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If a wizard turned your six inch penis into a one inch penis the leftover mass to energy would be more devastating than the Hiroshima bomb
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Wizards are retarded
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>>97710539
>Not adding the leftover penile mass to your own
Come on this is Wizardry 101
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>>97710539
What game?
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>>97710841
Given the nuclear physics interpretation of magic i would say Discworld, therefore GURPS.
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>>97710539
If the game world has magic, real world physics wouldn't apply to its learning, usage, or immediate consequences.
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Shut the fuck up matterjeet.
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>>97710539
Thanksfully, if he turned my penis into a 1inch one there'd barely be enough energy to boil pasta
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>>97711014
My condolences.
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>>97710985
>magical fireball wouldn't light things on fire
>magical ice would not be cold
>magical lightning bolt would not be conducted by electricity
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>>97710841
kys jannylarper
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>>97710539
Baby, you don't need to do that to see a blinding explosion.
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>>97710539
I already transferred all my penile length into girth in anticipation of this very attack. As he attempts to "decrease" my donger to a mere one inch, my penis, at that time shaped similarly to a satellite dish, would suddenly expand outwards like a heated can of beans, absorbing the unsuspecting wizard's energy in a single moment as he shrivels up into a dessicated raisin.
I don't even have counterspell prepared.
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>>97710545
Fpbp
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>>97711218
>magical fireball wouldn't light things on fire
Depending on how the spell works, not necessarily.
You could have magical fire that burns indiscriminately, if that's what the spell is meant to do.
You could have another magical fire spell that covers a wide area, but only ignites what the caster wants it to.
You could have magical fire that when it engulfs someone, it heals their injuries and soothes their pain.
It's fucking magic, it already doesn't obey the laws of conservation of mass and energy.

>magical ice would not be cold
Same as above.

>magical lightning bolt would not be conducted by electricity
Same as above.
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>>97711243
Ban me with your jannypowers if my comment offends you so, pedo.
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>>97711014
Thank you for your sacrifice.
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See this is why magic HAS to be sourced to some higher dimensional alien fuckery to even begin justifying witches turning men into frogs.
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>>97711477
It’s obviously aliens. Magic is always too conveniently considerate, arbitrarily powerful, fair for the sake of being fair. Just like religion, hocus pocus is a game to entertain. Ancient Greeks thought witchcraft was bullshit but would still tell you “best to entertain it anyway just in case there are any jokester demons around to reinforce the charade”. Magic and religion are sinister in implication. No well intentioned intelligence would hype reality up in such a way.
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>Hiroshima gets another Little Man
How unfortunate for both the men and the city. They can't even catch a break.
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>>97711524
The capital-g God wouldn’t see itself as a capital-g god
The capital-w Wizard wouldn’t see itself as a capital-w wizard
Etc
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>>97711541
b-but the bible says
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>>97711541
>The capital-g God wouldn’t see itself as a capital-g god
...Why the fuck not? This is a pretty dumb statement. An omnipotent deity knows its an omnipotent deity.
>The capital-w Wizard wouldn’t see itself as a capital-w wizard
This is even dumber somehow. They reshape reality with their big brains. Most wizards think they're The Wizard, or will become so one day.
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>>97712542
Do you see yourself as a god to an ant? in relative terms yes. But is it worth starting a religion? God’s miracles won’t be miraculous to himself. Gandalf isn’t a wizard back home in Valinor the same way the elves aren’t magical to themselves. They’re only magical to men. Wizards are actors.
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>>97712558
You actually don't understand what omnipotence means and are stuck on the
>if everything is special nothing is
bullshit that's only feasible to maintain if you're deeply ignorant of yourself and the world. So I suppose that makes sense, given how dumb you are.
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>>97712572
I think I’ve broken your brain.
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>>97710539
>Conservation of energy
>Magic

