A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.'One Step Ahead' what's next for AMGPrevious: >>97615500Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBX-Wing/Armada/Legion/Shatterpoint:>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-transmissions/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/Latest Edge news:>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/Unlimited links:>https://starwarsunlimited.com/articles/>https://swudb.com/>https://karabast.netTQ: Before we devolve into a diet /tv thread again, speculate about the new sub-factions teased by AMG. And then argue incoherently and with diminishing returns about that.
>>97703365TQ: Naboo Security Forces with Gungans as a counter to Seperatist Invasion Battle Force. And then be mean to empire players by adding the handmaidens as an imperial royal guard
>TQI don't care about any FFG slop, make a wargame that doesn't require over 30+ types of tokens and several decks of cards
>>97703395I know swg on tg doesn't care about tabletop games, anon. That's not news.
>>97703403I greatly enjoy the TTRPGs, my longrunning campaign has been on a month hiatus while we do a train heist mini campaign run by one of my players.But FFG wargames are just dogshit anon, sorry if I'm the first to tell you
Play tabletop gamesPost minis
>>97703496Crimson Empire? Got any closeups?
>>97703496Kitbashed a Deena Shan out of leftover parts I had from the Star Wars Empire and Rebellion comics
>>97703580She's from the comics, not the leftover parts. If everyone could pretend that I can type sentences, that would be great.
>>97703403I know this will shock and horrify you anon, but people did in fact play wargames for many many years before your generation of cucked morons came along and got key-jingled into buying a bunch of useless plastic accessory crap.This mythical lost technology was known as "dice".
How do anon feel about Power Armor in SW? Do you ever use it in RPG campaigns? Do you houserule it into wargames? Relevant video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v2HYyQKp14
>>977035264u>>97703580Based. I could see running her as Sabine
Has anyone heard any rumblings from Edge regarding the 'in-development' SWRPG materials? It has been nearly 5 years since they announced they were going to make new stuff and supposedly renegotiate the deal so they could put out PDFs, this time around.
>>97705607Reprints are happening. Beyond that???
>>97705164That reminds me that I should.
>>97705292Love that base work on them too.
>>97705292Funnily enough, no Sabine parts used. Rook Kast head, Padme torso and blaster, super commando legs, and Maul's saber
>>97705164I don't mind it depending on scenario.I once had an Unknown Regions faction that was off-brand Age of Strife Terra with power armoured super soldiers (yes I called them thunder warriors) running amok on a Mad Max like hellhole fighting droids gone rampant, gene-bred Sith-adjacent abominations, and worse.Players went thinking they were hot shit. Players got stuck in absolute shit. Players victoriously retreated (ran away).
What would his stats for Legion look like?
>>97708658Is ther another Mando operative?
>>97708658Probably like a mix of Din Djarin and Cad Bane. Mando with a focus on range 1-2 shooting
>>97703365Anyone here play Age of Rebellion or Edge of the Empire?Starting session 1 tomorrow with a bang and pretty pumped. Slightly railroad-y to get started but already have the big galaxy map available to them to pick wherever they want to go (just gotta tell me before the next session).Basic outline of situations is:1. Start session out with them describing an ambush they all survived (and describing how their comrades died)- escaping on a junker ship2. Junker ship hyperdrive fails outside of a nasty Rhydonium mining planet 3. Rhydonium mining planet has sort of a small wild west vibe. Swooper bike gang is sort of running rampant as long as they leave the fuel alone. 4. Nearby Imperial "outpost" is actual a blacksite for a lab researching a few mystery things5. Plenty of competing interests (swoop gang vs Rodian Son-Tuul who have shown up; miners vs mining authority; miners vs swoopers; imps vs corporate authority)6. They can meet a smuggler who will offer to contact them to smuggle fuel. They can meet an information broker (Anatta, a classic). They can meet a force mystic (appeals to the "I hate the Jedi and Sith" force emergent of the group). 7. One of the players is a droid. His obligation is that Arakynd industries keeps trying to recall him and memory wipe him. There just so happens to be a Arakynd representative on planet fueling his ship- he'll buy either the Swoopers or Son-Tuul to help him8. Friendly Rebel asset who's been casing the Imp blacksite. Promises them a ship off if they can help him crack the site. (They can always say no)Looking for more random situations to throw their way. Any ideas for fun mini-hooks to let my characters fuck about before they start picking a direction forward?
I recently got invited to a Star Wars Edge of the Empire game. Never played before, but i kinda want to make a Naboo Handmaiden who's a ninja-type? Partially because i like the idea of people being unprepared for a teenage girl kicking their ass with epic ninja skills, but mostly because i actually really like the We Are Brave models, so i bought one and it's a good playing piece. Anyone got any advice on that?
>>97709483That's really clever. Let me think on it.In terms of specializations these are extremely well trained women. Effectively raised to be competent professionals from early childhood. I'd discuss ahead with your GM and propose that you might have some bonus starting XP and gear to allow yourself to start out as even a basic handmaiden.1. Human Female2. Specializations: Bodyguard and Quartermaster3. Characteristics should focus on Will4. For skills you can lean into brawl but you should definitely get at least 1 point in ranged-light. A handmaiden would likely have a point in charm, coercion, cool, deception (only those who would serve as a double), discipline, Negotiation, perception, vigilance. They'd probably have some knowledge (Core Worlds), and Knowledge (Lore). Human points would go into Knowledge (Education) (they come from a good background) and Coordination (to fit your ninja aesthetic)5. For gear I'd let you start with Handmaiden's Robes (Flame colored made of Karlini silk. I'd have it function as Noble Regalia- downgrading social checks when interacting with nobility and their subordinates once). Otherwise they are wearing tight-fitting clothing beneath and otherwise modestly outfitted. The weapon they all carry is the ELG-3A light pistol from Naboo (Dam 9, Crit 4, R: Short, Encumb 1, HP 0, Stun setting. Special: two setback dice for perception check attempting to find this pistol while concealed)Regarding XP, basically I'd ask for the second specialization for free. Maybe starting with 140 XP total not including the cost of the second specialization as long as only 100 XP max is spent into characteristics.
Hello /swg/I really want to get into legion and I plan on getting shoretroopers as my first army. This will be my first tabletop game. Whats a good shoretrooper army build? I'm assuming krennic as commander? I also plan on getting speeder bikes as vehicles
>>97710075The good news is with Imperial High Command coming out, they all work decent to great with shores and a gunline army. Tentative "we're so back"
>>97703496Special Operations, three-player fight. Rebel Troopers vs. Droid Commandos vs. Mandalorian Commandos
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>>97703403Can I field Fett as a leader? Preferably riding a Rancor? At least with the BoBF gang? Thats the bare minimum to get me to play
for mandalore
>>97710075Neither shores nor bikes are super competitive these days. As the other Anon said, someone like Tagge could be pretty good for them. Here is something I quickly slapped together that wouldn't be too bad.>>97710121How is spec ops? I've always wanted to try it, I heard it's kind of like Shatterpoint but better
>>97710511I must've suffered from selective amnesia or something, I only just realized there is a probe droid in Legion.
>>97710810They are supposed to come out in a couple of weeks. They look very efficient, kind of like Imperial B1s
>>97710833not him but how much is this.
>>97710121Are you allowed to make your own lists in Special Ops yet or are you stuck with the premades?
>>97711962"Stuck" with pre-mades. There's still some optimization you can do. That said, the game was brutal and fun and I liked what we have to begin with for squads. More squads are heavily implied to be coming--and it felt pretty modular. We were already home brewing stuff so the sky's the limit there.
>>97709472How did it go?GMed some edge of the empire a while ago. My first session was the group finding themselves with bags over their head in front of a Hutt crime lord who had them by the balls due to debt. Classic scenario and the first mission was an infiltration and heist on some underling of the Hutt who wasn't bringing in enough of the shares. Players where supposed to decide if they want to set themselves up against their debtor and go with the rogue underling or keep "loyal" to their boss. Things spiraled immediatelly and the question never came up. From then on it was a pretty sandboxy campaign where they jet around the outer rim in their rented ship and pay of their debt by bounty-hunting. The Hutt lord was about to get married so they mainly collected stuff like: -rare animals for cage fights-super hot twilek dancer sisters who pulled out the bizz but had to be brought back somehow-cooks and rare ingredients For a good start and new group, I think a head-hunting board with a handful of jobs is a good start. A group with a ship on their hand and a galaxy to explore is naturally quite well equiped for a sandbox game and all the GM headaches that entails, but this gives some initial direction. Have them decide what their next job from the list will be and prepare the ecounter for next session and maybe one more as backup if they glide right through it.
>>97713439Went well!Here's an AAR: https://files.catbox.moe/e7afds.pdfA good start with plenty of ways forward after they infiltrate this imp base. Basically they figure out a plan (either from various random leads they have or trying to tie up loose ends in their own stories), pick a system, and let me know before the next session. I'm fairly certain they are going to start some kind of Rebel cell and end up as literal terrorists. Looks like your session is awesome. Love the idea of the Hutt Lord that collects stuff. I could see that as a potent incentive to continue returning to him. Mind if I lift that idea into my own game?
>>97703365Looking for a 28mm Ben Kenobi miniature STL.Can't find one.
Oh heyI remember someone said that Lucas' original idea for a New Trilogy was Darth Maul surviving and becoming a crime boss. Looks like they survived that into the new continuity.
>>97705164Dee problem with zee power armour is that in Fallout and Warhammer 40k, the power armour guys are the strongest level of guys. But in Star Wars the top guy always has to be the force user with the laser sword, or you remove the setting's defining quality. I'm not sure if the Terrans in starcraft use power armour or they just kinda whatever.
>>97717751Maul as crime boss was a thing well before this show. Clone Wars show, Solo, etc.
>>97715130Star Wars Imperial Assault has exactly this
>>97711137Etsy them for a fraction of the cost
What unit do you guys really want to see added to Legion?For me its pic related
I'm writing a scenario Lone Wolf and Cub style where a Force-Sensitive is under the protection of one of the many Jedi who managed to get out from under the PurgeThe Jedi is intended to get got at the end of the story, and the Force-Sensitive is nothing to write home about, but I was debating how to handle it in the Early Empire. It seems obvious that a Jedi of the same species pretending to be the kid's parent works best, but that seems a little too obvious. Is there a better argument to having the kid and Jedi be different species, especially given the Empire's xenophobia? I can absolutely see a Stormtrooper pulling the Jedi aside on grounds of trafficking just by virtue of species, but the dynamic is intended to hint at the idea that the Jedi's cover story is bullshit. I considered having the pair try to move to Hutt Space where it's easier to lie low.
