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Gods & monsters edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>97553669

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question:
With the newer tomes regaining some flavourful rules, how would you write the battle traits for your army to be flavourful and fun?
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>>97561562
I just hope the chariots are playable, they look fun to paint
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>>97561562
I like the Sneaky Slicers, even if they look like knockoff Dark Eldar Mandrakes... The Blockheads, not so much.
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>>97561594
They're going to look better when they're painted as wearing flayed bloody skin or ethereal stuff like a nighthaunt
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>>97561594
I love the blockheads.
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>>97561562
>>97561594
I never "got" the Ossiarchs. Bone-constructs with somewhat Egyptian but not-Khemri and Asiatic influences?
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>>97561638
there is very little egyptian in them.
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Are persians really not that recognizable.
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>>97561594
blockheads are propably legends anyway
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>>97561638
They are supposed to have every ancient civilisation aspects to them, since thier theam as stated by GW is "cradle of civilisation".
Their also a play on teracota soldiers
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so the obr battletome will leak by tuesday?
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>>97561645
And most that is is just Nagash refrences
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>>97561638
I'd say their overarching design is "Empire" rather than a specific culture. They take influences from several cultures, but they key is that they are from cultures with a structured army, usually empires.
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>>97561638
>I never "got" the Ossiarchs.
it's tomb kings, but reinvented around nagash, and some very desperate attempts to look like barlowe's inferno
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Nanomaggots, son !
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should i play FEC?
they look cool yeah
which spearhead will give me more insight into their playstyle? what is their playstyle anyways?
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shitting and praying in hopes that sylvaneth will get the obvious treelord AOR and it doesnt need me to buy a fuck ton of their faction terrain to make it good.
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>>97561652
Persians? Hedonites have Persian and Arab influence.

There is neither Egyptian nor Persian style to OBR.
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>>97561594
>The Blockheads, not so much.
The idea is pretty cool but executed somewhat awkwardly. It looks like the tomb thingies are kind of clumsily shoved into a mortek instead of specifically molded around it like it's probably supposed to. May be one of those models that just looks better in person though.
>>97561645
The oval cartouche thing is very egyptian to be fair.
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>>97561562
so they have 3 eyes, but one is covered? who came up with this shit?
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>>97561556
>gods and monsters
>look inside
>4 gods and a demi-god
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>>97561760
Its a play on the fact that when you aim you usually close one eye and only look through the other to increase precision and avoid double images.
As such these are all created with their eyes on the same side to enhance that.
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Is Celestant Prime a match for Archaon or does it take Sigmar to fight him on even ground?
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>>97561854
Archaon Is pretty fairly matched with Siggy, so I doubt Prime would be able to handle him

Then again, Katakros put up a good fight, so I dunno.
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>>97561854
Takes Sigmar to fight him.
Archaon is essentially equal to an incarnate God (so Alarielle, Nagash, Teclis, Tyrion, definitely Morathi (lol whore), etc). Some of the BL stuff seems to indicate that even some of the old gods, like Grugni, are weaker than gods like Nagash, so Archaon could slaughter him too.
He might not be able to kill GorkaMorka
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>>97561807
But that's stupid. That would still cause double-images, they'd just be vertically rather than horizontally overlayed. Also, you need both your eyes for depth perception, something that archers would probably need. These models are stupid and I don't like them.
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>>97561911
Ok don't buy them
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>>97561914
I won't.
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>>97561854
Archaon can apparently go toe to toe with the chaos gods (sort of) so yeah he can probably pretty handily take on the Celestant Prime.
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>>97561556
>tq
>seraphon
Thankfully our tome didn't fall into the shitty first half of the edition, so it'll actually have some thought put into it. I actually quite like the old ones asterism sidequest thing, though it could be expanded on a bit. I'd also like some formations that are more interesting than "buff skinks/saurus/monsters", like something that encourages a mix.
>>97561911
>Also, you need both your eyes for depth perception
Well they got two don't they? And then the extra one on top for seeing spiritual shit or whatever it was.
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>>97561986
Accurate
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>>97561854
>>97561910
it's wildly inconsistent and pretty much madness to compare anything with gw's writing. That being said, Celestant Prime is more of a mortarch level and Archaon is probably the most inconsistent AoS character. One story he's wrestling with sigmar hand to hand across the cosmos and the next he's afraid to take on Nagash without zerging him first with chumps. I doubt celestant prime would ever be written to take Archaon down.