Stick to trying to break economics, lad.
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>>97712686
All magic comes from somewhere. Cope.
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>>97710539
Finally, proper counterplay to this.
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>>97712692
>All magic comes from somewhere.
Beyond nature, and thus, beyond the laws of physics.
Dilate.
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>>97712899
Beyond-physics is still physics. Physics of the beyond.
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>>97712938
Nope.
Physics is strictly natural.
And in a fantasy game where there are impossible or improbable aspects, there are things that can be beyond the natural.
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>>97713028
Natural philosophy won out. If anything exists, it is natural. What isn't natural is just relative to our misunderstanding of it. Cope.
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>>97712938
This depends entirely on how "mythical" the setting is because while some treat magic, good, and evil and so on as having defined (if somewhat convoluted) rules of operation, others just have things be completely incomprehensible to mortal minds and it's thus left as "magic" or "such is the will of the god(s)".
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>>97713074
this applies to real life, not fiction where things do not have to abide by defined laws of reality
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>>97713092
>>97713100
Reality is reality. It doesn’t matter if it’s a fictional reality. Cope.
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*COUNTERSPELL* BITCH!
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>>97713106
think youre the one doing the coping here, fiction is fiction, lol.
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>>97713074
Dilate.
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>>97710840
Bro... You want another man's penis to touch yours?
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>>97713629
Fantasy doesn’t trump logic sorry.
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>>97713639
That's me touching their penis, its less gay that way.
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>>97713778
This. Logic is in fact the birthplace of fantasy. Questioning our limitations.
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>>97710539
Is the joke here that my penis was never six inches to begin with and you are insinuating its an itty bitty sissy clitty?
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>>97713639
How do you think people turn into Wizards in the first place? Sacrifices must be made, anon. No one said it would be pretty maidens all the time
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>>97713639
I counterspelled the original spell anyway here >>97713110
So none of you have to worry about penises touching, ok? Just chill, man
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>>97713778
Sorry that you can't imagine an apple and turn it.
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>>97716148
Sorry that you’re retarded enough to think that aphantasia is a real thing.
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>>97716167
>he's in denial
Dilate.
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>>97716173
>he’s doubling down
Have sex.
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>>97716167
It is tho. Documented, tested, proven. What's your problem?
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>>97710539
The leftover penis mass converts to magic sparkles you idiot- modern artists are just lazy and don't properly illustrate
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>>97716218
>It is tho. Documented, tested, proven
>Trust The Science Bro
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>>97716289
I got my source where so the tried and true scientists got theirs: your mom's crusty labia
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>>97716313
You seem pretty obsessed with my mother.
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>>97716370
Well she is the town bicycle.
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>>97716666
Seething Satan mad he fucked a rotting wench and gave himself STDs
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>>97711366
I see you've decided to start projecting in every thread, is this some post purim thing?
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>>97713113
How can there even be a reality when its laws are constantly broken by wizards?
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>>97712558
>Do you see yourself as a god to an ant?
Not at all you retard, that is a delusion that psychos have when they trample an anthill. A capital G God knows what it is and also knows that it's the source of all existence as well as its apex.
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>>97718956
>Not at all you retard, that is a delusion that psychos have when they trample an anthill
God a psycho for causing the Flood? Yes I agree wholeheartedly. The Jewish God is a Wrathful Fuck.
>A capital G God knows what it is and also knows that it's the source of all existence as well as its apex.
The Monad, Nous, etc, would consider itself God? Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not in the way the Bible portrays.
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>>97718443
The fuck you on about? Just ban me already with your janny powers or are you too fat to do that even?
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>>97719110
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>>97719074
>The Monad, Nous, etc, would consider itself God?
It would necessarily have to.
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>>97716370
I'm sorry
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>>97710539
My hummble one-inch penis has the density of 6 inches! Nothings harder than me!

