Its been pretty noticable and cringe. They all sound like a needy girlfriend trying to get Games Workshops attention by threatening to glaze another corporate entity why also expecting the fanbase of an IP older than Warhammer to suck their dicks and thank them for daring to cast a divine gaze upon their direction.They just look like middle aged slobs embarrassed to be dabbling in "weebshit" to chase the algorithm. But what set them all off to do it en masse recently? just the upcoming Gundam miniatures game?
Gundam is cooler.
>>97553310Basically it seems if Louise Sugden does it the older uncs who are less hip to what the kids like will follow her lead. Its that or quickly hit a ceiling and die off like The Painting Phase did.
>>97553310Kys, nogaems.
>>97553310Is there actually more than 2 examples of this or are you just schizoing out at nothing?> just the upcoming Gundam miniatures game?that sounds extremely logical, yeah. AFAIK most gunpla kits come colored so they dont' need to be painted. If the parent company were to put out a wargame with uncolored plastic mini's, it would make sense people already making paint tutorial content shit would want to jump ahead of the hype train to make sure any new gundam people click on their shit first.
>>97553310Because GW is too expensive and they lack the balls to do anything that isn't tied to some massive IP
>>97553392Duncan, Suggz, Peachy, basically anyone who didn't go down the TOW rabbit hole.
What if, and bear with me here, people enjoyed making models of more than one thing?
>>97553310>haha wow this is so much cheaper than warhammer>not that I'm gonna stop buying GW products haha>oh wow these runner frames are so much better than what GW sells>not that I'm gonna stop buying GW products haha>I'm wondering why I've wasted my life on these plastic army men instead of building cool as fuck robots>not that I'm gonna stop buying GW products haha>you should totally check out some gunpla they're really accessible and easy to get into>not that you shouldn't buy more GW products haha>I might actually go check out some of this anny-may stuff after this>not that I'm gonna stop talking about GW products haha
>>97553423You're a voice of reason but your efforts are wasted. OP is a zoomoid NPC. His entire being is molded by socials. He can only think in culture war issues, engagement and ragebait. You can not get through to him for he lacks soul.
>>97553325Painting Phase died off because they managed to annoy and chase off Peachy, one of the most chill guys in the industry.The final nail in the coffin was when they kissed the arse of that competition painter that loudly and proudly said they used AI to make their miniature backdrops, and that everyone calling them out for it were talentless incels.
>>97553310Gundam had its Primaris moment way before most of /tg/ was out of diapers. I fully expect everyone involved to lose interest once they get past Char's Counterattack and everything becomes super robots.
>>97553431>gaydum capeshit>cool as fuck robotsThis is what the AGP actually believes
>>97553310I’ve bought some gunpla a while ago before seeing this thread.Granted I was gifted a gunpla kit at like twelve years old and didn’t build it because I was afraid of cutting myself and then I made the connection of 40k plastic assembly and dug up the old gunpla kit but decided to buy a new kit to git gud so I don’t mess it up.Then I see this thread.Bros am I part of the normies?Is a normie who knows he is a normie still a normie?
I dunno but it pisses me off to rabies at the mouth levels.Wanted to get back into trading card games, then boom, scalpers fucking galore.Old games, almost impossible these days.Finally started building model kits in the past three years and then youtube started inundated me with random fucking videos of warhammer dorks(something I have no interests in) with titles like "CHEAPER AND BETTER THAN GWS MINIS???", and I could hear the bell toll.
People are barking at you OP, but I've seen the exact same thing too and it has been going on for at least a year by now
>>97553310I got my first white dwarf in '94 and was in the deep end of 40k for years and years.Bought my first Gundam kit a few years ago and was amazed with the quality and how fun it was to build. It was like Warhammer and Lego at the same time.You don't have to buy 100 gundam kits, but it's fun to build a few coming from Warhammer.The more advanced kits like the perfect grade ones are highly detailed and intricate builds. It's fun to build and see the bits come to life from the inner frame to the details outside.
