>>97617967who gives a fuck, their art has always been trash
>SadDoesn't bother me at all
>>97617967This isn't twitter, tranny. There is no dysfunctional pro-artist crusade going on here, artists fucking suck and deserve no sympathy you dumb fuck.
speaking of ai card art i'm always surprised when i see WIP/process images for hearthstone cards. They're so fucking horrible (and have been for years) that they should just cut out the middleman and go full AI. Literally would be an improvement.pic not related ofc, i always actually thought mtg art was good, some of the lands are legitimately beautiful
>>97617971meanwhile
>>97617967is that from standard too or mtga onlyanyway, wouldnt be surprisedwizards are trash
>>97617971wip art is based. genuinely this is the wrong hobby for you, that or you should play more than trash like MTG
>>97617967how can you tell?
>>97617974i like WIP as much as the next person, to clarify the hearthstone art is so shitty that I'm surprised to be reminded it *isn't* AI
>>97617967Hasn't this happened at least 2 other times, and both times they said it wouldn't happen again? I respect the hussle, they know the fans won't remember past a year kek>>97617971One of my fav AI artists used to(or still does idk) make dragon pics like that. They were so cool.
Don't they have enough fags to do gay illustrations?
>>97617967Feels like they have completely shit the bed with MTG, theyve made so many goofy sets in rapid succession that it makes me wonder if theyre trying to tank the IP and do a runner when they say "were not making any more" which would automatically make every card more valuable. The game itself has no consistency and is fucked now.
>>97617970>wa wa wa wa consumes art every day
>>97617967>he someone missed the memo when this happened like 10+ times alreadyThey'll sweep it under the rug like always. The first set where this first happened was Wilds of Eldraine
jannies should move the recurring upset about the AI general to /vg/
>>97617967What was the outcome of the shareholder lawsuit against Hasbro for shirking their fiduciary duty by destroying MtG?
>>97617982nigger
>>97617974is windmill strike a good card? just waiting multiple turns to gain +50% damage seems bad compared to cycling through your deck.
>>97617982sucks (for you) that you're not a jany
>>97617985It's literally infinite value you fucking retard
>>97617979>fucked now>now
>>97617987assuming you wait infinitely? who has the time for that?
>>97617967Doesn't shock me. Most of the TMNT cards look ai generated.
>>97617985Retain doesn't prevent you from drawing cards unless you're at the max hand size. Chances are that you have no energy/wrath to use windmill strike initially when you draw it anyway. It's fucking good.
>MTG is now a trash filled kitchen sink of crossover slop stacked to the celiing>for some reasons there is still a desire in my soul to collect the Final Fantasy set (in Japanese) just because the art actually looks cool.
>>97617974If you keep it in the hand, it's effectively 4 damage per turn. That's the same as a shiv, so it's like playing Infinite Blades. Though keeping it in hand isn't a totally neutral proposition since Watcher tends to have hand clog issues.After 4 turns in hand (an eternity for Watcher), it's now equal to Sands of Time but costs 2 instead of 0.
>>97617967>artifact>colored mana>colored cardI puked a little.
>>97617988I havent played in like 10 years, it use to be fine. It seems like theyre a rapid firing new sets out and they look like jokes, and then you see that they are actually considered compatible and part of everyones decks.MTG use to be a setting, now its the equivelent of Fortnite in card game form.
>>97617967I would take AI art over the "real" art they made for LoTR.Die in a fire.
>>97617985It's probably Watcher's worst card besides the meme rares.
A lot of the TNMT set art is disgustingly awful, there is no way anyone with a sound mind would sign off and pay anyone for it.
>>97617970kill yourself you AIjeet menace
>>97617967it's so over xisters
Their art has been generic artstation trash for over a decade
How do you genuinely tell this is AI? The way the guacamole is distributed on the pizza & the fact that the rat is weirdly half burried in it is weird for sure
>>97617992>>for some reasons there is still a desire in my soul to collect the Final Fantasy setGoyslave.
SO IS NO ONE GOING TO FUCK THAT RAT?
>>97618002The one thing that seems to be immediately obvious is that the box makes no fucking sense but that could also be the artist being a fucking retard
>>97617999>Jeets calling people not them jeets despite the jeets being the most prolific anti-AI retardsWhat the fuck is actually wrong with you dysfunctional cunts?
>>97617980Exactly, so I'm not just talking out of my ass when I say artists are fucking insufferable and deserve no sympathy, now fuck off, dog.
>>97618006>jeets being the most prolific anti-AI retardsWell that's just not true at all, the majority of people both using and developing ai are jeets.
>>97617967What the fuck is the power level of this, holy fuck.
