Badass tank editionPrevious Heresy: >>97684439>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:Have you got any badasses in your army?
>>97696925>>97696888>>97696912I knew it was coming, i have been saying it since 2.0, that its gonna move into the scouring and we are gonna see more armies.I bet everything its gonna be a soft 40k reboot and we will see eldar and orks.
This week's Black Book extract is about the Iron Tenth.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2vyvvrqp/pages-from-the-black-books-the-iron-hands/
>>97696951Badab War nowGive me mk4 and mk5
>>97696951If they don't drop the stupid no sharing models rule I really doubt we're getting Eldar or Orks
>>97696977>custodes get separate 30k & 40k ranges>eldars and orks get separate 30k ranges
How degen is too degen for EC?
>>97697052Anything with actual sex.
>>97696961Whomever edited the pdf is an idiot.Making it harder to read a single page at a time much harder without need.
>>97696961>The second black book came out in 2013
James sure does love a weird arbitray restriction
>>97697151Agreed, were the other ones like this as well?
>>97697159>what do you mean I can't just supplement my army of unkillable combat monsters whose deliberate weakness is being extremely expensive and needing to use vanguard to score with 100 points of line 2 this is unfair
>>97697163Last week was just like that, but at least its 1st page was by itself.All the other Black Book pdfs were fine.
>>97696806Try to use the mkII arms in the kit, but adding the vambraces to make them look mkIII is a good alternative too.
>>97696631This is still mk6, you are clearly not an armour autist like myself.
>>97697186How odd.
>>97696951I'm surprised they didn't announce a new Scouring book, outside of that WB HH novel, Gw haven't annonced any new books this week
>>97697175This argument doesn't work when you can still take them as allies as that still allows you to do that.
>>97697206It really is.The only explanation that comes to mind is that if there's an "page quota" being enforced. I know it's a thing when it comes to their published books, but I wouldn't have expected it on free extracts of already published works.
>>97697192I'm not sure if the regular MkII arms will still work on things like missile launchers or lascannons.
>>97696965GAS THE TAXMAN BADAB WAR NOW
>>97697253>>97696965No anons, as much as i want a badab war, they should never redo it.Badab was a "You had to be there" kinda thing. If they tried to redo badab, it would be a shadow of its former glory, just look at the pitiful attempt they did at Armageddon.
>>97696888Which one comes first, plastic MkV or HH MkVII?
>>97697276mkVII if i had to guessMKV is too knobbly
>>97697221Yeah, because you're rallying combat nutters into your scoring (which is redundant with your own combat nutters), not scoring into your combat nutters (which they are specifically denied having)
>>97697276mkV
>>97696888Meh. I never cared about the scouring and if GW makes the retarded decision to move the wargame to that era too then it's going to be the end times all over again.
>>97696965Have they ever described the performance difference between mkIV and mkVII? Don’t think I’ve seen those specific armor marks compared, it’s usually about the transition between II to III, or how VI had less heavy plating and how V was a mishmash of parts. All I really recall about maximus armor was that it was considered the pinnacle at the time.
>>97697276mkIV
if i ally one of the legions that had mk7 with one of the legions thats willing to steal shit from others could i justify putting a couple night lords in it
>>97697244They won't work but you can still add the mkIII vambraces for a heavier armoured feel.
>>97697352No. mk7 was used during the seige of terra by loyalists.
>>97697276>We are going to get a NU-slop mkVII box with the new scouring BL series
>>97697352My guy I think you can hardly justify mk7 in 30k full stop even if you were to build a SoT army with the legions that had it.>my army is from the end of the heresy>then why did you bring those models to fight on this early hh battle?Not that at the end of the day this matters, just do what you want.
>>97697001I dunno, eldar just got most of their models refreshed, and orks seem to be undergoing the same process. Would GW really create a new 30k-specific range just to prevent cross sharing models?
>>97696951To quote Alan>Xenos are in hiding. The Scouring allows them their revenge. We will not see Xenos in 30K.
>>97697365>>97697352The Dark Angels had all MK marks of power armour, including ones from the future(although those weren't used outside of most clandestine of missions) and ones from the golden age.
>>97697397So the DA get primaris stuff in 30k?
Would it be stupid for a Forge World to have secondary research/manufactorium complexes on a distant mining world? I'm trying to write up basic background for a "traitors invade planet, loyalists defend" campaign.
>>97697397DA did not have mkVII, what is your source?
>>97697403Not really, Sarum had an entire empire pre-WE and Angron meets them on Bodt.
>>97697377>Age of Ruin starter set>MkVII tacticals>castraferrum dreadnought>indomitus terminators>deimos razorbackAs well as a praetor in MkVIII.
My army uses MkIX power armour. They invented it especially for themselves.
>>97697349Doesnt Deathwatch have stats for all the armor marks ?
>>97697403No, go for it my dude
>>97697411The best part? Same five tactical poses.
>>97697429Was that ever in question?
>>97697411>spoilerOnly if it had the old predator design with the open turret.
>>97697352proto-mk7 would be mk7 arms, legs, and pauldrons, triple-vent mk7 backpack, mk6 or 5 torso, and one of the mk7 helmets with chunky tubes or sarum-like visage.
>>97697449>proto-mk7 would be...MkVI, since the MkVII is just the MkVI project finalized and mechanically the two suits are nigh identical.>triple-vent mk7 backpackIf GW weren't completely retarded, they'd give MkVII the MkIV backpack like in 2e. The 40k pack is the M37 pattern, way after the Heresy. But we all know they don't know what they're doing and are likely just gonna make 30k versions of the 40k backpacks instead.
>>97697411They would never make that.That box would be too kino for modern GW to make.
>>97697474Indeed.
Shant be painting my Custodes gold
>>97697382>>97697001Harlequins are kind of SUCK in 40k, but the most relevant eldar faction -if you are sticking specifically to the 30k period-. You could also have Commoraghian raiders, prior to the rise of Vect which would be old eldar noble houses.
>>97697401yes. Time travel.>>97697407they have everything. OG Saturnite. Ironmen constructs. Weapons that wipe out you and all your ancestors from the time line. Sentinent moon sized bot swarms. Every mark of weapon, armour suit, tank etc has been pre and field tested by DA till the Rangdan Xenocide.
>>97697550>Weapons that wipe out you and all your ancestors from the time line.the dreaded meta charges
>>97697550>yes. Time travel.Why? It's not like they can wear that.
>>97697574Those were called Rift Canons. Dreadwing Sacristy had them stored. And the only people that could unleash them were A The Emperor B The Sigilite C Valdor D Lion E Master of the Dreadwing after consulting the Dreadwing council.
>>97697390Dosnt that then literally confrim via Alan himself, from the grave, that xeno will be active during the scouring.
I know that I should not take Samus + hierarch + herald + 9 brutes + 2 true believer legion heralds for tomorrow's 2k gameBut I really want to
>>97697654>It's not like they can wear that.NTA but, what do you think all the robes are for? DA just hide their shit under them.
>>97696951>the doom of valhalla is now retconned to have occurred during the scouring.god I hope they don't make the Iron comet some sort of traitor weapon, GW needs to stop trying to connect everything in modern 40k back to the Heresy
>>97697341I was going to say:>If I wanted to play Marines vs daemonic Chaos Legions, there's 40k already But actual 40k is fucked, so idk.Im more interested in the actual Great Crusade.40k SM chapters vs Xenos yawn30k SM Legions vs Xenos gud. Totally different :^)I don't even know what the Unification wars would be like. Gene-altered Blackshields vs Militia probably. Apparently it lasted 600+ years?! Triple than the Crusade!Good thing we can ignore all that and focus on the mere 8 years of Heresy huh :^^^)
>>97697668>E Master of the Dreadwing after consulting the Dreadwing council.Its fucking Dreadwing its not like anybody on that council will vote NO to using that.