>>97721473>I can absolutely see a Stormtrooper pulling the Jedi aside on grounds of trafficking just by virtue of speciesThat would really only be a problem if the old Jedi is an alien and the force-sensitive child is a human. The average Imperial trooper isn't likely to care if they saw an adult human with what they suspected to be an alien slave.
>>97721584Fair enough. I expect a human would work best for the Jedi in any case due to being able to pass more easily.
>>97710075Shore troopers are pretty neat, you can build you army around them gunning down anything that gets close while you have other units that push onto objectives.I wish emps was didn't discontinued, i had a list made up built around a bunch of shoretroopers ready to gun down the model i'd pick with 'give into you anger'
>>97715122Sounds fun. And also pretty busy with a lot of action. May I ask how long your session went?Also feel free to take anything for your campaign as you want.
>>97721676You could look into how the inquisitorius hunted Jedi for the first few years of the Empire.Beyond that the galaxy slowly slipped into an ever more present police state, so random 'papers, citizen!' searches should only be a thing in the last five years of the empire, not the first five.Though that also depends on the planet, and what is going on.
>>97703365What was that one eu novel cover where they aged up luke and it looked horrible
>>97723397Do you mean that awful wedding thing, where Luke looks like he's done 60 years of glitterstim and Mara looks like a hoirrible bacta accident?
>>97723437Yeah that one
>>97723397>>97723437Found it
>>97723494Remember, kids: Don't do Death Sticks!Gllitterstim, not even once!
>>97723494Yeesh. The only characters that look on model are Leia, 3P0, and Nien Nub.
>>97723494>>97723532>Remember Luke Skywalker?>This is him now
>>97723494God, he looks like Jeremy Irons in a wig after a LOT of Meth.
>>97723494Certified /swg/ classic
>>97723397There wasn't one. There was an alternate cover to a comic book done by an artist who chose to draw a couple of his friends as Luke and Mara. If you look at the NJO covers, for example, Luke looks great. Pic related is her in 40 ABY.
>>97723494Luke has had really bad luck with some comicbook artists
>>97723494What the fuck happened with Luke's face there? I guess the artist intended to draw him with wrinkles on his face to indicate his aging from the time of the films, but he looks like a desiccated corpse.
>>97727573>Luke Binks
>>97703496
>>97728048Made by running this through Sora AI and picking the least horrible version
>>97727555>alternate cover to a comic book done by an artist who chose to draw a couple of his friends as Luke and Mara.This one >>97723494?That just raises more questions. Like what the fuck is wrong with his friends if they look like that? Did the artist's circle of friends consist exclusively of meth addicts?
>>97728048>>97728051This isn't normal, this is your batchall on glitterstim.
>>97728096Not all people look good or even passable. I have seen some properly hideous, fell-down-the-ugly-tree-and-hit-every-branch-on-the-way-down, oblivion-character-randomizer looking people work regular office jobs.
>>97728048Make it a TIE Droid and you got yourself a customer.
Alright guys, my campaign is all about bounty hunting and the players are searching for a gang of safe crackers who have pissed off the hutts and are now hiding on the smuggler's moon's lower levels. Our whole campaign's maps are made in blender and I'm trying to figure out how to arrange everything. Casinos and Hutt palaces on the top level with all the rich people. Huge dockyards on the mid level with the ugnaught unions. The lower levels for podracing and underground gambling. Anybody got some ideas for wild things to add some flavor to the world?
>>97731322High class, Middle Class and Lower class flavors of Twi'lek prostitutes
>>97731322>ugnaught unionsI presume the dockyards serve the Hutts, ultimately? If so, they'd almost certainly have a Pinkerton-esque service, to deal with particularly troublesome strikes, when they occur. Probably the closest thing to law and order on the planet too, with the way you've set it up.
I'm back with another MSPaint hack ugly. Started to fiddle around with the Y-Wing and made a Y-Wing/ARC-170 mashup. The Y-Wing is truly a chunky lady when compared to the other Clone Wars era snubfighters.
>>97731447I'm pretty sure that high class establishments in Hutt space would make a point of having Twi'leks as servants, not as entertainers.
>>97733898Would it work with the ARC cockpit?
>>97734047Gimme a minute or two.
I've always hated how ugly Imperial ground vehicles are. Really wish the Empire had a proper looking tank like pic related instead of the fucking prowler which looks and acts like a pickup truck
>>97734047here's ya go. Two versions with ARC-170 fuselages
>>97710109>>97710511>>97722483thanks for the responseLike I said this will be my very first table top game and obviously my first time getting into Star Wars Legion, so I'm still figuring out how to build an army. I REALLY like the look of shoretroopers and I plan on building an army around that. I saw that there are custom shoretrooper variant mini's which I was planning on getting. right now i was planning on>Krennic>4x Shoretroopers (DF-90 Mortar Trooper + T-21B Trooper)>2x Death troopers>1x 74-Z speeder bikesMaybe even E-Web Heavy blaster team and Scout troopers
>>97735205Very cool. Both look believable as uglies.It almost looks too good, like a coherent design.
>>97732015i like that, i was trying to determine whether to use imperials at all on the planet, this is the time between IV and V. the middle and upper levels are where most of the civilization is with the bottom floor being real grimy and shitty
>>97733908I would love a Blackfire slave, desu. Arrogant evil women are made for servitude.
>>97734964I maintain that the Prowler is not a tank. The size, shape, usage, etc. all indicate that it does not fit in any current definition of the term, thereby disqualifying it.
>>97736210Just so you know, that sniper STL is basically only useful for the Imperial remnant battleforce. You can attach a scout trooper sniper to any corps unit over there, Shores normally don't get it.
>>97737430I didn’t mean putting a sniper in the Shoretrooper unit. I meant I’d run them as Scout Troopers, just using Shoretrooper style models as proxies.Same idea with the speeder bikes. I’ll be running normal speeder bikes rules wise, just using Shoretrooper riders instead. I’m basically going for a fully Shoretrooper themed force, but everything will still use the correct unit cards
>>97735205It's a fat-ass uparmored, upgunned fighter-bomber. Star Wars could use a Republic P-47
>>97737559Bad news anon, Legion is one of those wargames that attracts a lot of Muh Offishul fags - they don't care if you paint your Imperial neon pink, but you have to use the "proper" models for a unit or else you're "confusing the silhouettes" or somesuch bullshit.
>>97738306>>97737559That's not entirely correctAll trooper units have the same silouettes. Notched based troopers like the e-web or the dewback also have a very specific silouette. The problem starts with proxying vehicle units, as they have real silouettes, but as long as those shore bikes are as tall as normal bikes (the guys riding them don't matter according to the official rules). In general, as long as a unit is properly distinguishable as to what it is, Legion players don't mind a bit of proxying and 3d printing.The only problematic part of that anon's plan is the idea of using shores as scouts. They are both existent units in the game with very different statlines and abilities, and could easily cause confustion for the other side.
>>97738306>>97738353It's only a problem for big 30-60 participants national or global tournaments.For casual play or small 12-24 persons tournaments no one will ever complain, quite the contrary, most players would be hyped seeing such a cool thematic army.
>>97723494For me it's George Floyd's ghost behind Obi-Wan
>>97727555>Mara was born in 17 BBY>in 40 BBY she was nearly 60>looked like thatShe defeated it. Utterly.
>>97739072Bacta. And Skywalker midichlorains.
>>97723494This is why we can't have nice things>>97734964Fractalsponge has quite a few tanks I consider decent, better than a lot of his other shit
>>97740010I really like the design of the 3rd tank in the middle, I just hate how massive it is
>>97738306People use proxies all the time, what are you on about?
If I can get Star Wars models shrunk down to 10-6mm scale, what wargame would work best for Hoth to Clone Wars-sized battles?
>>97740511I like how big they are honestlyThe Empire already has a propensity for giant vehicles so it kinda fitsPlus you already have the Saber/2-M for a smaller tank
>>97740730Having a tank that big that also serves as a troop transport defeats the purporse of the AT-AT imo
>>97741187AT-AT is long-distance artillery with troop capacity transport, that tank seats less troopers but is closer to the frontlineThat's like saying that the Juggernaut and the Sub-Tec Rover both ruin the purpose of an AT-AT because they're both transports and big
>>97740666Check out this guy's channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om0hwDRvCf8
>>97740010>Unaltered movie vehicle>Clone War vehicle with extra guns(because of course, it's Faggotspoon)>Straight ripoff from the old Essential Guide to Vehicles & Vessels>Two fuckugly bricks that are basically just the CW tank but bigger, with even more guns, and given an armoured shoe in one case, and a tiny version of his Space Wedges in the otherThis guy has never contributed a single thing of value to the IP and I continue to have no fucking clue why anyone pays any attention to him at all. His opinions are Saxonite garbage and his designs - if you can call "take thing, add guns" design - are trash.
>>97741187I guess the walkers (and maybe the wheeled things) are for situations where repulsor tech is somewhow jammed or disabled?
>>97742432>that pic
>>97742962It's glorious, isn't it?Here have something soothing to contemplate.
So, returning to Legion after a few years. Haven't played the new edition yet. And what I did play was a few games and lost horribly each time. This is everything I own, is there a way to turn this into a functional fun list that won't feel bad? I was thinking I'd like 2 lists one with CLuke and one with OpLuke but it takes pretty much everything I own to make one list. CommandersCLukeLeiaRebel OfficeroperativesOpLukeChewbaccacore2x Rebel troopers2x Rebel Veterans w/ MK2 TurretSpecial Forces2x Rebel Commandos w/ sabotuers/snipers1x Wookie Warriors w/ BowcastersSupportATRTOtherastromechcomms officermed droid
>>97727573Pretty sure that's from the 'Star Wars Empire' issue where he was part of a rebel team infiltrating an imperial facility to steal fuel and while there he bumped into his old buddy Tank from Tatooine.I'd guess that panel was Tank recognising him and calling out to him, in which case the art isn't really that bad because it's suppose to be Luke going>Oh SHIT! FUCK! MY COVER MIGHT BE BLOW! FUCK! SHITwhile trying to poker... sabacc face.
>>97744008I remember enjoying that story, even if its pretty far-fetched that he'd randomly run into him. The follow up was good too and had much better art.