>>97618008White people develop AIJeets are getting replaced by AI the most
>>97617989>who has the time for that?Watcher? The funnest Watcher deck I ever made involved multiple Vaults and Sands of Time.
>>97618009I'm not a magic player, but is untapping a creature during combat possible in a way which allows that creature to attack again? If not then this is just a +2/+2 which lets you waste mana on healing yourself if you ever need it. It doesn't sound good to me.
>>97618010Haha okay bro, sure.
>>97617994Does this also make you puke?
>>97618012there is no second attack phase so no you can't attack again unless you have some combo running. but untapping allow you to reuse a tap skill so there is definitely some potential there. I assume the +2/+2 can help by survivin the damages you took .
>>97618012You can only attack once regardless of whether a creature is tapped or untapped. But when your opponent attacks you can untap AND pump one of your creatures to kill theirs with by blocking it. And that's before getting into questions like "why the fuck does it have flash?", or its interactions with tap abilities, or the fact that artifacts interact positively with fucking everything these days. AND it can be sacrificed to gain life on the same turn it enters, and JUST to top it off it can target your opponent's creatures too to enable even more interactions.The fact that this card is a common makes me want to fucking vomit. One big reason I stopped playing Magic was that cards were just too fucking tiresome to play with. Too many words, too many abilities, too many things to learn and remember.
>>97618013I accept your concession.
>>97618011I guess I play it differently then. for me the watcher is a class where I constantly shit out my hand and cycle through my deck due to the absurd mana gain and draw power it has. and in the ideal case scenario I just go infinite.retaining a 2-cost damage card in my hand never feels good because I constantly draw into my hand limit. a 2-mana deal 11-23 damage is simply worse than drawing better cards during the course of 2-4 turns.
>>97618017You accept deez nuts in yo mouth.
>>97617967>guac and marshmallow pizzaThis bothers me way more than AI usage The fuck happened to MTG? When did it become this normieslop full of jokes and modern references that doesnt even pretend to be a serious fantasy setting? Admittedly last time I played MTG was during the 7th edition, but what the fuck
>>97617968>their art has always been trashbait used to be believableunless you meant specifically art on arena, then yeah. Nu-mtg art is dogshit
>>97618016>But when your opponent attacks you can untap AND pump one of your creatures to kill theirs with by blocking itSpells like that have been around since 2005 or so.>"why the fuck does it have flash"Because then you can uptap and block. It's called a combat trick.
>>97618020It's a TMNT reference. The turtles would always have the most wacky and disgusting pizza orders, so the pizza cards reflect that
i genuinely wonder how people are still playing MtG if you didn't get on boarded from UB as an NPC.
>>97618020around 2019 if I recallI know people have been claiming that anything they don't like is "the cancer killing magic" ever since like, the fucking stack in 6th edition, but I really feel like the 1-2 punch of universes beyond and FIRE design dealt a blow that the game simply can never recover from
>>97618023>a TMNT referenceWhy the fuck would there be anything related to ninja turtles in MTG? Lmao
>>97618026Because that's what this set is about
Really? Nobody is going to point out that this artist has been around for far longer than AI was worth using and has had a consistent style all the way? It isn't AI for fucks sake.
>>97618024Because it's still the best card game out there. Yeah the art on the cards is kinda cringe nowadays but it still plays the same, so i don't really care
>>97618025FIRE and collector boxes were the beginning of the end for me. UB secret lair was permissible but cringey, but making whole sets was the point where i jumped off the train and haven't missed it.
>>97618015>>97618016Fair, I guess I didn't value untapping as much and I have no context of the cards centering around artifacts. But assuming it didn't untap, a 1 mana +2/+2 "instant" that costs 2 mana to heal later on doesn't seem that good. It just seems like "a fine value card, but not really something an average green deck would play". I guess the untapping would help improve certain combos and from what I've heard green has an insane amount of ramp nowadays.(Again, speaking as someone who doesn't play magic and just randomly stumbles upon posts or videos related to it)>>97618026MTG had crossovers for a long time. I first learned about this when someone randomly posted My Little Pony cards and I accused the person of being autistic for creating OC MLP cards in a different game and writing "this card gives you mana based on the colors of the toy you place next to it". Turned out those were real.
>>97618028Anon, no one in these threads actually plays the game, they're just onlookers or ragebait tourists
>>97618020It was Avengers that mindbroke WotC. Somewhere between seeing the success of the movies in the run up to Endgame and all of WotC's employees being millennial manchildren who liked Avengers themselves, they spent a few years in the run up to Endgame trying to set up their own really shitty Endgame within the Magic universe with a set called War of the Spark. Don't believe me?>Avengers: Endgame release dateApril 26, 2019>War of the Spark release dateMay 3, 2019The literal fucking weekend after. And the worst part? War of the Spark was a runaway success financially. It completely destroyed the last shred of fun the game had left (see: Modern) with broken unfun cards, and showed WotC that they may as well just ape pop culture because millennial losers care more about that than they do the Magic universe.
