are only 15% off MSRP and not 60% off
Go to Facebook marketplace and check local listings and be patient if you want discounts that deep
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>>97545368
If it's the Eldar demon princes guy he's probably right and the lore supports him
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>>97545378
Those don't fucking exist
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>>97544961
Having a full bits box feels so nice
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>>97545372
Because the new models are the same prices as the used ones.
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>>97545347
I wll go there and join him.
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>Go to LGS
>Not a single army that had at least 50% of units painted

Grim.
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>>97545382
My headcanon is that Belakor is an eldar daemon prince.
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>>97545382
you need to go back to /v/ before you embarrass yourself, right now there just a little shit running out of the ankle of your jeans but pretty soon its going to thick and chunky
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>>97545368
back to /v/ little /v/ermin
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JET BIKE SUCCUBUS AND WINGED HAEMONCULUS ARE BACK BABY
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>>97545399
O fuk where's the leak?
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I hope they bring back the initative characteristic

fights first just doesnt work and you can't balance shit like thunder hammers and lightning claws against each other if you give the thunder hammer a bajillion attacks like they constantly do
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>>97545399
Wash your fucking hands what the fuck
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>>97545370
Applying some gun metal fore the main part of the fist, going to detail in the cracks and palm with some true brass and some cobalt metal for the fingertips
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>>97545399
1. POST DA FOOKIN LINK YA CUNT

2. Please wash your hands...
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>>97545400
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177mS6CC1dk_gq6OrSVBdV8GPXin4ybDm?usp=sharing

Full leaks of character creation
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>>97545399
Alright anon fess up is that paint or is it feces
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>>97545409
GOOD SHIT ANON
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>>97545409
THE GOAT. Should we make a seperate new thread with the leaks for us to all post our new donutsteel OCs?
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Liber Chaotica says that Eldar Deamon Princes are the gods most powerful and terrible servents and that they are so prized due to their rarity the gods dare not risk them in real space. There's ones who openly embraced Slaanesh as their creation or those who pledged themselves to others for protection against Slaanesh.

In other words, they have no tabletop presence.
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>>97545106
>>Chaos Knights
>charadon
They weren't really present for that. When Be'lakor conquered Kolossi he completely relocated it beyond the Great Rift, and as a result the corrupted knights of House Raven never saw battle in the war for Charadon. They didn't even become House Korvax until after they were gone from there.
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>>97545410
Its obviously paint dumbo
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>>97545409
>GSC
>incomplete
God damn it
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>>97545409
Ill get editing this into a single PDF instead of this awful dogshit drive situation.
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>>97545409
>Autarch Skyrunners are back
>Wraithseers are (kinda) back
OH BABY
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>>97545409
Lame you can’t make a Terminator character in Space Marines, but entirely negated by being able to make a Dreadnought character now.
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>>97545426
>>97545425

It's still being updated as we speak with more images. Some aren't finished yet but they are working on them.
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>>97545423
You haven't been around enough people in this hobby...
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Holy shit, the blood of the man he killed to get this still on his hands...
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>>97545427
Wraithlord with Character also means you can run a purely Wraith Construct army.
God DAMN this seems too good to be true
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>>97545409
>deepstriking necron nobles
God I'm going to be kitbashing so many crons.
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Guard bros, how're you holding up?
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>>97545439
2000 points of Dreadnoughts are gonna be real too with need Terminators to cheese it.
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>>97545409
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177mS6CC1dk_gq6OrSVBdV8GPXin4ybDm?usp=sharing

