Is D&D even salvageable at this point?
What is stopping you from either playing the version of your choice, or changing some rules to suit yourself?I honestly don't see what you're complaining about, it's your game, stop acting like someone is forcing you to follow the rules like a robot.
>>97715801dnd was never meant to be a realistic combat simulator. Gygax said so.
Bad DMs have you roll to do things. Make a roll, see if you roll high enough to succeed? Smoothbrained as fuck.Good DMs have you describe your method. If you use the right method, you succeed. If you don't use the right method, you fail. Simple as that. Examples of good DMing:>DM: A gambit fights you. He wears only gambeson.>Player: I bring up my pollaxe in Vom Tag and throw a Zornhau, towards his shoulder.>DM: You bisect him from the shoulder to the opposite hip. He screams. His organs spill to the earth. His body expels piss and shit.>DM: A man-at-arms fights you. He wears full harness.>Player: I bring up my pollaxe in Vom Tag and throw a Zornhau with the hammer side, towards his helm. Once he is stunned, I wrestle him to the ground, then bring out my misericorde and jam it into his visor.>DM: You pierce his eye and brainpan. He screams and goes limp. His body expels piss and shit.
>>97715801Lack of realism in combat is hardly the biggest problem with DnD, or really a problem at all.
>>97715801Who cares? It's 2020+6, play better games. You don't have to keep playing D&Dogshit.
>>97715810the enemy isnt going to let you walk up to him with a big old hammer and let you ring his bellhe will actively defend against itit goes without saying that a more skilled warrior can overcome the targets defense more easily, but the stars can align and allow a newbie to land a solid hit entirely by flukethis is what dice are meant to represent, an abstraction for how likely you are to to succeed> Smoothbrained as fuck.a good DM has their players rolling their dice as often as possible
>no weapon whatsoever, ever in the entirety of human history, was ever held in the off-hand with the intension to strike>even if it was primarily used to defend, no fighting guy ever thought of using it to hit someone if the situation allowed for itI want pseuds to leave.
>>97715801I'd rather DM a game for furries asking me the orc's pronouns, or a Critical Role theater kid, over these HEMA pseuds. The moment you add magic, monsters, and dungeons, their entire recreated knowledge of medieval combat goes out of the window. Even if you were playing nothing but medieval Europe simulator, most of their HEMA autism wouldn't matter because most combats were fought by poor fucks wielding a spear in a crowded battlefield. And even if their game was entirely about two dudes dueling with matched weapons, they'd still be fighting to the death, which also throws most of their recreated theoretical fencing crap out of the window too.
>>97715801Never has been.Not because of your image, but because it was always crossfiction that refused to cohere its elements.
>>97715883I'd rather play a game.Guessing which HEMA form daddy DM wants you to say or guessing which subversion of expectations daddy-in-a-dress DM is going to throw at you are effectively the same thing: boring nogames bullshit.
>>97715810Then this isn't a TTRPG anymore, is it? You're just doing improv with a referee.
>>97715801cool, but there's also magic so why has to be "realism" only for martials and not rule of cool?
>>97715801What does any of that image have to do with running a gay coffee shop? Have you even played modern DnD at all?
>twitter retard can't comprehend that game mechanics are abstractAn attack is not a single swing of a weapon.
>>97715845>each round you can either add your weapon's attack bonus to AC, or get an extra attackWould never happen though. D&d is allergic to fun choices.
>>97715810Youtube history was a mistake and we should put you in a vom tag concentration camp
>>97715975Magic is appropriate for war in D&D.
>>97715801>At this pointI was unsalvageable back when 3e released, bringing hordes of the mentally infirm low to no functioning aspies.
>>97715810Exquisite post
>you should just win if you're a good playerRidiculous and discriminatoryIn the name of fairness and equality a good DM leaves everything to dice, including whether there will even be a session tonightYou don't get to win just because you decided to and you don't even get to play just because you decided to
I think so. After all, we live in a quantum universe. You might not be a cock sucking faggot someday. It IS possible
>>97715801Sure. Games don't need to be a simulation. They need to be fun.
>>97716181>You make an exquisite post. A non-screams, and expels piss and shit
>>97716320Kek. This anon does it all for the nookie frfr
>>97715810>I kill the bad guy>congratulations, put the dice down, because he's deadThis is the most gameless post on /tg/ in months.
>>97715810This is your brain on "history" shortform content slop. Imagine the fat fingers typing this and the jiggling maw gleefully chortling at this bullshit.
>>97715801>he doesn't know d&d is just salvage, always has been What do you want to do with it?
>>97715810>His body expels piss and shit.So if I understand right, what you're saying is get rid of the dice and replace them with your creepy fetish?