>>97618031>I've heard green has an insane amount of ramp nowadays.You've been able to make mono-green infinite mana elf decks since 1999.
>>97618033Counterpoint: The War of the Spark trailer has more soul than every MCU movie combinedhttps://youtu.be/b5W9t62t10I?si=5Qq6XWerNFTxDZYV
>>97617967I would be more concerned about the blatant rigging if I was still playing Arena
>>97618031>a 1 mana +2/+2 "instant" that costs 2 mana to heal later on doesn't seem that goodAs an artifact that would still be extremely good in drafts provided there were cards that interacted well with artifacts in the set. You underestimate the strength of having an extra thing lying around on the battlefield.
>>97618008What about the Japanese?
>>97618028yeah this thread sent me on a little research divethe art isn't AI, it's just foul. so don't worry a real person wasted their efforts and was paid for it. great
>>97618021Why does that devil have fat stacked titties.
>>97618035that and the eldraine promo vid were fucking so sick. last cool thing WoTC has done.
Mechanically is mtg still good? I only care about draft
>>97618042No. Every card is word soup. This card used to be a joke because it had too many words. It hasn't held the record for most words on a card in fucking years at this point.
>>97618042Yes, it's fantastic
>>97618042Draft is always a ton of fun, I can't think of a moment in magic where it's been bad because it always bypasses meta fuckery
>>97618045Its funny how you can go on mtga, play constructed with a mid deck, or a meta deck thats just missing a few key cards, do meh, that go to draft and whoop some ass, game after game.Draft is were the skilled players go to just whoop some ass.Not saying you can't get screwed over by lack of bombs, removal or whatever but the skill ceiling is a billion times higher.
>>97618043>his or herMy heart
>>97618046Constructed players are the lowliest of the low, 99% of em copy and paste a deck from a website, and can't logically evaluate cards in a draft setting.
>>97617967Every other card in TMT was accused of AI because of weird cheese textures and weird pizza placements.
>>97617968I can think of great MTG art as recent as 2022 and I probably haven't played it much since years before that
>>97618048Keyforge was the funniest shit. They were prebuilt randomised unique decks with unique card backs and names so you couldn't change cards without your opponent knowing. All the Magic players who are used to winning because they bought the best cards refused to play the game how it was meant to be played because it meant they couldn't win via money. You were meant to play a Bo3, first with your own deck, then with your opponent's deck, then your bid for the better deck via handicap levels. Whoever was better at evaluating decks would have the better chance of winning. But Magic players refused to do it and just wanted regular Bo3s with their deck, at which point they started buying shit tons of decks to try and find a good one.Constructed players truly are an abomination.
>>97618034Amazing lmao. But I assume that has a lot to do with the early overpowered cards which got banned at some point.>>97618037>You underestimate the strength of having an extra thing lying around on the battlefield.I guess so. I've played a ton of card games in past and stat bonuses were often a mid or bad effect even if they're cheap and instant. My biggest time sink was YGO where a card could literally double your stats and it wouldn't be good even 10-20 years ago before the game became infinite combo slop and was closer in tempo to current MTG and HearthStone. Simply because of how accessible and cheap removal is in YGO. For example, there I'd rather play a "guaranteed kill" battle-trick like Sakuretsu Armor or Dimensional Prison instead of a "Your monster gains +1000 ATK and potentially counter-kills the attacker and turns into a beatstick on the board".I was thinking it would be the same in MTG. I just assumed you'd rather play a 1-cost instant that says "Kill the attacking creature" or "Put a 0/-3 onto a creature", and if everyone is playing removal then the stats don't matter as much when blocking so a self-buff wouldn't be as good. That was my thought process.
>>97618052Don't get me wrong the pizza card isn't "good", it's just ridiculous for a common. One mana removal exists, the problem being that it never should've existed because it made creatures unplayable. WotC responded to this by printing more and more value and abilities on creatures which led us in part to the word soup you see on new cards.This card is possibly the most broken thing WotC ever printed because its influence on future card design has been catastrophic. How can you play a creature like Knight of the Reliquary when it can be removed for a single mana having achieved absolutely nothing?
>>97617992I mean final fantasy is fairly close in aesthetic to the actual setting, more so than some recent in universe sets which I fear may have given wizards a false idea of how much people would support the wackier crossovers being in standard (if I remember right there was one other crossover in standard i'm forgetting? but as the first one the impact probably wouldn't show so much)
>>97618054It is quite funny how the best received UB sets so far have been the ones that fit quite nicely in MTG's aesthetic. Final Fantasy, Avatar and LOTR could very well be planes within MTG, whereas Spiderman and TMNT...well.