Seeing warhammer whales cum their pants over gunpla is like watching a starving man think a chicken mcnugget is the best thing ever And that's not a good analogy. Because I wouldn't mind giving a starving man a big mac. It's more like a fat fuck eyeing your food. Seeing the shit you thought was normal with warhammer, I rather you not leave that containment zone.
>>97553310Do you wanna know, or just complain that people are trying new things?If you want to, it's several reasons. In the last years, the hobby aspect of WH has been going down the drain mainly due to prices, and a lot of WH players (that like dnd, only interact with WH, and not other games, companies, etc, so they live in a plato's cave situation) have been forced to look elsewhere, and gunpla has catched a lot of people's attention.Gunpla is MUCH cheaper than warhammer, the model Duncan painted in his video is arround 10 bucks, most gunpla models cost 15-30 bucks, and they have a lot more sprues inside, so you get more for your money. On a techincal level, gunpla models are much better designed that WH, both the sprue's layout and how stuff is build (having less seam lines and mould lines), and as a neat extra, they don't require glue or paint.Speaking of this, gunpla also has a much wider skill range and options, you can snapbuild a kit in an evening and it will look quite well, can't do the same with a WH kit, but you can paint it, panel line it, add decals and whatever you want, it gives options for more casual builders and the ones who want to work on a kit.1/2
>>97554051While I haven't seen it mentioned a lot, gunpla is also much more customizable compared to WH, thanks to having much more standarized joints, structure, sizes and connections among models, and bandai actively encourages you to make your own (they even sell smaller kits for customizing with stuff like weapons, backpacks, accesories, etc, and have an spin off anime series all about the hobby with a heavy focus on making your own robot. Even among other companies such as Kotobukiya or Aoshima, there's a sorta unnofficial standard for making models, so it very easy to use 3rd party stuff in your gundam kits, with minimal or no conversion required.Gundam also has a lot of designs, even if there's usually some patterns (v-fin, 2 eyes on gundams, monoeyes for the antagonists, an usual loadout of sword, shield and rifle...), there's a lot of variety, specially on modern series, just compare how stuff from G-Reco. IBO, WFM and gquuuuux look.Add to this the upcoming tabletop game, and a lot of people are looking towards gundam as an alternative, I haven't build any of those models, I've seen some videos and second hand opinions, and they seem to be great to build and paint, my main worry is how much they will cost.2/2
>>97554051>>97554054It's obviously just a GW cocksucker crying about youtubers bringing attention to other parts of the modelling hobby since it threatens his god corporation's bottom line.
>>97553396>didn't go down the TOW rabbit holeBut Duncan did go down that hole. Some of his most successful videos are TOW videos
Whilst we're having an eceleb sesh, I'm not like "an influencer" but I know people in the Lead Belt scene, and Avatars of War are being really weird and keep following and unfollowing me on social media.
>>97553392>AFAIK most gunpla kits come colored so they dont' need to be painted.Only snapshitters leave gunpla unpainted
>>97553431Always this and apologizing endlessly that they don't hate James or something and will ofcourse keep doing Warhammer. There is the overlap of both being plastic models but it's not even close to being the same hobby for the rest.
>>97553826>didn’t build it because I was afraid of cutting myselfYou always were part of the normies.
One thing I wish there was more of, is kind of shared knowledge between wargame miniature painting, diorama painting, gunpla, scale modelling, model railways.They're using tricks and tools we're just not
>>97554152Agreed, there's a lot of overlap for obvious reasons, but techniques are rarely shared. Only recently I've been seeing miniature painters use enamels and oil washes. Scale modeling still uses a lot of old fashioned techniques and materials, like not using acrylics, etcI've been getting into all of this other hobbies recently (coming from miniatures), and I've learned a LOT in both directions.
>>97553310BBC assessed Japanese Gundams are actual threat to their Plastic toy crack.
>>97554152That is a you issue, there is nothing stopping you from going to the scale model or gunpla threads on /toy and /m. That is a lot of info available in 4chan alone, imagine what you can find on the rest of the internet
Gunpla is cheaper by orders of magnitude, can be more entertaining to build and paint, and there are a few homebrew tabletop systems to actually use them to play with.