>>97743959I'll be real with you Anon, your collection misses almost all the current rebel meta units. Here is what I managed to put together, but it's not really a competitive list. From your collection:>AT-RT>Luke>Rebel troopers>Rebel officerAre pretty strong, most of others being mid to bad.If you want to expand your collection, I'd look into getting:>An AA5 speeder truck>Landspeeders>Din djarin>Bad batch>Cassian Andor AND fleet troopers>Sleeper cells>More rebel troopers (the optimal corps comp is either 3x naked rebel troopers or 2x naked rebel troopers + cassian with fleets) >More AT-RTs>Mandalorian Resistance AND Sabine
>>97744267Thanks anon. What do you think the cheapest option to expand is? I am not looking to go to tournaments but would like to have an actual chance of winning casual games, and dont want to feel like I'm at some huge disadvantage.My last go-around I felt like I was using pea shooters against tactical armor and getting mowed down by machine guns in returnI have also heard sleeper cells are getting nerfed
>>97744375Basically, you're missing staying power and serious playmakers. I'd say that from my list you should get at minimum:>Bad batch OR Din Djarin>another AT-RT>one sleeper cell>a speeder truck OR a landspeeder>sleeper cells getting nerfed They got nerfed in one of the previous point cycles. They should be fine.
>>97745011I think I can get an AT-RT cheap and a rebel core cheap at my LGS, they are the old ffg edition. Or maybe I should bite the bullet and get the rebel starter but man thats alot of shit to paint and I probably wouldnt use some of it.re: sleeper cells thats good then, they seem like good solid units that are easy to use for people who dont get to play often like me
>>97745085With your collection, I don't recommend a new rebel starter. Since you already have wookies, commandos and rebel troopers, it has a lot of redundancy with what you already have.
>>97745135Ah true thanks forgot it came with commandos
>>97743226>Luke used to hit that nightly with Force enhanced, telepathy enhanced, mind blowing sexLumiya committed a truly unforgivable crime.
>>97745135I can probably get one of these, from the original edition, between these what would your recommend?>rebel troopers>sleeper cell>at-rt
>>97750492Sleepers, probably. You do need that big hitter unit
>>97703496First session of a new Age of Rebellion campaign. Went exceptionally well.
>>97748366>LumiyaLuke's caveman strength would have corrected her!
>>97756209I'm pretty sure Luka is Marasexual.Or other women do not want to die and leave Luke for Mara.
>Luke/Mara-posting is back on the menu/swg/ is healingEVERYWHERE
Has there ever been a good redesign on Luke's outfit? Don't get me wrong the black outfit he wears in ROTJ is cool, but I always thought he should wear something else now that he's a Jedi Master. I really wish they brought back Jedi wearing armor
>>97761071I never really liked Jedi in armor, it didn't make sense.
>>97761496It does when you think of them in their original context, that of warrior monks.Pre-Ruusan Reformations they had entire worlds just run by Jedi Lords who'd turn up, go "You're my responsibility now." then built a small castle and protected the Rim from bullshit.The Reformations are what wrangled the Jedi as a whole into thhe galactic cuckchair and set them up for being Sheev'd.
>>97761919>>97761496Desu, it makes sense if you think of them as "space knights". I've seen some custom jedi minis wearing ARF trooper helmets, And they look pretty great.
>>97728048Metal TIE?
Finally bought Force Rating 2.
>>97761919The Ruusan Reformation is probably the worst decision the Republic ever did. Not only did it make the Jedi into glorified government officials, but it also completely gutted the Republic military. Had the Republic still had a standing army, the separatist crisis could have been nipped at the bud and at the very least the Jedi wouldn't have had to place their trust into a suspiciously well-timed clone army that seemed to come out of nowhere right when the Republic needed a military again.You can argue that the post-Ruusan Republic had a thousand years of peace, but that seems to me to be less due to the Reformation and more due to lack of credible threats. The Sith had self-destructed in such a spectacular fashion that everybody assumed they were wiped out for good, and they would spend the next millennia hiding in the shadows instead of openly attacking the Republic, and it had been tens of thousands of years since the last time the Hutts had been interested in military conquest. That basically just leaves pirates and some minor powers that might start a local conflict, but no actual threats to the survival of the Republic.
>>97761919>>97762055I mean the armor didn't make sense. It's consistently shown to not do a fucking thing, troopers (both storm and clone) in armor drop to one blaster shot all the time. Jedi just block and dodge all the time.Asa badge of rank leading clone legions (or armies or whatever they were called), OK, yeah maybe. That ends up just looking kinda lame because, well, clones are just Temu stormtroopers and the way GL made the prequels the whole clone war is lame as fuck.
>>97762594The Senate wanted every aspect of society to be under their purview as 'The Democracy™', including things that aren't democratic by nature.Anything that couldn't be Democratized™ was basically gelded.Jedi? Well they're spiritual by nature and you can't vote for who is going to become one, it's either born with it or Maybelline, so that shit had to go.Military? Can't spend all your time fagging around with committees when a war is going on and generals have to have the final decision so that out they go as well.Safeguards? Undemocratic.Anti-corruption laws? That'd require them to be answerable to the law and the cops weren't never elected by anyone.Keeping things small or having any kind of limitations on how fat, overindulged and retarded the average Senator and his retinue become? Won't someone think of the politicians ;_;.Not to say the CIS were right given they were a bunch of mouthbreathers hand selected as "The most retarded, obviously evil people I can find, who absolutely will fuck up running the opposition and make everyone despise them" by Palps.But it's interesting that every critique the CIS had can be drawn back to the Reforms.
>>97762671Star wars stormtrooper/clone armor works kinda weird. If I remember my lore right, it basically disperses the shot's energy across the entire body, leaving the guy/gal inside with a bunch of bruises over lethal wounds. Thus, if someone is shot with like 1-2 blaster bolts, you may get knocked out of the fight, but you'll live.
>>97762863I know. Blasters deal as much damage as the plot requires.I'd have liked teh Jedi a samurai/knights/etc. leading armies, but the way it's shown in Ep2 makes little to no sense, and TCW or Ep3 don't really improve the situation.
>>97762939Currently my group is doing a game in what can only be described as 'Sengoku Star Wars'Where Palpatine failed to stick the landing on Order 66 and the entire thing has fallen into civil war, with Vader & Sidious both declaring themselves Imperial dynasties.It's created some real opportunities for "Fuck it we ball". Jedi generals who survived the Order and have become warlords, wealthy nobles who are trying to grab a piece of the galaxy for themselves, independent clone troopers who've turned into Mandaloreanaboos, ect.Sometimes the best thing you can do with a really firmly established setting is to pull out one of the key Jenga blocks of history and see where everything falls from there.
>>97762055That's probably influenced by the fact that the ARF trooper helmet is one of the coolest sci-fi helmet designs ever.
>>97762594>long-term enemy suddenly and epically collapses>peaceinourtime.jpg>eliminate military>this turns out to be naiveMany such cases.
>>97763009>Sengoku Star WarsGL's original Clone Wars timeline was pretty much 30 Year's War/Sengoku Jidai in spaaaaceWhich explains why the prequels ended up feeling so lackuster and time-wastey. The idea, the concept was there, but the actual story he decided to make from this basically sank the whole thing.
>>97763122You think they'd have learned from all the previous times the Sith were supposed to have been wiped out but then some Padawan with an overtly high opinion of himself found the holocron of some Sith Lord with a dumb name and declared himself the new Dark Lord of the Sith and reformed the Sith Empire for the umpteenth time, but no.Granted, this time the Sith played it smart and stayed hidden long enough for people to be convinced that maybe they really were gone for good, but the Reformation was done pretty much the moment the Senate found the Sith had apparently all blown themselves up.
>>97705164>How do anon feel about Power Armor in SW?Power Armor in Star Wars should work more like driving a small vehicle than wearing clothes. While wearing it, you can't fit through a lot of doors, can't pilot a ship, can't ride a speeder bike, etc. It's very specialized for combat that's too close-up for truly heavy vehicles, but still takes place in terrain where bulky suits can fit (or where it can make holes as needed). It should shine in big built-up cityscapes like Couruscant, Cloud City, or Nar Shadda in particular, in mountainous terrain, or sometimes in boarding operations against ships (when you don't mind tearing up the ship and depressurizing it). If you try to use it in open battlefields you'll get killed by walkers or air support. If you try to use it in tunnels, trenches, tight corridors, or flimsy structures, you'll get stuck. West End's game did have power suits and associated skills, but I remember the rules for it being pretty basic.
>>97762671You didn't watch then. 'Star Wars'. Luke and leia are stuck on the other side of a door with a bridge they can't extend because Luke shot the controls to keep the door closed. As he starts unreeling some cable from his stormtrooper belt, more stormtroopers start shooting at them.from a doorway above.We see Luke, returning fire, and then leis, ans we see the same storm trooper get clipped three times before he finally goes down, because Luke and leia never catch he dead on with the bolt.So stormtrooper armour is perfectly fine at defeating glancing hits from their own weapons, military grade storming carbine blasters. Meanwhile, han solo's dl44 is explicitly illegal for civilian ownership because it is military grade +, hence its ability to defeat the armour.Against civilian legal weaponry, stormtrooper plate gets even better.Also in star wars, when leia is originally captured, her little light target pistol is not very good, so she has to take super careful aim before she drops the first trooper with a good clean direct hit. At point blank range.
>>97765185I do know the movies.I suggest you go and watch the prequels where clone troopers just drop in droves.Or survive a gajilion shots randomly. Like in genndyshit. Or just live and die as the plot demands, like in TCW.I'd like things that work consistenly. Sadly, this is SW where background NPCs just live and die as the plot demands.
>>97761496>I never really liked Jedi in armor, it didn't make sense.They're literally called Jedi KNIGHTS
>>97765557NTA but I think, at least in peacetime, Jedi knights should wear a different kind of accoutrement instead of armor. Armor keeps you alive from weaponry, so maybe Jedi knights' "armor" would be things to keep them alive from other force-users.
>>97763565I bet the Old Republic era Jedi temple had one of those flip signs with "X days since new Sith empire" on it.
>>97765557Yes and? They don't need the armor, they can dodge.
Does anyone know when the Legion reveals are supposed to happen?
>>97761496They're wizard knight monks. I think this is peak Jedi design.>>97765589Agreed. Which is why it drove me crazy that none of them were wearing armor in ROTS. They're fighting on the frontlines of the biggest war the galaxy has seen in centuries yet none of them wear armorAt least the clone wars show sorta fixed that
>>97703365I've heard that Lando Cardrissian was originally conceived as a James Bond in close soldier form. He was a survivor of a family of clones who fought in the Clone Wars.