>>97618004I only fuck rat drawings lovingly crafted by hand thank you very much
>>97618051I remember that event haha. The problem is a lot worse than prize competitors, because atleast they're playing for money, not for fun, my issue is when 95% of the mtg community partakes in constructed game modes were they just want to Google top meta decks and win.I've played nearly 400 games of commander on xmage and everyone just wants to stomp and bring edh decks far beyond the agreed upon power levels.I exclusively play draft now.
I'm not gonna lie, all the Turtles in time references tickle me
>>97618026Because of business relations with Viacom
>>97617972HS still exists?
>>97618042It reliant on the online game engine to know the rules instead of you, that's why it's bloated and obsessed with ref and collabs that artificially creates a speculation market for the otherwise unplayable paper cards
>>97618031Worth noting the MLP crossover was years before any other crossover, just a fun little set of half a dozen cards you could buy you weren't supposed to actually use anywhere from another franchise within the same company, then they started on other little mini products like that but with licenses from outside hasbro, then it was prebuilt commander decks, then it was straight up full crossover sets in standardTurns out the slippery slope is very real.
>>97618060Regrettably. Worst thing to ever happen to card games was HS becoming popular
>>97617967source?haven’t seen any accusations its ai
>>97618020The spiderman one had some street vendor bagel.
>>97618064>source?His ass, see >>97618049
>>97617970>Now pay the 20 dollar card booster pack price and shut up! MTG has to pay their arti-
Why can't just mtgfags admit that art for recent sets is just putrid dogshit?
Videogames? >>>/tg/
>>97618069OP said MTG Arena so we can magically talk about card games here now.
>>97618068Because it isn't
>Alesha, Who Complains About AI
>>97618071
Everything wrong with modern mtg can be traced to the emergence of edh Fuck edh “players” im at the point I don’t event blame hashbro anymore since edh “players” just slurp slop up day after day
>>97618009>Shitty giant growth with untap plus a food tokenCouldn't be very high, even in like 2009
>>97618039I wouldn't be surprised if a wotc Fascist Art Director sketched up some concept with AI, gave it to the artist, and then forced them to adher to it too much so the painter just said fuck it and gave them exactly what they asked for.
>>97618040Because Foglio has always been based.
>>97618005perspective is hard, anon
>>97618012Remind me, can you use instants/flash to untap after opponent declares attackers but before you declare blockers? Adding a creature can really fuck combat for the opponent.
>>97617967Worse, it's not AISo people deliberately made art look extremely shitty
>>97618077fuck I love the foglios, their art has SOUL
>>97618068reddit already admits the art in tmnt is horrible
>>97618074EDH players don’t understand that they’re playing a board game with Magic cards instead of actual Magic. I hate it too. Locals have gone the way of the dinosaur, but everyone has a friend group with their own ban list for the same 4 people every week
>>97618048>Competitive players want to winThat’s kind of how it works. Why would I bother with a pile of incoherent jank in Modern over what is currently best?Same shit in YGO btw. Magic is not unique for having a meta game
you can see how the low IQ /v/edittor contrarians ITT wanna be pro AI just because "the other side" (made up) is anti AI kek
>>97618085cool buzzwords but no one is talking about AI ITT anymore, ragebait tourist-kun
>>97618073>Can immediately have a 5/5 after playing this if you fetch and Thoughtscour yourselfIt’d be cool if this card could bring GDS back to viability, but sadly it’s not
>>97617971heartsones issue is that the directors are all homosexuals and nasty women the shitty artstyle comes from that not from the technique used
>>97617992The art only looks cool on collectors editions cards. The art of the standard cards was just OK.You would be spending loads.
>>97617967>guac>no guac, only sliced avocado on SOME of the pizza
>>97617968Apologize to him this instant!
>>97618049>she thinks Ai can't do any of this
>all x has always been le dogshitHello, Reddit!
>>97617968Big bait
AI is just a tool.Why can't artists just use it to trace things they like/use it as an inspiration?
>>97617970Artists > billionaires and jeetsOnly brownoids would disagree
>>97618095Same reason you don't trace real life, it gives subpar results compared to just being skilled
>>97618095because normies don't know or understand how art actually works and all the permanently online groups scream and shout and piss and shit themselves going on about how it's all stolen low effort slop and that it's impossible to actually have any sort of creative control over.
>>97618056Hot. Got more?