Im honestly curious what terrain for gundam/mecha games look like. I kinda build a table around them.
>>97554459>/toy>/m
>>97553728>Acting as if G Gundam wasn't PEAK>>97553826Anon, basically every great visual media franchise you can name exists because of a Nerd somewhere tinkering with Models.>>97554054>and have an spin off anime series all about the hobby with a heavy focus on making your own robotWhich has some awesome music too!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVqEPtl-Qq8>>97554095>Only snapshitters leave gunpla unpaintedStill better than Marine Players.
>>97553731>look guys!>I'm fitting in!
>>97554638why does it sound like shpongle
they will never compare to meli my queen
>>97553310Honestly, imagine if 40k and other settings were as loose with their IP biblical canon as GundamYou have the original UC, and it's a fairly consistent timeline with shitloads of events to cover, but there's shitloads of side-canons from Wing to G Gundam to IBO, and all the SEEDshit in between.You can keep the lightning in your original bottle, just don't make any multiverse shit and the lid stays on. Hell, even Star Wars does this, keeping the KOTOR series sealed in its own little time bubble long before the movies.40k could do this exact same thing, and just let people make their own side shit while keeping it hermetically sealed from the actual timeline of what's going on.People want their noblebright 40k? You could give the Tau a halo-style backstory, where they were fairly advanced 25,000 years ago, and on good terms with the pre-Emperor, pre-Chaos humanity, but then when the Eye of Terror opened, everything went to shit, and they ended up bombing themselves back into the stone age as warp manifestations and daemon possession drove their entire civilization into a madness-infused caste war.That's the thing you could offer, the thing with unique appeal. Yeah, we have a noble Star Trek/Mass Effect version of the setting, where humanity is Boldy Going for the first time, meeting Eldar and shooting Orks for the first time, hanging out with weird aliens they would later go on to exterminate, tens of thousands of years later. You have a noble setting, that is absolutely going to crash and burn in a well-documented way in the near future.
People like more than one thing and YouTubers can cover many topics.
Is it really something that's happening or just a small coincidence?I'm not into GW or gunpla, but I had a gundam phase and still find it really ineresting how weird and unique Tomino's shows are. Or just Tomino by himselfl, the dude is great. As a joke I ran a soap opera system in UC (it went way too well in terms of system meeting the plot) and I had some people interested/commenting later on that had weird missconceptions about Gundam. Like someone who only knows about Transformers from random panels of the UK comic. It would make sense if they were wargame people half remembering some youtube video form a poser.
>>97553826what does it feel to be more of a poser normie than some camwhore on youtube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-A2PgBb4YU
>>97554840I want to think there's a difference in mediums going on.Gundam was a bit dead as an IP for a while, not closed down but barely surviving for something that had more merch than Star Wars while barely leaving Japan. And then it blew back up bigger than ever when they decided that certain stories and settings go to videogames, UC is high budget OVAs, long tv series are usually stand alone settings with a plot that closes like a lid, if they want to revive an aspect of the IP it first gets a manga run to test interest at the lowest price, and so on. Meanwhile GW does have multiple fronts, but they aren't as compatible as anime-manga-vifdja. No one cares about the novels, the competitive game doesn't connect with most aspects outside of gameplay, the minis are limited to what the competitive game is promoting. It's just choking itself to dead and not even fapping while doing it.
>>97554638Fuck off ND
>>97553731>>gaydum capeshitIsn't 40k more capeshit than Gundam?
>>97553423Bandai's also made a big push to expand their western Gunpla market over the last 10/15 years, so it makes sense people who are already into sci-fi/fantasy models are giving it a go now
>>97556403it is. nowadays its complete super hero primarch slop
What's Bandai's secret to making such perfect plastic kits? GW can't even make snap-shit that fits together without filing and cutting.
>>97556508Decades of experience and always trying to move technology foward in all aspects relating to plastic models. GW has only improved in microinjection in the last 20 years.