>>97766180Friday between 7:30PM and 9:00PM CDT.>HopesNew custom units for each faction, I'd like an Empire hero that shoots well besides Iden and more Clone heroes would be cool too.>ExpectationsFull reveal of the pirate battleforces rules and the CIS vehicle battleforce they teased last year.I also expect some spoilers on the Jedi High Council and Savage/Trench.>FearsGungans are the only thing they show. Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy for gunganfags, but I feel like Legion Gunganfags are a loud minority and if that's the only thing shiwn I'd be disappointed.
>>97703365Would it be sus if I ordered this on my family’s Amazon account
>>97766685Forgot pic
>>97766685Are you buying a jar too?
>>97766828No because she’s cute and I want her on my shelf
>>97766854She can sit on your shelf, in a jar.
>>97766334I want more customizables. I want the game to move more towards the /your dudes/ approach.>everyoneBounty hunter>EmpireInquisitorStromtrooper captain>RebelsJedi survivor>GARClone captain/commander>CISOrganic commanderDark jedi
>>97766185Only problem is tcw jedi armor looks atrocious
I just realized Count Dooku is an accelerationist
Intelligence > Brawn > Cunning > Agility >>> Willpower > Presence
>>97768801>Count Dooku isa tool used by the Sheevster, just like the other Jedi, Senate, etc.
>>97766741Depends...Have you done any other sus shit?What does your family think about you? Like do they already think you're a creepy cunt, or do they just see you as reasonably normal?If' you're really worried about it, buy another figure with it. Do they make a 6-inch young Boba? If so, maybe get one of him and a Jango as well, so that you can just tell your family that you wanted the full Fett family or some shit.
Personal headcanon: every starfighter pilot in Star Wars wants to fly a TIE/Ln fighter. Yes, they’re symbols of Imperial oppression. Yes, they’re mass produced. Yes, they have no hyperdrive, no life support, no gravity.But because of how stripped down they are, they’re the closest thing you can get to BEING your own starfighter. It’s not just about the speed, though they are zippy little things. It’s about the fact that there’s the absolute bare minimum between you and space. Raith Sienar stripped out everything that would get in the way.So even Rebel pilots who swear by X-wings and A-wings and so on, who hate TIE fighters…deep down, if given the chance, they would absolutely climb into one and take it for a ride.
>>97771238You know, that does make sense in a way, it wouldn't be crazy to believe that most young humans who dreams of being a pilot of their own ship yet got no experience would see the Imperial navy as a solid option to learn how to fly a star fighterGranted they probably soon realized they are flying what is pretty much a mass produce flying shit boxes with most of the important stuff needed for a star fighter taken out for budget cuts and they are fodder and soon going to be flying straight into a massive asteroid field because their admiral on the line is shouting non stop to stop this one smuggler's ship that keeps escaping them they might be regretting joining the navy but it's better than self learning how to fly a shipAlthough it wouldn't be the standard TIE fighter that people hope to get, no I think that would be the TIE Interceptor that everyone hopes to be issued with as they better, and cooler
>>97771910> mass produce flying shit boxesIn fairness to Raith Sienar, while the TIE/Ln is cheap and mass produced and fragile, I don’t think there’s anything in canon or legends to suggest they’re unreliable. Also while it doesn’t mount secondary weapons I believe the lasers are actually overpowered for a fighter of their size, and while officially they’re supposed to only be as fast as an X-wing, actual on-screen evidence is that they’re faster.Also the Interceptor wasn’t commissioned until 1 BBY, so for most of the Empire’s run the standard TIE/Ln would be what people hoped to fly.
I like most of the weird TIE variants, but I find the TIE/ln to be kinda lame.
>>97771238>But because of how stripped down they are, they’re the closest thing you can get to BEING your own starfighter.I'd argue that the A-wing might be close to that in terms of the pilot's experience. You get a similarly small fighter that's basically all engine, but whereas the TIE has its big hexagonal wings blocking your peripheral vision, the A-wing has a bubble canopy with an unobstructed view of the void.
>>97761071I could see Luke wearing cleaner versions of some of the armor Kal wears in survivor.
>>97771238My biggest annoyance was how the shows immediately transitioned from V-wing to TIE fighter. Would have loved to see a bit more V-wing and ARC-170 in imperial colors and eventually the in between of a v-wing and tie fighter
Some pics from adepticon
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>>97777084Guerilla troopers, my beloved. I'm totally converting these into remnant stormtroopers.
>>97771997>I don’t think there’s anything in canon or legends to suggest they’re unreliable.If anything, they're described as being very reliable. One of the big advantages of the twin ion engine is that it has very few moving parts so it requires very little maintenance, and when maintenance is required it is simple to do.The TIE/Ln is probably the perfect entry-level starfighter: it's cheap, reliable, easy to maintain, quite maneuverable, and reasonably well-armed for its size. It can't directly compete in a one-on-one dogfight with more expensive elite fighters like the X-Wing or the TIE Defender, but it's not really meant to.
>>97777080Mudtroopers must be even cheaper and crappier than normal Stormtroopers considering they were in canon suposed to be Planetary Defence Forces getting sifted to see who was dedicated enough to become a Stormtrooper and who was cannon fodder.
>>97777378My guess is that they'll be Imperial B1s6 dudes, white surging defense, non-surging white attack, courage 1
>>97777772Damn, so close.
What're some of your favorite things in Star Wars? Nothing in particular, just anything. For me it's:-Anakin, I really liked finally getting to see what he was before he was Vader.-General Grievous, looks cool, like him better in TCW.-Greedo. Funny fly dude, I dunno. That's it.-Han Solo. Gunslingers > Jedi-Hoth. Ice planets are based, winter is my favorite season.-Hutts. Bitterly hate how Disney ruined Hutt space.
>>97768965Max Int characters are so fucking silly conceptually. Great at literally every single scientific field simultaneously.
>>97709483>>97709565Whatever happened to handmaidens anyway? Did they just all get killed off between Episode 1 and 2... and then presumably since they got a new queen, all the old decoy handmaidens got replaced with new ones?
>>97723494>>97728096The real punchline is how Leia of all people is the only one who looks actually normal and unaged or high as a kite. Even Chewie looks like he's fucking baked out of his mind.
So do you think post empire/first order with no one around to actively hunt the jedi, save for remnants, we'll ever see a singular unified Jedi order again? Personally I think it'd be fun if they went the route of multiple new orders, each claiming to be the true successors.
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>>97781172I like how ridiculously user friendly Star Wars technology is, or must be in order for the setting to work. Han Solo is no one’s description of a genius, but he can operate and do a decent job at repairing a starship capable of flying faster than light. Anakin can build a 3PO series droid in a cave with a box of scraps. Luke dicking around in a T-16 was enough training to make him good enough to fly an X-wing like a pro. Ewoks can hop on a speeder bike or jump into an AT-ST and figure out how they work. And so on, and so forth.It’s probably the most user-friendly sci-fi franchise out there. The tech basically wants you to understand it.
>>97782566I suppose when you have, like, 1000+ years since the vast majority of groups in the galaxy got to space most of the tech's gonna be streamlined to a crazy degree.
>>97781172Star Wars battles are the coolest thing ever, the less force users the better
>>97782754I admit the main personal advantage is that when I use AI to self-indulgently run my D&D character somehow ending up on Ord Mantell in 10 BBY, I can justify her becoming decent with technology after just a few months. A little gremlin in the back of my head tries to bring up the knowledge gap and I just point to the planetside Battle of Endor and it’s forced to shut up.
>>97782743>>97782452Slightly disappointed we didn't get Magical Girl Amiga after all that M-count (because they can't say midichlorian) bullshit.Though not as disappointed that they wasted an entire episode of BB on that disgustingly ugly bald bitch coming back from the dead to fail to train Amiga.
>>97781824There's a ton of cool and fun possibilities in Star Wars post-Endor. Amazing how bland and boring Disney managed to make it. The Empire mysteriously disappearing despite being the government body across the galaxy makes zero fucking sense. Would have been way more interesting if Galaxy balkanized into different factions with New Republic being one of them
>>97783906Very disappointed Sheev didn't turn this annoying cunt into midichlorian goo. Terribad show.
>>97783906I didn’t know that; she seems like force powers would fit her>>97784271 Heresy
>>97781191I mean.... highly intelligent people do tend to be somewhat of polymaths
>>97782743>>97782452>pomf>wat are we gonna do on the Venator, anon?
>>97782743>the books in the backkek, nice fagles btw>>97777084>the shatterpoint display is just sequels shitgrim, even wtihout the news I am getting sick of all the glub shittos dominating the meta, I will still be competing for this years GT measuring tools though boy I want them
Trying to get into making maps for my group. I kind of wanted a dungeon type of map with multiple rooms for multiple things. Treasure, surprise enemies, objectives, etc. Anyone feel like looking?
>>97782452>>97782743go to therapy before you do something dumb like molest a kid or pay for cp
>>97782452>>97782743>>97784291Don't mind the trolls anon, she is beautiful and should be displayed correctly.
>>97782566Han Solo is a corellian, who grew up, around and on starships, fuck disney retcon faggotry. His entire schtick is knowing how to make corellian ships fly, and how to fly them good. pay attention to how he is such a bad SMUGGLER, is terrible at crime, that he had to dump his cargo of illegal spice before he was boarded by imperials, so he didn't get caught, and as such is on the hook to jabba for the cargo, to the point he eventually gets a deathmark put out against him. the falcon is always on the verge of falling apart because he is really shit at the whole 'crime' thing because he doesn't really actually want to be doing that.anakin is an instinctively genius force wielder who was slowly building c3po out of saps over his entire life doing wierd force meditation shit without realising it as he built his robot.the xwing, was purposefully designed and built by incom to be ruggedly simple and easy to fly, and common to many civilian flyer models because they made it to sell to an insurgency they were tacitly supporting, so they knew its pilots were going to BE bush pilots and half trained goobs. and luke himself IS "the best bush pilot in the outer rim territories." he outflies everyone else anyway. biggs, etc all his other buddies from Tatooine who had previously fucked off to the imperial academy to learn to fly better and then go AWOL to join the alliance still could not keep up with him.ewoks however, are powered by the plot armour of 'cute fuzzywuzzy' they are straight up 'magical negro' levels of bullshit.