>>97618083constructed has gone to shit due to cards being designed to cater to edh "players" and will probably never recoverlimited is mostly still fun, no clue about local attendance i only play arena
>>97618048pretty much hit the nail on the headplayed cube with a bunch of edh only friends and they were bitching the whole time about not knowing how to draft even after some pointers and a few rounds of drafting, and here i though edh "players" were supposed to be good at making decks but i guess its all just netdecking
>>97617987must be nice, never touching an ascension at all
>>97617998Surely a mixture of modern memes and 80s nostalgia is the winning play?
>>97618103i dont care about the comic shit but the cards referencing turtles in time are pretty cooli am goycattle, yes
make april white again
>>97618104>i dont care about the comic shit but the cards referencing turtles in time are pretty coolHardly a surprise. They are very aware that most people are like you who only superficially care about 30+ years old material. Hence the overabundance of of the OG cartoon and NES games references.
>>97618106Yeah honestly its pretty smart of them, I feel like they learned their lesson after they stuffed the Spiderman set with literal whos nobody cares about and it flopped. They should've had cards referencing Spiderman 2 for the PS2
>>97618105The fuck is 2023's la luz extinguido?
>>97618107>They should've had cards referencing Spiderman 2 for the PS2Even older, in fact. They should have focused on the 90's animated cartoon, which is what every millennial knows and cares about.
>>97618109They had room for Spider Brazil or whatever the fuck but they couldn't spare a single card for Big Wheel, shaking my damn head
>>97618108the spiderverse style movieanother uglification of popular thing to add to the culture war
Gwent art was so good, shame they went under.Loved the animated premium versions
>>97618111There is ugly and there is whatever that is. It's not easy at all to make a real ugly cartoon character, they really outdone themselves.
>>97618110Spider India and UK, no Spider Brazil.
>>97617967Dont they do like 7 weeks every "gen"?No shit they are using ai
There's more kino games out there. But for Sorcery and others you have to play in person with fat people. I don't think trannies have discovered it though so that's a plus.
>>97618116Forgot pic, the art is traditional not sloppa.
My favorite MTG art is this piece of cheese. What's yours?
>>97617992The FF set looks great and is fun to play. The Avatar set has very cool mechanics gameplay-wise, but half the cards don't fit the game's aesthetic.Then tere's the Ninja Turtles and Spiderman sets which are both garbage.
>>97618020>When did it become this normieslop full of jokes and modern references that doesnt even pretend to be a serious fantasy setting?2019 with the release of the first MLP set. Which by the way was fun.
>>97617970>we have to be for this shit that's ruining society because artists on twitter are against it!!!Retard.
UB ruined this game I only started playing a month agoI'm going to buy 1 of every sealed pack and probably 3 of star trek
>>97618118I love these goobers.
>>97617967I love how Lorcana has been getting away with using AI art from the get go but nobody seems to call them out because the same people that are mad about this sort of thing are disney trannies.
>>97618118Make him legal you cowards.And no, Barren Glory (oops) is strictly worse.
>>97617967What's your favourite card, whether due to it's art, effect or any other reason. Personally I've always been partial to Unfulfilled Desires: love the art and the "made up" end to a poem, and the effect is cool too, even if not that strong.Funny how Squandered Resources is so similar looking, even though apparently they were done by different artists.
>>97618126I love altwin conditions in general, of which Approach of the 2nd Sun is my overall favorite.
>>97618077Love Phoglios as well: always funny, sometimes cool, often sexy. Other artists used to draw some great boobies as well.
>>97618021would
>>97617967The TMNT set is the most spiritually ugly set ever released for a TCG
>>97618020The Avengers movies basically nuked millennial entertainment into dust. Everything post-Avengers had to be ironic, referential, silly, and in no way serious.
>>97618050yeah except the good artists like seb mckinnon get fired because they do not conform to [insert current politically virtual signal] on twitter.
>>97618068I readily admit that 98% of it is standardized and sanitized crap with a color filter over it (alb blue cards have tonha a blue hue over the artwork etc.) >>97618050One of my favorite more recent cards.
>>97618103>April is blackThey just couldn't help themselves, huh?
>>97618054>>97618055The thing with MTG is that it's one of the worst IPs to force crossover slop on because it's already set up so you can do whatever you want in-setting and it would make sense. FFS, we have a Japanese mythology set, you can make a wild west set work if you wanted to.
>>97618134REDHEAD DETECTEDCOMMENCE BLACKWASHING
>>97617967That sucks.Is Wizard blacklisting the artists that are found to be using AIslop art? I know this isn't the first time this happened.One of the few good things about modern MTG is that it's still a good place to find interesting fantasy artists that are working hard and grinding it out. If they lose that to the AIslop menace, that's another thing this game loses.
