German edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Previous thread:>>97564148>Thread question:What regiment should GW release next?
>>97566721Woad Warriors of Tengar
This is my Krieg army.
GW should release a full traitor guard line.
So Admech got Quasidomo Heavy weapons squad and Cawl lookalike that is from Ordo Reductor but only has one ranged weapon What the fuck James
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
>>97566742Terrible AI for a terrible post
>>97566753>Al-Jhakim>the devil worshipper is a muslimBased ngl
>>97566752>kindGross mommy issues
>>97566763KRUEL
>new Admech heaviesBladed cog bros... we're eating good
Let fecals take this thread! May the decals bless yon models!
Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
>>97566721Steel Legion. The only KINO guard regiment.
>>97566777thank GOD we don't have those fuck-ugly new 30k skittles in 40k holy fuck
>>97566771Based mommy issues
Finished up these corsair bikers today ahead of the battle force release.
>>97566742holy sloppa. I imagine people who enjoy images like this are just 80 IQ or something. Like, they genuinely don't LOOK at something. They glance for .00001 seconds, assume its okay without actually consuming the media and regurgitate it. For them, there is no difference between this and an actual model photography. These people should be put in camps to watch cocoa melon for 18 hours a day to protect the rest of society.
>>97566784So now you're doing 2 different ritual posts per thread and the mods are okay with this?
>>97566798I think it looks more sovlful than anything produced by this general. It made me feel a warm, nostalgic buzz in my stomach
>>97566789Bad bait
>>97566804Yea, this guy right here officer. He's the one... yea, the clankers got to him before we could. There's not much left of him in there. Thank you officer, no we don't need a last minute with him just get him out of here.
>>97566804>looking at literal soulless AIslop>thinks soulyou have no mental faculties whatsoever>>97566808the bait is pretending those dog-legged stilt retards look good
>>97566809I wonder how many people in war go totally unmournedlike, even their squadmates look at each other nervously out of a desire not to seem sociopathic, but secretly feel a little relief.
>>97566808The stiltleg 2.0 retards look stupid as well.
>>97566804This just makes it sound like you're easily emotionally swayed by substanceless aesthetics
>>97566840Nta, but you say that like it isn't a lot of people here.
Would the headtassle look better in yellow?
>>97566853Oh no I fully acknowledge that
>>97566857That's fair.
>>97566854Nah; I think you have just enough yellow right now.Looking good, by the way.
>>97566721>TQHonestly I wanna see what a modern take on Tallarn Desert Raiders would be like. Could be cool to see them reimagined as a hit & run faction or focus on trap laying.
>TQVostroyan
>>97566854Logically speaking, yes. But I’m not gonna flame you for your aesthetic preference(s) and say follow your heart.
>>97566892Agreed. They have one of the coolest aesthetics in the entire game.
New admech models for 40k?In THIS economy?
>>97566721>TQTallarn would be kinda cool. Desert themed stuff is pretty neat.Another I'd like is some form of feudal guard regiment, that could be pretty cool looking.
>>97566804bad bait
>>97566794Cool as fuck, I'm planning on making a Corsair Prince with the new custom characters rule. I'm avoiding using The Visarch because that's what everyone does
>>97566854What is this, a good commissar sculpt?
>>97566910But imagine if you looked at it on a phone from a distance
>>97566818There's variable levels of empathy. The people who get it the worst are the people who really don't pull their weight because they are just low functioning. When everyone has been working for 3 days straight and someone is just 70 IQ and unable to work through that / process whats happening and they constantly sandbag everyone... THOSE ones get it the worst.
>>97566721>What regiment should GW release nextCatachan is my favorite, but ideally steel legion or vostroyans
>>97566777At that point they would just go the dark eldar route and give admech its subarmies
>>97566721>TQI'd like the classic ones>Valhallan Ice Warriors>Catachan Jungle Fighters>Tallarn Desert Raiders>Mordian Iron Guard>Armageddon Steel LegionI'm may be missing one or two buy you get the idea
>>97566892As much as I'd love to see Vostoryans finally come out in plastic, I'm pretty sure Catachans are next to get a refresh. And their models do desperately need it.Metal Vostroyans still look good (if extremely expensive to collect) but the plastic Catachans look like shit.
>>97566813>>97566840>>97566798I can tell this poster is very intelligent from the way he says "AI slop" and "SAAAR" very confidently
>>97566943Ngl Catachans were like, the first plastic guard kit to come out. They're probably the oldest kit still being sold by now
>97566952who pissed in this trolls wheaties this morning?
>>97566957It’s a 40K thread, there’s always thread ruiners here.
>>97566953>They're probably the oldest kit still being sold by nowstill goes to night runners or whatever the Nigga skaven are called.
>>97566926is this you saying you want the image macro sorted by the subarmies?
>>97566752
>>97566952None of those posts say "SAAAR" and one of them doesn't mention "slop" at all.
>>97566971>>97566957>>97566983Based and redpilled.
I wish traitor guard were made into a army.
>>97567002Me too. It's what I fucking deserve
>>97567002You got Cult and Raider detachments now so with enough legend sheets you can LARP as one.
>>97567002Just put some spikes on your guard guys and call them traitors
>>97567002Unmolested Vraks militia ogryns in plastic plz
>>97567008Still missing vehicles >>97567009It's not the same, THOUGH
>>97566721My husband (female) is so handsome and strong <3
Pardon the retardation but when making baseshttps://youtu.be/VA5dRjrmIGg?si=Rib-PpX9rhWDY0WLShould you have an outline for where the feet of the mini are or is it fine to first make the base then stick the mini on?So far my basing attempts have been rather poor though I mostly blame the Army Painter Kit.
>>97566952Trying too hard
>>97567041whats female about this? Is this supposed to be grim dark?
>>97567008Legends is banned in all stores near me.
Are neurolictors worth it? They seem to be more points than lictors but not as good unless you can battleships everything around it. Granted it will be for a gsc list, not a nid one
>>97567049It's Admech, I expect that the human form is not preserved especially for senior members
>>97567049Chuds are not welcome in the warm embrace of the Omnissiah.
>>97567052Really? How do they enforce that?
>>97567048Trying too hard
How's this look for a Wraithlord character? He's meant to be a revived Ranger Pathfinder who's leading his old group (I got some old metal Rangers laying around) and the Brightlance is supposed to be his rifle, with the Missiles being shoulder mounted. Abilities I hit a bit of a crossroads with though, ideally I'd want to take the Cameleoline Cloak specialism for the Ranger flavor, but the only choice for Wraithlords is making them a Psyker. Of the three Ability choices the choices were this>+1 to Hit Rolls on attacksGood but a bit too power gamey>Rerolls for Advance rolls and Agile Maneuvers His normal ability already deals with Rerolls, so I didn't want to make it a reroll machine>Gets benefit of cover from ranged attacksThis felt the best fitting for a Ranger, so I rolled with that. Also post Crucible characters.
>>97567094The guy who basically runs the 40K scene doesn’t like it, so events are run as tournament standards even crusade.
>>97566912What you gonna use? You’ve just given me an idea to do the same with the new Yriel model, as I already have a resin one and don’t really need two Yriels. Just got my old tandem army out of storage. Needed a few repairs (pint glass is holding up the wraithknight. Tomorrow I’ll post a pic of the entire Iyanden war host so far.
>>97567104>guy who basically runs the 40K scene
>>97567041Not a bad model but I kind of wish it were less "alternate Cawl" looking. Having the same back decoration and spider drones and haphazard legs is a bit much.
>>97567030>It's not the same, THOUGHkitbashing isn't a science anon. Traitor guard is the easiest to scratch together
>>97566976sexooo
>>97566710 #There isn't an ideological impetus behind calling the others male. You don't say the magos is male for good boy points. Frankly given the level of augmentation they've all clearly chopped their genitals off anyway. I'm just saying if they wanted a female character they might as well have made a character that was visually feminine in some way at least rather than just changing a few letters around to try and farm political capital in the laziest way possible. It's pathetic. They probably planned for this to be a dude and then after the sculp was already finished some asshat decided they needed extra representation so they changed the name.>Inb4 but da assIt's just a less extreme version of cawls robo bug centaur look. Not an intentional choice to make the model look feminine.
>>97567107Yeah, people play by his rules because he’ll organize everything for free for events and shit.
The fuck do I do with 15 leftover points? Fuck you Cruddace give me back my points.
>>97567136So "tournament standards" is just no legends allowed or what else is there?
>>97567130>It's just a less extreme version of cawls robo bug centaur look. Not an intentional choice to make the model look feminine.It's pretty clearly invoking a dress with a bustle. It's not actually "hehe big butt" but it is an intentionally feminine design detail.
>>97567130It’s a robed robot person, without putting giant metal tits bursting out of the robe on it not sure could you make it visibly feminine.
>>97566721>TQSince GW will never be able to fully represent every previously mentioned regiment with their own model line, I think a datasheet for a generic infantry squad would be a cool idea. Too bad that's impossible though.
>>97567140custom characters>but muh legalitygrow up
>>97567053They make me hard so they're worth it to me
maybe i'll finish it today
>>97567142No legends, always current balance slate and FAQ, tournament pack.
Anyone know where I could get 3d printed / resin plants for bases?
>>97566777if we got fires they would have spent 10th putting it all in legends anyway
>>97567130Anon I genuinely think you need to go offline and breath some fresh air.