>>97785934What are you babbling about you mad bitch. The point is that a normal person like Han who isn't a fucking university graduate with a doctorate in hyperphasic quantum tunnelling or whatever can learn to work on a ship like a Greaser in the 50's could learn to work on a hot rod or a Harley. That random plebs on backwater shitrocks like Tatooine can operate junk shops with savaged gubbinz because it's possible for Joe Moisturefarmer to grab a bunch of that scrap and cobble together a working speeder or even starship with enough time and effort, because Lucas' point of reference for how tech works in Star Wars was mid 20th century American car culture, not typical high falutin' sci-fi.That's all anon was trying to say, he wasn't insulting your gay crush Han you hystrionic fag.
>>97784992Engineers aren't also doctors and lawyers.
>>97786041cry harder you dumbfuck.
>>97785004Cuddle>>97785594Those books are just for archival purposes, I read mostly on my kindle. I hate how everyone mentions them because I had nowhere else to display my stuff.>>97785782Stop being such a prude>>97785805What do you have in mind?
>>97762594>You can argue that the post-Ruusan Republic had a thousand years of peaceI believe the canon greatest period in the Republic (without even brush fires to put out) was when a Hutt was running it. Literally, he was the Supreme Chancellor and reigned for 275 years of the greatest peace and prosperity the Republic ever saw.
>>97785934Look, even if Legends Han is what you say (and I have my doubts - Jabba did call him his favorite smuggler and was very generous with giving him chances to pay him back, which implies that Han was successful more often than not), the fact remains that the Star Wars universe doesn’t work *unless* it’s ridiculously easy to maintain a starship.>anakin is an instinctively genius force wielder who was slowly building c3po out of saps over his entire life doing wierd force meditation shit without realising it as he built his robot.Also this is dumb and I vastly prefer my version.
>>97786110That's why "Characteristic" and "Skills" are different things.
>>97786239BTFOThanks for confirming it bud, you could have just stayed quiet and I'd never have known that you were seething at being so thoroughly destroyed, but you couldn't help but reveal my power over you and now I'll enjoy that knowledge all day.
>>97786624are you deranged?
I present to you... whatever the fuck this is.
>>97786546Characteristics are like skills but strictly better.
>>97786309>What do you have in mind?posted on /b/ in a figure bukkake thread. You know what you must do.
>>97787182No I protect her
>>97783906I dunno. i kinda like the idea of stories about "Just because you have the potential to use The Force, doesn't automatically mean you have the mindset" Although i will admit it wasn't handled all that well.
>>97787306I'm reminded of a character i made for an old Saga edition campaign. An Trandoshan Elite Soldier who had Force Sensitivity, but never did anything with it because "Force and Lightsabers are for pussies" But he did keep getting pinged by every force user we ran into and every time someone tried to tell him he could teach him how to harness it to become a better warrior, he just did pic-related.
>be Jedi Padawan less than 5 months after Order 66>cross paths with Maul>he offers to teach you the Dark Side Would you accept?
This scene was so fucking kinohttps://youtu.be/bsSrD6Kw6xk
Just so I’m aware: There has not been some release of a EotE 2nd edition? Or some announcement by Edge that an EotE 2nd Edition was in the works? Right?
Holy shit I’m on bad batch s2e13 and I couldn’t have seen a show go from gem to coal faster
>>97786944That's why its harder to increase them
>>97788971Nope, it's a finished system with no sign of edition change. They might make some more setting books or modules if disney wants them to like how they made that Force Awakens starter box to go with the movie.
>>97789141Oh thank god. I mean that’s what I figured, but wanted to be sure
>>97786880Big shoe LMAO
I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this,But what happened to planets that chose neutrality during the Clone Wars following the rise of the Empire?I’d assume there’d have been a lot of punitive actions taken, but in that “we’re not officially saying that we’re punishing your world for not taking a side, but we totally are” kind of way that, everyone knows these are punitive actions, but the official statement is that they are not.
>>97790190I suppose it depends on what you mean by "chose neutrality during the Clone Wars." Do you mean a planet that was already an independent neutral power, or one that seceded from the Republic but didn't joint the CIS?Because any secessionist Republic worlds would be forcibly reintegrated into the Empire, but there were some longstanding minor regional powers like Hutt Space and the Hapes Consortium were largely left alone by the Empire as long as they didn't meddle in Imperial affairs.
>>97790326Wasn’t Mandalore a republic world that maintained a neutral stance during the war?At least until Maul seized power
>>97790381Sure, but that happened literally in the final days of the Clone Wars, and the world was already under occupation by the Clones when the Empire was declared, with no local government other than the occupation forces.
>>97786880>AT-ST if it never skipped leg day
>>97790750Yeah, but it wasn’t the only Republic planet that took a neutral stance, just the most prominent. Just speculating about other, similar worlds.
>>97786041It's histrionic, anon.
>>97787670If I knew who he was, fuck no. Dude is way too ambitious and his sanity is circling the drain. I'd need to lay low and stay quiet if I have any hope of surviving. But it's unclear what the average Jedi actually knew about Maul. Without that knowledge, yeah I'd probably take the gamble but more from an stance that it's better to have back up than none at all.
>>97791145>>97791150>>97791183>>97791223>>97791228>>97791268This pleases me.
If I lived in the Galaxy I bet I would have unironically supported the CIS.
I couldn't find a picture but they showed Fang with the mandalorians
>more filonislop mando shitters in legion
>>97791730>>97791737As far as I’m concerned, Mudtroopers are just a less than flattering name for the imperial regular army. Which is great because it means AoR has had Mudtrooper stats for years. But that’s just me.> what about Swamp Troopers?Similar kit, but one is slightly more green, generally operates within marshy terrain, and is competent. A mud trooper wears the same, slightly more grey kit regardless of environment, carries themselves with less confidence, and its pretty obvious that their training got as far as “this is the end of the blaster you point at the enemy, and this is the trigger you press to shoot it. Got that? Don’t answer that, I don’t actually care” before proceeding to push them in front of whatever pissed-off population the Empire wants cowed.
Getting to the Bad Batch season 3 and despite disliking her I appreciate the fact they made Cid just bad, I could see a mile away she was but despite that I thought they’d still make her a redeemable character but nope. And I never knew she was Trandoshan. Reptilians are evil.
>>97791145>mando armyHuh. So are they infantry only then? The choice of making their corps be 5 guys is interesting. >wren, KryzeWhere is my death watch, AMG?>>97791268/your dudes/ mandoThank you, AMG>>97791743This actually looks fairly decent. I hope they buff the GAVw and I may actually buy this box.>>97791753>X-wing>when separatists are still missing the HMPAMG, please>>97791760>that icon in 2027Does it mean super heavy for other factions?
>>97791268>Generic Merc Operative for all factionsPretty cool, even if it's supposed to be a Mando it can probably be kitbashed into a Clone Jet Trooper or a Phase 0 Dark Trooper.Gar Saxon for the Empire would be great, another source of Compel would always be welcome.>>97791228>5 guys with impervious surging red saves, tactical, jump, range 3 and good meleeDamn they look amazing but they'll probably cost at least 100pts.Likewise, the Guerilla Troopers look cool, but I'll have a hard time choosing my Special Forces between these and Sleeper Cells.>>97791743>>97792052>GAVw buffsI'm gonna take a wild guess and say the way they'll do it is by making big Mudtroopers squads that can be transported by the GAVw like the big pirate squad.>>97791760I think the 2027 icon is the one for air support like the X-Wing. And the HMP is the most likely option for CIS.
Man, Star Wars legion is looking great. Seems like a good time to jump in!
Why does Disney Star Wats always have the “innocent brown people” scenes. I tried watching Andor and literally the first episode. Legends Star Wars was about literal Fascist gods like Malgus and Plagueis while Disney Star Wars looks like an ad for Catholic Charities.
For those of you running SW RPGs:How many of you actually treat the sequel trilogy as canon?
>>97793157Meanwhile in The Mandalorian, the main villain is a Black man. So maybe you’re just laboring under confirmation bias.
>>97793253I never watched them so I actually wouldn't even know.
>>97793263>runningNevermind, I'm only playing.
>>97793253I set my game in a quasi-canon post ROTJ era for the explicit reason of letting my players’ actions prevent the retarded sequels from happening
>spectresplease..... no.... all this filonislop... stay in shatterpoint
>>97793157>Disney Star Wars looks like an ad for Catholic Charities.Disney SW hates religion. Gilroy literally said the prison arc in Cuckdor is a shit metaphor for becoming an atheist. Also Catholics want good for everyone unlike Didney who only cares about muh poor tribals>>97793261Because that's the only thing Giancarlo is known for. Being Gus Fring, being scary. I'd argue he isn't a DEI hire like Reeeeeeva or the Ack-olyte cunts but rather just an attempt to cash in on the popularity of a Gilligan actor. Much like bringing in Jack Black and Chris Lloyd for Fagdo S3
>>97792052They confirmed build options for the Tribe and Death Watch too
https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/
>>97793526Catholic Charities is run by Jews it’s just a front for replacement migration. But Star Wars being anti spirituality is just a total betrayal of its ethos. Another reason not to watch Anbore.
>>97793575In that sense yeah I agree>Star Wars being anti spirituality is just a total betrayal of its ethos. Another reason not to watch Anbore.Not a shocker. Classic SW was a fairytale with political tones but overall the main focus was the fantasy aspects like the Chosen One prophecy, the Skywalker family, the Jedi and the Sith, etc. Even the Rebellion vs Empire was more fantastic than people give it credit for, it isn't an obvious Vietnam copycat. Meanwhile Andor strips all the fantasy and fun so Gliroy can rant his head off for various hours on FASCISM BAAAD, RAPE BAAAD, WHITE PEOPLE BAAAAADThe worst part is hearing people genuinely call it "the adultification of SW". Leftist Zoomers and Gen Alphas are so mindraped they think fantasy only applies to kids and they can only think in politics. Yaaawwwwnn.
>>97793526>>97793575This is your brain on cloneshit
....but will there be new cards for dooku/grievous/ventress?i'm still waiting on commander ventress so I hope they do it
>>97793640Are you really unable to understand that 'losing faith in the system' does not equal 'becoming an atheist'?Or is your god a number on a display, too?
>>97793640Why would anyone think atheistic messaging makes sense on a universe where the metaphysical explicitly exist? The fact such people are hired to write is abhorrent.
