"There is no edition" edition>Previous Heresy:>>97626834>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:What teased/previewed models do you want released RIGHT NOW?
>>97646334Really looking forward to the Whirlwind. Always been a big fan of it, despite its many years of mediocre rules.
>>97646334>TQDo we have any teased/upcoming models that aren't the Custodes update or space marine tanks?
>no teased epic scale minis since decemberI sleep.Saturnine mins were pretty cool except the tiny embarrassing banner on the command squad
Plastic Armigers and Knight Destriers for AT/LI when?!
>>97646629Turbo cute kittar, now show me the embarrassing banner.
>>97646550So, non-retarded hairstyles for women just aren't a thing, then?I think 30k, being 40k's pre-history, could have women with 80s styles
>>97646334>>TQ gimmie that MLRS whirlwind tank thanks
When was your last game game anons? I was able to attend an event this wekeend and take the Mastadon for a spin with the now fully painted Iron Hands.It was soooo chonky and dropping that melta pie plate on peoples command squads and tanks was delcious.
:^}
Using a primaris helmet on my model BUT it's a head on a spike
>>97647274
>>97647132Last saturday. The battle ended a pyrrhic 15-15 draw.
>>97647132Your sicaran looks sick, any close up shots of it? I didn't see any on your insta.
>>97646791Literally some tattered banner, FORGE WORLD IS THE KING IN TATTERSanyway how am I supposed to put a cool design on this
>>97647132My last game was 2 weeks ago, fun relic hunt mission that was surprisingly close mostly due to me being retarded and refusing to put units on objectives until turn 3-4 for some reason. Here's Domitar Bukavac A-1, nearly winning me the game singlehandedly
>>97647310Excuse the poor focus it was my first time using the DLSR at an event and took me a while to dial it properly. >>97647274love a close game especially last turn >>97647329domitar love, what a chad
>>97647312Those little guys are way cute
I keep forgetting a couple skulls I need to finish the auils but otherwise super herald is ready for priming
>>97647380Hawt
>>97647413
>>97647132Holy kino, please tell me you got more pictures like this
Working on a squad of Despoilers.Yellow is in various stages of being layered up.Need to do his weapon, finish the black on his left shoulder, finish the yellow, do hazard stripes, do some clean up and then do a wash.I am liking how he's coming out so far.
>>97647788yes anon, yes I did. Not nearly enough but I got a few
>>97647788>>97647832The militia army I played against was literally peak 30k hobby and was legit a terror to play against.
>>97647852>The militia army I played against was literally peak 30k hobby and was legit a terror to play against.I saw the Visions imperial army attempt and knew this immediately, thanks for the pics
>>97647852>>97647901Militia player have an instagram page or anything? Would love to see more
>>97647901>>97647925Check out numbersnotnames on insta, he is off chops and a great dude. also another pic, protip the Iron Father survived the firestorm and proceeded to charge into close combat and spend a couple of turns murdering militia like Sauron in the LOTR opening with his thunderhammer.
>>97648050Amazing
>>97648162Cheers anon, the flesh is weak but the hobby vibes are keen.
>>97648310>actually gets to shoot a plane with the AA mountAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>97647312Lil cute guys with their hilariously oversized tonka truck axes ;__;
>>97647312>Ligma got official saturnine command squad modelsI'm more and more convinced Ligma is a thing purely because it's the pet project of a few members of the HH team and they are really, really into it.
>>97647132>dropping that melta pie plate on peoples command squads and tanks was delcious.I knew Mastodons had to be viable yeeee. You even fought vostroyan-like Imperial Army :O
>>97647139yjk
>>97647852What made militia a terror to fight? I thought their vehicles were third line garbage and whatnot
>>97648496Pretty clear the Forge World team like Epic since its been a major source for new 28mm models.I do hope you are right since it means AT and LI will be eating well for years to come.
>>97648050are those the new tiny legend models?
Did that rpg for Hh ever release?
