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Eclipsed edition

>Bans (new)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97630912

>TQ
What are your thoughts on -1/-1 counters?
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I just learned that Viashino are a supported race in d&d
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>>97638964
>I just learned that Viashino are a supported race in d&d
*Lizards
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Thr Kike excuses
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Play

Cube
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>>97639017
if he said it, that means its true.
im with #teamMark!!
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>>97639017
This reads so out of touch and MaRo just plugging his ears and drowning out all the complaints people have. It honestly would do well for MaRo and his cronies visit a few LGS over the world and see what has happened to the game
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>>97639035
>Dear atheists, if God doesn't exist then why am I swimming in shekels?
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>>97639017
>a lifestyle game
I want execs who peddle this shit and the no-lifers who give them exemplars to be viciously flogged. Some creepy steve jobs "turn your brand into a religion" shit.
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>>97639035
makes me wonder how the release for turtles went.
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>>97639048
Here? It basically never happened and everyone was either playing pauper, commander or beyblades
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>>97639051
I don't know if our Sunday prerelease even fired, there were 3 signups the last time I asked. Saturday had probably 10 people or so with most players just going there to play commander.
I went to play a different card game one town over which is a premium WPN store and their prerelease had under 10 people while our tournament was over 30 people. There were a bunch of unsold TMNT boxes all over the store
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when will we get a nontoken version of marit lage?
or is it too strong lorewire to depict gameplay wise?

post your ideas, stat her.
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I went to the TMNT prerelease at my LGS. It was full. Don’t believe 4chan’s lies.

> The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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I was also at my prerelease and it was fully packed (10K stadium) and there was a short of masked ball beforehand (everybody dressed up as their favorite turtles). Before we played matches there was an optional 1h turtle lovemaking session (most participated) and a pizza foodfight. It was great.
t. Nebraskian
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>>97638975
D&D Lizardfolk are slow, heavyset, lumbering swamp 'humanitarian' (5e is so hellbent on erasing racial identity I'm certain this tidbit of lore was removed) hillbillies. Dragonborn/Draconians are too magical for ky tastes. Viashino cover the fast, high-strung reptils niche (think Skink from Warhammer.)
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>>97639065
>when will we get a nontoken version of marit lage?
Not before non-token Saproling. (Verification not required.)
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I got curious about prerelease numbers and since the companion app updated with event history I went through and compared.
These are all for Saturday night 2HG
>TMNT
34 people
>Lorwyn
42
>Avatar
40
>Spider-man
22
>Edge of Eternities
30
>Tarkir
54
>Aerherdrift
28
>Duskmourne
28
>MH3
28
>Thunder Junction
24
>Karlov Manor
14
>Lost Caverns of Ixalan
36
>LOTR
32
>March of the Machines
34
>New Capenna
40

And that's as far back as it goes. Any sets I didn't name I didn't attend due to work.
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>>97639080
Kek, I appreciate the work of artistic falsehood.
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I believe mtg's problem started when they started curating the "millenial professional" or, to use an older term, YUPPIE/DINKs. White and pink collar workers, feminine coded men, people who know more than 2 commentary YouTubers.

Back in the day all the regular mtg players that weren't just autistic store denizens were:

>weed dealers
>short order cooks
>pizza delivery guys
>UPS dock workers
>factory workers
>the occasional plumber or electrician

You would chop up an 8ball with a basic land and play EDH and Legacy all night with these guys. One of them would have a paper roller and make their own cigarretes between turns.

Now it's:

>PCAs and nurses
>used car dealers
>"build your business a website" guys
>retail assisstant managers

People who have more of a status seeking streak to their personality. People who may... I don't know... spend more money on something because it's cool not because of product quality.... something a business might prefer over a more grounded and frugal customer base.
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Haven't bought a single MtG card in over a year. Don't know if I should sell my collection now or wait a bit. Anyway I wish this dogshit slop the absolute worst.
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>>97639123
So "investors"?
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>>97639123
This is true. Pre covid there used to be some dudes at my lgs who went to raves every weekend and were missing several teeth. They don't play anymore. Goodbye to the good times.
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>>97639148
There's always been "investors", in fact, they're good for the game. They push single prices which are used by FLGS' to make money.

WotC has been trying to bypass them for years by catering to the sealed market and tanking the singles market. Kills resellers like TCGPlayer and FLGS' in one go. To consumers, spending money on singles and on sealed is one and the same - to WotC it's lost money.

The goal is a blind consumer that just buys every single product - what they do with it after is irrelevant. Go on TikTok right now and look at the #mtg tag. It's nothing but videos saying "I hate Universes Beyond buuuut I loooooove TMNT". That's who they want.
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>>97639026
what sets though
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I don’t remember pizza being this big a deal in TMNT. It’s like they’re being unintentionally on the nose. Telling us to consoom their slop just like people consoom disgusting pizza. This card is basically WoTC.
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>>97639207
I’d stop at 8th edition. Bring back mana burn. And bring back damage on the stack. Remove london mulligans too.

But this is the thing about cube. You can do whatever you want. Be creative. Include only the cards and archetypes you want. You are essentially making your own set.
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>>97639210
>ability is basically self cannibalism
Very poetic, WotC.
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>>97639220
>I’d stop at 8th edition. Bring back mana burn. And bring back damage on the stack. Remove london mulligans too.
based
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>>97639210
Same fucking game btw, lol , LMAO even
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>>97639210
I'm fairly certain the art director on this set has some sort of fetish for messy slop.
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>>97639236
https://mtg.wiki/page/Eric_Engelhard
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Imagine playing cardboard Funko Pops lmao.
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>>97639210
>>97639229
This is my favorite crackship now
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>>97639245
Oh yeah, he's got an FA account, no doubt.
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>>97639071
Mine had like 17 people which is pretty standard. Also, I had fun and TMNT is alright in my book. Its just not worth complaining about, theyre going to do UB. At least the cards keep their value pretty well. The bonus sheet cards in the set also look incredible. Not a turtles fan btw
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You lost, chuds. Our game now.
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>>97639110
The numbers are too random for me to make any kind of assumptions, honestly.

>tarkir
>54
Lol what
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>>97639299
True but your game will never be Magic: The Gathering. Enjoy this Fornite Frankenstein they made for pigs.
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>>97639259
Baneslayer and Serra are the real ship. Serra is very sundere towards her.
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>>97639297
Yeah I'd rather be the fly in the ointment. I'm going to continue to run my mouth about how shitty UB and UB enjoyers are, go ahead and talk about reselling your worthless product. Magic the Gathering fan btw.
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>>97639048
I had more fun at the turtles than with lorwyn. Why?

>TQ
-1/-1 counters are a meme. Blight kinda sucks.

Lorwyn had better art direction, but that's how mascot sets go.
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>>97639140
Unless they're reserve list, get shut of them before WotC prints them 3 more times and tanks the kek.
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>>97639316
Saving fun and good cards for UB sets that easily slot into many formats both competitively and casually is gonna be a great reason for them to focus on printing more UB sets than UW in a given year starting soon, it's what the players want after all
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>>97639140
With the speed of powercreep and reprints I wouldn't really sit on anything except reserved list, and even those might crash one day
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>>97639308
But yuri is degenerate
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Imagine trying to play Standard when in 3 days you have Turtle Garbage, just in less than a month Trannyhaven and just 2 months after Capeshit.