>>97561581
My baseless, bold predictions
>Archers will be great but for some reason much like OBR's past history they'll have a premium cost vs other archers like sentinels.
>The rest of the new stuff will be pretty much junk.
>Katakros will still be a must take part of the army.
>Kavalos will be nerfed in some way.
>Harvester still a trap.
>The best strategy will still involve taking reinforced hammers, probably morghasts again.

Hope I'm wrong.
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>>97561986
other way around

the dryad herself is forgettable
the podling elf is a striking image
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>>97561986
I stand by the fact that this model is less busy than a treelord. Hell it’s less busy than anything that got revealed for 40k recently.
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>>97562053
Depends on what exactly you mean by busy I suppose. There's a lot going on, but you can still clearly make out everything. Compared to say Trugg which also has a bunch of stuff going on, but it all kind of blends of together.
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>>97562108
You do not like the new grove guardian? Why?
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>>97562156
I think you misunderstand me, I think she's fine. Busy in the sense that there's a lot of different things going in, but presented in such a way that you can still easily make out all the different elements without them all getting blended together and thus lost. Though I will say it's a bit too much of a diorama rather than a game piece. I assume she's unique? Because if not you'll need to do some serious converting lest you end up with two identical models. The warsong revenant kind of has that problem.
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>>97561562
I quite like them.
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>>97561986
It's too busy.
If I nab one I'd probably do something like this to have a neat tree and a neat dryad instead of a big figure with no focal point
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>>97554400
I think the worst battletome covers were the ones with the weird backrounds like this one, looks terrible.
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>>97562207
the model as is absolutely has focal point, it's the dryad's face and chest. The tree part flows naturally up into her torso and the head is framed by the big headdress
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>>97562207
Somehow, you made it lewd with that big flower.
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>>97562207
Lotus idea is pretty kino
>>97562448
>were
Anon...
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>>97562471
That stupid thing dangling at it's crotch draws more attention than the face.
It's really poorly designed.
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>>97561986
I'd get rid of the revenant for sure. I feel like it clashes and distracts from the tree spirit part, at the bare minimum make it a Spitey instead.
In fact it's kinda fucked up in a way, a bit like a pregnant woman out on the battlefield with that (re)growing revenant there.
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They're the next reveal, you know. James told me.
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>>97561986
(You)
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>>97561854
Nobody is a match for Archaon
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>>97562539
Starting to think this is a shitpost.
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>>97562539
>James told me.
I'm sure he did, anon. That's nice. Now back to bed with you.
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Shadow Aelves and Malerion will never be a thing because of the Malekith copyright conflict.
Dark Elves will never be in the old world
Dark Eldar will keep having their range soft squatted until they're gone

Fuck all kinds of dark elves.
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>>97561594
>>97561562
>literally have tombstones for heads
How does GW manage to take a concept like "bone golems created by hunting down skeletons and melting them into new forms for evil spirits to manipulate" and turn it into something retarded.
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>>97561638
The giant ones with four heads are cool.
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>>97562656
Those are chests retard. They are servant cast meant to carry shit for the wizard
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>>97561986
The bottom part could have been optional basing or terrain.

I find a lot of Age of Sigmar stuff >>97561556
Looks cool on paper but then >>97561594
gw horribly fucks up the execution.

