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>>97696840I hate it. Too complicated, too long, eat up half the thread with cultivationslop questions and multiplayerfags kissing each others.
>>97696840Someone post the build list
>>97696840NEW Engineer build>In Modern Day>The Devil, Wheel of Fortune, The High PriestessSome nice perks. Affluence isn't a problem, I'm a Savant and I'll be working for the government. That's basically infinite money, don't need fate to guarantee it.>Educated, Well-Spoken, TrustworthyMakes it easier to fulfill my goals.>Dark Trailblazer (Savant)Still the GREATEST and STRONGEST pathway.>Beyonder Characteristic (S8-3, 8), Potion Ingredients (S8-5, 4), Charms and Amulets x2 (0)Now that I know it's coincidences with a lower case c I'm comfortable with taking more options. Charms and Amulets can be of the Sun and Twilight Giant pathways respectively. Helps to have purification and extra defense/offense when I'm still vulnerable.>Acting Method (Free), Potion Formula(S8-3, 11), Pathway Lore x3 (5), Mystical Languages (3), Beyonder Creatures (0)My advancement is secured with all of this, the main concern is acting.>Political Connections (24), Blessed (Knowledge Moor, 20), Partner (Isaac Seld, 10)Political Connections ensure my efforts to join the government pay off, after that I'm living on easy street. Knowledge Moor Blessed is obvious, gotta make a mystical connection as soon as possible. And Isaac is essential to my plans, especially since he shares a bit of Frank Lee's unorthodox mentality. I'd also like to take a good researcher (Mystery Pryer or Reader) partner but there's surprisingly few options. Can't afford Grier so I'll just find someone else on my on time.>No CoincidencesMiss me with that nonsense. That 1 point will have to go unused.>Eye for Wrongness, Mental Counteraction, Guiding Interest, Hand of DivinityGood talents. Savant as a pathway is based in Civilization so I'm going to have to work with people a lot, having Talents for doing so is important.(1/3)
>>97696852Amen to that, brother!
>>97696856The plan:Besides getting an in with the government, acting, and going around looking for my coincidences, I won't do much between S9 and S7. There just isn't much I can practically do that the government would be interested in from S9-S8 besides ritual magic, but Appraise as an ability would be extremely helpful for identifying... anything, really.The real plan starts at S6. By then I should hopefully have made contact with Isaac, he's the key to solving the biggest weakness Savants have: lack of materials. Beyonder Characteristics are limited in number and Sealed Artifacts always have drawbacks, you can't truly revolutionize civilization with just them, and getting sustainable sources of other mystical material is often impossible. But a Planter? They can bypass a Savants weakness by creating and optimizing new sources of materials instead of just finding and harvesting them in limited quantities.Crossbreeding is downright overpowered when paired with a Savant's Manufacturing. A Planter could make entirely new mystical creatures with useful innate powers that can be grown and harvested enmasse on scales unseen. Frank Lee already demonstrated this when he made those mushrooms that could grow by eating monster corpses AND purify themselves of the corruption anything else would gain from doing so. A Savant could hypothetically turn such mushrooms into mystical items that automatically purge their wielders of corruption, and do so on mass scale, enough to make low-to-mid level sources of corruption a complete non-issue even for regular mortals. And Planters aren't even limited to just creatures and plants, Crossbreeding can work on anything from structures to metals to crafted objects to ores and even spirits at Sequence 4. Living metal, natural spirituality batteries, devil kryptonite, any imaginable material with any imaginable magical effect can be in reach.(2/3)
>>97696865And whereas most Sealed Artifacts and Mystical Items are limited by their pathway's authorities and their possible combinations, Planters can make creatures with magical abilities that don't align them with any one pathway, like how unaligned Spirit World Creatures can have unique powers. The sky (and Isaac's sequence level) is the only limit on the things we could make together.Needless to say, our cooperation would massively empower any organization we work for. If we can create a sustainable population of harvestable plants or animals with innate Interference effects for example we can give large swathes of the military immunity to divination or intuition that's below a certain level. Spiritual Intuition is like the only big advantage low-mid Beyonders have over Modern Day militaries, without them it would be an absolute slaughter. Magical bullets, armor, charms, amulets, and other gadgets can become commonplace alongside technology. A true enlightenment of civilization. And armed with the massive influence being the orchestrator of all of this can net me, I'll demand the government hunts down my competitors for the sefirot and uniqueness. After all, at this point I'm an indispensable asset for the nation's continued prosperity and dominance. They'll listen.The throne of DoK is mine and mine alone.>but what about MGoD-City of Silver was fine after eating those mushrooms, no? It'll be fine, trust me.(3/3)
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>>97696852>kissing each othersDid you confuse this place for /mcyoag/ per chance? This thread's MP will be a bloodbath where miserable wretches who are also guardians will fight to the bitter end against foolish lunatics who are also Blessed of Great Old Ones.
>>97696852It's alright. Less overwhelming than Outer Reincarnation. I remember that. That one was brutal.
>>97696852>I hate X CYOA. It's too Y, too Z, eats up half the thread with Xslop questions and Yfags kissing each otherEvery thread at any point, forever.
>>97696935Name 2 cyoas
>>97696943pikachu cumslut and pikachu cumslut 2
>>97696935Ultimate God
>>97696840So outside of 'Modern', which is the most 'Normal Guy' Origin?
>>97696984Define 'normal guy'
>>97696840Dark Trailblazer kinda sucks. You are locked into only having 3 benefits at most, and only get the base point values because all the point gains are locked too. It also tells you to ignore itself, it says to ignore Status, Dark Trailblazer is a Status.
>>97696991Someone that lived a 'normal life' within the setting.
>>97697003semanticsDEITY...
>>97696984Mommy's Little Pogchamp
>>97696984Transmigrator, Reincarnator and (Fake Person) Possessor into a Non-Beyonder or a Seq 8 - 9 Official Beyonder is probably the most normal that you could be.
>>97696984As strange as it may sound it's Fake Person. All the others have you either transmigrate or be some kind of displaced freak, Fake Person is the only one with no tendency for any path and that makes you "normal". It's ultimate freedom other than modern, even more than modern since you can get more benefits.
>>97696853Only 'He' can post the build list. You have to wait
>>97696852This. Unfortunately it was Tankista's biggest CYOA yet. Incredibly demoralizing that it's been the only true OC from him in years.
>>97697019>TransmigratorThis I can kinda see as being normal with the right Status and Past. But Reincarnator isn't, you have a True God Seal by default, that shit ain't normal.
>>97697003Well the main advantage of dark trailblazer is that the world isn't ending in 2 decades and you have thousands of years instead
>be a deadbeat author with no new releases in over a year>enter thread with smug smile>make 10 posts about how I love [Insert Author(me haha)]>leave>repeat every day or so
I love Anon
I have a question about Outer Reincarnation. I know I'm late. Does being a Demon Lord make your demon powers stronger or is it just to make spawn?
>>97697005Mother's little reincarnator
>>97697068I just wish you could at least take Non-Beyonder with it.
>>97697027>Unfortunately it was Tankista's biggest CYOA yetBoth Fate Another Pretender and Outer Reincarnation (if you take extended pages into account) are bigger.
Now my blood will spill
>>97697080<3
>>97697086I think it's just to spawn majin
>>97697086You can pick your Letter. Having that sort of certainty means you're equipped to prepare stupid wordplay in the halls of black and gold. The most obvious trick is picking a certain Letter and carrying out its consequences, but you can always think of more things.
>>97697127Where is that said? I always thought the same as>>97697122
Choose one nigga
>>97697093That's just update bloat, steadily adding more pages as the years go on.It's not the same as releasing a massive CYOA day one.
>>97697139My lord ofcourseIf and when I am called for a noble cause
>>97697139That first + alone got meI shall fight for my lord
>>97697138After the first and second sentence in Daemonhost's description. You get to choose which Letter you're assigned to as a Majin.
>>97697173No you have control over which letter of the god script will be assigned to your creations
>>97696840>In the 5th Epoch:Celrog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97685926Warrior Angel https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97688599Ego Death Offer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694267Luckiest Bastard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97690702Clueless Mommy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692134Laurence Rubelle https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694187All-in-One https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694728>In Modern Day:Engineer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97696856The Omniscient https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97684811The Wizard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692389The Baleful https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97687096The Enlightener https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692424https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693124https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481GOO Servant https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696060https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666
>>97697207>>97693768?
>>97697201What exactly are you doing when you play Outer Reincarnation
>>97697217Recorded for next time. Reminder to reply to the cyoa.
>>97697229Last time I think I was making a old throne demon lord build but would've been off topic and never posted it
>>97697139>I am afraid I must beseech your aidYou have my sword
>>97697235AhI misclicked
>>97696840Best Outer Deity to hunt as DoK?
>>97697247Supernova Dominator and High Dimensional Overseer
>>97697255But you can safely accommodate only one more?
>>97697242This makes me wonder that while alot of people dont like being made to do things in cyoa's, how many would willingly do those same exact things if they were genuinely and maybe sincerely asked to do them instead, just a small change in how the mission or option is presented could have quite a wild change in peoples responses to it methinks
>>97697265I'm saying those two are the best options, not to aim for both
>>97697086No, demon powers and how strong they are fully dependent on your letter. You can however do the opposite and pick strong letter which boost Daemonhost similarly how Xian/Aat letter did.Tankista also mentioned that in the next update that he is going to include alternative gift available to non-daemonhost majins which would make them stronger.
>>97697139King who gives me lands.Well, I didn't manage to complete a build for lotm, my brain is too smooth. But I made a build here today still. That's something.
>>97697139I will fight for the king and politely decline his daughter's hand, and the rest of his rewards for that matter. To serve valiantly is its own reward.
>>97697299By that logic you could be valiantly serving his enemies just as well.
>>97697273No shit. For a lot of people it's a matter of principle. Even if someone asks you to do something that you were going to do anyway you still feel like not doing it anymore if they are an asshole. The same goes for a lot of antagonists, they have reasonable stances and maybe even better goals than you, but if they spend half the cyoa taunting you/Telling you how meaningless rebelling/interfereing is then it just makes you want to shut them up anyway.
>>97697312I don't know any of them personally and therefore I have no allegiance to them.
>>97697139Childhood Friend.If the king is unable to rule in peace I can't rely on him, no matter how much I respect him.
>>97697316U^U did nothing wrong
>>97697139The idea of any of them beseeching me to fight seems laughable to begin with. My liege, my hands are soft, my cute lithe body, untrained. I cannot fight for any of them.
>>97697207Knowledge Moor, more like Knowledge Whore given how much she spreads her blessings
>>97697368>my hands are soft, my cute lithe body, untrained
>>97697139Childhodd Friend, I won't break her heart.
>>97697379>more like Knowledge WhoreCuz it's tainted by the Brood Hive. It's also why you need to be from the bloodline of the Brood Hive to accommodate it, the Celestial Masters couldn't resist the planter pussy. It's probably not tainted in modern day, but it's funny to think about.
>>97697395This never fails to make me laugh out loud.
>>97697068Non-Beyonder with Judgment past pretty much gives the same benefits.
>>97697368>my hands are soft, my cute lithe body, untrainedPerfect material for Dark Elf.
>>97696840If you chart future advancements on the hystory section do you get to pick events or not?
>>97697139Warrior King.I ain't no simp.
>>97697427no
>>97697368Softie...
>>97697325>>97697398Zoophilia?
>>97697319Tribalism at it's finest.
>>97697446Nope. She's a person that can consent. It doesn't matter what she looks like.
>>97696856Pretty sure you over spent on knowledges.
>>97697446Eloping from the fight with childhood friend would be an appealing choice for me if not for the furry art desu
>>97697139It's got to be the Warrior King for me. Necromancy is a desecration of the dead and I never had any girl friends growing up, so that rabbit lady must be some subliminal horror jonesing for my soul. Besides, what right-minded man wouldn't want to ride into battle at the side of their liege?
>>97696856looking over it, your Potion Formula should cost 23 points and Pathway Lore should cost 14
>>97697457He should have bought individually, making potions effectively free
>>97697491>>97696072Tank banned doing that.
>>97696856This would be easier if you made a rentry with the book work, but:Modern day + Educated + well spoken = 28kPotion recipies:Paragon 8 (-0)Paragon 7 (-0)Paragon 6 (-1)Paragon 5 (-1)Paragon 4 (-2)Paragon 3 (-3)=-7Pathway lore x3 =-14Mystical languages =-2Beyonder creatures =-328-26You have dropped 2 points
>>97697526>Paragon 8 (-0)>Paragon 7 (-0)>Paragon 6 (-1)>Paragon 5 (-1)>Paragon 4 (-2)>Paragon 3 (-3)Wrong, they are only discounted once, together, not individually.
>>97696840No option to start in the 4/3 epoch?
>>97697536But it's multiple purchases, taking multiple slots?Surely when tank spoke of knowledge gap he was speaking about the choice to take multiple potions within an individual purchase of knowledge gap and not separate purchases?
>>97697139For my Lord, of course. I'm all for dommy mommy gf and such, but I've no interest in being a skelefag. As for the childhood friend option, maybe in another, fairer life. Loved I not Honour more, or some such.
>>97697551Tank said what he said specifically to rule against "separate" purchases.
>>97697551See: >>97696111>You pick Knowledge Gap to pick formulas of Visionary of Sequence 9, 8, and 5. The resulting total is 7 points, as it's missing the 2 points of Sequence 6 and 1 point of Sequence 7. Then you apply the discount of 2 Benefits in Visionary to make it cost only 5 points.
>>97697581He was ruling against counting the discount multiple times in one purchase, Which was something several anons believed in, I think>>97697585Yes, a single purchase of "Knowledge gap" Can include more then one formulaBut multiple purchases should be independant?
>>97697591> Yes, a single purchase of "Knowledge gap" Can include more then one formulaNo, what? Reread what he said.
>>97697601I have reread it
>>97697551>But it's multiple purchases, taking multiple slots?It only take one slot see >>97695952
>>97697601Not sure if he's right about the multiple purchases thing, but he's right about that
>>97697644Yes, that's the point I'm makingThat by "Expending" slots you can reapply the discountSeperating what was previously one purchase into many smaller oneThat is the point I am makingThat you can act differently from the norm
>>97697655....I'm rarted?
>>97697662Don't worry, you're not the first one to overlook a detail like that
When someone starts absorbing too many things, like a beyonder taking too many characteristics or a pillar trying to take on more sephirots and uniqueness, they go mad because of the convergence instinct, right?
>>97697687No, the original creator was madI think they're supposed to just be inherently contradictory roles and ideas
>>97697687Most of the time it'll be >>97697696 but even if you somehow avoid contradictory roles/ideas you'll eventually fall victim to the convergence instinct
>>97697702But what if I don't want to fall victim to the convergence instinct?
>>97697707Then don't absorb bits of god?
>>97697710But I want to absorb bits of god, I just don't want the convergence instinct.
>>97697139mommy
>>97697716>I want to stick my hand in the oven for that nice cooking smell, but I don't want burns.
>>97696840Anyone else waiting for an update, at least a minor one, to clear up some ambiguous mechanics? The discussion about formulas and the revelations on modern day made me hold back on building because I don't know what is right and what is different from what is stated.
>>97697774NoYou should probably just take a chance
>>97696865>picSelf-sabotaging PR.
>>97697398>>97697325KYS furrfags!
>>97697702My doubt was, considering that a Door can seal the convergence instinct couldn't it be used to inflate one's power further, as long as I limit myself to compatible roles and paths?
>>97696865>PicThat looks terribly inefficientWhy cycle living and dying meat pigs when you could just cause the cells to divide constantly like a cancer and then cut peices off a block of meat?You could set mechanical devices to circulate "Blood" and nutrients and avoid the waste of needing to regrow heart and organ meatAlso, the concept of the breeding variety is flawed, a good artificial womb should be able to take any zygote that enters it
>>97697806It might help as long as you don't exceed the level of a pillar
>>97697816Exceeding that level brings the convergence instinct to a level where the symbolism of sealing simply can't manage it anymore?