>>97618135I'd argue its perfect for crossovers because its just a big disjointed multiverse with no real coherent aesthetic. I could totally believe that the world of Avatar or Forgotten Realms exists amongst its planes, not to mention that making cards of existing characters from other IPs has been a widespread passtime for decades
>>97618055>whereas Spiderman and TMNT...well.Devil's advocate (and I really don't want to be), but those are two sets that were almost certainly licensing requirements to get crossover properties they really wanted. Fortnite went through the same failed TMNT push to get Avatar shit, and Star Trek coming later this year is almost certainly in the same 'Paramount desperation' boat now.
>>97618139Oh I'm sure there's a lot of sets that only exist so they can get to the set they actually wanted to feature
>>97617979>Feels like they have completely shit the bed with MTG, theyve made so many goofy sets in rapid succession that it makes me wonder if theyre trying to tank the IP and do a runner when they say "were not making any more" which would automatically make every card more valuable. The game itself has no consistency and is fucked now.lol they're actually getting sued for exactly this
>>97618068There's still plenty of good art, albeit, from old and new names alike. Especially since in the past half decade or so there's been less of a directive from above to try to make every art look "consistent" (Read: Boring)But we are slowly losing ground to both crossover slop and AIslop. Not good.
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>>97618131>Everything post-Avengers had to be ironic, referential, silly, and in no way serious."insincere" is a much more precise term for this
>>97618146They should've mirrored the art to fit the frame colors, although this was probably done on purpose.
>>97618132Also Terese Nielsen
>>97618132Remember when the disgusting trans creature autumn "rat mouth" burchett did this
>>97618132>artists like seb mckinnon get firedimmediately we saw the art quality drop off into random digital slop afterward tooi'm still madmtg used to be fucking good. really, really fucking goodwe don't hate hasbro enough
>>97617967again?
>>97618150>What, some marker on basic lands?>Look at the setChrist, they are their own worst enemies.
>>97618055>MTG boomers cry about missing Blocks>Wizzards graciously gives us NYC block>magiboomers piss and shit themselvesi don't get it, why do they not get this is why they aren't appealed to anymore?
>>97617967Playing MTG in the current year is one humiliation ritual after another. Idk why people do it.
>>97618020when wizards focus moved from designing for competitive 60 card formats to 100 card singleton formats. If you play and consume commander products you are part of the problem
>>97618154>NYC blockgod i hate this is technically true
>>97618147True, I'm ESL so I have a limited vocabulary. The attitude is the same as a 12 year old preteen feeling embarassed about his music/fashion tastes and acting ironic about them to not get bullied.
>>97618042Avatar, love or hate the aesthetics, was great to draft. Granted, I drafted with a whole bunch of friends.>Start at midday>Got like 10 of us>Had to buy extra boosters so we could actually draft>One guy could use his office space>Ordered a bunch of junkfood and slammed back a few brewskis >Leave late in the nightLooking forward to our Lorwyn draft.
>>97618159Lorwyn draft is a ton of fun, I managed to end second with a jank-ass kithkin deck
>>97617967This TMNT thing is legit the worst set in Magic history, bar none. It's a genuinely offensive product. Honestly I think I'd be more upset that a human being sat down and painted that fucking hideous thing and then expected to be paid for it.
Damn only 4 in the lorwyn tourney
>>97618162I havent played magic for a long ass time but that card seems like it single handedly makes goblins viable if they werent already
>>97618162Nobody plays counterspells anymore outside of the free ones in Legacy.Card's a fucking trap and EDH shitters fell for it.
>>97618145The elves in Lorwyn are very cool. I like how evil and racist they are.
>>97618164Why don't people play counterspells anymore
>>97618166They do, the Quench one and the one thta counters 2 costs are staples nowadays, no idea what anon is on about
>>97618155They're deep in the drone sauce or are champions of their bad behaviour.
>>97618166 There just arent many good counters, but people always runs the ones there are.
>>97618068the Extended poo universes dont count do they
Tablets and digital art in general was a mistake
>>97618166>lots of 1 or 2 mana creatures>very few 1 mana counterspells to answer them>on the draw the counterspells are weaken due to being one mana behind>lots of 1 mana removal>playing a creature and holding removal or playing the removal the turn after is more efficient.
>>97617968thisMTG has the worst art of all the current TCGsEven the one piece (fucking one piece) looks better
>>97618172>lots of 1 mana removalYeah and he makes you take damage to remove it
I am on a mission to free my fellows from the shittiness of commander.>love designing decks>Hate commander because its so restrictive>make so many fun multiplayer decks that everyone can play their own style and have a blastSurely if I tell the play group they could choose between 40 different decks there would be fun.