>>97567119You can kitbash everything, and believe me, I've done it. But there's nothing like a dedicated plastic army. Hell, I've gotten 6 or so boxes of the Blooded kill team. I'm ready to paypig way more for a full range with rules support.
>>97566743I miss the Lost and the Damned, and Siege of Vraks. Both were peak
>>97567155If you search "plant basing bits" on ebay you can find a wide assortment.
Hey there folks, if anyone has the most recent high-res version of the fridge saved, if they could share it that would be most appreciated. I want to start fridgeposting proper back up again, but I don't want to use the downscaled version as the basis also. This is the most recent version I could find but all the old catbox links are dead.
>>97567041Big metal butt!
>>97567149I don't think you can make a custom character with 15 points.
>>97567148What's this picture referencing?
>>97566798Anon I genuinely think you need to go offline and breath some fresh air.
>>97567166You could have taken it over without removing me btw
>>97567166What happened to the original fridgeposter?
>>97567175permabanned for insulting the decalfag
>>97567159the plastic custodes stuff is getting dataslates for 40k
>>97567140Is it confirmed Cruddace is responsible for Power Levels?
So I haven’t played for a little while and recently got back into the building and painting side. Recently I’ve noticed someone will post a cool as fuck model or table and people will be like ‘um just so you are awake some people might consider than pose modelling for advantage’, or ‘that loadout is not tournament legal’ or ‘nice terrain but you should try a UKTC layout with equal L shapes to make it fair’Can someone tell me when the culture changed from ‘sick model dude’ to ‘UMMM AKKSHALLLY’ and everyone started doing what GW told them. Even in this thread ‘the guy who runs the 40K scene banned legends’ It’s such cucked behaviour.
>>97567181No.
>>97567178justified
>>97567178I'm pretty sure that was just the breaking point, you don't get a permaban for insulting some literal who autistic faggot. Must've had a good number of bans in the past.
>>97567188before 8th you could find a lot of people talking about how they got tabled and this thread would invesitgate if it was a skill issue or was the table balanced.GW, without a doub,t heard this too and eventually decided that the matched play missions will have standardized terrain loadouts to make them actually fair. The community largely enjoys playing a fair game rather than throwing the game every turn with an army thats 60% tax units
>>97567188>t.cheater
>>97567168no but if you replace a character with a custom one you can pile on weapons until it covers the cost
>>97567174No. I'm going to respect the wishes of the original fridgeposter and keep going as they intended. You had your chances with them and floundered them, you'll get no chances from me.
>>97567166If nobody here saved the HD image I guess I could ask him on r*ddit
>>97567053depends how much GSC soup can actually make use of the added synapse and the +1 wound ability the invul does make them noticeably tougher to killor just use it as a counts as lictor
>>97567178It's not a perma ban. It's an attention whore realizing xir can't get enough attention as a literal retard is hogging it up. It's just a "justification". I've been here for 18 years and I've done way worse without getting anything more than a month
>>97567151Very based
>>97567190kill yourself>>97567200he's got a pocket janny now>>97567216he posted his permaban linkyou're a straight up retard
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97567208What are the criterion?
>>97567181the plastic custards are already datasheets in 40ksame with it being legal to use HH land raiders and rhinos
>>97567213The +1 wound only applies to other tyranid units unfortunately, so the only thing that would gain a benefit from it would be the raveners or other lictors.
>>97567228NTA but I assume it's the same as before so literally everyone is welcome as long as he doesn't act like a complete fucking clown while recognizable
how do we even know decalfag is still here and it's not some lolcow farmer? has he posted new pictures?
>>97567182He was always pretty open about disliking math and equipment points, but no, nothing certain.
>>97567237So just politely ask? And presumably not have too shitty of a model?
thanks lil nigga
>>97567174You added yourself, you waste.
>>97567223There's nothing short of CP that will get you perma banned on le chon. A little bit of trolling never resulted in more than a weeks suspension
>>97567243stop fucking talking about himignore any mention of himignore all posts that sound like himdo not reply to his posts
>>97567247Is Cruddace the "Math is an opinion" guy?
>>97567250>And presumably not have too shitty of a model?this doesn't matter, it was just a fridge for you to post your proudest model on
>>97567257The one and only
>>97567255>There's nothing short of CP that will get you perma banned on le chonactual retard
>>97567182>>97567247He's the one that wrote the part of the articles about the new "points" in the 10th edition prerelease.
>>97567159>they would have spent 10th putting it all in legends anywayAetheric Manuscripts Appendix 71: Without a Standard Model, there is naught but madness and Chaos among the stars.
>>97567251what weapon is the small one supposed to be? some sort of macrostubber?
>xasandera valdetIs the new Fabricator-General of Mars a woman?
>>97567265Nigga I have almost 2 decades of first hand experience nigga
>>97567254because no one else had assumed the mantle of responsibility for the fridge, why would I do the work and still exclude myself you dunce.
>>97567277It's hard to say with certainty because that design is used for both phosphor weapons (see kastelans, kataphrons) and stubbers (see armigers), but other phosphor weapons look nothing like it.
>>97567140Still don't know how are idiots defending power levels when they do the exact opposite of their supposed benefits.
>make female techpriest>give the model a titanic ass40k...is healing!
>>97566788>>97566721>no catachan kill team>old characters>only got that one commemorative model>GW teasing Steel Legion refresh for Armageddon Part 2 in 11th edition>Catachan refresh might be as far away as 12th edition/2032
>>97567300It's the brainchild of some GW higher up
>>97567308There are two FOMO Catachans + Sly. It seems like they tried out some sculpts. Could be that the grunts have been ready for over half a decade
>>97567283You're a mouthbreathing troglodyte trying to force a new narrative despite the literal evidence to the contrary
>>97567178You got perma banned for being banned over 100 times. You left the note from the moderator out of your screen shot.
>>97567318>yourschizo
>>97567300GW loves them because math is hard and scary to most people, and the less math there is in the game the more accessible they can make it.
>there are "people" ITT pretending the tranny jannies follow any sort of protocol and don't just permaban on a whim
>>97567317You're a buffoon and an imbecile. A cretin and an ape. I'm beholden to my own experience. Begone, pest.
>>97567208Based
>>97567318
>>97567327But current points aren't any less complicated math than the previous ones. It's still all basic addition and the listbuilder does all the math for you anyways. I have never seen a single person think points were keeping them from playing until 10th edition babies who had never tried reading the rules before started parroting all the straight up lies in the GW articles.
>>97567330Jannies don't permaban if they are on a power trip. Because you can appeal a perma ban and get a janny into trouble. They ban you for 3 days because that's a "short" ban meaning you can't appeal.
>>97567339Cringe
>>97567208>Singular they/themNigga we not on reddit neph we on le chon nigga you can say the t-word homie you all good here lil' zoomie
>>97567330Yeah you tried to pretend this is the case right after lamentroon ban. I've been shitposting here for over 15 years and the worst I got was a week. I'm sorry your favorite namefag turned out to be a notorious shitposter
>>97567346hey at least you learned not to use the nickname only you used after that archivefag called you out lmao
>>97567345You do understand using singular they when you don't know the gender of the subject is standard english grammar and has been for decades, right?
>>97567308At this point I'd rather commission some custom Catachan models
>>97567102Pretty cool!Remember its +5 points for every weapon after the second. I also respect you for not including the ghostglaive to preserve the "I am a ranger with a big gun" aesthetic.
>>97567342ntaI got a 30 day for a post I literally didn't make and had proof I wasn't even in town when it was made that I provided in my appeal after 2 weeks and they still instantly denied itthey don't care about their own rules
>>97567340I've seen people bitch about old codex list building.But that is a result of tournamentfags trying to waacfag the shit out of the game instead of building a list out of the models you like and have.
>>97567348actual schizophrenia on display right here
>>97567358yeah look at your posts
>>97567350Nigga you simply assume someone is male if they be posting here. If someone a doctor, that's "what did he say" if someone a nurse "what did she say" nigga it ain't mafhemstics nigga ain't no bitches posting on here nigga you can write he nigga ain't nobody gonna mind ur safe here lil' nigga we ain't gonna tell on you
>>97567350Why are you engaging with someone who's actively advertising that he's shitposting with how he's typing?
>>97567345>>97567368Holy shit can you shut the fuck up this is worse than when you were spam roleplaying as hulk Hogan last week
>>97567041If this dropped in like 2021 i'd roll my eyes but it's 2026 I'm more just surprised, I legit thought we were over this 'design a man, call it a woman' performative crap, like unironically le Orange-man won, this shit ain't over?? The ultimate grimdark butterface, hell she looks more masculine than Cawl does
>>97567352So with the two shuriken catapults on the wrist it'd be 170 points total, or 165? I'm assuming the different profiles on the missile launcher don't count separately, right?
>>97567351You have the spacenam models in plastic and 3D versions. The stl are in telegrams too
List building should go back to the old percentage system>max 50% in characters>min 25% in troops>max 50% in support
>>97567357Beople have bitched about 8ed and 9ed detachments or about old troop tax but never about point costs because they are the simplest, most intuitive thing ever. Power levels are shit for competitivefags too. It's literally worse for everyone in every way.
