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>>97712322https://imgchest.com/p/dl7p68mg34ohttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxR5CDFOxGsDOXVXX0l1QlFQSmM?resourcekey=0-m3Sgz0KfXboCE4P9KMHZ4A>In the 5th Epoch:Celrog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97685926Warrior Angel https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97688599Ego Death Offer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694267Luckiest Bastard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97690702Clueless Mommy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692134Laurence Rubelle https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694187Eyes that Bind https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97699439All-in-One https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694728Mommy God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700581Castiya Heir https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97705238>In Modern Day:Engineer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97696856The Omniscient https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97707387The Wizard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97706196The Baleful https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97687096The Enlightener https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692424https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693124https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481Thief of Hearts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693768GOO Servant https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696060https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666The Hacker Known as 4chin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700984https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700991Wise Holy Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97704995Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97706674
>>97712327I've had a weird mental block... but I will overcome it, I will complete the build... I can't give up...
>Adapt an unapproachable progression fantasy doorstopper.>Steal Lovecraft imagery like that's automatically scary or deep.>Openly write that being strong is a trap option.>Multiclassing is a trap option.>Playing the CYOA is a trap option.>Lie that you don't write trap options when readers press you about it.>There is a background character whose only job is crashing this setting with no survivors.>Before that the player god will be mindraped or vored by a stronger god.>Blame insanity on psychic compulsion instead of engaging with your own existential horror.>Know that you're untouchable when you combine the most annoying fandom with your author cult.>Only adapt a wide and shallow class system that was the least interesting thing about the canon characters.>Be Aromage.>Pic unrelated.
Post danmachiOtherwise the mouse cute doesn’t wake up
>>97712322>Divine Candidates in Modern Day:Engineer: Paragon, Demon of Knowledge https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97696856The Omniscient: White Tower, God Almighty https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97707387The Wizard: Hermit, Demon of Knowledge https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97706196The Baleful: Abyss https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97687096The Enlightener: Paragon, Demon of Knowledge https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692424[Name]: Demoness, Calamity of Destruction https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693124[Name]: Twilight Giant, Eternal Darkness https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481Thief of Hearts: Error https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693768GOO Servant: Hanged Man, Fool https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696060[Name]: Door, Lord of Mysteries https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666The Hacker Known as 4chin: Key of Light https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700984[Name]: Black Emperor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700991Wise Holy Man: White Tower, God Almighty https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97704995Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer: Death https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97706674Who will likely succeed? Who will likely fail? Rate their odds!Regardless of their odds, who do you want to succeed or fail?Note: Candidates are determined based on their stated goals. Lacking those, they are determined based on the presence/absence of Blessed, Tacit Agreement, and Uniqueness in their build.
>>97712356NO pls dont
The most overpowered cheat in CYOA is a language cheat. Imagine being able to communicate even with spirits and not look like a jackass.
>>97712362You added me, thanks anon.
Build anon missed my build and I will never ever forgive him for this slight
What's the problem people have with Danmachi? I frequent the threads too rarely and since too little time to understand the shitposting, and lurking more isn't working.
>>97712490bad franchisemiddling cyoaterrible posters
>>97712490Problem? We LOVE Danmachi!
>he doesn’t want to be a cute and innocent white haired red eyed youth attracting all the ladies
>>97712496>bad franchiseTendentially agree>middling cyoaI have some problem with it but tendentially it doesn't seem particularly low-quality to me, and my biggest issues come from the franchise>terrible postersWhy?
The top 3 families aren’t worth joining that’s why I don’t like the cyoa
>>97712511It's a show for children, and you're looking at its adult fans. They're the Japanese equivalent of ponyfags.
>>97712322>In Modern DayIf modern weaponry is enough to counter low to mid Sequences, tech will probably advance to the point of threatening even highs. This Origin is a doomed pick.
>>97712490Danmarat is mentally ill.
>>97712490The cyoa is fine, there's a ritual poster who has been asking for it to be posted in practically every thread for like a year now, in addition to a few other repetitive bait posts
>>97712534You can’t beat Ottar thobeit
>>97712526>>97712534>>97712538Ok, thanks.Saw in tons of threads people complaining about Danmachi or requesting to post it.
>>97712362We're ALL making it, trust.
thought about that one cyoa with the endless gigaautism war thing and one of the options is that you can pick to be a captain of a big ol' flying ship and then there are items but they never explain if the effects of the items apply to the ship or the captain of the ship. because if it's latter than literally all the items would be basically useless.
>>97712622The captain still has to do things with his own human body, inside or outside of his ship.
>>97712644says who
>>97712619>We're all making it>when numerous anons are gunning for the same position...
>>97712530>not being a techGODlmao'ing @ (you) rn.
>>97712530>If modern weaponry is enough to counter low to mid Sequences, tech will probably advance to the point of threatening even highsOnly really a problem for the combat pathways, nothing major really changes for the others because they were never relying on tanking attacks
Outer Dog
>>97712530Why would I fight the military?
When is Ultimate Fraud coming out already
>>97712671ALL of us.
>>97712702You might not want to fight the military but the military might want to fight you
Ancient Sun Dog
>>97712671We merge anon
>>97712619>>97712671Do not concern yourself with the details. All will be revealed in time.
Dog Almighty, The Omnipotent and Omniscient
>>97712711Why? Until late probably they won't start killing beyonders.
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>>97712728That's gay. God says gayness is ineffective.
>>97712622if you're staying on the ship, the only one that wouldn't be useful is the claw, and that's assuming there is no need to repel boarders
>>97712757
Dog of Knowledge
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>>97712762The cannon can be whatever size. you also could probably put the bangle high on a mast or something. the drums will likely affect the whole crew
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>>97712530>tech will probably advance to the point of threatening even highsIt already can. Primitive steam rifles from steampunk land could kill a demigod. Sequence 2s and some Sequence 3s are the only ones safe (for now)
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>>97712790
True Dog (S0)
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>>97712768Bah
>Yet another anon lost control
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>>97712753Isn't one of the political builds going to push for them to start doing that? Combined with a bunch of people taking bounty partners so early beyonders are going to be getting a bad rep
>>97712845bountycucks dug their own grave
>>97712322
(You) should make Unsealed Artifact build to help some other Anon out. A homemaker type of build.(You) would benefit going Demoness with some support utility choices so that (You)r host Anon could make it.As for form? Perhaps (You) should go with ring.
>>97712752 wtf I thought I was the Doge poster
>>97712810finally, creative OC. let's see some builds guys>Complete>Immunity
>>97712855>trying to turn anons into onahole waifusShameful
>>97712845Why would the political builds push governments to kill beyonders, when they too would end on the line of fire?
>>97712889I think I mixed up wise holy man and the engineer, unless there's another build that wasn't included in the list
>>97712810The other guy already chose complete immunity so I guess I'll pick balanced immunity instead
>>97712898Go back to discord Ruse
Was there any WOG on this? is it truly a discount on every purchase? I get a -3 on every option in my pathway?
>>97712924YeS
>>97712924>option tells anon thing X>Anon: "but is it really X??? author help!"
>>97712924Yes, it only applies once per purchase
>>97712924Per WoG, yes and it was an unintended mechanic that you could buy your potions individually to get maximum benefit from that.
>>97712941 (me)Unintended but legal I should clarify.
>>97712804Wraiths and some Devils don't give a fuck. Shadow Ascetics can hide in shadows.Spirit Warlocks and Spirit Guides may have spirits with useful powers.Warlocks can have all sorts spells, they are only slow by beyonder (I can use multiple teleportations while meteors fall) standards.Witches have invisibility and substitutions.Magicians have illusions and substitutions.Powercopiers can have any of that and more.And everyone theoretically can have useful Sealed Artifacts.Beyonders are far from hopeless against tech.
