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Macrisian OSR/ACKS is now better than Gygaxian D&D
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Please take your meds.
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>>97619383
Acks has bad rules and the worst community. Thank god there's only like fifty of them left but even that's too much.
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>>97619383
I mean, I don't think Macris would disparage Gygax. He's building on the foundation Gygax laid. I do agree that ACKS is probably the most realized vision of what Gygax set out to achieve in AD&D, specifically (yes, I'm aware that ACKS is basically a B/X hack).
It's not without flaws, for me personally. It's a little clunky and lost within its own rules. I also think it simultaneously aims for high fantasy in scope but seems to value verisimilitude (these can contradict one another depending on context).
Still, it's a monumental achievement and inspiration to a lot of game designers. The people who disparage it have nothing to their name, no comparable work, and no credentials to justify their criticism.
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>>97619770
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up, ACKShill.
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Even though I’m not running or playing ACKS, I find these books immensely useful. In addition, reading it is inspiring – you can see the passion of the author and his competence. I cannot even imagine how difficult of a task writing these books was, but I am sure that the author feels satisfied. The art is great too. Anyway, tirades aside, I can’t see how anyone could rate this book as anything lower than 10/10.
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>>97619801
No, he's right. Let the man cook.
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>>97620020
>I can’t see how anyone could rate this book as anything lower than 10/10.
The first step is to cut your dick off, apparently. Trannies hate this game for some reason.
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>>97619801
Now I understand why it got banned from so many websites because of its shills.

They're not even anywhere close to reality so it's too obvious.
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>>97619383
>Today I will create le based game
>I shall call it
>*ACKS*
>Sharts and dies
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>>97619383
You might be right, and I mean that quite literally. One of those turds may indeed have a nicer shade than the other. I simply don't care to study them long enough to form an opinion.
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>>97619383
Play what you want. It has no impact on my table. There is no objectively "better" in ttrpgs, whose sole goal is that the table enjoy it.
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>>97620245
>>97620263
>>>/pol/
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>>97620245
He's not even really MAGA, all he did was refuse to fire someone from The Escapist when Zak (seemingly baselessly) called that person a transphobe.
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>>97620797
>He's not really MAGA

Cope troon.
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TRADITIONAL GAMES???
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>>97619383
DnD is and has always been trash, and so are all DnD derivatives.
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He is a Nazi lover and a MAGA cultist. He and his game can fuck right off.
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>>97619770
It definitely scratches a very specific itch. The same kind of feeling as super high detail games like Dwarf Fortress.
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>>97619391
>>97619448
lol seething
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>>97621217
>it was real in my mind
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>>97619383
What setting?
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>>97619383
Stay in your containment thread, OSR fag
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>>97621217
I never really got why people can't separate this guy from politics, or how this accusation even makes sense. He has videos of him playing his own game with at least two Black friends of his. He's clearly not a Nazi racist like people claim him to be.

I understand websites banning Varg, who is ttrpg designer who is an open Nazi, but for Macris it just doesn't make sense to me why ACKS is banned from discussion on both the OSR games Reddit as well as the rpgnet forums. Even if there was shilling when the game came out you'd think it wouldn't matter now that literal years have passed. It's not like they ban New Vegas discussion from video game places because their own Rome RPers are annoying.
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>>97619383
>>97623703
All I know about him is that he went online crying saying "No one is buying my shit I'm quitting FOREVER!" and after throwing a hissy fit he went "lol no, I'm back guys"
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>>97623703
Shilling is an unforgivable sin, especially the way you guys do it.
You're lowering the basic faith in humanity. And, if you feel bad about not being trusted and being treated like a shill, the people you have to blame are the shameless shills who make any defense or praise of that system sus as fuck.
It also wasn't that long ago, and worse, the shills that got banned from other websites didn't just die, they just moved to different websites.
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>>97623703
The criticism of ACKS has little to do with politics. That's usually just a screen to hide behind. to say "he jus don't like it cuz he ain't racist like me!"

It's just a yet-another completely unoriginal B/X clone. The only thing you can even talk about is how it took a slimmed-down, efficient system, and turned it into a bloated mess.
If anything, politics is the primary motivation of the guys trying to sell it.

That generally aligns with the ACKS community. The shilling, the trolling, the lies, it's hard to look at all that and then see the game and not think "what the fuck is wrong with these guys."

>this guy literally just tried a "He can't be racist, he has a black friend!"
... wait a sec. Alex? Is that you?
Jesus christ, how the fuck have you not heard how that just makes you sound ten times more racist.
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>>97623750
>>97623853
Imagine seething this hard about a roleplaying game lmao
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>>97623853
his politics is a smokescreen that ACKSfags use to dismiss why talking about his game was banned in so many big RPG forums
the real reason is that his Discord was caught red handed carrying out coordinated raids to steer the conversation about it and to dogpile anyone disagreed
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>>97623715
proof?
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>>97619383
I'm just going to link this thread whenever somebody says "the left haven't taken over gaming, you can just make your own".
Yeah and it literally can't be spoken of online because of (presumably) discord trannies with google alerts.
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>>97623750
Fuck man, I just asked a question. I haven't played the game, I just looked at it and I wanted to know more about it, but every talk on it devolves into this political shit-flinging. So maybe you could elaborate on why the system is "sus as fuck".

>>97623853
This one too, I don't even understand what he's saying for the political part, that ACKS fans choose to identify as racists? Tell me more about how the game is bloated, tell me what's wrong with it. There's a professor at my university that wrote a B/X clone, but as far as I'm concerned it's a good thing there's a million of them.

I don't think this game had professional shills, which is to say people paid to advertise the game, let alone that those people have the undying loyalty of Japanese soldiers still holding out. Judging from >>97623966 I just think this game had an annoying community on launch, but I hardly think that should be an eternal crime.
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>>97624015
>Letting another group to live rent-free in your head
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>>97623703
The RPG ney one is because he threatened legal action every time his connection to neo Nazis came up. He started threatening to sue staff for not stopping those threads. So that is on him.

He has to many well established links to neo Nazis. And he threatened anyone who shows that. I am not gonna touch on his game design as it's irrelevant. There are too many game out there not linked to neo Nazis to waste time on this one
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>>97624248
>he accused them of slander
>proceeds to slander without proof
Brave anon, but I'll take his word over yours.
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>>97624248
You can't just completely ignore the game design though, because it's comically bad.

Just about every page has several rules that's two or three (or ten) rolls too many or refers to a table in a completely different section of the book (or a table you have to spend an hour making yourself) and all just to produce a negligible modifier for some over-complicated equation. It's a game where most of the play is tied up in fictional office work, and while that might be almost okay if it was at least well constructed, it's just very basic bitch ideas but stretched out and padded up in hopes of obfuscating that.

It's a game for no one (at least, no one on a purely gaming spectrum). People who don't like too many rules and procedures will hate it, and people who like lots of rules would hate it even more because of just how poorly the rules are designed.
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>>97624015
I mean, you can literally make your own, that just doesn't mean people are going to buy it.
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>>97624346
No. He started going after people, not the site. Classic scare tactic. He said he would sue the mods personally. Not the organization. His connection are public record but it costs money to defend yourself in court. Mods sent paid by the site. They are volunteers.

He is a bully.
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>>97624369
I also find it a over complicated B/X clone. There are scores of B/X clones. But for me the design is not the issue.

The man has ties to Nazis, he is a bully, he uses scare tactics and legal threats to shut down negative comments and organizes brigading campaigns to attack forms that have negative feedback on the game design or his Nazi connections.

So to me and many others the game design is irrelevant. His actions draw a very set type to his banner and most folks don't want to be associated with neo Nazis, racists and all about assholes.

I cut Wotc off from my gaming purchases for less.
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ACKS has many good ideas one should take for your own OSR. I appreciate a few ideas like how 2H weapons are handled vs OSE (but the ACKS weapon damage table is retarded for reasons I will not elaborate on now).
Or the commerce part (albeit is an elaborated BECMI).
Race as class should be like ACKS - more than one type of elf or dwarf but all different from humans) - albeit I don't love specific implementations.