>>97716824Don't you know? People lose bowel control after death. So that means that the moment the light leaves someone's eyes, twice their body weight in urine and feces explodes from their every orifice. It's REALISTIC, and if you try to argue against REALISM you are a pathetic woke brainlet scrub who can't handle real trve manly history for mature people like me. I bet you don't even play Trench Crusade!
>>97715810Then you aren't playing a game at that point, you're just larping.
>>97715810>oh yeah, well the bad guy dodges and then *wapish* karate chops you in the neck>well I block the karate chop and *whop* kick him in the balls>and then the bad guys jumps over the kick and *cruch* drops an elbow on your headThis dude is stuck in middle school describing theoretical fights with other school boys, but with bigger words.
>>97715801Last time DnD was salvageable was when they were working on 3.0And they deliberately and intentionally fucked shit up, to use "muh tradition" for the sake of marketing.
>>97715805>What's stoping you from sinking countless workhours to redesign fundamentally broken gameExcellent bait, mate. Because nobody ever fucking tried that prior and nobody ever saw it as futile eventually
>>97715810Nice pasta
>>97715810god tier bait 10/10
>>97715801That's too fiddly of historicity for the root wargame mechanics, with attempts at working parrying into "optional rules" either breaking something or being a horrible slog to already-slow resolution. And altering that root to make it fit reasonably would be a major risk of edition wars causing actual problems like the bite PF1e took out of 4e's market share, as it's necessarily adding complexity to a product-line that's been lowest-common-denominator for over a decade.>>97715805Nothing "stopping" it, but the network effects behind general discourse as dominates /tg/ and consequent volume of content to rip off without having to sort out the fiddly details are pretty big aspects of TTRPG value proposition.>>97715883The fundamental theories behind the dynamics still apply similar to how MMA overlaps with actual combat CQC, and could in principle be crunched down to TTRPG rules in leu of autistically going over exact "moves".>>97716053*cackles in 3.X*>>97716080But it is not the mainstay of war in most settings due to the trope-set, nor does its employment in such often get correlated to real-life military function, so the term "martial" in TTRPGs has come to refer to Fighter-types who do quasi-realistic combat stuff without magic.>>97716086That's significantly exaggerated due to the difference between Internet and meatspace word-of-mouth, and in quite the opposite direction from why 5e can't accommodate HEMA-autists.>>97717074The specific case is "just" some tedious calculations to fit the extra axis of defense as a "hard" thing instead of 5e's "Dodge action for Disadvantage to attackers" or the abstracted Fighting Defensively, not-worth-the-feat Two-Weapon Defense, and most relevantly the poorly-considered Defense Bonus UA variant in 3.5.
>>97715801>Is D&D even salvageable at this point?No.
>>97715810>Take all agency out of dice rolls Sure thing nogames the DM will take your pseud nonsense into play when you roll a 3 to hit.
>>97718793>that imageYou know what I don't understand? D&D is meant to be an escape from the real world and be an exploration of fantastical themes and settings. But this is something you can see in the real world: two gay guys being super gay with each other while baking. There's entire neighborhoods in any metropolitan city where you can see this shit.>wow, look how high fantasy we are! We're gay bakers!Like damn. The main issue I have with this open inclusion bs is that it's allowed unimaginative cunts to act like they're authorities of the game.No one is creating shit these days and the people who are are regurgitating shit that's already been thought of and put to paper so now the mediocre have secured the media and we're forced to have this be an image included in D&D material.
>>97718945There's a lot of narcissistic retards out there that now get into hobbies because they feel like they're validated in them, or so that's what I'm told by the suits looking for the mythical modern audience to show up.
>>97715801https://dndtools.net/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/two-weapon-defense--2996/
>>97715810How old are you ?
>>97718108>the trope-setThis isn't about tropes, this is about what is encountered in the system. Magic and magical items are the only equalizers to magic in D&D, and just about every mid to high level monster is magical in some way, shape, or form, and is either resistant or immune to multiple forms of physical stimuli.So not only does that mean magic is appropriate for war in D&D, but also means that what retarded, Reddit-speaking /lit/faggots call "martial" isn't appropriate for war in D&D.
>>97715801No matter
>>97718945Gen x manchildren have, for the foreseeable future, raped the popculture art ecosystem to death with their refusal to stop buying, playing, and giving money to 3-4 IPs they liked when they were children, so nothing gets made anymore outside the occational zoomer or autistc making somehting cool that manages to get a smidge of success.
>>97716269>in the name of fairness and equality a good DM leaves everything to dice, including whether there will even be a session tonightSo will he also roll on a table to determine encounters and what happens in the story?