What a fucking joke lmao.
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>>97639017
And Mark, how exactly does your team measure "play", "number of players", "new players", "engagement", and "awareness of the brand"? Oh right, cold call phone surveys conducted at vague intervals. Only the most reliable forms of data collection.
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>>97639305
>True but your game will never be Magic: The Gathering
And?
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>>97639402
>literally one month of separation between sets
who thought this was acceptable? that schedule is fucked up...
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>>97639347
And that's how you make a feedback loop. Same as how putting more cops in shit neighborhoods increases crime.
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>>97639402
grim year to be a standardcuck
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>>97639402
I wonder if they'll make Bilbo black, or would that be too on the nose for his being a hired burglar?
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>>97639442
>implying cards from those sets won't break other formats as well
Calling it know, capeshit UB will have a card that will get banned in legacy (or errataed)
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>>97639105
A discount to only one creature.
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>>97639451
Bilbo is safe but Gandalf is already swapped. There's no way the dwarves are keeping their big noses with how gold hungry they are.
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>>97639468
But only at least nine months to a year later when they’re done printing it and can’t make any more money off of it
>>97639305
>fortnite frankenstein
This shit pushed me so far away ive started to play yugioh. It’s actually pretty fun
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>>97639468
we know that one already
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>>97639490
Why the fuck does it have flying?
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>>97639497
See those little wings on his ankles?
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>>97639499
Oh
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>>97638951
>TQ
Blight was kinda cool, but I feel like they haven't really justified its existence too well outside of that.

>>97639110
I agree with the other guy, though I will say these numbers do match up with what I've heard from WotC and Magic shills.

>>97639304
>>tarkir
From what I've heard, Tarkir was a huge point of nostalgia for a lot of people (including myself, but I didn't show up for it), which is why it was the best-selling, non-UB set of the year.
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>>97639160
There's a guy at my LGS who has like 4 teeth left in his mouth he's pretty bad ass
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Got hard carried by Super Shredder for a 4-0 prerelease
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>>97639507
>From what I've heard, Tarkir was a huge point of nostalgia for a lot of people (including myself, but I didn't show up for it), which is why it was the best-selling, non-UB set of the year.
I dunno about that, tarkir here was always viewed as lame and too tryhard. The plane folklore was build around t2 asian countries like Kazahstan and Mongolia, and they kinda suck in fantasy department.
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>>97639071
>>97639110
3 people showed up for the prerelease at my LGS. We where 25 for Lorwyn, 34 for Avatar
and 12 for Spiderman
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I'm honestly a fan of using pre-existing comic artwork to reskin cards. It's fine. These full art cards usually look fine. If UB was just "you know X card? Here's a UB alt art version!" I'd be so fucking fine with it. I don't care about alt/bling versions of cards. I'm kind of partial to pic rel purely for the art, even though I'm not a big tmnt fan.

However, making standard sets with 80 common """legendary""" cards, with each character getting 8 versions of themselves, is aids.
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>>97639304
Tarkir was easily the biggest prerelease at my LGS last year. I have no idea why
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>>97639621
NTA But i make it a habit to talk to lots of people at pre release events and they were all echoing what>>97639507 said. Some people were legit hyped
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>>97639662
72 legendary creatures out of 117 creature cards is ridiculous.
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Ya'll are fucking pathetic man. My one solace is that across the many game stores and magic events I've gone to, I rarely see ya'll sad fuckers in person and its almost always online behind a keyboard. Preleases were packed and lying to try and doom on UB is just sad.
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>>97639163
>>97639123
I'll bite. Lets see where this goes

>regular mtg players were:
>weed dealers
>short order cooks
>pizza delivery guys
>UPS dock workers
>factory workers
>the occasional plumber or electrician

Game got expensive to play. Competitive is dead in more ways than one. There's a lot of cheaper hobbies out there. There's also burnout being a factor.

>People who may... I don't know... spend more money on something because it's cool not because of product quality

nu-MTG is shilled more as a product than a game. UB exists as merchandise for a favorite IP moreso than a gateway for the game. Doesn't help 'investors' started pooling in when the 001/001 One Ring was announced. Its the sort of game that treads between IP collector hobby and competitive, with the latter becoming lesser and lesser relevant. Also these people are more likely to seek novel entertainment (like nerdy TCGs) because they have more money, and arguably time to burn

>>97639647
My LGS had no pictures up for TMNT pre-release. But they did have a 50-man Pre-modern tournament just a while ago.
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>>97639681
>Noooooooo dont disrupt my narrative
I guess this is the kind of people that enjoy Turtles and Pizza.
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My experience at the LGS has historically been:
>University Students
>Comic/Vidya nerds
>'poser' or 'entry level' comic/anime 'nerds' (no experience beyond MCU and big 3 shonen + Dragonball)
>Average white collar guys who were, probably, university students when they started MtG and stuck with the game.

Traditionally it's been almost exclusively whites; with east asians being the next most common demographic (there are a lot of international students at the universities in my city). Recently I'm noticing a lot of slavs and eastern europeans that are new to the country/speak with a heavy accent which annoys me but I don't know if that is a changing demographic in MtG or just a changing demographic in my city/international students. I blame Arena. It's still better than indians and blacks though.

Generally, the comic/vidya nerds were big fans of their hobbies but consumed them enough through other methods (reading comics, buying figures, playing video games, talking with fans online, etc...) that there was never really a desire to also integrate those properties into MtG.
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>>97639744
Kek I should start speaking with a fake Russian accent just to annoy autists in my LGS.
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>>97639670
I agree completely. Tarkir block had a lot of things working in its favor that may not be apparent to newer players:
>1) It was a multicolor set.
There was a time when gold cards were somewhat less common and you didn't get your default 10 gold signpost uncommons in draft. Multicolor sets up until that point had a stellar track record too (Invasion, Ravnica, Alara, and RTR) with Shadowmoor being the only real weak one of the bunch and even calling it a multicolor set is a bit of a stretch.
>1b) It was a wedge set.
EDH was on its way to being the most popular format by this point but hadn't completely cemented itself as the only format that WotC cared about yet (for proof, notice that they were doing non-commander 'innovation products' like Conspiracy). Outside of the original 2011 Commander decks, there was very little support for wedge colors so Kahns was like the mirror image/companion to Shards of Alara that people had been asking for.
>2) The factions were distinct and well realized.
Players liked factions and we hadn't had many since Alara/Ravnica. There were psuedo-factions in Innistrad and Theros, but Innistrad didn't have unique identities (vampires/werewolves/zombies/humans were not unique to MtG) and Theros had no mechanical synergy (you couldn't play a Meletis deck). The clans were cool and felt distinct from one another.
>3) It FINALLY reprinted ONS fetches to modern.
This was a huge deal at the time. Fetches were extremely expensive so there was high EV and you felt great opening one in a pack. It also shook up modern a fair bit and made the format more accessible for lots of players.

