I’ve heard someone describing the setting of Rifts as being based on “putting together everything that would’ve sounded cool to a kid growing up in 1985.” It makes me wonder: what would a setting look like if it was created by throwing together everything that was cool to you as a kid?
>>97693228I grew up in the 90s. So everything that a kid growing up in the 80s would think is cool, plus pets with superpowers.
>>97693228>was cool to you as a kid?There are many different generations here so which one are you talking about? We got people from the 80s (grognards), 90s, 00s, even some 10s probably (underage b&). They all have different cultural touchstones, shows, comics, movies, etc. One thing I know is that any NuRifts for the youngest generation would include tons of anime & manga. Which Rifts and Palladium had for a long time before they became mainstream hype, ironically. Palladium Books with Robotech and Talsorian Games with Cyberpunk/BGC were the original weaboo RPG companies from the 80s. Also, there's a Rifts thread here, in case you didn't notice it: >>97687068
>>97693228>It makes me wonder: what would a setting look like if it was created by throwing together everything that was cool to you as a kid?Rifts.
Palladium Fantasy is the origin -- it's basically D&D with the serial numbers filed off by someone (Kevin) with an incomplete understanding if the rules in the first place. He then took everything that sounded cool and threw them in a blender, and out came Rifts. So many a.c.r.o.n.y.m.s. w.i.t.h. p.e.r.i.o.d.s., unnecessary repetitions of redundant information just to fill space, and a deathly allergy to presenting information in tables across all of Palladium's books make it painful to reference,
>>97693228This thread was recycled. Jesus. Is that all that anon is now? Just mindless reposts with anything breaking the mold reprimanded by jannies and social media managers? What the fuck.
>>97694459fuck off retard
>>97694441>So many a.c.r.o.n.y.m.s. w.i.t.h. p.e.r.i.o.d.sname three
>>97693228>what would a setting look like if it was created by throwing together everything that was cool to you as a kid?An incoherent mess, impossible to make a playable game out of. But that's what happens when you mix numerous series of varying power types and power levels without regards to each other, and that's always been one of the major issues D&D and its imitators have.
>>97695112>without regardsYeah it's called a "world". It's also in every single RPG where characters can advance unless the player characters are the only people like themselves in the world. The concept that because your world can have an aircraft carrier and a cheerleader that means that the two need to be able to fight fairly is really stupid.
>>97693228I was 9 years old in 1985.
>>97694819S.D.C., M.D.C., O.C.C., R.C.C., P.P.E.?This isn't even hard.
>>97695332HPACEXPDMPCCRAOEGPGet on my level scrub, Palladium even included crutch periods so you people wouldn't get confused.
>>97693228Idk what a mashup of Thunderbirds, 90's scifi games and Nazis would even begin to look like
>>97695112Skill issue.
>>97693228Pratchett-style parody of Narnia, Zamonia and the things only a fellow Pole would recognise: world from Pan Kleks books and Islands of Nonsense from Tytus, Romek & A'Tomek.
>>97694441It was the style at the time
>>97693228>Star Wars>Dragonball>Yu-Gi-Oh!>Pokemon>Warcraft>Grand Theft Auto>Rome/ Medieval Total War>Age of Empires/ Mythology/ Empire EarthIt would inevitably be some bizarro kitchen sink setting
>>97695303The concept that adventurers of the world venturing through the world can't fight the monsters of the world they're expected to fight is even more retarded than your false equivalency.The concept that magic is in literally everything except for some arbitrarily chosen options based off literature is also more retarded than your false equivalency.If prehistoric humans didn't win against tigers, we wouldn't exist. That is a fact of a coherent and internally consistent world.A mess of pop culture references is not a world, it is a cross fanfic.
>>97696890>A mess of pop culture referencessorry who did this? or was it just real in your mind?
>>97693228>what would a setting look like if it was created by throwing together everything that was cool to you as a kid?Rifts. Just sent my buddy a picture of a glitterboy the other day.
>>97694819Ok, so opening up the pdf of Rifts (UE), just in the TABLE OF CONTENTS, there are:• O.C.C.• P.P.E.• S.D.C.• M.D.C.• W.P.• M.D.• M.O.M.And that's -just- the four pages of the TOC.
>>97697695Only seven and none of them are even four words long, let alone five? That's hardly 80s enough. Come back to me when Rifts has more initialisms than D&D
>>97697596Gygax, when he and Arneson created D&D.
>>97697757Okay Darmok let me know how that didn't work out
>>97693228I was 8yo in 1985. Rifts was the first RPG I ever played as I found no one that played D&D. My big turn off for it was the dumb ass concept of mega damage.
>>97698003Mega damage gets better the older you get and the more you learn about being rad
>>97696238change star wars to lotr and gta to morrowind/oblivion and this is literally me
>>97698313sounds like any random anime honestly, just make it and sell some copies
>>97697804That depends on what you mean by "work out"; whether you're referring to its lack of internal consistency, or if you're just going to backpedal and say it "worked out" solely because of how much it's sold.
>>97699573what other metric of work out in this context can you possibly mean than "set the path forward for every single roleplaying game and secured and enduring legacy that lasts to this very day"
>>97695871Fuck, you reminded me of the time I had a dream about chibi Morats from Infinity singing the discipline song.
>>97697712>Come back to meWhy? You seem unpleasant and annoying.
>>97699709Don't be mad, every single rpg has a lot of abbreviations. Otherwise talking about them would take too long.