>>97719152>This isn't about tropes, this is about what is encountered in the system.Warfare is not deeply engaged by WotC-D&D at all, and back when it was the system was very clear that the player characters are not at all what is expected by it. It is dominated, overwhelmingly, by the low levels where the guy swinging a sword around is a grave threat to even the wittiest of nominal peer wizards.All the stuff you are asserting render normal swording dude not appropriate for war is beyond even siege-elephants in the "expectations", no matter what a rootless party wiping their ass with the setting materials pulls off. Flipping the table is expected for them by that point, after all.
>>97715801If Wizards of the Coast dumps its executives and replaces them with competent people who actually care about the quality of their products. So probably not, no.
>>97715801If that x post was true, everyone would have just fought buckler and rapier, or rapier and cloak for added drip.
>>97719173It's not Gen X. I can understand Millennials and later say Zoomers but I don't think it's Gen X.For the record, I am a Millennial
>>97719399Was that not the case for a time?
>>97719422It very much was and extended to buckler and sidesword on the military side, while rapier and main gauche became popular on the civilian side. It gave the fighter a second blade plus complex hilt, that he could use to cut and stab as well as parry. Why would you carry another blade if you weren't planning on stabbing with it?
>>97715958>You're just doing improv with a referee.Yes, but not to the extent as that guy. The referee decides what sort of roll and modifiers, if any, your choices require. Shooting the man behind the tree will be more difficult than shooting the guy that isn't. A strong dude deciding to cut an old rope bridge with a magic axe during a chase scene doesn't require a roll to make it into a hazard, a weakling with an old knife could need to roll damage to see how well it cuts.
>>97719412It's really just corporatism, and how most customer bases tolerate way too much shit from the corporations that rape the things any given fandom loves.Just look at Star Trek or Star Wars. Those died a slow, horrifying death over a decade and a half.
>>97719340TEMPLE OF THE FRAAAAAAAAAAAAWG!
>>97715810This troll post will get a lot of people
>>97719399>drip
>>97717074>thinks 5 minutes of homebrewing would take hours>doesn't find the idea of actually spending hours doing ACTUAL homebrewing funI can't imagine just admitting to being this pathetic. It's like complaining about older games having too much math. They're shit and broken. Not hard to fix though if you have an IQ over room temperature.There's no games out there that don't need to be homebrewed a bit or a whole lot before they're usable.
>>97718793what if he decides to braid his beard different later, do they cut off the tattoo as to not deadbeard him?
>>97719953It's just so much easier to blame Gen x for everything, one of the smallest generations that's ever been, with little to no power over anything relevant
>>97717074Why do you think it's futile?
>>97716080why did you reply with a non sequitur?
>>97719152martial means no spell slots, dumbfuck.
>>97719228Yes, of course. Have you never played a game? Why would you need to ask this?
>>97720002are you new here?
>>97720012There are, of course. Making good rules is quite easy.
>>97719228TSR editions even included the tables instead of making you make them yourself.
>>97715801There's no reason to use a shortsword/dagger/gauche over a buckler if you don't even plan to use it as a weapon as well or it's for the same of performance. Ergo, while the off-hand weapon was commonly used for a similar purpose as a shield, it did absolutely have its place for attacking depending on the situation.
>>97720012Homebrewing is fun. Homebrewing to fix someone else being a massive fucking retard is not.
>>97715810Why are there several people replying seriously to this joke post? Am I being double-baited or something?
>>97718945Its the same issue as having any culture war issue in the setting. Its not there to make sense or add anything just to push the agenda.>inb4 dragons good but gay badIts not a matter of gay bad, but gay being done as if they are not people in a fantasy world but some hipsters living in current day NYC. Why is the culture and view of them the exact same? Why do they have the same language and terminology which only exists due to the very specific circumstances which have arose from things that only exists in our world and only developed relatively recently. Its the same shit as the combat wheelchair. And its like this for the whole spectrum of gay shit.
>>97715810Shadiversity-coded post
>>97723366Shadiversity is an authentic medieval historian who knows his shit though?
>>97723025are you new here?
>>97723419L O L
>>97720605Responding with what's martial isn't nonsequitur to martials.
>>97721521Martial is of or appropriate for war, you illiterate.
>>97722800This tells me you don't homebrew because as shitty as DnD is, everything everyone has made is a massive retarded fuck up in its own unique way. Nothing works how you need it or want it even if it's how someone else wanted it to work So that's 70% of what homebrewing is "this does not fucking work (either for my game or in general) and needs to be different, so I will make it different". And that's when homebrew is precise surgery. The other 30% is when it's frankenstein hack jobs that works only as far as you need it to, like massive pieces of different games grafted together and when your game is over you can do exactly like frankenstein did and abandon your creation in the french countryside. No one needs to know what you did, your players only see the illusion of a finished creation under heavy makeup. And in the screaming unholy context of that being normal in this hobby, when some pissant nogame retard complains about some minute aspect of fucking DnD, it sounds like someone complaining about pickles on a mcdonalds cheeseburger. The answer is "take them off" or "ask for no pickles" or even "why the fuck are you even eating at mcdonalds, go get real food." but none of that matters because if they had any sense for "real food" you wouldn't need to tell them any of that.