>>97793644>cloneshitWrong, classic SW. No Disney product has ever tried to be compatible with even the movies because Disney is unable to produce actually profound stories based on fantastical representations of archetypes that apply to everyone like the Hero's Journey or a spiritual focus like the Jedi which represents philosophical concepts about life beyond our material realm. Modern SW can only be political and materialist like its writers>>97793654Have you fucking read the pic retard? From Gilroy's own mouth, it isn't losing faith in the system, it's losing faith in God and becoming an atheist cuck who instead worships the glorious marxist philosophy. He even says it's THEOLOGICAL, by definition relating to religion.
>>97793640You seem really upset that people like somthing you don't like.Let me guess, you love the prequels?
>>97787306the episode was there to explore of omega was force sensitive from the perspective of a force user, hence the tests, with the following episode exploring it from a science PoVshe isn't, as omega failed every test but the second (which was a simple fetch task and most likely told to do it so she's out of the way while ventress was beating up the squad) and shows no possible hint of force sensitivity, ventress however doesn't know what makes omega special, but it's not the forceit's also funny that this came out after sabine being force sensitive in ahsoka, as the "excuse" for that is "anyone can do it if they train enough!" only for the bad batch to say you need a high midichlorian count to begin with immediately after
>>97793669>Doesn't like Lucas SW>Instead likes a bastardization of what Lucas actually wrote which betrays the whole universeThis is the level of cuckness we've reached. A community infiltrated by people that hate Star Wars and want to destroy it and remake it in their own delusional image. Like if a large chunk of the LotR fanbase liked RoP. What a shame.
>>97793668>Have you fucking read the pic retard? From Gilroy's own mouth,I don't givea fuck what whoever wrote the script or made the movie INTENDED.I care about what they SHOW and what the characters DO.Kino Loy thought he'd do his time, then he'd return to society. That was his belief, he believed in the system.That system abused him, would have simply used him up. He lost faith in the system and rebelled.If you see this as a parallel to people today losing faith in god because the church betrayed and abused them, maybe recosnider what you think about god and the church. Maybe that is what Gillroy saw and wanted to portray. I don't know, and I don't give a fuck.I care about a good story, good characters and cool space battles. Not who writes it or directs it or plays a role in it.
Hey /tg/, is there any place to comission star wars art that is your go to these days?
>>97793694i get fetish art of SW characters so deviantart
>>97793692Then, my friend, you're just coping. You ignore the intended messaging for a cope about what you think it means.>I care about a good story, good characters and cool space battlesDisney SW hasn't had a single one of these. Rogue One came the closest I guess, and it was still miles away from a large chunk of the EU let alone anything Lucas made. Happens when your media is directed by a bunch of Cali nepo babies with zero talent and zero knowledge on real writing beyond whatever slop they've watched on TV.
>>97793685Wait, so you don't like the prequels? Or are you trying to imply that I don't like the prequels?You seem confused. You really need to let go of that hate. Your pic implies you hate the Jedi games, even though they had a better story and better characters than, say, Kenobi.
streets are saying in jedi 3 cal plaps merrin
>>97793707>>97793685>copeseethecuckCome on man. You sound terminally online.
>>97793711>Wait, so you don't like the prequels? Or are you trying to imply that I don't like the prequels?I like the PT. I'm saying you clearly don't like them or see Andor as better than them which is hilariously sad. >You really need to let go of that hate. I've mostly just retained contempt. I know I won't watch anymore SW crap Yidsney pumps out because it has consistently been some of the worst media I have ever watched.>Your pic implies you hate the Jedi games, even though they had a better story and better characters than, say, Kenobi.Dogshit is better than buffalo diarrhea, so what? They're still a complete joke. Vader getting girlbossed, a random ginger being on the verge of discovering a vault of kids that could pretty much annul Order 66, the Empire being a bunch of incompetent lackeys who fail to do shit. Just because it isn't little Leia under big boy Ben's tunic walking around an Imperial base levels of retarded doesn't mean it isn't retarded.
>>97793715Based if true. CalxMerrin are the cutest thing in SW.ShinxSabine is fine, too.
>>97793734>I like the PT. I'm saying you clearly don't like them or see Andor as better than them which is hilariously sad.I didn't like parts of Ep1, because holy fuck stop wasting screen time with Gungans.Ep2 was mostly ok, but suffered from George not having a tardwrangler to rein in his godawful dialogue. The CGI aged poorly, in parts at least.Ep3 was great.I'd probably still rate TESB and ANH higher, but that may be nostalgia speaking.RotJ is in parts weaker than the prequels, probably on par with TPM.But I also liked R1, and Andor. I liked that they showed the Imp era, and the dirty side of an insurrection.Same reason why I liked the Jedi games, I guess.I just don't get why people have such a hateboner for Andor. If you're scared of THE MESSAGE, it's not in Andor. Were the people making it leftists and confused commie adherents? Maybe, but they kept their politics out of Andor for the most part, except for where it shows the evil GALACTIC EMPIRE doing thier evil shit..And THE MESSAGE fucking well WAS in Kenobi and boy oh boy was it in Acolyte and teh sequels. And it burned the franchise to the ground.
>>97793526>catholics want good for everyone
>>97793526>>97793640just forgetting the deliberately injected spirituality ala the force healer in season 2?
>>97793865>Oy vey they added ONE (1) character into the series that has to do with the main intrinsic aspect that sets the world apart, that totally trumps the creator himself saying Andor is anti-spirituality!dumb shill
>>97792554>>97792052Since the mandos are getting the fang and the rebel get the x-wing, the CIS might be getting the vulture or another type of starfighter
>>97793946What would they get other than vulture? Not saying they don't have options, but nohing in their portfolio really compares to the x-wing.
>>97793931you lack basic comprehension and you are clearly spiraling
>>97791753At the speed and range of Legion, this better be a bunch of cards to bring over X-Wing models as they do flybys of the board.
>>97794108HMP!
>>97794185That's a good call, those things were actually super small in X-Wing and clearly meant more for Legion scale.
>>97793715Divergent clan of semi-Jedi Nightsister for ST projects.
>>97794108They could get the tri-fighter>>97794185I think they'll start by giving everyone a starfighter and then add specialist units like HMP or LAAT/i
>>97793652>No DurgeWhy?
>>97794440He's not a leader, he's a bounty hunter. He's not canon. He sucks.
>>97794202Yeah, I always thought it weird that X-wing included the HMP and LAAT at all.I mean, I know that they are iconic, but not only are they atmospheric flyers, but they are ground support aircraft. It’d be like trying to use an Apache as an interceptor, I mean, maybe it can pull it off, but seriously, what are you doing man?
Star Wars ground combat makes no sense. You have planets, starships and even droids with energy shields, so why don't ground vehicles and infantry have them too?
>>97794901But they did. Some of them did.
>>97794924A few did
>>97786631No, joyous at the comical thought of your impotence in the face of my mockery. Again, I thank you for continuing to confirm that I live in your head rent free.
SESSION TWO TOMORROW BOYSRecap of Session 1:The Cast of CharactersRhylen Pryce-Solune- The youngest of the group. Dressed inauspiciously but carrying a presence of personality more befitting an Imperial senator. Escaping a past involving his family and their collusion with the Empire.Darian Voss- A weathered mechanic recently defected from the Empire. Hoping that both his talents and knowledge offer him a path to avenge those who have wronged him both within and without the Empire.AX-5YN- Rhylen’s companion and protocol-droid-turned-slicer. With so much time since his last memory wipe he’s finally experiencing a taste of autonomy with little desire to return to the servitude he once lived.Veasil Roth- A savvy Twi’Lek gambler and recipient of more than his fair share of fortune, Veasil’s suffered a great deal personally at the hands of the Empire and seeing those hands tighten has driven him to realize that- unless he fights- that luck will surely run dryIt's set in an alternate history around the time of the Battle of Endor. One in which the Emperor and Vader both die on the Death Star. However, the battle also claims the life of most of our favorite heroes (Luke, Han, etc). Rather than upending the Empire's control, it's more a pyrrhic victory: the Empire balkanizes, but much of the Alliance was destroyed on Endor during the battle. Lawlessness spreads to the outer rim as Imperial Warlords vie for the seat on Courscant, tightening their grip on the star systems under their control.
>>97795031The prologue opened with the group rattled and running from a mission that was supposed to be simple: meet a sympathetic Governor on Ord Radama, facilitate his defection, and leave. Instead, the session began with the crew catching their breath and piecing together the disaster they had barely escaped.Their guide-an eager but painfully green rebel “sergeant” named Mack-had led them straight into what they thought was a meeting site. In reality, it was an ambush.Stormtroopers emerged from the marshes around them, blaster fire stitching the mud as a full platoon closed in. The crew bolted for a freighter parked nearby-a rusted bucket that accelerated roughly as fast as chilled Nekku milk pouring uphill.Several moments from the escape will live in Rebel legend. Veasil sprinted Jack Sparrow–style across a marsh erupting with explosions, surviving by what appeared to be nothing short of Force-guided luck. Rhylen fired a wildly placed blaster bolt that somehow detonated an incoming missile mid-air. Meanwhile, the remaining rebel fighters were executed where they stood as the crew’s freighter clawed its way skyward, jumping to hyperspace just as an AT-ST lumbered into firing range.The escape came at a cost. Among the dead was Veasil’s newly acquired Devlikk gambling companion, tragically crushed beneath a disabled landspeeder before the group could reach safety. A friendship-and several future Sabacc games-ended before they ever began.The crew barely had time to process the disaster before their hyperdrive failed spectacularly, yanking them out of hyperspace like a rock skipping off water and dumping them into the gravity well of a nearby planet. AX-5YN quickly analyzed their predicament and identified their destination: Revax-19, a remote dust-choked volcanic world dedicated almost entirely to Rhydonium mining. The planet’s gravity measured roughly 1.2 standard-an oppressive pull that would have weighed heavily on the crew…
>>97794968>You have planets, starships and even droids with energy shields>droids with energy shieldsYou dont read do you?
>>97795036Rhylen leveraged his knowledge of Imperial logistics and landing protocols to smooth-talk Ashpoint Outpost’s ground control into granting them permission to land: waiving the docking fee. Ashpoint itself looked exactly like what you’d expect from a mining outpost at the edge of nowhere: rusted equipment, tired workers, and buildings that looked one sandstorm away from collapse. The drabness stood in stark contrast to Ketra Volee, the striking Zabrak supervisor who greeted them.Ketra explained that the entire region operated under the authority of the energy conglomerate Vex-Mor. Worse still, Imperial Credits were “no good here.” Instead, locals used a company scrip called "VM Chits", which conveniently held value nowhere else in the galaxy. As the crew debated their next move, Darian had already located the source of their ship’s failure: a damaged hyperdrive inducer coil.A greasy Nikto mechanic named-appropriately-Grubs emerged from an argument with a battered astromech droid and offered his services. He spoke with the peculiar habit of adding an “s” to the end of nearly every verb. After some careful negotiation from Rhylen-and a promise that she might help him build connections with Vex-Mor’s elite-Ketra waived the repair fees entirely. She seemed far more excited by the prospect of eventually escaping Revax-19 than by company policy.