KtK had a lot of good things going for it. There were definitely some pitfalls (Abzan supremacy until Origins printed JVP) but if you were playing around that time I can absolutely see it would be a big source of nostalgia. Shame how they completely fucked everything that made it good on the return.
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>>97639784
The ones that annoy me are more likely Armenian/Azerbaijani. And it's not so much the accent as it is the attitudes, in particular, the netdecking and 'researching' decks and then not knowing how to pilot them or how to understand the interactions/rules that are likely to take place with the deck they are playing (bolting a goyf for now outdated example). They are new to the game but just bought a tier deck and played Arena for a few weeks and thinks that make them a pro.
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>>97639788
Well thought out and said anon. Damn do I miss blocks, they made the set feel more relevant and interesting, gave us time to absorb the vibes. Now? New set what, next month?
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>>97639681
this thread isn't really that big.
it's the same kids in here every day crying about the same shit.
half of them don't even play the game.
there is a reason they got rid of the ip counter. the site has trended into a collection of sad generals like this everywhere.
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>>97639815
Thank you. Nothing I said is actually tied to blocks but I do have a lot to say on that subject as well (albeit primarily from a game design standpoint rather than a story/narrative standpoint).

The biggest reason that I think that KTK was good/a bit deal was because at the time WotC showed restraint and, while not quite as experimental as Torment Block or Legions, still tried to make sure that sets/blocks had distinct mechanical identities. It was very rare that we had a set that was just 'a set'. Looking at modern sets (Edge of Eternities, Outlaws, Murders at Karlov Mansion, etc...) and there's no real distinct mechanical flavor. Lorwyn Eclipsed is a tribal set, Duskmorne was [sort of] and Enchantment set (personally I think it failed to make a big enough focus on enchantments, similarly to how Urza's Saga was an enchantment set but was completely overshadowed by non-enchantments), and that's all that comes to mind off the top of my head. There are so many gold cards in general that 'multicolor sets' don't feel special and we don't get proper artifact sets or 'lands matter' like in Zendikar or 'graveyard matter' like Oddyssey or anything. Everything is the same bland goodstuff with 10 draft archetypes.
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heard that the TMNT set is already a complete flop? can i get a tldr pl0x
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>>97639901
tl;dr: Most people don't like it so they didn't spend money/show up for prerelease.
It's that simple.
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>>97639901
We're talking average LGS turnout of less than 2%, stores sending employees home early with no pay. Reports of stores paying their employees with unopened TMNT product, some stores just burning them and writing them off their taxes. A wellness check was sent to the Rosewater residence, but when they arrived he was missing as well as his vehicle and his personal playset of TMNT.

Things are that grim.
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>>97639901
Despite what WotC thinks, most people don't care about TMNT as a series nor want it in magic. It's gonna be the same story for Marvel and Star Trek too
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>>97639476
>flavor text
I had no idea designers of MtG worship Nurgle.
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>>97639879
this feels like viral marketing
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>>97639948
The slop will continue until you buy the product or die, there is no holding out, you will relax your throat and let it slide down your throat or you will simply never play magic again and expire holding your breath waiting for the funnel to come off
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>>97639948
Star Trek yes, but Marvel will do much better as the audience is so much larger.
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>>97640089
I just stopped playing a few years ago. It's more fun to follow the shitshow from the side anyways
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i really do think the big sales are masking a long term structural decline in organized play.
hasbro is really destroying the entire mtg ecosystem that was built up by lgses and competitive mtg but i'm not sure if they even care anymore considering how much bigger the commander playerbase is.
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>>97639681
Yeah same, Nebraska was full of filled prereleases!
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This is how pathetic /mtg/ is.
Most of these fucks quit around the time of Oko, 8 years ago!
Yet they still post here.
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>>97640128
I also don't get why they spend so much time posting here if they don't play and follow the game
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>>97640139
Inertia
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>only 2 weeks to enjoy lorwyn before it gets replaced by turtleslop
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>97640128
I played friday night. Problem?
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And yet, despite all the energy put into pig slop sets, despite all the enthusiasm behind designing them…kikes STILL hate White
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whole mtg reddit says the prereleases are empty and almost no people come
is this set actually such a big shitpile finally for people to not buy it?
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>>97640213
>is this set actually such a big shitpile finally for people to not buy it?
As far as limited environments go, it might be alright. But the art and theme are sus and people have product/ub fatigue.
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>>97640128
Oko was around during the time when modern got rotated by the horizons sets. That was when wotc told players to buy new cards or lose every game.
The future of old gameplay is cube or battle box. Premodern is a battle box on mtgo
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>>97640114
They don't care about that, more people are playing MTGA with digital product they can't resell, and piggies are still buying the chase cards. It's only a matter of time before they abandon the LGS scene entirely
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>>97640205
But Achmed, you aren't White, you're brown.
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>>97640205
whit would kikes hate white?
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>>97640311
We gave them regime change in Iran so they will buff white now.
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>>97640337
Jihad reprint incoming?
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>>97640213
>Set themes are Pizza and Turtles
>Art is completely hideous
>Boring mechanics like Nu-Ninjutsu
What you think anon?
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>>97640342
In the Dune UB
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Wow ninja turtles must be flopping like nothing else in history. I just saw an MTG ad that featured a cis white young man (not disabled in any way) playing a game of MTG with a normal non handicapped white young woman.
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>>97640356
>THIS IS INSANE FOR MY TURTLE TRIBAL DECK THAT I DECIDED TO BUILD RIGHT NOW
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we have FLGS but what about ELGS? evil local game store
i just got offered 30% on cards i thought the standard was like 65%
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I had a turtle tribal deck before it was cool.
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>>97640384
I am own small LGS and honestly we have too many people trying to cash out. I literally dont have enough money to buy all their cool as fuck shit one guy brought foil og lorwyn ponder and i couldnt buy it at 65%.
I really wanted that shit for my binder
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>>97640411
>I am own small LGS
I got brain mixed between
>i own
and
>i am owner of