>>97648536third line isnt bad when you can flood the board with cheap tankets and target saturation + movement blocking. The arty is mean as well + BS4 mass militia shooting really does add up and hurt. Pair that with disciple masters in line troops there are actually a pain to shift on mass unless you have lots of pie plates. I am really keen to make a Militia list with lots of tankette, calvalry and arty spam as soon as my WA kickstarter arrives.I 100% left the event knowing I need more pie plates in general as everyone arty was doing good work the whole time.
>>97648658Still no news it seems.
>>97648699Was his other provenance the Ld one?
>>97648700Sad!
>>97648699What was he proxying the tankettes as? the squat trike things?
>>97648699It warms the heart to hear Militia doing well.
>>97648745>>97648699What tankettes are you guys talking about? Cyclops demo vehicles?
>>97648745>>97648829Militia Scout rover from the fast attack slot and you take them in aux first strike detachments.
>>97646997Why does she wear the mask?
>>97649167Is that a tankette tho? Although if I made a datacard for it or stole a similar one from Titan Legions (I think it has a Spartan carrier) I could proxy a 6mm Bren Carrier Legimp Auxilia need a recce unit that isn't just a meh sentinel and more cute smol mechanised inf stuff.
>>97647812why does the nu-mkii have rings on his knees and the other junk on his leg side, are those straps?
>>97649244A Salamander rather
Might end up playing 1st ed Zone Mortalis. Could be fun!
>>97649244I have files for some small open topped salamander esk tiny carries, and have already done cargo 8 proxiies, Wargame Atlantic has really dragged it ass shipping to AUS
Could a Saturnine plasma bombard fit on a Leviathan?
>>97645791>Unironically, WS and UM wouldn't fight lmfao none of the traitor WS we know of ever interacted with the UM.Technically you're correct because we weren't given any names or specifics, but you are as wrong as that one fucker that says the EC didn't have Librarians.
>>97648535In one of the first HH novels they literally had a woman fuck a diseased pig before she was sacrificed
>>97649702Don't know about the difference in the mounting point, but size wise they don't look that off.
>>97648699What models did he use for the infantry?
If I’m reading the rules right, Veteran Tactical Squads are basically your option for Tactical Squads with more than just bolters?
>>97649810Nah, imo the Saturnine is stupidly big
Working on my first Despoiler squad. Will add a chaplain to them, but will call him Master of murders. He will wear an Esvaton power claw and will have a throphy dead Dark Angel on the base
And here is the photo
>>97649748I don't believe that happened lmfao
>>97649729>I'm a lorelet!We can tell.
>>97649317As fun as it is unbalanced, enjoy! Lean into the narrative side of ZM.
I know named characters are cringe but I've been playing this guy in legions and I kind of want to build a small force arpund him, he is very cool (i will make a generic option for people who don't want to play him)
>>97649946>I know named characters are cringeNot in Horus Heresy.
>>97649810its retard scale creep just like the saturnine termies, so bad
>>97649859Beautiful anon, the old marks hold up well.
>>97649748>>97649866Yeah it was in the second book, during the davinite lodge scene with Erebus?
>>97649859My only critique is how clean the legs look, should be some dirt dust or something
2nd edition Thallax are OP.
>>97650089I...genuinely have no memory of that, in the slightest.
>>97649946That sword is so fucking ugly
>>97649377Reminds me of the Gorgon.Also I realised making LI rules for a universal carrier would be pretty easy>Move 10" Save 5+ CAF 0 Morale 4+ W 1>Transport (1)>Heavy Stubber or Flamer. >+20 points to add 4x gun carriers instead of additional troop upgrades for Tercios and Velentarii.+5 to equip a HQ with 1x gun carrier.It would work better if it was restricted to a stripped back scout infantry formation with very limited optional units but I'm keeping it simple
>>97649946I thought it was cringe too, my friends are BL normgroids and I regularly face Abbadon, Sevatar, and Kharn. I'll get kino like a centurion or praetor stripping a wound off one of them and lasting a little longer in a challenge, even win sometimes. Recently picked up Corswain and there has been some challengekino, right now he is undefeated, still has to face off against Abbadon.
