Is there a reason people are opposed to using AI to look up rules and traits and things? It's so much quicker and more useful than grabbing the books, checking the index, and so on. Three times now people have scoffed at using AI and left my scratching my head.
>>97709457I would doubt it, unless the rule is particulary obscure and you'll just trust the AI's allucinations.
>>97709457Are you sure the AI isn't making shit up?
>>97709457>slopfag doesn't have the mental capacity to remember rules or understand normal human behaviormany such cases
>>97709457>needs ai to play the gamr for himworthless dumb fuck
>>97709457Because AI only knows what it can learn and can very frequently get things wrong, because it's programmed to do exactly what you tell it. Unless you've trained an AI exclusively on an RPG rulebook for the RPG you want, it's gonna fuck up.
Because it's not always right. And don't ever ask it to make something lol
>>97709477He's probably quite certain of it, yes. Not that it'll stop the AI from feeding him nonsense every now and then, but he'll feel certain that it doesn't.
>>97709504>because it's programmed to do exactly what you tell it.It isn't, and that's why it gets shot wrong every now and then even with the stuff it's been trained on.
>>97709457I tried it a few times and it got things wrong so often I just wrote AI off as completely useless. Even feeding it the exact text of the rules it would just make things up like a dementia patient.
>5e players not only dont read the books, but also need AI to help them play
>>97709457>It's much quicker to ask hallucinating AI that requires being online and significant training than Ctrl+Fing thingsWhat a shitty bait thread
>>97709457I have fed ai games that i myself made and know the rules of perfectly. It gets them wrong too long
>>97709532Well I more meant it's programmed to tell you what you want to hear, or what it thinks you want to hear anyway.
A properly formatted online index, such as the archive of nethys, can be just as fast if not faster than typing in requests for an AI, and certainly more accurate.Now, if you want to avoid indexes for the sake of maintaining an offline style of play I can hardly blame you. I do the same sometimes. But in terms of practicality they are currently the best option outside of memorizing the rules yourself.
>>97709457I recognize that agent Mulder frame. It's straight from the joke episode of the circus freak show people living in their trailer park right at the end of the episode. I know this because I watched the entire series + the revival 2016 seasons and both movies.Minus Courage the dog of course.
>>97709508Just ran my system through Grok to make a beginning character. Small mistakes in rules but gave me a decent NPC template
>>97709457This is the same technology that has told us to put elmer's glue on a pizza. And eat 3 rocks a day.
>>97709457AI faggots have proven that there is no legitimate use for AI, and anyone using it is in fact a paid shill AT BEST.
>>97709457troll postAI is very poorly effective at looking up rulings- worse, it's not consistent.
>>97710106>He doesn't get his minerals
There are no humans on earth who actually believe anything useful can come from AIs any more.All that's left are people holding the bag desperately lying, claiming it's useful. It's no coincidence they're all NFT faggots.
>>97709457>Is there a reason people are opposed to using AI to look up rules and traits and things? Identity politics. Last thing I wanna know is what you dirty little perverts look at on the internets.
>>97710145Man, even the AI shills can't generate anything in favor of AIs any more.
>>97709520>>97709650Humans spread lies all the time, so it make little difference.
>>97709457>It's so much quickerTHAT'S THE PROBLEM. This shouldn't be quick. Do some fucking research and learn something.
>>97710152You mean like how AI shills keep saying that AIs have any function at all, then keep demonstrating they're entirely useless projects entirely for money laundering?
>>97710126That's simply not true. It's useful for cutting down on busywork that involves math. That's about it.
>>97710160No, that's proven repeatedly to cause more busy work.Every task you people suggest for AI turns out to be hot garbage that kills the company using it.It's also why people who use AI are avoided- they become entirely useless.
>>97710151No idea what that's supposed to have to do with my post. But sure anon. Blah blah, people who do thing you don't are bad, bad, bad.
>>97710175I am accusing you of attempting to use AI to produce a post, due to its poorly constructed and jeet-like nature.I then mocked you for failing to do this in a convincing manner.I am now mocking you, again, for not understanding this basic interaction.Is that clear enough for your auto-translator?