>>97724137No spell slots, illiterate.
>>97725629Taking pickles off of a burger doesn't fix it because the juice seeps into the burger and shits up the flavor and the retarded employees at McDs will fuck up your order more often than not so it doesn't even matter if you ask for no pickles.
>>97723419Since when?
>>97715801Go play Honor+Intrigue or accept DnD is Adventurer-Coded.
>>97727110For claiming to be a conservative you sure sound like a fucking faggot.
>>97727382>instead of being leftist pro-equality, they're actually just Minority-supremacist nazis, that think they're on some holy mission to purge the unclean savage just like the germans did, just with different definitions of who's whohuh it finally all clicks
>>97725629Behold Spellsinger 8/10/01Silvered longsword, +3/+3 Int: 12 Semi-empathetic, chaotic good, reads/understands high elf, only a chaotic good elf wizard/fighter can employ the dual existence of the swordUpon bonding with Spellsinger, a month-long process, the elf loses a level in their wizard class. This level loss can only be gained back through adventuring and not the restoration spell. The owner can then cause the Spellsinger to undergo a startling transformation. Upon uttering the command word the sword blazes into flames of an emerald hue (these flames cannot set anything on fire) revealing(1)
>>97727622(2)( )bas-reliefs along the blade's length. The bas-relief constantly changes, although they stay Sylvan in nature. The owner can then whisper a name of a spell, one that they have memorized and have in one of their own spellbooks into the pommel of the sword and the sword will "house" that spell until commanded to release it. The owner does not lose the spell whispered. When commanded to release the spell, the sword will discharge it while the owner is twirling Spellsinger. The twirling plus an effect of the sword causes the spell to manifest musically, hence the name of this High Magic blade. The stored spell cannot be higher than fourth level and must be a wizard spell. The light/flames effect can be turned off at-will but will always activate when the sword "sings" i.e. discharges it's housed spell. Ego:7 Description: Made of fine steel, this long sword is a masterpiece of co-craftsmanship between the dwarves of Lairn Mountains and the elves of Lairnstead Hollow. The straight (at their insistence) Dwarven lines of the blade and hilt belies the grace this weapon achieves when wielded. A swan and her wings cup the wielder's hand in a mithril embrace, with a diamond in the center of the guard, above the swan. The hilt has eel skin wrappings to absorb sweat. The pommel has been shaped into an into an acorn and was blessed by Saleia, Legendary High priestess of Corellon LarethianSide effects from useAfter: 11 years-Heal 1/day, ego=8 25 years-owner gains 29% magic resistance, ego=1050 years-invisible to undead, 10' radius, ego= 13After 50 years of use, the owner of Spellsinger acquires a strange taste for roaming the seas and seeking out exotic magics heard of, even if the dweomers are in faraway lands (Intense Wanderlust)"Once a common blade amongst Grey-elven royalty, there is only one Spellsinger now known to exist. Known to be wielded by Danees Dayguardian in his last battle against the evil hordes of Smoke Mountain" ~Tren the Chronicler
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>>97727704That's not a lot of text, you just have a third grade reading level.Smfh.
>>97727750I just hate blowhards who get on here and act like their shit don't stink. You ain't special in any way that I can tell. I stopped reading your basic bitch bullshit at the word nazi. I knew right then and there I would get nothing useful out of your post. Not because I'm prescient but because you're a punk ass bitch with delusions of grandeur and that's just facts. Your cognitive dissonance doesn't change the truth because the truth is all there is and it's always been that way since the first nanoseconds of the universe, champ. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Or up your ass. Idc
>>97715801No, the hobby is unsalvagable as a whole, now fuck off and go ruin something else.
>>97715801>holding a weapon in the off-hand allows for another attack>No.Yes.Dual wielding swords doesnt work specifically because of the weight distribution to cutting surface ratio of a sword. Axe in each hand or a short-blade in each hand functions as intended just fine.
>>97715801Yes, like a slice of cheese molding at one corner. Just cut out the infection and replace with something that works. I'd even so much as say that 5.5e is fine enough in general with only a few changes.>>97715810>Improv group with no audienceHave fun.
>>97715801A combat round in dnd is 6 seconds and its meant to be simple enough to play out a round of combat in a couple minutes. Dnds biggest flaw is that late game.play suffers from AC and HP bloat
>>97730336>Varies with edition thoughIm talking about 5e as its the latest. But dnd never had complex melee centric combat. I don't really think its a problem. Although j always enjoyed opposed tests for melee
>>97715810this post made me expel piss and shit
>>97723419Man was BTFO'd by the entire HEMA community and has been seething ever since.