>>97712949yeah this is all assuming you get the drop on them and shoot them in the back of the headany of the mysticism fags will get premonitions or divine your arrivaltechfags are overwhelmingly dependent on their betters using their items to actually fight
>>97712949>>97712961>wraithsthe only legitimate threat on the list, need magic bullets>devilsjust use drones brodevil malice perception works through the abyss in everyone's hearts. drones have no heart and can be sent from outside malice perception range so it wont proc>shadow asceticsbtfo by flashlights>muh spiritsthey "might" have a spirit with just the right power to save them, they might not>warlocksee above but with spells>witchesbtfo by thermals, infrared and seismic detectors. just use an auto to shred through their substitutions>magicianssee above>powercopiersbtfo like all the othersbeyondercels are done for. you can only slink in the shadows because any upfront confrontation will result in your death
>>97712924Doesn't work>No, Potion Formulas are treated differently for the same reason that they always include the formulas lower on the Pathway, unlike Sealed Artifacts and Partners which do not provide lower options.>Treat each Potion Formula purchase as a single one for the whole Pathway. It can be either done normally (Standard), or with some Knowledge Gap, or with some formulas being incomplete in either case. If you already made one Potion Formula purchase for White Tower, you will not be buying any more for it.
>>97712530That’s not too different from hiding from the churches/government intelligence organizations in the original setting. Basically don’t go crazy with power and attempt to take on the world without allies or a backup plan like a retard and you’ll be fine
>>97713016you're just saying it doesn't work for potion formulas and everything else does get a discount
>>97713042Oh, yes, misread the question because I read too many potion formulas recently.
>>97712949>>97712998Notice how no one said anything about Lucky Ones?
>>97713052their own powers will turn against them at some point lmao
I keep being indecisive about wether I want to take Miracle Invoker and ancient alchemist or Bizzarro Sorcerer and Life Giver.
>>97712728you joke but this is how i resolve problems in super high power cyoas
>>97713052I don't respect this pathway below Winner.And luck is consumable and unreliable.
>>97713071>luck is unreliabl-ACK!!!savantfag after his fancy toy blows up on himrest in piss
>>97712322>OriginIn Modern Day>FateHigh Priestess (Past), The World (Present), The Empress (Future)>BodyMaleEducated, Rough, Well Spoken (29K, 26W, 26I)>StatusDark Trailblazer>SequenceS9 Seer>KnowledgeAll S9 and S8 formulas (Free)S7 Magician, S6 Faceless, S5 Marionettist, S4 Bizzarro Sorcerer, S3 Scholar of Yore (-17)S7 Witch (Free)Acting Method (-5)Mystical Languages (-2)Pathway Lore 1 (-2)Beyonder Creatures (-3)>WealthAffluence x2 (-9)Scent of Love (-8)Forbidden Literature 3 (Black Emperor, -9)>InfluenceMost Secret Organization (-5)Anchors (-4)Political Connections (-3)Demoness Companion from S9 to S4 (Bounty x5, -14)>TalentsGuiding InterestHand of DivinityAdvancement IngenuityPrice of Genius (Acting)>MadnessDesireNot siding with Earth nor Outer Gods, but living in the moment. The ultimate goal of this build is to have a hot incest threesome with MGoD and MToD and come out alive, or at the very least come.
>>97712762>The Crumbling Colossus>-Mobile Fortress>-Mobile Fortress>-Siege Mode>Power>Shrine Fragment>War Council Meetings>The Mother of Monsters>Front Lines>>97712822>The Silent Sphinx>-Stone Hide>-Statue Form>-Master Transformation>Love>Glorious Cannon (Rifle)>Boot Camp>Giants>The Black Queen>>97712822>The Great Stone Gods>-Patience of Uoke>-Just a Pawn>-Power of Hoa>Glory>Nameless Wisdom>Networking>Behemoths>The Obsidian Monolith>>97712822>The Free Man>-Healthy Competition>-Trauma>-Find a Way or Make One>Glory>Sphinx Blood>Into the Fray!>Djinns>The CorruptorAZTEC FORTRESS>>97712898it is the only CYOA I ever had the opportunity to solve first, so I had to unleash my inner powerfag
>>97713134Another build on the shit list, grim
>>97712322What is the weakest pathway?
>>97713173Savant
>>97712914That's actually a trap option, sorry. according to TrueBlueAnon (via Discord) it means your immunity is balanced with your vulnerability, making you about average. I guess if you had any chronic illnesses or autoimmune issues it could be a good pick...
>>97712322What is the strongest pathway?
>>97713197Savant
>>97713182>>97713204>Embodies the Oldest One's strength and weakness
I think people are forgetting that random mad gods will likely tear apart modern day militaries. The S1 characteristics are gonna land and some retards WILL ingest them.
>>97713224Wouldn't anons be S2 or S3 at that point?I'm still not sure what the timescale on all this is
>>97713239> I'm still not sure what the timescale on all this isHow it works is, the instant I spawn in I ascend to GOO status.
>>97713182>>97713204Depends on sequence and what you want to do.
>>97713224S1 is a massive overkill. Modern day militaries can't do shit even against random Evil Spirits.
>>97713173Sleepless seems kinda bad
So... magi case, ultimate god, and conquest never ever?
>>97712322Which Pathways are the strongest in each Sequence? Which are the weakest?
>>97713257They can after I'm done equipping them
>>97713316holy shit learn how to read and form your own opinionss
>>97713316Mine>Others>Yours
>>97713322What pathway is that?
>>97713306i bet you love marvel movies
>>97713322To be honest there's several Pathways I just have no interest in reading because their overarching themes and powersets just don't appeal to me.However I feel like most Pathway Sequences have some redeeming feature or a fan here that would like to argue their merits.>tldr>introduce vector of discussion>get told to stfu
>>97713257>random Evil Spirits.We need to start whipping those death pathway bums and make them do their job
>>97712362About those that have direct conflicts of interests. Based on comparing advantages.>Paragon: Engineer vs The Enlightener>Engineer: wrote a plan>The Enlightener: Tacit Agreement, Uniqueness, much better alliesThe Enlightener 9/10, Engineer 1/10. Engineer didn't spend all his influence points.>Demon of Knowledge: The Wizard vs The Enlightener>The Wizard: better items, no other anon aiming for the same godhood position>The Enlightener: Uniqueness, better knowledge, better alliesThe Enlightener 6/10, The Wizard 4/10>White Tower, God Almighty: The Omniscient vs Wise Holy Man>The Omniscient: Blessed, Tacit Agreement, Uniqueness, Orthodox Integration, Independent Node, better items, better knowledge, much better allies>Wise Holy Man: The Omniscient 10/10, Wise Holy Man 0/10>Abyss: The Baleful>Calamity of Destruction: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693124Depends on whether they can convince fellow candidates that their existence is worth more than the harm they cause.>Eternal Darkness: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481 vs Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481 : Blessed, Tacit Agreement, Orthodox Integration, better items>Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer: Independent Nodehttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481 10/10, Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer 0/10.>Hanged Man, Fool: GOO ServantLikely to lose control and will be hunted by all. Chance for godhood is 0/10.>Lord of Mysteries: Thief of Hearts vs https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666>Thief of Hearts: better items, better knowledge, Independent node>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666 : much much much better allieshttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666 10/10, Thief of Hearts 0/10. Thief of Hearts' goal infringes on the interests of all.
>>97713358>Depends on whether they can convince fellow candidates that their existence is worth more than the harm they cause.It probably is until someone makes a Chained build
>>97713331>readerweakest
>>97713319Good luck equipping the entire world before the endgame, I guess.
>>97713037Plugging this into a custom GPT and fapping to this thanks anon
>>97713374Endgame ain't coming for eons. Barrier isn't collapsing for thousands of years and no one is sure how quickly higher level things start pouring in besides "slowly" and "in the coming years."
>>97713358>The Omniscient>better itemsBut he has NO Sealed Artifacts at all...Blessed fools slandered him because they feared his holiness and wisdom.
>>97713407>"in the coming years."3 to 10 years maybe? It took Klein around 3 years to become S0, and that's with half the way cleared to him thanks to all his allies, sefirot, and CW preparation.Would most builds even be at S3 before the endgame?
>>97713358>The Enlightener 6/10, The Wizard 4/10Fair enough, though I should point out that the Enlightener only has better knowledge because he did the Knowledge Gap thing Tanky said doesn't work.
>>97713316A common opinion is that at S5 Hanged Man is the best.Visionary is probably the best at S1-0at S3 second Law is greatGenerally all the outer god ones have some real BS.