>>97795042Darian threw himself into the repairs with determined focus. He combed the ship for tracking devices while searching for a faster repair solution in case someone decided to hunt them down.Meanwhile, the rest of the crew visited the Red Fume Cantina to gather information. There they met Nera, the bartender, and quickly learned an important lesson: they should keep the Imperial Credits quiet. When locals said credits were “no good,” they didn’t mean worthless; they meant dangerously valuable. Imperial currency could buy someone a one-way ticket off Revax-19, and desperate miners would do nearly anything for that chance.Veasil immediately capitalized on the opportunity by joining a Sabacc game with a swoop biker gang known-without irony-as The Mynocks (heh). The gang possessed plenty of muscle but not much strategy. Before long, Veasil had cleaned them out of hundreds of VM chits, earning both a tidy profit and the gang’s undying resentment. A cheerful Toydarian named Anatta soon fluttered over and happily fronted Veasil the buy-in money-on the condition that he receive an introduction to Rhylen. The moment he arrived, the Toydarian revealed himself as an information broker and made it very clear that he already knew exactly who Rhylen was. Any illusion of charity vanished when he leaned closer and said: “I’ve got the information… but only if you have the credits.”Not everyone in the cantina came for drinks. A sharply dressed businessman sat quietly nearby, the Arakyd Industries logo pinned to his lapel. The crew would later regret convincing the bartender to relax the cantina’s “no droids” policy, because the man immediately noticed AX-5YN and slipped out the door. The droid quickly realized the implications and alerted the crew. Unfortunately, the damage was already in motion.
>>97795045Humiliated by their Sabacc losses-and furious that a slippery Twi’lek gambler had embarrassed them-the Mynocks swoop gang stormed toward the landing docks. Their timing could not have been worse. Darian had just discovered that Grubs’s estimate of five cycles and partial ship disassembly was complete nonsense. A competent mechanic could finish the repair overnight. He barely managed to seal the loading ramp before the swoopers surrounded the ship and demanded his surrender.Meanwhile, the rest of the crew recruited Ketra-and the single Imperial army trooper stationed in the entire town**-**to help mediate the situation.Around this time, both Rhylen and AX-5YN lost track of the Arakyd agent as he vanished into the twisting alleys of the mining settlement. Eventually, everyone converged at the docks. The swoopers demanded compensation-not so much for the money, but for their wounded pride. Rhylen’s negotiation skills and a modest payment from Veasil defused the situation. The gang left satisfied enough to avoid further violence. Ketra offered thin assurances and left behind the Imperial trooper as security. The trooper immediately began watching a swoop race on the holofeed and made it abundantly clear he had no intention of defending anything.Around that time, another local hazard revealed itself. Revax-19 suffered from violent caustic dust storms that could sweep through the outpost without warning. Ashpoint followed one simple rule during storms: "Everyone shelters together."The crew took refuge just as the storm rolled in. Fortunately, it passed quickly-though not before Rhylen spent some of his remaining credits on an actually drinkable glass of Montellian Serat wine. Veasil, meanwhile, proved perfectly content with miner-grade revnog and fuel-laced spotchka. He even joined a celebration for a retiring miner whose body had been thoroughly ruined by years of Rhydonium exposure.
>>97795053Ven Hal responded by secretly treating him as a test subject. When Rhylen realized what had happened, he and Veasil shook the cowardly Bith down, relieving him of both his credits and his serum extractor. During the confrontation, they learned something interesting: The research was funded by the Pryce-Solune family. Rhylen quietly kept that information to himself.Meanwhile, Darian had his own unusual encounter. While repairing the ship, he noticed a blind Miraluka beggar woman watching him from across the street. When he approached, she told him she had seen him in a vision. Most people, she explained, walked along one of two clear paths in life. Darian did not. Instead, he possessed a third path-one he would have to forge himself. Before leaving, she pressed a small leather charm into his hand, its surface marked with an unfamiliar symbol.As evening settled over Ashpoint, the crew prepared to rest-except for Darian, who continued working on the ship. Unfortunately, the Force had other plans: The Arakyd officiant returned, this time with Son-Tuul Rodian enforcers. He presented the crew with a simple offer: Hand over the droid, accept compensation, or deal with the consequences. Rhylen pretended to accept. He wired 5,000 credits to the agent’s account and allowed the Rodians to attach a restraining bolt to AX-5YN. The droid struggled to process what looked like betrayal. “Master…?” he asked quietly.Meanwhile, the crew set an ambush. Veasil and Darian took flanking positions while Rhylen sprinted to the cantina and shouted: “Five hundred credits per Rodian head if you come with me now.” The room went silent. Then a heavily armed man with a long blaster rifle stood up.
>>97795059Blaster fire erupted moments later. Several inexperienced Rodians fell quickly, though their leader nearly killed Darian with a barrage of precise shots. Eventually the Rodian commander retreated into an alley after destroying the mercenary’s rifle. Rhylen dove for AX-5YN, tearing off the restraining bolt.“Master… you came back for me,” the droid said with almost comical sincerity-before immediately blasting a Rodian through the face.The final Rodian attempted to escape, but Darian collapsed the alley with a well-placed shot. The effort cost him: a blaster bolt struck his chest and knocked him cold. Veasil ended the fight with a sharp one-liner and an even sharper shot from his wrist blaster.When the dust settled-both figuratively and literally-Rhylen looted the Arakyd agent’s code cylinder and a weakened personal deflector shield.The mercenary introduced himself as Kael Dennar, an Alliance operative. He warned the group that thirty stormtroopers from a nearby garrison were already on their way. Inside his safehouse, Kael revealed that he knew exactly who they were.
>>97795061The Radama crew.He knew what had happened.More importantly, he knew it had been doomed from the start.Kael explained that his own mission on Revax-19-monitoring an Imperial fuel depot-had uncovered something worse: an Imperial black site experimenting on sentient subjects.He offered them a deal. If the crew created a distraction large enough for him to infiltrate the facility, he would steal them a starship from the base—one unlikely to be tracked. Sharing their frustration with botched Rebel intelligence and poorly coordinated operations, Kael made it clear he understood exactly how they felt. After some discussion, the crew agreed.Before leaving, Kael handed them an old purple code crystal used in pulse-frequency fractal radios.“I don’t know why Radama happened,” he said. “But the person on the other end of this signal probably does.”
>>97794901Well I think for the bulk of infantry, personal shields were likely prohibitively expensive, heavy, or power-demanding to be mass-issued.
>>97793715I really hope they don't make Cal fall totally to the dark side like the ending of survivor hinted at, he's one of the few post-order 66 jedi that I genuinely really like. >>97794203>Cal and Merrin using Tanalor to build their own order of rebuilt night sisters and jedi.Would be fun if they end up being a rival of sorts to whatever Rey's building.
So have we seen Kamino at all post getting bombed to shit? I was thinking of using it for a plot hook for something I'm brainstorming.
>>97793684> it's also funny that this came out after sabine being force sensitive in ahsoka, as the "excuse" for that is "anyone can do it if they train enough!" only for the bad batch to say you need a high midichlorian count to begin with immediately afterI think this unintentionally works perfectly fine. Because, like any well-written mystical power, nobody actually knows how it works.
>>97795695Not that I'm aware of. Tell me your hook!
>>97795695The last I heard of Kamino post-Clone Wars comes from FFG “Fully Operational”, and it was saying Kamino was going through its own cultural schism as the those in charge debate engineering the next generation to be more complacent (to better survive under the heel of the Empire), or engineer them to be more defiant and independent (in preparation for a revolution). Kinda a big decision to make.
>>97795806Still a rough idea but>Players are going to be a group of bounty hunters/mercs who are loosely affiliated with the rebellion, though mostly because they pay.>Players are going to be given a series of jobs by an extremist group to kidnap 'Clone Wars-Era' scientists.>From here it really depends on if any of the players notice "hey, like 90% of the people we've captured have been kaminoan" and start asking questions.>Encounters start featuring progressively featuring more completely silent dudes with face-covers.>If anyone bothers to actually investigate, they'll realize they all look like incredibly fucked up clones troopers. Some are missing eyes, some have weirdly proportioned limbs, some don't even have a mouth, ETC.>Big bad of the whole campaign is trying to rebuild a second clone army with surviving cloning labs that sunk to the bottom of the ocean, but everything is so broken he can't get single clone that isn't horribly mutated in some way.Basically I just want to do star wars grineer I won't lie. Thought it'd be fun to play around with how badly the cloning process could go.
Andor… not very good, innit?
>>97794901The old lore, so take it with a grain of salt on canonicity with current canon, was that shields and blasters were constantly in an arms race of one constantly getting better than the other. By the time of the OT, man-portable shields that could stand up to current day blaster fire just weren't practical to haul around. Droidekas got away with shield generators because they were mechanical and didn't have to worry about the weight being a liability.And vehicles often forwent shields in favor of heavy armor because it provided pretty much the same protection, passively, for the same weight and lower cost than a shield generator that would be able to stand up to the caliber of firepower to be launched at a vehicle.Shields really proved their worth in space for space superiority starfighters, first of the Republic and then the Rebel Alliance. Keeping pilots alive to gain experience while the Tarkin Doctrine had diminishing returns as their unshielded ships killed the majority of their pilots before they could because veterans.And of course capital ships, who had the power plants available to generate the energy to make shield generators a practical investment against enemy fire.
>>97795793the problem with sabine is that it's a retcon, there is no way to justify itshe was never force sensitive, she was never hinted at being force sensitive, people joked about her being force sensitive because of how much of a mary sue she already was, and the writers SPECIFICALLY made it so she wasn't force sensitivethen it's just "oh she was always force sensitive!" and you have the retard fans who, rather than admit it's shit writing and a retcon, find measly excuses such as "george said this in the 80s" or "but this episode of rebels said this" because god forbid they criticise dave filoni for anything
>>97796079> And of course capital ships, who had the power plants available to generate the energy to make shield generators a practical investment against enemy fire.Which would explain why bases with shield generators needed to be assaulted rather than bombarded. Those shield emplacements could be as heavy as they need to be, and could have more juice fed into them than even the largest capital ships could provide.