It's like in someone's head this is an epic to rival Beowulf or Gilgamesh or Lord of the Rings and then the practical application becomes the cartoony parts of world of warcraft or maplestory.
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>>97561854
Archaon will become the Dark King in Age of Sigmar 8th edition
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Now that the dust has settled, why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?
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>>97562713
People like the idea of the HoH moreso than the actual models.
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>>97561854
Not even close. He is far weaker than Morathi who is probably weaker than Archeon
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>>97562648
Fuck you. Delf supremacy will never die
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>>97562713
It was funny at first but unironically why haven't these sold. It feels like they released so long ago and these are fomo boxes.
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>>97562757
That screenshot is months old
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>>97562780
He’s samefagging, ignore it.
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>>97562780
Nah. I take these right before I post.
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>>97561581
That'd be a pleasant surprise.
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>>97562648
>Shadow Aelves and Malerion will never be a thing because of the Malekith copyright conflict.
>shadow aelves will never be a thing
>
Also why the fuck would marvel holding the copyright for malekith matter for malerion? Hell the total war games never even bothered making the switch and they got away with it.
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>>97562803
The real reason is that dark elves are going back to TOW.
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>>97562803
Not a fan of the witch blades or whatever they are called because the masks look like shit, but I really like how they look here.
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>>97562757
Because these just list literally every single one of these boxes available in some random store anywhere in the world. You can try the app for yourself and see, it works for basically every limited edition product. Picrel is crux terminatus, the space marine terminator army box that everyone complained sold out way too fast. Yet you can find a couple dozen boxes in random stores! Guess fucking space marines are flopping now too. You can try the same thing with other boxes that basically immediately sold out, like the tow marauder reinforcement set or what have you.
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>>97562859
>forgot the actual pic
My fault for even engaging with the flopposter in the first place.
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>>97562859
>>97562867
Crux Terminatus did flop. It's available all over in third party store. As are many of the other Christmas battleforces.
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Naiads's for idk when
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>>97562877
Floppie if literally every single limited box flops according to your third worlder app maybe your metric is kind of retarded.
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>Kurnothifags want to play Sylvaneth, but they don't want to play Sylvaneth using Sylvaneth models or rules
>Malerionfags want to play WHFB-style dark elves, but they don't want to play either of the armies that literally use WHFB's dark elf models
I don't know what to call this but I know there's none of this shit directed at the dwarf armies.
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>>97562744
She looks like she fucked beastmen
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>>97562896
I guess it's too early for the Christmas battleforces to be declared flops. But all signs point to them being flops looking at current stock levels on fomo boxes.
HoH have been out for almost a year and there is plenty of their fomo box out there so they are a definitive flop. GW aims to produce fomo boxes to meet demand. Not have them rotting on shelves for a year.
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>>97562900
People who like the cold one knights/black dragons/black guard aspects of dark elves without liking the Khainite subfactions (witch elves, etc)
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>>97562900
The only thing I could want for dwarves of any variety is for khadrons to get boxers as a shtick.
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>>97562885
Aren't Naiads river spirits?
LRM would make more sense than iDK
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>>97562906
>HoH have been out for almost a year
Floppie you might genuinely be demented
>GW aims to produce fomo boxes to meet demand
And they did, some shop in nunavut still stocking french version battleforces or what have you is not a sign that those don't sell. I'd be interested if you could show any limited edition army set from the past 5 months or so fully selling out on your pajeet app. Be that tow, 40k, aos. It still has a fucking leviathan box set for example.
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>>97562673
>see something retarded
>call it retarded
>some fag: ackshully
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>>97562932
That leviathan box is listed for like $400-500 way above MSRP. The HoH boxes are listed in numerous stores under MSRP. Comparing the two isn’t being honest.
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>>97562713
GW got too cocky, too many releases, too expensive, not enough time to start new armies. The infinite reach for more profits is ironically choking the golden chicken.
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>>97562906
>I guess it's too early for the Christmas battleforces to be declared flops. But all signs point to them being flops looking at current stock levels on fomo boxes.
Horns of hashut only came out like 4 months ago bro.