The overall ethos has the heart in the right place. Use it as an additonal tool to fine tune your own OSR game.

Macris however as a person is ABHORRENT. And the shills obnoxious.
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>>97624472
I subscribe to La mort de l'auteur. I judge games as much as I can without consideration of their designers.

And ACKS is trash. Trash that wants desperately to seem deep and complex but is written like a high schooler writing an essay that has to hit 500 words but he only has twenty to say. The only good thing that could be said about it is that B/X is not a bad game, but every alteration and addition that ACKS introduces to it however makes the game worse.

If you don't like it because there's dozens of better alternatives and the game is basically a giant middle-finger to game design in general, I can support that.

If you don't like it because Macris is a shitbag and the ACKS community is a tiny group of awful people, I can understand that.

But if the guy thinks he's a nazi or hangs out with people who think they're nazis, a German political party from the 1940s, and you want to hold that against him, you're kind of being a dick and a hypocrite to boot. The Left is supposed to be all about mental illness sympathy or whatever.
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>>97624562
>Race as class should be like ACKS
ACKS does that in the dumbest, greediest possible way.
Instead of simply splitting race from class, it instead sells race+class as separate classes in splatbooks.
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>>97623853
>It's just a yet-another completely unoriginal B/X clone. The only thing you can even talk about is how it took a slimmed-down, efficient system, and turned it into a bloated mess.
In a way, this is how to be a trve gygaxian successor because it's exactly what wotc did to his game kek
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>>97624248
>you should just believe the RPGnet trannymods' version of the story uncritically
Where, exactly, do you think we are?
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>>97624683
>>if the guy thinks he's a nazi or hangs out with people who think they're nazis, a German political party from the 1940s, and you want to hold that against him, you're kind of being a dick and a hypocrite to boot.

He has ties to Neo Nazis. The Nazi ideology did not die out when Hitler shot himself sadly. It's you being dishonest claiming it did.

No on tolerates Nazis, if you drink with Nazis you support Nazis. Fuck him.
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>>97624860
A page defending a game designed by a trash human who has links to Neo Nazis. Son, RPG net didn't hide his actions. I get you may hate the place as they Banned a Nazi Linked Game designer. You can go suck his Hitler loving dick.
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>>97624937
It must make leftists seethe so hard knowing that the greatest OSR Gygaxian retroclone and the spiritual heir to Gygax himself and roleplaying's legacy is a right wing Christian kek. Seethe tranny
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>>97624937
>>97624955
Holy fucking tranny seethe. ACKS must be based as fuck if it's made the tranny THIS mad
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>>97624958
Dude ACKs is not the beast ORS game by a long shot.Its a bit of an over complicated mess. It's one of like 50 B/X clones and no where as good as most of the top ones.

Ride that Hitler Dildo you Nazi supporting Shrill.
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>>97624955
>>97624937
This is proof to all normal human beings that all criticism of ACKS is purely politically motivated. The left hates that Alexander Macris managed to spearhead the entire OSR movement without kowtowing to DEI and transgenderism
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>>97624970
Sadly no. Macris just gets shit on because he was closely associated with Milo at one point iirc and worked for him. The game itself still sucks ass and has all the hallmarks of being designed by a bug chaser.
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>>97624977
The entire true OSR community disagrees with you. ACKS is commonly considered the peak of Gygaxian roleplay design, the only "people" who disagree are the troglodytes in r/OSR, and they hate it purely for political reasons.
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Note: The ACKS shill is known for false flagging. He absolutely loathes actually discussing the game and will do everything he can to try and prevent people from posting its rules.
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>>97624830
>>a way, this is how to be a trve gygaxian successor because it's exactly what wotc did to his game kek

To be fair, He was long gone from TSR by that point. 3e builds on Ideas from skills and powers. It was not a huge leap at the time. It's a fucking mess, but wasn't a huge leap from where Ad&D was going
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>>97624987
Actually, no, you'd be wrong. ACKS is widely considered the most Gygaxian B/X retroclone of all time
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>>97624992
True, and y'know what's funny is every so often you see people reinvent the square wheel like that with 5e by making it massively more complicated. None of those attempts ever really get off the ground for the reason that overcomplicating D&D has always been a massive mistake (Unless you want to appeal to a small niche of 2hu-tier autists). I guess that's the same reason why ACKS is basically dead.
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Note: there is no ACKSshill, the entire notion of an "ACKSshill" is copiun made up by r/OSR tourists and /2eg/ trannies to make it seem like /tg/'s love for ACKS isn't organic
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>>97624989
Ah the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. ACK has been banded from pretty much all major RPG sites. It's converts hand around in Thier sad echo chambers acting like it's this massive loved game when it is simply not.

It wasn't only the Nazi Connections that got in banded. It's Shrills brigaded anyone and everyone pointing out the many, many issues with it's game design.

Notice how those issues being pointed out here are being ignored.
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>>97625012
You've pointed to no issues at all, just more whining about Nazi connections. Funny how you constantly insist there are issues yet can only bring up seething over Macris' politics
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>>97625001
There has been some thinking things going on with taking some of the ideas of 5e and simplifying them. I haven't got to play it but shadow dark looks solid from a read though. I also kinda like what I see with Low Fantasy/ Tales of argosa.

I am honestly less interested in clones then in taking the OSR design in interesting new directions
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>>97625012
You're preaching to the choir m8. The entire board has been exposed to the same style of shilling and has stopped caring about the game. /5eg/ and /3.5g/ went through a week where the shill would try to advertise it to people. I guess the embarrassment got to him because he stopped pretty quick.
Even this thread probably has just three people in it: You, me, and the shill. It just looks more active than it is because he never stops trying to samefag and shill.
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>>97625037
>I am honestly less interested in clones then in taking the OSR design in interesting new directions

You should be looking into ACKS than
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>>97625029
Others have brought them up, I have posted about them twice. We all have the same user name son.

My point is it's one of at lest 50 B/X clones. I find it's maker and his fanbois to be human trash. Nothing but a seething pile of mindless hatemongers in a vile shit filled echo chamber thinking an over complicated meds of a game is the second coming.
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>>97625041
Why, it doesn't do much of anything that new or interesting. And what ideas might be interesting could be done better, such as multi race classes. Just split race and class! That was done like 40 years ago!
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>>97625050
Funny how your criticisms of the game are vague yet the one thing you keep circling back to is politics. Almost as if you don't know shit about the system and your only reason for disliking it is hysterical, anti-Trunp, tranny nonsense
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>>97625039
That is the vibe I am getting. This dude is a hard dick rider for a so,so game with a Nazi connected creator.

I looked into ACKs years ago. Even got a PDF because it looked kinda interesting. This was before the Nazi issue and the brigading. It wasn't all that interesting when I got into the mechanics. I hated how in place of just separating race and class they did a few race classes. That is annoying as fuck desu.Decent art though from what I recall.
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>>97625064
Hey Nazi dick rider, I was pure up that his Nazi connections and his dick riding cuntboys were an instant "no play" for me.

And that is okay. You seem to hate any game that does not welcome racists and bigots and seem to have an obsession with trans folks. I bet your search history is full of chicks with dicks DESU.