>>97796124> the problem with sabine is that it's a retcon, there is no way to justify itOh I fully understand that it’s a retcon, and a bad one at that, but in doing such a clumsy retcon they’ve accidentally made the force seemingly mysterious by having the two claims make contradictory statements about its nature. (That anyone can become force-sensitive/only people with high counts of magic yeast can be force sensitive) and there’s proof that both are wrong and both are right.It’s a silver-lining thing.Personally I’d have kept Sabine as a non-force user. But only because I like the David vs. Goliath implications of having a “normal” person go up against Sith.Hell, just imagine a story where a team of normal dudes have to fight a Sith by themselves without any help from a Jedi because they don’t want to bend the knee to “a bully with a magic act”
>>97794901>star wars BMP-1FILONIGIVE ME THIS ON THE BIG SCREEN AND MY FANDOM IS YOURS
>>97793730>You sound terminally online.Brother, this is 4chan...
>>97796538Yes. I remember, we're here forever.No need to be a sperg about it.
>>97796124>people joked about her being force sensitive because of how much of a mary sue she already wasShe trained against Kanan with the Darksaber that one time. I guess that was Filoni testing the waters.
>>97796290>both are wrong and both are rightWar is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. May the Force beam you up. - Gandalf
Got into an argument with a friend and I need some other opinions to weigh in. We were talking about RoTS, and my two opinions are that Mace Windu would've beat Sidious if Anakin wasn't present, and that Yoda could've beat Sidious if the deaths of Order 66 weren't weighing on him. I ultimately think Sidious was extremely lucky.
>>97796067Season 1 was great.
>>97796871Windu could have won in the office, Palpatine just knew when to throw the fight and make himself look weak to subsequently play on Anakin's emotions. He made a bet on Anakin and it paid off. This isn't to say he couldn't beat Windu, just that Palpatine wanted Anakin and this was an opportunity, so he went for it.In the Yoda fight, Yoda was visibly on screen overpowering him, while Palpatine himself repeatedly tried to run away, then use lightsabers, then abandoning that for the Force, then going full lightning, and Yoda just kept coming through every tactic he tried. Yoda's failure there was that he was able to win, but he wasn't able to win fast enough. He had a limited window of time to do it before Sidious had help arrive and everything went to shit, and he just couldn't do it in the allotted window. It doesn't matter if he could beat Palpatine in twenty minutes when he only has five.
>>97796871Both you and your friend are clinically retarded because Sidious could never ever have been defeated by anyone but Anakin, as per the prophecy. Cosmologically speaking, neither of them had ever had a chance. If you deal in the realm of pure hypotheticals disconnected from the actual canon, Yoda maybe could have a chance. Mace - no way.
>>97796871>>97797698Based except for one thingThe RotS novel (written based on a slightly earlier but overall generally similar script for the film) straight up says Yoda did not have ANYWHERE close to the power required to beat Sidious"This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known... just-didn't-have it. He'd never had it. He had lost before he started." Granted the book mostly puts this to being because the Sith rebuilt themselves and the Jedi became stagnant but with other media the clear implication is Sidious was leagues above YodaAs for Mace, he technically DID win the fight per Lucas but that was because he held himself back, doing a swordfight with someone who he knew got better at fighting Dark Side users and barely using the Force and then an obvious lightning attack which got easily countered. Palpatine did all of this because he knew Anakin was coming, he could have beaten Mace had he just used the Force more easily but he wanted Anakin to do it. The novel has it be kinda weird but from what I remember there is a vague implication that what Mace thinks is Sidious' shatterpoint, his trust in Anakin, may have actually been Anakin's shatterpoint and he got fooled hard by Sidious mentally. Anakin knowing Palpatine trusts him was a very strong point for his turn since he was well aware the Jedi, including Obi-Wan to an extent, distrusted him to the point of denying him the rank of master and access to the archivesAlternatively you can believe this is the one part the novel got wrong, idkOverall it makes no sense for Mace or Yoda to actually have a chance against Sidious because as the other anon said, the Prophecy is the main point of the franchise.
>>97796612it wasn't, there wasn't any hint in that episode and a rebels writer said as much>“It was absolutely not the plan… we really felt that not only did it step on Ezra’s story… it was a weak retread, we already did this,” reflected Henry Gilroy, a senior writer and executive producer on Star Wars Rebels, in a recent episode of Pod of Rebellion, the Rebels cast’s own rewatch podcast series. According to Gilroy, the potential of Sabine discovering her Force sensitivity was an idea floated during Rebels, but ultimately dismissed by the writing team. “The idea of Sabine training as a Jedi when she is already this fantastic warrior of her own type, we felt like, ‘This is overkill.'”https://gizmodo.com/sabine-jedi-mistake-rebels-ahsoka-star-wars-2000687600it's a filoni retcon because it's HIS oc
I listened to some recent AMG interviews >Mandos will be more than a battleforce, less than a faction>play options include a gorillion clans like the Death Watch, Children of the Watch, Wren, Kryze, Saxon, as well as a generic clan>the generico is actually /your dudes/, you will be able to customise your clan doctrine And specific unit rules for your armyAMG-sama... I kneel...
>>97798256Also, there will be a way for mandos to steal peoples' vehicles.
>>97798261my mando's come from the romani clan
>>97797880So even the writers and cast told filoni it was a terrible idea and he did it anyway? In his own show, ten years later? lmaoThis franchise is so fucking fucked
>>97798335Okay, cool. Bet their ships are super-colorful…Oh, I’m sorry, was that supposed to be some kind of rage-bait? I’m so sorry…
>>97798396The writers just need to go back to the well. You don’t get great Star Wars stories by taking from other Star Wars stories. You get them from fantasy stories and fairy tales, which they should be familiar with, they’re owned by Disney for Christ’s sake!
My portrait of Omega
>>97794630He is canon but he doesn't have the crazy Clone Wars level of regeneration.
>>97798396Dude have you not realized yet? Filoni plans to replace every since character in SW with his self inserts. Ahsoka is the Yoda character, Ezra is Luke, Kanan is Obi-Wan, Hera is Han, Sabine is Leia (Filfaggot is a known feminist who wanted the ST to focus on Leia being badass and was likely a proponent for Luke being a bumbling retard in TLJ) his clones kinda play the Rebel leader tropes and his inquisitors replace Vader and Sheev. He has aquired so much influence that Ahsoka appears in more Disney media THAN LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER, despite being a fucking rando nobody cares about except TCWfags.He has actively ruined not just the EU with his show self inserting itself into a stable multimedia project and shitting all over writers who were united in a single coherent story, not only fucked over Lucas by not getting rid of Ahsoka and doing Rebels, but has hijacked SW to be his little playbox where only allowed writers can help him and if you do something he dislikes, even if HE SUPPORTED IT at one point, he WILL piss all over it when convenient (see: him retconning his own canon Ahsoka novel and Kanan's backstory for Sad Batch)If only now you realized Filoni will gladly step over everyone to do whatever he has a boner for at the moment, you're late to the party bub
>>97798256Sounds about like what I'd expect.I guess all the Mythosaur-affiliated mandos can replace their affilition with Clan Wren, Clan Kryze, Maul Loyalist or Din's sect and get the corresponding keyword to buff them.Maul Loyalists will probably get the "Fell for the Sith retardation again" keyword or something.The Generics do sound cool. I wonder if they'll be very customizable like the Super-Tactical Droid or more lik 4 chassis like what's on the GWC generics.I wonder when they'll be released. Their slide said July but the roadmap said Q4.>>97798261Guess that'll work like Chewie AT-ST or Shadow Collective's A-A5>Clan Wren gets Landspeeders and A-A5>Clan Kryze gets LAAT and ISP or Saber tank>Din's sect gets the A-A5, maybr an AT-ST or even nothing to show they are closer to hobos than the usual mando murderhobo>Maul's Loyalist get the Pirate tank and A-A5
>>97799092> focus on Leia being badass and was likely a proponent for Luke being a bumbling retard in TLJ)Umm, wasn’t it pretty much already just a known fact in the fandom that Leia was a capable and competent heroine?
>>97799157It was and Leia is a actual female protagonist done rightBut feminists like Filfaggot don't like that because she was still kinda secondary to the main MAIN protagonists (Luke, Han and Vader) and was more in a secondary protagonist role like Chewie, the droids, Ben and Yoda. So SW under his command (because he already had widespread influence under Kennedy) pushed for the classic heroes to be losers and retardsThis is why the Kenobi show focused on little Leia being the reason Ben got his shit together and heckin' won against the dark while Luke remains at home being a crybaby left while Obi-Wan goes on his grand adventures. Because Filoni genuinely despises Luke just for existing
>>97761496During wartimes like the clone wars or old republic shenanigans, it made sense.
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>>97799157>a known fact in the fandomWell yes, but everyone at Lucasfilm took idiocy pills and forgot the EU, Lucas' scripts and decades of games and comics.
I like the idea that Luke is so freakishly strong that his eyes are white, opposite of sith's red eyes.
>>97799701>"Hi, Flashheart here. Yeah, cancel the state funeral, tell Ackbar to stop blubbing, Flash is "not" dead! I simply ran out of "juice"! Yeah, and before all the girls start saying, Oh, what's the point of living anymore, I'm talking about Tibanna! Woof, woof! Yeah, I dumped the X-Wing on the Imperials, so send a land-speeder. General Melchett's driver should do. She hangs around with the big nobs, so she'll be used to a fellow like me! Woof, woof!!" >"No, not in half an hour, you rubber-desk johnny. Send the bitch with the speeder right now, or I'll fly back to Alderaan and give your wife something to hang her towels on!"
>>97800049If anything, shouldn't he be on the Imperial side since it's the Empire which is doomed to fall whereas the Rebellion really isn't? Plus Blackadder's sardonic british style is far more Imperial than the Rebels which tend to be American and hopeful go-gettersOn the other hand, a Blackadder-type Rebel alongside his corresponding Baldrick, George, Darling and Melchett would be really interesting
>>97800284Honestly, it should be set in the Clone Wars then.
>>97800049To keep it more Star Wars, i would have gone with "Borsk Fey'lya's driver is used to hanging around big nobs"
I like this random girl Crosshair was hanging out with something about her seems familiar
>>97798256>>play options include a gorillion clans like the Death Watch, Children of the Watch, Wren, Kryze, Saxon, as well as a generic clanAaaaand all hype is lost