Or is the Wizard just handing out chodes for free?
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>>97720006
Only relatively, comparatively, at the bare minimum. The same way a human is technically godlike to an ant, comparatively speaking. I don’t think existence as a whole would bother to care for what humans think of it. We project on to it, assuming it would think like us, and perceive itself like us.
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>>97720891
>monad
>only relatively
You don't understand at least one of those words.
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>>97721304
I feel like you’re being intentionally obtuse here.
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>>97721498
That's cute. I know you're just fucking dumb.
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>>97711218
Yeah.
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>>97711477
justifying?
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>>97712596
Ironic.
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>>97722056
There’s just no other way. That sort of conditioning implies intelligent design.
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lol wizards
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What a retarded thread
You can tell it triggered the escapist rotted physics haters though; for that alone it has my unwarranted respect
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>97728129
no (you) 4 u
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>>97713074
>Natural philosophy won out
I think thats a cope out anon.
I understand the peopoe who genuinly can't see another way, but here you are awere things could be diferrent if you just change the philosophy.
No one here is trying to argue they can cast small penis in real life , in the context of a pice of art it is expected they could use any philosophy they want.
Not the one that "won".
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>>97710539
This is assuming full mass -> energy conversion, something even actual nukes don't do. Full on E=mc^2 is only reasonable for matter-antimatter anihillation.
It's entirely possible the wizard only breaks the chemical bonds of the most important protein structures holding your cock together, orders of magnitude less than a nuclear reaction. This would of course produce some leftovers, such as turning the other 5 inches into goo or dust or gas (goo being more reasonable).
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>>97711265
Thank U based Kevin Siembieda
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>>97728936
The coping one here is you, friend.

Nature is physics is reality is existence is math. Is it real? Does it exist? It’s nature.
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>>97729557
if its so universal anon, then fiction doesn't have to change anything.