>>97713442Pretty sure it took Fors 11 years(counting after she learnt the acting method) to go from sequence 9 to sequence 2>>97713457Yep, I've been procrastinating on updating the build
>>97713358>>The Enlightener: Uniqueness, better knowledgeWouldn't the Wizard have an edge in divination? He's got fate giving him easy advancement where Enlightener's allies don't. He could even organize an assassination.
>>97713482>Yep, I've been procrastinating on updating the buildDew it.
>>97713490Better Knowledge as in the Knowledge options in the cyoa.
shepards can graze beyonder characteristics to power copy, right?
>>97713512Ye
>>97713512I think it has to be characteristic + beyonder soul.
>>97713512Yes, that's its main use.
I wish to make an assassin build but I would feel bad for stealing the uniqueness from another anon>>97713512They graze souls to power copy
>>97713527>>97713534>>97713530can they graze from sequences higher than theirs?
>>97713541Yes but at risk of losing control
>>97713426I took into account all wealth, not just sealed artifacts.
>>97713541Yes, but it heightens the risk of losing control.Also grazed souls are weaker than they were originally.
>>97713540> I would feel bad for stealing the uniqueness from another anonYou'd never hack it as a Demoness anyway.
>>97713358Oh wise rankings sama, might I humbly request your thoughts on my 4chins build? Please keep in mind that I will be leaning into the luck/fate aspects by throwing out eldritch information, so even those that might not have direct competition from the cyoa builders, there will be plenty of sequence 9 and 8 jobbers out there so long as I stay in the race.
>>97713544>>97713549>>97713540alright, thanks
>>97713490>He could even organize an assassination.wouldnt fate protect him?
>>97713347I bet you love anime slop, disgusting weeb scum.
>>97713568>Nor is it absolutely guaranteed: the plan can still fail. Exceptional circumstances can damage the final picture the further into the future it goes.Coincidences aren't absolutely guaranteed and don't ensure you survive to get them. Assassin anons can still seduce and kill you at low sequence.
>>97713546And you are insane if you think any of his stuff comes even close to the angelic wish-granter (with powers of all the other Medici's teammates from the end of CoI).
>>97713347You say that in a thread full of reddicords. All who are currently obsessed with a cyoa based on a reddit loved webnovel, on the same level as worm. Everyone here cheers and claps for marvel, I bet.
>>97713598>turns random people in its sight, which can include the user, into marionettesWhy the FUCK would you take this artifact.
>>97713560Beneficial action for the world that doesn’t really infringe on anyone’s interests because the level it affects is too low.If no other Wheel of Fortune build appears and no other candidates interfere, you will likely ascend to Key of Light. A big if. Your build is lacking in speed of advancement and capability to obtain the uniqueness and sefira. Your odds are low.
>>97712853wat
>>97713631Just reduce its line of sight, it's THAT simple when you are saint-tier powercopier and wizard.
>>97713631The first 15 seconds the effect is still reversible at the sequence the artifact operates at, also I will cover it every minute.Nta.
>>97713635Thank you for your consideration. I am glad to have your tacit approval.
Can Rampagers be healed?
If I brought a gun to the world of danmachi could I kill level 6s with it
>>97713901Yes. They all lose to tech
Aromage status?
>anons complain that the thread wont stop taking about weebslop>but dont fill the void with anything else when people stop talking about weebslopExplain yourselves
I didn't play this last time I posted it. Perhaps I will now
>>97714011A similar thing happened during Outer Reincarnation/Entropist peaks. I assume that people not interesting the FOTM leave for a while.
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>>97714033>>97714011part timing, part shitposting, part laziness>>97714020yeah, it's only the true freaks who stick around during the reign of a CYOA they dislike...
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>>97714011silence is better than the constant glazing of anime sloppa
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I still remember that time when I baited a lot of anons to roll to attempt advancement ritual for Misfortune Mage. I even gave rather decent chances to survive, but they still died a lot. Absolute kino.
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>>97713962So what CYOAs are the other bounties based on?
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>>97713358>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696666 10/10, Thief of Hearts 0/10. Thief of Hearts' goal infringes on the interests of allLatter individual hereI have no reason to tell them about the goal.The plan is explicitly to remove all information about my former existence so that no one will ever come lookingPeople will still be opposing me, because of all the crimes I will be commiting targeting them, but that will be the means, not the ends, causing everyone to hate me(If and when they figure out who I am)Your verdict might be right, but it won't be the goal that ends me. It will be the intentional antagonism
>>97713641In both you end up inevitably as a doomed jobber and likely cucked.
I'd say, unless it's an obvious case like GOO Servant or The Baleful, we're unlikely to get in conflict between us before the main prizes appear.
>>97714146>implyingplanning to kill you all as we speak. what was will be what will be was
>>97714154Shut up Original Creator.
>>97714154If you plan to kill all beyonders, all of them, you definitely is an obvious case. Otherwise, you won't even know who is who.
>>97714124You can "win" in LOTM. The cyoa gives you all the tools to avoid or bypass most of the problems of the setting, mostly in the Talent section, if you still end up a doomed jobber and/or cucked then it's your fault. Mdern Day and the mystery box also make everything much easier.
>>97712322The Baleful>OriginIn Modern Day>FateThe Past: JusticeThe Present: Wheel Of FortuneThe Future: Devil>BodyMale, Innocent, Lucky, Presentable>StatusDark Trailblazer>PathwayCriminal (Abyss)>WealthBeyonder Characteristic (Abyss S8)Potion Ingredients (Abyss S7-S4) Sealed Artifact: Ritualist's Cookbook (S7 Abyss)Sealed Artifact: Ensouled Carnival (Shepard) (S5 Hanged Man) Sealed Artifact: Trial Package (S9 Moon)Sealed Artifact: Inventor's Log (S7 Savant) Sealed Artifact: Secret Shrine (S9 Hanged Man)Charms and Amulets Hidden Realm >KnowledgeSealed KnowledgePathway Lore x3 Acting Method Beyonder Creatures Mystical Rituals Potion Formula (Abyss S9-S7) >InfluencePartner: Jolie Polley (S7 Abyss) Partner (Bounty): Merle Nois (S5 Abyss) Partner (Bounty): Jessamine S. Ruof (S5 Chained)Partner (Bounty): Selby (S3 Chained) Gathering Initiation Political Connections Anchors Tacit Agreement >CoincidenceUniqueness>TalentsDownstream ProtectionHand Of DivinityEye For WrongnessGuiding Interestmy build assumes the Cookbook works for every potion formula and not just S7->S6, which would make it a 3 wealth cost to avoid a 2 knowledge cost. With the Cookbook I avoid potion formula costs and shore up my path knowledge, which I trade in Gatherings.Since it's the modern era, the big players aren't there yet, and I can get away with a murder hobo path like Abyss at the start. Because I didn't have to take any madness, I have Downstream Protection to shield my mind somewhat. The build hits a stride once I get the Ensouled Carnival, granting grazing powers. I don't know why even put a single soul limit if you're going to allow any sequence 5 With Jessamine and her blasphemy card knowledge, I can switch to Chained at S3, avoiding the Blatherer contract with a purifier, sealing my lingering madness with the lower Puppet power, all while still acting through projections. After that I can either stick with Chained or return to Abyss(1/2)
>>97714201Hidden Realm is there to safeguard my ingredients while I steadily digest the potions, along with any nasty sealed artifacts. Inventor's Log will allow me to experiment with the Hidden Realm's elements to eliminate even more drawbacks.Finally, I have a bunch of Influence options to build up a devoted cult for when the time is right. Thanks to cookbook + blasmephy card knowledge, I have formulas for the Abyss and Chained pathways, so I can help my cult and partners advance, using the former as sacrifices to eventually make a bid for Father of Devils.also why is everyone so eager to kill me first? don't you guys wanna team up?
>>97714211No one likes abyssal shitters. Simple as.
>>97714211You chose the mandatorily evil pathYou can't digest your potions without being evil
Rolled 74, 41, 80 = 195 (3d100)>>97712327Woooah... is that a magic system? Of elements? With gods? Based! There's nothing better than a pantheon of elements. Make way for the Lord of Literature!
>>97713962Procrastinating. Just like that niggertalics and Entropissanon.