>>97697772Yeah, pretty much.
>>97697829Yep, maybe you can buy a little time, but pillar level is the highest level you can reach before it gets unmanageable
>>97697772
Italics bros are we going to be okay?
>>97697802I'm getting major Tok vibes from this post, which would be ironic, since he literally fucked a horse. That's at least 10,000,000x worse than being attracted to a cartoon animal person btw.
>>97697139>Marrying the crazy(bratty) princess is a "negative"Nah bro it's a double positive none of the other options can compete.
>>97697907real italics investors know to always keep holding
>>97697846That's actually normal for goats, they are flame resistant and use fires to rid themselves of tics and other parasites.
>>97697927your childhood friend could give you real actual love with a connection, you are a soulless being, the only downside is that she is some rabbit monster
>>97696840So I'm a little confused about the Pathway switching.For thematic/story reasons I'm wanting to start out as Planter but switch to Apothecary. They count as Neighbouring Pathways, right? And I assume that from Sequence 5 to 4 is the 'safe' time to switch?I'm about to go to bed but I know there's also a way to go back and pick up previous Sequences that you may have otherwise skipped, right?>>97697018>>97697019>>97697043>>97697021Thanks the the replies and insight. Gave me a bit to think about and a new perspective on some of the Origins.
>>97697946I am aware. It's a great gif though
>>97697940If you didn't TRUST when Magi Case released you were neber a TRVE Believer of Italics and Skeleton Pope. Just gotta HOLD until he releases those batches of delicious OC.
>>97697953She can work in my castle as a maid, she already knows how I like my food, but I will marry the princess and she will fall in love with me too.
>>97697956With excess imbuement you can go back but it makes it hard to become s0 because of lore. I thinkIt can also make you go insane
>>97697989>excess imbuementThanks!>also make you go insaneThat and everything else>hard to become s0From what I understand that's just my accepted fate on Apothecary anyway, isn't it?
>>97697956>They count as Neighbouring Pathways, right?Yes. The neighbouring paths should be the ones in the little chalkboard on the Pathways page.>And I assume that from Sequence 5 to 4 is the 'safe' time to switch?From what I understand it's from then onwards, so 4 to 3 and 3 to 2 should also be "safe". Essentially anything after you are considered High Sequence.> there's also a way to go back and pick up previous Sequences that you may have otherwise skipped, right?I think that counts as Excess Imbuement, which may cause problems unless you get rid of the excess later.
>>97697996>From what I understand that's just my accepted fate on Apothecary anyway, isn't it?Advancement ingenuity was added precisely so you can assume you'll come up with an alternative to that and other logistically impossible S0 rituals
>>97697996>From what I understand that's just my accepted fate on Apothecary anyway, isn't it?Other than modern day, which has all spots free, it's not completely impossible. The cyoa gives a solution to a lot of the problems people complain about, be it immunity to madness or other stuff. Look at the Talents specifically, most of what would be considered a sort of cheat is there.
>>97698031Switching from 5 to a neighbor's 4 is fine.
>>97698089I didn't say it wasn't. The cyoa says it's from then onwards, so it's not like you have to do it at 5 to 4 or you missed your chance, you can do it later too. Other than the LOM group where you have to wait until 3.
>>97697774I'm waiting for the potion ingredients limit to be increased to 6.
>>97697427You should, otherwise what's the point of that section?
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>>97697957Trvth Nvke...
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CYOAs for this feel?
>>97698504isekai rape monster
>>97698504African Warlord
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>>97697984Good luck with that given youre definitely not a rizzler(youre on 4chan after all) and the princess is insane, which, this is based binkie (the original creator of the choice and image) saying that so uhh yeah shes definitely not one of the mild crazies and unlikely to be the yandere kind of crazy, so the options are either: the enjoys torture and murder kind; the gibbering/screaming/laughing asylum kind; the religious fanatic cult kind
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>>97696840> OriginIn Modern Day> FatePast: The DevilPresent: The SunFuture: Hermit> BodyMaleEducatedRoughPresentable> StatusDark Trailblazer> PathwayHermit (9)> WealthSealed Artifacts x6 (Hanged Man 9: Secret Shrine, White Tower 8: Harsh Teacher, Hermit 9: Scholarly Message, Hermit 8: Smart Steel, Hermit 7: Staff of Terrors, Moon 9: Trial Package)Potion Ingredients x4 (Hermit 8, Hermit 7, Hermit 6, Hermit 5)Forbidden Literature x3 (Door)Hidden Realm> KnowledgePotion Formula x6 (Hermit 8-3)Pathway Lore x3Sealed KnowledgeActing MethodMystic Language x2Beyonder Creatures> InfluencePartner x6 (Hanged Man 9: Marie Etienne, White Tower 5: Mr Kott, Hermit 9: Adrienne Priestly, Hermit 8: Jordana Woodham, Black Emperor 9: Anise Durant, Mother 9: Lesley Meadows)Political ConnectionsGathering InvitationBlessed (Knowledge Moor)Tacit Agreement> TalentsEye For WrongnessRole Affinity (Hermit)Deep CogitationDownstream ProtectionApparently you can just take the pathway formulas seperately to get the discount multiple times, so I have a bunch more knowledge to spend. Now I get to actually know about the pathways and gods, and have an extra language which is nice. Plan is to do standard wizard stuff; sell my knowledge and mystical services to the government/gathering, act, study magic, the usual. In particularly I wanna mess around with the Staff, since that's the closest I can get to regular spell casting for now. Honestly would help if I knew what rituals can actually do, but whatever.
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Rolled 6 (1d7)>>97698538One of the top-10 of all time. Thank you for posting this. It has me nostalgic and it's been too long since I've made a build, so I'll roll for a minion specialty.
>>97698601Natural, eh? I'll get after it, give or take a few hours.
>>97696840Why are some formula prices pricier or cheaper than others at the same sequence? They should all be the same price.
>>97698619You know why.
>>97696813>hidden "yiff in hell furfag" line under the Mammal optionHow come reptilians are allowed to look like monsters, but whenever mammals looks like monsters it's considered furry? End racism.
>>97698471Reposting my build>Bitter GalciersPredictable problems, the path basic spells can keep me warm, clean, deter predator and grab coral from afar and make it unlikely to get lost.>Path of the ArcheomageVersatile, need no fuel and can get better while staying warm inside.>Vendor's Token and Warm HideoutSafe place to sleep, study and store stuffs, and a way to get various supplies, could buy items with spell hidden on them or recorded ones to study, can sell coral and later pearl.>Last of DragonkindNo a danger until the very end, plenty of time to find/make and cast a spell to turn his lair into a deep hole.
>>97698601>I'll roll for a minion specialty>Rolled 6: NaturalEnjoy petting and cuddling your Fenrir minions anon ;)
>>97698641Why?
>>97698662Reptilians are our friends, anon.
>>97698696z
>>97698641NTA but I wanna know too. Black Emperor formulas are way cheaper than Justiciar for no discernable reason
>>97698619Because they're not balanced? You're not seriously thinking actual suicidal sequences like secrets supplicant should be same cost as others right?
>>97698619>>97698641>>97698696>>97698756>White Tower formulas cost the most, followed by Hermit and ParagonTank thinks he's slick.
>>97698771Despite being the mc path that everyone extols as being op, Fool formulas are cheap as fuck by comparison to the others.
>>97698756>>97698712
>>97698778is it OP?
>>97698788Very.
>>97698792hOw?
>>97697139>so many anons are willing to be another dudes bitchPathetic. The only good one is childhood friend.
>>97698809You're not thinking clearly. The warrior king gives you a whole chunk of land for your services. Consider all the female anthros traipsing in those pastures and woodlands. Think at scale.
>>97698776Tank knows how powerful Knowledge is, why else would he price the two DoK pathways higher than even the Pillar pathways(aside from white tower)?
>>97698838>The warrior king gives you a whole chunk of land for your services.If you're not a pussy you take the land for yourself regardless. It never says who you are or why you're going to battle. Stop asking for conquest, you aren't cut out for it.
>>97696840If you take Independednt Node you can have the regular Error progression without Amon interference right?
>>97698867Yes
>>97698876Is it worth it?
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>>97698809Service to a virtuous cause is it's own reward.
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>>97698883Not really, he's still the uniqueness and has the sequence 1 characteristicsYou'd have to switch anyway or get parasitized
>>97698867Actually, modern day also gets normal progression. There is no Amon there.
>>97697247If you want to lean into your symbolism as Arcana of Madness, Inextinguishable Ravings. Not many beings can counter the Ravings alone, and it also comes with things like the Philosophy Pathway having the symbolisms of Culture and Ideology (which should already be subordinate to Civilization if you ask me but whatever).If you want to lean into your symbolism of Cosmological Constants, Supernova Dominator. His symbolism of Fundamental Forces is a really good addition, your control of Reality's laws and properties would be rivalled only by The Anarchy and Mother Goddess of Depravity.If you want to lean into your symbolism as Demon of Knowledge, High-Dimensional Overseer. I don't know what the Truth symbolism does that whatever symbolism the Analysis and Mystery Prying authorities are derived from doesn't, but having them all should make you literally impossible to deceive or mislead. But that plus control over Fantasy and Dimensionality could prove a very powerful combo.
>>97696840How long does advancing normally take anyway?
>>97698809>All relations are those of dominance and submissionNo wonder you fuck dogs
>>97698944Months to yearshttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/93633754/#q93637629
>>97698953That's just the base digestion, not including finding and making the potions
Honestly I find pretty sad how it's effectively worthless to branch out, wich is a mechanic wich would interest me a lot, as you have to drop everything outside when reaching sequence 0. This was the reason I really liked nascent outer deity, until I understood you don't get the powers of the potions you use.
>>97696840>lord of mysteries >lord of CHINKsteries>CHINK of CHINKsteries>CHINK of CHINKCHINK>CHINK CHINK CHINKCHINK
Entropist is the best cyoa ever made
>>97698944You can get a pretty good idea by looking at all the events that age you in past hystory. That's about how long it would take by playing it safe.
>>97698563She sounds peak?I don't see the problem here besides to be offered such a reward at all implies I'm a gigachad in universe.
>>97698563>the enjoys torture and murder kindFix this Bathory wannabe with your cock
>>97699009That fits with church beyondersAs long as you take the acting method perk or join the tarot club while avoiding joining any other oragnization you should progress faster(not accounting for finding formulas or ingredients)
>>97698948Lmao based
>>97696840So I've been reading on this setting's wiki to help with my build. I read that the MC woke up in June 1349 and then stopped the Apocalypse in June 1360 as LoM.If going up your Pathway takes centuries or even millennia to complete, how the fuck did he go from Non-Beyonder to GOO in 11 years? Is it possible to have the same progression too?
>>97699101He was being groomed
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>>97699101>If going up your Pathway takes centuries or even millennia to completeIt doesn't. Read more.
>>97699101What the other anon said, he was being groomed by a dead Pillar into a resurrection vessel.
>>97699101>If going up your Pathway takes centuries or even millennia to completeThat's if you don't know about the acting method and can't find the ingredients/formulas/characteristics you need to advanceThe second one tends to be the biggest problem for late sequences
>>97699111NTA but for some it clearly does since we still have Sequence 2s and 1s lying around from previous Epochs. True Gods too.
>>97698948>submits to other menI'd rather fuck a dog than get fucked by another dude.
>>97699132It doesn't. They got stuck or are incompetent.
>>97699105>>97699124So maxxing coincidences is the true way forward?
>>97699111>It doesn't.Explain why angels and demigods don't get an opportunity to advance for centuries or millennia despite convergence. Katarina remained a demigod from the end of the Fourth Epoch to when Klein assassinated the Emperor.
>>97699143And you're different?
>>97697207yeahbox send my ass to the Forsaken lands
>>97699145If you have a death wish, yes.
>>97699132The true gods literally can't advance because CW(the original LOTM) sealed their other Sefirot's away so they'd need to groom a LOTM into existenceAlso the OC's mental will was stronger back then so digesting was harder and advancing riskier
>>97698966You "branch out" with items.
>>97699158Things are going to be even harder when anons inevitably reinvigorate the wills of CW, GA, and OC.>we wouldn't do thatWe already have a GOO cultist build in Modern Day, anons will ruin everything for fun.
>>97699176I considered it, but between the crippling flaws and ridiculous costs it's a pretty bad situation.
it's simple, you're either a coward and get stuck in your sequence or you are based and just start trusting that you are correct and begin chugging potions
>>97699035Combat skill wise maybe but unlikely to be bed or communication wise kek
>>97699101He had ALOT of plot armour and assistance. Legit sponsored by mommy Evernight and tacit understanding + assistance from 6 additional gods. This isn't even mentioning the boatload of Angels, the entire spirit world or Sefirah castle. He even had assistance from the 10 GOO (who were more scared of Amon than him) and a dead Pillar. If nepotism had a picture than Klein would be it.
>>97699039Its doubtful your cock is good enough for that kek
>>97699178>GOO cultist buildDude is gonna lose control and kill himself soon.
>>97699138>I would rather fuck have no political power living like a peasant serf and fuck a rabbit monster than gain political influence with the royal family and an opportunity to inherit the throne by marrying the most beautiful woman in all the land because it's gay to distinguish yourself serving the king that you are doing anyways if you marry the monster.
>>97699178>GOO cultistSeriously tempted to make a build specifically to kill this autist. Only thing I'm unsure about is how dangerous 5x sequence 3 rampagers are? Surely modern military can deal with them right?
>>97697139Go back, furfag.>>97698948Destroyed that zoophile freak.
>>97699220He's a shining example to all coincidence maxxers, I'm surprised Sephira Castle Transmigrator gives less Coincidences than Chaos Sea Flotsam but I guess Klein took most of it
>>97699231But will he lose control and die before he gives MGoD and others a way to influence the inside of the barrier millennia earlier than they should? From the perspective of the ODs he's an invaluable pawn right now, they're going to do what they can to keep him alive. If other cults start sprouting up thanks to him things are going to get dicey real quick.
>>97699218>You will marry the animal and you will be happy.Miss me with that HMOFA propaganda.I'll rather take my chances with the peak human princess.
Cataclysmic Cultivation won btw
>>97699248>Surely modern military can deal with them right?Maybe? If they're from the wrong pathway then they might be able to tank almost anything they can dish out, but the the most dangerous part about them is that they're probably excellent carriers for corruption no one will have the power to cleanse for years/decades/centuries
>>97699248He shouldn't have those characteristics for a while since everything is filtering in slowly. By then modern military's (if they still exist) would be aware of beyonder threats and could kill the rampagers, but not before they cause mass destruction and corruption. Unless they have diviners on their side feeding them information, Seq 4 Prophets could foretell the appearance of the rampagers. In which case rampagers are dealt with easily.
>>97699234That guy is a retard, but you really need to keep it briefAnd not try to make points in quotesAnd get a better grasp on english
>beyondercucks have to go hunting for their characteristics and ingredients and do their gay little rituals and acting or their useless and cant advance>boonchads only need to pray for immediate powerwhen are you taking the boon pill anon?
>>97699330When the outer gods will stop jobbing
>>97699108Where did you get this picture of matterfag?