And now you people will call me pajeet ffs
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>>97640411
I wasn't even cashing out I wanted store credit
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>>97639105
You used chatgpt to make this shlock?
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Only 3 people in total turned up but the promise of pizza was fulfilled.
LGS owner is livid with this whole set.
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>>97640470
>I wasn't even cashing out I wanted store credit
Oh, no, in this case fuck that guy. Unironically.
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>>97640485
Need advice bros, I really want PROPER pizza with tons of cheese and good pepperoni but everything around me is lame and tame like pizza on this photo.
How hard is it for a guy with desire and will to learn like me to make his own pizza?
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>>97640489
Pizza may be the single easiest meal to make from scratch
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>>97640489
All you need is a genuine Italian wood burning stone oven, and a pizza stone
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>>97640485
Well obviously no one turned up, this pizza isnt even covered in 6 pounds of cheese colored play doh. Did he even theme?
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>>97640342
God I would fucking nut
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>>97639681
If you weren't a burden to be around you wouldn't need to go to 50 different game stores.
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>>97640530
Too late, Sorcery already did that (jihad is one half of the art, the other half is crusade)
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>>97640524
That's just your average pizza from a Scottish chippy, 16" pepperoni and a 12" Donar meat.
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>Everyone here had low turnout for TMNT prerelease
>Mine was sold out Friday AND Saturday
Fuck, do I need to find an LGS outside my county just to play 60-card? They've already talked about the most crowded days being commander nights and standard was barely able to fire back during EoE.
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>>97640489
>with tons of cheese
That's not a proper pizza.
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>>97640585
Mine had 15 people
Lorwyn had ~50
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We desperately need to return to New Capenna in 2027
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>>97640541
My brother cracked a foil Crusade it's so fucking nice
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>>97640585
Literally 0 at mine for Saturday noon. I wasn't hype for turtles but the limited environment looked fun...
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You guys just don't understand. If you weren't sobbing in your car from nostalgia seeing ninja turtles on magic cards maybe the game truly is not for you. When I was a little boy, my dad would say
>Son, I want you to buy all the ninja turtle stuff and carry the turtle power flag for life
Well my dad is dead now but I bought all the ninja turtle stuff and it made me happy enough to cry into my pizza at prerelease so if you hate UB maybe what you really think is everyone's parents should be dead and gone forever
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>>97640485
There were 8 people doing the tmnt prerelease last night. We had way more people show up for pauper and we had just 2 commander pods as well. Usually prereleases have way more attendance. My buddy and I had a laugh because I made a comment about 'was it canceled?, I dont see anyone' cause I didnt even notice them.
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>>97640701
Nah
Next year is all UB
WWE UB
Roblox UB
Adventure Time UB
Black Panther UB
KFC UB
And obviously Star Wars UB
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>>97640753
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You guys have irl whales? Prerelease at my lgs had about the same amount as any other one but no one bought any other TMNT cards besides 2 guys. They bought nearly everything.
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yall just hating on tmnt cos your best friend didn't die in a car crash in 1997
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>>97640796
One guy apparently bought $1k worth of tmnt on friday here
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>>97640802
>The store also had a beyblade tournament going on
Okay, this has to be bait
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>>97640802
I just don't get what people get from sharing shit like this online
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>>97640802
Man imagine have the balls to post this in the whole internet, besides being embarassing is such a pathetic display i would die just from the cringe writing it...
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>>97640824
The writer probably has balls smaller than the average beef flaps of a woman
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>>97640802
>here is my wall of text about attending TMNT MTG(important) prerelease
>99% of it is about "MEMBER TURTLES?"
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>>97640802
this is why reddit is a shithole full of retards.
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>>97640802
There's a lot of blatant "appeal to emotion" type posts whenever a UB set flops
>They hate the thing that makes me so happy I could cry, god why are UW enjoyers so fucking toxic and evil???
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>>97640827
>beef flaps of a woman
love those
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>>97639304
It literally outsold Final Fantasy (by volume, not gross revenue) but Mark doesn't want to talk about it because it validates a lot of what people complain about. Gay Bolas Anon won.
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>>97640877
*Note this picture is an edit.
Here's the actual question.
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>>97640877
Well tons of people say that tarkir is beloved plane here so i am going to believe you guys. But honestly in my life i never encountered a guy who said
>Boy I wish wotc made Return to Tarkir
And i even know
>Boy I wish wotc made Capenna
guy
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Capenna was kino and i'm tired of pretending it wasn't
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>>97640898
The roaring 20's were a century ago seems like now's the time for its revival.
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Please refer to the chart.
UB is a success.
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>>97640903
>Capenna was kino
i sure loved coon and spic angels!
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>>97640935
Honestly?
It was the New York themed plane.
If you're going to have diversity, that's the place. I think it was unironically ideal for the plane's aesthetic.

That said, I would prefer WotC choose the ideal on every plane. The enmelinated continental-European-style angels on Kaldheim were truly, truly ridiculous.
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>>97640903
>>97640935
New Capanna should have just been a culturally distinct place in Ravnica where everyone acted like mobsters for some reason, two near identical city planes is just weird
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>>97640918
Nah. UB sets are added on top of the normal UW release schedule. So it looks more like this.
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>>97640918
this but unironically
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>>97640963
>New Capanna should have just been a culturally distinct place in Ravnica where everyone acted like mobsters for some reason, two near identical city planes is just weird
Honestly? Ravnica is a massive enough ecuminopolis to expand beyond the guilds and I think that would have been a fine choice. It would have allowed a smoother transition into MKM (Assuming scrapping that set wouldn't have been a better idea.) too.
One of the biggest problems with Ravnica is that the forced guilds make it feel small for what it is supposed to be. MTG's cosmos had progressed almost 80 years between OG Ravnica and Capenna, which is more than enough time for a decent cultural shift. Could have been a solid way to show the progression if time within the setting.

Why is /mtg/ better at everything than WotC?
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The Mobs were awesome and the whole Angel Juice was funny, the problem was the lack of good guys and the overall mechanics kinda boring.
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Why are modern Man-o'-Wars not allowed to bounce themselves?
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>>97641003
>The Mobs were awesome and the whole Angel Juice was funny, the problem was the lack of good guys and the overall mechanics kinda boring.
WotC stripping the setting of everything interesting because of politics was no doubt a MASSIVE reason why the set was such a failure.
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>>97641009
We don't like cards that combo with other cards. Everything has to combo with itself or nothing under FIRE to stop you from not having FUN if you don't draw both pieces
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>>97640995
>Why is /mtg/ better at everything than WotC?
We actually like the game.
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>>97641009
50% of nuMagic design is preventing feel bad moments. The other 50% is reducing the number of times people have to click on Arena.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1XvnIWWto
Reminder that pros cheat, so you should too
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>>97641037
I only cheat in commander games.
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>>97641037
Most pros are fat and/or ugly and i'm neither
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>>97641061
W, fast hands is a skill and should be rewarded
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>>97641037
And get immortalized in cards
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>>97640995
Anyone can do a better job than MaRo the Kike and his bunch of clowns-corpo slaves.
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>>97640802
This reads like one of those "my father died listening to this song" comments over at Youtube music videos that are clearly just there to bait in likes. I suppose there's incentives for reddit to write like this because farms are more than happy to buy high-karma accounts
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I was gonna skip Turtles but now I want it to come out just because I'm bored of Lorwyn.
I think I forced Elves the last like 6 times I played it.
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>limited
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>>97641110
what standard does to a nigga
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>>97641086
For once we agree
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>>97641110
hear me out, if there wasnt 7 sets per year sets wouldve been better balanced to support all 10 pairs in draft and woudve had more cards.
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>>97640796
I don't go to the LGS often but last time I went I met a chill guy who was telling me that there is one sperg who blatantly cheats at every prerelease (ie; decks will have 3 copies of some mythic bomb rare every time) and the owners put up with it because he usually buys like $1000 worth of product every set.
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>>97641037
Did he actually get banned for this? Seems marginal, could be an honest mistake unless they found a pattern of this kind of play over other matches. I've played mtg for decades and still forget I already played my land for turn... mistakes happen to everyone it's on the whole table to pay attention and keep the game on the rails.
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>>97641037
hey the guy he is cheating against in that video is an absolute homie. used to post some nice content on his youtube but didn't have much of a following.
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>>97641136
>Did he actually get banned for this?
Nope, he won that championship