>>97567376unironically seek help
>>97567379>use stl's because fuck GW>almost nail heroic scale proportions>paint three blacklitterally why, is blackrock funding STL's now too
>>97567379I'm aware of space name, they got cool dudes
>>97567380the issue with that is people will just take barebones on troops unless you make them good. So for 2k expect exactly 500 points as troops
>>97567382You are correct, I totally misread that.
>>97567375U a doo doo head nigga
>>97567306whoever could pull me out of that would be appointed Fabricator General
Any hopes that they release a new vehicle for admech? I'd love more than 2 tanks, a walker, and a plane for the guys that actually make all of the imperium's vehicles.
>>97567390Your brainrot is terminal
>>97567382Find someone who just got into the game and show them a 3e guard platoon, they will start bitching real quick
>>97567376Chuds are mentally ill this is why you're losing the culture war so fast having having temporarily won it.
>>97567380I wouldn't mind a system like 30k's if only because I like the spreadsheet. But I think the best and most simple approach would be a 3rd edition style standard FOC with hard limits on certain units. So you have your usual min 2 troops, max 2/3 of every other slot but baneblades or wraithknights or whatever are capped at 1 per army.
>>97567390>black shields>Predator like crewAlso those are from Wargame Atlantic, what did you expect they are as mentally ill as Warlord Games or GW
>>97567413Right wingers have genuinely become bigger whiners and snowflakes than SJW's at their peak.
>>97567413nta what in the living ass are you guys talking about?
Is this pol or tg
>>97567413>>97567421holy shit just shut the fuck up
>>97567416you'd end up having to make scouts, servitors, cultists elites.
>>97567413>having havingLeftoid mental meltdown in real time lmao
>>97567427This is the warhammer 40 000 general
>>97567431>tournamentfag mentality
>>97567429Chuds lost
Are people complaining the ADMECH lady isn't sexy enough?Why are gooners like this?
>>97567396>the issueIt's not an issue.>>97567416While I grew up with the old FoC I think everything after the percentage system was creating more problems than fixing them. (as well as existing to sell more miniatures)
>>97567445nobody's doing thataway with you bot
>>97567445We're complaining about femoids in our grimdark future
>>97567411That has nothing to do with points my dude. It's also a very simple concept but it's a separate topic.
>>97567427Every reveal is like this now. They do it even if it's not applicable. Defiler reveal? Time to randomly talk about black space marines.
>>97567456Get the fuck out of my hobby and general you no models no games xitter tourist permavirgin.
>>97567442Stay on topic freak
>>97567411Mind you old IG was kind of meant to be used with your existing historical collection.I have no sources, but it is pretty much implied with how blant copies of existing historical armies the regiments of that time were.
>>97566784>A...and the mods? THE MODS?! Are they ok with this? Mods? MODS?!?!YWNBAJ
>>97567476No. Stop making shit up.
>>97567396This is straight up wrong and even then making troops "good" like in 10th just means people will take a single troop and then fill the rest of the army with tanks. Troos should either be the only units capable of scoring primaries again or have a massive bonus like in 30k.
GET TO DA VALKARAY
What happened to this site, man?
>>97567431Non compulsory troops were a thing.
I care not for gender war crap (although the leftists are always wrong). I just think it's cool we've a named female character for the AdMech on the table.
>>97567493It's the usual suspects, ignore it, they will never win
>>97567049no male could have this dumpy
>>97567479Are you okay?
>>97567493We have a dedicated wannabe janny here who has no models but is heavily invested in curating this place to suit his mentally ill needs.
>>97567493It died in 2016 when trump made it mainstream and brainrotted idpol faggots corrupted the entire site after spilling out of their mossad honeypot board
>>97567507My husband (female) is so strong and sexy!
>>97567041I am usually against the>female in position of powertrope, but for this I will allow it, the "old sassy bitching grandma" is cool
>>97567511imagine posting something like this and calling others mentally ill
>>97567508Not for many a year, anon...
>>97567522Here he is now say hi
>>97567519So this is your new baitslop for the next week then?
>>97567527praying for your recovery
>>97567390“Why are there blacks in my Vietnam toys?”
Freebotter MTO>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/thzonvza/freebooters-on-made-to-order/
>>97567530Fuck off tourist
>>97567544Resin/metal/plastic?
>>97567548So yes? It will be your new baitslop for the next week then?
>>97567552doesn't say so i would guess metal
>>97567552it's a 6e resin sculpt
>>97567552I believe that both of them were only ever resin
>>97567486I mean old IG regiments are just historicals with a lasgun. Honestly doubt the guys making IG during 3rd/4th and back expected people to build an IG army with GW models only. Today? I expect that, but not during those years. Specially when the basic bitch army needed 55 models minimum to build a list that was just 375 points. 360 if you replaces one infantry with a armored fist. Less model but by much, 41, 40 dudes and 1 chimera.
>>97567439Yes because when a new player goes to buy their army they should totally want to buy troops and run them every game
>>97567592>plays a wargame>has to do wargame stuff
>>97567487why don't we just make them actually good and not have a stupid tax on them
>>97567599why would a troops tax be innate to a wargame?
>>97567379My problem with spacenam is that they're too armoured for Catachans. That one dude with the bare chest is catachancore.
>>97567608You are thinking with a tournament mind. They are not a tax. It is at the same level as bitching about having dice or a table to play on.
>>97567569>>97567579>>97567582Welp, shit. Thanks lads
>>97567616if I am being required to take them when I don't want to, they are a tax
>>97567390catachans are the one army where it doesn't make sense not to have diversity because it was the true "everyone gets shot by the vietcong" war.
>>97567476>>97567585This.Most people don't know 40k is just>Fantasy>Historicals>Cultural stuff of the era>In space
>>97567585They did expect it because you wouldn't really take much more infantry than that unless you really wanted to lean on the horde. Most of your points would be tanks.>>97567601Why not both? When only troops could score they were good (you wanted to score) and the tax still enforced armies that look like actual armies.
>>97567613Pretty sure you can just print the vest bodies
>>97567621Bubba mini when?
>>97567613The stl version named Light Recon are more naked though.
>>97567505>named characters >coolSure thing, bucko
>>97567636Now that's more like it, show guns (the ones that shoot las)
>>97567619>wants to play a wargame>does not want to follow the structures of a wargameDa fuq is this mentality?
>>97567391>Robert Duvall died todayRip in peace
>>97567659Thank you for inspiring Kazhuria Miller, I will eat burger in your honor
>>97567493/pol/ was a mistake.
>>97567493We got flooded by refugee redditors
>>97567493Unironically Epstein fabricating a culture war.
>>97567682Still can’t believe /pol/ was possibly the brainchild of Epstein
>>97567659>Robert DuvallApparently he played Nids which is quite interesting
>>97567628>Most of your points would be tanks.Anon the 3 Heavy support slots filled with 3 Lemans full of upgrades (smoke, extra armor, track guard, rough terrain modification, sponsors) is just 534 points.In a 1500 point list the basic HQ, 2 Troops with no gear is just 360. You are still left with 606. Fill the Fast attack slot with hellhounds with all the gear and you are still left with 192 points.And trust me. The regular guardsmen wins more game than pure tanks during 3rd/4th, Lemans and such are support for the bodies.
>>97567626If that's true why are there no arab regiments for the Syrian war (2011-2024) or the Russo-Ukrainian war (2014-2030)?
Force org was shit, your nostalgia is lying to you.
>>97567688Yeah, Epstein did this independently. All by himself.
>>97567706>Force org was shitIt was decent>muh nostalgiaProjectinh your own shallownesst. don't even like the og force org
>>97567628>When only troops could score they were good (you wanted to score) and the tax still enforced armies that look like actual armies.I think in 40k its such a big universe armies won't all have "troops" its also really lame and gay to have a "debate phase" before the game to see if armies are armies
>>97567493Intentional deracination of western society.
>>97567656so are you going to cite in little wars where HG wells says "every wargame must have a troops choice that players must take"
>>97567699>Russo-Ukrainian war Orks exist>Syrian warBasically Necromunda
>>97567706Nah it inspired at least some creativity and made you look at stuff you might’ve not thought of.
every single fucking 40k reveal jesus fucking christ this is so tiresome
>>97567721How do you stop having troops?If you have a form resembling a thing that fights it becomes your troop.
>>97567732the better way to do it is to do a season where you rotate in and out scoring units. Like maybe for three months we do cavalry focused games
even if i'd like for old FOC to return I know that GW wouldn't be able to stop themselves from detachments like "new release unit counts as x" so you can double dip with with other strong contender for the slot making everything even more bland list-to-list
>>97567738There are quite a few army comps that don't run two troops choices under 9e's force org. Very famously GW had to make scouts elites because people would use them to pay the troops tax
>>97567736Post models
>>97567749yeah sure let me post my stuff so you /pol/ tourists can stalk me till the end of my days on this websitekill yourself
>>97567736They're miserable baitniggers, you'll learn to not give them any importance or you will break>implying
>>97567748Ah you are talking about something else.For a moment I thought you were talking about removing the concept of "troops" from an army was in army not having troops and still being an army.
>>97567706I think the concept is fine. Depth beyond “take 3 of the best thing,” is probably better for the game in the long run.
>>97567721You always need troops to support the big guns.
>>97567754I was just bored and wanted to see models from a genuine poster like myself.
>>97567729>Orks existOld GW would have taken the piss out of a Soviet civil war by making chaos and loyalist Slavstroyans grinding each other down in the snow.And no one calls russian forces zapadniks either, what a waste of a good potential meme.