>>97699330The difference between being a beyonder and relying on boons is the difference between owning and rentingBtw, in this system, if you're renting you only have as many rights as the owner feels like giving you
>>97699400>im way weaker than you but at least my power is my own-ACK!last words of a sequence 8 beyondercuck after being killed and eaten by a chefchad
>>97696840>>97697207My build was ignores last thread, which is fine. I rebuilt it and made it less horrific to read.I am the Eyes that Bind, and I do not create. I maintain, and all shall be contained. My body is countless locks, linked together in a massive chain. I have no desire to be a god, but have bartered for my momentary place. I have strength beyond strength and a vision to encompass the world, but I will fail. The world will come undone. But I will hold it together as long as I can. Create your builds while the world still lives.>ORIGIN Evil SpiritBenefits Totals: 3 Abyss, 4 Black Emperor, 3 Chained, 5 Darkness, 5 Death, 4 Demoness, 3 Door, 3 Error, 3 Fool, 4 Hanged Man, 3 Hermit, 4 Justicar, 3 Moon, 4 Mother, 3 Paragon, 6 Sun, 4 Red Priest, 9 Twilight Giant, 3 Tyrant, 9 Visionary, 3 Wheel of Fortune, 3 White tower>FATE >The Past Judgement>The Present Empress>The Future Justice>BODY >Gender Female [Empress Present]>Traits Strong, Young, Innocent>STATUS Noble Descendant, Wild Beyonder>REGION Forsaken Lands of the Gods>SECRET ORGANISATION Your Own [Order of the Chained Sun]>Noble FamilyAncient God Descendant (Visionary, Twilight Giant)>PathwayTwilight Giant into Visionary/Spectator at 4th sequence>Age: 57/2=33.5 Year Old>Sequence, 13 Convergence Events (9+4)9th Warrior [Skip] Fortuitous Encounter8th Pugilist [Skip] Mundane Acting,, [CE] Bounty Hunter [CE] Supernatural Investigator, [CE] Gathering Attendee, [CE] United in Blood7th Weapon Master [Skip] Slow and Steady, Dark Ritual Witness, [CE] Wanted, [CE] Hero Bandit, [CE] Gathering Covener6th Dawn Paladin [Skip] Mysticism Notebook, Tomb Raider, [CE] Clandestine Nemesis, [CE] Experienced Veteran5th Guardian [Skip] Card of Blasphemy, Common Adversity, [CE] Assassin and Bodyguard, [CE] Legend in the back, [CE] Ravages of Time4th Manipulator [Past] Forbidden Lore, Public Menace, [CE] Ancient Treasure3rd Dream Weaver [Past] Old Horror
>>97699316I didn't want to put too much effort into the post.
>>97699426Weird I thought I was hearing a bunch of outer gods crying at the thought of the fourth pillar
>>97699439Part 2/22nd Discerner [Angel] Myth of the Second Epoch>MadnessEvil Spirit: HungerSequence 4 Past: three low madness // Removed by Strong, Mundane acting, and Fortuitous EncounterPath Switch from Twilight Hammer to Visionary: Three Low Madness // Removed by Slow and Steady, Experienced Veteran, and Ravages of TimeSequence 3 past: Mad Flesh // Removed by Fragile Balance>PERKS >Wealth 30 Total, Spent 30Affluence 2 (-9) Test of Strength (-11)Worthy Ring (-4)Dark Reflection (-5)Inventor's Log(-1)>Knowledge 30 Total, Spent 30Sequence 5 Twilight Giant Potions (-3)Sequence 3 Visionary Potions (-11)King of Angels (-6)Beyonder Creatures (-3)Acting Method (-5)Mystical Rituals (-2)>Influence 36 Total, Spent 36Most Secret Organization (-5)Tacit Agreement (-8)Julius Sudworth (-19)Pick up Ewart Randall, Demetria Zaratul, and Luther Grover for free>Coincidences 20 Total, Spent 20Fragile Balance (-2)Noble Descendent (-4)Infiltration [Twilight Hermit Order] (-2) Infiltration [Eternal Blazing Sun] (-2) Infiltration [City of Silver] (-2) Infiltration [Church of God of Combat] (-2)Angel (Free from Old Horror)Uniqueness(-6)>TALENTSNote: Legend in the back and Judgement both reduce the benefit requirements for all talents by 1.INDEPENDENT NODE - A chain made of interlinking locks, infinitely spiralling together in a mass.HUMAN HEART - May I never forget why I do this.HAND OF DIVINITY - That I may do this as long as possible.ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD - Hold the world together for as long as I can. The goal is to continue to ascend sequences until I can chain the metaphorical sun, to try to hold back this epoch's midnight.
>>97699443It was too long?
>>97699439CoolVery noble
>>97699453Wouldn't blessed be really useful for a twilight giant?
>>97699454There is a fine art to it, newfag
>>97699476Ok, newerfag
>>97699472Yes! I had originally had it, but I wanted to afford a high sequence ally and the sequence 3 visionary gave me the push to read through all of the other slate's allies.
>>97699234>anon cannot grasp the concept of conqueringNo wonder you want to get dominated by other dudes.
If I'm a nascent outer deity is there any reason I shouldn't aim to get key of light to speedrun my great old one-hood?
>>97696840So Pathways with less adjacent Pathways (like Mother for example) are inherently worse than ones with a ton of adjacent Pathways like White Tower, right? Since the first one can only potentially combine the powers of two (assuming you're not like the MGOD and can integrate Demoness and Death or Darkness without problems in theory because of concept overlap) and the later combines the power of five.
>>97699454True, because it's a first draft, you have to put more effort to paraphrase what you are trying to say to make it punchier.>>97699532In both scenarios you fight for someone else lol.The only difference is that in one scenario you go back as soon as possible to your beast while on the other you distinguish yourself enough to be noticed by the king.Besides it's way easier to conquer once you have actual political leverange as landed nobility with ties to the crown instead of being an ex soldier serf with a subhuman wife.
>>97699583So long as you can tank the madness, you can sequence to any other. It's actually stronger in lore iirc, since you're creating something new out of disparate powers.Also forgot the pic in my 2nd post for eyes that bind.
>>97699583Nah. In terms of power there isn't much difference between a dual pathway god of Mother and Moon versus a multi pathway god of White Tower, Sun, Visionary, Tyrant, and Hanged Man. Dual and above pathway gods are always stronger than single pathway gods but power levels remain the same until sefirot and their symbolisms get involved. Above that at quasi, semi, half and full GOO levels what matters isn't number of pathways but the symbolisms of those pathways. LOM will always be of equal strength to GA despite having fewer pathways
>>97699583As long as you aim to True Godhood exiting from your main path is almost always something you will regret, unless you're a red priest/demoness.
>>97699583No.https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Gods#Multi-Pathway_True_Gods>if one becomes a Multi-Pathway True God of all Pathways under the Above the Sequence group, "They" will be able to manifest the symbolism and powers of "Their" Sefirah through such combinations.>For example, a True God over the three Lord of Mysteries Pathways would be on the same level as a True God over the five God Almighty Pathways.
>>97699630>>97699644>>97699646>>97699653Doesn't this mean aiming for GA is strictly worse than aiming for LOTM? You need to do more work for the same power.
>>97699599>in one scenario you conquer and get a kemono wife and in the other you get cucked by another manWhat a hard choice. If you're going to advocate being a bitch this hard at least go for the mommy dom to be a straight femboy instead of a gay one.
>>97699672There are nine sequences to go through, regardless. The big difference is the path switching.
>>97699577Not more than any other sefirot>>97699672I'm not an expert but god almighty seems like it's a bit more flexible and harder to counter
>>97699747A question, is Chris cucking Leon because Chris desperately wants him to impregnate his sister?
>>97699672GA is way stronger earlier on. They have access to Shepherd + Polymath combo as an example. Honestly Shepherd by itself is enough to hard carry GA.
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>>97697207>>97696840>All these builds with Blessed In Modern Day.Ugh, bros, I feel like the scenario is doomed.
>>97699970None of the sefirah have consciousness yet according to Tankista. Should be fine?
>>97699998Maybe it is true by default, but the option specifically talks about their own will...
>>97699970>>97700005According to >>97692422, they're gonna awaken a little once s4+ things shows up. Since it is inevitable, you might as well maximize the benefit.
>>97700014Appear, not awaken, it's absolutely not the same.
>>97700025>both asleep and don't have any actual wills driving themThey're a non issue right now. Honestly I'm not sure if Blessed In Modern Day would even do anything until they show up unless you also take it with Orthodox Integration.
If cultists capture a blessed anon they can use them as a springboard to corrupt the sefira. You're all fucked in ways you can't even imagine
>>97700044>Implying we'd lose
>>97700044Nah, it's not the same as Sefirot option. Blessed means you are a servant, not a master.
>>97700064In such chaotic times, who's to say a servant can't become a master?
>>97700081True nature of fate is chaos, all sorts of bullshit outcomes are possible. Does this mean that you're going to eat shit and expect it to taste heavenly?
>>97700096>you're going to eat shit What pathway/sequence?
>>97700096>Low Madness: Hunger for Shit
>>97700044Theres only a single cultist and he has 5 madness with no combat abilities or artifacts. Theres multiple blessed anons. Do you seriously think he'd win?
What do cultists get besides powers in return for their cultism toward ontologically evil elder gods? It seems like they're speedrunning insanity, corruption, and misery for everybody involved.
>>97700096>eat shit and expect it to taste heavenlyEntropist pathway...
>>97700112Nta but wouldn't the outer gods empower non anon cultists?
>>97700117Cultists are all giga corrupted and insane puppets already, so they don't really need a reason.
>>97700112>read cultists build>blessed of MGoDHe could get boons later on, but he didnt take Orthodox Integration for some reason. If he wanted to infiltrate a government and cause corruption he should have went with HDO over MGOD tbdesu, Painter is crazy good for corruption and indoctrination on large scales
>>97700117A small chance of surviving the Apocalypse if they aren't confident in their worlds gods. Even beyond that, people do dumb shit all the time, like random Americans deciding to shack up with ISIS
>>97697207No one else went for God Almighty. Did the Omniscient scare you that much?
>>97700141>name is God Almighty, the Omnscient and Omnipotent>isn't actually almighty, omniscient, or omnipotentThey avoided the obvious jobber goo
>>97700154...anon...you're retarded...
>>97700169>God Almighty, Lord of the Astral World>Lord of Mysteries can use astral world symbols better than he canHe's the biggest fraud in LOM. Only useful thing he ever did was make the chaotic head.
>>97700109Mattersaar: Indulgence
>everyone plays LOTM>my autism prevents me from building until I'm caught up to LOTM + COIPain.
>>97700141There's also only one guy who is in a LOM path, and he doesn't even say he wants to be the LOM. I thought we would have pvp In Modern Day, but it's pretty peaceful so far, barring the cultist.
>>97700203Anons are peacepilled at heart. Love won
https://youtu.be/ltVX6vYKOcQ?si=XfD0qBCfn22uq_JpCYOAs for this feel?
>>97700154Are you the same guy who keeps complaining about ultimate god?
>>97700141I've already started working against him. You can see it even in this very thread. As for the actual build, it is still waiting its hour. I can't expect to win against April Fool of PGA with a shopping list.
I am angry. ANGRY ABOUT WEEBS.
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>>97700246cheebs*
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>>97700261>>97700257Japan. China. Korea. All the same thing really.
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>>97700196Just pick Modern Day and ask anons things.
>>97696827Perpetual, Shifter, Companion.I'd give myself a gigachad body then move to the beach with my immortal waifu.
>>97698538yeah, fuck it>Fumoria, demon lord of egress>MUTATIONS: fangs, horns, demonic featuresfangs are by far the best mutation>STATS:>attack: 12/12>special: 12/12>combat: 12/12>move: 8/12 >health: 6/12>tough: 6/12>resist: 6/12I have minions who can revive and even without them I can revive from my core eventually so a glass canon build is not the worst plan.>DPU: automaticleast troublesome generation and since the quantity doesn't fluctuate it is easier to plan ahead which minions I will be summoning next and when.>ABILITIES:>elemental magicspecial stat is kind of useless without this>teleportationsuper useful in and out of combat >scryingcombos well with teleport as I can only teleport to where I have seen>magic eyethe most useful ability in the section>unique trait (silver tongue-familiar)this might seem dumb but learning any language with minimal exposure is a massive cheat for making allies and gathering enemy information>unique trait (web-arachne)these scale with special so I wonder if I can make super durable armor/clothing with these>unique trait (control senses-automaton)let's be honest, none of us have the pain tolerance of a shonen protagonist, also since this explicitly gives me complete control over my nervous system I wonder if I can do something like accelerating for faster reflexes>unique trait (healing hands-fallen angel)as a demon lord it is unlikely I will be fighting alone so a convenient cure all will be great to keep my allies in the fight.
>>97700493>AFFINITY: demonic>MINIONS:>slimekind of versatile but mostly want them to clean up my territory>familiar>automaton>arachne>hellhound>witchesa shame there is such a long charge time for their portals but they will still be useful, I could even use fangs to get their portal, scry distant places and then open the portals myself.>gargoyleminions who can see through illusions/shapeshifters to prevent most infiltrations>elven druidperfect to feed my army, growing ingredients for potions and just to keep my territory pretty>fallen angel>balrogI think I have decent variety in utility, fighting and flying minions, maybe a bit short on those that can breathe underwater but this is good enough.>GUARDIAN: seraphinavery strong stats, very strong skill, has information on gods and doesn't hate humans>CORE UPGRADES: practice arena, custom minions, territory enhancement, incarnation circle>TRAPS: tentacle trap, gas trap, teleporter, false demon coremostly the non-lethal traps, I can leave the killing to my minions if necessary, and the teleporter might actually just be used as a method of transport within my territory rather than a trap>SERVANTS: dwarven craftsman, alruane apothecary, danuki merchant, demon scholar, spirit enchanter {-2 debt point}a bit lame that I end up with 40 years of wasted energy but I do think servants give my army a big power boost through good quality equipment.>DRAWBACKS: lmao, no.>WORLD: polarisby egress I mean egressing whatever bs war the gods and demon lords cooked up, I even bet not even half of them know why or when this whole thing started.So I'm just going to lay low, maybe try to make friends with the nearby villages or cities once I have enough minions to defend myself and enjoy my eternity in the multiverse by NOT joining someone else's eternal war.
>female buildsmite this tranny NOW
>>97696840Despite being an "evil" path Demoness has a lot of appealing companions. They are all either traumatized, secretly a spy, a fake, or even literally a waifu. Anyway they don't really seem to want to advance or be evil, some probably want switch path instead.Speaking of companions, and other things, do the free things you get from other places count against your limit for Partners and other things? Like if I get the marriage partner or the Lovers Past bonus partner do those count as one of my 6 or are they on top of that?
>>97700515You've clearly been charmed. Demonesses are to be killed on sight.
>>97700560Demonesses are to be aided in digesting their seq 6 actually
>>97696840>OriginFake Person>FatePast - The Hanged ManPresent - The High PriestessFuture - The World>BodyMale -> FemaleStrong, Trustworthy, Educated>StatusWild Beyonder + Noble Descent>LocationForsaken Land of the Gods>Secret OrganizationsTwilight Hermit OrderInfiltrated: Life School of Thought, Rose School of Thought, Church of the Earth Mother>Noble FamilyAncient God Descendant+2 Moon, +1Red Priest>PathwayChaos Primogenitor -> Moon>Special AdvancementBoon Recipient - Brood Hive>Personal History>Sequence 9VillainImaginary Soul>Sequence 8 GardenerUnited in Blood>Sequence 7Heretic SpellmasterHero Bandit , Gathering Convener>Sequence 6SowerTomb Raider, Clandestine Nemesis>Sequence 5BansheeCard of Blasphemy, Common Adversity>Sequence 4MadameAncient Treasures, Forbidden Lore>Sequence 3Divine MotherOld Horror>Sequence 2The Supreme, Lifegiver (Boon), Desolate Matriarch (Boon)Myth of the Second Epoch>Sequence 1Beauty Goddess (Boon), Naturewalker (Boon)>MadnessNone>PurificationShattering>WealthArtifacts: Harsh Teacher, Cryptic Strip, Night’s Watch , Ambush Proof , Inventor’s Log , Bag of Nature Forbidden Literature 3 Hidden Realm >KnowledgePotion Formula: Hanged Man S8+7, White Tower S8, Random Others that are free. Pathway Lore 3Beyonder CreaturesMystical RitualsMystical Languages 3 >InfluenceAllies:Bounty: Sofius Orland (Red Priest S3)Adrienne Priestley (Hermit S9) Lea Hooper (White Tower S9)Marie Etienne (Hanged Man S9)Octavie Raph (Moon S3) (Door S2)Bounty: Julius Sudworth (Visionary S3)-Ewart Randall (Sun S5) -Jessamine S. Ruof (Chained S5)-Luz Eggers (Death S7) Blessed - Brood Hive Anchors Tacit Agreement Most Secret Organization >Coincidences Infiltration 3 Sefirot UniquenessAngel 2 >TalentsAdvancement Ingenuity, Downstream Protection, Boon Pillager, Orthodox Integration
>>97700581Going for the Moon S0 but I will settle for killing Lillith if need be since that is by far an easier prospect. That ritual is literally one of my abilities from Chaos Primogenitor and all the components are stored in Lillith. As for completing the Moon Ritual though I will try using the Moon Uniqueness or crafting a new conceptual moon in the astral world to imprint upon. Going to curry favor with Adam since Visionary has the most Astral powers and God Almighty is the pillar of it. As for plans, it is just to eventually become the Goddess of Origin and try to survive the apocalypse. I will help my allies advance quickly to Angels so that they can lend some assistance. I will be target numero uno of MGoD which will be rather unpleasant. Completely free of corruption and resilient to MGoD’s attempts which is much better off than what Lillith is.