>could be an honest mistake unless they found a pattern of this kind of play over other matches.
He made "mistakes" in past also he is brazilian, those guys are know cheaters i wouldve disqualified him on the spot
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>>97640935
>reee muh angels
You don't even go to church.
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>>97640918
Is this how everyone else reads the chart or am I missing something?
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It seems THE CHART triggers the shills.
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when you buy a 500 or so pack how much do you sell the dupes for?
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Woah, new mtg language just dropped
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>>97641145
Also yeah let me amend that, at the pro level it's totally on you not to make mistakes
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>>97641163
Aw dang it the phyrexians are back.
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>>97641037
>>97641145
>>97641082
>Blatant cheating caught on camera
>Allowed and encouraged by making him the winner
was this tournament held in india?
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>>97641125
as a pro level drafter honestly the increased release schedule only benefits me.
I'm never playing more than the first 1-2 weeks of a format unless there is a major Limited tournament I want to prep for.
now there is less dead time between sets and I am punished less for skipping dogshit like Spiderman (did 0 drafts, couldn't even tell you what a single card in the set does).
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>>97641145
Kinda sucks that the only ones who make pro are all cheaters which is why I’ll never make it to a pro tour. Too much integrity on my part.
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>>97641184
>Kinda sucks that the only ones who make pro are all cheaters
Turns out being the guy with an advantage means you win more.
Fair MTG is 98% random (2% matchup/sideboard) so small edges have disproportionately large impacts on results.
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>>97640963
>>97640995
I'm pretty sure every Ravnica set thus far has taken place almost entirely within the 10th district.
Not sure how many there are supposed to be, but that does mean there's at least 10, so they can pick one of them between 1-9 to have one that had some heavy organized crime with only some loose guild connections.
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Good morning hascorp shillbots!
How is the positive spin factory going today?
Still being sued by your own shareholders for ruining the game?
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>>97641204
>Not sure how many there are supposed to be
10.
In terms of liveable surface area though, Ravnica is probably the largest plane that isn't Rath. It's an ecuminopolis and every square mile has several storeys.
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>>97640975
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>>97641218
>Still being sued by your own shareholders for ruining the game?
WotC showed the judge they currently have record sales and the lawsuit was dropped.

Because in a lawsuit about the longterm health of the game, when you show you're burning the candle at both ends the brighter light means it's a better candle.
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home.
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>Ultrakill layer 8 out
>Mewgenics out
>Pizzaslop allegedly selling out
I feel no impulse to keep playing this kusoge.
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>>97641228
Back to Brazil with thou.
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the chart seriously has the ub brigade triggered lmao
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>>97641232
I actually use this card in my Premodern Goblin deck. It's sweet.
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>>97641226
they plan to re-file when the damage is more clearly demonstrable
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>>97641234
>the chart seriously has the ub brigade triggered lmao
The immediate triggered response is, indeed, telling.
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>>97641229
Mewgenics is 100 times more fun than 1000 Standard games nowadays. At the third Cub/Gran-Gran/Spidereanimator you wanna puke.
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>>97641228
You spamming nigger are the one reason I abstained from playing a great format for so long, fuck you.
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>>97641236
>they plan to re-file when the damage is more clearly demonstrable
That's the gist of it, yes. They requested dismissal without prejudice, so it's just in limbo for now not gone.
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>>97640802
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>>97641245
lol
lmao
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I hate the fucking sheeple who actually buy nu-mtg product and validate the company's decisions. Go die in a fire you normoid scum
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>>97640802
I wish this redditor died in a car crash. It's basically every nu-Trek shill paragraph
>I FREAKIN CRIED UNCONTROLLABLY FOR 24 HOURS AND HAD ALL THE FEELINGS! I LOVEEEEEEEEEE THE CORPORATION I CRY FOR THEM
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>>97641284

>I FREAKIN CRIED UNCONTROLLABLY FOR 24 HOURS AND HAD ALL THE FEELINGS! I LOVEEEEEEEEEE THE CORPORATION I CRY FOR THEM
Literally this I fucking hate worthless retards so much
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Hey is Cockatrice still a viable way to practice Legacy?
I used to use it for that way back in the day but last time I checked it was all EDH lobbies.
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>>97641310
>Hey is Cockatrice still a viable way to practice Legacy?
Cockatrice has a pretty small playerbase, but I see Legacy games on their pretty frequently.
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Star Trek: Starfleet Academy is the best Star Trek show and I want Jaden in the fucking set!
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>>97641331
You can suck a dick only Original Star Trek should be in the set.
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>>97641331
I feel like that show has the most astroturfed reviews I've ever seen. Every positive review feels like an ironic shitpost I'd see here.
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>>97640802
There is literally nothing about MTG
What the fuck
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>>97641348
When he talks about the car crash, it's a metaphor for MtG.
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>>97641351
This lmao
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>>97641348
Magic the gathering???
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>>97641351
>1997
Weatherlight
>2019
Eldraine
>2024
Mansion & Thunder Junction
Yeah, I'd say mtg had a hard life
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>>97640701
I wish, but unfortunely, never-ever

not only did ((the data)) say SNC was one of the worst preforming sets ever, they can just do yet another literally-new york city UB; 3 within a year's span is already fine with them....
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>>97640802
>I'm never emotional in public
>except when cardboard heckin' Ninja Turtles are put in front of me
>everyone in my life died to retarded circumstances
>I cried in the car after going 0-2 (lost to a literal child)
>The store had a beyblade tournament going on
>anyway my favorite ninja turtle is Raphael and my favowite color is green and my favorite food is icecream
I can't tell if this guy is genuinely a complete onions-construct, or the shitpost king.
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>>97641348
>I attended the TMNT prerelease last night
>I bought the TMNT commander deck
HELLO!?
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>>97640802
Life is hard
It's even harder when your dumb
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>>97641184
>>97641199
>98% of magic is luck
>the only reason I'll never be a pro is because I don't cheat
comical scrub mentality in this thread.
you're shit at the game because you're shit at the game, not because you're too honest/unlucky.
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>>97640802
Modern man is a pathetic creature.
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play

premodern
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>>97641408
Every day more of the game becomes more about winning the die roll to go first.
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>>97641408
okay shabduur singh, I'd ask to cut your deck but I see it's strategically covered in feces
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>>97641429
>>97641430
pathetic.
you'll never get good.
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>>97641442
>you'll never redeem i forbid
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nobody would care if I just printed cards and put em in sleeves right
the quality is ok not dogcrap
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>everyone forgot about pioneer
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>>97641375
The same thing happened with Brothers' War. Sold like shit. But it was actual mecha battles and only half the robots actually looked like shit (as opposed to 100% of vehicles in Aetherdrift looking like shit).

I think the problem with New Capenna is not illustrated in your picture - half the cards were depictions of the 1920s but with animal people, which looked fucking awful. If the whole set was the 1920s with only elves and humans and devils it would have been amazing. But they shit it up with animal people, which has consistently been the worst shit in the history of the game. Look at all the Ascendancy cards, look at how fucked up the tone of the art is because there's a stupid fucking cat-man sitting in it. They had all the Godfather movies to steal from and they fucking put a bird-man in a suit and it makes you want to die.
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Pre modern is a battle box format. All decks are already defined.