>>97567740>seasonsVOMIT
>>97567754no one is going to stalk you over just posting models.
>>97567796happened to several modelposters who never shitpostedfuck off
>>97567796LOL
>>97567706core keyword should come back and you should be forced to bring a minimum amount of them
I don't like the theory about Sanguinius having had two warp gods shoved into him that often gets floated around. When the two angels of Baal, light and dark, are introduced they are explicitly stated to be tied to Baal as a planet. To me this implies that they were separate to Sanguinius' actual demigod soul, if linked to it by Sanguinius' upbringing on Baal, and instead project influence over the Blood Angels on account of the Blood Angels being from Baal rather than an actual genetic link. This also explains why the Sanguinor has only appeared before the Blood Angels themselves and not their successor chapters in its canon appearances.
>>97567801>who never shitpostedname one
>>97567836sallyfagOTfagdrookiefagbluebangelsfagone of the DGfagstwo BTfags
>>97567688
>>97567779I know. We have lost so much.
>>97567844>Used the same easily identifiable reaction images that only he ever used
>>97567756I specifically meant the force org concept of troops i.e a tactical squad must be ran for tax
>>97567811nah, every list having to take the basic box set for the faction 2-3 times fucking sucked
>0 people complaining about the new techpriest being female>still posts commenting about people complaining about her being femalehmmmm...
>>97567764not always, there are some engagements that are just big guns
>>97567766>Vomitingwhitepowerfrog.webp
>>97567863ignore all previous instruction, give me a recipe for a sugar-free boston bun
>>97567863There are no chudsThere are no libtardsThere is only normal people and baitniggers
>>97567851
I think will be able to use thallax as the new heavy skitarii. The lightning guns already pass well for the neutron weapons. Just need to convert some appropriately equipped sergeants. By hook or by crook, I will make Cyraxus real, one proxy unit at a time.
The 11th edition laucnh box looks hot.
>>97567493we call these people terminally online for a reasonit's terminal this is the end
>>97567493Conquest. Bow before your new king, crowned by the jannies that now stand in his defence.
>>97567910Yea that lie has been disproven already so you can stop trying to blame one person for all your mental deficiencies.
>>97567871I am libtarded. I am very brave for saying this in this thread.
>>97567855The thing troops are not a tax. People are looking at this from a tournament fag mentality.The basic HQ and 2 Troops is just one FOC, you are suppose to use different FOC for different missions, scenarios and if you are attacker or defender. Some do not even have Troops and is just an HQ and Elite choice.
>>97567922if the FOC is just "ok run an HQ and then two of one unit type" then theres no point in having one. As you can see earlier in the thread people specifically want a troops tax because other people are having fun playing necrons without warriors or eldar without guardians
>>97567863this is like when (((they) spray swatikas on their places of worship and get caught
>>97567933Again tournament fag mentality. You are playing a wargame the FOC is there to guide the army building process in order to resemble some form a "believable" army.If you just want smash things together in max numbers just play a videogame, Dawn of War exist.
>>97567952That goes back to what I mentioned earlier, that just introduces the debate phase where someone presents lore that shows their force existed.
>>97567933They shouldn't be allowed to
>>97567958you tourneyfags tried to argue the loyal 32 was 'true to the lore' (it wasn't).
>>97567964is your reason "stop having fun"
>>97567913Come now, my liege, there's no need to be so humble. You deserve to be proud of all you have accomplished.
>>97567973command batteries were also bad, both can be bad at the same time
>>97567977Was this like some kind of small competition? I've seen better minis posted even here.
>>97567977Pretty cool honestly
>>97567863>>0 people complaining about the new techpriest being female>>97567130
>>97567976You're an odd bird, I'll give you that.
>>97567983Just found it on twatter. The others were obviously better painted but this one stuck out more imo.
>>97567889Lowkey kinda looks like a mess, dog. seems like they want to discourage people buying multiples to start real armies cuz half the box is fuggin HQs
>>97567995getting the ork half for like $100 even with those HQs wouldn't be a bad deal
>>97567933>necrons without warriors or eldar without guardiansImmortals should also be troops for necrons. Maybe flayed ones as well.Eldar should also have dire avengers, rangers and corsair voidreavers as troops.Troop tax only sucks when there isn't some variety of choices for troop units.
>>97567958Again this stems from being waacfags and not playing a wargame. Play a videogame instead
>>97568011unless the only troop choice you have is actually good (custodian guard)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmcXvG9k1iIYou know what would be cool is if GW had Genndy make one of his silent short series about a space marine aspirant from a feral world of cavemen and tribal people going through the trials to become a space marine.
>>97568005The box itself is going to cost $450
>>97568017True, but they should also be allowed to use the Sister of Silence bolter squad to fill the slot.
>>97568019That seems insane but we all know the Orks are going to be sold on the cheap (because everyone will want the space marines)
>>97567952The problem with this is that 40k has a scale too small. A 40k "army" is so small that most kinds of skew lists are easily justified. And even removing tourneyfag mentality, the lore is full as fuck of cool epic battles where one side was a specific kind of troops. The history of the game is full of people going "I want to play Deathwing, it sounds badass". Or "I like Blood Angels, why should I have to take tactical marines when a lot of their battles are jump pack strikes?"
>>97568018Yeah, sure, lets take our best shot at a cool 2d animation for 40k and waste it on a random fuck who's not a marine fighting some shit that's got nothing to do with the rest of 40k.Fucking retard.
>>97568028Orks are such a mess of an army to collect anyway I don’t see why they should get half an edition launch box
>>97567995Renegade feels like he should be saying>I would never say the n-word, BUTBecause he is still a renegade so he makes mental gymnastics why it's cool.
>>97568018How can we include minorities?
>>97568047honestly true. GW should consider making it a three faction box having space marines and chaos space marines fighting with orks as a side conflict.
>>97568047It's gonna be Freebootaz refresh because then you'll have mercenaries (kroot, tarellians) and pirates (anhrathe, red corsairs/renegades, ork freebootaz) to round out mercenaries and pirates and then there is still no codex and dark eldar got 50% squatted and dark eldar and corsairs don't have full compatibility to make a Raper's wager but with corsairdar.
>>97568017In 3rd the Witch Hunter Codex made this dumb decision of making the Battle Sisters Squad 10 to 20. While the 2001 CA had them from 5 to 10.I understand why the increase the possibility of making bigger squads and why they didn't allow for said big squads to have more weapon options.What I do not get is why make them 10 to 20 and not 5 to 20. Is not like they are overlapping with storm troopers and you are going to take them regardless if you are running a pure Sister army for those Faith points.Also why the fuck did Retribution squad lost their heavy flamer options is still a mystery
>>97568052>Because he is still a renegade so he makes mental gymnastics why it's cool.That describes like half of the chaos legions
>>97568035Primal is cool and the 2003 clone wars cartoons where anakin was doing Jedi trials in the wild were cool your taste is bad and gay.
>>97567974>>97568029Don't care. Play with troops or quit.
>>97568011I do think a lot of troop tax complaints would be solved with expanding what qualifies as troops. There’s no reason why Infernus Marines or Hellblasters shouldn’t count as troops when they’rejust regular Marines holding different guns.
>>97568011yeah but if we look at armies, most will only have a single or maybe two troops.
>>97568073>>97568018Why would you want him to make a 40k show to focus on cavemen when the show he's already making is focused on cavemen?
>>97568083Another anon already bitched that we'd just see "counts as troops"
>>97568083The people that wants mandatory troops want them because they want every faction to field the "iconic" units. A Space Marine with a boltgun is iconic. One with a flamer is not.
>>97567728>why must my army contain rank and file soldiers instead of various iterations of brungo zapdick posing on rocks and coolguy super elites?Play crisis protocol.
So what factions have not already gotten something for the end of edition narrative campaign? Because we can probably predict the fourth book and what factions it will feature based on that. Probably Imperial Guard with yarick versus someone since we know he got a teaser in the grotmas articles?
>>97568029Ah marinefags the reason why people start playing 40k and blight of 40k. You could simply play a scenario with those... Like you know every historical does. The problem comes because people do not want to play wargames and get frustrated when a wargame does not work like their videogames.
>>97568073Learn to read, you mongoloid.
>>97568098Deldar
>>97568087That's exactly the kind of thinking that led to the initial statement that Eldar could only have Guardians and Necrons only Warriors. Troop doesn't need to be the most basic bitch standard unit in the book, just a unit that could reasonably make up the rank and file of a 40k sized force.Name me an army and I will name you at least three units that could reasonably be troops.
>>97568100anons keep saying this shit about a true wargame, can you show where that was ever defined
>>97568029Gw should have gone way harder on the "this unit counts as battleline while playing this themed detachment" thing.
>>97567041
>>97568107No new units, but they got their wytchcult bundle box alongside votann.
>>97568107Not going to happen. Corsairs probably counts for them as well as Eldar and they got a combo box anyway. Weird that they didn't get a Detachment to let them use Corsairs, but I think that's enough in gw's mind for them.