>>97718793Wait, that's actually kind of a charming dwarfy idea though. Why are we upset about this? Is it just because "fags bad", or is there something you genuinely find objectionable?
>>97715801>grab a pistol in left hand>bullets stop coming out
>>97730125It's still a stabby implement. If the opportunity appeared that you could stab someone with your off hand dagger you would take it. I hate the HEMA fags who think that all combat was purely the same as depicted in manuals.
>>97715801These people are fucking stupid. The mechanics are supposed to be representative of what you attempt to so inbetween jockeying in combat.
>>97723067This just comes off as you being mega butthurt over nothing.
>>97730402Yes, the one on the left is wearing open-toed sandals. Proper dwarven PPE is steel-toed boots with slip-resistant soles.
>>97730402Mixture of fags bad and tattoos+piercings gives hipster coffeeshop vibes.
>>97726816>complains about pickles instead of tomatoesYou're a retard and are thus not worth listening to.
>>97727110>>97727382>>97727626This is all one attention whore LARPing with himself.>inb4 he pretends VPNs aren't real
>>97730461What do you have against tomatoes, anon?
>>97730336>That's supposed to be a lefty exclusive thing now?Yes. Stupid. It has been for the past 60 or so years. Were you asleep? Hell, the new posterboy for conservatism just started a brand new fun war in the Middle East.
>>97730477They absolutely don't belong on burgers. Their texture and flavor obliterate the flavor of the meat as well as half the other savory components. Only the onions can power through the wrath of the vile raw tomato.
>>97715801The claim in image related isn’t completely wrong, it’s just overstated. The dagger IS useful for managing the opponent's blade and creating dominance in the bind. But it doesn't exclude the idea of opportunistic stabbing or hybrid use mid-exchange. Ironically enough, I think the extra attack you get out of TWF is actually a pretty good representation of that though the defensive value never gets talked about.
>>97730481Yeah the patron saint of leftism Obongo definitely didn't do any military adventurism involving drone strikes or anything.
>>97715801Too easy.
>>97726816They ask for it with no pickle. You dumb fuck. that was literally pointed out there. You are complaining about a thing you have power to remove.
>>97715801>salvageableliterally the best RPG
>>97715810>Good DMs have you describe your method. If you use the right method, you succeed.this, but if they describe a worse method they roll
>>97730754You're Two-Fisted looks a bit different.
>>97730364When did he get BTFO?
>>97730844>Ask for burger with no pickles>It has pickles anyways because the employees are fuckups>It ruins the burger so removing them still leaves me with a ruined burgerNo, I'm not.
>>97731046>A pickle touched my burger for the few minutes it took from being assembled to when it was put into my hand, so it is ruined.This used to be a country of men.
>>97730477He prefers tomahtos
>>97730914Maybe pre-and-post SWADE?
>>97731115Yes. It makes the burger taste like shit.
>>97730437If it’s nothing why do you insist on putting it into everything and get mad when people discuss it? I am not even saying you can’t have gays just make them make sense.
>>97731213You'll take your burger how I give it to you, slut. Now get on your knees and put it in your mouth.
>>97718793>>97730402I want you to pretend for a second you had no idea what DnD is, or fantasy dwarves or anything like that, basically missing all context--and then look at the image again tell me what you see. Go ahead.
>>97723419Go home Shadiversity you are drunk.
>>97727110>>97727329All that to tell everyone you are far too stupid to play tabletop games or do much else other than drool all over yourself.
>>97731046>removing it isn't good enough>asking for a new one is too hardit's almost like the problem is you and not the burger. Amazing how apt this metaphor is here. The problem isn't that shit in the world is awful, but you're unwilling to do anything about it.
>>97723419Fuckin' LOL. That shit got a belly laugh from me.
>>97731512THEM messing up MY order is not my problem, liberal. Apologize to me.
>>97715801It's a shit system and roleplaying is for losers anyway, don't play this shit you retards
>>97731209What's the difference?
>>97730405>Making sense on a taiwanese image board dedicated to harvesting turtle eggs>No one responds >TfwTfw
>>97731512>Ask for a new one>They fuck it up in the same wayThis has actually happened and I got a free burger from the manager after I bitched that I claimed the next day. They fucked that one up too.
>>97730477He's Dethanor
>>97730504This man makes sense. Praise him
>>97730885No. No, no, no. I love d&d, been playing since '85 but not the best one out there. It's just the most accessible for ppl and the most popular by far. But it's not the best
>>97731468Two coolbros just hanging out in the kitchen making confections? (sweet, sugar-based foods, including candy, chocolates, candied fruits, and sometimes ice cream or pastries, created by mixing ingredients through cooking or preparation)Am I close?
>>97731599I'm sorry.