>>97697390Bullshit, even if it's Alan himself. The heresy is PRIME TIME for xenos to attack human colonies, their planets busy elsewhere. This after 200 years of xenocides.The Crusade fought Orks 24/7, and there were more Eldar then than there are in 40k.>No TyranidsRangdan N-vores>No TauInterex-like advanced humans
>>97697759The Eldar were still preoccupied with their own near extinction, the fall wasn't that long ago for them. Dark Eldar weren't even a thing yet.Necrons hadn't woken up on mass yet, the silent king hasn't encountered the Tyranids in the void until the Pharos has them turn to our galaxy.Squats, sorry 'Leagues of Votann' are a fucking joke, irrelevant.Tau can be any advanced alien culture, but Humanity had crushed all the big ones they had found so far. Sure maybe there were a dozen interex like civilizations and I guess you could make that ass pull that were 'just around the corner's in the Eastern Fringe or Halo stars but whatever.Yeah there was always Orks but the big thing about Ulla or is that it was apparently the prime Ork system, they were on the run and I'm sure the Imperial frontier systems, whether or not they declared loyalist or traitor, had strong enough defenses to keep the Orks looking for other prey. Plus the Heresy was only like seven years (it probably should have been longer but hey, they won't change it now). It's easy to imagine that after the GC kicked the shit out of them, it took them a decade to re consolidate
Might as well post this here as well, for anyone who's interested:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SLpiHAFVARnNLToA7HvoGOjTcedE5iWt
>Mid 019.M31>The Iron Cage>Perturabo ascends to Daemonhood before returning to Olympia to establish his 'Iron Empire'.>The two years-long Siege of Olympia begins.Did they invent a whole new empire for Perturabo just so he could immediately have it taken away?
>>97698188>Did they invent a whole new empire for Perturabo just so he could immediately have it taken awayOf course, they have to job to the new, now codex compliant, Imperial Fists Truly guilliman is the smartest and handsomest of the Emperors sons
>>97697079way too icky for the ick marines
>>97698188Its been mentioned before in scouring fluff before iirc, but as one of those throwaway lines.
>>97697862>VotanI didn't mention them.>NecronsI didn't mention them.>TauI specifically mentioned they weren't there. Fuck, I'm not even going to finish reading your comment.
>>97697382>Would GW really create a new 30k-specific range just to prevent cross sharing models?>>97697522This. They could 100% make models based on the older ranges of eldar and deldars, milk that sweet oh so sweeeeet nostalgia
>>97698368Imagine a proteus with an upgrade sprue that replaced the crew and sponsons sprues, coming with bright lance sponsons and shuriken cannons for the hull, as well as big banners and a harlequin commander.
>>97698405>Proteus upgrade sprueWhen>harlequin land raiderWould be a delightful shitfest, but it was a thing in the first place because the LR was one of the few kits they had, made the most with what they had. What I'd love to see instead is a "reimagining" of that; an equivalent harlequin vehicle, that would be a fun experiment
>>97697382also Arhra should be the scorpion's leader in the heresy era, as he only became Drazhar later.
>>97698433I don't think Eldar do heavy land vehicles very well. They're all either slender walkers or slick speeders. Harlies having a looted LR for the shits and giggles is ok in my book.But what I really want is for them to make Land Raiders for SA the same way they made them Rhinos with the Aurox and Predators with the Carnodon.
>>97697862>Dark Eldar weren't even a thing yet.The dark eldar were explicitly already raiding realspace and commorragh predates the fall of the empire, it was Vect and the Kabals that were not yet ascendant in power.>Squats, sorry 'Leagues of Votann' are a fucking joke, irrelevant.Weird statement since it's currently entirely legal to run an army of them.>necrons, tyranidsearly destroyer cults did but they're not relevant. Ideally it would be other aliens like Khrave or Rangdan who were speculated to be active but minor players.>TauWho?>>>97697390What a straight up dumb faggot when Eldrad and the Harlequins are explicitly active in the events of the heresy.
>last bullet point in the timeline is the third battle of a world the Alpha Legion took during the Heresy Dan is gonna get the last word again huh
>>97697697What are they hiding? Arms and legs that are primaris scaled?
>>97698514No a primaris sized cock.
>>97697968how many Badab HH remix are out there? panoptica trannies spawned 2 different version right? and i remember there was one that used to be in the mega that looked really fun
>>97697759Horus started the heresy specifically because xenos were out of the picture, if they weren't, even corrupted, Horus wouldn't have started it.>>97697689Pretty much.
How long was the Great Crusade supposed to go on for after Ullanor? Most of the characters seem to think it will go on for at least a few more decades, if not longer, even though most of the Galaxy was supposed to have been conquered already. Its not like there were that many Xenos left to kill.
>>97698188Maybe the Iron Warriors and Perty will drag their empire into the Warp and Olympia will turn into Medrengard. The Iron Cage was a victory for them after all, seemingly the only major traitor victory during the Scouring.
Aight, simpler and thus much faster to paint than my EC. Iron Hands it is!
Painting the legion symbol and lenses on all infantry.
Would be easier with metal bolters but white looks better, pain to paint umbra bolters in 8mm tho.
The previous standard I went for, definitely not sustainable.
>>97697968I should really get off my ass and finish the liber badab redux update I was working on
>>97698585The IW retreated from Olympia and nuked it after they left. It's not Medrengard.>The Iron Cage was a victory for them after allSorry, it was a draw. The IW ran away from their own trap once the Ultras arrived to tip the scales. Before then they were on track towards mutual destruction with the IF.
>>97698635Those Aux are pure sexDepending on how terrible 11e is I might see if there's any interest in a Badab campaign
>>97698654I’m presuming they’re gonna retcon the shit out of the lore of the Scouring due to how old much of it is. They basically made the Ultramarines a non-factor in ending the Heresy by giving Horus the ability to basically stall them indefinitely. I can see them giving Perty a clean W here.
>>97698555Forever obviously
>>97698520>panoptica trannieskek so many trannies we got the goonhammer trannies too
>>97698555there were other galaxies, like from where the tyranids came from
>>97698483The AL left after taking it tho, the garrison was SoH and WB after that during the second and third battle of Paramar.
>>97698555There were obviously still significant Eldar and Ork holdings, as well as lots of smaller groups and things represented in lore but never with rules, like Hrud. There are areas that are effectively watched and quarantined after various wars, areas that never had human control and about which nothing is known. If anything a couple of decades is probably optimistic given it took 200 years to get to where they were even with ever-increasing numbers of troops, war machines and production.
>>97698654>Sorry, it was a draw. The IW ran away from their own trap once the Ultras arrived to tip the scales. Before then they were on track towards mutual destruction with the IF.Newfag, stop reading retconned lore. OG it was IW victory.
>>97696925<<TQ and themeMy IH Iron Father just keeps winning challanges and suviving crazy odds. He is fuled by nothing but a thunder hammer and 4+ saves mixed with spite. Bless his biter heart.
>>97698812Chapter Master Smashfucker's ancient 30k ancestor.
>>97698785OG it was a lot of things, who cares
>>97698823Smashfucker the First.
anyone know where to get etched brass these days? I'm after some of the detail bits for slapping on my HH models but obviously the FW ones are long OOP
>>97697397
>>97696925This saboteur is still infamous for his reign of terror during HH's first edition.
>>97699245That's a badass short-king you have there.Nice work.
>>97697739What tank is that? Tall turret, central barrel, missile pods on the turret sides. Some like 40k stug?
>experience bleeding for whatever reason>oh cool more finishing pigment to smear on my modelslub me eaters
>>97700233Not a tank, my friend.
>>97698608I'm doing my world eaters with a black bolter casing that works well and fast but obviously we have opposite colour schemes. It might be quicker using light grey instead of white or you could hop on the 1996 vibe and paint the gun casing red (or dark green).
>>97700312Probably a very unpopular opinion, but I really like the SA sentinel walkers.
>>97700388I don't mind them. Not my cup of tea but they're fine. Though if you ask any anon about their opinion on any model, they're 0 or 10 on it.
>>97697408Yes I thought of Bodt even if that's a legion HQ world and the campaign setting just has a small SM garrison. It was really to spice up the world and also to have more possible armies in system. I'm for my own amusement writing the mission cards in classic GW "historical refight" style where they'd have half a page explaining how in the real historical battle Captain Dickus of Ultramar Auxilia and his men got pinned down and couldn't stop the traitor forces from spiking the orbital guns before presenting the mission as normal. Also I tried to think of a gooey hopeful "oh my unity" kind of name for the capital city before saying fuck it and just calling it Laglane City.
>>97698823Love this, will try and come up with a name for him based on it.
>>97700388That's the world's most lukewarm opinion what are you on about,I haven't heard anyone hate the aethons, it's the Hermes that look derpy as shit and with useless weapons
>>97700456Most HH players seem to be "Old good, new bad" fanatics that hate anything that isn't at least 15 years old.