And fomo boxes sucking isn't an AoS problem. 40k just released a bunch of preorder battleforces and no one is buying either. GW is shitting out too many bad 'deals' and the customer base is realizing they're getting fleeced.
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>>97562207
Man, "the model is too busy!" Is such a brain dead take. Newsflash, maybe some people like their models to have details?
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I like to imagine that living in ghur has to be a lot like life in the old frontier. Just with more cannibals.
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>>97562941
Oh so now we're applying conditionals. Still waiting on those counter examples by the way, or for you to learn the difference between february and october.
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>>97562988
can the both of you just erp in a discord already.
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>>97562993
I don't know what that means, but if it involves discord it can't be much good.
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>>97563019
I still haven’t tried using the new Vallejo metalics.
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Obr prices (in euros)
61.50 for chariot
51.50 for archers
31 for foot hero
50 for assassins (lol)
Feels really silly that 50 gets you a box of 5 dudes, while one (1) euro and 50 cents more gets you a box of 20. Character and chariot also pricey as fuck but that's no surprise.
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>>97563049
>38 EUR
WU warbands have almost doubled in price while I've been around, shit's crazy.
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>>97562901
Obviously not
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>>97563028
Considering they haven't released yet, I'd be surprised if you did.
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>>97563260
I might be confusing them for something else then.
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>>97563049
How the fuck is the OBR Chariot massively cheaper than the goblin one? I still think Gitmob prices were a prank that no one caught in time.
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>>97563283
I think thats for one chariot.
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I want to get into AoS and I am struggling between getting Ossiarch or Soulblight. I bought a box of mortek guard a while back but desu I like the feel and look of Soulblight more. Any recommendations?
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>>97563287
I'm talking about the Gitmob hero chariot, it costs over $100 for one small chariot.
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>>97563298
>like the feel and look of Soulblight more

There you go
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>>97563298
OBR are getting a new book soon so wait and see what the new play-style for that will be. Soulblight is more invovled in terms of play for better or worse, but sbgl has more player expression than what obr has had so far in its lifetime.
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>>97563298
If you really like classic skeletons and/or vampires, Soulblight is the way to go. If you want to bank on them unfucking the bland play pattern OBR has had all edition then you can go for that, especially if you prefer a more elite force.
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>>97563326
>>97563328
Thanks for the input. Tbh, I really like the notion of having hordes that self replenish so that has me leaning into Soulblight but I kinda suck at painting so im not sure about being able to properly paint 10 million skellymen.
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>>97563340
Skeletons are one of the easiest things to paint, I don't even play SBGL and I still keep some skellymen around for a quick little palette cleanser when my real projects are dragging on me.
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>>97561594
The design is cool and all but they dont really fit the theme of a skeleton army. How is a bulky armored skeleton able to be sneaky?
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did valkia ever have good rules in the context of aos in 2nd or third edition? Also are they still using her character or is there a chance she'll get the cursling treatment?
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>>97562900
>kurnothifags
literally just the one autist
>malerion fags
to be fair, the dark elf sculpts are all old as shit and you don't get flavorful thematic army rules to go along with the army if you do play those.
>>97562917
>dwarf boxers
A traditional shirtless boxer would fit Fyreslayers better BUT if KO ever got an elite heavy armored unit with pilebunkers I would coom.
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Post figs
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>>97563347
>Skeletons are one of the easiest things to paint
this was true, but SBGL new deathrattle models are actually decently detailed with chipped and puctured armor and cloth on all the models so it'll be a little more complicated than doing bone+ monocolored armor.
>>97563340
Definetly look into the army rules for current SBGL and what the new rules will be for OBR before pulling the trigger. If you like SBGL then go for it but OBR is a bit easier for a newer person to get into because they're fairly elite as a faction and pretty much all their models are designed to be only 3 colors so you don't have to paint many models and what you do have to paint isn't that complicated. With the new archers it'll be easier to run OBR as a horde if thats what you want, but again check the rules when the new book comes out before deciding.
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>>97563656
I recently painted dwarfs too (not AoS or Fantasy dwarfs tho). I like dwarves.
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>>97562954
Yep, what's the hell is this barrage of battleforce?
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>>97563095
And now, it doesn't contain cards for this price.
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>>97562487
no it doesn't, it provides a clear break from the tree to the Dryad. It emphasizes the torso
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>>97562539
It might be next year. They do like to put out an army expansion subfaction shortly before the edition ends. They did it with Darkoath and Barrow Kingdoms. Maybe Kurnothi will come out like January 2027