>>97714232>>97714245fair enough
>>97714211>also why is everyone so eager to kill me first? don't you guys wanna team up?Anon, the very first effect of your potion is getting rid of your morality, and all the sequences require you to be evil. Where you expecting people to just accept you and invite you for tea? The first ritual needs you to become a literal serial killer.
>>97714211>also why is everyone so eager to kill me first?Abysskeks are fundamentally evil pieces of shit. There are other pathways that are prone to some evil stuff (like Demoness or Lawyer), but Abyss is in a whole nother level. They're completely untrustworthy and will throw you under the bus as soon as it benefits them, and unlike the other pathways that can stop acting once they've digested (or at least minimize their evil), criminals need to kill/cause misery by nature. It's dealing with the local mob boss VS Satan himself.
>>97714232>>97714245>>97714299>>97714309He has downstream protection thoughbeit
>>97714315So he'll never digest any of the potions and die an s9 jobber?You retard.You dumb bitchFuck you
>>97714309You forgot the part where the potion literally takes away your humanity and morality as it's main effect at sequence 9. No other path changes you to that extent.
>>97714211>also why is everyone so eager to kill me first?...dude.
>>97714315Anon, the talent protects you from corruption and possession. The path makes you evil by design, it's not a side effect, it's the purpouse, the Talent can't take away the main point of the path and characteristic. It's like saying that Downstream Protection allows you to remain a guy as a Demoness or high sequence Moon/Mother, it can't stop what is by design.
>>97714317It means he's actually acting instead of becoming
>>97714320>potion literally takes away your humanity and morality as it's main effectThat was included in the "fundamentally evil" part. But yeah, abyssniggers are all kill on sight,their only value is in becoming sealed artifacts that other beyonders who are good at dodging/resisting flaws can use.
>>97714336>Professional child rapist is actually pretty normal at homeHow could that ever improve the situation
>>97714345>their only value is in becoming sealed artifacts that other beyonders who are good at dodging/resisting flaws can use.But to get stronger artifacts we would need to allow them to grow and gather more characteristics.
>>97714336He doesn't have a choice, because the path follows the concept of evil like others follow the concepts of knowledge or beauty.
>>97714315Isn't Abyss getting rid of your morality a power it gives? Not corruption? Does downstream protection allow you to nerf yourself by opting out of problematic powers? Also, he still needs to be evil to act and advance.
>>97714350No, you could let them die of insanity
>>97714350You only need characteristics for that. And the powers in question aren't even very strong.
>>97714211Anons are masking their real worry with moralityslop. The TRUE reason they want you dead is because they FEAR the Abyss. High level criminals are a straight menace to deal with, Blatherer and above are OP as fuck
>>97714350Not necessarily. We can always just brew the potions, and use it to get the characteristic by dripping it on some random object, then shattering it. With the BC in hand, a paragon can make it into an item. I wouldn't be surprised if paragons can just take the potion and use it as a material (so no need to be an angel to do it).
>>97714361>Isn't Abyss getting rid of your morality a power it gives?Yes.>Does downstream protection allow you to nerf yourself by opting out of problematic powers?No. That's the point some of us are trying to make.
>>97714368I didn't even bother to read most of the pathway because I knew I wouldn't pick it
>>97714295Slavery is wrong you know.
>>97714361>>97714315baleful here, I took downstream to avoid becoming dumb like devil s6 says they're prone to losing control and forget themselves in their depravityI took protection to avoid making mistakes, not to stop being depraved altogetherif the talent can't even do that then I'll swap
>>97714368>High level criminals are a straight menace to deal with,No shit sherlock. There's plenty of powerful pathways out there, but they don't need to be killed on sight because they don't brainwash you into being scum of the earth. If they were weak nobody would give a shit.
>>97714387I don't know why you're so worried anon. The others won't have metaknowledge of other anons so it's not like they can stamp you out early. You can go corrupt them while you advance to S0. You could always wait for more god candidates, the barrier isn't falling for a long time.
>>97714368>chooses the path that makes him embody the concept of evil>is surprised that people treat him as an evil menaceit seems pretty clear what the problem is, he clearly needs some power to raise intellect
>>97712327I guess there is no red priest yet, maybe I will post my modern day build.
>>97714387>I took protection to avoid making mistakes, not to stop being depraved altogether>if the talent can't even do that then I'll swapDownstream Protection should protect against that
So which country are you turning into an Abyss? Is it Australia again? Maybe a sealed realm in the Spirit World?
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>>97714385Source?
>>97714421What cyoa is this even for?
>>97714427https://imgchest.com/p/n87wdvnl34x
>>97714425White people
>>97714421Dragon one.
>>97714368This post was FACT CHECKED by a demon of knowledge[TRUE]>>97714396I probably expressed myself badly or joked too much but its less worry about being killed and more worried that I cant share my influence options too much Like I don't expect to get along with any sun people but at least with demoness? The hanged man? The error? Even then its not like we would be having tea parties and singing kumbayah, but sharing info or resources >>97714417Cool
>>97714432
>>97714449I fully support people who give reviews like that, they know the game better than anyone else.
>>97714449Do you know Muslims, nigga?
>>97714438This is https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700991I could sell you some Inextinquishable Ravings characteristics for lower Sequences if you ever want to try to be in more of a grey area and advance. Rituals and supplemental material list sold separately.
>>97714454How does someone get to that point? Logic would dictate someone would stop before having 5 digits of time spent in something they don't enjoy. Unless it's work.
>>97714396>The others won't have metaknowledge of other anons so it's not like they can stamp you out early.Which means GOO cultist can corrupt a lot of shit before anyone realizes something is wrong. Some anons are banking on him dying of insanity but I'm not too sure.We desperately need a Sun or Justiciar.
>>97714477Nobody said they don't enjoy it. They said they don't recommend it to others.
>>97714438>demonessDon't look at me, bro. My advancement works just fine if I become a politician. I don't have to be abnormal, or risk throwing my lot in with public enemy number one.
>>97714438There obviously will be some fuckers willing to deal with you, not necessary of those pathways only. After all, we only act, and even Sun pathway beyonders can be evil and stupid.But while anons here may be pretty stupid sometimes, we aren't THAT stupid.
>>97714295Hot
>>97714449Lmao
>>97714474NeatAnons told me characteristics aren't enough to shepardmaxx but then again I can shepardmaxx a Savant and use them anywayIn return I can offer bounty hunter duties, deciphering of any sealed artifacts you find, plus some advanced chained pathway recipes via a companion >>97714489Doesn't your s4 need 3 times as many deaths as mine
>>97714489>>97714557Both of you need to die.
>>97714449>mixed signalsaccurate representation what white people did and didn't do, because they're the most infiltrated group on the planet, and not just from the big nose groups either.
>>97713358>Eternal Darkness: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481 vs Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481 : Blessed, Tacit Agreement, Orthodox Integration, better items>Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer: Independent Nodehttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481 10/10, Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer 0/10.Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer here. If the other anon really wants RoED he can have it. We don’t necessarily have to be in competition. He’ll need the uniqueness of the Death pathway but I would be able to occupy Sequence 1 without issue. My goal is primarily making the Underworld into my ideal afterlife. I’d prefer to be Death to set up a cycle of reincarnation as well, but I’m not willing to have a high level clash over it unless he’s gonna be a psycho that wants to merge with CoD.I specifically avoided Blessed because I felt like the obligations to the Sefirah might impinge on my free will and enjoyment, so I opted for more partners that would grow with me instead. A price is always exacted for what fate bestows and all that
>>97712322>Beauty Goddess>The embodiment of the symbol and concept of Beauty. Inevitably, "They" are always a Female being representing the Yin Energy.>Advancing to a Beauty Goddess results in becoming a female regardless of the original gender, possessing strong Reproduction desires and Divine tendencies.gonna need a moon build to impregnate stat
>>97714557Technically, no. Mine requires exposing a large number of people to a bio-agent, but doesn't strictly require anyone to die. If I do it to an enemy country, then it's also patriotic.
>>97714616>not forcing a S3 Red Priest to shift to Demoness S2, and then to Moon S1
>>97714628Don't push your transsexual fetish on anon
>>97714628Forcing your slave to become god is a lot less coherent of a fantasy then making a god your slaveIt is a bit patrician, but nonsensical
Paragonbros, we're so lucky they're willing to overlook the supplementary ingredient for our Illuminator potion
>>97714621Ye but the less people who die the more the ritual gets botched
>>97714653You can probably compensate for that with more despair and suffering
>>97714642There is an Underworld to start with so they just have to trade with a high end Death pathway. Why not sacrifice all the souls of the evil Mamluk kaliphate.