>>97731702You're welcome.
>>97731667Denethor liked tomatoes, though.
>>97715810The fact so many people are taking this post seriously shows how far this place has fallen..
>>97731709? I didn't say thank you, I said I'm sorry.
>>97731713He was straight up molesting those tomatoes. He was angry at them. Lol
>>97731721Yeah, we could complain about it or we could just ignore tf out of it and discuss anything better. I like halfing mating habits. You? Yay or nay?
>>97731736No, they're horrible and have disturbing implications.
>>97730504Combat is an abstraction. And that abstraction lets you narrate actions in ways that are actually more realistic than rigid interpretations or rules. An attack roll from both weapons could represent dozens of things depending on how you interpret the rolls and their results. Blade locking, opportunistic stabbing, or a decisive two weapon strike from both hands could all easily happen. 6 seconds is a lot of time.
>>97731871I don't give a fuck how something's narrated, I give a fuck if it has an actual effect.
>>97731620Yeah, we can tell you are nogames.
>>97731768Lol wow. Wow. That's just unhinged. Is that PF? Thanks for sharing
>>97731871You. I would play games at your table
>>97731962Can we stop with the incessant nogames accusations? That shit is played out
>>97732005You could try not being a nogames.
>>97731998Bastards and Bloodlines for 3rd/3.5 Edition. Though I think the company made a version for Pathfinder as well.
>>97731660JUST like WotC!
>>97732005How can it be played out if you're not even playing in?
>>97732051You should try crying about it
>>97732216I bet your a frogposter, aren't you
>>97732507Nope as unlike you and your smells I not a nogame.
>>97732563Lol crybaby. My games literally run circles around you>>97727622Is me. Let's see what you got? Oh right. Words words words, mealy mouth ho
>>97727871Lmao.>You ain't specialNever claimed to be.I said I preferred to be called a "Nazi" to a "Conservative" since you probably consider them synonyms anyway.Dirty stupid privileged marxist trash.
>>97732742I'm not privileged. And yeah I saw your contention. I did go back and read your comment. I wanted to see if I was missing anything. You big mad. I'm not gonna fault you for that. But ok I'm a dirty stupid Marxist. You caught me. Congratulations, ig. My nefarious plan is ruined all thanks to your detective work. Whatsoever shall I do? What do you think I should do? Neck myself? Drink bleach? I'm just curious here.
>>97732904>I'm not privilegedExactly what someone who needs to check their privilege would say tbqh
>>97715801If they were smart and willing to purge the woke DEI hires. Yeah, I could see them be able to salvage D&D. Though that's only cause they don't really have someone as big as them at the moment. The last time they had someone nipping at their heels was Pathfinder during 4e. However that was just 3.5 with a enough changes to be it's own thing. Something 5e took care of. As soon as someone makes a better 5e or just a better system. They're fucked
>>97732927When Hasbro wanted a tabletop roleplaying game for GI Joe and Transformers they hired an external company instead of having WotC do it. They must not have a lot of confidence. I'm curious what they are doing with 6e. Logically they would build up something without DEI hires internally. In the external-facing positions they have continued doing DEI stuff, but we have no idea what their actual design team will be- likely it isn't even close to complete yet.A few months ago I assumed they would hire a Chinese company or something- some group across the ocean, who doesn't have to hire a bunch of people for their politics and for not being white. But recent moves have made it more likely that they will be doing stuff here in America.
>>97732953Yeah, heard they will be dropping it next year. At this point, I don't care. I have too many other better systems to care about a company who straight up told the people who put them on the map they're can't wait to replace them then go surprised pikachu face when their modern audience shows up and it was just 3 drag queens. Fuck them.
>>97732908You should try crying about it
>>97732510Did it sound that smug?
>>97732953>A few months ago I assumed they would hire a Chinese company or somethingYeah licensing it to Chinese like with that pony card game sounds like what you'd expect. Didn't Blackrock supposedly tone down on funding that DEI bullshit anyway though?
>>97733271Lol and random
>>97732665Your "games" is probably you running around in circles with your pants on your head.
>>97734504Didn't be jealous. I got several long campaigns finished, all pretty successful with my players. You incessantly crying on 4chan ain't gonna change that, champ
>>97734540I am sure your long campaigns of you being in a room by yourself acting like a retard was fun for you.
>>97734605Show your work then. Prove me wrong. I did which proved you wrong. Seething is all you got.
>>97734741The only thing you proved was you being a dumb faggot.
>>97734818>Anon has faggots on his mindPretty telling
>>97734861About you, newfag.
>>97734874>Anon insists on bringing faggots up again with no provocation The expert on faggots is here. I bet you know all about it, huh
>>97734901>The expert on faggots is hereYes, you are here.
>>97734949Turn on your monitor
>>97734953No u.