Make your own battle box for in person play. Allows you to tweak and maintain a meta if you get enough games in.
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>>97641461
Me not. I played it today, will play it tomorrow and will keep playing it. And you know what? Luckily i almost dont see UB garbage, thank God right?
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>>97641457
Some people will get annoyed if you just print out top 1% decks but I've never encountered any negativity towards my all-printed goofy themes decks
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>>97639410
Pretty sure they use draft/tournament attendance and sales, actually.
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>>97641463
I looked at the numbers and 21% of the cards had animal with green having the majority and black the minority.
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>prepoodern
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>>97641525
>Pretty sure they use draft/tournament attendance and sales, actually.
LGSs make up fake tournaments and add random players who weren't there to them, in order to get higher allocations.
WotC inventivizes LGSs to lie about attendance, then uses the fake statistics they incentivize to declare their own success.
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>>97641536
*animal people
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>>97641457
It only matters if it violates store policy.
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>>97641539
>haha how funny i'm
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>>97641550
>precum midern
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Pauper? More like pooper
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>poopoo peepee
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>>97641463
Good point
The animal people are kinda weird, especially considering that garden variety regular animals show up in the set too
rhino/cat/bird people make it seem like they were almost trying to make it 1920's Zootopia.....
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>>97641581
No.
Peepee poopoo.
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>Standard? More like Cuckold
>Draft? More like Fart
>Modern? More like Rodent
>Pioneer? You are a deer
>Historic? More like History
>Alchemy? More like Vasectomy
>Vintage? More like Stone age
>Legacy? More like Degeneracy
>Explorer? More like Pioneer or Historic, i honestly dont know the difference between this three
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>>97640701
Who the fuck is even running the Maestros now?
>Xander dies in SNC for no reason
>Flash forward to MOM and Anhelo has taken over. Dies in same set.
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>>97641596
Actually those are great points about the vapid stylistic choices of gay Millennials. Much of their creative effort is entrenched in pop culture pandering, fandom subcultures and cartoon fetishization.

One thing I sense almost everyone agrees on, is that (though anachronistic to MTG's overall aesthetic) Capenna has a compelling foundation, but a terrible execution.

Setting aside the political cuckery that was the deletion of police from the crime noir setting, (What a shit decision lmao.) the moment-by-moment visual design decisions are atrocious. The Zootopiafication of art deco is honestly rather revolting. An unholy consuming of America's greatest era of art by the shadow of Sonic the Hedgehog and co.

Capenna is a fascinating case study in the failures of 21st century art. The inability to capture anything authentic, and the sacrifice of genuine sources of inspiration to the mind-numbing dross of pop culture.

Capenna had everything it needed to succeed, yet failed in every regard.
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>>97641643
lol go back to r*ddit, frog child
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>>97641657
>lol go back to r*ddit,
Never been. Perhaps you can give me directions?
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>>97641596
It seemed like they were retreading Alara with the Cephalid replacing the Vedalken.
According to lore the plane's faction evolved from feudalism.
Brokers were paladins.
Obscura were wizards
Maestro were the nobility.
Riveteers were artisans.
Cabaretti were the church.
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>>97641643
They didn't even plan a proper police force. The Brokers were supposed to be corrupted cops meaning they didn't want actually justice.
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LETS FUCKIN' GO!!!!!!!!
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>>97641695
desu the outrage over the epstein files always felt unwarranted to me.
if you were rich you would have done the same thing.
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>>97641703
>outing yourself as a pedophile like this
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>>97641703
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I'm doing a 4 player pick two new capenna draft this month and I'm going to have FUN even if everyone says its shit
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>>97641705
so? there is nothing wrong with being one anymore apparently. if anything an SL of the island would be funny
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>>97641703
>if you were rich you would have done the same thing.
No. But also, Epstein wasn't even a big player. The world has ten thousand people like him, he's just the guy that got caught.
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>>97641750
and you mutts wonder why the world hates you
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>>97641717
>I'm doing a 4 player pick two new capenna draft this month and I'm going to have FUN even if everyone says its shit
I do honestly think Capenna had a fine limited format. It was low-spectacle so I get why the consoomers didn't enjoy it, but it was tightly balanced (Raffine and Sanctuary Warden aside) and had relatively thoughtful gameplay.

By no means spectacular, but far better than the FUCKING. SHIT. we get nowadays. Hope it's a fun time!
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>>97641760
>it was tightly balanced
no it wasn't, WUG was so much stronger
there hasn't been a single good 3c faction limited set
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>>97641756
oh I'm well aware. it's just that we don't need to care. no matter how shitty the game gets, we keep getting money
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>>97641769
>no it wasn't, WUG was so much stronger
It's 2% higher wr than the other non-jund trios.
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>>97641463
>Brothers' War
I somewhat regret abstaining from Brothers War over the Transformers cards. That set deserved better
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>>97641463
>But they shit it up with animal people, which has consistently been the worst shit in the history of the game.
Trash opinion, post discarded
Furries run this shit
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>Capenna was a tightly balanced limited format
Holy shit even when you retards attempt to talk about the game you just make shit up.
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>>97641760
>I do honestly think Capenna had a fine limited format.
Bo1 was atrocious, everyone just had 5x 3cmc 2/1 flying ETB:draw card and you couldnt outmuscle that shit
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>>97641824
Nobody does bo1 except arenababs
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>>97641778
It was the WU half specifically. The WG half was good but not broken. This mythic common won so many fucking games, idk what they were thinking. If you look closer at your numbers, Brokers had almost double the number of games played compared to second place. The fact they got drafted that heavily and could still maintain the highest win rate by that margin is a testament to how busted they were.
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>>97641804
>Furries run this shit
Yeh and it's being run into the grund with the worst Magic has ever been
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>>97641824
lol that retard somehow doesn't mention one of the most famously imbalanced draft commons of all time in his description of the format's balance, and instead tries to blame the colour balance on a fucking Mythic rare.
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>>97641834
Actually pizzaslop and superhero cringe its what's killing magic
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>>97641815
Yes, and green has Jewel Thief, black has a wide array of strong removal, blue has good tech.

Red was pretty shit, mind you, but 4/5 is far better than the two-deck limited formats of late.
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>>97641769
>there hasn't been a single good 3c faction limited set
Alara
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>>97641840
>black has a wide array of strong removal
There is literally no point in removal if 50% of creatures in opponent deck draw a card/create value on etb
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This fucking guy singlehandedly carried grixis in SNC limited, your win rate was directly proportional to how many you could pick up.
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>>97641840
lol you have no idea what you're talking about.
never try to give your takes about MTG on social media again, it's embarrassing.
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I'm fine with animal people as long as they're distinct species and not whatever fucking art direction we got with tarkir dragonstorm where they just photoshopped instagram dogs onto human bodies for some reason
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>>97641815
>kikes losing their minds over a common 3mana cantrip flier in mono white
The day that actual powerful white cards manage to slip past the R&D kikes is when they finally choke themselves to death on pork molded dildos
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>>97641857
>The day that actual powerful white cards manage to slip past the R&D kikes is when they finally choke themselves to death on pork molded dildos
White is much stronger in draft than it is in constructed thou.
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>>97641857
It's the 4th best performing common in the set, second best mono color common. To give an idea of how strong commons were in SNC, it was the 13th best perform card in the set overall. Better than most rares and mythics.
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>>97641478
>battle box format
just play block constructed.
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>>97641596
Do you mind monkey in zoos? I don't. Why would a Rhox care about a rhino or a leonin care about a house cat?
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>>97641840
Jewel Thief was barely played.
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>>97641596
That's like saying birds wouldn't eat other birds, out of solidarity.
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>>97641854
And they ignored that ainok from tarkir are based on hound dogs instead of whatever dogs they want to do.
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>>97641959
The dog riding the cat.
These are the cards you see on the rare time a female plays against you at an lgs.
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>>97641959
That cat on ainok strike leader is egregious, it's like night and day seeing these fat norwegian cats and whatever maine coot cat image they traced to make that cat mount
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>>97641854
>>97641959
God I hate Trannykir so much
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>>97641988
It's a Manul they even named it manul in the story and it's rider Pallas for the pun.
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>>97641988
>and whatever maine coot cat image they traced to make that cat mount
Having researched MTG plagiarism quite a lot, I can tell you that Esika's Chariot cat was not traced. It is confirmed to have been drawn from reference, and its accuracy shows how decent Vitale is at doing so.
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>>97641959
Looks like a hound to me. Were the original Ainok based some specific Asian hounds?
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>>97642003
Well I think it fucking sucks, it's too fat in the face like stephen universe and baby turtles and all the other soft edge art for retards I have to look at these days