>>97714634A guy biologically transforming into a girl is completely different from an insane dude cutting off his penis.
>>97714642If you predigest enough you could get away with lacking one supplementary ingredient
>>97714449White people. Gave the world everything but also get blamed for everything.
>>97714653Look, any casualties as a result of this sudden disease outbreak are an unfortunate tragedy and actually the result of their incompetent government being unable to distribute proper medical aid. Trying to assign blame isn't going to help anyone; the real next step is to get a handle on their medical situation before it spreads across the continent and accelerates into an international disaster.
>>97714674Actually, I plan on humiliating my Red Priest Rival, destroy his home country in a calamity that also fulfils the conditions of the Demoness S2 ritual and force him to imbibe the ingredients, forcibly making him metaphorically my bitch. Moon S1 is for when I mind break his initially reluctant mind.
>>97714628Why specifically Red Priest S3? What does it give? Also Demoness isn't close to Moon so it would be pretty much assisted suicide right? Are switches between non adjacent paths survivable without the right talents?>>97714674Left is Ranma, right is Naruto in Sexy no jutsu mode, who's the middle?
>>97714693It's from onii-chan wa oshimai!An anime about a dude transformed into a girl by his sister.>>97714690Yes, and because he would be a girl, it is not gay.
>>97714674I don't know who the guy in the middle is but Ranma is only female about half the time, and I'm pretty sure the Sexy no Jutsu is just an illusion, it's not even a shadow clone with mass, just a hologram essentially, so it's not the best example.
>>97714693>Are switches between non adjacent paths survivable without the right talents?Roselle switched from Paragon>Hermit>Black Emperor, and I vaguely remember reading about someone else doing something similar.It's suicide most of the time, but it's still possible, provided you prepare a way to deal with the madness
>>97714706Yeah, but 2 out of 3 represent true biological transformation.And Ranma could permanently live as a girl if she wanted.
>>97714693Demoness into Brood Hive pathways is a secret route. Lillith in the 5th Epoch actually took that route. White Tower and DoK pathways are also a secret route.
>>97714715Knowledge pathways and their student can't resist the taste of brood hive, huh?
>>97714706No, the transformation technique is a real transformation, not a hologram.
>>97714725White Tower is adjacent to DoK pathways, not both compatible with Brood Hive. Though the Hidden Sage kind of points to some compatibility between DoK and Brood Hive once you GOO up.
>>97714739>The path of knowledge end sin being a perpetually knocked up bimbo
Gil…. bweh….
>>97714715I asked about hidden switches some time ago, where were you then? This actually changes a lot for my potential build now, it goes from impossible to just barely viable. Are there any others?
>>97714713>And Ranma could permanently live as a girl if she wanted.Isn't the transformation tied to water? Something like hot and cold? It seems like one of those possible in theory things that become a lot harder to do in practice.>>97714735Excuse me what the fuck? How? Why? So Naruto can actually turn into a girl for a while?
>Fools have to turn an entire village into marionette and puppet their lives>Error>Visionaries have to author rape a bunch of people, potion component of one's own depraved nature>Hanged Men need to degenerate 10000 people>Tyrants need to create a natural disaster upon 1000000 people>White Tower potion consumes the souls of 10000 people>Red Priest wars would kill a gorillion people in modern day>Demoness plagues another 10000>Darkness has to bring angel tier misfortune to the equivalent of an entire continent >Death >Twilight Giants have to commit mass murder by negligence >Wheel of Fortune potion consumes someone else's luck>Paragon potion consumes 100000 souls>Black Emperor has to doom at least 10000000 >Abyss>Mother potion requires 10000 soulsThusOur HEROES:DoorSunHermitJusticiarMoon
>>97714477Sometimes they did enjoy the game, but the game changed in some negative way. I know some reviewers who switched their upvote to a downvote when a kernel-level DRM was added to a game on Steam. You may also get people who get salty when their favorite builds are nerfed or their favorite playstyles are infringed upon.For multiplayer games, specifically, like an MMoRPG, you get people who sometimes switch to a downvote if there's a lack of updates, if they downgrade the servers and everything starts lagging, or if they release a bad expansion to the game.
>>97714771Oh, and Chained
>>97714768Ranma's curse is a curse. Being exposed to hot water will turn him back into a guy, and cold water turns him into a girl, but the harder he avoids the curse state, the more magnetically cold water is drawn to him. It's also possible to lock the curse so you can't turn back through various methods. And yes, Naruto can physically turn into a girl if he wants to; he turns Gamabunta into Kurama at one point in order to give him claws and fangs.
>>97714758Hanged Man and Abyss is the other hidden switch. Its about the symbolism basically. Feminimity, Knowledge, and Degeneration.ED and CoD are also technically adjacent but either a dead end or the end of everything depending on how you do it.Its all on the wiki with a chart further on down. https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Pathways
>>97714771Some of these are very exagerated or taken out of context. Like White Tower, they need to die of old age so it's out of your hands at that point.
>>97714800You're still consuming 10000 souls into yourself instead of letting them rest or reincarnate or do whatever they do in lotm
>>97714771Bear in mind that the endgame is the actual end of the world, so getting as many earth-native gods as possible is actually super important.
How do evil spirits have power? They are apparently demigod level with no characteristics.
>>97714830The entire setting is a lie, OC is a fraud, you can cast regular magic if you try hard enough
>>97714830You dont actually need a beyonder characteristic to have magic powers
>>97714830Spirit World shenanigans.
>>97714830>demigod level evil spiritParagonbros, this looks like a job for us
>>97714848Don't ordinary people lack the spirituality to do anything with it?
>>97714901Why would you tell the guys who kill and eat anyone magical that you had magical powers?That dungheap of a world is only inhabited by those who can't get out
>>97714892Also Moonbros (potions and mystic chemistry)And Twilight Giantbros (mystic chemistry under another name)And Hermitbros (spell creation and casting)And White Towerbros (also spell creation and casting)Probably others that I'm not remembering
>>97712322I'm kind of a brainlet, so I pick In modern day origin and dark trailblazer, I don't need to spend coincidence points on any of the sequences under personal history to chart future advancement?
>>97714793I see. This is all very interesting, the knowledge path helps a lot with what I wanted to do. Reading the wiki I am seeing that tank took the liberty of making switches worse, high sequence and neighboring is considered essentially free on the wiki but tank made it give you madness. Reading the rules again I also saw that another option that I ignored is actually more viable. Starting at Marauder and immediately switching to fool after gives you the potential to steal everything without the rest of Error progression, at the low cost of no divination progression. Which could be a problem but not a big one maybe?
>>97714921I think you can anyway, but your points are probably better spent elsewhere.
>>97714921You are forced to ignore Personal History section.
>>97714944Okay that makes sense. Thanks anon.
>>97714789>Ranma's curse is a curse.Yeah, he can just take cold showers and never turn into a guy again; that's what I meant.
>>97714928no high mid error characteristics = no enhancements to steal power
>>97714768>Isn't the transformation tied to water? Something like hot and cold? It seems like one of those possible in theory things that become a lot harder to do in practice.It's very easy actually.Cold water turns him into a girl, and hot water turns him into a guy.It's way easier for him to stay a girl than a guy.
>>97714944Doesn't the Reasonable Development option bypass that? It tells you to look at the prices, but tank said you don't get events so it wouldn't be relative to that world. And the option itself is not in personal hystory but in another section.
>>97714961Someone said that the upgrades are tied to the base power not the higher sequences, so having the base power to steal that S9 gives would be enough because the rest is all upgrades.
>>97714965I don't think so. But I'm not the author.
>OC never reawakened so his consciousness imprint was never strengthened Do we even need the potion system in modern day anymore? Seq 9s and 8s could could directly consume their characteristics without any big problems in COI since OC had been dead and weakening for thousands of years
>>97714758It's also said that MGOD can accommodate the ED Pathways because of her symbolism and connection with death (it completes it,) but reality itself (not her) would go insane if she took them all, so it would only be safe if she accommodated one of them. No idea if that would apply to you as a GOO, but the death symbolism is already present in Moon and is pronounced in the Brood Hive Sefirah so you can argue Death/Darkness/Twilight Giant are also secretly adjacent to a high-level Moon and/or the Goddess of Origin.