You stick with your Nazi linked game. No one else wants you.
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>>97625116
>reddit spacing
>DESU
Also are you ever going to get around to posting proof to your claims?
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>>97625085
>Decent art though from what I recall.
The art is great too.
kek
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>>97621161
Said by a faggot too stupid to play any tabletop game.
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>>97620805
I want to show this picture to the Amish and anyone else who thinks that a photograph takes people's souls. There's not a single soul in it.
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>>97625002
Yes, we can tell your love of cocks is organic.
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>>97624830
TSR did that to Gary's game long before WotC came into the picture.
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How it this thread full of tranny redditors? I mean, how did they find it basically as soon as it was posted? Do they have some obsessive autist just scanning /tg/ at all times or what?
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>>97625914
>why doesn't /tg/ want to suck off this obvious advertisement?
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>>97619383
post a link to the books
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>>97626153
I'd highly advise paying for ACKS, few games deserve your money as much as this one.
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>>97626161
If I like them I will but not without reading them first.
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>>97626161
>um actually you should pay for this product.

how bout you share the shit and we but it if we like it?
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>>97625914
>>97626161
Alright, now it's too obvious that you're just trolling.
Even the dumbest shills are nowhere near as transparent and annoying as you are.
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>>97626164
>>97626190
The books are complete shit so it's really only possible for him to sell them before people look inside.
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>>97626161
While I did buy all the ACKS books after, I also pirated them first so that I could judge them before splurging my hard earned money!
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People have been mentioning genuine criticisms to ACKS in this thread. Now like a normal person I will weigh those cons, with the good parts of the game to consider whether or not I will pick it as a game to run for my group. Are there any other B/X style games that really emphasises the scale ACKS is trying to go for? The Adventurer that eventually buys/gets a business or demense plus the war stuff? I'm honestly not even sure I'll get to the war stuff, but I think my players will get more invested into the world if they're literally invested in a business in that world.
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>>97626190
It's in the Sharethread.
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>>97624937
I'm still not believing a guy playing tabletop games with multiple Black dudes is a White-supremacist Neo-Nazi unless there's actual proof. Like screenshots of him at a rally or a line in ACKS that's as racist as the Warhammer pygmy art.
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>>97626787
No, the domain and trading rules of ACKS are deeper than in any other clone, which is the game's main selling point. Entirely seriously and beyond tranny malding, it can get a bit spreadsheety and that not to everyone's taste, but much of it is prep that doesn't cause much slowdown at the table (arguably a lot less than just making shit up on the fly as necessary).
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>love dungeon synth
>love old school fantasy
>love complex domain play
>autistically obsessed with hexcrawls
>love history
>love idea of cellular automata system simulating history in a hexcrawl
>love the idea of turning my D&D game into a 4x game past a certain point
>get really excited at the idea that the world in D&D just goes on forever
>like an infinite generating minecraft world
>you could just keep travelling and there'd always be another kingdom further on to explore and conquer
>decide to play ACKS
>roll up a small town
>make three large dungeons within 3 miles of the town (unrealistic but it's for west marches style for when not everyone in my group can show up)
>keep worrying they'll drop the game when they find out the author is a chud
>they never do
>however they find all the supplements
>they all pick a freakshit class
>campaign begins
>they basically have skills where they can roll 5+ on a die and already have some stupid "ability" they can use
>all sense of realism goes out the window
>realize that ACKS is a god-tier concept as a game and utterly shit in execution due to trying to make it like 3e.
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>>97627003
That seems to be the thing about ACKS' rules, is that you may never need a rule for "establishing a senatorial republic" but you have it in case a player tries to do it. I don't really mind that though. I like the idea of rewarding my players with "physical" things that aren't just slightly stronger weapons or armour to try to get them connected to the world.

Then again, I bought the Harn books, so I'm an exceptional autist.
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>>97627212
>>they basically have skills where they can roll 5+ on a die and already have some stupid "ability" they can use
>>all sense of realism goes out the window
Example?
I know ACKS has builds unfortunately, it has sort of feats you can select if you belong to a certain group of classes. It's not really 3e-style but kinda less OSR and surely not MUH GYGAXIAN
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>>97625085
Most of the art is AI generated for it since the last release.
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>>97626787
You can use BECMI up to Companion and GAZ9: The Minrothad Guilds without paying Macris a single dollah.
Because I reiterate - we share like 70% of game design ethos or more, but he is a steaming piece of shit.
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>>97627230
>you may never need a rule for "establishing a senatorial republic" but you have it in case a player tries to do it
That's exactly it. It's a question of whether you're a referee who finds it freeing to have that ready if you need it or a referee who finds it onerous to have to look that shit up if it ever comes up. There's no right or wrong here, it's a matter of personal style.
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>>97627358
So you're saying Macris shares 70%+ of your design style but he's also not a massive tranny commie faggot? Sign me up!
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>>97627366
This is exactly why I backed ACKS 2 lmao
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>>97627366
>>97627403
You do you anon, I put the info there, you do what you want with it.
FYI your obsession with trannies is telling.
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>>97627411
There are multiple people on this site, thanks.
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>>97627424
Whatever Alex.
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>>97627338
Sadly that tracks with how big a chud it's Creator is. That was the only thing interesting in the books
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>>97627411
I bet his computer is full of chicks with dicks porn. All the right wing chuds obsessed with transgender folks tend to be really into it in secret
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>>97627450
>AI is bad because we don't get to control what is made anymore and make sure it's all shit that sucks
Seems like AI is good
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>>97627467
Just when I thought you Shrills could not sound like bigger ones, here you are out put neon lights to show us how much you love ridding a chuds anti creative cock
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>>97627310
>Example?
The explorer's camouflage feature that I already had to argue against for not letting someone sneak across open ground. I know I am the GM and can do whatever I want, but when you start negating or nerfing characters' abilities, you immediately are creating bad feelings among your players.
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>>97627512
lmao love to see you crying about how badly you've lost
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You can tell the tourists and activists don't have anything but they just don't like that creator isn't a woke fag like them. I am not saying ACKS is the best TTRPG, however it's great for what it wants to be. This isn't baby's first TTRPG or one of those good vibes TTRPG. However this is a rich TTRPG that you can easy do what you want cause they have rules for it. Just want to be an adventurer, you can do that. You want take over lands for a lord, you can. You want to become a king and rule a nation. They have rules for that. Hell, if you just want to be a merchant. They have tables and rules to let you for that. Want to be that mage with a tower crafting new spells, or trying to become immortal. However you keep getting classic leftist "We going to gatekeep everyone that isn't a 'current card carrying' leftist" however they love to whine and complain about gatekeeping if they don't get into leadership positions.

Though I guess that too much reading. To the TLDR
HOES MAD and they just want to gatekeep TTRPGs is doing good so they got to try to cancel and ban them anyway they can.
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>>97627338
>>97627450
That isn't entirely true by the way. Macris admits that he's put some AI art in the past to cover extra blank space in the books, but doesn't anymore. Plus the credits section for the rulebook has loads of artists. So the art in these books aren't the soulless A.I boogeymen people in this thread are claiming, nor is the art the based defeat to liberal artist establishment that other people in this thread are claiming.
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>>97627572
Glad to hear. The art was the only thing I found interesting about the books.
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>>97627601
Yeah, the books tell you who made everything. (The only art I remember that might have been A.I was concept art and space filler that wasn't in the final project.)
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>>97624991
Reminder that ACKS has a feat system called "proficiencies."
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>>97627634
>>97627572
>both users use the same typo spelling of AI
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>>97619383
B/X was already better than Gygax D&D.
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>>97628113
Yes, and? It is well implemented, non combat options are usually more useful than the combat options and if you don't like ine you picked for some reason you can swap it out with enough down time.
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>>97629155
Shut the fuck up, ACKShill.
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>>97629168
Dilate
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>>97629155
Why are you lying to people here.

ACKS's proficiencies are such a half-assed glob of shit smeared onto the B/X system that doesn't want them and is made worse for them. They're little more than a blurry-eyed copy of 3.0 feats, and help demonstrate how poorly balanced the whole game is because most of the feats are worthless unless you really go out of your way to try and make them useful, and they're competing with just boring combat feats or basic boosts.

The dumbest thing is you can select some of the worst feats several times and get only a marginally improved version, in case wasting one feat didn't seem like a bad enough decision yet. It's almost like they were deliberately trying to make something awful, and there's even class features tied up in them.

I understand you're trying to trick people, but you don't even understand basic principles of game design. Hell, even most of the few remaining ACKS players admit that proficiencies generally suck and many avoid them altogether.
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>>97629155
Shut the fuck up, ackshill
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I own physical copies of ACKS1 and a few of the supplements. I liked the autistic nature of the tools presented in the game to supplement my own BX amalgam of systems. The art was also fantastic for my taste.
ACKS2 is just too much extra layers of shit that I’d never want to use, personally.
Art vs artist re: Macris’ political leanings. Gygax was a cocaine infused star chaser who practically abandoned his family in pursuit of fame. Still love AD&D 1e though.