Thanks.
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>>97545409
>lightning claws only twinned
gay
>no custom terminator character option
extremely gay
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Sorry to be a newfag with all this I just wanna make sure I have all my paints ready for my cadians. I’ll prime them black, and I have;
>From citadel
>Zandri dust
>leadbelcher
>cadian flesh tone
>nuln oil
>kislev flesh
>Ak 3rd gen
>leather brown
>dark brown
>intermediate green
>gunship green
>tan earth
>light earth
I think I’m missing black and white paint but besides those am I missing anything vital for the standard green and khaki colors?
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>>97545447
playing an edition with heavy weapons in infantry squads
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>>97545452
You forgot the most important one.
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>>97545288
No I'm the anon who assembled a basic bitch dreadnought and I'm saying I just wanted it not to be bad, however it's true a timestamp from that anon would have been nice
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>>97545409
>no terminator character
GODDAMMIT
THE ONE THING I WANTED
AUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>97545447
not good. guard doesnt feel like the army that I felt in love with anymore.
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>>97545391
I wanted to play 10th with a fully painted army but I ended up only playing two (2) games because of that. Now I just prime and paint later.
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>Objectively better than a 5-man squad of Chosen
>10 points cheaper
GW does it again
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>>97544055
FUCK! I'm retarded, I meant what citadel paint best gets that glossy smooth jade like quality?
Still warpstone glow?
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>>97545490
For some odd reason I mistook that picture as Shadow the Hedgehog's ring bracelets.
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>>97545484
It's an epic hero so you can only take one though. Funny that none of them are characters so you can't give up assassination.
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How does GW pick the community painters for those articles? Guessing it's just picking popular painters off of instagram.
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>>97545399
so you can have a winged archon?
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>>97545437
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Wait I’m just getting into the rules of the actual tabletop game, are people happy with the new custom character rules??
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>>97545504
No, actually. Because you can't take Kabal Overlord and Pseudoavian Form at the same time. They were lazy and didn't give you an Archon base character template and you have to upgrade a Succubus into one as your one upgrade instead.
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I want to see armies on parade for gene stealer cults.
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>>97545471
>>97545288
here you go
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>>97545526
bro they are collecting fucking dust. Get some yellow cum on them to shine them up.
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>>97545516
I am also reminded again that grotesques are legends models.
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>>97545509
I find them confusing and would have to figure out what i'm actually allowed to do because it seems like there are weird exceptions. I don't want to kitbash a badass leader and then have him not tabletoppu legal. But at the minimum allowing people to put a guy on a jetbike instead of making people wait 5 years for them to shit out a guy on jetbike model with datasheet is a positive.
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>>97545526
Whoa nice dreadies
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Hold on a minute, there doesn’t seem to be anything barring me from bringing my Oldnaught as a character, this is great. Also Terminator characters are possible, it’s a upgrade on the Specialisms page, it’s a 15+ point upgrade to Terminator armor and you replace the stat line with a Terminator one.
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>>97545542
I want to melt these down
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>>97545542
these are disgusting though, you ban evading cunt
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GW are absolute COWARDS for not putting these rules into matched play.
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So how do you deal with not being able to paint worth a damn? Cause I want to paint my army and get it onto the table, but it fucking hurts to butcher my minis.
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>>97545530
Any game that you could play this in, you can play legends units like Grotesques in. Their legends data sheets are also very good.
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>>97545551
Not ban evading, that would be you.
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>>97545421
>Liber Chaotica says that Eldar Deamon Princes are the gods most powerful and terrible servents
at what page?
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>>97545472
anon you can make a terminator character
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>>97545409
>Corsairs get options but Harlequins don't
God damnit GW the clowns subfaction is double the size of the pirates
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>>97545562
the knowledge that you will only get better with practice and that stripping the paint is easy.
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>>97545562
Bro painting at a decent level is not difficult at all, you’re really overthinking it
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>can have a possessed exalted champion with chaos lord abilities and a heavy flamer
fuck yeah
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>>97545542
cool flowers, but the orange plasma gun is dog shit
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>>97545594
Cool art
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>>97545578
corsairs do not have generic prince models so you have to make your own.
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I must have missed something, what are these leak things?
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The rules let you make an Apothecary, Techmarine, and Chaplain with any armor type and even on bikes now, James better release these rules for regular download, they’re too good. If they keep them around they could justify upgrade sprues to for character upgrades.
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I'll build a model if they confirm this for 11th, otherwise would just be a waste.
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>>97545545
the dread character stat line is primaris dreads along with the weapons they can take
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>>97545565
NTA
>Not ban evading
All your posts got deleted and a ban on /tg/ went up in the same minute
You can't keep lying about things so easily disproven
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>>97545582
My attempts look like dogshit.
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>>97545542
how dogshit ones taste must be to think adding this amount of additional, ugly bits is a good idea
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>>97545562
>>97545626
You cannot improve at anything if you're afraid to fail
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>>97545613
The new Maelstrom book set includes one called the Crucible or some such. It's entirely about making and kitbashing custom characters with (semi) official rules.
>>97545614
I'm wondering if this is them testing out custom characters for 11th, could easily fit this stuff into the individual codices with more options. God I hope so with what I'm seeing so far.
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>>97545614
>any armor type
not terminators loel
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>>97545640
Read the special upgrade options
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Do not be afraid to paint, anons
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Are volkites painted the same way as plasma weapons or what's the difference?
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>>97545439
>FOUR ranged guns on a custom wraithlord
WHAT
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>>97545662
Red magic lasers instead of blue magic lasers
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>>97545623
Got one post removed with a 15 min warning, now shut the fuck up and stay on topic.
>>97545628
Your model are ugly just like you
>>97545596
I think I did alright
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IGNORE THE PREVIOUS COLLAGE
WE SHOULD HAVE A "MAKE YOUR OWN CUSTOM CHARACTER" CHALLENGE THIS MONTH
NEEDS RULES + WYSIWYG WARGEAR
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>>97545668
>I think I did alright
think again
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>>97545665
It’s been a while since I looked at the kit, but you can really load a Wraithlord up I believe while the 10th datasheet doesn’t reflect that.
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>>97545677
we already did a kitbash collage last year
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>>97545662
They’re usually depicted as a red/orange.
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>>97545677
who the fuck do you expect to submit something when barely anyone posts models here anymore lol
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>>97545409
Ooh, this is very cool.
I wonder if there's rules for special gear like shields and iron halos.
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>>97545662
volkites are ideally hot while plasma are ideally cool
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>>97545409
Is this only for crusade or what
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>>97545635
>It's entirely about making and kitbashing custom characters with (semi) official rules.
Neat, Im looking through it it looks pretty sick.

How's this first attempt looking:
>Sorcerous Champion
>Jump pack (obviously)
>Daemonkin/Prescient (not sure which one I like more)
>Twin-lightning claws
>Close Combat/Force weapon (again, not sure which one I like and "fits" more)
>Infernal Gaze
>Rite of Possession
>Bolt pistol
>Plasma Pistol

This feels very thematic for Nightlords with all the antipsyker and the leadership tests and such.
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>>97545665
You technically get that already with two shoulder mounted guns and two wrist mounted weapons, but the wrists only let you take Flamers or regular Catapults. That caveat actually carries over since the heavier weapons still get the ± sign stating you can take up to two of them.
This does mean you can take two heavy weapons, Destructor, and Eldritch Storm on a Wraithlord taking Path of the Witch, AND still get a Ghostglaive..
Wraithseers may be fucking nasty to deal with.
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>>97545621
its a character, my boxnaut has upgraded weapons because of it
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Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
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>>97545640
are you retarded
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>>97545405
Gotta go help granny irl so taking a break for the afternoon
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>>97545704
>This does mean you can take two heavy weapons, Destructor, and Eldritch Storm on a Wraithlord taking Path of the Witch, AND still get a Ghostglaive..
Upon rereading that is not the case. You can only get up to 4 Ghost Warrior weapons, so you either get the platform weapons or Eldritch Storm.
This DOES mean Aspect Weapon Farseers can be a thing though.
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any ideas how to turn these guys into gsc? I kinda like the body builder vibe they have along with the cultish aspect they have that blends in with the locus. Was thinking about hybrid acolytes, but I dunno what to do about heads. Should I keep them as is? I'd prefer to keep it something thats masked either way. Could make em more gsc by sculpting some chitin or stuffing some extra hands here and there.
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>>97545668
He looks awesome anon
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>>97545668
Badass. Wouldn't want to mess with him.
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>>97545762
>>97545752
Ty kings
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most blatant samefagging.
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>>97545084
I recommend looking up a reference photo.
I used American History X as inspiration for this one :)
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>>97545769
Hurts to know some people like my models doesn’t it?
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>>97545777
I feel like that would be easy to snap off of its base.
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character creation is a step in the right direction but still seems too stripped-back
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>>97545781
Nobody does, they're doing it to bait out replies
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>>97545787
This is likely the Boarding Parties of 10th. 11th will likely feature the Crucible again with (hopefully) expanded options for each army in their Codex.
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>>97545399
YOU FUCKS. YOU WERE SO CLOSE AND YOU FUCKED IT UP.
The new characters can't get the Archon, Haemonculus, or Succubus keywords. That means they don't work with any of the Detachments or strategems that look for those. And more importantly, THEY CAN'T BE YOUR ASCENDANT LORD IN CRUSADE. God damnit GW.
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>>97545787
It's surprisingly restrained which is not what I expected at all. Makes me a little sad they didn't just unleash it into matched play for the last 3 months of the Edition since they usually like to stir the pot and blow up the end of edition balance anyway, like they did with Arks of Omen last time.
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Incubus Master Krueger
Archtormentor with Kabal Overlord
Attached to Incubi
Storm of Blades ability
Takes a Shardcarbine, 2 Blast Pistols and Haemonculus weapons.