>>97731599I mean. It is a problem for you. So in that sense it is your problem. But I guess just starve instead?
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>>97731694Except for the ''coolbros" part (we call them gays), basically. The kicker of course being that you apparently don't see a problem with that being used as promotional material for something called Dungeons & Dragons.
>>97715810For combat? Fuck no.For dungeon related activities, things your character your should be able to do based on your skills? Yes.>Player: I'm going to take my 10 foot pole and start tapping about the floor.>DM: A turn goes by. As you're using your tapping along the stoneworked floor with with your pole, you find an area on the floor where the stone bricks sound suspiciously different. You find a particular brick that doesn't seem to be set in place. Do you want to do anything with it.>Player: I'll call out to the others, "Hey, I've got something here!" as I reach out and try to pull the loose stone from the ground.>Other player: I'll walk over to join him>DM: You reach other and lift up the stone, exposing the pull ring for a trap door underneath.
>>97715801you should try this>>97715806>>97715805fair
>>97720420it's strange how milennials have created nothing in games, computing,. art, literature, cinema, theatre, poetry, music like a great gaping void of nothing with the echo of a million eclebs making sqeaking and farting noises mixed with sarcastic crap and empty vitriol like>>97715817
>>97739303My game is divorced from all that. That's the beauty of it, actually. None of it exists without you allowing it. No gay lizardmen? Fine. Awesome, even. It sucks that it permeates every single official product but the wotc police ain't breaking down your door about it. Yet. I hate how in your face it is at all times but nothing can be done about it except voting on where your dollars get spent. Now THAT, they care very, very much about. They are coasting on all this woke shit-barely and they know it. It might take 20 years but it'll eventually turn around or I'm a beardless gnome
>>97739556Yeah, I agree. Honestly, how millennials have been handled in our culture is frankly pathetic. I remember getting blamed for everything too (Gen x) and it still happens because "I should know better." Yeah, I fucking did and have been screening about it since the 90s but we were disenfranchised TOO, so think about that before anyone starts with the pointing fingers bullshit frfr no cap straight bussin
>>97715801It's a roleplaying game, not a combat simulation.
>>97715801Was it ever?
>>97731031It's been that way for years, he's the Lindybeige of HEMA, parrots some points of others with authority but when put under a microscope most of his original motte ideas are absolute garbage.
>>97741088That is definitely contentious.The safest thing to call it would be "a fantasy adventure game".
>>97742266Nah, that's Quest For Glory.
GURPSchads stay winning
>>97743696Great concept, horrible execution. I once made a gurps character and by the time I was done, my kids were putting me in a nursing home. Actually, it's STILL not fully done.
>>97743723Skill issue.Seriously though, GURPS' complexity is front-loaded. Making a character can be complicated and time consuming, but only if the GM wants it to be. A completely new player can use templates to get a solid, playable character in minutes. But it's on the GM to introduce new players to the game in a way that eases them into it. Once you get some familiarity with the system, then you can engage with its complexities to make the exact, precise character you want.
>>97715805ignoring the rules is something you can do with any game because the rules of a game are not magically binding -- i think if you find yourself having to encourage people to do it, or to hold the ability to do so up as a response to criticism or a selling point, then i think the rules are bad. rules should make the game better when you follow them and each one that doesn't is a failure
>>97744772Yeah I didn't have a GM. Loved the idea but I was like 12. I had never even played a ttrpg
>>97715810kek
>>97719412Nah, it’s definitely gen-x. They’re the ones who think Ghostbusters is some epic story about catching ghosts which is why the newer movies are sentimental movies milking cartoon nostalgia instead of comedies about starting small businesses. The only people I know who unironically still watches new Star Wars slop and Disney shit are my gen-x parents and other relatives from the same generation. Zoomers aren’t watching nu-Star Wars or feeling nostalgic about the fucking Ghostbusters cartoon and millennials obsess over shit like Pokémon, One-Piece and Yugioh.
>>97744960Like you would know. Everything you said is anecdotal. Everything. Stop posting forever. You're not wanted here or needed. Go back to plebbit with your kind. 4chan isn't your fucking safe space. Never has been
>>97744801That's funny, but fair. If you want to give it a shot, come to /GURPSgen/. It's an active thread with good anons. GURPS certainly *can* be complicated but it's the build-a-bear ttrpg, it can also be incredibly simple if you want it to be. I tried GURPS a few years ago after getting sick of 5e and I haven't looked back. It's been great.
>>97715801Coming to grips with what? The fact that he chose to play a lame martial instead of a cool blaster caster?