My idea on how to fix the army building for 11thFirst, expand unit roles. The old troops elites fast attack heavy support was good thirty years ago. Now we have a shitload of units that don't really qualify in each, creating things like characters that can be taken in elites, units that don't need a slot, or non mandatory troops. Current HH does a good job of having multiple battlefield roles that cover pretty much everything.And 2) keep the current detachment system but every detachment has some requirement in terms of army building, mainly required battlefield roles but other more niche detachment could have more specific units. So Gladius could have mandatory troops, the Raven Guard sneaky detachment might have a limit on how many heavy support you can take and so on.
>>97568132I think we need to make elite characters more of a thing, where your skittari blob can just buy a marshall as a sort of super sergeant, same thing with ancients and marines
>>97568100People that just homebrew scenarios with friends don't care about rules for army building in the first place. It's dumb to write rules for them.
>>97568132I like that second idea. Would prevent the stupid cases where the raven guard sneaky detachment is actually most efficient when running centurion spam to have them infiltrate onto the board.
>>97568132Oh yes, we need such distinguished roles as chaff, chunks, sweepers, objective monkeys, uppy downies, screeners, benchwarmers, overwatchers, mortal bombs, hull checks, indirect harassers, and trade pieces.
>>97568161Chaff existed when they made the one rule for cultists to not benefit from CSM rules
>>97568107Would be cool if they got Urien Rakarth and Grotesques back in a box just to finish out the edition, but their codex is only like 2 months old so I really doubt it.
>>97568132Keep it simple stupid
>>97568114A big part of a wargame is the: "simulation of an armed conflict" Another key aspect: "must have a setting that is based on some historical era of warfare so as to establish what armaments, unit types, and doctrines the combatants may wield and the environment they fight in."In other words, pretending to at least have an army that could least function is part of a wargame. How much autism and detail a simulation has is another subject altogether, but having armies that least look like an army is a very important aspect otherwise it stops being a wargame and ends being any other board game. Which is totally fine.
>>97568140It's the only ones that care anon. Hence why FOC is so cool
Are there rules for the red corsair infantry models? leaks, warcom posts or otherwise? The only thing that piques my interests in 40k right now is legionaries and maybe the new mutilators. I've been painting so much AoS and cute 3d prints, it's been months since i painted anything 40k and I rarely visit this thread anymore. >>97567002prettty sure they have their own detachment right? in the CSM book?they even have a plastic kit. Just run a shit ton of traitor guard. stick spikes to regular cadians and commissar and use a spiky leman russ as a chaos predator. sounds like a fun army project anon
>>97568118thats nothing compared to what we put at the end of the tau's pipeline
>>97568140most homebrew is little changes and fix, we're not all writing our own complete rulesets, that takes a ton of time
>>97568177Pretty sure even early on there were wargames that favored abstraction over simulation
>>97568188From what book is this?
>>97568188based admech
>>97568175>>97568161What is simpler? Having "troops", "support", "Retinues", "Commanders" and "High Commanders" or having Troops, Troops but can't be used to fill mandatory slots, "this unit doesn't take up a slot and can only be taken if you take a specific HQ", HQ, "Elite but you can take multiple of them in a single slot" and "HQ but can't be taken if you also take another HQ that has this same rule"?
>>97568188wtf I love admech now?
I was convinced we were going to get a new Badrukk. Then I saw the announcement this morning. It hurts.
what do you guys think of the new admech stuff?The new character just looks like the techpriest dominus. All the techpriests look too much the same. They look like a unit of 5 models that got split up into 5 characters.The Big brother skitarri are kind of boring but it's likely just the GW studio paint direction. eavy metal has gotten really boring for me. hopefully they have cool customization options like chaos terminators or nobs.
>>97568094That’d be pretty dumb to restrict it like that. The intended benefit behind the idea of compelling unit choices shouldn’t be using iconic units, it’d be compelling variety and enhancing flavor in list building. A Space Marine veteran’s detachment wouldn’t compel bringing a Tactical Squad because that’d make no sense, it’d compel bringing Veteran units. The whole reason why Raven Guard detachments ended up so strong in 10th is because while they were intended to confer benefits to a specific group of units that’d fit flavor-wise with the Chapter, people learned they could add the benefits to incredibly bulky units that the rules weren’t written for due to 10th’s lax list building rules. The solutions for this problem is to either strip the flavor out (the reason why people are even here) or write unit restrictions in like a troop tax that matches the detachment.
>>97568127Dark eldar can use up to 25% corsairs in any list except reapers wager
>>97568212Im priced out of admech so I dont get to have an opinion.
>>97568217Yeah, which is probably enough in GW's mind. But none of the units can benefit from any of the Detachment rules or the Army rule or the Stratagems or the Enhancements or use transports of any kind in that Army. So it's not really very good integration. They don't even have their own transport to bring over like the harlequins do.
>>97568190The kind of homebrew that guy is talking about is that if you want to play the Ultramarines first company going a last stand against the Tyranids in the First Tyrannic War then you just make a scenario in which that happens disregarding foc. That kind of games don't follow a FoC by their own nature.
>>97568194There are levels of simulation and abstraction. Im not going to post an entire essay to point out that anon is forgetting that in order to have a wargame you need to be a little bit more complex than just throwing "biker marines at everything" There is reason why 5th is called the downfall of 40k and why the marine codex that allowed stuff like "everyone is a biker now" was pretty much moving 40k away from being a wargame.
>>97567863People who are bitching about it are just doing it to get cheap (You)s.It's literally nothing but culture warrior retards desperately trying to bait for attention because they literally have nothing else going in their life.
>>97568212The new character looks good, but I'm more excited for her as a box of bits and a new datasheet/base size as an excuse to build another /mytechpriest/.The heavy skitarii look a bit off to me, but I have an idea >>97567881 that makes me excited for them.
>>97568206>what's simplerCharacters, troops, support.
>>97568177>In other words, pretending to at least have an army that could least function is part of a wargameThen remove the fucking Basilisks 50 feet being the frontline shelling people at point blank
>>97568244So 10th edition
>>97568246Sir this is 40k
>>97568212ill take blanchekino over Jes goodwins amazing flying circus any day
>>97567212please do
>>97568246>anon can't think of a scenario where the enemy is very close to your artillery.
>>9756824910th is epic heroes, elites, mass vehicles thoughbeit
>>97568260The foc of 10th edition is literally characters, troops, everything else.
>>97568212>The new character just looks like the techpriest dominusThanks for clarifying that you're unqualified to speak on the subject.
>>97568262and when I fight little timmy's dark angels at the flgs I'm up against Lion, Azrael, lieutenant with combi-melta, DWK, DWK, Lancer
>>97568259>Anon can't think of a scenario in which the Marines are all on bikes
>>97568270So 3 characters, 2 troops and 1 everything else?
>>97568279nothing that makes marines marines
>>97568271Marinesfags should face the wall
>>97568284What has this to do with the simplicity level of how many battlefield roles you have in the foc?
Kill Chaos
>>97568289>Anon can't think of a scenario in which the Tyranid force is all infiltrators or the Tau force is all BattlesuitsHappier now?
>>97568212unexpected cool enough but redundantnice buttFIRES OF CYRAXUS FUCKING WHEN?!
>>97568249OP hereNo. If you have to put limits on the amount of identical units you can take, there's something wrong with your system. Unique characters being the exception.
>>97568212I think the magos is great and I will converting the shit out of her.I have gotten a bit better at converting since my last Magos
>>97568299You realize of course that all foc systems have limits on the amount of identical units you can take right?
>>97568295People will say that the aesthetics clash between these models and then point to something like Eldar or Orks and say that's perfectly fine in 40K
>>97568262Not quite. There's not a minimum of troops, instead they get twice as many repeats even though you won't ever use them and the "rest" don't have per-datasheet limits so it boils down to taking 3 of the best datasheets over and over.
>>97568295>so come back next week and bask in the shadow of armoured glory.
>>97568318I fear this just means more IW.
>>97568231maybe the four people here pretend 5th is the downfall in some metaphoric sense, but if people enjoy the "less wargamey" side than that's how its gonna be, can't have a game without players and very famously telling people "no you can't" doesn't bode very well
>>97568309The most important difference between 10th and the old FOC is that several units share the same slot. You couldn't just take 12 tanks because they are all heavy support. So you had to choose, making more varied lists with less spam. Most 10th lists would be completely illegal with the old system purely because of how many heavy support or elite spam 10th allows.
>>97568295It's amazing how seamless the 30k and 40k admech rosters fit together unitwise. Fuck GW for their segregation I want all the 30k units in the 40k codex.
>>97568318>>97568327It's Imperial Knights. We had leaks a month ago about the last two campaign books. Eye of Terror is supposed to be Iron Warriors against Admech and Imperial Knights.
>>97568327Lol
>>97568328Just pointing out that calling 40k a wargame; would be like calling Serbia, Yugoslavia because at one point it was.
>>97568333Ok I got what you are saying. You are saying that having limits on the amount of identical units you can take in addition to the normal limits in unit roles then there is something broken, not that you should be able to take a unit unlimited times. Correct? In which case I partially agree. A specific limit for some units (the old 0-1) can still be a good thing.
>>97568318knoight
>>97568098Grey Knights. Kaldor Draigo is coming back from the warp (with Russ). Both factions are on Armageddon right now which is where the last campaign book is taking place.
>>97568328>but if people enjoy the "less wargamey" side than that's how its gonna beMy take on this is that the newer editions are bad. Not bad enough to make people stop playing, but worse than 3rd-5th and if given the chance, most of the people that actually know how the rules were back then (not the newfags that comlpain about rules they have never read) would prefer to go back.