When this unit attacks, it has -
>Anti-Infantry 2+
>Sustained Hits
>Precision
>Dev Wounds
>d3 Damage
>Crits on 5 thanks to KC
>Reroll hits
>Gain a CP upon killing a character.
>Rest of the squad has +1 to wound a squad on Strength 5 Dam 2 AP 2 Dev Wound Marine Mulchers

This unit will, therefore, jump out of a venom, deal on average of 12 mortal wounds to an infantry character (Which on average even kills a unit like Calgar with a 4+ Feel No Pain), and then gains a CP and between 4-5 pain tokens.
Then it jumps back into the venom to do the same again next turn.
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>>97545783
It's pinned
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>>97545790
I hate you
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>>97545787
>>97545799
>can do things with characters that haven't been possible for over 30 years
>fags here still going "meh not enough"
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I play Deathwatch because their hatred of Xenos almost matches my hatred of the pajeets.
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>>97545806
I dont think a leviathan can get pinned down. even if he was I dont think he would have the luxury of stomping on a piss fist.
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>>97545802
People like this will create characters like this, get his group to try it and then wonder why nobody wants to play with these rules again
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>>97545750
I'd consider cutting off the noses and chins, and then attaching cables from the mask to some rebreather or filter apparatus on the chest or back or pauldron, that way they can be made to look futuristic, you get away from the moon/bird iconography that's very tzeentchian, and can use the cables to mirror feeding tendrils somewhat.

if you have some old tyranid kits then you should use gaunts' spare adrenal glands as the breathing apparatus, even when painted metallic it will have the organic shapes of the tyranids and it's also nice and compact and believable as something that grips onto flesh

if you want to attach extra chitinous arms you either use the aberrants' trick and paint one shoulder muscles' mass as chitinous plates so you can attach the genesteslery arm without needing the proper joint, or you glue the chitinous arms under the pauldron, on the models that have one, once you have removed the normal muscular arm, so the pauldron hides the joint nicely

they also beg for alien veins or tattoos on their skin
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>>97545749
>This DOES mean Aspect Weapon Farseers can be a thing though.
nothing technically stops an autarch from having walked the path of the seer in his past or viceversa
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>>97545110
>>97545196
I have him, picked the mustache head and kept it simple with laspistol + power sword
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>>97545573
We're so fucking back.
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>>97545815
can't hear you, too busy reaping space marines
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The funny thing about these rules means that 40k rules have completed the flip from
>All players need to agree to use named characters
to
>All players need to agree to use custom characters
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>>97545802
Where's the reroll hits from?
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All I need to do is put a Xenophase blade standing buried in the dirt beside him for him to be complete.
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>>97545827
I think the best part of these rules is it going "it has to be correctly modelled or you're a dick"
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>>97545832
>You're vigil
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>>97545808
yeah and? gonna cry about it faggot?
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Can i create a custom demon prince and ally that in chaos armies?
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>>97545828
Archtormentor's basic pain ability is reroll hits with Pain Token
You make it a Kabal Overlord
Take either Darkglass Prism or Storm of Blades (So no overwatch OR sustained outside of KC)
Haemonculus tools (Not locked to Fleshcrafters)
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>>97545841
Thanks anon
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>>97545815
don't hate the player hate the game. trad gamers are so pussy
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I am very hyped to begin this project
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>>97545842
You're the one crying about it though?
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>>97545813
kek
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>only specialism availabe to wraithlord is to make it a psyker
>best ability for it is Doomseer
>all the ranged options are 2+ to hit
>only the ghostglaive is 4+ to hit base
>but you can only give it 4 GHOST WARRIOR ranged weapons which doesn't include the psychic powers
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
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I really hope they keep these rules in 11e since it's just going to be 10.5e
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As awesome as these rules are my disappointment in the limited armories is immeasurable. Also I can't make a librarian dread which was the thing I was most excited about.

Also no rules for Lone Operatives in most of the armies.

Imagine 11th changes all generic characters to crucible options. I would cum.
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>>97545861
actually i shared an opinion, which in turn made you cry. now you will reply to me to cry some more because it is simply in your nature to be a little bitch
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>>97545868
Its going to be massively overhauled in 11th, major changes.
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>>97545815
>Dark Eldar finally does somthing a dark eldar should be able to
No, it's based
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Where are you guys seeing the crucible rules and making your own shit?
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>>97545870
>n-no you're the one crying
>i-ignore me throwing a fit over something I know nothing about
lol
lmao
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>>97545875
Git gud scrub
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11th is going to be shit
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>>97545850
Radical.
Man Im looking over some of these pages and I just wanna craft all sort of custom characters now or use the "proxies" i made.
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>>97545869
>Also I can't make a librarian dread which was the thing I was most excited about.
you can if you're a bangelchad
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>can equip a battlesuit veteran with a braodside battlesuit, 2 heavy rail rifles and a high yield missile pod

my friend....you return after all this time...
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>>97545853
I'd say find a shorter name for it, like
>Eternal Vigil
>Back into the Fray
>Not Over Yet
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>>97545875
here >>97545409
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>>97545867
Yeah it's to keep them from going overboard. Eldritch Storm hits on a 3+ so Doomseer does buff that at least.
So
>Ghost Warrior
>Path of the Witch
>Doomseer
>Eldritch Storm
>Ghostglaive
Eldritch Storm hitting in 2s and rerolling 1s is pretty alright, at least.
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>>97545860
>old chaos rhino
*sad rhino noises*
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Question: Are crucible units Crusade only?

>>97545884
My SEETHE is immeasurable.

>>97545890
I used the rules in the book. That's what GW themselves wrote. I agree it's a bit clunky.
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Should I buy the corsair box so I can sell it later if I don't really want it? I know normally that's kind of retarded (people who buy stuff, build half and then try to sell it on ebay for full price) but it really grinds my gears when kits are sold out for a year or more and all teh remaining copies are being sold for like 400 bucks for a box that was supposed to be 230 bucks.
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>>97545667
>>97545695
>>97545688
What about melta? Is it invisible like micro waves?
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>>97545897
>Are crucible units Crusade only?
no, just have to ask before playing
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>paint a scheme
>start by thinking I'm not a fan
>halfway through I really like it
>by the end I just hate it
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>>97545847
I think so but only chaos daemons can make a prince so you'd have to also ally a battleline daemon unit of the same alignment
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>>97545894
Should I buy one to use as my 2nd rhino or does it look dumb on the table running two different rhino kits?
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>>97545897
libby dreads have been bangel unique for decades
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>>97545897
Crucible units are “Both players gree to have them,” only. For casual games they can show up, but I imagine crusade and narrative games are where they’ll shine the most.
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>>97545899
dont. they're harder to sell unless you have like 10 of them on hand.
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>>97545906
Lets see it
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>>97545828
Oh shit I just realized I can finally make that Kheradruakh kitbash I wanted to make but didn't because he has no rules.
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>>97545907
Damn dude, I guess Ill keep proxying stuff as demon princes as they are then.
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>>97545867
Are you nuts? He can have permanent cover which is INSANE on a Wraithlord. Also you can bring 3 Crucible characters so you can bring 3 Psychic Wraithlords, which are PSYKERS so they can buff the other 3 normal Wraithlords.
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>>97545815
why don't his friends just make their own OP characters.
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>>97545909
return the chaos rhino, buy two of the new HH kit. its better in every single way, and you can still buy the EC doors easily if you want to go the extra mile.