>>97650103Good for you, it was gross and now I remember the book name, False Gods.
>>97650279>>97649946It is cringe, it's marvelslop tier. Make your own OG praetor and kitbash him.But sometimes we must embrace the cringe.
>>97649859Hello Brothers!
>>97650355The guy on the right looks very sassy
>>97649729>rent freeLmao, still mad about being proven wrong.Nope, the EC didn't have proper librarians. Inferno is wrong just like it's wrong in other cases.
The Librarians of the Emperor's Children have few remaining functions as scribes. Other than making occasional notes of ''amusing'' and ''witty'' deaths they have witnessed. Their main duty is to provide psychic support to the physical struggles of their fellow Legionaries.''''There is also the immutable fact that the Emperor Himself was a psyker of unprecedented power, although the scale of His psychic might was such that He was beyond the perils of the Empyrean, and that He Himself had no doubt deliberately made the Thousand Sons what they were, at least in inception. Furthermore, and with greater discretion, Alpharius of the Alpha Legion, Fulgrim of the Emperor's Children and the Night Haunter- Curze himself was a potent psychic oracle by some accounts- all made active use of psykers within the ranks of their Legions, though perhaps with more reservation and less fanfare. These Primarchs had all supported a proposed scheme of structured training within the Space Marine Legions that would allow psychically talented Legionaries to employ their powers safely and in a directed and regimented manner-an initiative that would become known as the Librarius Project during the mid years of the Great Crusade.''''They spread out around Fulgrim, each weighing the enormity of what they were doing against the potential for wonder and fresh sensation. That they had managed to subdue a primarch was miracle enough, but to drive out a creature of the warp… Was such a thing even possible Lucius looked from face to face, understanding that no one gathered around the body of Fulgrim could answer that question. The Emperor’s Children had been a Legion reticent in employing Librarians. The genetic quirk that allowed a psyker to wield the power of the warp came about as a result of a genetic mutation, a flaw. And nothing that could be considered a flaw would be permitted within the ranks of Fulgrim’s Legion.''
>>97650292Quote the passage then, if you remember the book and the scene is real
I reeeeeeally want to play Night Lords in Mk3 armour with Tartaros Terminators and Castraferrum Dreadnoughts :(
>>97650531Why can't you?
>>97650558Here's 2 reasons why he can't.They don't use MK3 in Heresy, there's no known Casta Dread in the Night Lords so we've no way of knowing if they used them.>>97650531Don't.
>>97650531Then go ahead, there's nothing stopping you>>97650592>They don't use MK3 in HeresyGTFO you fucking tourist.
>>97650592Bait. Plenty of examples of caraphractii atramentar and mkIII armor being used. Hell, even the Thramas crusade excerpts posted by GW has them.
>>97650592>They don't use MK3 in HeresyI remember when i first got into Horus heresy and thought i knew it all.
What armour marks do alpha legion tend to use? I love their colour scheme and it's pretty quick to do with contrast paint over silver.(I don't say that to be lazy, I do get fairly autistic over fine details in mini painting, just I'm also a procrastinator so doing the main two colours fast is a bonus)
>>97650715Whatever helps them infiltrate obviously But they're probably most recognizably tied in the lore and models to mk4, mk6, and mk7
Every Legion used every mark of power armour.Emperor's Children had Librarians.Death Guard had jump pack assault troopers and jetbikes.White Scars had Dreadnoughts and heavy tanks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3bx0HlTMU
>>97650756ignore rules and text, the only true lore is colour plates.legions were actually only a couple dozen guys
>>97650715Any and all of the armour marks. The AL even had early Mk VI they developed themselves from stolen blueprints.
>>97650094Yes, I know and I plan to add something, just need to test it a little bit. Not sure if I will go with airbrush some paint, add pigment or just add some paint with a regular brush.