>>97700233It really does look like some sort of tall tank in that mist, doesn't it?>>97700413I wonder, maybe the sentinel would still look right with the legs replaced by tank threads? You know, a Tall Tank?
>>97698483>Third battle of ParamarI...don't remember the second one? Are they sneaking one on me?
>>97700638iirc the second battle of paramar was covered in one of the titanicus rulebooks, loyalists attempted to retake it and failed.>third battle of paramarwasn't that the battle where zhufor from the vraks books fell to chaos?
>Painting been so frustrating lately it was hard to get much done>Brushes been looking rather worn the last year>Finally decide to bite the bullet and order some new, good quality brushes>Painting suddenly goes like a breeze, now spend every free moment getting some painting doneIf only I had known how much difference a good brush would make, would have gotten some ages ago.
>Volkite Chargers don’t glow like plasma going off official paintjobsThat’s pretty convenient as far as painting goes.
>>97696912>Early 019.M31>The Doom of ValhallaI swear to god if they're retconning Valhalla's comet strike to be due to the Heresy...
If they eventually started doing tabletop releases for the Scouring I probably wouldn’t complain if they did pulled a TOW and started releasing old sculpts instead of proper refreshes, but I can’t deny that I’d like to see some of these models get updated.
>>97700668when you get the chance you could try recommissioning your worn ones back into some semblance of usefulness by basically exposing the tips to near-boiling water to have the glue that's anchoring them loosen itself up a little prior to more or less stroking the prepared hair-ends in a revolving circular sort of motion near-parallel against a block of soap to gently bring everything back into nice alignment when everything's nice and saturated with heat before the second step can be a good time to rub them nice and vigorously at the bottom texture of a citadel water pot for instance to dislodge any congealed paint built up at the base of the hairs as welli have like a twenty year ye olde citadel detail brush that i think i managed to spruce back up with said means but its been superseded in use by newer ones
I used to run a tactical support squad with volkite calivers in my DG since they were heavy and I got to move and fire with them. Under HH3.0 would it make more sense to run them as a veteran heavy support squad to Implacable Advance with them? I realize this is a more expensive unit, but I'm just not seeing a worthwhile use for them.
>>97700819Nah just keep playing them as a regular TSS. Implacable Advance is only useful when a unit is likely to charge, and with 30" range there's no need to get close with volkite calivers.VSS are funnier with something like meltaguns, where they will be close enough to charge and double tap targets with meltas.
Anybody got a source for some nu-scale mark 4 marines? Tortuga bay has every mark but 4 and I don't know where else to look. And I'm not going to wait for the nebulous 'soon' when GW releases them.
>>97700866you could proont or have these guys proonted maybei actually kind of like 'em, would use if i had any want for maximus niggers down the linenot a lot else is showing up in a quick glance through some telegram channels in the way of all that passable stuff in my eyeshttps://gofile.io/d/mZOiOx
Trying to see if I understand how Apothecaries work with the Medic! reaction. Say 6 wounds get through to my unit of one wound models. I make six 4+ recovery checks to try and save those models? Do I need to slow roll them or allocate them to specific models first (in the case where the wounded models are different)?If my unit was made up of models with two or more wounds, I would have to slow roll since each model can only make one recovery test?
>>97700912You indeed gotta slow roll most of the time. Each model only gets to make one recovery check before it is removed as a casualty basically, and it only reduces damage by 1
Just noticed the nu shield captain doesn't have a sentinel blade and they haven't shown it with a spear, which sucks if you are currently building an army using the old ones
Going to do some SoH. What do you lads think would make a good base or body to start kitbashing from? I already used the Mkii Centurion for my IW.
>>97701073Don't care what people say, I love these models.
>>97701084I'm going to use both new and old ones
Maybe GW will blow our minds and will release marks IV, V and VII with 5 NEW POSES!
>>97701145>they're mirrors of the existing poses
world's tiniest ledge for the world's smallest salaryman
>>97700446damn bro drill your barrels
>>97700912So Medic! is really weird.You allocate wounds in step 9 of shooting, but make the recovery tests in step 11.If you have 4 2W models and an apothecary and 6 2 Damage wounds go through...1. You allocate a wound to each 2W model (4 of the 6).2. You allocate a wound to the apothecary (5 of the 6)3. You now stop allocating, as all of your models have "died". The 6th wound fades off into the ether.4. At step 11, before removing models, you make a Recovery test for each of the 4 non-Apothecary models. if they pass, the damage is reduced by 1 and you do not remove them.5. The apothecary dies because they can't take their own Recovery test.No need to slow roll except at the point of making the Recovery Tests and that's only to track which models pass. If I were playing you, I wouldn't mind you rolling 4 dice and removing the N fails instead of slow rolling.
>>97701167Honestly not the worst thing
rules for deploying terrain?
>>97701073Is it me or does that model only have a female bare head? I don't think they're shown a male head for this but I could be wrong.
>>97698454>LR equivalent for SauxCould always commission sir Edgar
>>97701759Still need rules for it.
>>97697731Literally the only reason they're doing any of this shit is to reinforce their shitty retcons of Cawly Sue and the Primarishart Project, validating the False 40K they now excrete by forcing it further and further into the past until the original, untainted version of the IP is wiped from memory.Why would they stop doing what is their sole purpose?
>>97700732the recent MTO classic metal captains had me wishing they weren't slightly under-scaled and in Mk7, because they're beautiful. That old pre-Tycho BA captain doesn't even have the drawer full of receipts stuck on with fridge magnets that later captain sculpts seemed to universally receive. Perfect for HH. And that one bald dude in the mk7 with the bionic leg! If it wasn't mk7 he'd be perfect. Such great one-piece molds, so much character even though they're essentially static poses. Ah well.
How customisable are the poses of the new Mechanicum bots and how fiddley are they?Are they like the plastic Dreadnoughts or are they more limited?
>>97700573Incorrect. We have anything that doesn't feel as if it could be at least 15 years old. The SAux sentinels could easily have been resin models done by FW as a range expansion back in the day.Downgrading the detail on the plastic infantry, redesigning classic PA marks, all the very ROUND shit they keep pushing - that's the stuff that makes us strap on the bomb vest and start looking forward to our 72 virgins(yes they're probably also autistic men rather than hot women, but it'd be the best wargaming club ever).
>>97702055*we hate, fucksake that's twice in a row I've done that today I think I might be having a stroke.
>>97701073Shield captains have always had rules for using paragon blades, unless you're some kind of 40k shitter
Question for you knowers: am I to believe that all of the World Eaters became completely psychotic killers after they got their Nails installed, or did that happen over time as their condition worsened and Khorne started corrupting them? Either way, while they have special melee units to fit their theme, wouldn't that leave them unable to do more complicated work and as such have certain units not fit thematically/lorewise? I realize that 40K Berserkers are not the same thing as the Legion as a whole, but it feels like they're being Flanderized a bit as time goes on.
>>97700866Tortuga has Mark IV, what are you waffling on about
>>97701073>hides the worst partSHOW THE LEGSSHOW THE SHINS
>>97702174Moshi moshi.
>>97702224no amount of vulkanmans is gonna preserve our sanities from this one
>>97702203>tortugaew gross.
>>97702174>FlanderizationYes, lorelets flanderize the World Eaters1. Implantation of the entire legion wasn't accomplished overnight. Legion wide implantation didn't begin until after the Ghenna massacre and the internal purge of Centurion Mago and his mutiny.2. The legion didn't turn into drooling psychos overnight either. Individual legionaries responded differently to the nails, and degenerated at different rates. The absolutely fucking insane ones were sent to the Caedere or put down. The unreliable ones were concentrated into assault units. Stable & reliable officers and legionaries assumed command and were placed into tactical roles. Everyone however suffered symptoms of neural degeneration, and struggled to maintain control. When the legion retreated from Terra it was still functional but heavily degraded and steadily getting worse.Pic related is a must read if you have actual interest in this topic. It's set during the world eaters' retreat from terra into the eye. The legion is leaderless and the sane officers are trying to keep it together while arguments and infighting begin to break the legion apart. Must read for WEchads.