>>97712322Runaway Knowledge is such a cool concept, the only issue is that it's hard to not get locked into being a pure knowledge build. I will try something different with it but it still feels suboptimal.
Why the fuck did it get so many upvotes?Meanwhile authors that slave for months on high quality CYOAs sometimes don't even get 300 upvotes.
>>97715175It's the witch. Men love evil manipulative witches that dote (manipulate) them
>>97715175>R*dditThey're dumb niggers, what do you expect?
>>97712322Remind me again, is Entropist getting an update any time soon or at all? Because I was thinking of making another build again and I don't want to get blindsided by new stuff.
>>97715211>redditropistit's been banished to reddit, go ask there
>>97712322The Vicar Maiden[75 COIN/00 CHAINED/00 MOON]Origins: In Modern Day (Dark Trailblazer Status Only) [79 COIN/03 CHAINED/00 MOON]Past: Hierophant (+4 KNWL)/Present: The Empress/Future: Temperance (+3 Chained)Body: Male into Female (Present: The Empress)[85 COIN/03 CHAINED/00 MOON]Traits: Lucky/Faithful/Innocent[85 COIN/03 CHAINED/00 MOON]Status: Dark Trailblazer [85 COIN/05 CHAINED/01 MOON]Secret Organization: Rose School of Thought - loyal to the original ideals of temperance (+2 Chained/+1 Moon)Pathway: S9 Chained: Prisoner[57 COIN/05 CHAINED/01 MOON]Wealth:Affluencex3 (-21 COIN) Sealed artifacts: Standard - Escape (free)/Cursed Leather (free)/Wolf Hex Coat (free)/Crown of Blood (free)/Ghost Talisman (free)/Paper Seal (free)Potion Ingredientsx2 S4/S3 (Free)Hidden Realm (-7 COIN)[15 COIN/05 CHAINED/01 MOON]Knowledge: Potion Formula: Standard - S3 (Free)Pathway Lorex3 (-14 COIN)Beyonder Creatures (-3 COIN)Acting Method (-5 COIN)Mystical Languagesx3 (-6 COIN)Mystical Rituals (-2 COIN)Epoch Historyx4 (-12 COIN)[02 COIN/05 CHAINED/01 MOON]Influence: Partner: Bounty - Selby (Free)Partner: Standard - Sullivan Nichols (Free)Partner: Standard - Beast in the Basement (Free)Gathering Invitation (-2 COIN)Spirit Messenger (-2 COIN)Blessed - Chained God (-4 COIN)Most Secret Organization (-5 COIN)[00 COIN/05 CHAINED/01 MOON]]Coincidences: True God's Seal (-2 COIN)Gameplan on next post.
>>97715219My early gameplan is to speedrun to werewolf and then wraith, either forcing advancement through the Wolf Hex Coat and then through Ghost Talisman, if that doesn't work then I have taken pretty much all of the knowledge options and resources that should accelerate trhough the early sequence advancements (Wraith ritual is super easy to accomplish via spirit messenger). Mid gameplan is curry favor from the Chained God, by reaching out and consolidating the original Rose school of throught temperance loyalists and gradually and systematically try to weed out the Mother Tree of Desire and Mother Goddess of Depravity elements in return for divine assistance for further sequence advancement and hopefully build a stronger relationship with Selby righting the wrongs of the organisation to steer it in the right direction. I'll stash all of my sealed artifacts in my hidden realm and use my immense wealth to build influence and connections.And by the time I am S3-S2, I should be positioned as the new Saint of the newly reformed Rose School of thought that I am one of the top cannidates to acheive S1-S0, in case the Chained God "steps down".
I wanna make a companion DLC for Icescape. Is Night Rider okay with this?
>>97715163I like it with the Inextinquishable Ravings powers.
>>97715219>Dark Trailblazer>Secret OrganizationAnon...
Rake status?
>>97712322What does the Sequence 9-7 Skip mean? Is 9 to 7 or pick either 9,8,7 as the Sequence you start with?
>>97715175Normal, non-autistic people don't like to read 30 pages of cyoa and hunt through it to keep track of 4 different kinds of points, anon.The first cyoas were pills and waifus, because those were the broad appeal ones.
>>97715211EntropoistAnon never came back since the Entropist roll gacha. The guy that came later with the Exalted Conquest concept was an imposter demiurge feasting on false hope.
>>97715243>Normal, non-autistic people don't like to read 30 pages of cyoa and hunt through it to keep track of 4 different kinds of pointsSo you're saying interactive CYOAs are the future?
>>97715233Okay I'll fix that sometime tomorrow I'm going to bed. I completedly missed that restrictions regarding Dark Trailblazer, as I got tunnel visioned while drafting the build. I'll take out secret org, and adjust the beneficiary discounts, I don't think it changes the main gameplan.
>>97712322best pathway for your waifu?
>>97715247>So you're saying interactive CYOAs are the future?Depends on who you're trying to appeal to.All kinds of movies, games and tabletop rpgs get made to appeal to different tastes. It really just depends on who you wanna appeal to.
>>97715249Red Priest.
>>97715249Moon so she can remain barefoot and pregnant 24/7
>>97712322I don't get it. Why don't the GOOs just take their stuff back and leave? If they took all the weird shit from earth and didn't hurt us we would have no reason to fight them. They should be negotiating, not trying to take everything by force
>>97715175What's the red text for the Warrior King? I can't read it.
>>97715249Which path creates the most demure and nubile malewives?Apothecary?
>>97715263They consider you less than an insect and not worth negotiating with. You don't talk to ants, do you? The only beings they'd consider talking to are Pillars, other GOOs, Sefirah, and potentially True Gods, but most of them want to keep their power and independence. Ultimately though it is Klein helping MGOD find a loophole in her deal with GA that got her to fuck-off temporarily, because she got most of what she wanted and things were being annoying for her. So you can classify that as 'negotiating', and he was Lord of Mysteries at the time so that was a Pillar-to-Pillar talk.
>>97715265I'll post the actual CYOA so you can read it better
>>97714018It's good. I enjoyed it. Looking at the build I made thought it doesn't really appeal to me. I'll have to make a new one some time.Once I'm done with LotM, anyway. .
I kinda dislike that I'm going to need to merc Lilith to get the Mother Uniqueness but it's not like she's some pure innocent flower herself, larping as the mommy goddess of fidelity and families or not. The path to GoO GOO is truly fraught with betrayals it seems.
>>97715297Thank you. Also, picking a childhood friend. Hands down.
>>97715175How do you manage to care?Why did you check?Why do you use reddit?It's ok to be a retard sometimes, but I'd really like if you got better. And weren't a reddit user
>>97715307She was a S2 Demoness prior.
>>97715355Cry about it
>>97715392No.......
>>97715310Based
>>97715375Oh I know, and she also backstabs big boy to help Evernight (another one who has done some nasty shit in the past but is relatively benign these days) in exchange for the Moon uniqueness she can't even use properly (which I will be personally nabbing instead, of course.) But outside of that she's been generally acting as a positive influence on the world since switching to Mother pathway, so if she wasn't personally standing in my way to GoO I'd spare her. Sad for her, she is.
>>97715355Because I'm a hikikomori NEET desprate for content, I don't have the luxury of turning my nose up to CYOAs just because they're from reddit.
>>97715402>relatively benignThat's one way to put it.
>>97715453Feynapotter's a fairly nice place.
>>97715453>>97715467Thought you meant Lilith. Evernight's a scheming bitch but they all are, she's less of a cunt than pretty much any other god even so, if you have to pick one of them not to fuck over other than the protagonists she's top of that list. Unless, of course, you want one/all of her Pathways, then feel free to give her a taste of her own medicine like I'm doing with Lilith, don't feel guilty.
>>97714489Why don't you simply swap to red priest at high tiers? You need to swap around the two anyway if you want to become a calamity of destruction.>>97714715>>97714758compatible pathways are more dangerous than adjacent pathways still.