>>97554840The thing with Gundam is that the 'fluff' side of it's always been kind of divorced from the 'product' side of it. The guys making the anime can do basically whatever so long as they succeed in convincing people to buy the model kits. "Brand new setting? Sure, just make sure the main robot gets to do something cool every week." It's also long been the case that Gundam fans will gladly buy models based on shows which ended years (or even decades) ago. Like how, since 1990, I don't think they've managed to go a full 5 years without releasing a new kit of the original Gundam, when that show ended in 1980. Or earlier this month when a new round of kits were announced, including new models for Gundam X (1996) and SEED Destiny (2004). Bandai are a lot less concerned about brand synergy in that way, compared to something like 40K, where everything currently sold has to be in alignment with the overall vision of the IP as it exists right now, and that IP has to be kept as coherent as possible for the sake of recognisability and a fear of confusing the customers
>>97556521Bandai-sama, I bow in respect...
I only ever watched like 3 episodes of Gundam but I always thought these guys where pretty neat, can anyone recommend me a good noob friendly kit?
>>97556682Any High Grade (marked with "HG" on the box, like picrel) is a good option, even 20 year old kits are decent enough.If you can get picrel, get it's an amazing kit for the zaku.
Isn’t this just to advertise gundam breaking more into tabletop games
>>97556707thanks I will take a look
>>97556586>Bandai-sama, I bow in respect...Honestly people have been complaining that they're not pushing the envelope anymore; Like five years ago they were doing shit like Perfect Grade Inner Frames bits with integrated joints ON the Runners.
>>97553310>But what set them all off to do it en masse recently? just the upcoming Gundam miniatures game?Anime is cooler. Warhammer is popular and big but the views are very low. So tabletop plus hardcore Gundam fans could mean you get your first foot into this franchise. Everyone just wants to be the first one.
>>97553325>>97553648What happened with Peachy and Painting Phase?
>>97557483>Anime is coolerAGP moment
>>97557601Yeah bruv, no trannies in the Warhammer fanbase, everyone knows that.
>>97556721Most of the warhammer youtubers who have done videos on gunpla haven't really talked about the gundam wargame. I've only seen one guy do a painting/basing video for the new gundam game and he's not even a warhammerfag.
>>97554840>Honestly, imagine if 40k and other settings were as loose with their IP biblical canon as GundamCan you imagine death toll? Imperiumfans nearly died of aneurism when GW tried to rewrite Damocle Crusade back in 6th edition.>>97556319>but barely surviving>GundamDude touch grass.
>>97557601Whats an AGP moment?
>>97557849On the internet, nobody can tell you're a horse.
>>97553310Rats fleeing the sinking ship
>>97553310>Why do these people who make content about model kits and miniatures games make content about a a gigantic model kit brand that has a miniatures game launching in marchI fucking wonder.
>>97559294My thoughts exactly.
>>97559294What you're having right now, sis
>>97559294Probably some discord >>97557601 got kicked out of because it's too anime.
>>97553310You get to build an articulated 30cm robot for half the price of a space marine captain.
>>97556319>while barely leaving East AsiaFixed. One really wonders how it can sustain itself when it's barely present outside of the most populous zone of human habitation, yes.
>>97554152Wasn't this a thing in the Build Fighters manga? One of the secrets to how the Meijin became so good at Gunpla was that he left his bubble and checked out what the other scenes were doing.
>>97565544I mean he also had a Catgirl Maid...
>>97553826warhammer is a normie hobby too, who gives a shit
>>97554095The kits look plenty cool unpainted.Also keeping them unpainted lets you handle the figures more easily without needing to worry you'll chip the paint.
>>97553431I would forgive this behavior if it were just about not being knowledgeable enough about gundam to feel comfortable making regular videos about it and building kits from series they know nothing about... But it's always just that these faggots are permanent paypigs and they feel humiliated by the fact that other model building hobbies exist for a fraction of what they pay to be a warhammer content creator, to promote a hobby they don't enjoy, for a company that hates them.
>>97558290>Dude touch grass.I don't know what you mean.Gundam had a clear weak decade in the 00's and then came back stronger than ever.