>>97702286>blinged out as fuck model>just copy unadorned stormcast legs
>>97701194Bro is LOADED. I bet he even has running water :O
>>97702286I don't even know why why autists are freaking out so much about reee plain legs when by far the worst part of these dogshit models are the terrible helmets. Jesus christ they look so stupid.
>>97698618Kino, the simpler guys look great too
>>97702292What do you prefer? I'm always open for good alternatives!
>>97702295>>97702174Also same thing with worship of Khorne. It wasn't overnight, and it wasn't universal. The "Crimson Path" and veneration of "The Brazen Lord" began at some point during the heresy and it was another source of internal tension between the sane and the degenerating. Adoption of completely red armour wasn't universal. There were still dudes wearing mixed White & Blue and White & Red after Terra.
>>97702286It would have been so easy just for them to use the old legs.
>>97701073yeah but how did you not notice it's a troon?
>>97700284Painting with blood is a very slaneeshi thing to do, actually
>>97701528>5. The apothecary dies because they can't take their own Recovery test.They change Zealot into Hatred, then Hatred in +1 to wound for simplicity...and remove the Chaplain's Hatred.Then they add Medic reaction. Eh, it is what it is.
>>97702292tortuga is based
>>97702356Based>>97702286Literal stormcast Zzz
>>97702356>no trigger on gun>42% death rate before battle
>>97702295>and the internal purge of Centurion Mago and his mutiny.To be honest, that purge pretty much deleted anyone who was against the nails. Only specialists didn't take the nails (someone needed to keep Land Raiders operational). Even Kargos got the nails, and he's an apothecary.I headcanon that Nails reward aggression (addiction) rather than decrease all other non-aggression brain functions (depression + retardation). But it's headcanon.
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>>97702356>no trigger on staff that is now absurdly unbalanced and also bent slightly in the middle>staff weapon also just looks like a low quality mass production instead of an artisan piece>helmet is 50% taller, top knot is 6 times the volume and is also on a stick instead of just in the helmet>swords still look retardedThe legs are the least of the problem
>>97702379the trigger is on the end of the power pack at the bottom of the blade/gun assembly; it's a push button, so the idea is instead of the current lever arrangement, the user straightens the haft to aim and naturally brings one hand forward to push button; it's neither better nor worse than the big lever (which is also repeated on the Deathwatch Watch Master), because although button is silly, big lever has no obvious safety so they should be going off a lot with every swing just from centripetal force on the lever, and the lever also gets in the way if you're trying to use the full stave length for polearm purposes>>97702141yup>>97701073if it's not a paragon blade, it's a different upgradeto be honest the replacement of sentinel blades with sentinel blade but melta, sentinel blade but etc was kind of uninteresting
>>97700312They should have made a melee version with big gorilla arms mounted on the missile pod hardpoints
Do you think applying a second thin airbrush primer coat 11 hours after the first?I Or does it need to dry for ages like rattle can?
>>97700597>legs replaced by tank threadslil silly thing
>>97702678There appears to be a number of words missing there. But before you bother to actually say what you mean in full do keep in mind that not every airbrush primer is the same, and nor does every sue case have the same demands. An acrylic coat may be good enough for Bob to do what he wants three hours later, while there are car model builders who count the curing time in months.
>>97702702Needs a firing port on the glacis with a laspistol hand sticking out.
>>97700388They don't look ugly but having tall ass walkers really didn't fit the SA. Back then it really looked like a choice made to reel in 40k guard players that left 40k and the changes that followed kinda cemented my opinion.
>>97702702>>97702726
>>97702678Depends on the brand.I use vallejo airbrush primer thinned 50/50 with their airbrush thinner. They recommend waiting 12 hours for the primer to cure (which I do before moving onto the next painting steps). During priming though I've never had any issues giving the model a 2nd spray about a minute or so after the 1st. If I see a little spot I missed or an area that didn't get full coverage I just wait until it looks dry then hit it again, no need to wait for everything to cure.
>>97702723>There appears to be a number of words missing there. But before you bother to actually say what you meanYou clearly understood the post, what kind of grammar nazi starts a sentence with but?Obviously I meant acrylic do assume everyone in the Horus Heresy general is painting a 1/72 Ferrari F40 with Humbrol
>>97702308The helmets often look intensely conical in art depictions but the top knot is completely ridiculous. Giraffestodes
>>97702702Moved the threads further up. Which one looks better? Or less worse in this case lol
>>97698555space is 3d not 2d, even if you kill 'known xenos' in known space lanes there would be clusters of unexplored regions full of them.
>>97702786>>97698555I heard the halo stars are still unexplored to this day. Same for some "Veiled Region", wherever that is.Idk how the galactic map says there's stuff beyond the reach of the astronomicon. How do they even navigate there? They just don't.Even Macharius didn't go there.
>>97702369painting with cum, or putting perfume on your models, or making capes for your guys out of silk, or mixing gold flakes into your paint, or fitting a little ipod to play music into your vehicles are all very slaaneshi things to do.
Has anyone tried playing HH with LI models?
>>97702778Neither of them look good enough to be called better
>>97702802Imperial expansion is mostly reconquests of known space, there is no reason to invade unknown space where no humans are known to live because there's no clear indication of anything being there.Even speculated alien empires like the Khrave and the Worm That Walks have not been found despite their potential threat to the imperium because explorator fleets have no reason to go deep into unknown space looking for alien empires that might not exist.
>>97702821The entire galaxy was settled by humans, as back then the warp didn't need an astronomicon to get navigated. Post-Slaanesh, those places got stranded. Macharius added 1000 of those worlds that the Crusade did not ever reach. They weren't imperial and then lost - they just had never been imperial at all.To this day, DAoT worlds can still be discovered, it's just that they're mostly on the very borders of the Astronomicon's reach.Or above/below the galactic plane, apparently. So, very far out of the way.Like Vermont.
>>97702786There's actually a dwarf galaxy just sort of floating off the shoulder of the milky way. If a xenos species had non-warp ftl or near light capability they'd have a whole bastion the Imperium would never reach
>>97702834>The entire galaxy was settled by humans,Like most sci fi writers, I think you're underestimating how LARGE and 3D the galaxy is. The parts of the galaxy that could be feasibly settled by humans, were settled by humans. But the million worlds of the imperium are dwarfed by the sheer number of planets and stars that exist in the total galaxy. It's not like a landmass where you can easily have your drones just flyby even antarctica and kamchatka.1000 worlds is literally nothing.
>>97702839it's funny because halo had a whole forerunner sister species that split off and was living there in anarcho primitive liftstyles.
>>97702850343i fluff is about as valuable as BL fluff.
>>97702753Ty anon :))). I also use Vallejo airbrush primer but white that sometimes needs two coats.
>>97702834The age of strife and dark age of technology were happening during the height of the Eldar's empire, there's no way humans colonized the entire galaxy under their watch
>>97702174>>97702295In "The Face of Treachery" you get to see a World Eater captain who has the implants and though he still kinda seething-out from time to time, he retains enough control to maintain command of his vessel and oversee a small fleet of ships.I think that's cool.
>>97702850If the forerunners were meant to be the Jjaro this would make no sense so I can safely forget it.
>>97702834>The entire galaxy was settled by humansWhat happened to all the aliens in it, like Eldar who were the dominant race at the time?>as back then the warp didn't need an astronomicon to get navigated.You don't need an Astronomican today, just like you don't need a compass or a map. It just makes it easier and more reliable. Early human expansion was slow and dangerous, but we had thousands of years to do it.>it's just that they're mostly on the very borders of the Astronomicon's reach.Even the Imperium is very thinly stretched across the galaxy with thousands of lightyears between Imperial sectors. The galaxy is far from fully explored. You don't have to go to the periphery to find something new, there can be whole empires hiding between Imperial sectors that have yet to be discovered because travel there is difficult or dangerous.>>97702846>1000 worlds is literally nothing.Macharian Crusade was said to be the biggest conquest since the Great Crusade, so it's not exactly nothing.
>>97702846>underestimating how LARGE and 3D the galaxy is.It isn't really feasible to take that size into account since we're discovering more and more stuff year by year. Gaia just finished its mission and cataloged like 2 billion stars which ends up being like holding your hand up to a car's windshield. You can't even describe the size of space without corny similies like that
>>97702891Nta but 40k really makes it a point that the Imperium had around a million worlds, if you consider that most times the imperium is on the defensive slowly losing ground then it would stand to reason that close to the entire millon and more was conquered during the crusade, lost during the heresy and what was left recaptured during the scouring. It's hardly big when compared to that.