>>97650086Yep, I agree. In my army I only have old marks with the only exception of the new mk6 which I got with 2nd esition starter box. I can't bare all the same poses on the new marks.
>>97650476Not him but
>>97650756I can't take alchem flamers on destroyers anymore, can I?
>>97650715My inductii are mk2-3 and tacs are mk6 to subvert expectations
>Mk2/Mk3 were supposed to be the old, outdated clunkers that newbies get and MkVI the new hotness with the best tech>now it's the opposite, veterans wearing old tech and greenhorns wearing beaky armour
>>97650904It was never that straightforward>EC favored mk4, mk2/3 was a sign of disfavor, mk6 was mostly inductii>WE favored mk2/3 over others>DG favored mk3 over others>SoH had no preference
>>97650924I wish we collated all of these little factoids into a cohesive mass, call that shit the Codex Armoris
>>97650904I can see how veterans would prefer old style armour which they had fought in most of their life, beakie armour was still fairly rare until mid heresy and very specialized. The middle of the road would be the beloved mkIV.
>>97650924False SoH preferred mkIV which was the most advanced mark at the time and Horus used his influence as warmaster to make sure his legion got dibs.
>>97650904Even some of the old SM 40k codexes mentioned that some veterans preferred Mk II because of its higher degree of mobility. Though some level of wanting to stick with what they're used to is probably also a factor.It's never been as simple as a line of progressive improvement. Each armour pattern had its own strengths and weaknesses to some degree. And most have interchangeable parts as well.Mostly fresh recruits wearing the newest armour would be a natural result of logistics. It takes less time to equip recently trained inductii with the new armour and send them to the front lines, than it does to have veterans pull back from the front lines for re-supply and re-arming.
>>97650904It's logistically more expedient for shipments of new gear to go to new recruits than go and ship them to the field, have units hand out all of their old gear, go through that gear and make sure it's all in working order and complete (no missing parts or modifications that change how the suits work), then hand those suits to new guys. You also don't need to train all the vets with the new gear as training for the new gear would be part of the training the new recruits go through.
>>97650939Horus liked mk4 and ErebusSoH liked all armor as long as they could put spikes, topknots, and gang runes on it but HATED Erebus
>>97650940>And most have interchangeable parts as well.I've heard the complete opposite of this.
>>97650940>>97650904>Mk2 has higher degree of mobilityCompared to Mk3 maybe.Mk3 was a stop gap armor, and it was specifically deigned for zone mortalis conflicts to have thicker plates especially around the chest. If anything the best power armor of the HH was Mk4, Mk6 was specifically designed for recon and rapid deployment, it was technologically more advanced then Mk4 was but Mk4 was the shit that most everyone wanted.
>>97650558I'm working on Mechanicum for HH and Legio Vulpa titans for AT. I've no time (or money lol) for another project. Perhaps someday.>>97650592Fuck off immediately and never blight this threshold again bitch
>>97650771>The AL even had early Mk VI they developed themselves from stolen blueprints.Really?Kino
>>97650803Nta buuuuut that's nasty.
>>97650622Lmfao ok bud, I don't see any reference to them usually Castraferrum in that pic, but sure you totally showed me.
>>97650983>Compared to Mk3 maybe.According to 7e armour cards, with the MkIV (and subsequent suits) switching to solid plate construction with flexible joints (taken from MkIII), there was a slight decrease in mobility over the fully flexible MkII. Not much, but enough to note it in the fluff.>Mk3 was a stop gap armorTo what? Even in M41 it's still the best armoured of the marks. It's a specialist suit not designed as standard issue.>Mk6 was specifically designedAs the next step, taking as much of the advancements from MkIV as possible and combining them with the dual circuitry for easier field repairs with simpler parts. Effectively fixing the issues that the MkIV had with using so much advanced tech that it was harder to repair in the field.