>>97700505too busy fapping, please understand
>>97700560Have you read the profiles of the ones in the companion section?We have: Girl pretending to be a boy, doesn't want to advance.Guy that was forcefed the potion, on the run, probably hating his/her new life and regretting everything, definitely doesn't want to advance.Mirror Person that won, took pity on the previous one, may still want to advance, this one is the most iffy.Spoiled noble, the only undeniably evil one and proud of it.Secretly a spy, not evil.Literally a waifu made for you, barely counts as a Demoness since she has mostly Hunter Path sequences apparently, swears loyalty to you.So out of these only one is evil and one could go either way. Why should you kill them on sight other than the spoiled brat?
>>97700618>We have: Girl pretending to be a boy, doesn't want to advance.>Guy that was forcefed the potion, on the run, probably hating his/her new life and regretting everything, definitely doesn't want to advance.Not wanting to advance is proof of the path being evil.
>>97700618>Guy that was forcefed the potion, on the run, probably hating his/her new life and regretting everything, definitely doesn't want to advance.The only downside is that you'd have to be kind of a dick to not help him advance to war bishop>>97700623Only the sequence 2 and 4 rituals actually require being "evil", and that's just a matter of who your targets are
So which sefirot are compatible with each other? I assume Demon of Knowledge and Brood Hive are since that's how Hidden Sage was created but are there any other exlicitly mentioned compatibilities?
>>97700627https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Acting_Method/List_of_Acting_Principles>Demoness>S9 Assassin: Assassin.>S8 Instigator: Instigate people to commit crimes and spread dissension.>S7 Witch: Become a true woman, a natural disruptor.>S5 Suffering: Bring pain to the target, not just physical, but also mental.>S4 Despair: Bring despair to others.>S2 Catastrophe: Be a bringer of calamity.
>>97700623>Not wanting to advance is proof of the path being evil.The path is absolutely evil. The specific companions offfered for it aren't tho. Most want to get the fuck out of there or already did.>>97700627>The only downside is that you'd have to be kind of a dick to not help him advance to war bishopIron-Blooded Knight would be enough, but looking at it the ritual for War Bishop is somehow easier.Alternatively you just make her come to terms with the situation and move on with her life. The guy didn't really seem to want to be a beyonder in general and just acted dumb out of love. Keeping her low sequence may severely limit how useful she is but it may be a better option for safety and generally having a normal life. You can't even help with revenge since the original is already dead.
>>97700650once again>>97700627>that's just a matter of who your targets are
>>97700650>Become a true woman, a natural disruptor.Someone seems a bit biased.
>>97699256Warrior king takes off his helmet and hes a bear person therefor so is his daughter kek
>>97700669proog?
>>97699248depends, something to take note of is sequence 4 and above can access (usually with conditions but it depends) a mythical creature form that makes any who view it (and dont have resistance by being of a similar level or just below) go insane so uhh since modern weapons tend to rely on someone looking at the thing theyre trying to kill even irl cruise missiles needing someone to tag the target usually, yeah its not looking good
>>97700657S4 Iron-blooded Knight turns you into a man and is about war, so it should be about being a true man, a natural warmonger.
>>97700657Is he wrong though? The strongest adversaries in CYOAs are always women.
>>97700630https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Pathways#Chart_of_Neighbouring_and_Compatible_Above_the_Sequence_Groups
>>97700674I assume you meant proof but eh, only about as much as we have that hes human or that kemono's are sub-human in this situation, also for all we know the warrior king has a kemono wife and his daughter inherited some animal featuresif youre going to assume someone is subhuman with no proof besides their outward features go to a klan rally or neo-nazi gathering youll find some friends there who agree with you
>>97700698Nta but given the artist's track record it's very likely that at least one of the two is true. That artist makes mostly monster girls/boys and other fantasy creatures, even the supposedly normal humans are strange. The fact the king is human is not guaranteed, in fact it's pretty unlikely, both him and the queen being human is almost impossible. The princess is probably not human, and may even be one of the 8 waifu choices from the previous image sets.
>>97698838Kinda ignoring that the draw of the childhood friend isnt the anthro but the already established connection which some people value quite highly, yes if all you wanted was kemono's then you can become landed and have as many as you want but only one option gives you someone who always and sincerely loved and cared for you and whom you very well may care for and love as well, some would say they would fall in love with the princess or the elf but that doesnt really do anything to the relationship or love already held with the childhood friend who doesnt want anything from you besides that you come back, dont die, and are happy, also like another person said just get land yourself anyways and give the childhood friend a good life with you
>>97700680>a single retarded anon can legit defeat a modern army and possibly cause the end of the world
>>97700707Personally im considering this as outside of binkies familiar lands setting cause no refferences to it so far as i can see but you do make a valid point
>>97696840With Independent Node, how far can we shift abilities and ability enhancements up and down?
At the risk of sounding multiplayer....Doing a Census of the modern day builds before I commit to mine.Engineer is going for Demon of KnowledgeOmnicient going for God AlmightyThe Wizard didn't plan to go all the way, Building towards Lord of Mysteries THe Baleful going for Father of DevilsThe Enlightener didn't declare intent, is on path of DoK>>97693124 Building towards Calamity of Destruction>>97693481 Building toward Eternal DarknessGOO cultist is unsuprisingly assisting Goddess of Origin.>>97696666 is on path towards LoM>>97698576 is on path towards LoM, but is just a friendly wizardAfter doing this census, I am going to build a Key of Light focused build, with a side of fuck the GOO cultist.No one post a modern day build till I’m done!
>>97700707nta but speaking of those choices, one of the ones that really drew me was the tsarevna but then i saw the comic of her and the person shes a double for and i just want them to be happy togetheras for my current choice out of the remaining 7, its a hard one to make between the tradelord, pharaoh, and empress although the empress i think is currently in the lead cause interesting artifacts to study and plenty of funding for stuff i wanna do(although tradelord also has funding so hmmm)although thinking of it, i guess i could also choose the tsarevna still and just let them be together, some might say thats cuck behavior or post pics of chairs but i dont give a shit its cute and i ship it and no amount of memes or bullying is going to change my mind, only thing that will is the option that those two be together in the open and not behind closed doors
>>97700698>if youre going to assume someone is subhuman with no proof besides their outward features go to a klan rally or neo-nazi gathering youll find some friends there who agree with youNeo-nazis?When I'm done with kemonos I won't be known as Hitler 2.0 Hitler will be known as proto me.Those damn subhuman beasts do nothing but rape defenseless sensible young men I won't stand aside and let it keep happening.
>>97696840https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wOqRsfBwAX-OaWDrZ4dd5WfPceKgKcKrKVS5MjXqOgU/edit?tab=t.0>Q30: "If a 'Sefirah' or 'Uniqueness' is sealed, since its 'symbolism' still exists, can one still pray to it and obtain a response? Or does the 'Sefirah' itself is the core pointed to by the supernatural, and once sealed, the corresponding authority becomes completely unreachable?">A30: Depends on the situation.>- Prayers directed at the symbolism or authority can obtain a response. If they fail, it's due to other reasons.>- Prayers with a clear point to consciousness, like adding something like "Great So-and-so" as prayer terms, will not.In Modern Day, we can immediately pray to sefirot and receive responses if we point toward their symbols.
For Rituals for advancement, do they have to immediately preempt downing the potion or can you just fulfill the conditions anytime and have that qualify?
>>97700773Which you won't know to do until S2.
>>97700775Any time. ANY time, even thousands of years before.
>>97700778Sefirot are not outer gods.
>>97700782They are quite literally the core of outer gods.
>>97700783But they are not. They do not automatically corrupt through knowledge. Only those with consciousness can.
>>97700775This >>97700779 Unless they specifically say you need to drink the potion then.You actually get a couple examples of preemptive rituals with the companions, the death S3 companion alread has the ritual complete and the door S3 companion also has the ritual conditions already.
>>97700770Funny given just recently i saw a setting where the beastfolk were just minding their own business not even doing anything like that and then human "heroes" came along and the beastfolk were slaughtered, enslaved, raped, and selectively bred until all that were left were a few tribes of the originals and cat girl (among other kinds of animal girl) slavesMaybe think that behavior of various creatures like humans or kemono depends on the setting, genre, and the individual, not on the race
>>97700794No, it is their race, hell their whole species.You fell for their propaganda dude, they control the media and have all the politicians in their pocket.They want to exterminate all human females from the face of the earth to leave men with no option but to copulate with them.They are devils that must be stoped at all cost.
>>97700618Looking at this list again, none of them are evil actually. Because if they were it would be stated, like ones on the criminal path.
>>97700773>>97700778Would Sefirot symbolism even be included in Pathway Lore 3? That should be the closest option
>>97700581Why do you look like some gay femboy
>>97700680Mythical creatures are easy to defend against with modern tech. Just make primitive augmented reality cognition filters bro.
If you choose to be an Old Horror or from the Second Epoch, could you justify preemptively having completed the ritual for it if you start in the Forsaken Land?
>>97700917Tech makes it worse actually. GOO cultist could livestream mythical creature form worldwide. By the time it gets censored, a good amount of people would be corrupted from seeing mythical creature form. Any competent non-insane GOO cultist could probably single handely destroy most of the modern world. Thankfully no actual non-insane GOO cultist anons yet.
>>97700680Ai will kill him
>>97696840>>97697207Modern Day build complete.The hacker known as 4chin>ORIGIN Modern DayBenefits Totals: 3 Wheel of Fortune>FATE >The Past The High Priestess - Use this to help jumpstart Beyonders in the modern era. All my friends get to be on this ride.>The Present The Sun - Madness is for Jobbers>The Future Wheel of Fortune - Better lucky than good, I always say>BODY >Gender Male>Traits Educated, Faithful, Innocent>STATUS Dark Trailblazer>PathwayMonster/Wheel of Fortune>MadnessFor Jobbers>PERKS >Wealth 25 Total, Spent 26Hidden Realm (-7) - Good luck finding me, I’m behind 7 Realms.Affluence 2 (-9)Ambush Proof (-3) Human Horseshoe (-1), Sculptor of Fate (-1), Overtool (-2), staff of terrors (-4) - make myself harder to target, keep my computer running, and become a wizard.>Knowledge 28 Total, Spent 30All Potion Formulas Sequence 9 and 8 [Free] GET PRANK’D GET PRANK’D GET PRANK’DSequence 7-3 potions for Monster/Wheel of Fortune (16)Pathway Lore rank 3 - (-12) - This way I can explain Beyonder stuff to anyone who falls for my pranks.
>>97700984 cont'd>Influence 25 Total, Spent 23Tacit Agreement (-8) - Just in case I can figure it out.Political connections (-3) - I don’t want glowies coming after me.Spirit Messenger (-2) - Another proxy layer.Anchors (-4) - Basically a cult that springs up hoping for more mystical knowledge.Zack Hollands (-3) - Already a recluse, we’ll get along fine.Celia and Floriane Tasse (-3) - Adopt the orphans, it’s only right. Laura Kraft (-2) - Waifu material>Coincidences 3 Total, Spent 2 spent on Pathway lore, 1 on affluence 2.>TALENTSContracts and Honorifics - the letter of the law is importantAptitude for Anonymity - Don’t want GOO cultist to find me.Independent Node - Makes myself harder to identify, if my powers are unique. My mythical creature is a Penguin. Qwaak!Advancement Ingenuity - Gotta be able to find out how to become a capricious god of fate.I know who I am and I am not the kind to take on the Goo cultist head on. Instead I hide, misdirect, and send out le ebin pranks that are low level potion formulas and mystic knowledge via anonymous imageboards. Using luck manipulation to help the information get to those that can use it to advance - saturate the battlefield as it were. If I am able to succeed in my loftier ambitions and become the Key of Light, then help to nudge people onto spiritually fulfilling life paths.
>>97696840>OriginIn Modern Day (25R, 25B, 25Y, 0G)>FatePast: The High PriestessPresent: The SunFuture: The Tower>BodyMaleLucky, Attractive, Trustworthy (+3R,+1Y, +2G)>StatusDark Trailblazer>PathwayBroker (Chaos Mist)>Wealth 26/26Secret Shrine 0Heavenly Scout -12Old Speedreader 0Harsh Teacher 0Cosmic Scrapbook -4Beyonder Characteristic (Justiciar S8) 0Affluence -3Hidden Realm -7>Knowledge 24/25All potion recipes S9+S8Acting Method -5Pathway Lore 3 -14Mystical Rituals -2Beyonder Creatures -3>Influence 28/28Bounty: Therese Alsopp (Door) (Chaos Mist Characteristic) -6Bounty: Octavie Raph (Moon) (Trojan Horse of Destiny) -6Bounty: Sofius Orland (Red Priest) -4Bounty: Tiara Robbins (Wheel of Fortune S3) (Black Emperor Ritual) -7Marrie Etienne (Hanged Man) 0Lea Hooper (White Tower) 0Gathering Invitation -2Political Connections -3>Coincidences Fragile Balance -2>TalentsThrifty HandsBoon PillagerContracts and HonorificsHand of DivinityGoing to try and progress through Chaos Mist up until it is no longer feasible, probably S3 or S2 and then hop over to Black Emperor Pathway to finish out my journey. Using a few allies and my Sealed artifacts I eventually acquire should help immensely in charting my progression forward. I am going to abuse my power over merchantry to rise to the top, easily using my knowledge of all the potion formulas up until S7 to my advantage as trading capital.
>>97700991Thank you for waiting tIll I posted mine to post yours, fellow High Priestess chad.
>>97700991>Broker (Chaos Mist)How do you deal with no potion formulas or ingredients or characteristics
>>97700984>Use this to help jumpstart Beyonders in the modern era. All my friends get to be on this ride.Thanks anon, you're a real one
>>97701001High Priestess is so strong for Modern Day. Most of the struggle at lower levels is just figuring out what the next step is.
>>97701004Using Heavenly Scout, Cosmic Scrapbook, and later on Allies that have had time to go up in sequence to supply them. Hopefully obtaining these items doesn't take too long.
>>97701005The ride never ends, my friend.>>97701008Truth. I like how we had very similar ideas for the build just went into different ways with it. You trying to make money, me just throwing it out there and seeing what sticks.
>>97699756>Not more than any other sefirotBut if I go for key of light I have to collect only one uniqueness
>>97700203Honestly even if I don't say it I'm aiming for LOM, I chose that path so I wouldn't contend it with other, as the other GOO I was interested in either had already been chosen by someone (DoK, GA) or they genderbend me.
>>97701037A nascent outer god doesn't need a uniqueness they already have their own that is ready when you reach sequence 1
>>97700680Wouldn't he be able to corrupt by simply talking about MGoD?
>>97701076The barrier is still strong at that point in time so no.
>>97700948You need to remember that whole process to fulfill the ritual in spirit I feel.
>>97701072In the great old one ingredients they mention >one other existing Sefirot and its sequence 1 characteristics and uniquenesses>>97701078Oh, right.