>>97702846>1000 worlds is literally nothing.Anon, that IS what I said. You're gaslighting me, is that really not what I said? There are indeed a gazillion worlds out there to contact......and among them also lie horrors, xenos warrens, uncontacted human empires and whatnot.The Imperium was stable enough that Horus could launch his rebellion, but it is foolish to say the galaxy was "already won" and that's the reason there should not be rules for xenos in the 8 years of heresy where there was 200 years of crusading against those very things. Both things can be true.
>>97702887Honest question, why can't they be the Jjaro? I did not play Marathon, released for... "Mac in Tosh"?
>>97702891>>97702884>How did humans create a galactic empire before the Imperium, if back in the day Eldar were the dominant speciesAnd apparently there were also far more orks than the still huge numbers of 40k. Yeah I also don't know, anons. I am told it was so, but I cannot explain how it happened.Even if it wasn't a unified empire, there's human DAoT in several places all across the galaxy, meaning there were humans all across the galaxy despite the Eldar and Orks and Old Night horrors being all across the galaxy.
>>97702816There might be a way to make the Aethon Sentinel into a tank, but I don't know how to.
>>97702944My first thought would be dlipping it onto its back, making the guns face "up", relocating the optics, and turning the viewport into a periscpe.
>>97702964But what about the central cannon? It'd be facing upwards instead of front
>>97703002Yeah point the guns up so that when you flip it on its back they face forward and you have a little assault gun.
>>97702910Because the Jjaro weren't a single race insomuch as a bunch of gods part AI part organic, ascended from different species. If you took the AI part away like it gets referenced happening in one of the marathon 2 terminals then you would just get different species.
>>97702944Now do that to knight.
>>97703043Probably best to use sn arquitor's treads for that
>>97702415No I dont mean "literal rules" I mean "what are the principles for good terrain deployment"
>>97703066Talk to your opponent about it
>>97702778I like the 2nd one. >>97702944THe tracks here are too big imo. >>97702702And I dont understand how the tracks are attached here.
>>97702369the nails can bestow rapturous bliss just as readily as they do painit's not commonly recognized, the line that the eaters seem to straddleand khorne/slaanesh really is the way to go about it even if it appears dissonantit's not and it's obvious
>>97702886>I think that's cool.It would seem no one else here did lol Let this be a lesson anon, never fucking speak up again. Lurk, and stfu. Thank you.
>>97702921There's humans across the galaxy in 40k as well, along with orks and various alien empires between. The Emperor didn't expand the Imperium randomly. There certainly were maps and charts of human colonies and during the Age of Strife Mars did send ships out into the galaxy (very few returned), so there were record of some colonies. The smart play would've been to find all the colonies first before any hostile aliens did. Even all the primarchs ended on human worlds across the galaxy.
>>97703140Trying too hard.
>>97703013Allegedly forerunners could mutate from one another so much they'd look like different species. Precursors even more so.
>>97703140Your reply has less worth than your life.
>>97703043Humanoid torso, tracked body. That's legally a Centaur, right?
>>97703211I LOVE THESE LITTLE GUYS!!
Destrier and plastic Armigers in Adeptus Titanicus/LI when?
>>97703246>Destrier and ArmigersWhat role would the fill?
>>97703270More things to kill
>>97703270Armigers are already in the game so...the purpose they fill nowDestriers look sick and would therefore look cool and that is enough of a purpose. >Nuh uh! They don't look si-Hang yourself, contrarian-anon
>>97703246>40k Not-lancer so we can keep the lancer as 30k only>except it's small with stubby guns like it has erectile disfunctionGas Jew Jerkshop
>>97703286>Hang yourself, contrarian-anonBut I do think they look sick
>>97703270Worse Cerastus Knights.The Horus Heresy knights are 100% getting removed from 40k in 11th>>97703289Why do we care if 40k can't play with our stuff?I love watching Ad-Mech babies cry over the fact they get terrible models compared to the Mechanicum.
>>97703246>destriersHopefully never.
>>97703309See the final line of >>97703286 :3
>>97703140
>>97703301>Why do we care if 40k can't play with our stuff?It's the principle of the matter
>>97703270>>97703286They're knights and didn't stuck to the babysiter-needed rule of Armiger. But Armiger Warglaive thermal spear and the extra melta still make them way stronger unit.
>>97703286If the only thing I can think of is how I want to change a bunch of things, do I like the model or am I just caught up in shiny new product?
>>97703341>Want to change a bunch of thingsI only want Armigers to switch from FW resin to plastic>or am I just caught up in shiny new product?Yeah? I don't play 40k or large scale Heresy, but I play a shitton of AT and want the cool new Knight I love the look of but will never get a chance to use otherwise. (You) fucking idiot.
>>97703360Anon I'm asking if I like the model if the only thing I can think of is how I want to rip the bits off and stick different ones on.
>>97697052
>>97703311I think you will have to Jeffrey Epstein myself, anon.
>>97702608I don't see no push button, post a closeup of it. Either way still retarded design.
>>97703140Seethe harder fagitron.
How much nurgle was there in the death guard before the siege of terra?
>>97703661Very little only in Calas company.
>>97703292Unhang yourself
tactical squads my beloved.....post what you're working at or last finished up if u like!
So I'm fluffing up my Ligma balls Iron Hands army idea and I'm thinking they're a small extermination fleet working together with surviving solar auxilia and ordo reductor to go around exterminating traitor worlds vital for supply. What tanks and knights are most thematic for "Fuck you, exterminating you down to the atoms"?
>>97703816not much
From MKII to MKVI, are power armour mark components interchangable?I seem to remember that old lore never allowed it, but now I keep hearing that it's actually fine?
>>97703845Nice BA anon!
>>977038622-6 are essentially completely interchangeable in the hands of a sufficiently adept technician though varying segments of the plate may introduce awkwardness in operation without meticulous tuning
>>97703862Helmets, backpacks and shoulder pads are shown to be readily usable across marks, which makes sense. There's legion variants of helmets as well as several helmets for specialists. Allowing units to keep using old helmets on newer marks or adopting new helmets for old marks seems reasonable. Same with backpacks. What good is adopting a new armour mark if it means you have to swap out all your jump packs and other specialist packs as well? Shoulder pads are just armour plates on articulated servos underneath, so there shouldn't be anything special about one design over another.As for actual armour components, MkIII is just an upgraded MkII, so the two should be readily interchangeable. MkVI-VIII were build on the MkIV design, so all those marks should also be quite interchangeable with one another. V is special in that it used the MkIV construction but MkII/III cabling and other components, so structurally it might be compatible with MkIV and VI+, but systems wise compatible with MkII and III.
>>97703908You can bubba anything with the right tools. The old MkIV power weapons set and champion models show MkIII style extra torso front (PW set) and extra leg armour (champion) fashion on MkIV power armour.
All armor marks are compatable with each other, all you need is superglue
>>97703970Even the new marks?
>>97703979Yep
>>97703970>superglue
>>97703994Are you unfamiliar?
>>97703994>superglue can't adhere to plastic
>>97703816Some (very) last minute stuff for an event tomorrow.
>>97703845god's ittybitty-est terminators>>97704040that's quite a few rapier carriages anon holy shit lmaopreponderance of thams too how very brutal
>>97702366Not sure if it's a troon or not but I'm pretty sure you are a retard
>>97704064>that's quite a few rapier carriages anon holy shit lmaoThats half of what im using (also four bolter rapiers). I own 6 laser rapiers, but I cut down for variety.
>>97702907>You're gaslighting me, is that really not what I said?Calm down bpd man.
>>97703970Post proof or fuck off
>>97704078In my defense theyre from 2e, where terror assault had very limited heavy support slots
>>97703845Should've been White Scars on the rooftop.
>>97704078jesus christ how horrifyingthey're pretty rad models and i like the concept of them but they fall a little short for inclusion in the teeming infantry horde i'm largely going for where i want the general rate of potential advance to be as uniform or exceeding as can be musteredstronk units as best my reading goes though for sure
if GW wanted to add aliens to the scouring/late great crusade but didn't want people to instantly use those models in 40k, besides orks, squats and eldars, because of system crossover autism, they should add in races like the Laer or the Yu'vath that are extinct in 40k.