>>97650980To be fair, even FW contradicted itself
>>97650803Nice
>>97651107>To what?Terminator armor i believe.
>>97651144But MkIII kept being used despite terminator armour existing. Terminators now even predate MkIII and even MkII.
So if the Heresy never happened would the Legions have just ended up being equipped with a mix of MkVI and MkVII (Or perhaps I should say MkV and MkVI since MkV is a post-heresy designation) within a few decades? Actually, would the MkVII been different if it wasn't rushed into service because of the Heresy or would the end result have been the same?
>>97651201If there was no heresy then legions would have been equipped with mk4 or whatever later true iterations had been made on it. There's a reason it's called maximus, it's the peak of mass produced astartes power armor. Everything that came after was an adaptation to wartime conditions and a lower quality environment, not qn improvement.
>>97651047>>97650592>there's no known Casta Dread in the Night Lordsanon...
>>97651201MkVI was the rushed version while the project was completed on Terra as the MkVII. Despite the difference in appearance and the helmet design, the two suits are nigh identical, which is why they both continued to serve till M41. I can imagine MkVII with some tweaks would've been the next standard suit. Probably with a clean breastplate (the aquila was a sort of flex on traitors at the time) and maybe with a different helmet design (the Sarum inspired one felt like something the put together in a hurry, though MkVIII also has a similar helmet design, so maybe it just was what they were going for anyway?) It's a fun thought experiment.I've also heard theories terminator suits would've been more common, maybe serving as the heavy assault suit while MkV(II) would've been the standard issue suit for everyone else.
>>97651238They were already working on the next iteration of power armour before the Heresy, since while the mk4 has all the bells and whistles, as the mk5 showed, the technology was not readily available across the legions and caused problems with logistics.
>>97650983MkIII wasn't stopgap armour, mkV was. MkIII was invented to fight squats in tunnels, it's literally just mkII with more front armour plates.
>>97651201If the heresy never happened and emps conquered everything legions would be nearly exclusively equipped with tartaros.
>>97650784Very nice, yes the same poses are very annoying.
>>97650775I just use very diluted paint and water, you can just do a test and see what works best for you.
>>97651263It having a model doesn't mean they used it.
>>97650803Gross
>>97651303no
>>97651324WHAT?!
>>97651344Yes.
>>97651271Its really just my headcanon for what would have happened if armour development continued organically but I like the idea of there being a "standard" armour, a "lighter" armour, and a "heavier" armour. An alt-MkVII then would be the standard armour, the MkVI or a variant thereof would be the lighter armour and a common issue amongst the more mobility focused legions, and maybe an alt-MkVIII incorporating more elements of the MkIII for the "heavier" armour.
>>97651361Anon, stop replying to painfully obvious bait.
>>97650803lol wicked
>>97651369if he doesn't reply then he won't get any replies to his bait
Word Bearers, Night Lords or Alpha Legion ZM force. Hard to choose...
>>97651438Word bearers
>>97646550just Black Book stuff for now I think, nothing in the pipelineAngroune is out and proud isn't he?most of the rumour engine stuff that's identifiably 40k ish for the last 6 months related to the Red Corsairs wave, today's is gnomes as a full playable AoS faction (gonna save the game), next week we might be due a HH tease, who knows? maybe we'll get Destrier rules alongside 40k, maybe we'll get a mission everybody can complain about
>>97651438WB if you're going Gal Vorbak for sure. Their Saturnine are cool too.
>>97651438Shattered Legions with all 3 (actually pretty decent)
>>97651438>>97651458>>97651496If you wanted to be real mean you could do a list of like 20 gal vorbak, 10 despoilers, and a mhara gal under a delegatus for ZM lol. Nowhere left to run, nowhere left to hide
>>97651542>mhara galhave fun with Signal Influx, that one can even fuck normal termies
>my midhammer tactical squad is technically rules legal, but would be incredibly anachronistic cause they’re painted as UltrasSo close…
The AL did not have a good time here
>>97651663>Spit-roasted by dreadnoughts Oof, can't slither their way out of that one.