>>97627601
The new art in ACKS2 is garbage compared to the art in ACKS1, AI or not. It’s utter shite.
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>>97626787
An Echo Resounding is a domain scale add on to LL, but works on a more abstract keyword model rather than a hyper granular model. Not for everyone but its an alternative. Worlds Without Number or Wolves of God could also work depending on what sort of game you're running.
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>>97633089
Shut up, shill
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>>97633123
Look the NPC is just a one script repeater. Though brownshirts tend to be just that. I accept you surrender. You can come back when you can do more than just repeat the same thing over and over again thinking that all you need to win a argument.
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>>97633132
Lol u mad shill?
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>>97633379
>Parrot keeps screeches and repeating itself.
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ACKS faggots should buy a fucking ad and fuck off.
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>>97633545
Yeah, how about you say that about your shitty Trench Crusade, did they fix their minis yet? Or do their 3D printed kickstarter still have all those resin traps and all?

I swear, any game that isn't woke as fuck and bent the knee to the commies and leftist queers get this "We should have their "ist" and Phobe" game on this site." However they cry when people want to purge their shit saying we should accept everyone. This is why I call you fags out every single time. You don't want to be for everyone, you just want to control everyone and everything, and you almost did. However, you fags can't make shit. The classic "Evil can't create but twist and corrupt." Hints, why you rarely see any leftist started IPs get big and they just sneak in the back and get into HR and fuck everything up from within already made IPs and companies. Just like a fucking commie.
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>>97630456
>The art was also fantastic for my taste.
Same.
I liked ACKS 1 B&W art and design, much more than ACKS 2. But, I also liked older B&W editions of CoC, VtM and CP2020 compared to the newer ones.
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>>97633869
I like ACKS 2 Art, but yeah. ACKS 1 had more of a painting or classic art to it. Where ACKS 2 felt a little too "digipen" when you compared the two together.
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>>97633699
>Two things can suck at once.
Right, well if you actually believe that shit. Why don't you go after any and all Trench Crusade boards on here? Hell I doubt you go after anything but ACKS and maybe other "non-woke" systems and games. Especially if it's not under a woke Corpo or creator.

>>97633740
Yeah, you're kind of right on that. However that's the woke pulling that shit, not the "anti-woke" trying to distract Americans.

The idea is quite simple. Change classic stories to push your worldview and ideals as well as pushing more mass immigration till you can break the nation apart due to different viewpoints and ideas. the State of the Union was a perfect example of how bad it's gotten. You can't have the left celebrate anything American cause that might make Trump look good. They will say 2+2=5 or at least not admit Trump is right and it's 4 if they can help it. That wasn't from "Anti-Woke" that was from the WOKE BS and that's been there longer than the last 20 years. Just they kick it into overdrive cause the people in charge are really bad at their job and thought they were hot shit cause they were DEI hires. (So you can say the DEI practices exposed and started to cripple their long term plan. Poetic isn't it.)
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>>97633670
ACKS-fags are so owned by Trench Crusade it lives rent free in their heads and asses that they bring it up unsolicited. Not even one word and you're pissing and shitting yourself over Trench Crusade.
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>>97634702
Rich coming from the person who has ACK living rent free in his head and asses along with Trump. I just made a fucking example with them. I don't give a shit about the fairy fucking faggots but won't be touching their tourist edgy game. (To be fair the only thing they had was some sick art but it's not that good and they can't make any good lore to save their ass, and it was right there too.)
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>>97634749
Massive TDS coping and seething.
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>>97634546
>However that's the woke pulling that shit, not the "anti-woke" trying to distract Americans.

How about this:
“Woke” and “anti-woke” (both fucking useless terms that have no discernible definition other than “shit I dont like”) culture wars are pushed by leftist mentally ill people who pretend to be trans AND rightist racist cunts who want to return to the 1950s while everything is crumbling around them.

Seriously, this culture war shit is orchestrated by screeching retards on both fringes, feeding off each other, and supported by opportunist politicians and Epstein cronies.

Let this culture war shit fucking die. Most people don’t give a fuck. It’s not fucking important. I hate both of you faker trannys and nazis equally.
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>>97624937
Dude, ACKS must be awesome if you are tard-raging about it this badly.
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>>97634546
>There is actual proof of exactly the kind of conspiracy I have been talking about for years now!
>But the wrong people have been implicated, so I'm just gonna go "nuh-uh!" and continue to say the same stupid, illogical shit they've been telling me to spout for a decade, because I'm a useful idiot.

This is your brain on ACKS, I guess.
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Where's the link to acks 1 / 2 ?
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>>97634925
Me disliking someone's links to Neo Nazis and Thier proven bad behavior means something is awesome to you?

Those are two different topics. Game design and the actions of the creator community. I have been pretty up front That the bad game design is irrelevant to me when the actions of the owner and his community already was a no go for me.

If being connected to Neo Nazis, having a shilling community that organizes brigading campaigns to go after all criticism of the game and all around being a haven for bigots and racists doesn't turn you off, by all means go look at it. The PDF share thread has em.

Now I don't like the game itself either. I tried it years ago before all of the trash came to light. As mentioned it can be over complicated, I hate race as class and how he handled it. The proficiency system is a hot mess. There is a tone of me gif based criticism on this page that keep getting ignored by the shrill.

Two things can cause something to be disliked at once.
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>>97634970
glad you are into it brother!
there is a great deal for a PDF + hardcover for $10-$20 off on all ACKS books right now
phb for just $75, dmg $60, and mm for $65
don't miss it!
here are the links
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/500015/acks-ii-revised-rulebook
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/500046/acks-ii-judges-journal
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/500047/acks-ii-monstrous-manual
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>>97634970
Don't pay for that shit. Go to the PDF share thread, you will see how to find the links to all the books there.
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>>97635491
fuck off fishfag!
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Lol the shrill is upset. Go buy an ad somewhere. This is fucking 4 chan not Facebook market.
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>>97635359
>if a character dies heroically, they could have a heroes death and have a funeral (btw its to give money/treasure to their next PC)

that's so fucking cool, i'm glad that ACKS codified funeral rites
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>>97634925
>>97635359
>>97636080
This is so fucking blatant holy shit Macris and his shills are pathetic.
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>>97635359
Is this some kind of parody or reverse shilling where you're so retarded and blatant with your shilling on purpose
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>>97637635
>>97637718
>>97637725
>>97637783
>t. Ranny
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>>97637798
I accept your concession.
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>>97637798
You think about cock all day don't you? Hot throbbing girl cock. You are pretty obvious
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>>97637807
>>97637814
>sametranning
Hapless, and pathetic.
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>>97624562
>ACKS weapon damage table is retarded for reasons I will not elaborate on now
Damage... table?
What have you hallucinated this time?
>>97624746
>the books are too long
>why didn't you include more classes in your books
Lmao. This it why no one of any note writes games worth playing. Because you CANNOT be pleased.
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>>97637825
Wrong again, thanks for the concession.
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>>97637853
The dude has a fetish for transgender folks for some reason.
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>>97619383
Bold claim. Even as someone who is ackspilled that is a bold claim. It is however doubtless that Macris developed or codified many of the missing pieces that the big EGG left to DM discretion. Don't forget to let your own imagination run wild. Do not feel bound by what is in written just because someone you respect wrote it.
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>>97637907
Shuuuut the fuck up, ACKShill.
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>>97638155
>looks inside acks thread
>finds people talking about acks
>seethes
I don't understand you people. Don't get me wrong , I've left one off snippy comments in threads I wasn't otherwise interested in, but this level of dedication is usual, strange, one might even call it queer.
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WARNING
>WARNING
WARNING
>WARNING
Argent Aegis has entered the thread to shill a game he barely plays. This "man" jerks off to children in diapers and is a pedophile. Do not engage.
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>>97620805
who's the guy on the right?
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>>97624248
what nazi's does he have ties too?
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>>97638275
Canadian leader of the opposition I think.
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>>97638275
>>97638326
Jfc it's Mike Johnson, the speaker of the house.
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>>97638280
Milo Yiannopoulos
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>>97634925
It's a fun game. Though I admit it's not the best for simple campaigns and more for a long term and late game play. Also, as you can see. Woke commies freaks scream nazi to anyone that doesn't bend the knee to their rainbow pedo flag. Especially since they kind of fucked up the board/table top gaming market since taking over.
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>>97638527
Damn, you're actually going to grasp at straws all day. How have your Traditional Games bee going?
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>>97638580
>nazi's are when gooners can me slurs online
Impossibly mind broken. Best of luck in the next life friend. I've heard enough to know you won't amount to anything in this one.
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I mostly play BX and BX-like systems so perhaps AD&D players will know this one already - if you do, please help me.