your thought patern only works if everything is nature, expect certain philosophies you don't like , and you must not write about those philosophies, because it goes against the will of nature.
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>>97710841
The one you play. You do play games, right?
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I funny know why you guys are even discussing this because I counterspelled the original spell way up there itt. So the whole point is moot. I do like the in-depth physics discussions though because I'm a stone cold idiot that can't even come inside when it's raining. I can admit that. So long and thanks for the keks
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>>97710539
lol
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>>97729573
>still being retarded
Grim
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The conservation of mass is lame and gay
The square cube law is lame and gay
/thread
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skedaddle skedoodle, your wenis is now a noodle
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>>97739354
Kek
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>>97739354
Nooo stoooop!!! :(((
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>>97713629
>definition fag can't into semantics
wow imagine that
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>>97739354
I don't have a penis
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>>97710957
No one plays GURPS
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>>97746889
Correct, you have a noodle
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>>97710539
It depends on the system.
Sometimes they just move the 5 inches of the cock somewhere else like inside your colon.
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>>97728997
you raise an interesting question tho
to what degree can magic alter physical properties? you already mentioned that direct mass to energy conversion would be stupid but the chemical reaction raises even more questions...
do I as a wizard have to understand basic chemistry to dissolve the proteins making up your dick or does it "come naturally" and I just dissolve your dick by magical chemistry without actually realizing I'm splitting up your protein chains? can I make anything with this magic as long as it's chemically possible? where does the energy powering the process come from/go to?
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>>97729557
you were actually right until the math part. mathematics is a self perpetuating system that's entirely founded upon its own axioms with no outside proof being possible. profs and college hacks will fume at the mouth but noone will actually debunk this
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>>97748038
>mathematics is a self perpetuating system that's entirely founded upon its own axioms with no outside proof being possible
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>>97749376
Blows my mind how people think math doesn’t exist. It goes along WITH existence. It cannot be removed. Inseparable. If anything exists at all there will be essential quantification to it. An essential shape. Math is the shape existence takes. Fuck. Even a nothing is a something. In a state of absolute nothingness a zero becomes a one. The smallest point of existence. Mathematical rules are embedded into the physical existence of our universe. Atomic bonds will always have geometry to them.
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>>97749410
Most humans don’t even know how ambient/ancient science is.
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Bad thread
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FUCK physics reee
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>>97711265
KEK
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>>97710539
Id take that as a compliment
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I obviated this whole thread. Get on my level B-)
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>>97711350
And the second you add any of these cooler special effects, the fireball is not fireball anymore, it's Tera Firenova EX and the flames are reddish purple now.
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>>97712558
>Do you see yourself as a god to an ant?
If ants were capable of religion im sure some would worship the colossal creatures who, unlike the other titans, are uniquely able to use the elements of the world to exterminate their kind en masse.
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>>97712899
>magic is beyond nature
Entirely post-modern idea. For millenia and across cultures, magic was (and in the case of superstition, still is) believed to just be another part of the natural world.
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>>97716218
>Documented, tested, proven
If you can throw a paper wad into a trashcan, you dont have aphantasia. And no, they dont test this.
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>>97762545
Explain your logic on the throwing a paper wad into a trashcan because I don't get it. Feel free to call meba midwit while you do so because I feel like one at the moment
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>>97749376
Blown the fuck out
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>>97711265
Yeah, I'm essentially playing Jack from Pitch Black so he would be turning a vag into a penis.
Physically, this would suck a nuclear explosion worth of mass energy out of him. System-wise this would confuse everyone as our game doesn't have magic.
Culturally this would make him Jewish
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Notice how the math hating retard left the moment he got btfo
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>>97769134
kys
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>>97749376
Nature is so pretty ;_;
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>>97774066
You think cancer is pretty?
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>>97776358
>all nature is cancer
Damn we got a real live Captain Planet villain posting on /tg/, sweet
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>>97776358
Crabs are pretty
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>>97710539
>If a wizard turned your six inch penis into a one inch penis the leftover mass to energy would be more devastating than the Hiroshima bomb
Why Nigeria isn't covered with nuclear mushrooms then, huh?
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>>97781563
Why Nigeria? Why not Somalia?
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>>97787034
He's making an anthropological joke about the belief in penis-stealing witches, endemic to that region.
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>>97788003
Oh. I think I read an article about that once.
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>>97710545
/thread
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>>97716167
>Can't imagine aphantasia
Lol lmao even
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>>97748023
In theory they wouldn't have to know shit, other than be able to cause heat somehow, hit a high enough temperature and everything is denaturing/vaporising/breaking bonds/or pyrolising
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>>97748038
Math autist professors are probably the one's who would INSIST that Mathematics is an inherently self-consistent "formal logic" rather than any sort of "empirical" relation to the world
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>>97749410
It's the other way around though, Physics/reality takes the "shape" of a subset of "possible" mathematics "available"
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>>97728997
>This would of course produce some leftovers, such as turning the other 5 inches into goo or dust or gas (goo being more reasonable).

>Several grams of solid nitrogen compounds turn into gas.

I'd rather the penile matter just turned into energy so I wouldn't have to stick around to witness the outcome.
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>>97793548
Nah. Math and physics are inseparable. Saying one comes before the other makes no sense. Math IS a form of physics, once you realize how embedded it is into reality. It IS reality.
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>>97793548
He didn’t imply that wasn’t the case. He’s implying it “cannot be removed”.
>>97797022
The complexity of physics however stems from the basest of mathematics.
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>>97710539
Yes. Very funny. Moving along.
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>>97714225
Fantasy is an absence of logic per definition, cope
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>>97762524
>ideas about how the world works changes as understanding about how the world works evolves
Imagine that.
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>>97762524
If I believed gasoline is tea, would that make it so everyone can drink it, consequence-free?
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>>97799400
And yet it is born from logic. Cope.
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>>97762524
What’s funny is that morons still think the unnatural, the supernatural, etc, isn’t just a relative state of looking at something. It has never been a literal something.
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Ugh
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>>97799400
The absence of logic only transpires because we have logic to compare its absence to, you big silly.
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>>97800888
Yeah, relatively speaking, things that are supernatural are superior to the physical and natural world, and things that are unnatural are merely beyond the physical and natural world.
These things can't happen in real life, of course, because everything that is a part of our physical and natural world belongs to it, but fantasy addresses the impossible and improbable aspects of a hypothetical world that doesn't function like our own. A fantasy world can have things that are truly unnatural and supernatural to it because of this freedom.
What really confuses the shitskin ESLs is when you tell them a fantasy world can have things that are natural to it, that are unnatural to us, while simultaneously having things that are super/unnatural to it; they are already incapable of thinking in simple hypotheticals like "how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast thos morning", but this particular hypothetical goes even deeper than that and fries their sub-80 IQ brains.
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>>97804758
>Yeah, relatively speaking, things that are supernatural are superior to the physical and natural world
The same way a pocket lighter is superior to flint and tinder. But the pocket lighter is only relatively supernatural, to someone from the past, or to someone who doesn’t know what such a thing is. The unnatural is the unfamiliar.