chaos vehicle sprues are cheap as fuck if you want the spikes and icons etc.
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>>97545897
no, but both players need to agree on it, and the model has to be appropriately armed

e.g the broadside mentioned in >>97545889 isn't possible with just a generic plastic current 40k broadside, as it only has a single heavy rail rifle and regular missile pods (are they high yield on the shoulder? point being is that it doesnt have 2 rail rifles)
but because the old metal one DOES have 2 rail rifles, it can have that
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>>97545911
Yea, but there's no reason it has to be. Any chapter could just stick their honored librarian in a coffin. I want my libby dreads in normal ass marines.
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>>97545916
It's thousand sons with incubi darkness and retributor armor, with warpaints mulled berry for the forearms and hands.
I don't care what I've said for however long, I'm gonna just use some thousand sons baby blue on these guys.
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>>97545900
consult the video
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>Craftworld Warleader
>Patch of the Witch
>Doomseer
>Paragon Saber
>Star Glaive
>Eldritch Storm
>Dragon Fusion Pistol
Haha time for WARseer
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>>97545922
but cover sucks in 10th edition
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>>97545909
NTA, I like the variety. It's kind of a fun way to do have the tanks differentiated by model. However, I have to admit that the deimos one looks nicer to me. Make sure to use rubberbands on the tank in a dryfit assembly and let that sit overnight to better fit the panels together
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>>97545705
B-bu-tt
modeling for advantage ;^}
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>>97545906
>painted an archon and 15 kabalites GREEEEEEEEN
>actually I want them to be word bearers red, or incubi dark
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>>97545860
so are you just gonna slapchop all these guys or are you gonna really grind out 60 models. Especially with Fulgrim and Lucious you want those to look nice.
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The part about bases sizes is neat cause technically any model you can become a character if you like them enough. Shame the Storm Shield doesn’t have rules for generic Marines, but I suppose the conversion field specialism covers that option.
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>>97545935
So what's the difference between melta and flamethrower then?
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>>97545934
Don't worry about it, for what it's worth it's literally impossible to make a better scheme than their default turquoise+gold
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>>97545938
Just imagine it says you have a 1+ save against everything but flamers. It counters out AP, which is very useful on something like a Wraithlord.
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>>97545545
can also break out all the heresy dreads too
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>>97545950
I don’t paint to finish a model. I paint to improve it. I’m gonna take my sweet time to achieve perfection
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>>97545832
Is there some software you're using to make these custom datasheets or just photoslop?
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>>97545409
>if you want your custom tyranid creature to join zoanthropes then it can't be psychic
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>>97545777
is he stepping on a salamander?
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>>97545926
>>97545939
Thanks for the advice anons. I’m gonna grab two deimos rhinos and outsource those EC doors. I put the note about the rubber bands in my notes app ty
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>>97545953
It really does feel like that. I think I picked the worst possible army to say "no blue" for.
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>>97545614
*chaplains are already on bikes
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>>97545952
the same between a spray of napalm on fire and the flame of a blowtorch or of a jet engine
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>>97545964
https://game-datacards.eu

Your welcome homie.
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>>97545986
Thanks, based.
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>>97545985
So melta is "super-fire"
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>>97545975
Try grabing the chaos tank sprue or at least some bits from it off ebay or wherever so you can have some chaos bits on it. If any store you go to has a bits box, there are bound to be some of the spiked railings in it.
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>>97545953
red+silver
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>>97545409
GW probably know i have old conversion, Perfect for Soul Forge Tyrant with Bladed Limbs XD
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>>97546002
not even close
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>>97546006
Looks horrendous. Great work
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>>97545919
>Sons of Horus Green->Black Legion Black
>World Eaters White->World Eaters Red
>Thousand Sons Red->Thousand Sons Blue
>Death Guard Off-white->Death Guard shart Green
>Emperor's Children Purple->Emperor's Children Pink
>Alpha legion Blue->Alpha Legion greenish Blue
>Word Bearers Silver->Word Bearers wine Red
Night Lords are the only Chaos who kept their original colours, because they were already evil.