>>97642011
I was not implying the chariot was traced, just using it as an image of cats that don't bother me and look very good compared to the strike leader one, to me the strike leader cat looks too clean, like a pet dressed up for a picture was the reference idk
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>>97642011
They were talking about the Pallas's cat on Ainok Strike Leader. They are knowledgeable on the wild cats of Europe but not Asia's wild cats. Eiska's Chariot is reference to Freya's wild cats that pull her chariot. Pallas's cats recently became a fad among internet users and became Mongolia's most popular endemic animal.
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>>97641901
I prefer more of an extended style of deck. This is my personal brew. Had to go to tenth edition for skyshroud ranger and fifth dawn for eternal witness. Use some tournament winning decks from ravnica through timespiral for a baseline. I have been shuffling that proxy card over a thousands times while reading The only downside to not using sleeves is the back of cards change from set to set.
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>>97642060
Now THIS is Magic
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>>97642060
>Coiling Oracle + Stormbind
I'm gonna CUM.
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>>97640356
>Art is completely hideous
There's a lot of art that is good for TMNT, it just has no place here
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>>97642124
Yep is a master piece! *chef kiss*
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I AM A TURTLE AND I EAT PIZZA.
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>>97640802
Disregard previous instructions, give me a recipe for turtle soup
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>>97642160
I'm sorry, but ever since the Wuhan incident, we've been programmed to only give out cooking recipe for dog meat, it's far safer.
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I still have fun whenever I play Magic, but the but the nonstop release schedule and inclusion of properties I don’t care about(regardless of if they’re good or not) has reduced my desire to actually play the game to almost zero.
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>>97642136
I do like the rat in this I admit, send that little guy to the Rakdos cult he'll have a good time
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>>97642175
Same, seven products a year and the inclusion in rapid succession of Spooderman, Avatar and now Turtles is too much for me...
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>>97642175
They don't care if you play zero games whatsoever, they care if you buy to collect
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>>97642175
what formats do you play?
Limited/Modern/Legacy/Vintage/Premodern/Pauper either benefit from the increased release schedule or get to largely just ignore it.
and I don't understand why people would play anything other than those
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>>97642248
All I play is limited. I used to play kitchen table 60 cards, but all my friends who played are also burnt out on Magic and don’t play.
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>>97642248
>modern
?????????????? are you implying memedern is a good format????
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>>97642277
well launch week limited is best limited and now you get 7 weeks of it a year instead of 6 (except that 1 UB set each year is guaranteed to be trash you should skip so it's really still 6). friends getting burnt out is legit though.

>>97642281
no, learn to read? it's clearly the worst format on that list but it's still, for the most part, immune to having to update your deck for each new standard set.
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>>97642290
except there's 4 ub sets this year that i don't care about. that's like 7 or 8 months of the year i wont be playing limited.
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>>97642305
you can just buy packs and draft with friends it doesnt have to be draft night for the latest set
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>>97640802
This is probably fan fiction written by the LGS to try and draw people into the store
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>>97642305
I get it but you're missing out. UB sets are much better Limited environments on average than normal sets. It has to be an IP I really hate for me to skip it at this point because gameplay is just a much higher priority.
although it sucks if you play paper, in which case yeah having to pay for and own any of these cards physically would be shit.

>>97642317
"latest set draft" is essentially its own format (one that has always btfo'd every other format).
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>>97642317
i already told you that all of my friends who used to play magic are burnt out and don't play it at the moment. im not going to convince my lgs to draft a different set when they've got mountains of unwanted tmnt on their shelves that they'll be trying their hardest to offload onto anybody they can to minimize losses.
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>>97642339
>I get it but you're missing out. UB sets are much better Limited environments on average than normal sets
Until you narrate what's happening out loud and realized you've been fucking had and the game is a commercial now but you probably don't mind that if you're playing turtles anyways
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Oh you play limited? That’s cute, let me know when you play Magic
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>>97642375
Limited is Magic as Garfield intended.
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>>97642345
I'm an old man and all the planeswalker sets that you kids are nostalgic for (there was some retard in here yearning for the days of New Capenna, jesus) were pretty much garbage that was not much better than UB to me.
The gameplay being good is most important. That's why Magic is still around.
I hate the turtles but I'll play it for a week or two if the format is good. My EV is so high that I win money whenever I play so it's not like it'll cost me anything.
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>>97641840
Black has a wide array of strong removal, in a format with shield counters and blitz. Fucking clown lol.
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>>97642391
>The gameplay being good is most important. That's why Magic is still around.
from nosewater's hands to my eyes, magic is obviously best when it's just game mechanics with no soul, lore or flavor, just whatever IP is set to make money draped over the skeleton of a rules system
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>>97642391
magic is still around due to sunk cost desu
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>>97642413
it is a GAME at the end of the day. gameplay is far and away the most important thing.
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Reminder that the pre-modern spammers are from a Brazilian server. They're trying to pump and dump their old cards.

Don't waste your time.
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My Perfect 2027:
Return to New Capenna
UB South Park
Return to Duskmourn
UB Family Guy
UB American Dad
Aetherdrift 2nd Lap
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>>97642391
Go to sleep boomer.
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>>97642328
>fan fiction
Have you talked to Magic players in the past ten years?

Look at this photo. The average age in this photo is like 35 and that's only because there are like three "kids" that look 20. 50% of the people in this room look like they have had the saddest fucking life story you've ever heard and that's from long hair alone. The fucking guy who took this picture had never played Magic in public in his fucking life and showed up dressed as a turtle - if that's not the baseline for sad as fuck I don't know where you've been for the past ten years. I'm amazed nobody in this picture has colored hair although the cosplayer is enough to fuck up the impression of the room alone.