The incomprehensible horror that some wizard summons isn’t exactly incomprehensible to itself. They are natural (incomprehensible to us) to themselves. The ways of humans might be incomprehensible to some other hypothetical form of life that has sufficient blind spots, and vice versa.
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>>97804898
A supernatural flame would be more like a flame that only burns what the caster desires even among other highly flammable objects, as opposed to a natural flame that burns indiscriminately.
The supernatural flame doesn't exist in our world, because that's not how energy transfer and thermodynamics works, but it could exist in a fantasy world in which it has an attachment to magic, or other established supernatural power that violates other laws of physics.

And as far as the incomprehensible to us/comprehensible to them thing is concerned, that is just repeating my point of unnatural to us/natural to them back to me. Hopefully you can take your mind a step further and understand that a work of fantasy can also have unnatural to us/unnatural to them cases, because a fantasy world isn't reality and can have impossible and improbable aspects.
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>>97806353
>A supernatural flame would be more like a flame that only burns what the caster desires even among other highly flammable objects, as opposed to a natural flame that burns indiscriminately.
>The supernatural flame doesn't exist in our world, because that's not how energy transfer and thermodynamics works
A flame is still a flame. Even a selective burn is still a burn. Doesn’t matter how weird the physics leading up to said burn is. Sigh.
>Hopefully you can take your mind a step further and understand that a work of fantasy can also have unnatural to us/unnatural to them cases, because a fantasy world isn't reality and can have impossible and improbable aspects.
You’re free to create fictional realities with “impossible to improbable” happenings, but those fictional realities are still nonetheless assumed to be (unreal/fictional) realities. Physics. What is “unnatural” is just weird unfamiliar physics. Does it piss you off? “It ain’t natural!”.
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>>97806353
>The supernatural flame doesn't exist in our world, because that's not how energy transfer and thermodynamics works
But it exists within its world, where energy does things differently. It’s only supernatural from our angle. To natives from that dimension it might just be a normal thing.
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>shitskin ESL retards still continue to prove their inability to read, inability to separate fiction from reality, and inability to think in layered hypotheticals
I've wasted enough energy on you faggots.
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>>97809442
You hate logic.
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>>97710539
Ok
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Real life is gay
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>>97816520
It isn’t. You just haven’t found satisfaction yet.
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>>97710539
Haha penis
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>>97710539
the wizard in your picture would listen to that information and then go through with it anyway
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>>97719110
Jannies don't have ban powers, only mods do. You'd know this if this wasn't your first day on 4chan.
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>>97822713
Jannies summon the moderators. The moderators do their bidding.
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Wizard threads always seem to be about math and genitals.
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>>97729578
I like to think of myself as someone who would play games.
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>>97827368
And?
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>>97710539
Fuck off.
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>>97832965
Fuck ON.
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No
That’s not how the magic works
Shut the fuck up
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>>97835372
How would you know?
Are you a wizard?



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