>>97745063I would like it for research purposes ngl. I'm a systems guy. But I could never get my group to play it
>>97715801The mongoloid is wrong, but not for the reasons he'd think. His point is valid, insofar that that is the base use of off-hand weaponry.But within the greater scope of D&D, two-weapon attacks is something you specialize in, and it takes effort. This is why such things are represented with feats and the like. That's what gets you the extra attacks with the off-hand.He thinks this is "one of the D&D errors" because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. D&D is dogshit for completely unrelated reasons, but I refuse to take his side - the wrong side - just because both sides are shit.
>>97730402Fags bad, but also california coffeeshop faggotry and breach of all reasonable verisimilitude. It's a fucking beard, you insufferable mongoloid. It's going to change over time.>>97731468>tell me what you seeFaggotry.>>97739803>It sucks that it permeates every single official product but the wotc police ain't breaking down your door about it. No-one saying that anyone is breaking down your door about it; everyone is saying that it sucks that it permeates every single official product and is thus unsustainably tiresome and grating. If this would just be one weird art piece in a single book, that'd be one thing, but it's half the fucking pieces in any given book at any given time, and I'm not going to support it and I am going to speak out about how fucking garbage it is at any given chance, because it is.
>>97745816Skill issue. That shit doesn't bother me cause I'm never going to use it anyway. You're bitching at a brick wall. I got better uses of my time
>>97716057>vom tag concentration campIs that like kiss chase prison?
>>97746461One day your group will split for whatever reasons, and you'll need to find players who will want to play your type of D&D. Now, you cut your table off from the community at large because it became shitty and faggy. But when it comes time to get a new player, guess what? All you're going to find are shitty fags, because that's what the games brings in now. Claiming that the enshitification of your hobby doesn't matter because it doesn't affect you personally is shortsighted at best and retarded at worst. It's pure cope.
>>97715801Nothing about D&D is a problem, it's the player base you have a problem with.
>>97747772Whatever you say
D&D is salvageable; the fan base and this site aren't.
>>97749036I disagree and with attitudes like yours, nothing will ever get done about it. I don't blame you from expressing your opinion tho. When you do that, you are showing others that there IS problem and I have no qualms about that
>>97749036>this siteThe days after the hack were glorious, it was like the clock wound back 10 years before jannies started enforcing adgendas.
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>>97715810No, this isn't a podcast and the vast majority of ttrpgs are not good at thinking on their feet or improvisation. Most players want to roll dice, both for fun and because they literally can't think narratively. They don't want to sit there listening to your story.
>>97715801>The off hand weapon is usedOpinion discarded.The off hand weapon is used in whatever way the wielder deems to use it.This fag took one class of Hema and started posting treatises like they're combat gospel, and not just dubiously reliable books written by self-proclaimed 'fencing masters'.>t.autist who can use off handed weapons for attack, defense, and controlling.
>>97750662This site has convinced me that the good old days are gone, and I will never enjoy my hobby again. This generation of players have been infected by this site's culture and will destroy anything others do, just to spite them.
>>97753208Unironically.>>97746461>j-just close your eyes a-and never interact with anything!Kill yourself.
>>97755153Oh I interact plenty: with my players. You should do the same instead of pissing and moaning here. No one wants to hear your incessant crying
>>97754901Man, I understand. Just seperate yourself from this never ending toxic bullshit. It's one thing you witness it, another to interact with it I still find plenty of smart anons that are passionate about their hobby here. It's just less and less over time but they do exist. Some even regrets from trolling all the fucking time. Crazy, ik but it does happen
>>9771581010 10 bait
>>97730402>>97731468NTA, but basically this reply. The uncropped piece shows other aspects of dwarf civilian life which have a little more relevance, but a lot of focus is on "here's a gay baker couple". That, and the civilian life vibe in general, has little do with anything I understand to be the actual content of D&D play. Imagine a piece showing these same two dwarf bros, still prominently showing the tattoos suggesting that they're a couple or at least extremely devoted hetero lifemates, but now they're actually adventuring and one is tending to the other who is badly injured.
>>97732953It's more to due with the company's retarded internal politics. The in charge of the individual product lines at Hasbro view each other as competition, so they will never willingly do anything that involves having to share credit with a different line. Thus, they pushed to farm it out because as an externally licensed product, they get to count all of the revenue that Hasbro brings in as theirs whereas if the had WotC do it they would have to share the credit with them, even though the company as a whole would make more money doing it that way. Supposedly the original 80s She-Ra got canceled for similar reasons, because the woman who ran Barbie at the time got butthurt that girls would rather play with action figures than her dressup dolls and used her clout with Mattel's higher ups to get them to axe the line.
>>97762554Man, Hasbro is such a dumpster fire.
>>97715810>already at 25 (you)sI'm in awe, this is splendid
>>97762652To be fair anon's example is from Mattel, so I guess big companies in general are dumpster fires. Back in the TSR days, the AD&D crew had to put up with lorraine williams' bullshit while trying to publish some kino.