Which class of armor would a legionnaire Lorica Segmentata be? AC6 or AC5 are the most likely.
I presume is "harder" than a chainmail but limbs are more exposed.
I was even thinking AC6 but counts as AC5 with a large shield but I didn't want to over-complicate it.
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>>97640834
Holyshit the OSR thread is such a comparable mess I mixed them up.
Will post this one there.
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>>97621217
Damn really? Buying his books rn.
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>>97638356
That's not a nazi that's a gay kike.
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Where can i go to talk about the OSR?
/osrg/ has been hijacked and i'm giving up on trying to fix it, any threads i made would just get mass reported and deleted then replaced with the hijacked OP. I'm abandoning that lost cause and letting them fully run the thread into the ground till it's fully dead (as in bumped at page 9 to keep it alive dead, as dead as /grog/sadly is.)
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>>97642559
Just start your own threads that don't reference the /osrg/, like they told you to do a million times. Call it /worldstiniestviolin/ or something.
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>>97642614
Oh piss off faggot. I'm not making todd or whatever bullshit because NOBODY CARES and you will just go in there and troll it to hell and back. Now fuck off back to your private chatroom, you got what you wanted and your bed is made, now sleep in it. Whatever happens next is all your fault, not mine.
Also to the anon who posted >>97641881 i was polite because it's a mod, if i was assertive i'd likely have got my ban turned into a permaban. You can try to keep fighting like i did, but i'm giving up. I might come back if trollcow finally fucks off or the OP sticks to something that isn't his hijacking (good luck wiyh that.)
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>>97642637
>NOBODY CARES
Maybe you should have taken that hint? Years ago?

For real though, you don't have to start a general either. Look at the A&E thread, that could have been a post on /osrg/ but the question was asked and answered in its own thread. Just do that if you have some specific topic you want to discuss.
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>>9764264
>Just do that if you have some specific topic you want to discuss.
>2e is offtopic, fuck off fishfag
Don't feign any good faith with me for a second. You've successfully conqhered the thread and gatekept all the OSR games you don't like. Now, please, go back there and have a "discussion" about "first decade, gygaxian d&d"
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>>97642637
>I might come back if trollcow finally fucks off or the OP sticks to something that isn't his hijacking
>fish gets bfto repeatedly by anons, jannies and now mods
>no its just one troll who is doing this to me!
ffs mate
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>>97642706
Why do you care? You've won! You've got what you wanted. 2e and all the other non 1e/0e/bx games are all now gatekept from the general. You're now free to talk about ACKS to your hearts content! And rest assured, i won't be posting any new threads, any character sheets for you to nitpick, or well...anything at all!
So please, go back to your beloved /osrg/ and post to your hearts content, safe with the knowledge that any engagement i had or gave is now gone! Whatever happens next with said general in the comic weeks and months has nothing to do with me.
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>>97642700
>2e is offtopic, fuck off fishfag
Yeah if somebody says that *about /tg/ as a whole* when you just post a 2e thread on the board they're wrong and will get wrecked by the jannies, you'll be fine, just look at /2eg/, people are talking about it *right now*. You can literally post about 2e anywhere but generals for other games where it's off topic.

God, you're like those dwarfs in Narnia who could leave for heaven whenever they like but insist on sitting around seething in a barn instead.
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>>97642730
No, i'm not being shuttled into your general you put up to gatekeep 2e from the /osrg/ and validate your attempts to project your personal views onto the OSR as a whole. I'm not posting there, or in the /osrg/ again, unless you and your brigade of 1d4 trolls finally ups and fucks right off. But i'm not counting on that, so i'm leaving with the rest of the regulars you drove out. You've got what you wanted, now enjoy it! Whatever happens next is all your fault, not mine.
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>>97642637
>Whatever happens next is all your fault, not mine.
>>97642725
>Whatever happens next with said general in the comic weeks and months has nothing to do with me.
>>97642751
>Whatever happens next is all your fault, not mine.

>meanwhile /osrg/ has already turned into a pleasant and friendly thread where people discuss actual OSR gameplay and products
LMAO we made our comfyass bed and now we're lying in it just enjoying ourselves, what a torment
Yeah I take responsibility for this.
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>>97642779
Celebrate your sowing today. Tomorrow you will reap it.
That tomorrow may not be literal, it may not be next week or next month, but know it will come.
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>>97642751
You've never actually been able to post about 2nd ed fish. We know. Its never been about that for you, its just that people don't want to agree with your opinion and it infuriates you to the point of literally raving about unforseen dooms to come like a madman in the street.
Your next move will be to broadly interpret all events as being validation of your raving, as you have continued to do the whole time.
You're a cracked head. Its sad but amusing.
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>>97643157
>its just that people don't want to agree with your opinion and it infuriates you to the point of literally raving about unforseen dooms to come like a madman in the street.
I'm not the one who couldn't tolerate the mere mention of 2e to the point they hijacked an entire thread to gatekeep conversation of it. I'm not the one who quadruples down on the lie that everyone who calls then out is all one guy.
>our next move will be to broadly interpret all events as being validation of your raving
Actually it's to walk away, and let you do what will happen. How much drama there will be, how much you sill run /osrg/ into the ground, how much you will drive away any remaining regulars until there's less than 5 of you, and how it will be even deader than /grog/? It's all on you.
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>>97623703
>it just doesn't make sense to me why ACKS is banned from discussion
There are a bunch of reasons.
His fans don't discuss the game and just shill it.
He and his fans stir shit.
He has done things that gave him pretty negative optics and having from spoken with him personally he's too much of an anti-social twit to fix them without sperging out things that'll be interpreted as hyper online rightoid stuff.
He's organized online astroturfing plenty of times.

Places with active discussion are just better off without the socially stunted crowd ACKS brings. The ruleset itself is not at all bad, though huge portions of it were taken from other rulesets and splatbooks of the past that Macris now writes off as his own creations.
A lot of mechanics in it also just belong in a 4x game and not at the table, but because ACKS/OSR retards generally have never had a hobby outside of disliking WotC D&D all of the wordslop on the page is new to them and thus taken as holy gospel.
FINALLY the ruleset doesn't deliver a markedly different experience for the average group. It's hot and all that there are a bunch of clunky shitty shallow systems for managing a domain. Unfortunately most groups, including ACKS groups, don't reach level 5 and play one-off adventures.
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>>97643590
>His fans don't discuss the game and just shill it.
On r/OSR, where shilling is the norm? Unforgivable!
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>>97643652
So this might be a shocker to a zoomer like yourself but there are more places online than just 4chan and reddit. ACKS fans do all of this everywhere. Seeing months or even years dead forums being necro'd by a single ACKS shill is bizarre (forums are one type of place where people used to discuss topics online!)
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>>97619383
It's crazy this guy is actually more Gygax than Gygax himself. If we had Macris in the 1970s D&D would both still be trad and right-wing and probably would be the defining cultural touchstone for a whiter America.
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I looked at ACKS 1e for a bit and you could make a starting character with like a +6 to reaction rolls and just charm almost every monster group you came across. Felt retarded. I know the answer is "just don't allow that character" but I really just want point and click character creation and don't want to have to worry about banning stuff.