it sure would be nice
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>>97561556
Soon
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>>97563989
Anon I...
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>>97563260
>Considering they haven't released yet
https://www.super-hobby.com/catalog/True-Metallic-Metal.html?cpt_key=K1771221331_8877&cpt_key2=9112e501919488f12c6f37d0e3eb93c58919dfa7
https://spraygunner.com/products/vallejo-true-metallic-metal-full-collection-paint-set
https://www.dicearcade.com.au/vallejo-true-metallic-metal-airbrush-amethyst-purp
Looks pretty released to me.
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>>97564163
So far all the metal base coats have been very nice, but I’ve only tried the ancient copper, sterling silver and the imperial gold. All the “ Light “ highlight have been at least decent too. The washes are really hit or miss imo. The ancient copper is incredible, while the silver and gold are mediocre and I preferred different washes.
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>>97562954
>tranime fan talks to a spambot
Sad
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>>97564348
vtubers are /tg/ related because half of them own models now to milk paypigs, which is more model ownership than 90% of /tg/.
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>>97564387
Tell that to Jan Jan who mass banned people itt when someone posted Olynder painted like Mori
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>>97563656
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>>97564456
Shit, I wish I saw that.
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>>97562803
Shadowstalkers are fucking PEAK
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>>97564456
So black dress and pink veil? desu that sounds like a nice scheme
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>>97564387
Y'know the other day I wanted something in the background to listen to while painting and decided to check out the miniature category on twitch, and I want to say 75% of the channel there were some variation of vtuber. What the fuck is going on there.
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>>97564557
Animae girls are the only people somone is willing to watch paint models
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>>97564540
Calli's just generally got a good design. I unironically think it's the strongest out of holomyth. Using her color palate would do wonders for a nighthaunt army, they look so good together.
>>97564557
Probably just an overlap in the type of people who paint minis for fun and the type that don't really wanna show their face online for whatever reason. I'm unironically a bit shocked that Vtubers as a concept didn't appear sooner since back in the day it was common knowledge that you should never EVER show your face or personal info online.
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>>97564514
>oldblood larger than his mount
Lel
>>97564575
Well I don't know too much about them but in a way they're just the natural evolution of the moving png of the channel avatar with different expressions, you know what I mean. Probably just a case of the technology becoming (more easily) available if I had to guess.
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>>97563809
I can only assume that GW is really banking on whales making big impulse and FOMO buys to shift models than the people casually gorwing them set-by-set every so often to shift stock.
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My Wishlist For Kurnothi:
A few updated Wood Elf units from the Wanderers/WFB days but with an AoS twist like we got with the LRL.
Eternal Guard-esque mainline troops.
Glade Guard-esque skirmishers (like the Satyr-elves we got with Skaeth) and so on.
Deepwood Rangers-esque monster hunters (perhaps armed with hunting spears rather than axes)
Waywatcher-esque elite archer unit with only a handful of fragile but powerful af elves
But obviously I want the centaurs as well.
Elite centaur-elf melee cavalry
Centaur-elf ranged cavalry equipped with javelins and throwing weapons
Centaur-elf mage cavalry with staves and wands that buff other units.
In terms of heroes I want a few different ones.
Centaur hero with a mix of ranged and melee weapons, likely a javelin or throwing weapon
Archer bipedal hero like Qulathis
Mage bipedal hero
Belthanos as their "small" centrepiece hero
Kurnoth Reborn as their big god model

(All versions of the Kurnoth Hunters would also be present in the army)
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>>97564627
You're pretty on the money there actually. It's an evolution of the moving .png that people use since the tech is finally good and cheap enough to actually track facial expressions in real time for plebs. I think that the biggest jump to make vtubers actually "vtubers" was them going from prerecorded videos, where you could edit that shit in however you liked, to livestreaming.
You know hololive? The BIGGEST name in Vtubing and the home of the girl that started this line of discussion? Yeah apparently they used to use iphones as their hardware for their talents. And I don't mean "Way back in the day before they reached the shores of america" no, this was back when holo EN first debuted, and I think even during gen 2.
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please, dont let the liege kavalos on chariot only have a minimum redeploy 4 inches rule...
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>>97564834
he gets a minimum redeploy of 4 inches but on for deathrider and only if you move outside of enemy teritory
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>>97564834
he gets a redeploy x where x is the inches of your boner
only on a roll of 3+ if your opponent has a bigger one
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>>97564741
Go play 2e or TOW
Kurnothi shouldn't retcon their consistent fluff and design as hunters and rangers. Introducing eternal guard and heavy cavalry is just stupid
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>>97564741
too much shit