Meanwhile only Saladmanders and Dark Angels and Wolf guys changed their colours.
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>>97545995
it's concentrated
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So, i still cant make farseer with ranger rifle?
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Gonna do this one last guy for the big gunz collage
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>>97546024
sovl
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>>97546024
Will be sad to see you go
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>>97546030
I'll be over on /wip/ and /grog/ so I won't be far
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>>97546014
I think you replied to the wrong person.
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>>97545409
>Brayheard Chieftain
>Brayheard Shaman
>2
>fucking 2 Tzaangor character in Thousand Sons
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>>97546048
really feels like trolling at this point
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>>97546048
So you can run an entirely tzaangor army now right
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>>97546024
Shit, didn't know you were still around purpleanon but I'll miss you
You excited for the crucible customization stuff?
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>>97546024
wow I wonder what could be the reason
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>>97545919
>>97546047
what colour are your daemon penises.
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>>97546069
Yeah. I've lurked a bit but I feel like it's time. As for the custom character thing I think it's really cool, I just hope 11th will be fun to play.
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>>97545997
Yeah I might as well hold onto this rhino to source parts from. Luckily rhinos are cheap
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>>97546048
why do they want to make tzaangors 'happen' so badly?
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>>97546084
because they're based. If they cant make tzaangor work, we're stuck with the shitty demon engines and red corsairs for life.
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>>97546078
Many colors.
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>>97546048
>space marine Sorcerer
>Tzaangor
>Tzaangor but Psychic
>no Demon Prince
This is a fucking joke
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>>97546077
It is the reason you think yes
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>>97546086
are you the guy who did sigvald here
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>>97546084
because it's only a matter of time before they're removed from 40k, gotta push the cucks to buy them
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>>97546084
GW knows better than you what a TS army should consist of
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>>97546092
Yeah but he's a lot easier to run as a demon prince of slaanesh.
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>>97546093
I dont think thousand sons will get removed from the game anon, although that would be justice.
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>>97546106
the cape reminded me of the shield, you're a better painter than you let on.
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>>97546106
Sigvald is so cool and I like his aesthetic so much more than goop faced EC
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>did not buy kt: tomb world because the terrain was cool but no interest in necrons
>deathwatch team is 110 bucks on ebay for months now
Mistakes were made last year. Way too many mistakes.
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>>97546112
Thanks anon Im glad you think so. I try to do something cool with all the more unique models I paint, a little bit of freehanding here and there.
I have been struggling with the painting and being kinda sick repeatedly lately so I feel like my painting ability has diminished quite a bit. I need to get back in the game.
God these new captchas are so tedious lately.
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>>97545084
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose ripping their hair out with posing this kit. What did you use to keep the kit in place? I used a kneaded eraser but it's not enough to keep in place.
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>>97546128
>poorfags constantly losing their minds over two cheeseburgers worth of profits they could have made scalping a box
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Since I'm bored at work here's my analysis of the Eldar options compared to existing Characters.
>Warleader (Aspect Armor) vs Autarch
Autarch already had numerous great loadout options, all of which are present for Warleader. Warleader DOES get access to the Paragon Sabre, though this is at best a sidegrade to the Banshee Blade. Rules-wise both get Superlative Strategist, but this diverges on secondary rules; Autarch gets Rites of Battle while Warleader gets full Hit/Wound Rerolls. Notably, the Warleader is 10p cheaper
Conclusion; Warleader is easily better if you're running another Autarch already. It's cheaper for a more dangerous version of the same base loadout.
>Warleader (Doomseer) vs Farseer
Holy shit. Your Farseer can now hit Eldritch Storm on 2+, can take a Dragon Fusion Pistol, and has proper melee weapon options with Paragon Saber, Star Glaive, or Banshee Blade. Paragon Saber is actually MORE viable for Doomseer than Aspect-Warleader, as the +1 to hit offsets the 3+ WS. You lose out on targetted Guide and auto-6 replacement, but the led unit gets +1 to Hit and the Warleader can reroll their own attacks. The Warleader IS 5p more than an unenhanced Farseer though .
Conclusion; The utility you lose is far outweighed by the new loadout options and rerolls. Combat Farseer is a potential menace against MEQ, and potentially even Terminators.
>Warleader (Warden of Fate) vs Farseer
Vastly worse over Doomseer, but provides some survivability if you're running Guardians or Storm Guardians.
Conclusion: Not Doomseer.
>Skyrunner (Aspect Armor) vs nothing lmao
Conclusion: Autarch Skyrunner is back, and he's giving Spears Advance+Charge
Cont.
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Playing Necrons and CSM and seeing these customization options has me feeling so ambivalent
On one hand, holy shit I can finally have an Ophydian or Flayer lord, but on the other I can't make my own Daemon Prince or cultist leader
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>>97546084
Because Thousand Sons were always a fucking terrible idea for an army and will be eternally starved for units
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>>97546133
Now I want to convert an autarch skyrunner, not sure how to though
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>>97546131
I didn't want to scalp the box I wanted to buy the DW team, I didn't realize people were so gay and retarded that buying the Tomb World box, selling the 'crons and keeping the DW was the optimal move since the DW team is still way overpriced anywhere it's being sold and just not worth it. It shouldn't have to be like this.
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Can custom characters be warlords?
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>>97546172
As opposed to WE, the army with a bunch of units no one asked for like Jackasses and is still missing units people want, such as the Butcher Surgeon or the terminators with axes and chains.
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Just realized I can finally build the "World Eaters Lord on Foot" that comes with the Invocatus Sprue that would normally be a Lord on Juggernaut.
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>>97546174
turn an old vyper or venom into a chariot or use the farseer skyrunner or a shining spear as basis
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>>97546133
>Skyrunner (Doomseer) vs Farseer Skyrunner
It's Doomseer on a fucking bike. Loses out since it can only lead Windriders, which you'll need to take to bring Warlock Skyrunners. That said, with the Warlocks you get Ignores Cover while ALSO giving the Windriders +1 to hit. The Doomseer ALSO gives the unit Advance+Charge, but loses the 6-replacement and no longer applies -1 to Wound to an enemy. It's still a fucking menace that can tote around everything the normal Doomseer gets, minus rerolls.
Conclusion; More expensive to pull off than Doomseer, but at 80p it's exactly equal to the Farseer
>Warleader (Wayleaper) vs Autarch Wayleaper
Similar to Footarch, however the key difference here is this Autarch gets a potential Battle Focus refund which may benefit Hawks and Spiders more. Superlative Strategist is less valuable as Spiders don't have Assault and Hawk's Talon doesn't either.
Conclusion; Probably keep the Autarch here. He's only 5p more.
>Warleader (Corsair) vs Nothing
Conclusion: Anrathe support to go with new Corsairs. Unfortunately does not get Corsair toys.
>Warleader (Outcast) vs Nothing
Conclusion; Illic and Amallyn are back, kinda. You can give it heavier weapons at least since Long Rifles suck.
>Ghost Warrior (Doomseer) vs Nothing
Conclusion; Every Eldar player who runs any Wraiths is probably going to run at least one of these. It's 20p more than a normal Wraithlord for a Psyker that in turn buffs Wraiths around it, doesn't need babysitting, gets a better Fated Hero, and can take Eldritch Storm.
>Ghost Warrior (Warden of Fate)
Conclusion; Support Wraithseer. Still 20p more, but trades offense for defense. Eldritch Storm is less valuable, but you can instead take Brightlances that hit on 2+.