It's also only possible with like a sexy female character and there are multiple prestige class things about being a sexy woman fighter or priestess or whatever? I got serious closet tranny vibes off it.
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>>97642559
I don't see what's the problem
You can always make an "osr thread" as opposed to "osr general"
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>>97643900
>does this
>HIJACK HIJACK HIJACK FUCK YOU FISHFAG
>flood the thread with trolling.
No. Now go back to your private chatroom, enjoy it.
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>>97642730
>just look at /2eg/, people are talking about it *right now*
LOL who the fuck are you kidding.
The only one bumping that thread is you, and just so you can say "don't post about 2e in the OSR, go to this dead thread that I bump with the same lame lipservice tryhard posts I use to pretend I didn't kill the /osrg/."
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>>97643900
No, this is bad advice, he should just make the thread be about whatever topic he wants to discuss, not try to push his own rival definition of the OSR.

>>97644152
>he's still obsessed with his idea that everyone else is the same person
I don't post in there at all. One day I bet you'll figure this out.
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>>97619383
I actually like it but we need to move away from retroclones. New games should be written as though the old approaches are copyrighted just as an exercise in developing the hobby. No, your very fatal combat averse survival resource management crawler is not the onky way to play.
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>shills so gay that they were even too gay for reddit
>4chan ends up their new shitting ground

What a fucking curse.
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>>97643399
You are actually the one who couldn't discuss 2nd ed or find any way to bring it into discussion with the general.
>getting rid of trolls is hijacking
lol
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>>97644178
What would you say is an onkier way to play?
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>>97644239
>so btfo you can't link the posts your booty blasted about
lmao even
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>>97644178
It is fascinating to see the cycle of enshitification take hold of indi rpgs. We're at the 2nd ed splat sales, heartbreakers all over the fuck and WoD artsy alternative sales segment before another large market dieoff and enclosure by a large company. That's the 3.5 phase.
>developing the hobby
Yeah, that's the corpospeak bullshit that will get us there, filtered down from suits that already ditched when the money was good.
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>>97644322
>turning the /osrg/ into a private clique for a handful of trolls
>these trolls make most people leave, slowing the thread down to a crawl
>they hope to use the thread like a grooming trap, with any foolish newfag who wanders in bombarded with their insane "gygaxian" cult ideas built around making games feel more like a job

It's good the rest of the internet has ostrasized these losers, but it's a real shame that 4chan ends up being their last respite. If they would just quietly die out on their discord, that would be great, but instead they're hoping that they can still recruit people into their cult here.
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>>97644178
Uh... not that you're not allowed to prefer other games or anything, but why do you imagine that telling OSR players they need to move away from OSR games and make shit they don't like instead is going to gain any traction?
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>>97624746
>ACKS does that in the dumbest, greediest possible way.
>It's dumb and greedy
>He said when all the classes and rules for creating classes are in the main book
Lol
Lmao
Are you high?
If not you should try it.
I can't imagine the shit you'd come out with.
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>>97642779
The fact he talks like this is actually quite concerning really.
It's full on "There will be consequences for refusing to indulge my bullshit" level threats.
At least if we hear about someone mailing pipe bombs to major figures in the /osrg/ over the next few months we'll know who was behind it.
Also, hey, Janny, you mind removing the guy who is basically screaming about how we're all going to pay for this and so on?
He's degroovifying the vibe.
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To put this thread back in a more positive direction.
An Anon wrote up his ACKS campaign a while back and shared it as a campaign report.
Give it a check out.

https://mega.nz/file/id51UZqa#9pZoBcVtOF3vssbZ4kON2WN9XAbGvSi-TStiB9nKTxY
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>>97644482
You mean the 200 page fake campaign he wrote out of spite? that one?
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>>97644524
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
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>>97644394
Everything you've said is why i've chosen to leave /osrg/. I'm joining the other anons in saying "Fuck this." I'm going to let these trolls run the thread even more into the dirt, and let them slow the thread down to 5-10+ hours inbetween posts. They wanted this so badly? You can have it, i'm done and am taking my ideas and contributions elsewhere
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>>97644539
Thanks for the concession.
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>>97619383
ACKS sucks. Also, buy an ad instead of this astroturf bullshit.
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>>97644394
>>97644551
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. The grapes are too sour for you anyway. :)
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Imagine being such a raging narcissist that you think people are going to miss you fucking off on an anonymous text board.
Truly, he must be the Atlas of /osrg/, carrying the entire thread on his shoulders to think that anyone would give a single tug of their cock.
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>>97644524
It's neither fake nor spite. It's just really bad and boring.
The BrOSR encourage its members to do campaign writeups. It's mostly a coping mechanism, because their games struggle to find any meaning or value. By writing everything down, every pointless little detail, they make it feel more "real" for themselves.
They even hold competitions on the BrOSR blogs, asking people to submit their campaign writeups and then having the guy running the blog judge them. It's all an effort to try and make what are ultimately dull games with no purpose feel like they're actually worth something.
That 200 page campaign is that guy trying to cope with how shit his game is. In 200 pages, there's nothing in it worth reading. It's actually sad, and something of a warning, because he's definitely been duped by the BrOSR into running a shit game, and even though he tried to include house rules to make it less shit, it's still just too much of a shit game run in a shit style for it to be anything but yet another pointless BrOSR writeup to throw onto the ever-expanding heap.
I like reading campaign writeups. That's why I know shit when I see it, and BrOSR-style campaigns are the most boring shit written by the most boring people in the most boring style. There's nothing salvageable, because even a well-written version of the highlights would just end up being the most generic set of randomly generated events that could be put together from the most uninspired sources, piloted by idiots who seem to have some sort of vendetta against doing anything interesting or noteworthy.
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>>97644646
God, I miss the poster count.
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>>97644672
Have a freebie
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>>97644651
>as a nogames who reads stories about games and hyperventilates about it I have a lot of bad ideas
We know.
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>>97644394
>slowing the thread down to a crawl
>t. Newfag
I mean, I get that in your case it was impossible to post in /osrg/ pre-trolling, but it was never a fast general until it got deluged by shitposting.

>insane "gygaxian" cult ideas built around making games feel more like a job
See, if you don't like OSR games, that's fine. You don't have to play them, but under those circumstances it's stupendously idiotic to post in an OSR thread.
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>>97644524
>he still genuinely believes this
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>>97644798
Anon he thnks 2e is/n't OSR. He's a maniac.
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>>97644752
Honestly it's even funnier than that.
Go back, reread what he said.
He doesn't suggest a single good idea or give an actual constructive suggestion in his entire post.
He's a noideas, seething about what he thinks are badideas because he's incapable of recognizing goodideas even if they're there.
The purest form of Dunning–Kruger in existence. If we could refine such autism it could be used as a bioweapon.

>>97644798
I don't think even he really believes what he's saying, it's his last reserve of cope after being thoroughly drubbed by someone who didn't even mention him when they posted the campaign.
It was other people that noticed the fishing story of legend and meme was in there.
If it really was about spite, they'd have at least referenced it, but nope.
Check it out;
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96417397/#96439366
Didn't even mention it once, meanwhile this guy is seething about how it was a spiteful, targeted hate-assassination attempt against him personally 6 months later.
It'd be really fucking funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
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>>97644815
>he thnks 2e is/n't OSR
Well, does he or doesn't he think it's osr? Or is this some kind of Schrodinger's twat situation where he both believes and doesn't at the same time depending on which is going to cause more shit stirring?
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>>97644826
You're trying to combine multiple people into one person for some reason, even when they hold clearly contradictory views.

>>97644524 This guy thinks its fake and spite.
>>97644651 This guy thinks its real but thinks it's boring and BROSR.

And, I'm on the side of not really caring if its real or fake or boring or whatever, and I doubt you do either, because I doubt you actually expect anyone to even start reading it. I think you just want people to know someone wrote a campaign report for ACKS.
That would explain why you were spamming it around the board, even in places like the /3eg/.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/id51UZqa%239pZoBcVtOF3vssbZ4kON2WN9XAbGvSi-TStiB9nKTxY/

I do want to mention that the guy who wrote it also coincidentally appeared in the /3eg/ and had a huge meltdown over people shitting on it.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96434718/#96583816
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>>97644921
>Ur spamming it all over the place
>Last time it was posted was 6 months ago
>Mentioned in /5e/ one time when someone outright asked for it
>Has otherwise been posted entirely in /osrg/ and /ssrpg/ (with the latter explaining why he was posting it there clearly)
Do you have actual, medically identified brain problems?
If not have you considered going to the doctor so they can identify them for you?