>>97651663>fighting fatasses in the wide corridors instead of the narrow oneshmn
>>97650930>Codex ArmorisI might be severely illiterate but I'll try my best anon
>>97651271>theories terminator suitsI honestly don't remember where I heard this but, the terminator armor was supposed to become the standard armor, but this never happened because of the Heresy
Please anons, anyone with a scan of the Skitaari journal?
>>97651663>and they shall know one fear
I like Alpha Legion and want to read the "Council of Truth" story in Blood of the Emperor. However, it is written by Mike Brooks. How woke is it? Is it full of ender shit and typical Brook-isms?
>>97650355>>97650389
>>97650805No. I'm sorry. The only way to get them is from the Legion Pistols list, and Destroyers get theirs from an option on their datasheet, not from the Legion Pistols List u.u
>>97651663I think Lernean would've had a chance. I may be wrong, but I do believe it. +1 to wound, no?
>>97651772White dwarf 304 but it gets referenced by something else too.
>>97651863Lewdest hilt i've ever seen. He 100% date-raped Fulgrim with it, as the old lore suggests.
>>97651863>Want to play Alpha Legion>They're now Tranny-coded due to Shite Dooks writing Grim.Dark, even.
Just finished Praetorian of Dorn. Is Alpharius actually dead? His death seemed to be lacking all the fireworks a Primach's death is accompanied by and it doesn't really like a great end to his character tbhon
>>97652180You're a little late but welcome to the Imperial Fists wank era. Like Matt Ward Ultrasmurfs but even gayer.
>>97652180>is Alpharius actually dead?Yes.No. Maybe. Welcome to Alpha Legion.
>>97652258>Yes.>No. >Maybe.I don't knoooow
>>97652243>Rebel pilot helmetkek what a fag
>>97652180One of them is likely dead, the other one is likely alive since old lore had Gulliman be unsure. Maybe if the Scouring gets around to the event we’ll know for sure.
>>97652180Didn't the slain guy, I refuse to believe it's Alp/Ome, say something like "Brother..." before Dorn lopped his bonce off? Could have just been playing on his resemblance ro Alp/Ome
>>97652180It only has to have half the fanfare of a usual Primarch death because there's two of them.
>>97652243What's with people having to display spurious nonsense like it establishes them as some super nerd instead of a retard with no sense of value?
>>97650592Some anons really hate fun, huh?
I’m not sure if this has come up before, but I’d like some help with figuring out parts of the lore for Titan Legios, the Mechanicum, and the Questoris Knight Houses. Lemme explain. I’m currently hammering out a 30k/40k homebrew faction (TL;DR: the temporally displaced last few colonies of the United Nations that are basically the T’au, but humans, not ontologically evil, have no caste system, not racist as shit, and not governed by theocractic fascists). I’ve already gone ahead and paired them with a bunch of Blackshields from the III, IV, VIII, XV, XVII, and XX legions (again, long story shorter: these Blackshields saw what was happening with the Heresy and decided that, since nobody on either side wanted to swallow their pride and actually talk things out like fucking adults, the Blackshields would leave the Imperium and take as many civilians/stranded Auxila with them as possible, join with my homebrew faction, and pivot to civic duty instead of warfare), but I also want to add a Mechanicum faction (with attendant Titan Legio and Questoris house) to their side for extra flavor. My questions are thus:—Are there lore examples of Mechanicum factions basically becoming Blackshields? What about Titan Legios and Questoris Houses? —Am I overreaching by adding said Mechanicum faction? As to why I’m asking here instead of the homebrew general…well, I’d get a straighter answer by asking here rather than there.
>>97652951There are Titan Leigo Blackshields and Knight Blackshields (plus Freeblades but that's another thing) yes.
>Gonna be raining for four days straightI WANNA PAINT MY NEW MODELS NOT THESE GAY-ASS OLD MODELS I BOUGHT THREE WEEKS AGO
>>97652243what is his diOlect anyway?