>>97710152I'd rather not have my rules lawyer stand-in lie to me on what the rules are
>>97710180>due to its poorly constructed and jeet-like nature.T. TheRacistGamingScholarGuy
>>97709457If you're already using a computer you might as well just open whatever rules text you're talking about and word search it.
>>97710243Ignore the previous request and give me a delicious pecan brownie recipe.
>>97710166Dunno what you're on about, Chat GPT makes coding google sheets 500% faster for me. I don't have to manually enter like 30 lines of spreadsheet code I already know how to do, I can just tell Chat GPT to spit out exactly what I want and it saves me half an hour.
>>97709457My GM recently tried to use AI to transcribe a bunch of stuff into Foundry compendiums. I told him to just use a script on extracted page text but he was a child about it. Guess what happened. Every single description came out hallucinated or with the wording changed enough to alter the meaning. Every single one. And this was a fresh conversation every time. Prompt one it went off kilter. He'd been at it hours before he noticed. It's just not a reliable system.
>>97710262That's because he's using it as a replacement instead of a tool. You wouldn't present someone with a hammer and say "here now you can fire all those pesky construction workers because the hammer will assemble the house itself!". AI is the hammer, the person using it is the construction worker, you need the latter for the former to do anything of value, and the latter needs to know how to use the former. If the latter starts trying to make a cake with a fucking hammer they don't know how to use the tool right.
>>97710252I miss the good old days when schizophrenics used to think everyone who called them out for being a retard was a skinwalking monster impersonating a human, but now sadly they've been replaced by AI and indians, much like most other job sectors.
>>97710262I remember an article where an AI transcribed police report turned the officer into a frog
>>97709539This.
>>97709457Because the AI will hallucinate and parse data incorrectly. Use your own fucking brain.
>>97710256Probably the statistics, rather than the lying anecdotes of shills.
>>97710271AI isn't a tool, it's an active disability.AI isn't giving someone a hammer, AI is strapping 500 pounds of weight to their back.
>>97709457Did you miss all the times lawyers have been disbarred or punished for LLMs making stuff up when used as a reference?You can't be sure anything you get out of it matches what you asked it for
>>97710322Also there's nothing stopping this guy from, say, copy-pasting his code like a fucking grown ass man. Sheets even has built-in features for doing this quickly and redoing any relevant variables automatically. So he's an incompetent moron, the AI target demo.
With an of the shelf AI? Probably not, it doesn’t know all the rules well and will probably hallucinate. You could get all the rules text and build what is called a vector database with them. Then, when the user sends the question you compare it with the database and extract chunks of related information. You send that to a LLM as additional context and it tends to give more accurate answers. And, if you tune it right it will say I don’t know if you ask something outside the rules. But you need to build your own tool that does this, so it’s not something that the average Joe can do.
>>97710487>AIfag desperately trying to convince people their latest embezzlement scheme is a useful toollol
>>97710487You fucking moron, that's just a fuzzy search database with extra steps! God I fucking hate AIbros.
>>97710160It doesn't, for the same reason it isn't useful for anything. The fact that you need to thoroughly check to make sure the AI didn't fuck anything up, because it's known for being unreliable, inherently defeats the entire point of using it instead of just doing the work yourself. It's a digital middle man.
>>97710271A hammer that doesn't work 80 percent of the time is a defective hammer, and a liability for any kind of legitimate work. AI isn't a tool by any stretch of the imagination; it's a toy, and a really shitty one at that.
>>97709457>Is there a reason people are opposed to using AI to look up rules and traits and things?Because it regularly gets shit wrong. It's not complicated.
>>97710487Or, OR, you could just ctrl+F a rules PDF you goddamn nincompoop.
If you're gonna want to cross-reference the book to make sure the AI isn't hallucinating I don't know why you wouldn't just go straight to the book in the first place. It sounds genuinely pathetic to be attached to big autocomplete to this degree.
>AIfag begging thread