>He had a huge meltdown
And the evidence you've got that it's the same person is what exactly?
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>>97624408
Anti ACKS shitters conspire on Discord, take over OSR subreddits to ban discussion of it, and are sure to flood any mention on reddit and possibly even some of the 4chan posts are summoned by this same setup. They can't stand that ACKS exists, and it's absolutely an example of what is as near to totalitarian conspiracy as can be accomplished by a bunch of lefty discordtards working together for some shitty ideology.
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Also, man, someone really likes spamming that one post as if it's actual evidence of anything
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/https%3A%2F%2Farchive.4plebs.org%2Ftg%2Fthread%2F96434718%2F%2396583816/
>Most the links to it have the exact same posting style as >>97644651 this post
Isn't that just the craziest of coincidences Jimbo?
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>>97644581
GUYS GUYS
>RUDE DISMISSIVE GAY IS SPEAK
No one cares, he sells books. It's a good game, not that you would know anything about that.
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>>97645051
It's evidence of you having the funniest and cringiest meltdown over people making fun of your story.
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>>97645094
>How dare you imply it's all one person shitting and seething about this rando campaign report that no one else gives a shit about
>Now to imply it's all one person pointing out my shitting and seething
What's good for the goose chokes the gander I suppose.

Still waiting for that proof it's the same person by the way. I'm sure you and your discord raid buddies will have it any minute now.
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>>97643590
You forgot
>The leftist who tried to cancel him got incredibly buttmad about him not cancelling himself and when they fled to their hive of leftist villainy and queerdom known as RPG.net to try to do it again, he got them legally so the entire thing became verbotten because leftism never fails, it was just never tried right.
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>>97645047
>Anti ACKS shitters conspire on Discord
Usually I'd call you a tin foil conspiracy theorist for even suggesting anyone gives enough of a shit to do that. But watching these retards swarm like angry hornets does give off that vibe.
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>>97645120
What seems more plausible?
>The ACKS discord, after being banned from sites like Reddit, has fallen upon 4chan and has been plaguing it with shill posts, resulting in 4chan’s natural anti-shill resistance to flare up.

or

>a discord for people to solely to hate on a game even exists

I understand this is just part of your whole strategy of doing really shitty stuff while also trying to accuse everyone else of doing it so as to try and undermine them from calling you out on it, but that’s quite a leap in logic for you to hope anyone to take.

The fuck would an anti-ACKS discord even be like?
Just people posting
>“That game sucks.”
>“True, true.”
forever?

I think you've forgotten, since you happen to be a particularly shitty person, that most people are not motivated entirely by spite and hate like you are.
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>>97645203
>The fuck would an anti-ACKS discord even be like?

It would look exactly like a lot of political discords. They have a bot that puts stuff into the anti-ACKS channel, which is silent most of the time. The rest of the time they spend discussing how much they hate various people who they have decided are nazis, and making jokes about the people they don't like.

If your imagination is so blank that even this doesn't help, go check out Kiwi Farms. It would look a good bit like the lolcow threads there.
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>>97645120
It's the tranny factor. Once extremely online troons decide to brigade something for the good of the Movement or whatever, nothing really stops them from doing it 24/7 and everywhere, since they're autistic depressoid nolifers.
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>>97645203
What's more likely
>There's a grand conspiracy to shill a game consisting of...
>Talking about it on the /traditionalgames/ board of 4chan where you're meant to talk about /traditionalgames/
>This conspiracy pretends to play the game but never actually does and makes up campaign reports
Or
>A group of discord trannies with terminal culture war brain do something retarded-
I'll take option B for $200 Alex, what is 'Being a brainrotted leftypol culture warrior?'

Know what really convinces me they're legit and you're full of shit though?
All the little specific and details that tell me they're sincere and you're not.
Pic related.
Let's say, theoretically, that you're completely right, every post that mentions ACKS on /tg/ is 100% gayops bullshit that exists purely to shill it.
If so, why this line
>This is a deeply religious world and I'm not letting anyone play a fedora tipper in it
There's a story in that sentence, one that has nothing to do with ACKS and tells you something about at least one of the people at the table with the writer.
Why include it if it's all about ACKS and selling copies?
Why include the bit at the start where he goes 'Also I got rid of this because it was cringe and didn't work for me' if it's meant to be one, big glaze?
Why include a quote from Gaylord Nelson (Admittedly if it is a troll, bravo for telling us on page 5 by finding an excuse to drop that name in there, 10/10 trolling)
Meanwhile what've you got exactly?
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>>97645417
>ACKS bad because it clunky and boring and dull and tedious and repetitive and only shills talk about it and it were written by a neo-nazi who drew a cock on the moon with his nazi space lazer and-
>What the fuck are you on about, there's no cock on the moon, I-
>Ree- Nazi-nazi-nazi-defender-nazi-adjacent, you're seething, having a melt down, raging and shitting and cumming and farting and-
And yet you still can't back up any claim you made, as shown >>97644524 - Here >>97644969 - here or >>97644422 - here.
>It's made out of spite
>Proof?
>Here's the guy having a meltdown!
>Proof?
>ACKS is just greedy (and by implication a cheap cash grab)
>Proof?
You can't even make an excuse. You just ignore it. At least a "Stop asking me for proof of things I made the fuck up, chud." would be addressing the question.
You've even admitted in this very thread that the mods themselves have had to tell you to fuck off and stop bothering people, meaning you:
>1: Know you're being a little shit bag because people keep informing you of it
>2: Tried to go over their head and get Mummy to tell them they have to put up with your bullshit.
In my head I can visualize the other guy at his table, with his group, patiently explaining to Johnny Fedora about how no you can't just flip the bird at the gods in this setting, put down your Dawkins and pick one (My money is on the guy playing Kianto since he has his alignment as Unaligned and is explicitly an exile from his own society. We all know the type.)
Meanwhile, when I try to visualize you, know what I see?
Nothing. Because you're void of substance.
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>>97645120
>>97645388
There's an entire self proclaimed cabal of preformative leftist osr remnants from the G+ days called the Mongrel Banquet Club. There have been several articles about them and their fuckery.
https://scholomance.substack.com/p/mongrel-banquet-club-the-harassment
https://archive.is/0Nv3c
The Bastionland discord was also notably fucked and populated with various /osrg/ regulars and creatives until everything fragmented under the weight of so many mental illnesses in one space.
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>>97645457
You're having a melty right now, bruh.
>Here's the guy having a meltdown!
>PROOF?!?!
You got the link, how much more proof could you even get.

Here's a convenient screencap in case you really want to make the embarassment easy to share.
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>>97645559
>Anyone calling me out is having a meltdown
Nice attempt, but more importantly the question wasn't "Was there a meltdown" it was "Do you have any proof it's the same person who you say wrote it?"
Which apparently you don't since you keep trying to dodge the question.
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>>97645570
Really doubt there's two people as cringey as you and who get so mad about people making fun of his story.
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>>97645643
>My proof is I think it's true, also you're him now as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNy--_r5eW0
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>>97645570
It wasn't his first meltdown, or his first use of that pic along with a meltdown.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96552850/#96557568
He actually had a meltdown in the /nsrg/ where he announced himself as the guy who wrote it while putting on a puppet show by himself where it was just post after post of him seething over getting bullied about his story being bad.
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>ACKS is mentioned
Leftist commies screech and cry nazi. Yet has nothing to say about the GAME itself. Then wonder why more and more people no longer trust anyone who looks Leftist. Maybe if you have a issue about the GAME, people wouldn't see you guys as the "nogaems" tourist activists you are. (Also help any game that goes full WOKE shit the bed. Hell, DnD did and they are already making a new edition to get rid of that that dumpster fire of ONE DND/WOKE DND.)
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>>97645681
>his
>he
You're 100% talking to the guy who had that melty.
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>>97645681
See now that's something at least. Thank you
Alright, read that post and I'm now completely convinced you're a pair of duplicitous faggots that're full of shit.
That post is saying the exact opposite of what the first one is, it's arguing with someone else not to engage with someone (presumably you given you have this thing to hand and are so fucking horny for reposting it) and to remain polite to avoid people having a chance to throw shit.
Complete opposite of the second post in tone and attitude.
Meanwhile what've you got as backing?
>Same file name guv'nur
By which logic I'm now the guy he was telling off in that thread, am I right?
You see why people don't believe you, given your obvious hate-hardy and how the entire thing comes off as a bit shady as fuck right?
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>>97645720
>You see why people don't believe you, given your obvious hate-hardy and how the entire thing comes off as a bit shady as fuck right?
...That's some intense irony. You're so bad at shilling even Reddit caught on to you. Did you really think 4chan couldn't figure you out?
We are so used to samefagging and other ways of people trying to abuse anonymity, and you think you're too clever for us?