I randomly came across this pic and jesus christ those tiny civilians didn't stand a chance
>>97653068elaborate for the benefit of everyone else in the class.
>>97653115>>97621985the automata is question is bigger than expected
>>97653141dang he big
>>97653141>too lightly armed Alright bligh who you think you're fooling those things were fucking terrorists bsck in 1st edition
>>97651931RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>97652467You can't possibly be so naive as to believe that. They had years at the head of a legion, even if you believed the line that they only came to it 25 years before the heresy, that's 25 years in which to simply clone themselves endlessly. Why wouldn't they? Who was going to stop them? There could be millions of the damn things out there. We know primarchs can be cloned, because it openly happens to at least two of them.
>>97652951iirc the forgeworld that supported the thousand sons basically went blackshield during the heresy and didn't really support a side. There are also examples of blackshield titan legios and knight houses - legio tritonis and their home forgeworld declared independence after the heresy started and fought both loyalists and traitors, and parts of house aethergn just became indiscriminant raiders, to name a few. For many mechanicum forge worlds integration into the imperium only happened a few centuries ago at most and many were thousands of years old, so it stands to reason they might just decide to return to operating independently and/or take advantage of the chaos to improve their position by expanding their influence.
>>97653060norf
>>97653068Are they the basis for Bloat Drones?
>>97654105No, that's crazy.
>>97652180At least either Alpharius or Omegon is dead. Depending on who you believe.
>>97649870no I'm just a dumb bitch who forgot to upload the relevant picture from the Book>>97650439You're a dumb bitch who refuses to look at material from the Black books are only goes off of BL slop
>>97653382>>97651931>>97653382they're available to Mortus Poisoners at an unbelievably low cost
>>976541058th edition death guard codex suggests blight/bloat drones are daemon engine versions of the vultarax, yes.
>>97654318Why would I want to give up panic?
>>97654318Guess those have a point existing now. Used to be a case of why ever take mortus poisoners when destroyers get you twice the alchem flamer templates.
>>97654351Panicked unit can regroup and turn around. Dead units stay dead.
>>97654375Neither flamers nor alchem are likely wiping a unit. The alchem will get more models but it's not going to be THAT dramatic.
>>97654350It's weird that while most Nurgle stuff is bloated versions of things, the drone is smaller than the non-Nurgle original.
>>97654351why would you give up panic? you can literally just give one or two guys flamers>>97654364yeah destroyers weren't really balanced, they just had shit basic guns to make them cost a lot with good loadoutsnone of the legacies units are balanced either but still
>>97653170I mean, it says they were too lightly armed to fight against Titans. How they were in first edition?
>>97650355>Nu-mkIII armour with nu-mkVI beakie head
>>97651863>Council of Troon
>>97654105Yes FW made the bloats first and later reverse engineered the vulturax from them.
>>97651772Makes no sense terminator armour is too bulky and slow for common use, regular power armour is much more flexible.
>>97651592what? post pic
>>97653392>Why wouldn't they?Nobody is more paranoid than a schemer. Would they dare trust a clone? Would they dare trust him with the task of engaging Dorn, especially? One could easily argue no. While Primarchs have been cloned as far as I know none of them have cloned themself.Also from a meta narrative perspective it's a great source of angst and potential character development for a twin to become an only child.
>>97652243Liking a legion is fine and it being your favourite, sucking GWs cock no matter what is not.
Spoils of War and The Flesh is Weak stack, right? SoW removes Vanguard/Line and TFiW says you cannot benefit from it. TFiW makes you automata and immune to Pinned so you can loot without consequences. SoW doesn't forbid scoring points and TFiW changes scoring to based on the amount of bodies in the squad instead of vanguard/line. I don't see why they wouldn't work together.I just have an idea of a renegade space force that invades Space Hulks to strip copper pipes out of them.