>>97715144>so it would only be safe if she accommodated one of themShe's a pillar, if she recompletes her seforot she shouldn't accomodate new uniquenesses, else the convergence instinct will grow again.
>>97715144You mean MToD.
>>97713598You won’t obtain Nightly Anything early because mysticism tickles in, not that you would even be able afford the spirituality to manifest Antinogus early on. Additionally, you bought only one item for advancement.The Omniscient bought many items for advancement and the synergistic forbidden literature and hidden realm.Your reliance comes late while his comes early. Your progress is full of detours while his is straight.
>>97715211No, he had no intention to update it and was working on another CYOA.
>>97715248Anon, In Modern Day means you are here, in this world, your gameplan is based on being in Lord Of Misteries.You have no Rose School of thought or Chained god
>>97715249As I'm aiming to Lord of Misteries I would say God Almighty for the joke, but God Almighty is always Male, so I will be more serious and say Moon.Demon of Knowledge is what I would like as apowerset for her tho.
>enter thread>it's still chinkslop centralsee you next week ig
>>97715263>don't get it. Why don't the GOOs just take their stuff back and leave? If they took all the weird shit from earth and didn't hurt us we would have no reason to fight them. They should be negotiating, not trying to take everything by forceA partial answer is that "their stuff" is now firmly integrated into the universe. Removing it would be the cosmic equivalent of major surgery, and there's no guarantee that the universe would survive the process. We're talking the supernatural equivalent of removing gravity or electromagnetism - at best things would be radically different afterwards. At worst, everything just falls apart into the void.Another partial answer is that some of them want more than their original stuff. They're looking to grab additional Pathways to boost themselves even higher. Basically, the cosmic equivalent of bandit lords or pirate kings.
>>97715620So they're all covert powerfags?
>>97715621Covert? It's not even a secret that they will kill and devour each other as soon as one of them is caught lacking, something that is only avoided when someone can enforce cooperation via contracts. They will go for the sefirot and don't give a fuck about the colateral damage.
>>97715574>God Almighty is always MaleGA has the Father of All symbolism which is harder for women to acquire i believe, but it doesn't really force a gender change.
>>97713962Cucked by tankista for a 2nd time.
I'm gonna take the Paragon Uniqueness and ritually donate it to Primordial Hunger and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me.
>>97715175Witch, I fight for the witch.
>>97715653Why would we care about what you do in your fantasy?
>>97715646>GA has the Father of All symbolism which is harder for womenYes, was talking about that, realistically speaking there won't be a female GA.
>>97713962Do we know how strong would a starting son in this system?
>>97715297Witch. Literally no downsides.
>>97715672Stop thinking about Entropiss.
>>97712622after reading it through I do think actually that the items effect your ship and crew as well, like in the arena they specify that you get to fight with it and not on your own. also note that it never mentions the captain of the original, only the ship. so I think the case here is that you as the captain is just an extension of the ship itself. like you are equally the ship and the captain of it at the same time
>>97715672It's mostly a sidegrade to the nascent demon lord, so near that.
>>97715182brvtal trvthnvke for nice girls
>>97715676>Literally no downsides>Looks inside>Many downsidesu blind nigga?
>>97715846If you're sufficiently mentally ill, any downsides would look like upsides
>>97715850I guess so. Its just so disappointing to see anons lose to pussy so easily.
>>97715846>is nice to you>makes you immortal>evil (this makes her hotter)Literally no downsides.
>>97712327So how mystically powerful can one become without becoming a Beyonder?Or does all magic rely on being a Beyonder? With mystics essentially just knowing the theory without being able to accomplish the practical?
>>97715846You wouldn't get it.
>>97715904>So how mystically powerful can one become without becoming a Beyonder?Demigod level, if you count becoming a mystical creatureWhite Tower beyonders can also teach their spells to normal people, but they probably won't have the spirituality to do anything with themMystical knowledge is still just knowledge, so it's theoretically possible for normal people to learn and take advantage of it, they just won't have beyonder hax and very little spiritualityThe biggest is the lack of spirituality. I don't remember if there were ways to increase it without turning into a mystical creature
>>97715929Oh, they can also rely on Sealed Artifacts ig but good luck with that unless you're relying on a Beyonder to find them, give them to you, and tell you how to use them
>>97715929>Demigod level, if you count becoming a mystical creatureMystical creatures are beyonders though, they still have characteristics, even if mixed.
>>97714800They wander the spirit realm until they dissolve into it.You need MGoD and the eternal Darkness to have the cycle of reincarnation.>>97715904almost sequence 0 by being dao integrators. Quasi GOO if they're willing to die.
>>97715962I'm counting things like becoming an evil spirit or being turned into a blood servant by a
>>97715969>by aMoon pathway beyonder
>>97715904The peak of spirit world creatures without characteristics and boons is king of angels.
>>97715963For reincarnation you technically only need the Sequence 0 for the Death and Planter pathways per the written text, no need to involve MGoD
Gil status?
>>97715569So we can't take partners either?
>>97716091For partners you'd meet the people who merged with said beyonders, either asap (i.e, you bought a s3 partner and meet them while they're s9) or when the world progresses to the point they can reach their sequence.
>>97715249Warrior
anyone remember that sda guy
>>97716159He cute.
>>97712322Remaind my build:The Vicar Maiden[75 COIN/00 CHAINED]Origins: In Modern Day (Dark Trailblazer Status Only) [79 COIN/03 CHAINED]Past: Hierophant (+4 KNWL)/Present: The Empress/Future: Temperance (+3 Chained)Body: Male into Female (Present: The Empress)[85 COIN/03 CHAINED]Traits: Lucky/Faithful/Innocent[85 COIN/03 CHAINED]Status: Dark Trailblazer Pathway: S9 Chained: Prisoner[53 COIN/03 CHAINED]Wealth:Affluencex3 (-21 COIN) Sealed artifacts: Standard - Escape (free)/Cursed Leather (free)/Wolf Hex Coat (free)/Crown of Blood (free)/Ghost Talisman (free)/Paper Seal (-1 COIN)Forbidden Literature (-3 COIN)Hidden Realm (-7 COIN)[11 COIN/03 CHAINED]Knowledge: Potion Formula: Standard - S3 (-3 COIN)Pathway Lorex3 (-14 COIN)Beyonder Creatures (-3 COIN)Acting Method (-5 COIN)Mystical Languagesx3 (-6 COIN)Mystical Rituals (-2 COIN)Epoch Historyx3 (-9 COIN)[00 COIN/03 CHAINED]Influence: Partner: Bounty - Selby (-2 COIN)Partner: Standard - Sullivan Nichols (Free)Partner: Standard - Beast in the Basement (Free)Spirit Messenger (-2 COIN)Political Connections: Super PAC benefactor (-3 COIN)Anchors: Vtubing/E-Celeb influencer (-4 COIN)
>>97716209My early gameplan is to turn into werewolf and then into wraith, and then forcing advancement through the Wolf Hex Coat and then through Ghost Talisman, if that doesn't work then I have taken pretty much all of the knowledge options that should give me a good idea of how to accelerate the early sequence advancements. The only one I might be stuck at is Lunatic and Zombie, I would need to depend on the forbidden literature notebook to learn the ritual and magic to summon a shapeshifter or zombie, to mitigate the madness from reading it, I have cursed leather to keep me rational and Selby to suppress the madness effect.S4 Puppet is the next big hurdle, I have all the puppet components I need from Selby, its setting up the rituals to preparing the mummy which will take a year.S3 I would need to confiscate Selby's throat for advancement and as for ritual I'll just e-celeb vtube my way to 1000 followers.As for S2 and beyond, the requirements seem alright, I just don't know enough of the source material to know how to pull it off, but I wonder if for S1 I can use the corpse of Jesus Christ and for S0 the original cross and nails as substitutes.I'll stash all of my sealed artifacts in my hidden realm and use my immense wealth to build influence and connections.>>97715569>>97715233I hope the build and gameplan is okay now, again I have never read the source material until this cyoa.
>>97716209your talents?
>>97715175i mean, the artist being as popular as they are probably helps, 432k+ followers on twitter alone kinda helps
>>97716209Your points aren't turned into coincidence points. They're treated as coincidences, as in stuff you're fated to obtain later.