>>97701078>barrierCan somebody tell me what this thing can and cannot do? Son of Chaos was able to use a resurrection loophole to bypass it, and it doesn't block boons since Batings Black Insects were able to receive them in ancient times. Door and Moon both have abilities to leave and enter it, so it doesn't block those. And Sublunary Eye can make gaps in it through painting.Wouldn't the existence of boons and GOO blessed like the cultist automatically mean GOOs can bypass the barrier in ways they couldn't before?
>>97701083Oh then you need a uniqueness but you don't need more than one in any case
>>97701090https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Original_Creator#Astral_BarrierBasically it targets the GOOs and lets other shit through.
>>97701091But if they say that you need the uniquenesses wouldn't it mean you need all of them?
>>97701094Sorry I was thinking of sequence 0
>>97701103I instead was thinking of Above the Sequence, isn't it much more convenient doing it through the key of light route?
>>97700755To be clear, I (The Wizard; also you wrote me twice) am trying for DoK.
>>97701116Nta but good, this means the only ones competing with me for lord of misteries uniquenesses are someone who would just try to escape with it and the cultist.
>>97696840So, can you use more slot with Knowledge Gap to use the discount from benefits multiple time ? Might switch mystical language for the S6&5 potion formula of my pathway.
>>97701220I'm waiting until Tankista gives a ruling on that. Seems loopholey but LOTM as a setting is rife with loopholes
>>97700585>>97700581My build would want to plap your build
>>97701239No you would not.
>>97701220>>97701222He already did.>>97696078>>97696111
>>97698619Point distribution was arranged around a pattern, with the same High-Sequence Pathway groups ending up with the same total amount of points. Fool-Door-Error group is treated as the default, with little variation. Various Knowledge based Pathways accordingly have higher priced knowledge. Pathways originating from Outer Deities have different variations of cheaper starts due to that. And everything else fits its gimmicks as well.>>97697427No, as the intro to it states to the right.>>97697544Not enough information about areas and other things there in specific details like we have for the Fifth Epoch, otherwise I would have allowed each Epoch to have its own start.
>>97697774You won't see one in a long time.>>97700733I already answered that. Use Amon's example in the Error Pathway.>>97701220Treat each Pathway as its own single purchase slot.
Why is tankista a weeb
Does Infiltration's last paragraph says you get all the benefits from the groups you infiltrated in?
>>97700246Love this cyoaGoing for a sort of hit and run skirmisher build. The type that harries the edges of large battles or waylays small convoys of enemy soldier's. Disrupting their supply lines and what have you.Just not sure if I should dump the Soldier Levy's for something else. They're mainly here to bolster my numbers.Contenders for replacements are:>Wildermen>Stalkers>Knights of Turin>More Cold-WraithBackground: New Blood3 Allies80 Req30 Special30 PersonalCombat Abilities:- Combat Training I&II- Strategy I- Combat Riding - Ranger- WhirlwindSpells:- Eyes of Akasha- Cloak of Mists- Breath of WinterAllies:- Fianna McKuen- Darnath Anaxilias- It that CameUnits:- Vedyma (20) M: Average R: Very Difficult N: 6 C: Weak D: Good Special: Blood of the Ice Witch- Wild Hunters (25) M: Fast R: Very Difficult N: 10 C: Very Strong D: Very Good Traits: Ranger, Stealthy, Mounted, Big Game Hunter- Soldier Levyx2 (20) M: Average R: Average N: 20 C: Average D: Average Special: Phyhrixium Armor- Cold Wraith (15) M: Very Slow* R: Very Difficult* N: 26 C: Very-Weak* D: Very Poor*Banes: - CursedBoons:- Youthful Existence- Lucky- Magic DetectionWarzone: The Siege of DrakeholdCause: ObligationSpoils of War:- Nuptials- Boon of the Pale Lord
>>97701274A weebioactive spider bit him
>>97701274Sea Cat
>>97701275What do you think it could be saying otherwise?
>>97701256Hi, Tankista.Sorry for other questions, but how does nascent outer god works in regard of absorbing a sephira, is there a reason to aim to one that requires a large amount of uniquenesses, rather than aiming to an easier one like key of light? If you accomodate something like Chaos sea or Sephira castle will you become a pillar and be unable to accomodate new ones? Also the text says you can't accomodate more than a characteristic at the same sequence, as you would lose control, does this stop happening at sequence 0, as you would need to accomodate multiple sequence 1 characteristic to become a great old one?
>>97701259Can you answer >>97696707?
>>97701290>Sorry for other questions, but how does nascent outer god works in regard of absorbing a sephira, is there a reason to aim to one that requires a large amount of uniquenesses, rather than aiming to an easier one like key of light?This depends on your individual preferences and plans.>If you accomodate something like Chaos sea or Sephira castle will you become a pillar and be unable to accomodate new ones?Yes.>Also the text says you can't accomodate more than a characteristic at the same sequence, as you would lose control, does this stop happening at sequence 0, as you would need to accomodate multiple sequence 1 characteristic to become a great old one?That's correct. Once your custom Pathway is finalised, obtaining excessive characteristics is no longer an issue.>>97701294Yes.
>>97701307As an additional question the contion to become the great old one [you] mean that as you do that you will also become the associated great old one of wich you have the sefirot, as you are accomodating both a sefirot, its uniquenesses and its sequence 1 characteristics? If so would that make you fall prey to convergence instinct if you were to accomodate a pillar this way?As an unrelated question would true god seal be able to protect you from entities as powerful as the mirrored original creator, Celestial Worthy or the Primordial God Almighty?
>>97701274He probably has Mongol + Chinese rapebaby blood in him.Russians frequently got btfo by horse nomads before firearms became OP as fuck in the 16th century.
>>97701307If I put inside the pot of mercy an item with beyonder characteristic would I get all the recipes up to it's tier because it contains all those characteristics?
>>97701333*pot of charity
>>97701330>As an additional question the contion to become the great old one [you] mean that as you do that you will also become the associated great old one of wich you have the sefirot, as you are accomodating both a sefirot, its uniquenesses and its sequence 1 characteristics? If so would that make you fall prey to convergence instinct if you were to accomodate a pillar this way?The description tells you that a Great Old One position for your custom Pathway just doesn't exist. You can only add your Pathway to another canon group.For that reason, it also straight up tells you that you can do this to a Pillar position without any issues.>As an unrelated question would true god seal be able to protect you from entities as powerful as the mirrored original creator, Celestial Worthy or the Primordial God Almighty?No, nothing can protect you from that. It's only there to help before the problem within you goes out of hand.>>97701333Yes, but the formulas will be incomplete.
>>97701352Nta but would downstream protection help with preventing those things and in modern times they aren't a problem right? Also is it important endlessly forking road for adjacent path?
>>97701259>Treat each Pathway as its own single purchase slot.Godammit, I was right the first time. Gonna have to redo Wizard again.
>>97701356>Nta but would downstream protection help with preventing those thingsIt could help against corruption and madness if they were induced by them near the top of the Pathway, but once you reach True God status it becomes irrelevant.>and in modern times they aren't a problem right?You were told that twice, in the Origin, and in the Status...>Also is it important endlessly forking road for adjacent path?What do you mean by "important"? You can do that if you want different Sequence progression and powers, and if you don't want that, then don't do that.>>97701363I'll note it down to state it clearly somewhere to avoid confusion in the future.
>>97696840Do you get Keila's body if you buy her Sealed Artifact her consciousness is trapped on? What about the other way around?
>>97701376You need to buy both if you want both.
>>97701366Can mother of depravity corrupt someone with brood hive?
>>97701384If she gets it, I would imagine so. All Beyonders of Moon and Mother would start feeling the effects, like they did in Circle of Inevitability.Downstream Protection should help against that, but if she gets right in front of your face, then it's irrelevant. Just like whether she has Brood Hive or not.If you are asking about the scenario where you're the one who has the Brood Hive, then you're a Great Old One and you're pretty much on equal ground. She might corrupt you if you don't resist, and might not be able to if you fend her off.
Wasn't the GOO ratings something likePillars (MGoD, LoM, GA) = 100Natural GOOs = 95GOOs = 90With caveats that taking in compatible neighboring sefirot can put one at like 99 and fully realizing your concepts can exceed 100.
>>97701398I was asking if she could use a connection with the sefirot to influence someone who has it
>>97701407I don't think so.She could influence the actual Brood Hive when it was by itself and not accommodated by anyone, but if you're fully in control of it then she probably won't be able to.
>>97701406A non pillar GOO that accommodates another Sefirot will have the power of a Pillar but not the corresponding symbolism, so above a 100
>>97701366>It could help against corruption and madness if they were induced by them near the top of the Pathway, but once you reach True God status it becomes irrelevant.So, it's more or less completely useless In Modern Day, even in the very long term. Human Heart is better for my goals. Maybe even Hand of Divinity is better, because anchors are the main benefit of faith for True Gods. Almost vasted a talent slot.
>>97701412How would the cracked hourglass work for a woman who became a man?
>>97701439>How would the cracked hourglass work for a womanIt would try to kill her as its description tells you.
>>97701444based hourglass
>>97701259>Use Amon's example in the Error Pathway.So we can shift by 4 sequences. Independent Node op.
>>97700948Yes.
>>97701471>demigod abilities at sequence 8AAIIIIEEEEEEE
>>97701478yeah, but they will also be at Sequence 8 scale in terms of power
>>97696840Are free Partners/Formulas/Sealed Artifacts part of the limit or do they go above it? Do you get to have 7 if you got one for free from somewhere else?
>>97701505The only thing that ignores the limit is the High Priestess card for the past, which is why it specifies it.
>>97701471Gives me an idea to go full on switch paths every sequence and use Independent Node to stuff them full and end up as a Demon of Knowledge. GA's 5 sequences with White Tower last lets you jump into DoK pathways and then take Inextinguishable Ravings and High Dimensional Overseer for a full 9 different pathways of compatible jumps.
>>97701499Oh right. Not as op as I thought then
This is what in modern day will become if you dont kill the cultisthttps://youtu.be/Mcy97x-hTCE
>>97701524ngl cultist seems primed to self-destruct before doing too much damageI'm more worried about >>97700991 considering Son of Chaos is already set to find a way to loophole past the barrier, and he just gave him a connection to abuseHe doesn't even have independant node
Do you think being blessed by Evernight Goddess would be a good way to enter in contact with Klein?
>>97701531Technically speaking, giving the Son of Chaos his sefirot as part of a deal to not make contracts with the other GOOs would avert the apocalypse entirely as the only reason they cooperated was due to his binding contracts.
>>97701541>giving up powerAnons aren't ever doing that in a million years
>>97701551I would totally take that deal if I felt I would be in a position to to make a play for the GA or DoK sefirots afterword. I could change paths from Chaos Mist to Sun for GA or go with the Sun-White Tower-Hermit/Paragon path for DoK. Being a merchant is about flexibility.
>>97701560But this will also make you a poor choice for a GOO position in some eyes. Expect to face some problems if your attitude becomes known. And it most likely will be.
>>97701366So for forking road, if you're on a ED or CoD pathway, do you need benefits in all 5 or just your own group? Due to the hidden neighboring status and all that.
>>97701581This sounds like a very salty cultist.
>>97701541>only reason they cooperated was due to his binding contracts.Yeah, but they'd still seek the sefirah regardless, the contracts just mean no backstabbing from their side (i.e, if not for the contracts, if one of them is in a bad position another compatible GOO will eat them). Taking the contracts out of the equation is important since they won't have flawless coordination anymore, but it won't stop the apocalypse
>>97701610>After The Apocalypse, Klein intended to fulfill his promise to return the Magic Wishing Lamp to the universe, using it to lure out the hiding Uncertain Mist and secretly influence "Him". Without the Uncertain Mist, the Outer Deities would be disunited, and would easily be driven away.[COI1177]Fair enough. But easily driven away gives some merit to the idea.
>>97701510So what the is even the point of the free ones then? In all other cyoas free things go above the limits, this makes free option useless.
>>97701597>So for forking road, if you're on a ED or CoD pathway, do you need benefits in all 5 or just your own group? Due to the hidden neighboring status and all that.Just your own group.>>97701627Things normally cost points.Things being free means they don't cost points.It doesn't cost you points. That's the point.
>>97701622Yeah, because fighting for earth would be Lotm + every single GOO except Father of Devils, GA and Goddess of Origin+ Supernova Dominator they've managed to gaslight to their side, meanwhile the invaders would be always be looking for the inevitable backstabbing Modern Day might even have a stronger party because even if there's no way to brainwash one of the invaders, it might be possible to have GA, Lotm and the Goddess of Origin together.
>>97697333>Looked at Elspeth's junta, decided it sounded like a pretty cushy gig and that the others can deal with their problems and implode while I work as the God of Magic (actually the God of Health and Safety Compliance For Using Psi) and explore the place>Look at the mess that U^U ended up in trying to be a hero, immediately decided to go home after she generously offered me toI feel I just have fundamentally different morals than most of /cyoag/, I am loyal to the hand that feeds me (and honours their promise of godlike immortality) and I don't like to fight uphill battles against people I don't even necessarily disagree with.
>>97701531Wait, without a GOO to stop Son of Chaos, isn't the Modern Day Origin completely fucked?He was originally sealed by LoM right?
>>97701719We don't know how quickly characteristics will start appearing; it might be possible for someone to become a GOO before he tries it
>>97701641>It doesn't cost you points.That's still useless. Just get more points. There are way more methods to get points than free items, so free items are never worth it if they don't also raise the cap. Free items always raise the cap, it's really dumb if they don't.
>>97701719The text states that condition of the Outer Deities is the same.Just like with the explanation for the chaos head of Primordial God Almighty within the City of Calamity, the Genie is already stuck within the wishing lamp. It will appear when the setting has progressed enough.>>97701755That's your opinion.
>>97701755> Just get more points. Have you ever heard the words 'opportunity cost' before?
>>97701769>That's your opinion.It's a constant acroass cyoas for a reason, because it would be dumb otherwise.
>>97701808Putting a limit on companions is also dumb.
>>97701816You would be able to buy infinite free companions if there was no limit.
Say, who the hell made Pokemon Personified and Space Opera Refuge Adventure back in the day?
>>97701861You did, remember?
>>97701808Anon, this isn't even his first CYOA where he does that, it's always been fine.Without the companion limit everyone would always take the same companions/items/whatever, wich would kill the originality of the builds.
>>97701869>our authors forgot usIs there a grimmer fate?
>>97701769can boon vessel be used with excess imbuement to have boons by multiple gods?Also does buying the angel perk for a partner/formula/artifact still give you madness?
Where is Gil
>>97701961>Authors kept making OCs, but it got too complicated for you and you're left behind>Authors outgrew the hobby and you're left waiting in the digital void for someone who's not coming back
>>97702071Why do you want him?
>>97702077>Stopped moving forward and got left behindDo not weep for anon, he earned his fate
>>97702101We're supposed to be here forever though.
Has anyone managed a build starting at S1 or S0?
>>97702111Look back. Are you the same person that made that promise half-seriously, half-jokingly all those moons ago?
>>97702131>S1Pretty easy to do>S0Impossible
>>97702155maybe for you lil bro
>>97702159>maybe for you lil broSorry, you're right, slight correction >>97694728 did it.
>>97702181but he's not a beyonder?
>>97702355>You begin as a technical quasi-sequence 0 in this unique Pathway but are forced in the non-beyonder status
>>97702365Seems like a technicality but whatever
>>97702386Yes, was joking, you can't be an actual sequence 0 at the start.
>>97702391ok ok ok
>>97698689>>97698471I was gonna make a build but I'm mad because this is just my build.
>>97702402Make it but better.
>>97696840>Pathway Lore x3>fully know every abilityDefine "fully". Does it include the inner mechanics?
>>97702402add an image and it's better by default.