>>97618175I've seen a lot of people get into the rest of magic after getting in through commander, so it can definately happen
>>97618071>when this creature entersEnters what? The graveyard? My hand? Muh dick?The games abandonment of text that innately makes sense was the last straw.
>>97617971The original blizzard tcg card art is so fucking kino
>>97618177Literally everyone understand what this means, even 13 yo kids that I taught the game to last week. Keep up
>>97618150QRD?
>>97618177Not to mention "you may cast this on a later turn". So if I can cast creatures like instants I still have to wait for my turn to cast this one?
>>97617992>>for some reasons there is still a desire in my soul to collect the Final Fantasy set (in Japanese) just because the art actually looks cool.That's because they actually got Yoshi to do shit for it. Same with that Lilliana promo-art for an earlier set.FF is the first one since Dominara that felt like Wizards put some effort into the fucking thing.
>>97618181No. It's a creature, is it not? Then you can both cast it for its warp cost and out of exile as an instant if you have another card that gives it flash
>>97618183But it's says you may cast it from exile at a later turn, not you may cast it from exile or you may cast it from exile as though it were in your hand.
>>97617977I really appreciate you posting these fat anime titties.
>>97618161I agree but I don't find it offensive that an artist got paid for that work. Artists are mercenaries, they work for pay. The offensive thing is the fact an art director wanted it and someone above the art director wanted it. Leadership ultimately has the final say and TMNT is what they wanted. None of this awful shit would have happened if leadership had not decided to pay to license TMNT.
>>97618184Does the flash effect specify it has to be from your hand? If that's the case, then the question answers itself
>>97617967NOOOOOOOOOOOO ANOTHER TROON LOST HIS JOB THAT HE NEVER HAD
>>97618096They're all worthless garbage, feel free to disagree and prove yourself a cow piss drinking street shitter.
>>97618172Also>Cavern of Souls is standard legal.
>>97618187Not in the case of a vedalken orrery
>>97618121Making your video card more expensive isn't "ruining society" you fragile little faggot.
>meanwhile: yugioh, today
>>97618150Evil cannot create, only corrupt and destroy.
>>97618189>brown spacinglmao
>>97618231>redditor trying to throw xer spacing on brownsLOL!
>>97617992>my trash sets are good actually>>97618180Fags simp for Therese Nielsen and seethe that someone wrote over her shitty art.
>>97618237>brownie fixes it after being called outThanks for respecting people's pronouns.
It's sad how much better Yugioh is than every other card game.
>>97618180They are cards from the "guru" set, pretty rare and they go for about 50+ bucks/euros
>>97618121How is it ruining society anon? Zoomers are lost they will really rally behind whatever cause you tell them to
>>97618177No one ever said ETBs they said enters. Pretending to have brain damage so your complains *almost* make sense is an awful look anon.
>>97618180Britoid tranny wrote that on his cards and whatever tournament he was playing at didn't allow it, big drama issued until wotc not only capitulated but doubled down on itTheir reasoning was that the cards weren't forbidden because of the slogans wiritten but because the author of said cards doesn't like trannies and has been blacklisted
>>97618286>50+ bucks/eurosthe island is like $1000, forest is 500+
>>97618014>A card literally depicting someone making AI art, no tools, no artistry, only idea prompt and output.Topical
>>97617967Not for the first time, either.Hasbro can make millions off of MtG, but paying an artist 200 bucks to make something real is a completely impossible financial burden.This is what happens when you give in to total greed.Only imbeciles and cucks still monetarily support this corporation.
>>97618502Huh, dutch magic site here sells them for €50 and they are reputable nedermagic.nl/magic-cards.asp?s=612.
>>97618105Did they turn 2023 April into a grocery store auntie?
>>97618154do bagels go good with coffee?
>>97618653anon they have zero stock and probably never will have stock.€50 is probably either a random placeholder or just a "if you're really that desperate we'll base our buy price off of that" sort of listing.https://scryfall.com/card/pgru/2/island
>>97617970This all artists but especially performers need to be treated as bad actors until proven otherwise
>>97618105This is something I can partially excuse, because in the original original Mirage comics she was lightskin mixed, presumably Black and Irish, based on Eastman's real life girlfriend even down to her name. So for once it's not a Jimmy Olsen/Mary Jane Watson/Wally West/Electro/Josie McCoy/Heimdall/etc situation, the pasty redhead *was* the Hollywood change, not the typical other way around, they were just reverting it. Probably happened because the writer Laird was the main one consulted for the show and he didn't know Easton's intent since it was drawn and published in BW. Hell, they even did it to Baxter Stockman, he just got reverted a lot sooner.BUT they are also clearly going overboard the other direction for virtue signalling reasons. Especially because she's always been a bombshell (for her age in the aged down versions like 2012, something the 14 year old watching could still get a cartoon crush on).2018 is tentatively acceptable but probably about 15%-20% too far. Hair still reddish at least, skin still slightly on the lighter side maybe she's just a little tanned, I think that series did mostly takes place in a single summer, still has some hips even when she's aged down more curves than 2012 even. Like yes, her voice actor looks closer to comics April than the character, but it's mostly the grandma chic hipster fashion sense that's doing her the disservice. Like, is that even a realistic way for a Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan highschool girl to be dressed? Just looks like some suburban white girl's Tumblr OC. Probably is.And 2023 is just completely unrecognizable. That's just a second Mindy Kaling Velma.