>centaurs kit (melee/ranged)
>satyrs kit (mix of melee and ranged)
>hounds made of vines and roots
>kurnouth
>centaur hero
>satyr wizard
that's it, for the rest you're meant to use kurnoth hunters, belthanos and treelords
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We will see Unbraneth models before another Kurnothi release.
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>>97565238
We need a treelord with a giant bow like the kurnoth hunters
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>>97565244
you'll see kurnothi exactly two months before umbraneth
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>>97565238
BITCH fak you I want my elves.

>>97565216
>Introducing eternal guard and heavy cavalry is just stupid
Never said heavu cavalry but go off love
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>>97565247
convert it and count it as a normal treelord or ancient
they've both got a ranged attack
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>>97565216
>>97565238
Nta but flanderization is what is killing this game. Just because we've only seen 1 sort of unit (both UW warbands are "hunters" as you say) doesn't mean the entire army has to be that.
We both know you'll now disagree and freakout/try to argue so please go ahead.

>>97565253
Don't be a dick anon.

>>97565247
Be pretty sweet.
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>>97565260
>the entire army has to be that.
the entire army is sylvaneth, with all the dryads and revenants
the kurnothi are one piece of that, the satyrs and centaurs
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It seems like every aelf army is split between two major themes with one of them getting significantly more support than the other.
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>>97565274
LRL are pretty good in terms of the various parts getting support. The Temples and the standard military, for lack of a better term, are both fairly well represented on the table.
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>>97565280
the standard military doesn't read as an opposite side of the temples as much as the mooks underneath them

the faction absolutely reads like it's teclis/temples dominated

tyrion should get accompanied with some elite units for that to stop being the case
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I don't know what's wrong with people to want more centaurs and completely ignore spites.
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>>97565262
>>97565260
>>97565253
>>97565238
>>97565216
>>97565287
>>97565262
>A! >:(
>B! >:(
>Pointless arguments continue
How I love this thread.
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>>97565287
>the standard military doesn't read as an opposite side of the temples as much as the mooks underneath them
You can literally play the Vanari as their own fucking army and never touch the fucking temples and still have a shitton of diverse units you fucking inbred arab.
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>>97565291
The faction will feel incomplete as long as kurnoth is missing, gw already did some spites and they are easily the part of the force they have the least imagination for
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>>97565301
>The faction will feel incomplete as long as kurnoth is missing
No it won't.
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>>97565301
>kurnoth
GW has already confirmed they're getting their own tome so you'll have to stick to your gay little incomplete trees.
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Would.
That's all I'm saying.
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>>97565297
spiders can't be dok because neither khaine or morathi have spider design cues or iconography

khaine has scorpions and manticores though, and even morathi kept the scorpion tail, so you can have khainites whose lower half is a scorpion or a manticore

but for big booty spiders you would have to draw on a different dark elf goddess like krethusa takes from morai heg, if not another element of morai heg
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>>97565310
>GW has already confirmed they're getting their own tome
no, they haven't
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>>97565317
Are bones cold? Like dead ones, living are obviously warm due to the active marrow. But is it more like a rock or like wood?
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>>97565328
death is associated with cold, so they are absolutely cold enough to burn at the touch
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>>97563283
OBR are heavily discounted because they're derpy as fuck and James knows it. Not many factions get 20 man infantry boxes these days but OBR do despite being the "elite" undead.
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>>97565274
What are the two major themes of idoneth?
>inb4 namarti and akhelians
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>>97565369
Being Forgotten both in the lore and in IRL :^)
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>>97565366
>despite being elite undead
Mortek as small as fuck though, normal skeletons are bigger and they also came in boxes of 20 just earlier this edition. Sbgl are one of the most popular armies too.
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>>97565369
the sea and the storm
the calm side and the turbulent side