I mean, fuck, man.
> the entire thing comes off as a bit shady as fuck right?
You just had that called out earlier.
>>97645203
>your whole strategy of doing really shitty stuff while also trying to accuse everyone else of doing it so as to try and undermine them from calling you out on it,
You're the shadiest fucker on this board, which is probably why it took no time at all for you to start being called a shill.

>Complete opposite of the second post in tone and attitude.
You STILL can't disguise your tone. Not then, definitely not now.
There's a slime on all your posts, and you can't wash it off because that's just who you are.
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Oh and before you say
>Hah, ignoring the evidence, more proof
Alright, maybe you wouldn't do that, fair enough, I'll put my hands up and say that I might have you pegged wrong.
But do you trust this guy >>97645643 to not do something like that given he's clearly half-feral for proving that this story is fake and gay, to the point where he's going "200 page write up? Clearly made up by BigACKS (BattleACKS)."

>>97645771
>You're so bad at shilling even reddit caught on to you
Know what? I take back what I said, you're both fucking horny for this bullshit, he's just can't hide it as well as you can.
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>>97645720
That post's a melty while saying "C'mon definitely other guys, we shouldn't have melties" and then going on and having a bunch more melties. Hypocrisy while taking the opportunity to shit himself like he thinks he's on a stage.
You can't help yourself. You're kind of a bitch.
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>>97645794
>half-feral for proving that this story is fake and gay,
There's only two posts calling it fake.
Every other post is calling it gay though, but that's because that's just obvious.

If you're gonna have another meltdown over people making fun of your story, you're going to have to learn how to do it where you're not trying to lie to people about what's going on in a thread when the threads right in front of them.
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>>97645842
I didn't even call it gay. I called it bad and boring.
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>>97645643
>>97645681
>>97645771
>>97645811
>>97645842
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>>97619383
This guy seems to get a lot of criticism for his political stance.
But I've never seen in in the actual rulebook.
So how is this relevant to the game itself?
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>>97619383
God damn look at that disgusting nerd faggot in the OP
Why do tabletop gamers always look so subhuman?
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>>97646400
That's a poor example of either a tabletop gamer or a human.
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>>97645811
>"Here's proof of why you're full of shit."
>"Wow what a meltie."
Being a downie I suppose you wouldn't know what a meltie is.
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>>97645998
Funniest thing is watching them brush off/ignore this post >>97645720
"It has to be the same person, it has the same image name!"
'...on 4chan?'
"Yeah!"
'Like I do with the image in the next reply from that same thread.'
"Uhhh-clearly you're the same person."
It's incredible to watch people claim others are faggots running a raid on 4chan only to, mere posts later, indirectly admit they don't know how 4chan works because they're not a local thereby proving they themselves are in fact faggots running a raid.
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>>97646500
... Are you for real?

>2 posts
>same exact impotent rage
>same exact hilariously bad attempts at insults
>same seething over people making fun of a story, while pretending all those people are just one person
>same image with the same filename that was almost never used before on this board

I understand you find it embarrassing now that it keeps being brought up as a perfect example of what kind of cringey-retard you are, but back when you wrote that post you probably didn't realize it would be endlessly used to ridicule you, or that the image would trace back to even more of your cringe-inducing tantrums and hilariously inept samefagging.

You probably genuinely thought you were being an internet tough guy lol.

And now, you're BEGGING people to offer you the benefit of the tiniest sliver of hypothetical doubt in the face of huge evidence, when you're the last person anyone would extend any to, and all just to diminish embarrassment that belongs to no one but yourself.
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>this entire thread
lmao
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>>97646586
>It's got the same name - Literally the only proof you have
Meanwhile the two posts are making the complete opposite statements.
People are even accusing him of being you (Assuming you're this fishfag guy they're talking about?) because he's telling them to stop taking the bait with you.

As for
>And now, you're BEGGING people to offer you the benefit of the tiniest sliver of hypothetical doubt in the face of huge evidence, when you're the last person anyone would extend any to, and all just to diminish embarrassment that belongs to no one but yourself.

Do you at least see why no one trusts you on this? Because you're outright crowing about how you're absolutely not to be trusted to be even remotely honest if it means you'd lose points in whatever this weird bullshit game you're playing is?

Speaking of stopping taking the bait, I think it's about time I stopped feeding you myself. Enjoy being crazy I suppose.
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What we are seeing here is the reason pretty much every single game site has banned ACKs. Actual criticism of the game and it's mechanics get ignored and the fanbois are a lot.

In this thread we have seen repeated me mechanical and game design issues brought up and never addressed by the rabid defenders. Totally blind when flaws are brought up.

What the fanbois do however is use a lot of name calling and seem to think there is an elite group of anti-ACKs trans gamers running an Internet wide network conspiring to bring a single B/x clone down.
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>>97646698
>Meanwhile the two posts are making the complete opposite statements.
I understand you think people are idiots, but let me explain something to you.

>Do you at least see why no one trusts you on this?
No one trusts YOU. That's why when you make a post that says "Truly we must ignore this one guy, this one guy I blame for everything, a one guy I will spend another dozen posts crying about", people are not going to read that at face value. They're just gonna see you taking an opportunity to spin some yarn, and it's because you're pretending to give out advice you clearly don't believe in and are not following, and advice that presupposes the same lie you're trying to tell once again right now.

Every time you post, people are reading it not as the truth, but just "what is this retard trying to lie to us about now?"

When you write multiple lengthy posts that spend more time on you inventing your archnemesis with only one or two throwaway phrases about how your nemesis should be ignored, no one is going to read that in the way you're saying they must be interpreted now, because I doubt there's anyone dumb enough to believe a word out of you at all when all evidence works against you.

I'm actually kind of amazed by how badly humiliated you are by those posts that you're trying to pretend they came from different people. It's just a weird misstep. It hardly even matters if they were from separate people, because they're both equally humiliating, but I have absolutely no idea what you even hope to achieve by making that claim when they're so nearly identical. There's no way you're gonna be able to bullshit your way out of it.

I'm almost convinced you're going to later claim that the person pretending that the two posts could be from different people was a falseflag effort made deliberately to have people distrust you even more than they do now. A silly notion, because that would require someone who thinks there's anyone left who trusts you in the slightest.
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>>97646975
It's hard to even imagine a more obnoxious bunch of hypocrites anymore.
>we're not shilling! It's actually anti-shills who are shilling!
This is "cry as they strike you" type shit.
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>>97647076
They throw up ads but won't talk about actual issues. I get it, I love games with flaws too but I don't ignore them or keep posting links where you can blow 70 bucks on a game on 4 chan of all places.
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>>97619383
>ACKShill continues to push game, spurred on by the fact he got assblasted that a non-white sperg used basic math to show the world gen rules were mudcore garbage.
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>>97627212
>I didn't session 0 to set the expectations of my game to my players and sell them on the concept while also laying out the constraints for chargen options
That's 1000% on you, anon.
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>Gets told by the mods he can no longer harass people over in /osrg/
>Same day starts his own thread where he shouts at passers by like a homeless guy on bath salts while they wonder what the fuck he's on about
Please, get help, this is your chance to go and be a productive member of society instead of a burden on this board.



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