>>97704152nah mane we need some deep throes of the great crusade shit, wind the clock right backeven if they'll never do it
Is Legions Imperialis as bad as it seems? Between the morale forcing your hordes of dudes to run away towards the board edge, the list building and the gimping of Knights/Titans the game seems pretty "meh" honestly
>>97704152Need me some Hrud
>>97704173the models just have so little surface area to dote with love and detail with pretty much the sole exception of titans and aircraft and maybe knights but their fuller counterparts are over the moon with size and said potential anyhowsome love the shit out of it anyways and i respect its larger scope a lot
>>97704212I was asking about the rules, not the models. Hence why I mentioned morale and such.
>>97704226hobby > game, yo
>>97704232ok buddy(You)
>>97704212The morale is, indeed, fucking cancer and ruins any sense of enjoyment the game might have possessed.
>>97704250 meant for >>97704173
>>97702815Too fiddly.What works great actually is getting a bunch of the better detailed Epic STLs and printing them at 15mm scale. Get some appropriate terrain, but play on the same size board as normal. Half the size of templates, unit coherency, and anything with an area of effect/aura/ability range, but leave the rest of the core rules intact(eg if a gun shoots 24" and if you hit does a template, it still shoots 24" but now uses a smaller template; if your psyker as a power with a range of 12" that then effects an area of 6", it still has a range of 12" but then an effect of 3" etc etc - you're accounting for reduced base size, essentially). Individually base models, but with little magnets in and make mini movement trays so you can move around 5 infantry at a time easily but still come off when you need to interact with terrain or go into melee.Legitimately a superior way to play the game. More space to maneuver means transports are useful as more than an extra armour save for units you want to throw into melee asap, fast movers are more useful in general, you can cram on loads of terrain and still have more free space. Game feels a lot more...kinetic. That said I haven't tried it with 3.0 because I hate that and won't sully my table, but it worked in 1.0 and 2.0 so I see no reason why it wouldn't keep working.
I have a desire for a mixed warband of heretical but loyal blackshields using the broken helix (abberant) and legacy of nikea, following an ancient prophecy of the crow (vet assault), horse (praetorian bikers), and bear (saturnine command squad) saving the imperium from itself, each oathband led by three psykers that left their legion following the call. The one problem is I really want to use that one badass primaris RG model as a base for the crow witch, but I have no idea how I'd make it fit
>>97704323are you talking about that dude on the rock with lots of scrolls or whatever draping around?
>>97703862I was under the impression that the Heresy pattern was the equivalent of “rummaging through the bits box” to put together suits of armor while the Mk 6 and on are made to be compatible to modifications.
>>97704334Yeah, the loadout and vibe is perfect but it's so obviously primaris that I don't know where to start with de-converting it
>>97702921DAoT era humanity is described as basically having tech on par with magic. In Horus Rising the human empire they collapsed at the start of the book and tech and power on par with the Imperium (though lacking Astartes) and the Great Crusade was strong enough to run wild on the galaxy, so I imagine Orcs wouldn’t be too much of an issue to DAoT humanity. Eldar are also the stereotypical elves that see dealing with humanity as below them and could actually avoid them with the, at the time still intact Web Way.
>>97704342my eyes are pretty liberal on this matter so maybe where i'd take it wouldn't be sufficient for the sensibilities of others, buti'd actually regard the better part of his armour to be reasonably inoffensive on the whole if it were just used to portray some high-ass artificer plate with a refractor field or whatever and suchtwo sticking points:the helmet he comes with is totally verboten. it is primaris sloppa but swapping it out with another is effectively effortlessprobably the main aspect you'd have to contend with are those dopey looking circular components on his ankles, four of them with two on each leg and i'd go about it by basically cleaving them off in alignment with the rest of the greave as best i could and filling in the gap with putty and trying to scalpel down the more altered areas to the point of cleanliness and congruence with everything else going on, more putty could help easilybeyond that i think he's pretty kosher with even his jump rig being pretty passable as a bespoke specimen even amidst the heresyall in all this is not too extreme a conversion that might well make him nice and further at home in hhbut those circular bits on the ankles would absolutely have to be dealt withi could handwave almost everything else personally
>>97703840Did Ligma get Disintegrator weapons already?
>>97704342>>97704373oh woopsfill this in toothe again circular portion is primaris-coded and unacceptable
>>97704399The backpack is pretty cleanly separate from the rest of the body, so you shouldn't have problems slapping, say, the MkII jump pack on him.
>>97704431also an option but one he's provided with seems pretty utterly tailored to sit amidst the feather cape so i'm not sure how much effort would be required to get another make fitting nicelyas it is, it looks a lot like a jacked up mk.iv wine barrel thruster with almost mk.vi looking intakes and that doesn't strike me as all that far out of acceptability whatsoever save the little circular shit at the top
>>97704466steal 40k's shit and convert and deface it into heresy congruence as desired errday
>>97704399Just put a smoke launcher on that, ez>>97704431
>>97704088
>>97704562Based blackshields anon
>>97704173It has to compete with its predecessor which was much better so sure.
>>97702815Yes, it helps that in 1.0 most infantry is 1W.
>>97704697Epic?
>>97704886ebin
>>97704562Ugly
>>97703109Nonsense. My life for Nurg'leth and his resplendent garden.
>>97702805Painting with blood, cum, and shit. Not in that order
>>97705166post models
>>97705166There are several lines of models that are specifically designed to be ugly that are quite popular.
>>97702295One concept from that novel I really like is the Bloodborn. World Eaters who have given in to the legion's iconic fatalism after seeing all their true brothers die on the walls of Terra and made a khornate death oath to complete one last mission. I actually the other day I wrote something up about a pre-khorne Betrayer era WE version of them like its a long standing 12th legion tradition as a fluff insert/infobox for a homebrew scenario in a small tree campaign I'm working on >Before being unleased these warriors swear their final fatal oath to the brothers of their newly formed ad-hoc squads vowing to complete their assigned tactical objective and giving their final statements before sealing the oath paper to their battleplate and silently completing combat preparations. Those who follow Nucerian gladiator traditions add a cut or definite end to their triumph rope tattoos.“Once I brought light to a scattered humanity – Now I burn” >excerpt, death oath of Legionary Korkhan. Killed attempting to storm a Legio Lysander sally vault as part of spoiling attacks behind enemy lines in opening hours of Armatura
>>97705241kinotastic
>>97703286>Destriers look sick I don't really like the head armor. leans too much on the historical knightly armor aesthetic for what I want out of my imperial knights. hopefully you can build it with a bare head, like the questoris
>>97705759
>>97703270Between Questoris and Armigers in endurance and cost, but faster bursts of movement, shit has rockets up its ass. Still would've preferred something like dedicated yeomen models for either game.>>97703301>spoilerUnless they do one for Chaos Knights, yeah they're getting fucked the most out of that.
>>97703286>And GW's most loyal slop eating pagpig rewards goes to...
>>97705847take your meds, anon
>>97704562It makes sense that it was blood bowl-anon defending armor mixing. I personally only mix mkII with III and mkIV with V and VI. Some of your kitbashes are cool tho, have you ever mixed terminator marks?
>>97704152King fluff already did this in 1.0 with fan dexes, he made rules for laer and other great crusade xeno factions.
>>97704201>Play Hrud>All metal army>It rusts away and you lose turn 1GG
>>97704399Yes disgusting, and I presume the very same primaris designers added round bits to the arms and shins of nu-mkII.
>>97704212>the models just have so little surface area to dote with love and detail with pretty much the sole exception of titans and aircraft and maybe knights but their fuller counterparts are over the moon with size and said potential anyhowIn Epic personalisation aspects comes from your list building choices and if you want to convert shit you have vehicles.
>>97704342Shrimple, its personalized artificer armor.
>>97704323>primaris
>>97705956one of the very few examples if perhaps the single one where it's reasonably possible to pretty much undo the identifiersthe rest are completely irredeemably fucked by design to such an extent that it's entirely out of the question>>97705919the mk.iis do not have it all that bad in the grand scheme i'm happy to say and it can be entirely undone with a little work if one wants
at least on the legs anyhowi personally don't mind the little round bits at the elbows on the iis and iiis it's just nice and sturdy plating overlaying the articulation of the anatomy to my reading
knees get a pass too at least to methat is a pretty decent place for a little circular plate of armor to seal everything up and work in tandem with the range of motion of a legthe ankles on primaris stuff drives me fucking insane it's just so goddamn grossi feel like a nazi eugenicist about this shit fr
How do I unsubscribe from this sub-human pr*marine bits user's blog
How many of you with these tokens painted them up? Not sure what to do for suppressed in particular.