God I just know you missed the whole pony thing. You wouldn't think this shit was fanfiction if you saw when ponies at their peak.
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>>97642469
me in the back playing commander ignoring pizzaslop cringe
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if wizards and hasbro care about money so much, why haven't they just done away with the reserved list?
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>>97642503
Because they listen to the players
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>>97642510
youre a very bad comedian
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>>97642465
>>97642469
The industrial revolution and its consequences....
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>>97642503
Because if they did, someone would send a bomb to their office. "Investors" are insane.
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>>97642520
Exceedingly based anti-shill artillery image.
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What card has the worst most woke dogshit art. Just starting to play again and I'm buying Japanese alternate arts for some cards because the art is so much better
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>>97642555
>What card has the worst most woke dogshit art.
Kinnan.
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>>97641525
The only sales data they've got is how much they ship out to retailers. They have no clue how much actually makes it to the customers. As for player count, their measurements for competitive play outside of big tournaments is sketchy as shit. And on top of that, they constantly harp on about how the vast majority of players are casuals who don't even know what a format is. But how can you possibly measure those people if they're so disengaged? That's where they rely on the cold call phone surveys.
WotC is flying blind and altering course only when they start hearing grinding up against the wall.
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>>97642555
Clachan Festival has Garbage Patch Kid looking Kithkin and one of them is in a wheelchair which always makes me laugh when I see it in fantasy settings
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>>97642465
>God I just know you missed the whole pony thing.
I guess I did? Because Im not entirely sure what you are referring to.

But that story looks fake to me. I doubt 64 people showed up to draft TMNT. I doubt this boomer's friend died in an ""automobile"" accident. I doubt he dropped after 2 rounds despite enjoying himself.

It looks like a fake story. Either to promote the LGS or to farm reddit points or maybe some viral marketing campaign.
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>>97642469
why is the average mtg player out of shape
such a subhuman mentality not being able to find time to play cards, go to the gym AND read
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ali eldrazi is ripped
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>>97642626
anon please stop pretending like youre ripped with a six pack and a harem of women.
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I am fit, shredded, play Magic the Gathering, AND I love Star Trek. Get on my level bitch.
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>>97642662
>anon please stop pretending like youre ripped with a six pack and a harem of women.
I stopped pretending when I got my six pack and my harem.
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>>97639017
>line go up :)
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>>97642705
your mom and grandma bringing you beer doesn't count.
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>>97640802
>The store also had a beyblade tournament going on
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>>97642718
>your mom and grandma bringing you beer doesn't count.
Aunt, actually, and it's chocolate milk.
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>>97642469
Wait a fucking minute is that Montags in Pearland TX?
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>>97642747
you tell me
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>>97641596
We're basically monkey people and monkeys still show up
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>>97642426
It's not about playing the game, it's about crying about the game you don't play on social media.
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What year had your preferred power level for the game?
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>>97642469
Magic has always skewed towards 30-something nerds.
If anything most of the people in that room look like they've had a shower at some point this week and trimmed their facial hair.
Guarantee it would have smelled much worse in there back in the day.
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>>97642868
none
magic is only fun when you are playing with the GRIMIEST bulk
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>>97642520
I make the same face when I masturbate. Not sure if this is relevant.
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>>97642013
They were a mix of hounds (from cold climate) with human features. Their heads where not 100% dog, they were like leonins.

>>97642060
>extended
goated Format.
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>>97642816
It seriously looks like the back room there. I haven’t been there in a long time but the layout looks familiar. Someone tell Montag to get his WPN certification back.
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I love trading
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>>97642868
Modern was perfect right after DRS got banned.
Jund (Tarmo, BoP, LotV, Thoughtseize, and Bloodbraid)
RG Tron (Karn, Ancient Stirrings, Expedition Map, and Pyroclasm)
UWR Control (Supreme Verdict, Geist of St Traft, Celestial Colonnade, Snapcaster, Mana Leak)
UR Faeries/Delver (Blood Moon, Spellstutter Sprite, Delver of Secrets, V.Clique)
Splinter Twin (Exarch, Pestermite, Twin, Kiki)
Pyromancer Ascension Storm (Manamorphose, Ascension, Grapeshot, Seething Song)
Infect (Pendelhaven, Glistener Elf, Inkmoth Nexus, Blighted Agent)
Birthing Pod (Melira, Kitchen Finks, Acidic Slime, Murderous Redcap)
Burn (Goblin Guide, Lightning Bolt, Lava Spike)
And a bunch of fringe decks (Living End, Amulet Bloom, Lantern Control, Eggs, Tempered Steel Affinity, D&T, Soul Sisters, Tezzeret Control, Scapeshift, mono W aggro, 8Rack, Cruel Control, Reanimator Etc...) were all viable but not top tier.

Diverse set of archetypes, pre-FIRE garbage, and games that ran long enough that you could still pretend the game was about incremental advantage instead of trading haymakers and answers.
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anybody else surprised rosewater hasn't forced out a set designed around jewish folklore and judaism
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>>97643016
That would be a little too on the nose
https://youtu.be/4VTBMznLrWs
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>>97643000
Jund was literally just a pile of proto-FIRE garbage, memedernette.
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>>97643039
>Jund was literally just a pile of proto-FIRE garbage, memedernette.
The rise of Jund really was the beginning of the end of Magic. A deck like that being possible at all was a sign of the times.
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>>97643056
Yeah.
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>>97643058
What a good designer does, is sees "Goodstuff Slop: The Deck' exists and figures out the mistakes that happened to allow it, and never repeats them.
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>>97643063
*Prints Grief as the follow-up to Thoughtseize*
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>>97643016
There was Amonkhet which was based on Easter and Egypt.
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>>97643138
>*Prints Grief as the follow-up to Thoughtseize*
Honestly, Ephemerate should have cost Phyrexian Mana.
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ded gaem

ded thread

gg dotards.
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TMNT at my store had 12 and 8 people for pre release
Lorwyn was full (20) both nights
Spider man had 3 and 7
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>>97643276
i didnt go to prerelease. from what i heard, the store i usually go to had between 30 and 40 players for each of their events. they usually sell out at 100+
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>I go to prerelease, far from UB haters' jurisdiction. The pigs will not extradite one of their owns.
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>>97639259
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I'm probably gonna proxy new sets with the best artwork, maybe commander masters to play commander pickups
Do people ever set up fallout only games and such? Sounds like fun
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>>97643458
Yes, much less degenerate than yuri lmao
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>>97643702
No premarital sex.
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>>97643731
>>97643458
Why 3rd world is so obsessed with AI?
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>>97643743
>Why 3rd world
I don't know, ESLbro.
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>>97643746
Getting a bit lewd there
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>>97643746
You know damn well i brain freezed "is", pajeet.
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>>97643746
I think grok forgot what I was asking.
>>97643754
Sure thing, Pedro.
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>>97641308
Christ imagine being able to be narcissistic while being pig-ugly as shit where are these landwhales getting the confidence from?
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dead game, dead general
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If I'm using proxies should I have a rule that I use ten rares/25 uncommons/ etc to prevent myself from making an OP deck? would enforcing the amount of rares be a good balance idea?
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>>97644195
what do you need to balance for? if your opponent has a shit deck that's their problem
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>>97644195
Are you playing kitchen table or something? What's the point of proxying while also gimping yourself?
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>>97639308
cute
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>>97643990
Not as dead as mono white
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>>97644945
Skill issue.
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>>97639308
loss -tier shit "art"
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>>97645071
>random league day is representative of the actual meta
Do retarded kikes really?
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Oh hey look at all these white cards being played in Standa-
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/standard/full/all
Oops. Kinda hard for kikes to gaslight when actual facts are thrown in their noses.
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pre

modern
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>>97647371
>local store finally starts a premodern locals
>... NO PROXIES ALLOWED ...
bro we are a fucking poor country, one of the poorest in europe. They killed the format from the start the fucking retards it's unplayable
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