>>97697712That's nowhere near all of them, that's just I found just in the tale of contents, retard. My issue is that they could save -so much space- by omitting the periods in the acronyms (which -was- done in the Savage Worlds Rifts for that reason). • O.C.C. is in the book 446 times.• P.P.E. - 498 times.• S.D.C. - 458 times.• M.D.C. - 435 times.• W.P. - 297 times.• M.D. - 954; minus the occurrences of M.D.C. above, 519 times.• M.O.M. - by far the least, only 20 times.I also note you didn't even adress my other points about repeating information multiple times in the same book and the table allergy.
>>97700300>they used an abbreviation twenty thousand times after it was definedoh my goodness, call the cops>my other points about repeating information multiple times in the same bookwait didn't you just have a problem with abbreviations>the table allergyso you want those repeated a bunch as well?
>>97699667>wat u mean ??INTERNAL CONSISTENCY OF A FUNCTIONAL WORLDinstead ofFANFICTION GARBAGE.How hard is that to understand the popularity and sales of a product has NOTHING to do with its ACTUAL INTEGRITY, and that my points are addressing ITS INTEGRITY?You fucking sheep.
>>97694441Way to talk shit about a gaming godKevin is a bad ass and his writing and settings are amzing.Yes there is isp, mdc, ppe, sdc, hp...ect. But do you want him to type it out every time?Are you too retarded to mentally see hp and think hit points? Sdc is structural damage capacity, again your mind is to fucking weak to see that and think toughness points? Palladium Fantasy is a great syatem and even better setting, fuck your face
>>97700405>Are you too retarded to mentally see hp and think hit points?Not retarded enough to think et cetera is "ect".
>>97700420Wow you so burned me, im dying.You still avoided the question, how the fuck are you to retarded to see p.p.e. and not think magic points?Would Kevin writing "potential psychic energy" somehow make the stat block better? What game doesn't doesnt put AC for armor class? Or HP for hit points? How fucking retarded are you.
>>97700391lol seething, get a grip on something besides your penis
>>97700614>get a gripUnironically no you.I don't see how someone could supposedly read >>97695112, >>97696890, >>97697757, and >>97699573, and STILL not know I'm talking about how the aspects of the world of a supposed game should consider one another, due to the fact that [player options] are expected to conflict with [game challenges] at any point in any run of that game. The internal consistency of the subject, not fan reception; it was always about internal consistency, and never about fan reception.
>>97700996okay but I didn't read this post because I got really bored
>>97693228>everything cool in 1985>everything cool when you were a kidThose things are one and the same for me.
>>97701135And your concession is accepted.
>>97702965I wish I was alive for those days.
>>97701326The whole reply chain is a prime example of why I make my own games, because corporations can't be relied on to feature character options that can stand up to their "game's" challenges.
>>97703364Post pdf of your rules then.
>>97703386I have no obligation to do that, especially not for people who can and have moved the goalposts to "just play a video game lol".The fact that a person can move on from corporate slop is proof enough that nobody needs to rely on or support corporate slop. If you want to keep deflecting from that point, that says more about you than about me.
>>97703329nah I 'cept 'rs
>>97703495surely you support AI liberating all forms of media from corporate gatekeeping then
>>97703544AI itself is a corporate tool, being pushed by organizations that may or may not be based overseas as far as the Middle East.So no, I don't support it.
>>97703581>muh corporations bad>this tool a company invented that can liberate every form of media from the corporations and allow one man with a dream to do the work of 100 people is bad because of who invented itwhatever you say retard enjoy your graph paper
>>97703344Best way to summarize I think was it was the essence of not knowing. You didn't know what was popular until you went read about it, you would always find some new kind of toy at the toy stores, you never knew what movie was going to be a hit or a failure.
>>97703748He's a doomer. He just wants to wallow in is trash pile.
>>97704927fuck'empoor bastard doesn't realize his symphony is at his own fingertips despite all the shit chatjeetpt does to lie about facts
>>97693228Born in 91 so by kid you mean me between 6-12 or 12-18? Because there was a huge difference of what I would like. Before twelve I would like basically everything which is fantasy or science-fiction. As a teen I watched anime a lot so I would like crazy chuuni eclectic baroque-victorian shit. Like Ragna Crimson slop, yeah, probably perfect representation.
>>97703544If you needed a robot to somehow “unlock” your creative writing potential, then you were never creative, you were just a lazy piece of snot.
Complaints about balance are such bullshitThe gm's job is to say no when someone creates a god and the rest of players are running a spec-ops team or even the hobo with a shotgun. By that same token if the game is centered on a group of demigods and dragons its the gm's job to tell the city rat to kick rocks. Me and my homies in the hills with simie-auto rifles, and heavy gwot era plates are over matched to a bunch of no guns metro types, but if a platoon or delta squad comes for us we are equally as fucked.Its a universal system, why should a bunch of mortal soliders be a match for a balrog or 2? Learn the system better
>>97693228I'm shocked that nobody has made a 'Mighty Max' game. For Mattel, even an official one would be easier than actually bringing the toy line back, plus they could use it to renew trademarks. Rifts is fine but it captures the '80s mecha era, not the grungy '90s era which focused more on exploration and less on impossible tech.
>>97706116shut up moron I said the work of 100 people nobody needs 100 people to write
>>97693228Copyright infringement
>>97707896If you can’t even get one person to write the idea in the first place down, then it wasn’t worth writing to begin with
>>97708951you absolute fucking moron"one guy with an idea can use AI to produce media that would take 100 people to make" has absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote you imbecileyou open grave
>>97708966I’m saying an idea regurgitated by algorithm was pointless to make to begin with, regardless of number of personnel.
>>97709035lol idiot
>>97710528Yeah, you are kind of an idiot, lol