>>97705992you don't, be a grown man
>>97706004i started painting them, i need to finish them, they're actually useful (and a necessity if playing mechanicul)
>>97706008
>>97705992what is wrong with some primaris parts? they have great looking chainswords, helmets and shoulder pads. I wouldn't use the bodies as those do look kind of a wierd. But the rest is okey.
>>97706004Spend like an afternoon painting these things, really worth the effort.
>>97705992i'm guilty of using a recast apothecary's lamp and one of the servo-armed saws on a 30k model and that is literally itthis is all sheer speculation at what could be brought into compliance with hh and there is pretty much only that RG model that could ever be modified into the slightest shade of proper kosher, i was not able to find a single other example where it's not fucked to shit by virtue of the knees >>97706008>>97706018brb having a stroke not really tho i don't care quite that much do what you like
>>97704886Yes, armageddon to be more specific as close to no-one still plays 2ed.
>>97706008Nta but being a grown man is the opposite of being lazy and it's not like it takes much to be accurate to the time period. Jfc this is like all those rich people that can't stop diddling kids.>>97706018Because those are patterns that wouldn't exist for another 10k years. It's the exact same reason on why we aren't using primaris armour and why FW did resin packs forr different 30k patterns of things like bolters and heavy weapons instead of just saying >use the 40k things
Speaking of tokens, what are people's opinions of them? Personally been enjoying them quite a bit, even considering to get some tokens made for things that weren't included in the the token set, like Phage debuffs and such. But also know some people who will complain about having to bring anything besides models (yes, they did complain about having to bring dice and a tape measure for 40k)
>20 man mk3 despoiler squad>airbrush a beautiful blue>grey>white base coat>just need to brush paint the joints black nowAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>97706199Cannot you just like black wash the joints?
>>97706121Cawl finished and tested the primaris weapons& armour during the scouring. >>97706027I always used w40k mk6 apothecary parts from the DA Raven Knights box to make my mk6 apothecaries. Even their lore says they wear armour from heresy times.
>>97706204Yeah that's what I'm doing, but the joints are fucking retardedly deep so brush access is a pain. I'm forced to use a long thin brush and it's taking forever. Not looking forward to cleanup. Also no way am I painting the trim on these fuckers, they're just line troops anyways.
>>97706226>Cawl finished and tested the primaris weapons& armour during the scouring.Which isn't part of the heresy and they weren't seen until 40k.
>>97706226>Even their lore says they wear armour from heresy times.Let me guess, polish?
>>97706226A polish store owner illegally selling poorly translated copies of GW's books is not an official source of lore anon. How often do we need to tell you this?
>>97706232yes, but if he finished it by the scouring, this means DA had access to it during the heresy. For all we know the Lion may have had his own primaris program already going.>>97706235Slovak.
>>97706247No, that is not how that works at all anon. Just because something exists at a later point does not automatically mean the DA had it earlier. If you had actually read the real 40k lore you'd have known that the DA were in fact extremely distrustful of primaris marines, and took a longer time and much more intensive tests before accepting them into their ranks properly. So the opposite of whatever delusions you're spouting.
>>97706247This makes no sense, Cawl was a literal nobody during the heresy and only after it does big G make him start the primaris program. He couldn't even start it before because the one thing that he uses was literally being fought over in the closing days of the heresy. >For all we know the Lion may have had his own primaris program already goingIf he did have something like that going it would have been like the RG one rather then primaris. Do you have sources for anything that you are saying that I can check?
>>97706271>Just because something exists at a later point does not automatically mean the DA had it earlier.WRONGThis post was fact checked by real DA patriots.
>>97706271>If you had actually read the real 40k lore you'dPuke at the sheer retardation permeating it.
>>97706011>>97706022Yeah that's much better than leaving them unpainted. Would varnish be overdoing it?
>>97706278Yeah it isn't pretty. At this point I only keep up out of morbid curiosity, like watching a train crash and burn.
>>97706280Did a solid layer on varnish on mine, those tokens will get manhandled and tossed around a lot.
If anything exists in the warhammer setting, including fantasy, Dark Angles not only have it, but 50% of the time invented it or for another 50% chance have better upgraded version of it already. Thanks to time travel, golden age tech and being the first and most beloved legion of the Emperor.
>>97706295>If anything exists in the warhammer setting, including fantasy, Dark Angles not only have it, but 50% of the time invented it or for another 50% chance have better upgraded version of it already.So not only they AIDS, they have giga-AIDS?
>>97706295In fact Emperor was Dark Angel himself.
>>97706295>DA have gretchin guided pulse missilesIf only.
>>97706305they do have bombs, made out of alfa level psykers, sedated just before the moment of going full "warp gate".
>>97706314And Eldar can take three of these per squad.Eldar supremacy is evident we need them in 30k I want to see the face of my opponent when he receives 40 shots straight into face after charging 6 elf strong unit of dire avengers.
>>97706302The Old Ones? Dark Angels.
>>97706363why do you think Orks are green? shroom aren't naturaly green. And Goffs the strongest ork clan. How do they look? All black armour, with black and white checker paterns and some red here and there. They use the paterns of crusade era DA, because they see them as being the strongest.
>>97706199Why not use masking tape or putty for the joints?
So given I've got two squads of saturnine terminators here from the box set, what loadouts should I consider?I get the impression that the built in weapon on the fist might be a bit useless given they have to stand still to fire two weapons and it's a flame template weapon...
She's a coming.
>>97706387I build all of my with two plasmas, but I am DG. I can imagine some White Scar player zipping them around with fist flamer and a plasma doing a suprising 20" charge with a seer and legion rule.
>>97706399I plan to run alpha legion and blood angels because I'm a sucker for the contrast paint over metallic look those two legions can have for their primary colour, looks sick as hell.
>>97706387The options are real easy to magnetise, it you don't wanna be stuck with one load out.Plasma, fist, shredder seems the most flexible. Plasma for longer range anti-infantry, shredders for short range MEQ deletion, fists so they don't get tarpitted in melee by a tactical squad. >>97706399DG legion rule only means models still get the benefit from the Heavy special rule if they moved 4" or less. It doesn't make the models count as stationary, so DG saturnine still can't move at all if they want to fire both weapons.
>>97706419What's the better twin ranged option, plasma or disintegrators?
>>97706419I assume it is an error and will be soon FAQed. It would be stupid to have a rule that doesn't really work on anything.
>>97706434Plasma because it has Barrage. Staying still is a lot easier when you don't have to worry about getting line of sight. >>97706436Fucking WAACfag. It absolutely certainly is not an error, and even more certainly will not get a FAQ any time soon. There are plenty of units which have weapons with the Heavy special rule that benefit greatly from the DG legion rule, it just has no effect on the special rule only saturnine terminators have.
>>97706387>what loadouts should I consider?Magnetizing is pretty easy, although particle shredders aren't as easy since it's an extra purchase that sits on top of the fist.>>97706436It used to be the case in 2.0, for 3.0 the change seems deliberate.
>>97705971>the mk.iis do not have it all that bad in the grand scheme i'm happy to sayI disagree, the weird round bits added, the straps or whatever is on the legs now, the small baby heads, the ugly bulky backpack, the shitty temu nu-bolters. The only good part is the torso, which isn't even seperate except for the vehicle crew. >it can be entirely undone with a little work if one wantsElabrate how? The round part on the knee is unfixable.
>>97706199Black contrast paint works well for this.
>>97705980No ur not nowhere near natsoc about this anon.
Gave laserbeak some nee freehand after repainting a couple details. Next I gotta paint my widgets.
>>97705919>added round bits to the arms and shins of nu-mkIIAnon...where do you think primaris (and the mk8 power armor it's copying) got it from...
>>97706982Mk8 had the discs embedded into the greaves on the inside only while MkII (and III) had big rivets on the outside of the plates on both sides. MkX has disks embedded on both sides as well as on knees and elbows of certain suits. Those suits made the design trickle everywhere else, including new Heresy marks.