Overall conclusion; Good fucking lord this shakes the Eldar Codex up a lot. Wraith and Psyker support is vastly improved.
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>>97546174
Maybe warlock skyrunner but chop him in two at the torso and mount an Autarch upper body on him.
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>>97546194
Also allows you to make a cultist army lead by a mortal champion. The Dishonored model in the jakhals always seemed like he should be a leader.
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>>97546188
Why did you hallucinate a support for World Eaters as an army that I did not proclaim or imply in my post? Why do you all do this thing where you write fanfiction and then argue with that?
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>>97546194
What the skibidi
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>>97546216
Maybe your post is the fanfiction, ever think of that Nostradamus?
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>>97546219
Yes anon
World Eaters and Emperor's Children have Terminator Lords now. EC also got Terminator Sorcerors.
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god this is the most exciting thing that's happened all edition. I want to do so many awesome model kitbashes now.
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>>97546226
>>97546219
Shit they all should have had the day their codexes were announced.
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I am extremely confused by this death guard archetype. It seems like someone at GW had an idea for something cool, but I have no idea what that specifically (or non-specifically) would be. Like a character model composed of 3 guys? 3 plague spreaders? Super Poxwalkers? I don't get it.
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>>97546235
3 Plague Marines it seems. They share their ability but can take multiple loadouts and thus are tougher.
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>>97546242
so like the chosen of mortarion set.
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>>97546235
Statwise, seems like 3 plague marines in a trenchcoat
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>>97546247
Yep. That said, looks like they can also take Terminator Armor. So holy shit you get three Terminator Lords in one unit for 120p.
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>>97546235
It’s easy to end up with extra models with how Plague Marine kits are, I imagine it’s to cover that.
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>>97546232
I'm going to push my group to allow this in every single game we play. Gods I hope something like this makes it into every codex in 11th
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>>97545409
This is so cool
Custom units when
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>once again, tsons get shafted the hardest
That is so funny.
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>>97545409
Can't download and read for a few hours but I have a burning need to know. Can I make a Canoness with a jump pack?
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>>97545409
>can make a world eaters leader with jump pack
>can't field raptors
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>>97546235
Feels like a stand-in for the Plague Brethren-like old kits
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>Death Guard can run 3 characters as one unit
>Thousand Sons, which sells a box of 3 characters, can't
I hate this
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>>97546287
Yes.
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Opinions please
Should I repose him? Ot keep him as the armourcast single plane mold intended?
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>>97546308
Paragon Suit character is also possible now.
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>>97546308
YES. FUCKING FINALLY.
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>Inquisitor on Throne of Judgement is back
holy based
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>>97545409
I'm so fucking confused. Gwen doesn't do this anymore. When was the last time we got options like this? I thought they were on the "only rules for things we have exact models for" kick still. Is 40k healing?
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>>97545409
How many custom characters are we permitted in a force?
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>stuck a stormshield on a Assault Intercessor sergeant when I got into the hobby and never really finished the paint job
>if I finish him now he can be a special character
The winds of motivation flow through me.
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>>97546348
Crusade/narrative play are kind of in their own little petri dish kept separate from the core game.
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>>97546364
these aren't for crusade/narrative
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>>97546359
3 total.
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>>97546367
Holy shit.
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Everyone know you're a gooner if you play eldar, dark eldar, tau, or sisters.
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Did Graham Mcneill comment on Richard Dawkins being in the Epstein files?
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>>97546380
hey at least I'm not a homosexual that plays marines
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>>97546380
Sounds like you're the one who can't look at those factions without your mind short-circuiting about your porn addiction.
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>>97546380
Why would I hide that I'm attracted to tall athletic women with pointy ears who can use magic?
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>>97546384
>the deflect
>>97546385
>the reverse
>>97546390
>the embrace
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>>97546380
>tfw three strikes
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>>97546384
>>97546385
cringe
>>97546390
based
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>>97546380
>>97546384
But I'm a homosexual who plays eldar and dark eldar
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>>97546396
Brother I want a Howling Banshee to embrace my head with her thighs, and I have never refuted that.
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>>97546412
I said gooner, I didn't say anything about straight
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>>97546396
>doing all 3 in the same post
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>>97546423
I'm not a gooner
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>>97546429
>>97546434
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>Terminator with storm bolter, 2 pistols, and 2 melee weapons
>Corsair lord bedecked in swag
>Tau secret agent man (already done, actually)
>Kasrkin commander
Oh man there's a bunch of things I wanna make.
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>>97546292
Yeah but jetpack lord seems cool.
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>>97546380
probably indian too.
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>>97546380
I got dark eldar, corsairs, ynnari and quins but not craftw*rlds or ghost legion.
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>>97546348
This is essentially a legends supplement homie, don't get that excited.
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>>97546348
>Gwen
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>>97546383
lmao, he probably hasn't thought about him in years as he slipped even further into irrelevence.
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>>97546490
Auto correct strikes again.
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Everyone seems to be missing some things explained in the new rules so I'll post them here:
>Crucible characters are NOT legal for match play and only for casual games where both players agree
>You can have up to 3 crucible characters in a force
>All characters have to be WYSIWYG and use appropriate base sizes and can't be modelled with a model from another faction
>Characters get only one specialism but can have multiple abilities and points increases may apply
>First two weapons are free but each additional weapon adds 5 points to the cost, with some weapons costing extra
>Crucible characters cannot use enhancements
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>>97546521
>caring about match play
friendless faggot lmao
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>>97546380
Ironically Dark Eldar players have less overlap with gooners than most factions, according to reddit browsing records
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B
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>>97546521
Fuck. Well there goes my enthusiasm.
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>>97546521
Crucible characters are NOT legal for match play and only for casual games where both players agree
well guess that measn none of this amtters to me.
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Wow, 9 Daemon Princes is actually possible.
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>>97546521
There's no mention of matches play there
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As awesome as these rules are, they still feel pretty fucking lacking. The armories for the factions I play are very sparse and missing tons of options. Feels like there should be 3x the content for this system. As cool as it is to remake some old units that are so old they don't even have legends rules it's hard to REALLY make something unique because there aren't ways to manipulate the base stats.