>>97702402ha haa! anon was build cucked
>>97702477>pic relokay you got me
>>97696856>>97697457>>97697488Fuaaark, you're right. Not sure where I messed up since even if you apply the benefits discount separately it still wouldn't match up to what I had. Should be this instead:>Acting Method (Free), Potion Formula(S8-5, 16), Pathway Lore x3 (2), Mystical Languages (0)My plan can still work but unfortunately advancement after S5 gets difficult. And I lack detailed knowledge of Beyonder Creatures now but that's not a major problem for making entirely new species. Appraise will have to fill in the gaps.
>>97702644Wouldn't you save more points by taking the tower instead? Since the price for pathway lore would only double once
>>97696840Why are people not taking the Justice Past Fate In Modern Day to buy an Uniqueness?
>>97702713by the time it's relevant won't law of convergence do the same for free
>>97702713This is recognized as One-True-Build already, and anons tend to be contrarians.
>>97702729You will lose the uniqueness to someone in the same sequence but with the perk.
>>97702713Espensive, doesnt do anything until way later, requires coincidences
Post Danmachi
>>97702751Your time is over.
Danmachi has been solved. All the rats exterminated.
>>97702798>>97702806>thinking ritual shitposters dieouroboros
>>97702806>Danmachi has been solvedNo it hasnt
>>97702827Yes it has.
>>97702854No it hasnt
Squeak?
>>97696840For those more expert than me if a pillar accomodates lower-sequence characteristics does he still fall victim to convergenve instinct, even without a new uniqueness or sefirot?
>>97702948Why the fuck do you even need to do that as a Pillar?
>>97702734Someone did it already, and I wanted to add flavour to our motley crew. May 4chin favour you.
>>97702798I can't wait to say this to LOTM enjoyers.
>>97702948no
My unfinished lotm build is like a gangly demon on my back, suffocating me...
>>97702959For example I might want to use the bizareness of a lord of misteries to a polymath to analyze authorities.Pretty useless considering how capable at replicating powers the lord of misteries already are but still, I wonder.Or taking something from the mother family to synergize with the genesis symbolism from god almighty.
>>97696840Does the Mystery Box get True God's Seal too or just False Angel?Does Downstream Protection stop you from being turned into a sociopath with Abyss?
>>97703001if they do it either does nothing(it's from you) or it's the most powerful seal in the universe(it's from the OC)
>>97702994Then you just casually conjures a historical projection of a White Tower archangel and turns it into your marionette. Or uses another one of your niggalion possible tricks.You specifically need Uniqueness/Sephira to do anything with symbolism. Well, LotM can just steal non-main symbolism from other GOOs.
>>97702806Solving a cyoa is a subjective experience
>>97696840Feynapotter kingdom would be really comfy if they didn't live in a cosmic horror story and their own monogamist fertility goddess wasn't possessed by Shub-Niggurath herself.
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>>97703253Isn't that the point of the series, that everything that looks comfy and fun and cultivation-shaped just gets more and more awful and shitty the more you scratch beneath the surface?
NGL lord of chinks doesn't seem at all interesting.
Then why won't you stop talking about it?
Is it Mysteries as in Eleusian Mysteries, or puzzling questions, or murder mysteries, or what?
Italicsbros.... I'm fading away. The OC doesn't exist *cough*
>>97703502I did, that is why the thread died, everyone feels the same but most don't say it.
>>97703519I'm a secondary, but from what I found these days it's misteries because of the lord of misteries' ability to do things that can't be understood and should be impossible.
>>97703614Oh. I asked because from his pictures, Klein looks exactly like a victorian murder mysteries detective who should hunt down grandiose victorian serial killers, but that seems quite unrelated to all the goos and potions.
>>97703627one of his personas is called Sherlock Moriartythe others are (Bloodborne) Gehrman (Jack) Sparrow, Merlin Hermes, and Dwayne (the Rock) Dantès
How bad Marie Etienne's flaw could potentially be In Modern Day?
>>97703796she knows your internet history
>>97703806It's so over.
>>97703796Your kiwi farms thread is never going away.
>>97703796How bad it is depends completely on who you are as a person. If you are not a bad person you don't have anything to fear.
>go up pathway>become goo...now what?
>>97702735Then take it back from them
>>97704120Job to an ultimate god.
>>97704120Fight to the death to keep your powers?Change nothing?
>>97702474Nope. It's the same as reading the wiki.
>>97704120Enjoy phenomenal cosmic power, and occasionally defend your position.
>>97704120Kill and eat another goo to become a super goo.
>>97704142Super goo is what i make every night.
Question for Tank or any other LotM reader: if an Angel/King of Angels/True God/Outer Deity finds out I'm the closest thing to the Original Creator (Nascent Outer Deity), will they be fine with my ascension or are they going to smother me in my crib?
>>97704159>I imagine it would depend on how you act and what your goals are.>I don't think any True Gods whose Pathways you are planning to intrude on when adding yourself to their Great Old One position would be thrilled. But others might look in favour to getting an additional ally in the coming apocalypse.
>>97696840Is there an option that lets you switch Organizations?I know there's one that lets you infiltrate another, but I'm talking burn bridges and jump ships.There's also picrel but that's not really what I'm looking for either. Also locked behind a pretty high sequence.
>>97704120If you aren't a pillar you can try to accomodate another sefirot (not calamity of despair and eternal darkness together>>97704159>I'm the closest thing to the Original Creator.I wouldn't say you're the original creator any more than his other direct children (mother goddess of depravity, mother tree of life and son of chaos)
>>97704290>mother tree of lifemother tree of desire, had a brainfart.
>>97704120Chill, kill competitors, and try not to think about how your annihilation is still inevitable.
You're not "Him"!
>>97704308I am honestly "him" but it seemed rude to say it out loud
>>97704308I prefer it in pic form>>97704362
>>97702948The 4th pillar took in a S1 characteristic of Eternal Aeon and is only constantly looping his destruction and rebirth every 24 hours. You will be fine.
>>97704461>The 4th pillar took in a S1 characteristic of Eternal Aeon and is only constantly looping his destruction and rebirth every 24 hours.Wasn't he just the calamity of destruction who accomodated the monarch of decay, who was manifesting the simbolism of termination because of the mirrored original creator's interference? Seems to me he was in that condition more because of circle of infinity's interference rather than because of the convergence instinct by exceeding the position of pillar.
>>97704370Ok, what's with the quotes around the pronouns in the cyoa?
>>97704583the original uses a special pronoun for gods and the translators didn't know what to do
>>97704595>all high sequence builds are troonsGrim.
>>97704609Everything for power.
>>97704583the chink word for capital G gods is the equivalent of GOD/GOD
Is there a way for a Goddess of Origin to usurp the Mother Goddess of Depravity? Goddess of Origin still lacks the essential symbolism that makes Mother Goddess of Depravity a Pillar.
>>97704645Beat her to almost death (need help from another GOO for this). Fuse with her and suppress her consciousness.
>>97704656Feel like you should do that last one before any attempted fusion
>>97704664Right. Messed up there a bit.
When are we gonna get some good, high quality, REAL OC again, like Spirit Conscript?
>>97704707When you make it.
>>97704609it's trans-humanism so it's ok
>>97704670You'll have eternity to regret your mistake.
>>97704707>like Spirit ConscriptImmaculate bait my good sir.
>>97704746its a good cyoa, chud
>>97696840>finally get to the end of my build>realize I don't care for my Origin>restartjfc bros. .
>>97704792How the fuck did you get that far? I'm also stuck at the origin, and choosing which path to go for. I think I narrowed it down between Fake Person and Modern Day. I also want to make a Nascent Outer God build but to be honest I don't really understand how exactly it's supposed to work, and I don't get where it's supposed to go. Is it a canon timeline addition or is it supposed to also go in Modern Day?
>>97704773Like DragonFall no doubt.
>>97704845Nta, I made a modern day build and now am working on a nascent outer god one, from my understanding the latter is active in the fifth epoch, like the others.
>>97704872Do you have a better understanding of how it's supposed to work?I was looking at the origins and some seem interesting, but the fact half of them lock you into Lost Stranger makes them not that appealing. Which is a shame since Unsealed Artifact and Runaway Knowledge sound fun. Evil Spirit and Survivor also seem interesting but the forced unremovable madness makes them too unviable since they invalidate one of the best talents.The fact I haven't decided on a path yet probably also helps my indecision since I don't know what benefits I will need.
>>97704905>Do you have a better understanding of how it's supposed to work?On what do you have doubts?
>>97704746you're right, good doesn't cut it; what a GREAT spot of OC that was
>>97704905You can spend a coincidence or two to remove the corruption later to bypass those or cheese the agony and death high corruption with a Phoenix Feather.
>>97704656Reminder that every 2160 years she can borrow power from the unborn Chaos Primogenitor and use power above the Original Creator.
>>97704972Nta but no, the symbolism of Chaos Primogenitor can't operate on the scale of the Original Creator before his birth, even if it encompass the same breadth of phenomena.
>>97704931Mostly what powers I get.. Do I get the powers of the potions I drink or do I just have to use the recipes but I get to make up some powers myself? When I get to Sequence 0 I have to shed the powers anyway so what power does that leave me with as a god? Do I have to start drinking potion again after ascension to get my powers back?>>97704965>You can spend a coincidence or two to remove the corruption later to bypass thoseHow? They both specifically say that they can't be removed by options in the cyoa, and you can't get talents later.
>>97696840>>97697207Wise Holy Man>OriginIn Modern Day>FatePast - Wheel of FortunePresent - The SunFuture - The Tower>BodyMaleLucky, Devious, Attractive>StatusDark TrailblazerWe 32 Kno 25 Inf 27 Coinc 1>PathwayReader/White Tower>WealthNightly Anything 22Cosmic Scrapbook (discount) 4Trial Package 0Potion Ingredients s6 White Tower 3Affluence 3>KnowledgeKnowledge Gap + Incomplete Formula s6-s3 White Tower (discount) 8Knowledge Gap s4 Wheel of Fortune 0Knowledge Gap s7 Visionary 1Sealed KnowledgeActing Method 5Mystical Rituals 2Beyonder Creatures 3Pathway Lore x2 6>InfluenceGathering Invitation 2"Tiara Robbins" 23"Chloe Massey" 1"Christina Agartha" (discount) 1"Anise Durant" 0>CoincidencesPsychological Treatment 1>TalentsThriving FighterHuman HeartHand of DivinityAdvancement IngenuityTo counter those who've chosen to submit to wills of Sephira and also purchased Uniqueness, it's not enough to simply purchase it yourself, at least I don't believe so. We need to make predestined fates chaotic and unpredictable again, and we must believe in something that I would call a miracle.Because I don't want to swap pathways unless absolutely forced, and because supplementary ingredients for Wisdom Angel are super evil, Advancement Ingenuity is, sadly, absolutely necessary, even if I have good ideas for every other ritual.With my knowledge of pathways and beyonder creatures, incomplete formulas won't be a problem even if I remember only supplementary ingredients and rituals. With Potion Ingredients s6, I believe successful exploiting of this loophole to be a reasonable development.
>>97704987The two coincidence options that deal with corruption don't remove them, they guarantee that they will be neutralized later.
>>97704995S8-s7 formulas are reasonable to obtain from the gathering or "Christina", who can act as my mentor. And I, in turn, can help her with eventual advancement ritual for Mysticism Magister.S2 formula can be obtained by looking at some dragons, a certain friendly Soothsayer can help with this, I'm sure. And, lucky her, without the seal I will regain knowledge about Snake of Mercury. Fate surely likes to repeat itself, and parallels with Grisha and Ouroboros are funny, but also horrifying.Obvious synergy of Polymath and Scrapbook is obvious, and it will likely help with the act too. Shame, there are not enough points for Dishonor. Perhaps miracles can achieve something similar?Antigonus was at s2 when he became a teammate of many angels and archangels, right? It won't be the first time when historical projection has reproduces extra powers of Medici's comrades.Anti-Outer Secret Arts of Blathering domain are quite advanced: https://youtu.be/p_khWy7GAcQTheme for eventual conflict with The Omniscient: https://youtu.be/PtnrwN602BgEven my own grand ambitions aside, I simply can't trust those who've chosen to submit to the will of Chaos Sea (Primordial God Almighty).He relies on convergence, but not only nice things may converge.He relies on boons, but that also makes him a target for Purification.He relies on allies and Tacit Agreement, but spams Bounty without a second thought. What will remain of this Agreement when fate is chaotic and unpredictable again? Will his allies stay with him after they hear my words of wisdom and caution?Come on, cultist. Our battle will be legendary. Or not.
>keep losing track of currencies>fuck it, i'll pick whatever makes for a cool storyand just like that we're back
>>97704995>picUncanny.
>>97704987>Mostly what powers I get.. Do I get the powers of the potions I drink or do I just have to use the recipes but I get to make up some powers myself?You make up the powers, even if I believe you have to base them a bit on the potion you take, but this specific thing is a bit unclear to me too.>When I get to Sequence 0 I have to shed the powers anyway so what power does that leave me with as a god?You shed the characteristics you took in, but keep the ones of your personal pathway colored by them, meaning you keep all your custom powers.>How? They both specifically say that they can't be removed by options in the cyoa, and you can't get talents later.He's talking about the first two options in the consequence section, wich don't directly remove them, but ensure in your travel you will meet things to suppress them.
>>97704987>Do I get the powers of the potions I drink or do I just have to use the recipes but I get to make up some powers myself?nta but it's said that you can "reinterpret" your new powers using whatever ideas and symbolisms can be derived from the sequences you're comboing so i guess you have some guidance with a little bit of leewaya good rule of thumb is that the new power you're making should as strong as the one you're copying
>>97704845It was the first thing I picked and even though I started cooling to it as my build went on I was too stubborn to change it.I'm also thinking of going Fake Person as this anon, >>97697021 managed to sell me on it.I think I will also make a "modern day" version of my build that will represent me build, which is me, being merged with me in modern day, who is my build.
>>97705003Ok? How does that help with this? They get removed after I enter the world, but I have to choose the talents now, and now I still have the madness.>>97705017>You make up the powers, even if I believe you have to base them a bit on the potion you takeI see. It's not entirely clear in the wording. I originally thought you just made a mix and match path not a custom powers one.>meaning you keep all your custom powers.That's also worded weirdly but I can see it.>He's talking about the first two options in the consequence section,That's a good way to deal with them later, but that doesn't allow me to pick the talent. The madness isn't the problem, there are endless ways to deal with them without perks once in the world, but the talent I can only get in the cyoa.>>97705020So combined with what the other anon said what I have to do is less come up with powers and more come up with a concept that will "taint" the powers I chose to create similar but different powers then? Which I assume also means I get a lot of variety since low sequences scale later and combine with high sequence powers.It's a really cool idea, but requires a lot more effort on my part, I should try to finish a normal build first.
So for power levels its:1 Chaos Primogenitor (born)2 4th Pillar3 Original Creator4 Mirrored Original Creator5 Chaos Primogenitor (unborn)6 Yin-Yang Calamity of Destruction7 Mother Goddess of Depravity (United)8 Lord of Mysteries9 God Almighty10 Triple sefirot GOO
>>97705051No.
>>97705046>I see. It's not entirely clear in the wording. I originally thought you just made a mix and match path not a custom powers one.Yes, that was my first assumption too.>That's also worded weirdly but I can see it.Here I straight up asked Tankista to be sure about this.>That's a good way to deal with them later, but that doesn't allow me to pick the talent. The madness isn't the problem, there are endless ways to deal with them without perks once in the world, but the talent I can only get in the cyoa.Yes, I know, that's annoying.If it's worth anything Tankista mentioned once you become a true god downstream protection is less important.By the way I will already mention that the theme of my custom path is the power of friendship
>>97701533>Do you think being blessed by Evernight Goddess would be a good way to enter in contact with KleinI haven't read the full story, but he's the organizer/head of the Tarot Club and actively collecting the pages of Emperor Roselle's diary. Approaching him through either should be relatively easy, as they're scattered all over the world.