unfortunately those two sides are explored exclusively by very minor tonal differences in a few of the kits (eidolon and the latest dual build hero), but if idoneth were popular enough to be fully expanded the two sides would be reflected in a way that makes them have the atlantean sea elves on one side, conventionally noble and closer to the high elves, with the akhelians at the center and slightly more greek influences, and the lovecraftian deep elves on the other side, spookier looking and closer to the dark elves, with the namarti at their heart and supported by fishmen and not!cthulhu
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>>97564456
Truly jannies are faggots and the scum of the internet
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>>97563283
Because the gobbo chariots didn't sell, full stop. They regularly try to over the Overton window on pricing, but if it falls flat (and the gobbo one 100% did, they immediately moved to make a Spearhead discounted set just to move the product out of storage), they pull back on the price
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>>97563260
Considered they have been released for weeks, you are a retarded faggot
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>>97562954
> Faggot Helsmith spammer replies to himself with a faggot tranime image
Pottery.
> Tranime user has deep insight into how GW should run its business
Faggot NEET what the fuck do you know?
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>>97565369
Yes. Thralls and artistocrats
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>>97565287
Temples are Teclis' nu-age yoga, standards are Tyrion's normies
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>>97565366
OBR get that many mortek because they shoved that many on the sprue.
I hope they just make the minimum unit size 20, I want to field bigger bricks of mortek. The only argument I hear for the pathic 10 man units is poorfags
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>>97565411
I'd be down for that
>>97565422
Wasn't the shitmob spearhead a thing even before the box? Same with deathrattle skeletons.
But yeah the gitmob pricing is atrocious. The small chariots actually aren't that much expensive compared to other gw chariots, they're just sold per two. But the boss/shaman chariot, I mean how the fuck did they arrive at that price.
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>>97565389
It's about theme, skellingtons are and have always been chaf, OBR aren't supposed to be chaf they're fluffed up as elite among the undead. Other elite armies normally have to make due with 5/10 boxes.
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>>97565488
"Elite" or not they take up less space in the box, hence in 20s.
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>>97565411
Don't high elves have sea monsters and colonial oppression ambitions? The difference is intention like LRL. Chaotic destruction Vs Ordered Domination
Total Elf/Aelf Death
Never trust an Aelf
Kill Elves on sight
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>>97565260
>we've only seen 1 sort of unit
No, they are followers of the wild hunt. The god of the hunt. They are half wild beings themselves.
An eternal guard unit makes no sense. They aren't wood elves, which is what you're flanderising them to be
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I don't want to start another row tribalist shitposting but I really want to get it out there how much it annoys me to see Cathay get developed in a much wackier and more fantastical direction than CoS.
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>>97565535
people asked for the normal humans faction
stop expecting the normal humans faction to be weird shit
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>>97565535
This does not look like something fantasy fans would enjoy honestly. Though "order beastmen" does sound like some shit they'd do for CoS yeah. Or would do, now we're just fantasy imperial guard.
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>>97565535
Cathay is genuinely more boring than cities.
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>>97565535
Wow this is awful
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>>97565535
>fucking furries
For all the unwarranted imperial guard comparisons, thank fuck CoS doen't have anthro furry shit. They should have given Cathay tiger riders or just armored tiger units. No one wanted furry shit in their fantasy chinese faction
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>>97564456
>>97565415
>jannies will ban someone posting a model but do nothing about the bot posting the same stupid vtumor meme in every 40kgeneral thread
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>>97564557
>vtubers have a 99% male audience with a 2% margin of error
>do things that appeal to their audience ie: checking out warhammer and other guy hobbies
it's the same reason there's a few that are fully into rightwing politics but none that openly support leftwing politics, it wouldn't work for the majority of their audience.
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>>97565366
the sprue was probably designed during the first wave, back when the game actually was closer to a war game in scope and size.