I couldn't make a Librarian Dreadnaught
I couldn't make a giant floating golden women Imperial Saint daemon prince analogue
I couldn't make a Psyker Chaos Knight
I couldn't make a gun-fu cypher analogue in marines
I couldn't make a dual blades Blackshield deathwatch marine
I couldn't make an Inquisitor in terminator armor with a big thunder hammer

And when you look at the options there is usually only one thing you can take for that character, so there is no choices to be made really meaning the characters aren't exactly custom.
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>>97546534
They are legal for matched play, as long as both players agree. Just like legends, which are legal for matched play. As long as both players agree.
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>>97546551
Anon, I believe the suggestion was made in a Warcom article so there’s probably a paragraph about it in a missing page.
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>>97546521
best part is that they dont define what a model is supposed to be, like the marine dreadnought doesnt state it MUST be a redemptor, you can legally field a boxnaut, give it similar weapons and call it a day

fuck I might even field a dreadnought as the CSM helstalker thing, it's similar in profile and I can give it lots of guns
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>>97546557
>Just like legends, which are legal for matched play. As long as both players agree.
I can barely get the people at my lgs to agree to take a fucking shower. It matters little.
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>>97545409
>no power fist option for custodes
fuck i was hoping this guy would become legal
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>>97545409
Looks like I can put some Tau guns on my donut steel Kroot too. Wish he had options for eq from other races again
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>>97546575
Love that model king, really badass
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>>97546582
fuck off
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>>97546533
Retard
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>>97546582
Kill yourself
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>>97546554
Brightlance + Storm is an illegal loadout.
Your options are
>1 Ranged Weapon (Storm)
Or
>Up to 4 Ghost Warrior Ranged Weapons (Marked by *, cannot have more than two ± weapons)
Would almost guarantee it's to stop Wraithlords from just having the extra Storm at will.
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>>97546581
What is this, a picture for ants?
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>>97546605
>(6.3 MB, 4572x3304)
anon...
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>>97546592
Addendum*
You CAN still run upto two Shuriken Pistols or Fusion Pistols with Storm, as Pistols are counted separate from normal Ranged Weapons. Running two Pistols, plus Fists and Glaive, plus Storm, would increase the cost to 175 though, as the first two weapons are free and each subsequent weapon is +5 points.
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>>97546612
NTA but ghost warrior profile states it can have 1 ranged weapon OR 4 GHOST WARRIOR ONLY weapons
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>>97546592
Sad. Thanks. It's kind of messed up they don't get WS 3+, meaning regular non character wraithlords often have better WS/BS for significantly less cost. I also messed up the PV. The extra 2 ranged weapons brings a total of 5 weapons (ghostglaive, 2 brightlances, 2 flamers I guess instead of storm) which is +15 points for total of +35 points over a wraithlord for a worse unit. I wish the base cost was 140 and if you brought ghost warrior weapons it was +15 points per AND the WS/BS was 3+ so they aren't just strictly worse than regular Wraithlords.
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>>97546564
The oldnaught I have has the fist and flamers and twin lascannons, I’m tempted to build a small force around him. The Dreadnought arms are technically dryfit to pose them, in theory you could mix and match the new versions too to make a Dreanought character.
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>>97546589
Forgive me a moment of hope for a better world.
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>>97546632
You're a troglodyte who believes anything anybody tells you
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>>97546625
>The extra 2 ranged weapons brings a total of 5 weapons (ghostglaive, 2 brightlances, 2 flamers I guess instead of storm) which is +15 points for total of +35 points over a wraithlord for a worse unit
Actually it's slightly better, outside the Ghostglaive. The Brightlances hit on 2+ instead of 4+, and it has the Psyker keyword to boost other nearby Wraiths. Then you can pick to either give it permanent Cover or have everything +1 to Hit, offsetting Stealth against the Lances and getting the Glaive to native 3+ to hit.
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>>97546649
Oh and instead of picking ine unit type to reroll 1s against, Ghost Warrior rerolls 1s against all types.
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>>97546582
You have been instructed numerous times to not reply to me. Replying to this post constitutes felony internet harassment. Do not reply to me again.
Enjoy prison, slopper.
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>>97546521
>>All characters have to be WYSIWYG and use appropriate base sizes and can't be modelled with a model from another faction

So my >>97545702 Night Lord wouldnt work because I used the Raven Guard model as a kitbash base?
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>>97546728
You can read the rules in the pic you responded to but RAW no. But I think that's obviously not meant to apply to space marines/chaos space marines because in their Warcom article the SHOWED a kitbashed loyalist character (iron Hands) as a chaos character (iron warriors).
It's all handshake agreement rules for casual play anyway so don't sweat it too much.
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>>97546521
But Corsairs can be both dark eldar and eldar, they all use the aeldari word. I can't use kabalite and corsair bits to make a corsair prince?
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>>97546728
Yes it would, read the actual picture
the anon is misrepresenting almost everything and lying about everything else
There's nothing mentioned in that about not being allowed in matched play, same with the warcom article
and the statement about it "being represented by a suitable model" just means you can't take a guard commissar and say it's your chapter master in terminator armor
even the wysiwyg statement is false, it says IDEALLY, not MUST
the closest to wysiwyg is the specialisms saying if you give your champ a jump pack he should have a jump pack on the model
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>>97546575
The only specialization for the custode is terminator armor or a shield
>no really unique weapon options it's just gonna be guys out of the kit
So lame.
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>>97546728
What's James going to do, run your model through a spectrometer? Any opponent who enforces that is a sperg or redshirt who isn't worth playing against. As long as the model is wizzywig and on vaguely the right base it's fine.
Sweet model and you're one of my favourite painters here btw
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>>97546735
I don't think anyone will care if a corsair model is from either or both eldar lines
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>>97546735
>But Corsairs can be both dark eldar and eldar, they all use the aeldari word. I can't use kabalite and corsair bits to make a corsair prince?
>>97546746
>and the statement about it "being represented by a suitable model" just means you can't take a guard commissar and say it's your chapter master in terminator armor
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>>97546380
>tau
You're a secondary
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>>97546734
>>97546746
I see now, I understand, thanks.

>>97546753
Yeah my lgs is full of super chill guys. I think I could run a cardboard cutout on a stand and people would still be like "Sure ill play." So I'm not really worried. And thanks anon, always appreciate the compliments.
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>>97546521
>All characters have to be WYSIWYG and use appropriate base sizes and can't be modelled with a model from another faction

Meanwhile, what it actually says
>Each weapon equipped by your Crucible Champion should IDEALLY be represented on the model in some way
>Specialisms should be represented on the mode, WHERE APPROPRIATE.
>To allow creativity, THESE RULES ARE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION
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>>97546793
lets be real here, if you're not accurately representing your gear (or as close as possible) then you're a bitchass faggot and i'm gonna say no to allowing custom characters in the game, as they require both players saying yes to be fielded
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>>97546805
Faggot
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>>97546235
Give all three of them dual injector pistols and precision everything. Give one the ability that grants all weapons Lethal Hits on 5+.
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>>97546805
you don't play, or own any models whatsoever
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>>97546812
heres my AL fighting some TS

post models.
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>>97546816
Neat, you gonna finish painting any of them? Or post something from this tabletop and not HH?
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>>97546816
Lmao are those dipped in car metallic paint
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>>97546805
based
painting and correctly modeling your models should be the minimum standard
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>>97546554
>I couldn't make a Librarian Dreadnaught
I mean, this is 10th edition. There are no psykers, for any faction.
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>>97546816
holy shit those are some GLOSSY tsons
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>>97546820
>he says, posting an unfinished primarislop model
and I use the army in both
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>>97546816
>no basing
-10vp
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>>97546831
>and I use the army in both
ah, so you're so lazy that you use them in both games AND don't finish them or even base them
amazing
you truly are the paragon of the requirements for modeling your own custom characters
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>>97546836
>t. seething

you have yet to post a painted model
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>>97546235
Make all three of them terminators. Choose the following three abilities:
Lethal hits and crits on 5+, sustained hits 1 and lance, command phase rez one bodyguard model.
Give all of them two injector pistols and a manreaper.
155 points.
Attach to Deathshroud.
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Who got the best crucible character options?
Who got the worst?
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>>97546844
>seething
don't project
spend less time arguing online and more time finishing your models
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>>97546860
Eldar
Custodes
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>>97546793
>>97546805
Do people actually complain when told models should look like what they represent with as few proxies as possible?
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this is now going to devolve into both of them insulting their models isn't it
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>>97546861
>posts more primarislop