>>97705051I don't think so, IMHO it's1Original Creator≈ Chaos Primogenitor (born)2 4th pillar3 Mirrored Original Creator or other sefirot derived by the Original Creator using its full potential4 Pillar (with Mother Goddess of Depravity having the strongest simbol among the three via Chaos Primogenitur but having restraint on it, and without that being the weakest, as her Sefirot is shattered)5 original children of the Original creatorSefirots derived from the original creator6 other Great Outer Gods (they can reach pillar level if they eat other Sefirots, the ones surrounding the earth now are the strongest in the universe).
>>97705067>I haven't read the full story, but he's the organizer/head of the Tarot Club and actively collecting the pages of Emperor Roselle's diary. Approaching him through either should be relatively easy, as they're scattered all over the world.Yes, I wanted to join the inner circle of the Tarot Club, so I wanted to contact him.
>>97701861Pokemon Personified is an early Italics cyoa
>>97705081Also his best.
>>97705027>It was the first thing I picked and even though I started cooling to it as my build went on I was too stubborn to change it.So you are one of those that makes choices as they go? I tend to read the whole cyoa before I make a build, which usually means I take a lot more time. Most origins are weighted to make you go for ceratin paths, so choosing one before I choose a path is a bit backwards.>I'm also thinking of going Fake Person as this anon, >>97697021 (You) managed to sell me on it.That's funny, because that was me as you can see. I like it because it's the most freedom after the special ones, even if you lose out on a couple benefits.I think I'm planning to use it "wrong" tho. I was planning to go for the Non-Beyonder/judjement past for max traits, when Fake Person clearly incentivizes you to start as high as possible to get as many events as possible.>>97705059Well, you definitely helped me understand so thinks for that.>If it's worth anything Tankista mentioned once you become a true god downstream protection is less important.That's good to know, but for 2 out of the 3 builds I am plannig I am starting at Non-Beyonder/S9 so that's a long time to S0.>By the way I will already mention that the theme of my custom path is the power of friendshipThat sounds fun. I have no idea what I would go for so I will give up for now, but it's probably not the same. I have half an idea, but I have no idea what kind of powers would come out of it.
>>97705069Nta, where would (You) stand? As the Nascent Old One.
>>97704707Both Spirit Conscript and LOTM are far too eastern for my liking. My favorite cultural influences are those of the Old World, everything before India and Sub-Saharan Africa.
>>97705092Am happy to be helpful.do you want to share your idea?>>97705110What do you mean?
>>97705121How is LOTM even that oriental? It's just Cultist Simulator retranslated a couple of times.
>>97705123>What do you mean?The mystery box Above The Sequence option is literally called (You). Where would that stand in hierarcy, not your build, just that "spot" in general. The Radiant Nothing Sefirot. I guess it's a bit hard to say because it can fuse with any other one and still keeps half of all the others.
>>97704845I've made a 5th Epoch build and a Modern Day build, this is what I've put together.There's basically three games within this CYOA: Modern Day, Nascent, and all the other origins. Each of them have varying lengths to play and require different levels of understanding to holistically create. Each of them end in a sprawling nightmare of options at the end where you have 11+ pages of selections from the blasphemy slates to purchase a few weird items, allies, and the potions for the path(s) you're planning on climbing. Everyone's basically on a level playing field.Modern day is the easiest game to play. You ignore much of the CYOA's early options - Regions, Organizations, Noble Family, Special Advancement and Personal History. There's also no way to get madnesses as far as I can tell. So you only get Benefits from your initial Future Tarot card. You also get to ignore Benefits when selecting Talents, so you don't have to be as thoughtful about your selections. to get the talents you want (not that it matters that much unless you intentionally build in a way that eschews your selections. You really only select your Tarot, your Body, then spend your Wealth, Influence, Knowledge, and Coincidence (if you selected Coincidences from your body or tarot selections) This is the easiest way to play the game, if you close your eyes on the 11+ pages of Partners and Items. Also, the cheapest way to get your potions is to buy them like this: You have 3 benefits in the path you want, which reduces any purchase by 3 on your slate, to a minimum of 1. So buy your potions in bespoke selections, buy them in batches that get as close to 4 points each, so the purchase only costs 1, for each batch. Example from the Seer slate - Buy Sequence 9, 8,and 7 as a batch - this costs 2. then buy Sequences 6, 5, 4, and 3 individually. This costs 1, 1, 1, and 2 respectively. In total that costs 7 Knowledge. Compared to 17 knowledge if you bought them as a single batch.1/4
>>97705149Cont’dNext I’ll discuss the Nascent. It’s a complete build your own pathway for the 5th epoch. I’d only recommend this one after you’ve built one of the other 5th epoch choices. You get to mix and match the abilities you want throughout the sequences and is the most powerful choice in the game. Your main resource is Coincidence so you can path out your Personal Advancements. You’d have to read through the whole thing to really build something unique. Probably the intended experience after you’ve created one of the rest. Benefits only matter for purchasing Items and Partners. Last, the rest. The rest. The rest. The rest can be split into two groups, those that lock you into Lost Stranger or Not. The main difference here is that with Lost stranger you can’t: Start in a Noble Family. That’s it. You’re still going to be able to do an organization if you pick up the Influence Perk Most Secret Organization. All of them pick Tarot, Body, Region (FLotG is goated, only reason not to pick it is Lore), Secret Organization, Pathway, Special Advancement, Personal History, Madness, Wealth, Knowledge, Influence, and Confluence selections, and Talents. Free skips in Personal Advancement are Goated, as is using multiple Infiltrations to gain the pathway Benefits of all the cults that support your path(s). Proper planning can get you 7-10 Benefits for your pathway, which will give you enough Coincidence Events to buy nearly every event in the Personal History selection. Treating the events as Past is generally best, as you can mitigate the madness easily from the events in it, though eventually you will have to burn coincidence if you want as few madnesses as possible. Old Horror is Goated, you get Angel for free, which means no madness from selecting it. Boon Companion is free power as far as I can tell, if you’re willing to let an outer god help to define you. 2/4
>>97705152Cont’dThere is no reason not to plan out your character to sequence 1 or 2, unless you’re just building a mid level person who’s not competing for godhood, but as a power fantasy CYOA, I see few choosing that, if their build selections don’t accidentally lock them into it. Then again, you can Sartre your future advancements without spending coincidences, if you fuck yourself with your selections. In the realm of fantasy, anything is possible. For talents, the only one that is difficult to get is ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD, which requires multiple ALL Benefits purchases and Talent Benefit cost Reducers, everything else is basically free to get so long as you build in a way that supports your pathway.Final Thoughts: The CYOA presents itself as much more complicated than it actually is. Much of its mystique is in the odd language selections, stemming from translation issues. Which I suppose is thematically appropriate for a system that represents Eldritch knowledge. We’ve all seen the Time Knife at this point. Its flow as a CYOA forces you to read ahead and double back if you want to understand what you’re purchasing or want to confirm what you need to purchase/what you are restricted from purchasing. The CYOA is intentionally mean, making perfectly valid decisions sound bad, likely due to the nihilistic nature of the source material. The Personal Advancement section especially confirms that you’re not going to go mad and die unless you just build wrong. I might want to run through the CYOA to see if it’s even possible, considering that's the last High Madness option. So much of what was written down does not actually explain anything, and seems verbose for its own sake, beyond even for flavor. And the talent section proves that a lot of what is considered ‘enforced’ by the fiction of the world is not actually true, and can be disregarded. Truly a CYOA that begs you to Sartre it.3/4
>>97705155Cont’d the finalI have been obsessed with the CYOA for the last few days, and I need to put it down. Thank you everyone who played it with me, and best of luck in all you do. Just pick a path who’s vibe you gel with and don’t read too closely. The pricing is fucked, especially Partners and Items. Below is the blank form I used for my building, just put the resources you collect from your selections in the Benefits section at the top or the WKIC purchase selections at the bottom. Which I stole from another Anon. >>97705132 is correct, and my Eyes That Bind build is intentionally Knock and Winter coded.Could have used an editor/10>ORIGIN Benefits Totals: Abyss, Black Emperor, Chained, Darkness, Death, Demoness, Door, Error, Fool, Hanged Man, Hermit, Justicar, Moon, Mother, Paragon, Sun, Red Priest, Twilight Giant, Tyrant, Visionary, Wheel of Fortune, White tower>FATE >The Past >The Present >The Future >BODY >Gender >Traits >STATUS >REGION >SECRET ORGANISATION >Noble Family>Pathway>Age: >Sequence, [x] Convergence Events9th 8th7th 6th 5th 4th 3rd 2nd >Madness>PERKS >Wealth [X] Total, Spent [X] >Knowledge [X] Total, Spent [X] >Influence [X] Total, Spent [X] >Coincidences [X] Total, Spent [X] >TALENTS
>>97705137>The mystery box Above The Sequence option is literally called (You). Where would that stand in hierarcy, not your build, just that "spot" in general. The Radiant Nothing Sefirot. I guess it's a bit hard to say because it can fuse with any other one and still keeps half of all the others.Ah yes, you are, as a baseline, an outer god, but the nature of your sefirot, radiant nothingness, allows you to accomodate the other ones, so it depends, theoretically you can reach the 4 pillar if you accomodate the components, but that's a really bad idea, as you would destroy the universe and then yourself, but as a next best option you can accomodate a pillar, and because of the parasitic nature of radiant nothingness you could achieve this without being possessed by Celestial Worthy/Primordial God Almighty.At that point you are a pillar, so a solid 4, and differently from normal outer gods, who while being able to reach the power of a pillar would never have their special simbolism you would gain that too.
>>97705123>do you want to share your idea?My concept was rebellion or something along those lines, I'm not sure how esoteric I can get with it. Mostly because all the other gods are assholes and being the designiated god killer sounds fun. I know that's not really how gods in LOTM work, but it's still a fun idea to me.
>>97705181>>97705123Oh, and I only read 3 and a half out of the 22 paths, so I have no idea what powers I would use to make it. I am being really slow to read.
>>97705149>There's also no way to get madnesses as far as I can tell.Nta but you can get madnesses from corrupted characteristics, the cultist gained 5 for whatever reason.>>97705181If it interest you the calamity of destruction is the most indicated to kill great old ones. That said taking it has three traps1)The first is that the Original creator put a revival method into it, so the Mirrored original creator, fusion of feminity and masculinity will try to possess you2)The Primordial God Almighty put a revival failsaif method inside it, so you will develop the chaotic face, through wich God Almighty can try and possess you.These two issues largely counteract each other, the second stopping the first from actually manifesting, and being distracted by it3)the protagonist of the second book would normally take it, so by taking it you could send quite a lot of things off the rails.
Cyoas with this feel?
>>97705149> Example from the Seer slate - Buy Sequence 9, 8,and 7 as a batch - this costs 2. then buy Sequences 6, 5, 4, and 3 individually.Tankista spoke against this
>>97705149I was not expecting a cyoa review this detailed as an answer to my post but this unironically helps me a lot. I also noticed many of your points, especially the fact talents are essentially the cheats section, they are all made to bypass some part of the LORE, which actually makes taking as many of them as possible a very good strategy if you don't really like the original setting, as they let you ignore it.I will probably make 3 builds in the order of Modern, Other, Nascent. Not sure I will post any, maybe I will post at least the Modern one.>>97705206So what you're telling me is that this is the one situation where Downstream Protection helps and that becoming a godkiller is already an option? Radiant Nothingness helps with the first 2 problems, and the 3rd is less of a concern for me. So it's worth considering.
>>97696840I was making a build image and it morphed into a strategy guide.>Origin: Mother’s Little Reincarnator>Fate: Past: Hanged ManPresent: DeathFuture: Judgment [+3 Justiciar]>Body:Strong, Faithful, Well-Spoken [-1 Lowmad, +2 Knowledge, +1 Coincidence, +1 Influence] >Status: Noble + Wild Beyonder [-1 Coincidence]>Region: Feynapotter Kingdom [+1 Mother, +1 Justiciar]>Secret Organization: Church of the Earth Mother [+2 Mother, +1 Justiciar, +1 Twilight Giant]Tarot Club [-1 Coincidence]>Noble Family: Castiya [+2 Justiciar]>Pathway: Arbiter>Personal History:Sequence 9: Fortuitous Encounter [-1 Lowmad]Sequence 8: Mundane Acting, Conv: Bounty Hunter, Conv: United in Blood, Conv: Rampager Encounter [-1 Lowmad, +2 Wealth, +3 Influence, +1 Coincidence]Sequence 7: Slow and Steady, Hero Bandit, Conv: Dark Ritual Witness [-1 Lowmad, +3 Coincidence, +2 Knowledge]Sequence 6: Experienced Veteran, Tomb Raider, Conv: Clandestine Nemesis [-1 Lowmad, +2 Wealth, +2 Influence]Sequence 5: Ravages of Time, Card of Blasphemy, Conv: Common Adversity [-1 Lowmad, +2 Knowledge, +2 Influence]Sequence 4: Tenebrous Elder, Ancient Treasure, Conv: Forbidden Lore [-1 Lowmad, +2 Wealth, +2 Knowledge]>Purification:Cure [-2 Mother, -1 Low Madness]>Wealth: 29Potion Ingredients: Chaos HunterHidden Realm (22)Sealed Artifact: Ensouled Carnival; Traveler (12)Sealed Artifact: Code of Damocles (0)>Knowledge: 25Potion Formula: Chaos HunterPotion Formulae: Planter, Doctor, Harvest PriestSealed Knowledge (Free)Pathway Lore x2 (19)Acting Method (14)Mystical Languages x3 (8)Kings of Angels (2)Mystical Rituals (0)>Influence: 28Gathering Invitation (26)Anchors (22)Tacit Agreement (14)Most Secret Organization (9)Bounty Companion: Tiara Robbins (2)Spirit Messenger (0)>Coincidences: 15- True God's Seal: Lilith- Uniqueness: (9)- Sefirot: Nation of Disorder (0)>Talents:Mental CounteractionHuman HeartDownstream ProtectionAnomalous Imprint
>>97705149>There's also no way to get madnesses as far as I can tellCorrupted beyonder characteristic, actually quite common>to a minimum of 1No? 0>So buy your potions in bespoke selections, buy them in batches that get as close to 4 points each, so the purchase only costs 1, for each batch. Example from the Seer slate - Buy Sequence 9, 8,and 7 as a batch - this costs 2. then buy Sequences 6, 5, 4, and 3 individually. This costs 1, 1, 1, and 2 respectively. In total that costs 7 Knowledge. Compared to 17 knowledge if you bought them as a single batch.I would have previously thought batching would work but apparently it's unintentional>We’ve all seen the Time Knife at this pointI mean that type of thing is obvious, everyone runs into one sooner or later>Below is the blank form I used for my buildingI wouldn't recommend actually filling in the benefits like that, you'll run into post limitOnce you learn the setting the cyoa is pretty simple, it's just kind of difficult to read because of how the rules are laid outIt would strangely benefit most from more space and some reformatting, and perhaps some direct opposition that isn't an eldritch god. Someone you could wrestle in the mud with
>>97705132It's the anime art + Chinese influences
>>97705244>and perhaps some direct opposition that isn't an eldritch god. Someone you could wrestle in the mud withNta but pretty much any other beyonder is an enemy potentially, hell potential partners that you don't pick have a big chance of not being friendly. The world has no shortage of people to fight, and the law of convergence makes sure you WILL keep meeting them.
>>97705256Oh yeah, aren't nascent outer deity builds going to have their convergence inflated into the stratosphere from the start?
>>97705234>So what you're telling me is that this is the one situation where Downstream Protection helps and that becoming a godkiller is already an option? Radiant Nothingness helps with the first 2 problems, and the 3rd is less of a concern for me. So it's worth considering.Tendentially killing gods is always possible, with the sole exception of pillars (they can die, and have died, but will always try to reincarnate through their sefira, wich only the original creator or the fourth pillar can destroy), especially Mother Goddess of Depravity (probably because of Chaos Primogenitur, wich is explicitely the reason she's still a pillar even after her sefirot was shattered) who straight up can't be killed.All the other can be killed, and even eaten for greater power, it isn't easy and they will have way to try to return, especially trying to possess those who will take their pillar, but consider that the protagonist killed an outer god three times in the same fight.