>>97706982Yes I wrote shin when I should have said knee, ESL moment. The round bit place is completely different place on mk8 on the lower leg however.
>>97707049Correct.
>>97702802>Even Macharius didn't go there.How does the projection of the Astronomican even work? Since the Segmentum Pacificus is on the Terran side of the Galaxy the Astronomican should be able to extend well into the Halo Stars there given how far it reaches into the Ultima Segmentum. Yes I know I'm probably putting more thought into this than GW does.
>>97707232Yeah it is us who have to come up with the explanations GW doesn't give. The easiest one is that the astronomican doesn't extend the same distance into every direction.Also, the light might be blocked by the opaque Eye of Terror. And seeing the new Cicatrix also blocks the Astronomican beyond it, it may be that all warp storms are opaque to its light.This might also be how it ends within the galactic plane, yet Tyranids can see it outside the galaxy from the sides – warp storms are mostly on the plane, not above or below it.
>>97706274Doesn't Cawl absorb his fabricator general, then absorbs the Emperor's main geneticist, then actually meets the Emperor, who tells him He has a plan for him?
>>97702802>Even Macharius didn't go there.He would've, but his men chickened out.>>97707232>How does the projection of the Astronomican even work?It is a psychic beacon created by the psychic choir and enhanced through the Emperor. It's basically just a big psychic signal in the Warp. And just like a lot of things in the Warp, storms and currents can cloud the signal as well as the Astronomican itself can wax and wane in its strength. Before 8e, it was already losing some of its range. Ultima Macharia had fallen outside of its light by the end of M41.
Played mission 2 from the new Skitarii Book. Really fun one. This was my first outing with a knight and it went really well. I killed a Breacher squad, a champion in cataphractii armor, and the knight lancer. The game went really well otherwise, the fact that my Iron Father had Int10 was getting me so many points. Him and his Morlock squad were fucking monsters; a full 10 man Cata squad and Saturnine Praetor charged me but ran away the same turn! After that they got cleaned up by LR fire and a final charge. Score was 26-9.
>>97707307>”FOR DORN!!! FOR THE EM-“>stomp
>>97707232stop thinking about it as a lighthouse, it's the death screams of millions projected through bad dreams
>>97707049you never even owned old mkIII in plastic, did you
>>97707331Are you going to argue that because the extra plate on the MkIII wrapped around the MkII ankle studs, it's basically the same as primaris?
>>97707329that's not what it is though. It might be powered by dying psykers but its still a psychic beacon/light house. Its Astropaths that communicate through dreams.
>>97707446The Warp is a fucked up place for everyone, even the Navigators.
>>97705889Nooooo you're not allowed to hate resin and like models! THAT'S NOT ALLOWED :(
I wonder if it was just a coincidence that 2/3 of the loyalist legions destroyed at the Dropsite Massacre match two of the three Roman legions destroyed in the Teutoberg forest (XVIII and XIX) or if that was intentional on GW's part.
>>97707780You think GW knows history
>>97707839It used to.
>>97707780Dunno 2 and 11 are already teuteborg reference.
>>97707331What is your argument here? Because there is none.
>>97707780Interesting reference
The Solar War is an awesome part of the setting. The bits of it we see in Sons of the Selenar, Praetorian of Dorn and the book Solar War are kino af and I'd love to see more of it. Perhaps a campaign supplement of some sort? New model releases? Even just more stories set around it? I'm not sure, I just really enjoyed it.
>>97708210Based.We need SoT releases already.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RHxe3cQZ014This guy is on the level I aspire to be, just brazenly sculpting AND using Stormcast parts like nobody's business.
>>97708253I imagine the Siege of Terra will get a Edition Release to itself like the Battle of Calth and the Dropsite Massacre have gotten. Maybe the Solar War will get a mid edition campaign book as a supplement leading up to the eventual Siege of Terra.
>>97708285>>97708210>>97708253I can see the Siege being the focus of 4th or 5th tbhon. It won't be the focus of a single supplement.
*impossibly loud psychic warhorn noises*
>>97708322https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6aT_oEhIKo
>>97707380>>97707969well I'm glad you're both defeated by facts and resorting to pissing yourselves publicly
>>97708322Why does both Ordo Sinister and Solar Auxilia have a lion as their emblem?
>>97708358lions are cool
>>97708358>lionThey are Dark Angels.
>>97708322For me, it's this one.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mZvuTKlQnoY
>>97706960I'm fixing to get back into AT after a long break, how do the new weapons do? Looking at the cards between the graviton and conversion guns there's zero reason to take turbo lasers, and with the LI stuff toy can do weird things like standoff Warhounds. Are Dire Wolves any use with their tiny reactors?
>>97706629as the gamut of morphology of OG power armour itself demonstrates, no one shape can ever possibly serve as a universal solution to every circumstance encounteredsimilarly, even if this went unrecognized, replacement of the human species with a single template of yuroid mutts was never a real solution. honing each and every permutation of mankind to its highest possible expression was always the only way.
>>97708579>no one shape can ever possibly serve as a universal solution to every circumstance encounteredThe future is modular. Which means that legally, "you may not like this, but this is what peak performance looks like"
>>97707469Pfft I could imagine that. Even Grok could imagine that. In a bikini, while at it :^)
>>97707780It's a out Margaret Thatcher, all over again.
>>97708640>make primaris to be all modular>remove 99% of options from the game and force units to be in exactly the type of gear you give themThanks, James, I hate it.
>>97708358>harlot
>>97708657damn, Margaret Thatcher was responsible for the Dropsite Massacre?
>>97708640it's a good thing that primaris plate never came to exist if one but chooses to omit the present hypothetical fanfic they're exploring in 40gay with the imperium never having picked itself up out of its fetid, wavering, mortally injured forward inertia. ever.i simply reject it
>>97708683Same
>>97708683I heard Warhammer Fantasy players had their setting explode and get retconned or something? And 40kiggers ever since d feared the same cataclysm. Their world did end with a great replacement, though it was gradual and bland instead of a singular bang.It used to be forget the promise of progress and understanding. Now things progressed and Guilliman is taking advice from Eldar. It's not necessarily primaris themselves, they're a symptom of the broader unmaking of the original static of the setting.
>>97708679No, Tony Blair did.
>>97708743The truth is, 40k did have it's End Times event.It was called Gathering Storm.From 8th ed onwards, 40k has been Warhammer: Age of Primarchs, and 40k as it was has been dead for nearly a decade now.
A few traitor Ultramarines fled Calth with the Word Bearers, traitor White Scars tried to sneak onto Terra, loyalist Thousand Sons fought on Cthonia, loyalist Iron Warriors fought on Paramar. We've got loads of strange traitors/loyalists changing sides, but we've never really had any focus given to traitor Iron Hands. Shame. I'd love some Iron Hands with traitor colours incorporated into their armour scheme or something.
>simply denying the existence of primaris and several editions of the game>rewriting primaris fluff with headcanon and redesigning the models to suit your likingI'm not in denial, I'm just very selective about my reality.
>>97707313>>stompI can see why (harr harr harr!)
If more of the Raven Guard were as fucking awesome as Nykona Sharrowkyn I'd probably adore the legion.
>>97708880Is he sporting a pair of charnabal sabres?
>>97708894He forges a pair of custom power blades with a Salamander, Tarsa, in the Seventh Serpent.
>>97708880>Nykona Sharrowkyn He is a king.
>>97708640Damn, those are lovely
>>97708410Dire Wolves are good. I've lost a couple games because of how they deploy and the slight changes to their stats makes them deceptivley capable.All of the weapons are viable in some way. I don't care for the conversion weapons, especially since they usually take a 6 to repair. The graviton weapons are good, even the 1 shot destructor. The 2 shot ruinator for the warlord is I think the best warlord arm weapon.
>>97707780Its probably just a coincidence but there are some similarities between Isstvan and the Varian Disaster now that you mention it. Arminius and his warriors were supposed to be on the Romans side and helping them suppress a tribal revolt while in reality they were leading the three Roman legions into an ambush that saw them wiped out.
>>97708651>In a bikini, while at it :^)thank you for making my day ',:^y
>>97708322>Lion Head>GreenNice Dark Angels :^)
>>97709788>>97709788>>97709788
>>97702778cute, like Imperial version of grot tank