besides I think you may have misunderstood me, i'm not saying anon with his cinverted nightlords jumplord cant be used, i'm saying that if someone shows up with a model that isn't kitbashed, and they say it's actually a custom character with certain wargear, I know that they're playing for rules and/or too lazy to kitbash and thus i'll say no
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>>97546554
BAngles have a psychic dread option
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My drive to finish him is renewed.
>Sorcerous Champion
>Daemon Host
>Prescience
>Infernal Gaze
>Exalted Weapon
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>>97546883
>weakly seething about primaris because you can't do anything else
I accept your concession
finish those models bud
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>>97546890
address the point made
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>>97546885
I don't play bangles, I play MARINES
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>>97546831
is that gun in plastic or resin
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>>97546903
Make a furioso boxnought with 2 fists, 4 bolt rifles, 2 multi meltas and 2 heavy stubbers.
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>>97546905
plastic, standard tigrus boltgun from the MK4 kit
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>>97546910
you need bitcoin in order to afford a mech cum army.
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>>97545409
Technovirus injector not being restricted to soul forge tyrant feels like a mistake (considering the magma cutter is) but it sounds funny and fun
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>>97545409
>battlesuit characters locked out of all melee weapons besides CCW
They couldn't even give em the fist thing back?
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EC have some busted fucking combos in these crucible rules
There's probably a lot more I'm not seeing for other factions too
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>>97546997
its a stealthsuit or broadside anyway, just slap railguns on it
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>>97545463
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It should be written as T'au.
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>>97547018
It should be written as YOU BLOODY BASTARD YOU
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>>97547008
Mind posting their pages? Can't access drive right now.
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Everyone who clicked kn that drive has been doxxed
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>>97545409
Wait so i can only make a custom Ophydian? Not a Skorpek or Lokhust?
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>>97547044
really? post
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>>97547045
You can, you just couldn't attach them to any units and would have to treat them like a solo character. For whatever reason, every faction is limited to only three templates to work from so very large and diverse ranges like necrons end up with tons of corner cases they can't satisfy. It looks like they mostly erred on the side of giving options where an existing generic does not already exist.
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>>97547031
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>>97547031
>>97547057
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>>97547055
2/3 of the sisters options are already generic options. It's good they added a generic paragon ace character, but not having a generic saint or generic floating pope-mobile character is a waste.
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>>97547061
That the regular whip has extra attacks but Lucius's extra special whip doesn't feels wrong.
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God space marines are such fucking bullshit man every army is run and charge and every model has 5 attacks with AP 2 and they’re all hitting on 2s and lethals on 5s while their tanks sit in the back and hit on 2s and wound on 3s and get to reroll hits wound and damage fuck space marines man I’m trying to be fun and flavorful and play soulforged warpack in crusade and get getting run over by ezmode xp farming space marines
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>Upstart Gretchin with CCW and Attack Squig
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>>97547055
Idk i've personally never felt the need for a custom Triarch Stalker, on top of being an ungodly expensive and involved build (because I'd need to sacrifice an entire fucking Stalker which isn't exactly the most flexible of models).
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>>97547091
Wait til you see custodes. They do all that except they actually do hit on 2s and every unit has a 2+/4++ minimum.
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>>97545736
I have returned from helping granny to resume painting and finish this mini
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>>97547061
>>97547057
>80 point Champion of Excess gives 3 extra attacks and 1 extra AP to melee weapons
>Can equip both Blissblade and Rapture lash for 7 attacks at 6 -4 2 and 7 attacks at 4 -2 1
>Can also get +1 to wound for 10 extra points or lethal hits for free
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>>97547013
I think he asked for 1, not 3.
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Techmarine on 'bike'=Kataphron Treads+Iron Father.
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>>97545409

>Only 2 character bases when most factions have 3
>None of the infantry special or heavy guns like blasters, shredders, dark lances, splinter cannons, heat lances, haywire blasters, hexrifles, ossefactors, or liquefiers in weapon options even though they used be usable by characters
>No Archon or Corsair character to make Duke Sliscus or a generic pirate lord
>No Mandrake character to make Kheradruakh or a generic mandrake prince
>No Raider character to make Vect or a generic flagship captain

I mean, it's neat but they could have done a lot more with just a few little changes
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>>97545399
Why the fuck is their selection of weapons so particularly dismal? This is awful.
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>>97547170
Don't worry, GW will release the Dark Eldar codex early with a fully revamped Crucible selection in early 2027
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Wait they remade OG (much better) Kill Team essentially as a vidya tie in in Space Marine Operations? Idk how to feel about this.

Also is it any good?
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>>97547170
>entire codex written around 3 pillars, wracks, wytch cults and kabalites
>dont make 3 characters evoking the 3 pillars of the army

...HUH!?
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>>97547183
It's meant to be compatible with 11th edition and they're removing a lot of their weird weapons when they refresh all the models so they don't have six different guns per unit anymore.
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The CoC pages for necrons is really speaking to my impulse-buyer, bros.
>flayer virus lord
>deathmark cryptek
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>>97547197
lol, makes sense for the three-pronged faction to only get two. There's even tons of extra space left on that page too. Hilarious. Did anyone else only get two or this just another extra fuck you to DE from GW?
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>Did anyone else only get two or this just another extra fuck you to DE from GW?
Just checked.
It's just Dark Eldar. Even Agents of the Imperium got 3. Even Custodes and Grey Knights got 3.
Even Chaos Demons, who don't have a codex, got 3.

Only Dark Eldar have 2, for some reason.
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Well, I think I made a minor fuckup with my thousand sons by airbrushing on the panel color instead of the trim color.
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>exalted sorcerer
>disc
>reaper soulcannon
>sustained hits ability
I wasn't expecting Tzeentchian drive-bys to be on the menu with this one.
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Whoever makes the new thread be sure to link the Crucible Character rules in the OP
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>>97547274
and remove the rentry link while you're at it since its dead
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Pirate models need more eye patches and peg legs
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>>97547208
Meanwhile Thousand Sons gets three, and two of them are for tzaangors.
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>>97547297
Should have gotten more options for tzaangors imo
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>>97547306
trying too hard
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>>97547297
I like tzaangors, they're what got me to start the army :D
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Baking fresh bread on page 1
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>>97545409
>Front-Line Commander is literally just a Castellan that can be attached to non-Cadian stuff too
Died 2025, Born 2026. Welcome back Death Korps Marshal.
>No Deff Dread character
Shit, guess I'm just gonna proxy my Warboss Deff Dread as Ghazz then.



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