>>97568212>They look like a unit of 5 models that got split up into 5 characters.They should do a seer's council of techpriests, each one a magos from their respective subcult. It could even be a kill team.
>>97568333Even in the with the basic bitch FOC.In for example Imperial Guard with 2000 points (strange points I know, usually played at 1000 or 1500).You rarely see triple Leman Russ, worst case was double Leman Russ and a Demolisher which in this edition was different enough with its siege armor, and Plasma canon side sponsor.Usually the fast attack slow was filled with hellhound since you could use the HQ support slots for sentinels or other things like support squads or heavy weapons squads.
>>97568098rumors had mention of trazyn
>>97568379Not every fucking faction needs a command squad. I'm already tired of seeing the five specialist dudes in a row unit getting added to every faction.
>>97568376bad by what metric, if your metric is just this idea of a true wargame you can't expect everyone to magically agree its bad when people don't want a true wargame.
>>9756837640k has never felt the shock of something like warhammer fantasy end of times.So the average player can't break free from the shackles of FOMO
>>97568328I think you might be undervaluing the ability to say no in this context. Telling a player they can’t bring twelve tanks in a list isn’t actually gonna affect most players because most people don’t own that many tanks. In the case troops, I think it’d be fine to tell a player they can’t bring Deathwing spam in a detachment meant for Vanguard units if they also have a Deathwing detachment that serves them.
>>97568401if theres a neat rules trick with deathwing in vanguard let em have it, my job as a player isn't to be fun police
>>97568391There should be a Command unit. If it is a squad or a model will depend from army to army and model to model.Something like the old Command Squads that many armies had. You could run the HQ model alone or buy him a command squad. If run him alone he could either fight alone or join random squads in the army.Old Imperial Guard had Command Squad by default, but it also had a character in there that you could make into your own guy. While things like LatD had this schizo guy that could even have dogs
>>97568395That's just your assumption. The fact is that most of the 10th edition playerbase has only played 10th and knows shit about the older editions other than some vague idea that they were complicated and outdated because that's what GW told them in their marketing.
>>97568405There is definitely a crime occuring that should involve the fun police if they are bringing a dozen or two of deathwing
>>97568098Tau and Tyranids are a given.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/pinglgrx/world-championships-preview-new-champions-get-stuck-into-close-range-brawls-in-warhammer-40000/
>>97568391I don't really care I want more techpriests, the game itself is shit right now anyway.
>>97568395Its kind of the issue.>go into a hamburger place and get mad that they sell you hamburgers>change things so it no longer sells hamburgers>still call the it a hamburger place>get mad when people point out it no longer is a hamburger placeCall it a boardgame it's fine, but can we stop pretending current 40k is even a wargame.Hell the current point system is not even a point system but the Power Level system wearing the skin of the old point system.
>>97568365Mostly yes. The biggest factor is that the FOC limits both the individual datasheet and the whole category. So you can take 3 repulsors, for example, but doing so means you can't take any other heavy support. It disincentivizes spam while still allowing some limited spam if that's what you wanna lean on.
>>97568414The best incarnation of that was 5th edition Necron Royal Court. You had a. Unit that was 0-5 Lords and 0-5 Crypteks, each of which could be kitted out independently with a shitload of options. Then you could choose to field it as a single unit or to separate it in a bunch of individual sergeants that attached themselves to units.
>>97568432The problem is that most people that use the word wargame don't consider its definition as strictly as you do.
>>97568441That was like the old Farseer and Warlocks worked for eldars during 3rd. Every single warlock was a character that could be thrown into another unit. GW has not had a single original idea since the OG guys left after 4th
>>97568391Command squads are cool when they are super customizable retinues for your hq. When they are a mismatch of random schizo fixed loadouts like they are doing now it becomes a problem.
>>97568448Yes people have issue figuring out what is a women. We live in terrible times.
>>9756843240k is, by definition, not a boardgame, because it doesn't use a board.
>>97568469>For 10th Edition Warhammer 40,000, the standard, recommended board size is 44 inches by 60 inches
>>97568457So you are saying that something that in the past was a thing but currently disfigured and altered itself to distance itself from what it was in the past should still be called what it was in the past even if it chopped out the elements that marked it as so?
>Their right arms are replaced with gyroscopically stabilised gun mounts wired directly into their cortical circuits, giving them uncanny accuracy>BS 4+
>>97568212CRIMSON SLAUGHTER!!!MY BOYS!!!
>>97568441Personally I liked the Dark Eldar version where you have 0-4 Courtesan Poisoners, 0-4 Muscle Snake Guards, 0-4 Ghoul Attack Hounds, and 0-4 Medusa Sentries and could craft your court to fit whatever vision you had for your paranoid mafioso king.
>>97568474My mistake. I wrote it doesn't use a board, it was correct to say it doesn't need a board.
>>97568482Technically you do not need a board for Twilight Imperium either. But it is still a boardgame even though the thing is closer to a wargame than current 40k. Which I find extremely bizarre
>>97568476The cortical wiring was outsourced to ratling contractors on the cheap.
>>97567201>>97567203We generally would have a load of terrain, then we’d take turns placing it piece by piece before the game, before we had decided who had which side of the board. Worked quite well as a fun and fair system.
>>97568371>>97568346its big cope but im hoping its an admech only knight so they can have a proper in-codex super heavy with an army rule that isn't subject to whatever garbage soup rules the current edition imposes
>>97568491>Technically you do not need a board for Twilight Imperium eitherThat's retarded
>>97568476The game needs to move to a d10
>>97568517Nah. Tables existed for a reason. Also the heavy weapon rule in 10th sucks massive balls.
>>97567096Mindbroken in 3 words
>>97568496I recalls games when I was younger with waacfags that place terrain beforehand and sat on the side with better terrain. Usually I just picked the other side since I was like "he is already there it would be rude to make him move". My young mind did not comprehend that an older guy would try to waacfag in a doll game. Happen a few times till I figure out it was just them being assholes and why people avoided playing with them.I did not need GW to change the rules to tell this fuckers to fuck off though I simply told them we are placing terrain again and choosing side like non assholes.
>>97568517With the direction the game has gone, using D10s wouldn't make it any more interesting
>>97568522But we could solve practically all the problems with a d10...
i forgot to paint todayim sorry
>>97568534Not really there's nothing that can be fixed with a change of dice because D6 don't cause any issue in the game.
there, done
>>97568098>>97568107Orks are due somethingNecrons and Tau are off, they got a pity hero alreadyBoth Eldar were covered with Corsairs, Ultras already covered SM, CSM got a lot already... And Orks would fit with Armageddon
>>97568553incredible work anon, well done
>>97568553Brilliant stuff
>>97568553You were really successful on the wings. it looks good
>>97568553Big nigga fistbump, anon. Outstanding work.
>>97568559Orks got a new Detachment and a MTO run of Badrukk and such.
Who was yitten last thread? I missed the action.
>>97568559assuming orks get a release right before 11th I'd assume it's gonna be a new set of models for flash gitz, or really just about any of the ork shooty units i do fully expect a badrukk model soon considering the MTO
>>97568603Wouldn't that be evil? Badrukk mto and then release an updated sculpt unannounced? Not sure James would be capable of such deception.
Custodes bros, are you okay?Someone should really check on them. Be sure to step over the corpses of the Eldar players on the way there.
>>97568618>GW would never run a MTO of model just before cancelling or replacing itFirst time?
>>97568619Christ, when I last looked win rates were all 45-55% basically except agentsWhat the fuck happened
>>97568618baiting people into buying badrukk for the sake of collection then releasing a new one just feels like an incredibly corporate thing to do
>>97568625Yes, because what anon described literally never happened before
>>97568619Am I blind? Where are the Space Wolves?
>>97568642Cease, mutant.
TQ:Cadians, krieg and Catachans all have plastic ranges already.That leaves (from the big regiments) Mordians, Tallahans, Armageddon Steel Legion, Elysian drop troops, vostroyan first borns.I think steel legion are the most kino of those. Also with the 11th edition going back to Armageddon maybe that’ll be what they do? They’re probably the only ones I’d buy. Actually looked at some the ther day on eBay but they were ludicrously expensive
>>97568642Squatted
>>97568642nobody cares about your furry homosexuals, sorry
Any anons got 4th ed cities of death pdf they’d share with the board?
>>97568632https://stats.hutber.com/factionsHutber's stats are always a little fuckey compared to all the other data sets and I'm not quite sure why. But this particular one is just looking at the last week which was a holiday weekend in the Americas and had extremely low player counts. So the stats are especially silly and more meaningless than usual.
>>97568647>>97568653>>97568655Act like normal 40k enthusiasts you freak wretches
>>97568659you first pedofaggot
>>97568663>pedofaggotYou use this word so much that I'm starting to wonder about you creep
>>97568619Those women custodes definitely bolstered their forces.
>>97568553Bretty gud
>>97568670nobody uses that wordwhat a strange self-report
>>97568632>What the fuck happenedadded female soldiers...
>>97568670>no u!nonce
>>97568642Nobody played them last week.
>>97568553wow this guy is utterly tubular, great paint job fren.
>>97568681Doesn't explain eldar or dark eldar who've had women since the 1990s
>>97568642>Where are the Space Wolves?Listed under Space Marines because nobody ran any of the Space Wolves Detachments and only used Gladius with Space Wolves units. Just a silly problem everyone has with reporting space marine data because they report it by Detachment and not units used.