Of the new factions, OBR is arguably on more steady grounds than IDK/KO/Fyreslayers and probably Slaaneesh/Tzeentch. Don't know if it's a popular "primary" army but a fuck ton of people own the models.
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>>97565632
Last time I visited 40kg they had like 7 ritualposters and 3 ongoing lolcow meltdowns. Genuine shitshow of a thread, I feel sorry for all the modelposters there. They do seem to have cool community events though, that's nice for them.
All in all we don't have it so bad, the occasional flopposter visit, some thinly veiled concern trolling every two weeks, but nothing even close to what the average 40kg thread goes to.
I suppose we did have the whole ben thing back in the day.
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>>97565638
There's some lefty vtubers, but they're, as /vt/ would call them "2views"
Though I think a lot of the larger vtubers that do "guy stuff" are genuinely into it and not faking it for attention.
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>>97565317
It's funny, out of all the new OBR stuff the foot hero has the worst design to me. It's not bad per se, just utterly standard and boring. A guy with a sword and board, a cloak, and a little bird thing I guess. The pose is so stiff as well.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/irbbqxlq/exercise-relentless-discipline-and-unleash-the-fury-of-katakros-with-the-new-battletome-ossiarch-bonereapers/
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>>97565657
I agree, he's fairly boring. His bone sash is funny, and he's got more options than most hero kits these days which is nice, but it's not really a kit that makes you go "oh shit I want that dude leading my army". He's no mir kainan for example.
seriously by far the best obr model and he's locked in uw. He'd be a fine proxy though, would maybe have to rebase though I'm not sure
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>>97565665
>Run an elite army with Katakros and unit of the new archers
>Run the archers up the board to target your enemies big threat
>enemy kills your chaff, giving Katakros 10 attacks with crit 2 hits doing 26 attacks before factoring in crits
I wonder if Sylvaneth are going to be written like this. Between Tzeentch, LRL and this, it's clear the rules writers are okay giving factions stronger stuff
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>>97565712
I'm just glad we're past the "declare a target and roll a d3, on a 2+ allot damage points to the target equal to the dice result."
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>>97565665
An ability only triggering when half your army is gone seems bad. I do like that they have speaking like a wuxia villain though.
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>>97565665
Very glad I didn’t preorder because this shit is so lame. There’s almost no decision making with resource management because these abilites are so cheap. Damn am I going to give my massive unit of bows the ranged bonus, or my big block of melee the melee bonus? Who knows
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>>97565665
The discipline resource minigame does not seem quite as interesting as the lrl or tzeentch stuff, but I guess it's alright.
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>>97565759
Katakros giving you fight twice and 10 RDP seems like an auto-include. The abilities are quite strong, you can probably assume they'll always be turned on with the relevant units.
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>>97565777
The only reason you wouldn’t take him is that his ability shuts off if half your army is dead
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>>97565774
+1 to wound, fight twice, 5+ ward are abilities you'll never turn down. It's definitely not as complicated as the ridiculous LRL minigame.
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I just wanna know if they made the bone golem monster good. If he is I’m running 40 morteks and with 80 archers and 3 of the monsters.
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>>97565774
Yeah the buffs seem very keyed to specific units and are once per army so it doesn’t seem like there’s much thought involved
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>>97565774
I'll say wait for the battle traits. I dunno about you but I did not see the LRL getting that big ass list of runes before it was leaked here.
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>>97565774
Unless the scrolls are a lot stronger, and the subfactions give significant buffs, it's a lot worse than the index one
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I don't hate Age of Sigmar. I hold zero interest, loyalty, or curiosity towards it. It means as much to me as the brand of bread I buy. I bought some Daughters of Khaine because I wanted cool witch elves to kitbash into Wyches or use for dark elf models. I will never play AoS, or give a shit about the lore. Thanks. Bye.
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>>97565858
k
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>97565858
(You)
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>>97565786
Probably a shitty 'roll additional dice when you rally' ability that is solely for single wound units (so mortek, the archers). If it can't be used in combat it's trash (LRL opened the door to allow rally in combat though so there is hope)
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>>97565759
It's not even up for preorder yet I don't know you even had the opportunity to decline to preorder
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>>97565712
> Get half your army killed then use Katakros ability on himself with You Dare ability
How are mouth breathers like you even exist in the fucking world
> You Dare rule explicitly says if you activate this, you can't use the fight twice ability anymore
> The fight twice ability is you spend RDP based on the targets health, so either Katakros goes down to TEN HEALTH (aka RIP he is fucked) or he could never target himself anyway
Holy shit the inability to read. Why aren't you playing some destruction army you are too stupid for any other faction. Try Sons of Behemet it's more your style



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