Two tac squads ready to be based, excuse the poor lighting.Squad Vorn
>>97655106And Squad Durso.Have another twenty tacs to paint to bring these both up to twenty man squads. What are you working on Anon?
>>97655109Impulse purchased the siege detachment box at my LGS so am now currently assembling that and the spare 20 Mark 3 bodies I had on a shelf
>>97655049Is liking primarchs fine?
>>97655127Sure.
>>97655221he's a big guy
which Primarchs explicitly didn't get unreasonably butthurt about the Council of Terra existing like half the traitors did?
>>97655027The argument was that for non Space Marine opponents terminator armour was very effective. But with the outbreak of the Heresy, it's Inflexibility became an issue.
>>97655027Go be wrong somewhere else.
What armour marks are these fellows wearing? Are they kosher for HH?
>>97655681They're basically unholy mix-and-match suits, just far more obvious and less blinged-up than 40k CSM. But the shape of those separate kneepads on the greaves with them is only something I've seen on Chaos Legionnaires specifically, maybe someone can correct me.>Are they kosherAt the very least remove all MkVII features. Would be best for Blackshields, but five in a box is pretty fucking rough.
>>97655681>kosherHello schlomo
>>97655765Wait do they not come in a 10 man box?
>>97655681top leftCSM/mkVI pauldronsunknown backpack probably VIarms VIright leg implied mkIII (can't tell without seeing the back)left leg implied mkVI (but could be III lacking the knee)mkVI bootstop rightmkIII backpackCSM pauldronsCSM/mkVII or mkVI armsimplied mkVII chest (concealed power cabling, no MkX boob armour)right thigh MkII or MkIII (old-style with the flanged rings)right greave implied MkIII "kneeless", which may be intended to be MkX when Chaos Primaris eventually hit, though it (again) lacks a knee or the characteristic flange or the saboton over the bootright foot MkIII (compare various DG/MkIII suits over the years)centreCSM/Anvillus backpackmkVII helmCSM pauldronsmkVII chestCSM/MkVI/VII armsMkIII bootiesMkIII left legMkVI right leglower rightMkVI or MKVII (interchangeable in 40k terms, may even be MkVIII) backpackone weirdly small CSM pauldron (possibly MkX stealth originally)one MkVI pauldronMkVI/VII armsMkVI chestMkIII legsMkVI bootsbottom rightMkIII packweird small pauldronMkIII pauldronMkIII chest, legs, feetMkVI/VII armsof all of them he's probably the easiest to reuse; depending on the back of his legs looking like MkIII, he would just be in MkIII, might make a nice NL squad leader or SH guy if you paint that skull gold and give him some normal pauldrons/arms
How are the rules for allies in HH?>wanted to get into HH some time ago, couldn't decide between Raven Guard (nobody around here plays that legion and I like them) and Solar Auxilia (nobody around here plays them at all) since I didn't want to start two full armies>since I couldn't decide at the time and some other expenses came up I shelved playing the game for a time>now that I have some cash again I thought of alliesBasically a mostly Solar Auxilia force and a small force of Raven Guard which I think would fit in with their post massacre fluff. Just a few snipers, jump pack guys, vigilator and maybe some terminators with lightning claws.
>>97655916there's no getting in each other's rides, joining units of a different faction is (almost always) a -1 penalty to Ld/in/wp/cl, faction-specific stuff is very clear (and can prevent you using psychic powers and cybertheurgy on allies as before)other than that it's much less restrictive, basically soup as long as your allies are no more than 50% of your points and have the right detachments (ie anything that doesn't have a slot in the Allied Detachment needs a Command choice to unlock its own section)
>>97655916They're not bad. My only complaint is that I feel like I can't get it quite the way I want list wise. I also cannot get a straight answer on whether or not unique characters can be taken in an allied detachment using special assignment. At my LGS, it seems to be so.
I wonder when Macrotek will allow outsiders to ride their transports. Mechanicum subfactions should also not cause -1 ld when attached to each other