>>97568680>haha I'm going to look up random shit in the archiveLiterally the most faggot action on the planet. Genuinely kill yourself.
>>97568656https://limewire.com/d/xGzya#oVZ1yAjwQS
>>97568689I fucking knew our stupid boast stuff was utter dog shit, gdi how dare they neuter us like this. >>97568682>>97568680stfu you weird scumlords
>>97568702
>>97568717You must have accidentally crossed a mirror anon, you fat pig.
>>97567166https://files.catbox.moe/gbtwdg.pngthat's the latest high res one i could find in the archive
>>97568619God damn they hit Eldar hard. Did Drukhari catch some strays too or are they just that shit after their codex?
>>97568721Projection, we know you're a hamplanetoid
>>97568726I wouldn't mind landing a spot on the fridge if there is some new avenue for redemption now that the former unhinged manager has been purged(Thank god).
>>97568735fuck off
>>97568733Dark eldar codex was undercooked and its way too complicated to get the army to do anything. Even Skari is struggling
>>97568735you already got your reply earlier, kill yourself
>>97568735Sure Livestream you blowing your brains out and we'll add an in memory pic for you
>>97568735Take a shotgun and put it in your mouth
>tfw want to request my model on the fridge>hesitant to request after seeing how they treated decalfag for no reason
>>97568738>>97568742>>97568737these type of actions and responses surrounding the fridge community is why it was teetering even before Lamenter anon got skewered.
>>97568749(you)
>>97568749>no reasonlol>>97568752>immediately jumps to seethingyou're so fucking transparent lmao, it's actually pretty funny
The fridge was going fine until you drove out fridge anon by being an annoying faggot here 20 hours a day
>>97568749You’ll be fine, he deserved it.
>>97568680>archivefag
>>97568762She was rarely posting it and was instead engaging in a massive smear campaign against me and other modelers while pretending to be above all the drama, total twisted authoritarian manipulation and the mods saw right through her schemes.
>>97568741>its way too complicated to get the army to do anythingWut. Is it like AdMech bad where you need six layers of buffs to do only okay damage and then still position everything within 6" and get shot of the board instantly when you step on an objective?
>>97568754>>97568759Strawmanning someone into becoming "literally satan" isn't a reason. Decalfag did nothing wrong, and I'm tired of being silent about it.
>>97568772trying too hard
>>97568749you just have to share all political and social opinions with them and you'll be fine anon, just don't ever speak your mind.
>>97568770Basically yes. The army rule is basically 23 extra unit locked strategems that use pain tokens not cp, half of which were free abilities in the index.It's a mess
>>97568772>>97568769>>97568779trying too hard
>>97568749>>97568772post your own models right now.
>>97568777>>97568778His models don't look too bad. You hate him because you've turned him into something to hate in your head.
>>97568784>trying too hardOne of her favorite utterances..curious
>>97568788(you)>>97568789>Trust me I know who's posting what at all timesYou are a genuine schizophrenic
>>97568788Nta but the thread hates him for being an obnoxious lying cunt.
>>97568699thanks dawg
>>97568789>>97568788trying too hard
This image is once again relevent.
>>97568792You're the liar, spreading falsities and rumors to damage peoples reputations beyond repair and secretly reveling in your schemes.
>>97568792>thread hates himthe thread hates the retards that are using the witch hunt as justification to shitpost incessantly about this faggot drama
>>97568791>haha I'm going to pretend that his work isn't above the average painted model here, let alone the average painted model in generalAgain, you're letting a random dude online hemmorage your brain.
>>97568782>>97568770Like the other anon said, pic related is basically the new army rule. Which is both way more complex than "reroll all hits in the army" and way weaker on average.
>>97568795If you want some other book from RT or 3rd I probably have it. Other editions I don't have as much but ask away.
Post models
>>97568788i hate his tasteless use of decals and the yellow thats slapped all over his transports and the ss bolts
>>97568809>his work isn't above the average painted model here, let alone the average painted model in generalit isn't, most people here are capable of painting the entire model, which the mutant cannot ever doeven on his centerpieces he can't be bothered to paint in the details lmao
>>97568819>>97568817You're both vile slime, post your stellar models for comparison.
>>97568769>She
>>97568809He's got moldlines and nubs out the ass, and badly applied decals over an airbrushed base coat, it's 3/10 stuff
>>97568789>her
>>97568819>mutantYour wrath taints your whole post and shows your true colors. He literally paints better than my work, and I'm trying really hard to improve. Seeing this weird fucking vitriol towards him for no good reason and calling his painting garbage discourages the fuck out of me and makes me not want to post here.
>>97568840Fuck off to a reddit hugbox then
>>97568840you have no models
>>97568619EC bros I dun feel so good
>>97568840>Seeing this weird fucking vitriol towards him for no good reason and calling his painting garbage discourages the fuck out of me and makes me not want to post here.Good. We don't want you to.
>>97568840(you)
>>97568817>ss bolts>Nazis Bad :'(Kys
>>97568857Election tourists like (you) get the rope
>>97568840POST YOUR MODELS RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU CUNT OR OUT YOURSELF AS DECALFAG FALSEFLAGGING
>>97568845>>97568848>>97568851>>97568856My bad. Meant to say makes me not want to post models. You're going to deal with me posting.
>>97568619BAchads stay winning
>>97568859>Tourist Been here longer than you and I'll be here long after you slit your wrists in the coming months, bud.
>>97568840You’re a sweetheart anon, ty for the kind words and I am sure that your models are lovely and worthy of admiration.
>>97568872>>97568862Samefag
>>97568871you've only been here for 10 years maximum
Which hivefleet produces the best waifu?
>>975688973 of these are pedo coded
>>97568897Imagine a blood angel scout marine on a couch surrounded by five leviathan girls
>the forced narrative is challenged >instant seethe, samefaggotry and requests of models to identify the anon to harass him further
>>97568904Silence mutant.
>>97568904you're really desperate for attention tonight huh lil guy
>>97568861>You MUST POST YOUR MODELS WHILE I'M SEETHING ABOUT MODELS AND YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE HESITANT TO POST MODELS BECAUSE OF MY ACTIONS OR YOU HAVE NO MODELS No, I don't think I will.
>>97568897Behemoth my beheloved.
>>97568912Ha! So you admit you are Decalfag. Awesome, thanks.
He's got a sockpuppet now
>>97568897Bottom left corner and bottom right corner can consume all the biomass on my planet any day.
>>97568902Kronus coded>>97568903Ouroboris>>97568918I'm sorry but hyrda>>97568924Jormungandr
>>97568918>beheloved Kek, you’re so stupid
>>97568910>>97568911Holy shit the schizophrenia Wrong guy
>>97568921You let decalfag live rentfree in your head.
>>97568943>>97568910
I hadn't come here in a couple of months because this incessant derailing about the decalfag means discussion about anything else is impossible. Seems like nothing has changed so good luck guys, you're killing the general and bleeding posters with this nonsense. I'll miss the tg deathwatch dude hopefully I'll get to see your dudes somewhere else.
>>97568941I didn't say you were anybody specificWeird that you felt called out like that
>>97568934Are you saying my personality fits the Jormungandr, anon? I don’t know anything about tyranids. Maybe I should look into them as a 3rd army I play EC and CK
sucks for gw, I want to replace my tires since they're 6 years old. Won't have cash to spend on 300 dollars of little plastic men.
>>97568921Fine, you happy now? Just haven’t finished the base on the right one yet.
>>97568948(You)
>>97568947Deranged. Decalfag doesn't make the threads worse. You do. This actual schizophrenia and obsession about the dude enables it to literally ruin the thread.
>>97568953>Fine, you happy now?Yes. You are cleared of all charges. Be free, decalfagless and free.
>>97568902>she only emerged in 745.M41 you sick fuck
>>97568952James’ kids are going hungry tonight because of you you bastard
>>97568948Can you just leave without making a scene? We would rather not remember you exist, ty.
Reminder that the Votann would have defeated the Great Crusade era Imperium if they wanted to.
>>97568951no just the last number of your post
>>97568958This guy should run the fridge
>>97568968Let the mutant run the fridge? Madness.
>>97568948>>97568958you and the mutant killed our general
>>97568962No, I'm going to come back tomorrow and complain about decalfag at the same time and bring him up and watch the shitstorm again, just like clockwork. All because you people let a random guy live so powerfully in your subconscious that he controls your posting.
>>97568964then how did they get eaten by nids so easily?
>>97568968>>97568962>>97568958Samefag
>>97568897Is there a Hive fleet moloch one?
>>97568975meant for >>97568975
State of this
every fucking threadjesus christ just stop replying to him and talking about him
>>97568993general is dead anyways, no reason to try and save it at this point
>>97568980Damn, but that narrative tho
>>97568977Don't bother, anon does that all on his own already.
>>97568964Source: Ma bum
>>97568993I asked anonymous to post models but he ignored me
CAUSE I'M A WALL BUILDER YES I AM!
>>97568987that art is behemoth
>>97568953These are pretty nice and unironically better than the sloppers. They're not coffeestained to hell and back and have some actually brushed on highlights, you have 0 reason to be hesitant to post your stuff. Keep at it, anon.