>>97716214Dou you want to kill selby while you are two sequences below her and possess her body? Buttons would probably be better for that
>>97716209Remember about talents, you are trying the risky way to use wolf hex coat to quickly ascend, so downstream protection would be really important.>I have never read the source materialMe neither, I'm just autistic enough that after days of wikidiving and reading relevant chapters I can intervene in certain discussions about it.
>>97712322>>97712327>dark trailblazer>ignore like half the cyoahmm
>>97716560You have a problem Simplified Mode?
>>97716560Well you probably don't want your mutliplayer to be filled with insane sequence 1 GOO puppets
>>97716576Would you pick anything else than the age of gods in Elspeth's cyoa?
>>97716628nta but i'd only pick those if they had way more fleshed out settings, as it is you're going to something extremely vague either way so you may as well be strong
>>97716578>insane sequence 1 GOO puppetsGod of Combat victims
>supplementary ingredients>mastery of geographic, astronomical and folkloristic knowledge of at least three galactic systemsWell, I'm gonna need to change my build, uniqueness to help me is pretty necessary.Also have to change my companion, the broker already got her.
>>97716651>have to change my companion, the broker already got her.lol lmao
>>97716578I still don't see why anons are treating this as a multiplayer. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but the term is never used in the CYOA from what I see.
>>97716651what the fuck is a galactic system
>>97716670>>97716662Speedreader-kun...
>>97716651just cuck the brokerwait, don't tell me you're part of a rizzless pathway?oh nonononononohahahaha
>>97716676well? what is it?
>>97716231>>97716420I'll figure it out later after I finish my wagie shift.I wish I had time to autistically read through the wiki anon. The wagie cagie calls.>>97716254Does it affect my point balance? If not why should I care?>>97716276Selby is way more useful then Buttons, in order to take Buttons I have adjust my point costs in other areas, for example how important is mysitcal Rituals can I safely opt out of that to take Buttons and not impact the speed or safety of sequence advancement?
An unholy mixture of danmachi and tankslop destroyed this general
>>97716706Metamagic
>>97716704>Does it affect my point balance? If not why should I care?Just making sure you didn't spend everything as coincidence points since you labelled them like that
>>97716706>tankslopSorry you can't appreciate kino
>>97716704My problem is that the ritual requires you to possess the mummified corpse of the puppet, so Selby and Buttons are probably identical, in case you don't want to kill a partner I think creatures with those characteristics will appear
>>97716660>>97716677Wait a moment, realized I took her first.Well, probably leave her to him anyway, honestly he's more desperate than me.>>97716670I think he's referring to system of galaxies.I put it on translate and it returned river systems.
>>97716710Metacyoa
>>97715547Nope, MGOD. She can accommodate River of Eternal Darkness as long as she's not complete. Though yes >>97715536 is correct that if she is complete it'd be too much and she'd start being erratic and trying to absorb everything like CW and GA did.
>>97716720Must be qualityslop
Remember when that gil guy threw a big tantrum because people meta’d his cyoa
>>97716783no, unless you mean tok, in which case lol
>>97716783It explicitly said ‘No Meta’ in the fine print.
>>97715560Do you seriously think something on the level of remnants of a divine kingdom will appear earlier than a s3 artifact? And Readers are stuck at s4 without angel-tier characteristics anyway, at least Readers without Advancement Ingenuity.I bought the most critical one, after that I can rely on the actual powers to obtain neccessary things (and Cosmic Scrapbook can let me to analyze all s7- powers of the outer pathways, including Broker). It's not wise to rely on inherently chaotic fate too much.If you care about the early game so much, you must remember that he spams Bounty like there is no tomorrow and relies on convergence. And Detective is a sequence of this pathway. My progress will be smooth sailing compared to what he did to himself and his associates.
>>97716795doesn't work, when you play a meta cyoa you're playing by the meta cyoa's rules first and all others secondthis is why playing a meta cyoa isn't cheating btw, you are doing exactly what the rules say
>>97716840but by acknowledging meta cyoa, the cyoa itself becomes a meta cyoa and therefore takes precedence...
>>97716783>>97716789>>97716795>>97716840>>97716854*baby noises*
>>97716854>prevents itself from being playedIs that the power of authors of old?
>>97716874I asked my cyoa author friend about that, and he responded "we cant do that now, we dont have the technology"
>>97716882But we have the SCIENCE™
>>97716882>>97716888Humans will never have the scientific capacity to create the necessary technology to make cyoas real sorry
>>97716854no it doesn't, when you're playing a meta cyoa all other cyoas just become inert fuelalso someone change >>97716871's diaper
>>97716888You mean the magic.
>>97716903No, those are two fundamentally different things.
>>97716901A meta-meta cyoa overwrites, sorryI dont make the rules, I just selectively enforce them
>>97716912Nah. :^)
>>97716901>normal CYOAs are fuel for meta CYOAs>CYOAs are fuel for your Imagination>Imagination if fuel for ???
>>97716913it doesn't matter how many metas you append, the only thing that matters is which rules you start with
>>97716921Procrasturbation.
I can smell curry here.
>>97716925No, it works on layer logic. The utmost meta takes effect
>>97716947sure, but the one you start with is the utmost
>>97716940You don’t like cumin?
>>97716953no, that's why i give all of it to your mom
>>97716951No thats the innermost since its the original layer, subsequent additions go on top of that, with the last one added being the outermostSo the actual order in terms of layers is (paradoxically) meta cyoa(original) > other meta cyoa > original cyoa.
>>97716965that's not paradoxical, that's just as i said, the original you use is the one who's rules you follow
>>97716965That doesn't make sense.The whole point of metas is to overwrite the original cyoa - the raison d'être can't be accomplished if the latter is the sovereign.
>>97716982actually, as the author of the first meta cyoa, the whole point was to use old one pagers in a thread game where some semi-controllable combination happens to anon
>>97716981the original you use is the one whos rules you modify
>>97717017no, the original is the only one whose rules you don't modify
>>97717009>as the author of the first meta cyoa>doesn't know how metas work
I am god and cyoa's bow and cower before meI need no meta cyoa. I make demands and the fiction is forced to obey
>>97717024ImaginationDEITY...I kneel.
The only thing that matters about meta cyoas is your willingness to ignore or bend the rules. You don't need them for that, you are free.But there is still no escape.
>>97717022sorry but you're wrong, it doesn't matter if you put a "no meta cyoa" rule into your cyoa, it's still a valid victim for meta cyoas :)
>>97717020No, remember, layers. The last cyoa applied takes precedence, then the cyoa before that, then the cyoa before that, and so on
I always found meta cyoas weird your using a ruleset made by another guy to cheat in the system created by the first guy. If your cheating at least be creative and create the method to break the rules yourself. Do they think just because it's a meta cyoa their cheating is somehow more legitimate?
>>97717057I think it makes more sense If you start with the meta cyoa and use another cyoa as a backdrop for it
>>97717045your way wouldn't make sense because you'd just play a regular cyoa normally while being forced to ignore the meta cyoa, since the meta cyoa is illegal by the rules of the regular cyoaso you're wrong, layers begin with the cyoa you start with, all other rules from other cyoas are subservient
>>97717057I think it's mostly people who wants to play with an alternative ruleset while still being in the setting, or that are more interested by the ramifications of X existed in Y world than 'balance'.Then again it's what I saw on QuestionableQuesting - perhaps you guys have a different logic.
>>97717057it's not cheating, you're playing exactly by the rules of the meta cyoa, and you're not playing the other cyoa at all, you're only using it to fuel the meta
No fate, no king, no god!>>97717122>>97717122>>97717122
>>97717083I guesse it's my inherent distain for weird multiversal stuff your trying to glue together different settings whose rules and power scaling don't really mesh well.
>>97717073>so you're wrong, layers begin with the cyoa you start withYes, thats the first layer, but layers are FILO and not FIFO
>>97717135>multiversal stuff It's more like buffs, and players balance themselves around the setting cyoa, but I see what you mean. Picturing a 'Urban Unease' build where Anon is a Übermensch with self-duplicating waifus would ruin the mood.I wonder how many metas have their own cosmologies.
>>97717140they're neither, the first layer is a function that transforms the next