>>97705256Yes but there's no romance in betrayal like thatTo underdevelopedThere aren't any fights I want to happen, there's just a load of pain and death to avoid while I slowly climb
>>97705260Theoretically all fake angel should be in that condition.
>>97705244Oh shit u right. Especially on the formatting thing. The Benefits are explained in a section that does not give you benefits. I'm not gonna update my builds. And doubly especially on no one to fight in the mud. You can imagine fighting other beyonders in the middle sequences, but all it takes to guarantee your survival is some coincidence or madness. This CYOA is really, really for those who read the source material, cause without that context this is just a janky build your path to godhood simulator. Except you can't get there within the CYOA, you can only kinda sorta set yourself up for it. So you HAVE to Sartre to get to the actual conclusion of the CYOA. I would award points on the meta claiming your divinity against the rules set up by reality... if I thought that was intentional.
>>97705092>So you are one of those that makes choices as they go?Generally, yeah. I tend to go back and make alterations that better support the concept of the character that has started to emerge.>That's funny, because that was me as you can seekek, this must be what it's like when Beyonders from the same Path keep bumping into each other through no act of their own.
Honestly it is annoying how much the source material is required to reference so you don't set off some hidden lore trap.Modern Day fixes this but also strips any flavor the setting had right out.
>>97705290I appreciate modern day more and more as I learn about the setting, and I say this as someone who loves the novel. Modern day is like heaven in comparison to canon.
>>97705086>Also his best.Objectively, No.Echoes > The Magi Case > Apocrypha > Lamentation > Kins Wolfe > Eternal Blue > Golden Road > Jianghu > Ecclesiastes > Witches n' Inquisitions > Picking A Goddess > Pokemon Personified > Ruins > Regent > Dusk City Troubles > New World / Order > Girls Military
>>97705298>>97705290Modern day is a race to vacant seats, maybe you can do better than the canon gods (difficulty: trivial).5th Epoch is try not to get squished like a bug.
>>97705329>girls military at the bottomWhat the FUCK is your problem
If you're shooting for Goddess of Origin but want to grow afterwards, would it be better to try and find some way to overpower and absorb the MGOD to become a Pillar, or to instead try to integrate another Sefira to become equivalent to a Pillar, like potentially City of Calamity, River of Eternal Darkness, or Knowledge Moore (which the Brood Hive attempted in-story)?
>>97705282>this must be what it's like when Beyonders from the same Path keep bumping into each other through no act of their own.Now I'm curious to see if we end up on the same path too. It's pretty funny when you think of it like that, but in general there aren't that many people here.
>>97705345It would be best to have hot, incestuous sex, as the OC did to produce new pillars with the any of the outer godsNothing has implied there is a limit to this, the original creator only stopped because he was insane
>>97705345The first is the more ambitious option, arguably impossible, I would absolutely go for the second, even if I would probably aim to eat an outer god, rather than a sefirot (that said Brood Hive has good taste, I too would aim to Demon of Knowledge normally).
>>97705345Goddess of Origin is so difficult that if you're not gonna try to eat MGOD to become a pillar, why bother?
>>97705356The original creator created pillars by himself, never with Mother Goddess.
>>97705367Futa superiority over inferior monogenders
>>97705367Oh? then he just made other outer gods?What's the meaningful difference?
>>97705345First option. Go for broke or bust
Do the GOOs care about S1 characteristics? I'd be fine being an Immortal Beauty Goddesss.
>>97705373CW and GA are the OC's schizo personas. They and his first direct creation, MGOD, are the only Pillars that can exist save for the 4th. His other direct creations, Son of Chaos and Mother Tree of Desire, make up his three children. Every other outer dirty that exists is the result of OC having incest sex with MGOD.
>>97705393Yeah. Can't be GOO of a pathway without an S1 characteristic, its uniqueness, and its sefirot. Though they only need one S1 characteristic, while not take all 3? It's best to not trust their benevolence.
>>97705396So the power limit for incest is about 90%, not including special circumstances?
>>97696840After becoming a god, is it fine to spit out your s9-2 characteristics?
>>97705373The Original Creator coupled with "him"self to create the three strongest outer gods: Mother Goddess of Depravity, Moder Tree of Desire and Son of Chaos. After that "he" coupled with Moder Goddess of Depravity to create all the other outer gods.After that "he" went sleeping in the world, creating multiple persona, and our world develooped as in the real one. Our modern era finished when "he" awoke, fragmentating in "his" multiple persona, one for each of the 6 sefira "he" divided in, while also creating the convergence instinct, particularly strong in "his" three direct children, whose sefira shattered and were called to earth.So the three pillars are mother goddess and two of "his" own sefira, the God Almighty and the Lord of Misteries.They are characterized by parts of their simbolisms, specifically each having ownership of a form of the world (sovereign of reality for MGoD, dominator of the astral realm for GA and Lord of the spirit realm for LoM) and having a simbolism shared with the Original Creator (Chaos Primogenous, Maker and Bizarreness).There is also the fourth pillar wich is the end of everything, an hidden pillar wich manifests at the end of the world.
>>97705396>CW and GA are the OC's schizo personasBut if the OC was supposed to contain both good and evil, why are BOTH of them evil?
>>97705437Nta but the OC had a persona for each Sefira, those two were the most powerful and active, and shattered the others to take them, possibly some of them were good.Also the problem is that they're infinitely inhuman, they only think in the parameters of their godhood instinct and convergence instinct tendentially, wich create incredibly self-centered perspectives.
>>97705437GA is good, actually. He has the self sacrifice symbol, which is why he put his own head in the City of Disaster to stop the birth of the OC in the mirror.
>>97705444Let's not pretend it was a selfless act, it was one of his vastly numerous plans to revive after death, and the fact he thought the OC in the mirror dangerous doesn't make that a disinterested action, when we don't even know how he would be.
>>97705441The issue is that these two Sefira are Pillars, which means it was unfairly stacked for them from the first.
So why not revive OC? He is omnipotent for real unlike GA. He might even make a super speshul pathway for you as thanks for not being a dick about his revival. He can just make those ex nihilo after all.
>>97705452He's not completely selfless, of course, but he is by far one of the most benevolent GOOs if we go by their symbols (which are their innate instincts). He has: Order (the justice kind), Sin-Bearing, and (self) Sacrifice. These put him among the top of GOOs in benevolence, only surpassed, to our knowledge, by the Circle of Inevitability who has the symbol of Redemption (of apocalypses).
>>97705456Yes, obviously.>>97705458Because the more powerful you are the more insane you are here, Original Creator was completely mad and out of control, he himself is trying to be reborn in a more controlled form like the mirrored OC.If you helped the mirrored OC to be born it might go better, but we still don't know how he is.
>>97705458Because he is irrevocably insane and contradictory. He might grant you an unfathomable blessing one second and an infinite curse the next, and he has no self control.
>>97705458Because the current Pretender Gods would become big mad and subject you to eons of excruciating torment. Up until the Original Creator wakes up and cleans the board to play again.
>>97705458He wants us to struggle to free himself of the madness somehowAlso I think you get pulled into a single cosmic oneness when he revives(Which is honestly probably the reason he went insane, trying to absorb all those identities)If it were me I could have done a much better job
>>97705407Anyone know?
>>97705462Yes, and yet Circle of inevitability was part of an alliance to destroy the earth, you can't only look at the symbols, especially for a pillar who accomodated more sefira and is completely prey to his convergence instinct. Also the order of the sun is based on his own perception of justice.
>>97705462PGA also specifically entered into a deal with the MGOD, the most evil being in the setting, to help her regain her power.
>>97705407>>97705472Yeah it's fine. You've got all the authorities and status, don't need the other stuff
>>97705475>the most evil being in the settingPersonally I'd say that's Mother Tree of Desire. MGOD was a lot more motherly before her symbolisms got taken, restoring her to her original state would genuinely make her a better person. If MTOD gets her stuff back however she will somehow become even worse than she is now
>>97705473 (me)>Circle of inevitability was part of an alliance to destroy the earthjust to gain more power, had to specify that.
>>97705483>If MTOD gets her stuff back however she will somehow become even worse than she is nowNah, she will regain some temperance.
>>97705483Nta but remember that all of those symbolism belonged to GA too, he accomodated the tenebrous world.Also I think I read that she would gain more control with it.
>>97705348>end up on the same path tooDoubtful but it would be funny if we did.>>97696840Still have some points to spend but not sure on what.Origin: Fake Person (From a Painting)>Wealth, 17>Knowledge, 17>Influence, 17>Coincidence, 20Fates:>The Magician (Past)>The Hierophant (Present)>The Moon (Future)Body: Male>Lucky>Trustworthy>Well-SpokenAge: 30Status: Official BeyonderRegion: Feynapotter KingdomSecret Organization: Church of the Earth MotherPathway: ApothecaryPersonal History:Sequence 9: Apothecary>Imaginary SoulSequence 8: Beast Tamer>Gathering AttendeeSequence 7: Vampire>Gathering Convener>Dark Ritual WitnessSequence 6: Potions Professor>Tomb Raider>Experienced VeteranSequence 5:Scarlet Scholar>Card of Blasphemy>Common AdversitySequence 4: Shaman King>Ancient Treasure>Forbidden LoreLower Madness:>DesirePurification:>LoopholeWealth: 25 -19>Hidden Realm (Painted Worlds)>Forbidden Literature>Affluence x2Knowledge: 29 -23>Pathway Lore x2>Mystical Languages x3>Mystical Rituals>Epoch History x3Influence: 29 -26>Gathering Invitation>Spirit Messenger>BlessedPartners:>Daud Wilt (Assasin)>Marie Etienne (Secrets Supplicants)>Alain Pascal (Listener)>Teale Hawthorn (Polymath)>Antonia Riste (Vampire)>Wilmer Redt (Shaman King)Coincidences: 20Talents:>Eye for Wrongness>Contracts and Honorifics>Guiding Interest>Human Heart
>>97705518>(From a Painting)Higher Dimensional Overseer, your puppet won't trick us.
>>97705362>>97705383It does mean you're doomed to birth the god for the next universe though.
>>97705522lolI was thinking more along the lines of the Painted Worlds from the Souls games.
>>97696840>>97697207>Origin: In Modern Day (25w, 25k, 25i, 0c)>Past, Present, Future: Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fortune (rolled) (+4w)>Total Benefits: Wheel of Fortune 3>Body: Male, Lucky, Strong, Faithful (rolled) (+1w, +1k, +2c)>Status: Dark Trailblazer>Starting Sequence: S9 Monster>Madness: None>Wealth: Beyonder Characteristic(S9-8, S9-7)(used for advancement), Beyonder Weapon(Wheel of Fortune S9-6), Charms & Amulets(Wheel of Fortune), Potion Ingredients(Wheel of Fortune S6-4) (-28w)>Knowledge: Potion Formulas (Wheel of Fortune S8-3) Acting Method, Mystical Languages x2, (-27k)>Influence: Gathering Invitation, Spirit Messenger, (-4i)>Coincidences: Topping Off x2 (-2c)>Talents: Eye for Wrongness, Role Affinity(Wheel of Fate), Aptitude for Anonymity, Human HeartI leave the rest to fate.
>>97705531Wait until you see my autounbirthing plan to artificially inject my consciousness into the unborn Chaos Primogenitor.
>>97705546Three of the same card, invalidAlso, you should specify what's being topped off, as it gives an implication as to the plans that could be unfolding
>>97696840Tankista, if you expand to one page per path please add a rival to each of the paths
>>97705608>Three of the same card, invalidI play Jean-Paul Charles Aymard Sartre in defense mode. More seriously, I'll make an entirely different build later, then.>Also, you should specify what's being topped offSorry about that. The second tier of Mystical Languages and the Beyonder Weapon are both partially paid for using coincidences.
>>97705612Your "rivals" are the existing characters and (if in modern day) anons.
Rolled 65, 81 = 146 (2d100)>>97705546>>97705619Fuck it, I beseech the Key of Light to fix my build.
>>97705619You don't need to be sorry, and I'm only mentioning the rules nitpick because many people seem to be confused about the bookwork of the cyoa
>>97705546>>97705638>Origin: In Modern Day (25w, 25k, 25i, 0c)>Past, Present, Future: Justice, The sun, Wheel of Fortune (rolled) (+4w)>Total Benefits: Wheel of Fortune 3>Body: Male, Lucky, Devious, Faithful (rolled) (+3w, +1k, +2c)>Status: Dark Trailblazer>Starting Sequence: S9 Monster>Madness: None>Wealth: Beyonder Characteristic(S9-8, S9-7)(used for advancement), Beyonder Weapon(Wheel of Fortune S9-6), Charms & Amulets(Wheel of Fortune), Potion Ingredients(Wheel of Fortune S6-4) (-28w)>Knowledge: Potion Formulas (Wheel of Fortune S8-3) Acting Method, Mystical Languages x2, (-27k)>Influence: Gathering Invitation, Spirit Messenger, (-4i)>Coincidences: Topping Off x2 (-2c)>Talents: Eye for Wrongness, Role Affinity(Wheel of Fate), Aptitude for Anonymity, Human Heart
>>97696840In the context of acting for Archaeologist, what do you think the time period is for something to count as a ruin? 10 years of abandonment? 20? 50?Trying to figure out if exploring cold war era abandoned silos and bunkers would count for acting. If you need to explore really really old stuff that could greatly complicate matters.
>>97696840What does this mean? What exactly is it telling me I must do?
>>9770569650. That's the point where a place or object is considered historic in the US, and those things get turned over to state archaeologists.
>>97705703>50My grandparents house was over 300 years oldWhat the fuck are you smoking that something from the year 1976 is a matter of archaeology?You could just ask people who lived there at that point
>>97705702In the wealth section buy some beyonder characteristics.
>>97705710>How old does something have to be to be considered an artifact or site?>According to National Historic Preservation Act, any object or site that is at least 50 years old can be considered historic. The Michigan State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) will record any site that is 50 years old or more.Sorry anon, it's the law. 50 years and it's archaeological.
>>97705715>CanBare legal minimum?
we need a pathway ranking based on acting difficulty in modern day
>>97705715Something 50 years old would never be considered historic in most parts of the world. How does the potion determine what is and isn't archaeology? Aggregate standards of the world at large or that of your local area? If it's the former, then anything pre-1900 should count. If it's the latter, American Archaeologists have it easy compared to everyone else.
>>97705729>How does the potion determine what is and isn't archaeology?It's not the potion. Beyonders have a fragment of the Original Creator in them, which is sapient. It's why they have to worry about possession, and why the Acting Method works. (Also how some of the "dead" Great Old Ones are still active in the setting. They imprinted themselves onto some of their fragments before "dying".)
>>97705711Yeah I figured that would be the case I just wasn't sure what >"to go on top of the final Sequence you're starting at"meant.If I'm 'starting' at S4 does that mean I need to get my hands on an S3 characteristic specifically? Or is it just saying that I'll need to find "real Characteristics" in addition to my Sequence level?
>>97705788I think it's ambiguity in the terms of what is nessesary to advance. It seems some people believe you need beyond your characteristics on top of potion ingredients to secure advancement. I've never read the series and know nothing about it outside of this thread, but my reading of it seems to say that it's not strictly nessesary for most people. The cyoa is terribly vague to me, without clear advancement instructions, outside of hard locking it in with the personal advancement section. At least to me if you get a beyonder characteristic as a fake person, you can lock yourself into reality.
How many threads until discussion about this shit cyoa dies down?
>>97705802Given the reception, a weeks worth, tops.
>>97705802Flopsta cyoas are only held up by about 5 anons samefagging discussion and apparently they're already getting tired of it. Any new OC coming out will shut it down.
>>97696840Can someone link me that lotm browser game?
>>97705802When another cyoa you don't like comes out to replace it.
>>97705866https://sefira.it.com/
There is no escape>>97706005>>97706005>>97706005
>>97706009>There is no escapeSlowly but surely, we'll get out of cyoag
>>97705920Arigato
>>97705238Pretty formatting!