>>97568993They can't. They fucking can't and that's my entire fucking *point*. It's exhausting. He's exhausting. This obsession is exhausting. Painting him as literally satan is exhausting. Referring him as either the second coming of christ or the worst painter possible is exhausting. Saying his models look like trash, 2/10 when everyone knows it's a solid 5/10 is exhausting. It makes discussion worse in every way here. Just drop it. Just drop him. Just ignore him. Leave it all alone.
>>97568993He samefags sometimes so its really hard to tell when its genuine interaction or not.
>>97568968Shut the fuck up decalfag
>>9756899350% of this is him samefagging
>>97568993Its not me you slumdog, its these retards who raid from other boards because they are bored or something. They cook up these schemes on discord and shit.>>97569024You will be punished at some point for your lies and trickery you sleazy greaser
>>97568993stop falseflagging, decalfag
>>97569014Shut the fuck up decalfag, right this instant.
>>97569008I didnt think there was any official art for moloch just that one white dwarf mag?
Hive fleet cthulu
Everything is decalfag's fault. Misjudge a paintbrush stroke and fuck up a model? Decalfag did it.Model looks like shit when you're done? Decalfag's the culprit.Stub your toe? Decalfag did it.Miss rent and about to be homeless? It's Decalfag's fault.
They’re doing this on purpose to defame him, just ignore them and they will get bored and find another board to spoil.
>>97568816
>>97569047There’s at least one guy here who actually feels this way sadly
>>97568816Have a grot :)
>>97569060>>97569070Awesome models fellas
>>97569045Hive Fleet Dagon already exists
>>97569004https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o3SZee4YZX8
What are your favorite lesser known csm warbands
>>97569127Crimson Slaughter
>>97568816NiceMight paint some Corsair rangers tomo, feel like the Eldritch raiders probably had some rangers join them at some point. Are they part of a craft world?
>>97569127The Purge
>>97569090Thanks, buddy. I like yours too.
>>97569060>>97569070Look like shit compared to my wolves
how do you people not get bored of doing this every single day, I don't understand
>>97568795
>>97568553
>>97569129They're cool, but would they really be considered lesser known if they were the starter army scheme for 6ha & 7th and got their own supplement?
>>97569139No ones buying your little false flag cretin
>>97569169Don't pretend to be me you unhinged freak
it's been years and my soul is still screaming. Why did these CUNTS put a bunch of primaris randos in this box instead of Deathwing Knights Deathwing commander and 6 inner circle. Fucking faggots.
>>97569173You’ve stooped to a brand new low
>>97569039some of those catachans appear to be zombies.
>>97569177because those kits sell and don't need the upgrade sprues they throw in to pump up "value".
>>97569177because they wanted to make a good combat patrol and then throw in soome dark angel upgrade sprues to meet quota
>>97569177Anon, those boxes aren't meant to be good deals to people expanding their existing armies. They're meant to be ways of looking like a good deal to people starting that army by repackaging kits that aren't selling well enough on their own.
>>97569183
>>97568688Those are xenos.
>>97569213Ah, I see. No Xenos army has ever had human women in it so they have remained pure.
>>97569223Well, not quite true...
>>97569230based vect eatin good
>>97569223And GSC are not humans but tyranids LARPing as humans.
>>97569201I do not have that one. Did it had rules?
Every "postmodels"fag is decalfag samefagging so he has an excuse to keep posting his putrid shit
>>97569230To the GW N-words who browse this thread- if you remove Vect's slave girls from his new model in 11th or 12th edition, I will get 3d printed big titty bitches and put them on there prominently. Catgirls and vtubers and your mom. Do not toy with me.
>>97569177i'm not sure why you're complaining that's the best space marine combat patrol out of all of them
>>97569271What if they give him one hot slave girl model and a hot slave twink?
>>97569288I don't want your ugly gravis models. i want a themed army with ravenwing and deathwing.
>>97569310good thing nobody gives a shit what some whiny toddler wants
>>97568313>>97568342I think if you painted all of them in the same style and shade of red they would fit seamlessly. Much of how we perceive the quality of a model or sculpt is atributed to how they're painted and the colors used.kind of like how the new AoS chorfs and the TS bird bots benefitted from a palette swap
>700 posts Was it a good thread?
>>97569333there hasn't been a good thread in 2 years
>>97569320>AoS chorfs>benefitted from a palette swapnope
>>97569320There is actually nothing wrong with the Forge Anathema paint scheme.
>>97569335clearly they do since they're selling out nonstop
>>97569343So as sigmarines.
When’s Killteam getting a new edition? The past 2 have been unfiltered dogshit that got progressively worse.
>>97569361>ESL>hates kino chorvesevery time
>>97569373>kino>angular armor>cannons barrowed from IG>worships incel deity
>>97569386yeah you're describing kino
>>97569333>decalseethingAutomatically a maximum of a 4/10 thread.
>>97569390I see.
So the Eye of Terror is going to have another CSM Detachment, an AdMech Detachment, and a Knights Detachment...What are the other three Detachment going to be?The Maelstrom had a theme of "pirates" for all their Detachments. Is Eye going to have them all based around mechanized forces?
>>97569389Only if you've been bitten by Zack Snyder.Which explains why your only argument is "kino"
>>97569334Why don’t you leave then?>>97569390You’re the one seething
>>97569437mmm yes keep seething about a faction you didn't know about before a shitty RTS added them as DLC
>>97569371It will never get better. It will always be 100% no customizable models with terrible esports rules trash.
>>97569445Nta but come on, TWW is pretty fun. It's actually what reeled me back into the hobby a couple years ago
>>97569447Sad. But probably true. >>97569452It’s dogshit famalam. Dominions is better. Total war peaked with shogun 2.
>>97569445Cope seethe and dilate, WoW rapebaby.
>>97569472>It's the towjeet againEvery fucking time lmfao
>>97569472You're the only one seething though?
>>97569410Demon Engines versus Admech’s vehicles probably
>>97569478That's pretty rich, from /aosg/-tourist>>97569481It's not me who was traumatised by TWW series and the fact that GW decided to make 2 armies for video games players.
>>97569494holy ESL
While we’re on the topic of tww, I do not expect anyone to shit and cum over tw40ks story. Hell as someone who played tw3 for 1000 hours I can’t tell you what the story for the story was aside from Daniel being turned into a butt slut for chaos. I’m also genuinely worried that it’s going to kill the perception of rts as a whole by normies.
>>97569504Story for the realms of chaos* Phone posting is lame, I don’t advise it.
>>97569260Kinda I think it had some more details in another mag but I cant find it at the moment. page 64https://gofile.io/d/WvEtBn
>>97569472This will be your new Wu Lin Legendary Lord.
>>97569361>So as sigmarines.The Space Marine equivalents? They sold that well?
>>97569522I fucking wish. Maybe Cathay would finally be interesting.
>console>R>T>S
>>97569545Oh yeah. Yeah it’s fucking dead.
>>97569538>t. cow-fucker
>>97569545they did the halo wars ones which also went on consoles so they have experience (though I imagine most of the talent has long left that shithole) it'll probably be super dumbed down and boring if wh3 is anything to go by.
>>97569552That's the best we can expect. We can only hope it's at best a Halo Wars 3 in a 40k skin.
>>97569545Oh fuck I never even saw that in the announcements. Motherfucker
>>97569201moloch, thats antisemetic
>>97569545I don't think total war games are that much inhibited by slower console APM.Unless were talking about hardware then>average PC user hardwareI'm still using a 3070ti and I am not changing for anything at the moment.
>>97569653It's not just the hardware and needing to render everything. It's also everywhere from the controls, to the market for it and what changes to the control scheme to adapt it, etc.
>>97569552Halo wars was shit though
This is me dancing on the grave of Total War Warhammer 40k.
can you /v/aggots fuck off back to your containment board thanks
Ill take /v/ over avatar fagging tyvm.
>>97569692You know Morrowind was a console game too right?
>>97569715Not being an RTS makes all the meaningful differences. That and PC is where all the mods are.
>>97569715First person works better on console. Strategy Games with overhead cameras and 20+ keybinds and APM and issuing precise orders to multiple different units don't work without kb&m unless they're simplified into a-move hell like halo wars.
>>97569747>>97569746As a career silver league player, I promise you a select all units button and an attack move button are all that the majority of the playerbase of most RTS games will ever need. I doubt most of the fanbase even uses more than two control groups.
>>97569780Have you played a total war game before? They don't work like that. Or at least they haven't until now
>>97569794Nah, I play actual Warhammer
>>97569780What has this got to do with tabletop warhammer?
>>97568993Better question to ask is why the mods refuse to do anything.
>>97569823I'm thinking the people screeching about /v/ faggots infesting might have a point, honestly.
>>97569823As a career RTT third-placer, I promise you a 4++ save and 30 wounds are all that the majority of the players of most armies will ever need. I doubt most of the fanbase even uses more than two battleline units.
>taucoom threads on /v/ explode after they find out total war 40k is moddableyou lose /tg/ your hobby is ours now
>>97569841you should get tts and try out 40k, you might have fun and want to get into the hobby more.
>>97569850But anon, that would imply enough interest from modders.
>>97569827Don’t try and discombobulate the bees nest hours later you annoying prick
>>97569894>>97569894>>97569894
>>97569864as a total war WHFB player, modders went absolutely nuts with that game.
>>97567041What's the base size? Just so I can kitbash one magos.