>>97617967I remember when the pizza land cards got revealed and everyone went>That's AI art.And for weeks the guy who supposedly painted them, in a completely different style than all his other cards, didn't show a single fucking thing. And then he finally comes out and goes>so sorry it took me so long to find the files and sketches I did to prove I didn't use AI. It's so hard to find the files for my professional artwork that I am paid to make for this commercial productAnd every sketch was blatantly just a rough scribble that he did over the AI gen with no variation, as if he just immediately landed on the exact format and layout of each card in one go. Including one photo of him badly trying to replicate holding an object like a pizza slice in the extremely unnatural and confusing way the AI art did, as if he used that for reference... but only for that one card. Didn't need to photograph his hands for reference on any of the other incoherent slop pizza cards, or ever before on anything else he's ever drawn.
>>97618938>because in the original original Mirage comics she was lightskin mixed, presumably Black and IrishNo she wasn't. That's never been true.
>>97618121The artists on twitter already ruined society.
>>97617967Why are people treating this textless OP that somehow confuses MTG with Magic Arena like it's a real news headline and not just another schizo with AI psychosis?
>>97618279pity (you) for the worst opinion in the thread
>>97618774I don't know about 'good,' but its a way to cut the bitterness
>>97618021theres a lot of cool looking cards still
>>97619544I don't like this clear piece of draft chaff, but yeah, the art's nice
>>97617972I don't hate it, but it is kind of generic.
>>97617967Who the fuck cares? Fuck "artists" wanting free money for a shit hobby. AI does better than any human so why not pai AI instead of the human? Integrate AI into your workflow if you want to ge paid but otherwise just do it as a hobby like every other normal being and get real job
>>97620541Good morning sir
>>97617970I'm not going to try to convince you about the merits of art as a human creation, that's way too subjective and contentious to make much headway on, but it should at least be clear why people aren't thrilled about these kinds cost-cutting measures being implemented in a product that is then being sold for the same price as always.
>>97620889Good morning, what of it?
>>97620927Why you are not selling your product then if you have such great ideas? Whoever has ideas now can make product with democratized technology. If you have no idea, no support, you are no one, can't distribute, can't market, who are you? Why you deserve product?
>>97618574Also don't forget they've cut off several of their best artists over politicspolitics that 90% of people agree with and 99% of their audience agree with
>>97618026Just what I was about to say.>>97618027Look, I haven't played MtG since 2014. But I just want to let you know, this crossover garbage is the true death knell as far as I'm concerned.There is nothing redeeming about this hobby anymore. It's gone from being a legitimate game to just being some bizarre vehicle for dogshit corporate crossovers.I'm not fucking around when I say this shit disgusts me. The LotR shit disgusts me. The Spiderman shit disgusts me.It's all just blatant cash-grab nonsense. This product has decayed. The only other franchise I find comparable to this shit is Fortnite. It's a travesty, and supporting it with your money is ludicrous.I've said it before in other threads; we should make our own set. Why not? If it's free, who cares? We can make our own goddamn cards, I think an insular community effort is the only way to reclaim any semblance of self-respect here. I'll come back to the hobby just for that reason, if only we can get enough people interested.We can get the will to actually make something like in the old days and disengage ourselves from all of this decay and decline, bring back a little creativity. How many cards do we need for a set? 200? Even if no artists bother to aid in the project, we could soullessly use AI to generate some card art we can make 200 cards. And, damn, not like we could be blamed for using AI art when even the REAL cards use that SHIT anyway.Just saying.Think about it.
>>97621155That doesn't even follow. What are you trying to say? Did you mean to reply to another post entirely? Did you have a canned response ready and just posted it the moment you got a new reply?
>>97618053I am not a big card game player , but I never got why they didn't try to balance around this , by just adding anti removal cards. or just making protection style effects more comon , just add some kind of restriction so that normal and fair removal effects still work.this seems to be a problem , all card games seem to follow for some reason.
>>97618092don't insult my clanker you dumb ass nigga , you need to try to get quality so bad.AI would never think of being so bad you dumb ass nigga.
